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Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
biker
()
Date: December 08, 2012 06:22PM
God--I just want to watch football on Sunday. Will we now suffer through another Bob Costas rant on restoring prohibition and banning SUVs and all automobiles after Josh Brent, prior DUI, killed a teammate whilst drunk again?
http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/08/josh-brent-arrested-dallas-cowboys-manslaughter/
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Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
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Date: December 08, 2012 07:06PM
"If [Josh Brent] didn't possess a [vehicle] Jerry Brown would be alive today."
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Tough One
()
Date: December 08, 2012 07:28PM
Knowing Bob Costas, and how his liberal puke for a mind works, he will probably say that this is "just a misunderstanding."
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Mrs. Costas
()
Date: December 08, 2012 07:30PM
Bob needs to focus his time on finding a better wigmaker and elevator shoe designer and less time blathering on about a subject of which his has very little knowledge.
Yes, Bob wears a wig.
Yes, Bob wears a wig.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Tough One
()
Date: December 08, 2012 07:31PM
Mrs. Costas Wrote:
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> Bob needs to focus his time on finding a better
> wigmaker and elevator shoe designer and less time
> blathering on about a subject of which his has
> very little knowledge.
>
> Yes, Bob wears a wig.
He also looks like he just came from an embalmer.
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> Bob needs to focus his time on finding a better
> wigmaker and elevator shoe designer and less time
> blathering on about a subject of which his has
> very little knowledge.
>
> Yes, Bob wears a wig.
He also looks like he just came from an embalmer.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
WaplesMill
()
Date: December 08, 2012 07:39PM
Mrs. Costas Wrote:
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> Bob needs to focus his time on finding a better
> wigmaker and elevator shoe designer and less time
> blathering on about a subject of which his has
> very little knowledge.
You got that right. He's a lightweight for sure. I'd like to see him debate Wayne LaPierre but I doubt he has the kahunas.
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> Bob needs to focus his time on finding a better
> wigmaker and elevator shoe designer and less time
> blathering on about a subject of which his has
> very little knowledge.
You got that right. He's a lightweight for sure. I'd like to see him debate Wayne LaPierre but I doubt he has the kahunas.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Idiots
()
Date: December 08, 2012 07:49PM
Alcohol played the role of the gun in this murder, not the car. And yes, you always hear people like Costas ragging on drunk drivers. It's nothing new. Guns kill and so does alcohol.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Rules Guy
()
Date: December 08, 2012 08:01PM
Wrong forum, OP. This is not something of interest to residents of Northern Virginia.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Master
()
Date: December 09, 2012 06:08AM
Hummm.. So now let's ban guns and alcohol.. what next football
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Yup
()
Date: December 09, 2012 09:31AM
Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been banned for years. Government stepped in and did something up about it. Wasnt the end of the world. Still waiting for the government to step up and address the handgun and assault rifle issues that plague this country.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
just an idea
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Date: December 09, 2012 09:34AM
Do you think Brent got his booze at Costco in DC?
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
little bobby costas
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Date: December 09, 2012 04:55PM
Yup Wrote:
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> Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been banned
> for years. Government stepped in and did something
> up about it. Wasnt the end of the world. Still
> waiting for the government to step up and address
> the handgun and assault rifle issues that plague
> this country.
Shooting an innocent person with a firearm has also been banned for years...!!! Even longer than drinking alcohol and riding a horse down the main street of Dodge city....
Geeze.
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> Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been banned
> for years. Government stepped in and did something
> up about it. Wasnt the end of the world. Still
> waiting for the government to step up and address
> the handgun and assault rifle issues that plague
> this country.
Shooting an innocent person with a firearm has also been banned for years...!!! Even longer than drinking alcohol and riding a horse down the main street of Dodge city....
