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Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Peyton Manning's Forehead
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Date: December 02, 2012 08:47AM
With the 2012 season coming to an end for the northern region teams (except SB) we need to look forward to 2013. what are we expecting? Who`s returning? what coaching changes are happening (Robinson!!!)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DMVBALL
()
Date: December 02, 2012 10:26AM
predictions for the 2013 northern region
1. Centreville
2. Robinson (depending on new coach)
3. Lake Braddock
4. Westfield
5. West Pot
6. Chantilly
7. Oakton
8. Fairfax
1. Centreville
2. Robinson (depending on new coach)
3. Lake Braddock
4. Westfield
5. West Pot
6. Chantilly
7. Oakton
8. Fairfax
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh no
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Date: December 02, 2012 11:06AM
Are you kidding me? Already posts about the 2013 football season? Give it a rest. JFC.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HornetPride
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Date: December 02, 2012 11:34AM
Look for Herndon to sneak in the top 8! Brian Daye is an excellent coach and he'll have those boys ready!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DMVBALL
()
Date: December 02, 2012 03:54PM
HornetPride Wrote:
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> Look for Herndon to sneak in the top 8! Brian Daye
> is an excellent coach and he'll have those boys
> ready!
hahahahah this is hilarious. i saw herndon play once this year and that was enough for me to tell that they wont be even decent for a veryyyyy long time. the honesly looked like a freshman team out there this past year
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> Look for Herndon to sneak in the top 8! Brian Daye
> is an excellent coach and he'll have those boys
> ready!
hahahahah this is hilarious. i saw herndon play once this year and that was enough for me to tell that they wont be even decent for a veryyyyy long time. the honesly looked like a freshman team out there this past year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVA 2k
()
Date: December 02, 2012 06:10PM
Didn't Brian Daye coach at WTW last season? Good coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cvillebacker
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Date: December 03, 2012 10:03AM
2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats, write it down right now. They return most of the significant players from this year and will win the Region and State Championship. As time goes on and we get in to the season the individual players can be discussed.
Just remember where you heard it first, when this thread is on the 10th page look back here.
Just remember where you heard it first, when this thread is on the 10th page look back here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coaching Changes
()
Date: December 03, 2012 10:06AM
Day was not at WTW.
Now on to coaching status for next year.
Announced so far:
Trey Taylor - Robinson - Fired
Keith Powell - Wakefield - Stepped Down
May be in trouble?:
Kevin Simonds - Fairfax
Said Aziz - Falls Church
Barry Wells - Mount Vernon
Dennis Randolph - TC Williams
Now on to coaching status for next year.
Announced so far:
Trey Taylor - Robinson - Fired
Keith Powell - Wakefield - Stepped Down
May be in trouble?:
Kevin Simonds - Fairfax
Said Aziz - Falls Church
Barry Wells - Mount Vernon
Dennis Randolph - TC Williams
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fan is an idiot
()
Date: December 03, 2012 05:31PM
I would add Parker from Edison to that list as well.
Obviously the guy above did not get the Daye joke.
Obviously the guy above did not get the Daye joke.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 03, 2012 06:27PM
Agree that C'vill improved after struggles with Herndon (14-0 W) and D5 teams Hayfield (OT) and Mt. Vernon. Getting to states from NR is tough plus after that you have to deal whatever beast lurks from other regions. In 2011, O.Smith beat a good C'ville team by 4 TDs. C'Ville's top player got hurt early but Smith's short passing game offset the rush anyway. This year, you had Roberton come here and run for 400+ yards vs. the NR champ. Next year, how do you see teams like w'field, Chantilly and LB doing?
cvillebacker Wrote:
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> 2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats,
> write it down right now. They return most of the
> significant players from this year and will win
> the Region and State Championship. As time goes
> on and we get in to the season the individual
> players can be discussed.
>
> Just remember where you heard it first, when this
> thread is on the 10th page look back here.
cvillebacker Wrote:
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> 2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats,
> write it down right now. They return most of the
> significant players from this year and will win
> the Region and State Championship. As time goes
> on and we get in to the season the individual
> players can be discussed.
>
> Just remember where you heard it first, when this
> thread is on the 10th page look back here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VAball
()
Date: December 03, 2012 07:40PM
the top 3 in the northern region next year will be very strong (robinson,lake braddock, and centreville) without a doubt the state champion will be coming from the northern region next year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
rondo
()
Date: December 05, 2012 07:34AM
People keep throwing Robinson at the top of the list, but I think people will be surprised just how long it takes Pete Bendorf to fix all the issues left behind.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Announced?
()
Date: December 05, 2012 09:31AM
Has it been announced that Pete Bendorf is taking the job? Hard to believe they made a selection already.
Agree that whomever gets the job will take a couple of years to get Robinson back on track.
