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> > > > > > Truthteller:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> > > determine
> > > > > > player eligibility after a move or
> > > transfer.
> > > > > Read
> > > > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > > > determine
> > > > > > whether a student who transfers or
> moves
> > is
> > > > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> > > district
> > > > > > decides whether to allow the transfer,
> > but
> > > > not
> > > > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> > > waiver
> > > > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > > > transfers
> > > > > for
> > > > > > sports. You also posted that Smith
> beats
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > other beach schools soundly, but
> didn’t
> > > > know
> > > > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> > > year’s
> > > > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> > > Seems
> > > > > like
> > > > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> > > before
> > > > > the
> > > > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting
> in
> > > 1998
> > > > > and
> > > > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> > > 28-7-1(1),
> > > > > > making it perfectly clear that you are
> > not
> > > > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> > > your
> > > > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> > > change
> > > > > in
> > > > > > physical address.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
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> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 42.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> > > Requirement
> > > > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > > > from one school to another with no move
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > > > student
> > > > > > can become eligible immediately when
> his
> > > > > parents
> > > > > > move to the zone served by the
> > student’s
> > > > new
> > > > > > school."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT
> not
> > > the
> > > > 3
> > > > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the
> same
> > > > book.
> > > > > School Districts set the rules for
> > transfers
> > > > and
> > > > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> > > Where
> > > > it
> > > > > says Districts, that means School
> > Districts,
> > > > again
> > > > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> > > facts.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are also not very observant, I said
> > > "other
> > > > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > > > Virginia
> > > > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake,
> > again
> > > > get
> > > > > your facts straight before you challenge
> > the
> > > > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in
> > here
> > > > > again and I will slap it back in your
> face,
> > > > AGAIN.
> > > >
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> > > > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must
> be
> > > some
> > > > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he
> > cited
> > > > and his post is accurate about transfers.
> You
> > > got
> > > > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated
> BS.
> > > You
> > > > haven't cited any examples of illegal
> > transfers
> > > > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is
> > stuck
> > > in
> > > > the 1990s before the rule changes. My
> school
> > > > played the ER teams most years and we did
> > > ok--and
> > > > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man
> > up,
> > > let
> > > > people play FB and shut up unless you can
> > cite
> > > ONE
> > > > example. That's how all this started--your
> BS
> > > that
> > > > you can't back up about people cheating.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You know I was going to give you guys the
> > benefit
> > > of doubt that you were just ignorant of the
> > facts,
> > > BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass
> > shit,
> > > trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> > > obviously just liars! who are now trying to
> > bring
> > > pity into play with some Bullshit about kids
> of
> > > military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
> > >
> > > See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> > > handbook. These are just a few of the
> > exceptions
> > > to the Transfer rule! There are pages and
> > pages
> > > of exceptions where someone can work to
> exempt
> > the
> > > limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule.
> > You
> > > continue to get abused with your own
> rulebook,
> > I
> > > feel like the older brother holding your hand
> > and
> > > hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you
> > with
> > > "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING
> YOURSELF!"
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL!! PATHETIC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (7) A school board or division superintendent
> > may
> > > transfer a student, by name,
> > > within the school division without affecting
> > that
> > > student’s eligibility by specifically
> granting
> > a
> > > waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> > > waivers should be considered for the welfare
> of
> > > the student and/or school system and not for
> > > athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> > > Eligibility List of all teams which have
> > students
> > > who have been so waived shall reference the
> > > specific school board minutes or written
> > > documentation granting the waiver
> > >
> > > (5) A student entering the eighth grade for
> the
> > > first time becomes immediately eligible in
> the
> > > high school in which he/she enrolls
> regardless
> > of
> > > his or her residence status. A student
> entering
> > > the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> > > immediately eligible in the high school in
> > which
> > > he/she enrolls regardless of his or her
> > residence
> > > status.
> > >
> > >
> > > (1) A student shall become eligible for
> > > interscholastic competition after he/she has
> > been
> > > enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> > > calendar days. Exception: If a student
> > transfers
> > > during the summer and remains ineligible for
> > the
> > > entire subsequent school year, he/she would
> > become
> > > eligible beginning with the fall season of
> the
> > > following academic year.
> >
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> >
> > Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the
> > waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity"
> > purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates
> > back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're
> > already making excuses for why you don't think
> > whatever team is yours might lose. Every team
> that
> > has made it this far can play.
>
>
> CMON MAN! Do you read before you post? I told you
> I do not give a shit who wins (re read my original
> post), I am just here to tell the truth about
> these "transfers". I quoted directly from the
> VHSL rule book that you referenced. If you have a
> problem with the references refresh your handbook.
>
>
> Are you serious about referring back to the
> "athletic and/or activity" as a deterrent to
> having a transfer! OH YEA! my son wants to come
> to Smith because he really wants to attend this
> better school and OH by the way, he is a pretty
> good football player. Get serious!
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Sure, I can think of 2 schools in the ex-ER whose football programs benefitted from the old days of liberal transfers. Those days ended right around when Landstown titled with Percy Harvin. Your first post stated that Chesapeake kids could still go to "any school" they want as long as they had transportation. Maybe so in the past but the district's current handbook requires in-zone attendance with the same exceptions we have here. Then we linked you to Chesapeake's sports rule book stating that VHSL rules, not the district, decides who can play. Even you cited the rule that playing sports can't be a factor. No player is going to transfer and risk having to sit out the 365 days. Others don't transfer because of the same reasons kids around here don't move and transfer into better programs. Some might still game the system -- but mobility is restricted vs. the way it used to be. Maybe at least we can agree on that unless we find out that some of the current players are illegals. I know Andrew Brown isn't.
Would rather engage you on this weekend's games--can SJ and Westfield pull upsets and will BW end up winning D5 North. What do you think?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2013 04:12PM by SECEAST.