Geeze.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
bans dont do anything
()
Date: December 09, 2012 05:11PM
little bobby costas Wrote:
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> Yup Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been
> banned
> > for years. Government stepped in and did
> something
> > up about it. Wasnt the end of the world. Still
> > waiting for the government to step up and
> address
> > the handgun and assault rifle issues that
> plague
> > this country.
>
> Shooting an innocent person with a firearm has
> also been banned for years...!!! Even longer than
> drinking alcohol and riding a horse down the main
> street of Dodge city....
>
> Geeze.
Its almost like criminals dont care about the law and ignore them. Good thing banning guns would stop murders................
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> Yup Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been
> banned
> > for years. Government stepped in and did
> something
> > up about it. Wasnt the end of the world. Still
> > waiting for the government to step up and
> address
> > the handgun and assault rifle issues that
> plague
> > this country.
>
> Shooting an innocent person with a firearm has
> also been banned for years...!!! Even longer than
> drinking alcohol and riding a horse down the main
> street of Dodge city....
>
> Geeze.
Its almost like criminals dont care about the law and ignore them. Good thing banning guns would stop murders................
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
biker
()
Date: December 09, 2012 05:13PM
"Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been banned for years. Government stepped in and did something up about it"
Well those laws seemed to have worked rather well, see original post. After guns and those nastry assault weapons what should we ban next FREE speach?
Well those laws seemed to have worked rather well, see original post. After guns and those nastry assault weapons what should we ban next FREE speach?
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
little bobby costas
()
Date: December 09, 2012 06:03PM
biker Wrote:
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> "Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been banned
> for years. Government stepped in and did something
> up about it"
>
> Well those laws seemed to have worked rather well,
> see original post. After guns and those nastry
> assault weapons what should we ban next FREE
> speach?
If they don't agree with it, yes indeed, at least in the opinion of the little bed-wetting, sky-is-falling fools like bob costas
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> "Drinking alcohol and then driving HAS been banned
> for years. Government stepped in and did something
> up about it"
>
> Well those laws seemed to have worked rather well,
> see original post. After guns and those nastry
> assault weapons what should we ban next FREE
> speach?
If they don't agree with it, yes indeed, at least in the opinion of the little bed-wetting, sky-is-falling fools like bob costas
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
double standard
()
Date: December 09, 2012 06:12PM
little bobby costas Wrote:
> If they don't agree with it, yes indeed, at least
> in the opinion of the little bed-wetting,
> sky-is-falling fools like bob costas
Free speech only applies to their point of view, everyone knows that
> If they don't agree with it, yes indeed, at least
> in the opinion of the little bed-wetting,
> sky-is-falling fools like bob costas
Free speech only applies to their point of view, everyone knows that
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Woolie
()
Date: December 09, 2012 06:42PM
Yeah murder has always been illegal. Whether its by gun or because if DWI. That isn't the issue. The issue is that Americans are stupid and violent. Combine that with the fact that the constitution clearly states that firearms are for militias (today's national guard). What does all of that mean? It means handguns and assault rifles should be banned from the general public. Simple as that. That would cut down on murder rates in this county. Plain and simple.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
little bobby costas
()
Date: December 09, 2012 08:16PM
Woolie Wrote:
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> Yeah murder has always been illegal. Whether its
> by gun or because if DWI. That isn't the issue.
> The issue is that Americans are stupid and
> violent. Combine that with the fact that the
> constitution clearly states that firearms are for
> militias (today's national guard). What does all
> of that mean? It means handguns and assault rifles
> should be banned from the general public. Simple
> as that. That would cut down on murder rates in
> this county. Plain and simple.
might want to check with the constitution and the supreme court's recent interpretations of it.. while your trying on your little big boy pants online...
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> Yeah murder has always been illegal. Whether its
> by gun or because if DWI. That isn't the issue.
> The issue is that Americans are stupid and
> violent. Combine that with the fact that the
> constitution clearly states that firearms are for
> militias (today's national guard). What does all
> of that mean? It means handguns and assault rifles
> should be banned from the general public. Simple
> as that. That would cut down on murder rates in
> this county. Plain and simple.
might want to check with the constitution and the supreme court's recent interpretations of it.. while your trying on your little big boy pants online...