Agree that whomever gets the job will take a couple of years to get Robinson back on track.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Braden Quintyler
()
Date: December 05, 2012 01:02PM
In 2020, here is the prediction of finishers in the Northern Region:
1. Fairfax
2. Robinson (depending on new coach)
3. Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, MD
4. Lake Braddock
5. West Pot
6. Centreville
7. Fairfax
8. Fairfax
A couple of key points. Fairfax county and Montgomery county are expected to redistrict and merge. The new region will be called the southern/northern region OR the northern/southern region, depending on which state you live in. Also, fairfax will grow exponentially and will field 3 varsity, 5 JV and 8 1/2 freshman teams. Their 3 varsity teams are listed above.
1. Fairfax
2. Robinson (depending on new coach)
3. Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, MD
4. Lake Braddock
5. West Pot
6. Centreville
7. Fairfax
8. Fairfax
A couple of key points. Fairfax county and Montgomery county are expected to redistrict and merge. The new region will be called the southern/northern region OR the northern/southern region, depending on which state you live in. Also, fairfax will grow exponentially and will field 3 varsity, 5 JV and 8 1/2 freshman teams. Their 3 varsity teams are listed above.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
rondo
()
Date: December 05, 2012 02:07PM
Oddly Fairfax' C team is my prediction for the Region.
Hell.. their JV B team could beat that A team!
Hell.. their JV B team could beat that A team!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fake tyler braden
()
Date: December 05, 2012 02:19PM
Westfield used to be above smack talking with Fairfax...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Felton
()
Date: December 06, 2012 06:55PM
That wasnt Brian Daye at WTW 2 yrs ago. That was Brian Howells. Good coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
rex ryan
()
Date: December 07, 2012 12:57AM
as much as i hate to say it i believe robinson is in fact the team to beat in the northern region next year with taylor being gone. i watched them play a couple times toward the end of the season and they started a very promising sophomore qb and with the return of joe wilson they will be very dangerous. heres the rest of my predictions
robinson
westfield
lake braddock
chantilly
centreville
oakton
fairfax
madison
robinson
westfield
lake braddock
chantilly
centreville
oakton
fairfax
madison
Realignment 2013
Posted by:
GridIron1
()
Date: December 07, 2012 06:03PM
Anybody know how NR D6 playoffs will work next year? Realignment apparently creates 4 conferences, with Conference 5 being Concorde teams. Look like Battlefield, Stonewall J., Hayfield, Madison, and Yorktown are in NR-D6, too. Anybody know if that's true and how many teams will make playoffs? Is it the 4 conference champs plus the next four based on power points?
rex ryan Wrote:
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> as much as i hate to say it i believe robinson is
> in fact the team to beat in the northern region
> next year with taylor being gone. i watched them
> play a couple times toward the end of the season
> and they started a very promising sophomore qb and
> with the return of joe wilson they will be very
> dangerous. heres the rest of my predictions
>
>
> robinson
> westfield
> lake braddock
> chantilly
> centreville
> oakton
> fairfax
> madison
rex ryan Wrote:
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> as much as i hate to say it i believe robinson is
> in fact the team to beat in the northern region
> next year with taylor being gone. i watched them
> play a couple times toward the end of the season
> and they started a very promising sophomore qb and
> with the return of joe wilson they will be very
> dangerous. heres the rest of my predictions
>
>
> robinson
> westfield
> lake braddock
> chantilly
> centreville
> oakton
> fairfax
> madison
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
new kid on the block
()
Date: December 07, 2012 06:11PM
West Springfield is getting a new head coach and is going to have a solid team this fall, I predict them to be the sleeper.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: December 07, 2012 08:25PM
Centreville is the team to beat. Yorktown is also a huge threat because of their one man team.
There is no more northern region. The top 16 teams in 6a north will make the playoffs. The winner will play the champ of 6a south for the state championship. No more district champ or region champ. The top 16 is still decided by power points. Basically all fcps schools except for Lee, Mt Vernon, Marshall, and falls church are now D6. The PWC schools that were in the nowrthwest d6 west of Hylton are now in d6 north too, the other d6 schools go to the south. A very bad plan.
There is no more northern region. The top 16 teams in 6a north will make the playoffs. The winner will play the champ of 6a south for the state championship. No more district champ or region champ. The top 16 is still decided by power points. Basically all fcps schools except for Lee, Mt Vernon, Marshall, and falls church are now D6. The PWC schools that were in the nowrthwest d6 west of Hylton are now in d6 north too, the other d6 schools go to the south. A very bad plan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Doctor VHSL
()
Date: December 08, 2012 09:26AM
Not totally accurate, but close.
First, you are missing three FCPS teams that are now Class 5A North – TJ, Edison, and Stuart. Also moved to 5A North from the NR (but not FCPS) are Wakefield and Stone Bridge.