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Loon
()
Date: December 09, 2012 08:50PM
I love how the crazy right wing redneck dummy gun nuts bring up the Supreme Court interpretation of guns like the court makes no mistakes but they were all shitting themselves when the Supreme Court ruled that Obama Care was legal. Can't have it both ways. Bottom line - guns kill, and so do the cowards who use them.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Chairman Mao
()
Date: December 09, 2012 09:12PM
Guns are banned in Cuba, North Korea, and China. Note the government control of the people. Just like libs want for the USA
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Looney Lefties
()
Date: December 09, 2012 09:26PM
Loon Wrote:
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> I love how the crazy right wing redneck dummy gun
> nuts bring up the Supreme Court interpretation of
> guns like the court makes no mistakes but they
> were all shitting themselves when the Supreme
> Court ruled that Obama Care was legal. Can't have
> it both ways. Bottom line - guns kill, and so do
> the cowards who use them.
I love how the crazy 'radical' dummy lefties have no respect for cops or the military and have no trust at all in 'the man' as far as things like that go, yet they want them to be the only ones with guns. lol
The court's already dealt with gun ownership and what constitutes reasonable restrictions for the foreseeable future with the Heller decision. Settled law at this point. Sorry.
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> I love how the crazy right wing redneck dummy gun
> nuts bring up the Supreme Court interpretation of
> guns like the court makes no mistakes but they
> were all shitting themselves when the Supreme
> Court ruled that Obama Care was legal. Can't have
> it both ways. Bottom line - guns kill, and so do
> the cowards who use them.
I love how the crazy 'radical' dummy lefties have no respect for cops or the military and have no trust at all in 'the man' as far as things like that go, yet they want them to be the only ones with guns. lol
The court's already dealt with gun ownership and what constitutes reasonable restrictions for the foreseeable future with the Heller decision. Settled law at this point. Sorry.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Guy
()
Date: December 09, 2012 09:31PM
Guns are banned in England, Japan, Canada, Norway and other more currently successful countries than the US.
And the court already dealt with Obama Care. Settled law at this point. Sorry.
And the court already dealt with Obama Care. Settled law at this point. Sorry.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Lameness is You
()
Date: December 09, 2012 09:57PM
Guy Wrote:
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> Guns are banned in England, Japan, Canada, Norway
> and other more currently successful countries than
> the US.
>
> And the court already dealt with Obama Care.
> Settled law at this point. Sorry.
Obamacare has nothing to do with anything but, regardless, health care is not a constitutional right. Sorry.
Guns are not 'banned' in England, Japan, Canada, or Norway. But going by the same logic, there are many places where they actually are banned, yet both the murder and suicide rates are higher than in the US. Likewise, there are places with higher per capita gun ownership yet the gun-related murder and suicide rates are lower. Now to a normal thinking person, that might tend to imply that there's likely some other societal factors driving the rates, but to a dumb parrot like you I'd guess not. lol
UNODC murder rates most recent year (full table here)
Country Rate Count Region Subregion
Honduras 91.6 7,104 Americas Central America
El Salvador 69.2 4,308 Americas Central America
Côte d'Ivoire 56.9 10,801 Africa Western Africa
Jamaica 52.2 1,430 Americas Caribbean
Venezuela 45.1 13,080 Americas South America
Belize 41.4 129 Americas Central America
U.S. Virgin Islands 39.2 43 Americas Caribbean
Guatemala 38.5 5,681 Americas Central America
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2 20 Americas Caribbean
Zambia 38.0 4,710 Africa Eastern Africa
Uganda 36.3 11,373 Africa Eastern Africa
Malawi 36.0 5,039 Africa Eastern Africa
Lesotho 35.2 764 Africa Southern Africa
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2 472 Americas Caribbean
Colombia 33.4 15,459+ Americas South America
South Africa 31.8 15,940 Africa Southern Africa
Congo 30.8 1,180 Africa Middle Africa
Central African Republic 29.3 1,240 Africa Middle Africa
Bahamas 27.4 94 Americas Caribbean
Puerto Rico 26.2 983 Americas Caribbean
Saint Lucia 25.2 44 Americas Caribbean
Dominican Republic 25.0 2,513 Americas Caribbean
Tanzania 24.5 10,357 Africa Eastern Africa
Sudan 24.2 10,028++ Africa Northern Africa
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9 25 Americas Caribbean
Ethiopia 22.5 20,239 Africa Eastern Africa
Guinea 22.5 2,152 Africa Western Africa
Dominica 22.1 15 Americas Caribbean
Burundi 21.7 1,726 Africa Eastern Africa
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7 13,558 Africa Middle Africa
Panama 21.6 759 Americas Central America
Brazil 21.0 40,974 Americas South America
Equatorial Guinea 20.7 137 Africa Middle Africa
Guinea-Bissau 20.2 294 Africa Western Africa
Kenya 20.1 7,733 Africa Eastern Africa
Kyrgyzstan 20.1 1,072 Asia Central Asia
Cameroon 19.7 3,700 Africa Middle Africa
Montserrat 19.7 1 Americas Caribbean
Greenland 19.2 11 Europe Northern Europe
Angola 19.0 3,426 Africa Middle Africa
Guyana 18.6 140 Americas South America
Burkina Faso 18.0 2,876 Africa Western Africa
Eritrea 17.8 879 Africa Eastern Africa
Namibia 17.2 352 Africa Southern Africa
Rwanda 17.1 1,708 Africa Eastern Africa
Mexico 16.9 25,757+ Americas Central America
Chad 15.8 1,686 Africa Middle Africa
Ghana 15.7 3,646 Africa Western Africa
Ecuador 15.2 2,638 Americas South America
North Korea 15.2 3,658 Asia Eastern Asia
Benin 15.1 1,262 Africa Western Africa
Sierra Leone 14.9 837 Africa Western Africa
Mauritania 14.7 485 Africa Western Africa
Botswana 14.5 287 Africa Southern Africa
Zimbabwe 14.3 1,775 Africa Eastern Africa
Gabon 13.8 200 Africa Middle Africa
Nicaragua 13.6 785 Americas Central America
French Guiana 13.3 30 Americas South America
Papua New Guinea 13.0 854 Oceania Melanesia
Swaziland 12.9 141 Africa Southern Africa
Bermuda 12.3 8 Americas Northern America
Comoros 12.2 85 Africa Eastern Africa
Nigeria 12.2 18,422 Africa Western Africa
Cape Verde 11.6 56 Africa Western Africa
Grenada 11.5 12 Americas Caribbean
Paraguay 11.5 741 Americas South America
Barbados 11.3 31 Americas Caribbean
Togo 10.9 627 Africa Western Africa
Gambia 10.8 106 Africa Western Africa
Peru 10.3 2,969 Americas South America
Myanmar 10.2 4,800 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Russia 10.2 14,574 Europe Eastern Europe
Liberia 10.1 371 Africa Western Africa
Costa Rica 10.0 474 Americas Central America
Nauru 9.8 1 Oceania Micronesia
Bolivia 8.9 884 Americas South America
Mozambique 8.8 1,925 Africa Eastern Africa
Kazakhstan 8.8 1,418 Asia Central Asia
Senegal 8.7 1,027 Africa Western Africa
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7 3 Americas Caribbean
Mongolia 8.7 239 Asia Eastern Asia
British Virgin Islands 8.6 2 Americas Caribbean
Cayman Islands 8.4 5 Americas Caribbean
Seychelles 8.3 7 Africa Eastern Africa
Madagascar 8.1 1,588 Africa Eastern Africa
Indonesia 8.1 18,963 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Mali 8.0 1,157 Africa Western Africa
Pakistan 7.8 13,860+ Asia Southern Asia
Moldova 7.5 267 Europe Eastern Europe
Kiribati 7.3 7 Oceania Micronesia
Guadeloupe 7.0 32 Americas Caribbean
Haiti 6.9 689 Americas Caribbean
Timor-Leste 6.9 75 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Anguilla 6.8 1 Americas Caribbean
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8 6 Americas Caribbean
Lithuania 6.6 219 Europe Northern Europe
Uruguay 5.9 199 Americas South America
Philippines 5.4 4,947 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Ukraine 5.2 2,356 Europe Eastern Europe
Estonia 5.2 70 Europe Northern Europe
Cuba 5.0 563 Americas Caribbean
Belarus 4.9 473 Europe Eastern Europe
Thailand 4.8 3,307 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Suriname 4.6 24 Americas South America
Laos 4.6 279 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Georgia 4.3 187 Europe Eastern Europe
Martinique 4.2 17 Americas Caribbean
United States 4.2 12,996 Americas Northern America
Turkmenistan 4.2 203 Asia Central Asia
Yemen 4.2 990+ Asia Western Asia
Palestine 4.1 145+ Asia Western Asia
Albania 4.0 127 Europe Southern Europe
Niger 3.8 552 Africa Western Africa
Solomon Islands 3.7 19 Oceania Melanesia
Sri Lanka 3.6 745 Asia Southern Asia
Montenegro 3.5 22 Europe Southern Europe
Djibouti 3.4 29 Africa Eastern Africa
Argentina 3.4 1,360 Americas South America
Cambodia 3.4 448 Asia South-Eastern Asia
India 3.4 40,752+ Asia Southern Asia
Turkey 3.3 2,320 Asia Western Asia
Chile 3.2 541 Americas South America
Taiwan 3.2 743 Asia Eastern Asia
Uzbekistan 3.1 831 Asia Central Asia
Latvia 3.1 70 Europe Northern Europe
Iran 3.0 2,215 Asia Southern Asia
Libya 2.9 176+ Africa Northern Africa
Nepal 2.8 818 Asia Southern Asia
Liechtenstein 2.8 1 Europe Western Europe
Fiji 2.8 23 Oceania Melanesia
Bangladesh 2.7 3,988 Asia Southern Asia
South Korea 2.6 1,251 Asia Eastern Asia
Mauritius 2.5 33 Africa Eastern Africa
Luxembourg 2.5 12 Europe Western Europe
Afghanistan 2.4 712+ Asia Southern Asia
Malaysia 2.3 604 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Syria 2.3 463+ Asia Western Asia
Azerbaijan 2.2 206 Asia Western Asia
Kuwait 2.2 59 Asia Western Asia
Lebanon 2.2 95 Asia Western Asia
Finland 2.2 118 Europe Northern Europe
Tajikistan 2.1 143 Asia Central Asia
Israel 2.1 159+ Asia Western Asia
Iraq 2.0 608+ Asia Western Asia
Bulgaria 2.0 147 Europe Eastern Europe
Romania 2.0 421 Europe Eastern Europe
São Tomé and Príncipe 1.9 3 Africa Middle Africa
Macedonia 1.9 40 Europe Southern Europe
Jordan 1.8 100 Asia Western Asia
Cyprus 1.7 19 Asia Western Asia
Czech Republic 1.7 181 Europe Eastern Europe
Belgium 1.7 180 Europe Western Europe
Canada 1.6 554 Americas Northern America
Vietnam 1.6 1,346 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Maldives 1.6 5 Asia Southern Asia
Somalia 1.5 138+ Africa Eastern Africa
Algeria 1.5 516 Africa Northern Africa
Slovakia 1.5 84 Europe Eastern Europe
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.5 56 Europe Southern Europe
Greece 1.5 176 Europe Southern Europe
Morocco 1.4 447 Africa Northern Africa
Armenia 1.4 44 Asia Western Asia
Croatia 1.4 62 Europe Southern Europe
Hungary 1.3 133 Europe Eastern Europe
Andorra 1.3 1 Europe Southern Europe
Egypt 1.2 992 Africa Northern Africa
Ireland 1.2 54 Europe Northern Europe
United Kingdom 1.2 722 Europe Northern Europe
Portugal 1.2 124 Europe Southern Europe
Serbia 1.2 123 Europe Southern Europe
Tunisia 1.1 117 Africa Northern Africa
Poland 1.1 436 Europe Eastern Europe
France 1.1 682 Europe Western Europe
Netherlands 1.1 179 Europe Western Europe
Samoa 1.1 2 Oceania Polynesia
China 1.0 13,410 Asia Eastern Asia
Bhutan 1.0 7 Asia Southern Asia
Saudi Arabia 1.0 265+ Asia Western Asia
Sweden 1.0 91 Europe Northern Europe
Malta 1.0 4 Europe Southern Europe
Australia 1.0 229 Oceania Australasia
Tonga 1.0 1 Oceania Polynesia
Qatar 0.9 13 Asia Western Asia
Denmark 0.9 47 Europe Northern Europe
Italy 0.9 529 Europe Southern Europe
New Zealand 0.9 39 Oceania Australasia
Vanuatu 0.9 2 Oceania Melanesia
Federated States of Micronesia 0.9 1 Oceania Micronesia
United Arab Emirates 0.8 39 Asia Western Asia
Spain 0.8 390 Europe Southern Europe
Germany 0.8 690 Europe Western Europe
Macau 0.7 4 Asia Eastern Asia
Oman 0.7 18 Asia Western Asia
Slovenia 0.7 15 Europe Southern Europe
Switzerland 0.7 52 Europe Western Europe
Bahrain 0.6 6 Asia Western Asia
Norway 0.6 29 Europe Northern Europe
Austria 0.6 56 Europe Western Europe
Guam 0.6 1 Oceania Micronesia
Brunei 0.5 2 Asia South-Eastern Asia
French Polynesia 0.4 1 Oceania Polynesia
Japan 0.3 442 [8] Asia Eastern Asia
Singapore 0.3 16 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Iceland 0.3 1 Europe Northern Europe
Hong Kong 0.2 17 Asia Eastern Asia
Monaco 0.0 0 Europe Western Europe
Palau 0.0 0 Oceania Micronesia
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> Guns are banned in England, Japan, Canada, Norway
> and other more currently successful countries than
> the US.
>
> And the court already dealt with Obama Care.
> Settled law at this point. Sorry.
Obamacare has nothing to do with anything but, regardless, health care is not a constitutional right. Sorry.
Guns are not 'banned' in England, Japan, Canada, or Norway. But going by the same logic, there are many places where they actually are banned, yet both the murder and suicide rates are higher than in the US. Likewise, there are places with higher per capita gun ownership yet the gun-related murder and suicide rates are lower. Now to a normal thinking person, that might tend to imply that there's likely some other societal factors driving the rates, but to a dumb parrot like you I'd guess not. lol
UNODC murder rates most recent year (full table here)
Country Rate Count Region Subregion
Honduras 91.6 7,104 Americas Central America
El Salvador 69.2 4,308 Americas Central America
Côte d'Ivoire 56.9 10,801 Africa Western Africa
Jamaica 52.2 1,430 Americas Caribbean
Venezuela 45.1 13,080 Americas South America
Belize 41.4 129 Americas Central America
U.S. Virgin Islands 39.2 43 Americas Caribbean
Guatemala 38.5 5,681 Americas Central America
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2 20 Americas Caribbean
Zambia 38.0 4,710 Africa Eastern Africa
Uganda 36.3 11,373 Africa Eastern Africa
Malawi 36.0 5,039 Africa Eastern Africa
Lesotho 35.2 764 Africa Southern Africa
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2 472 Americas Caribbean
Colombia 33.4 15,459+ Americas South America
South Africa 31.8 15,940 Africa Southern Africa
Congo 30.8 1,180 Africa Middle Africa
Central African Republic 29.3 1,240 Africa Middle Africa
Bahamas 27.4 94 Americas Caribbean
Puerto Rico 26.2 983 Americas Caribbean
Saint Lucia 25.2 44 Americas Caribbean
Dominican Republic 25.0 2,513 Americas Caribbean
Tanzania 24.5 10,357 Africa Eastern Africa
Sudan 24.2 10,028++ Africa Northern Africa
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9 25 Americas Caribbean
Ethiopia 22.5 20,239 Africa Eastern Africa
Guinea 22.5 2,152 Africa Western Africa
Dominica 22.1 15 Americas Caribbean
Burundi 21.7 1,726 Africa Eastern Africa
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7 13,558 Africa Middle Africa
Panama 21.6 759 Americas Central America
Brazil 21.0 40,974 Americas South America
Equatorial Guinea 20.7 137 Africa Middle Africa
Guinea-Bissau 20.2 294 Africa Western Africa
Kenya 20.1 7,733 Africa Eastern Africa
Kyrgyzstan 20.1 1,072 Asia Central Asia
Cameroon 19.7 3,700 Africa Middle Africa
Montserrat 19.7 1 Americas Caribbean
Greenland 19.2 11 Europe Northern Europe
Angola 19.0 3,426 Africa Middle Africa
Guyana 18.6 140 Americas South America
Burkina Faso 18.0 2,876 Africa Western Africa
Eritrea 17.8 879 Africa Eastern Africa
Namibia 17.2 352 Africa Southern Africa
Rwanda 17.1 1,708 Africa Eastern Africa
Mexico 16.9 25,757+ Americas Central America
Chad 15.8 1,686 Africa Middle Africa
Ghana 15.7 3,646 Africa Western Africa
Ecuador 15.2 2,638 Americas South America
North Korea 15.2 3,658 Asia Eastern Asia
Benin 15.1 1,262 Africa Western Africa
Sierra Leone 14.9 837 Africa Western Africa
Mauritania 14.7 485 Africa Western Africa
Botswana 14.5 287 Africa Southern Africa
Zimbabwe 14.3 1,775 Africa Eastern Africa
Gabon 13.8 200 Africa Middle Africa
Nicaragua 13.6 785 Americas Central America
French Guiana 13.3 30 Americas South America
Papua New Guinea 13.0 854 Oceania Melanesia
Swaziland 12.9 141 Africa Southern Africa
Bermuda 12.3 8 Americas Northern America
Comoros 12.2 85 Africa Eastern Africa
Nigeria 12.2 18,422 Africa Western Africa
Cape Verde 11.6 56 Africa Western Africa
Grenada 11.5 12 Americas Caribbean
Paraguay 11.5 741 Americas South America
Barbados 11.3 31 Americas Caribbean
Togo 10.9 627 Africa Western Africa
Gambia 10.8 106 Africa Western Africa
Peru 10.3 2,969 Americas South America
Myanmar 10.2 4,800 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Russia 10.2 14,574 Europe Eastern Europe
Liberia 10.1 371 Africa Western Africa
Costa Rica 10.0 474 Americas Central America
Nauru 9.8 1 Oceania Micronesia
Bolivia 8.9 884 Americas South America
Mozambique 8.8 1,925 Africa Eastern Africa
Kazakhstan 8.8 1,418 Asia Central Asia
Senegal 8.7 1,027 Africa Western Africa
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7 3 Americas Caribbean
Mongolia 8.7 239 Asia Eastern Asia
British Virgin Islands 8.6 2 Americas Caribbean
Cayman Islands 8.4 5 Americas Caribbean
Seychelles 8.3 7 Africa Eastern Africa
Madagascar 8.1 1,588 Africa Eastern Africa
Indonesia 8.1 18,963 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Mali 8.0 1,157 Africa Western Africa
Pakistan 7.8 13,860+ Asia Southern Asia
Moldova 7.5 267 Europe Eastern Europe
Kiribati 7.3 7 Oceania Micronesia
Guadeloupe 7.0 32 Americas Caribbean
Haiti 6.9 689 Americas Caribbean
Timor-Leste 6.9 75 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Anguilla 6.8 1 Americas Caribbean
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8 6 Americas Caribbean
Lithuania 6.6 219 Europe Northern Europe
Uruguay 5.9 199 Americas South America
Philippines 5.4 4,947 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Ukraine 5.2 2,356 Europe Eastern Europe
Estonia 5.2 70 Europe Northern Europe
Cuba 5.0 563 Americas Caribbean
Belarus 4.9 473 Europe Eastern Europe
Thailand 4.8 3,307 Asia South-Eastern Asia
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Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Righty
()
Date: December 09, 2012 10:12PM
It's only a matter of time until the handguns and assault rifles are banned. The libs are winning the war. They are smarter than we are. Look, they already have gay marriage spreading to the states. Msrijuana is now becoming legal as is gambling. They are winning the war on Xmas. They have their commie in office. They got women more rights. Pro choice is still there. Obamacare won. Lets face it, they are winning. We are too dumb to compete with these narrow minded liberal jerks. Guns will be banned soon. I'm mad as heck.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
no, no it doesnt
()
Date: December 09, 2012 10:23PM
Woolie Wrote:
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Combine that with the fact that the
> constitution clearly states that firearms are for
> militias (today's national guard).
No, no it doesnt.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Notice the commas, the right of the people and militia are separated and being in a militia has no bearing on the right to bear arms just like every legal scholar and supreme court decision says.
Just for the sake of argument, all a militia is is a group of people with guns. So by your definition all you would have to do is go buy guns with a few friends or know people with guns to own them. Both your incorrect ready of the 2nd amendment and the real meaning of it result in people owning guns
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Combine that with the fact that the
> constitution clearly states that firearms are for
> militias (today's national guard).
No, no it doesnt.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Notice the commas, the right of the people and militia are separated and being in a militia has no bearing on the right to bear arms just like every legal scholar and supreme court decision says.
Just for the sake of argument, all a militia is is a group of people with guns. So by your definition all you would have to do is go buy guns with a few friends or know people with guns to own them. Both your incorrect ready of the 2nd amendment and the real meaning of it result in people owning guns
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
Justice Kennedy
()
Date: December 10, 2012 12:02AM
no, no it doesnt Wrote:
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> Woolie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Combine that with the fact that the
> > constitution clearly states that firearms are
> for
> > militias (today's national guard).
>
> No, no it doesnt.
>
> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
> security of a free State, the right of the people
> to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>
> Notice the commas, the right of the people and
> militia are separated and being in a militia has
> no bearing on the right to bear arms just like
> every legal scholar and supreme court decision
> says.
>
As now clarified and settled under Heller. Anyone still making the militia argument hasn't been keeping up with events.
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> Woolie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Combine that with the fact that the
> > constitution clearly states that firearms are
> for
> > militias (today's national guard).
>
> No, no it doesnt.
>
> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
> security of a free State, the right of the people
> to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>
> Notice the commas, the right of the people and
> militia are separated and being in a militia has
> no bearing on the right to bear arms just like
> every legal scholar and supreme court decision
> says.
>
As now clarified and settled under Heller. Anyone still making the militia argument hasn't been keeping up with events.
Re: Another Bob Costas Rant Coming tomorrow?
Posted by:
snakeinthegrass
()
Date: December 10, 2012 12:14AM
Well I hope no one gets murdered by "Just for Men" poisoning because he won't be able to dye that collection of hair he has.