Second, there are still District Championships (at least for football) and they will be determined, as they are now – best record against district opponents.
Third the top 16 from class 6A North and South will play until there are two teams left – how they deal with the final 4 has not been approved yet – one option is to cross bracket so the best in 6A North plays the 2nd best in 6A South and vice versa – that would theoretically lead to the best two teams in the final – the other option is as you describe it – champion of North plays champion of South.
FYI the Non NR teams that are now in 6A North are: Battlefield, Stonewall Jackson, Osbourn, Osbourn Park and Patriot. Also there are significant changes to how power points are computed but the details are two complicated to go into here. If interested go to http://www.vhsl.org/classification.alignment-2013-15.
First, you are missing three FCPS teams that are now Class 5A North – TJ, Edison, and Stuart. Also moved to 5A North from the NR (but not FCPS) are Wakefield and Stone Bridge.
Second, there are still District Championships (at least for football) and they will be determined, as they are now – best record against district opponents.
Third the top 16 from class 6A North and South will play until there are two teams left – how they deal with the final 4 has not been approved yet – one option is to cross bracket so the best in 6A North plays the 2nd best in 6A South and vice versa – that would theoretically lead to the best two teams in the final – the other option is as you describe it – champion of North plays champion of South.
FYI the Non NR teams that are now in 6A North are: Battlefield, Stonewall Jackson, Osbourn, Osbourn Park and Patriot. Also there are significant changes to how power points are computed but the details are two complicated to go into here. If interested go to http://www.vhsl.org/classification.alignment-2013-15.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: December 08, 2012 02:31PM
There are no district champs because there are no districts. They are conferences with numbers attached. There is no more Concorde district, therefor no champ.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Correction
()
Date: December 08, 2012 03:04PM
Really...talent Wrote:
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> There are no district champs because there are no
> districts. They are conferences with numbers
> attached. There is no more Concorde district,
> therefor no champ.
I thought this as well, bu I was wrong. The districts will still remain from what administrators have told me but this new classification helps set up playoffs for regionals and beyond. I know it sounds wrong and is confusig but it is true.
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> There are no district champs because there are no
> districts. They are conferences with numbers
> attached. There is no more Concorde district,
> therefor no champ.
I thought this as well, bu I was wrong. The districts will still remain from what administrators have told me but this new classification helps set up playoffs for regionals and beyond. I know it sounds wrong and is confusig but it is true.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Doctor VHSL
()
Date: December 08, 2012 05:23PM
Really...talent Wrote:
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> There are no district champs because there are no
> districts. They are conferences with numbers
> attached. There is no more Concorde district,
> therefor no champ.
No you are wrong, please go to the link above and read all the material - districts remain and at least for football district champs are determined as they are now (propbably for other sports too, but I only follow football). BTW the conferences mean nothing for football - it is the top 16 teams in the North and South regardless of conference - I assume (but do not know or care) that conferences come into play for playoffs in other sports.
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> There are no district champs because there are no
> districts. They are conferences with numbers
> attached. There is no more Concorde district,
> therefor no champ.
No you are wrong, please go to the link above and read all the material - districts remain and at least for football district champs are determined as they are now (propbably for other sports too, but I only follow football). BTW the conferences mean nothing for football - it is the top 16 teams in the North and South regardless of conference - I assume (but do not know or care) that conferences come into play for playoffs in other sports.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Correction
()
Date: December 08, 2012 06:37PM
Doctor VHSL Wrote:
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> Really...talent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There are no district champs because there are
> no
> > districts. They are conferences with numbers
> > attached. There is no more Concorde district,
> > therefor no champ.
>
> No you are wrong, please go to the link above and
> read all the material - districts remain and at
> least for football district champs are determined
> as they are now (propbably for other sports too,
> but I only follow football). BTW the conferences
> mean nothing for football - it is the top 16 teams
> in the North and South regardless of conference -
> I assume (but do not know or care) that
> conferences come into play for playoffs in other
> sports.
This is correct, the only other sport I have seen it different for is lacrosse and that is because there is just a lack of teams in the smaller schools so there will be a 6A championship and a 5A-1A championship game. A lot of this stuff seems confusing now, but once it plays out it will make since. This ensures that the teams who belong in the final hunt for trophies are there and not because they finished 4th in a weak district and have an automatic bid. This also ensures that if you play a tough schedule and you win then you look great and if you play a tough schedule and lose half of the games, then you still have a shot of getting in as opposed to a team who played so many weak teams and lost 1/4 of the games. This really levels the playing field without getting rid of the district rivalries and awards.
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> Really...talent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There are no district champs because there are
> no
> > districts. They are conferences with numbers
> > attached. There is no more Concorde district,
> > therefor no champ.
>
> No you are wrong, please go to the link above and
> read all the material - districts remain and at
> least for football district champs are determined
> as they are now (propbably for other sports too,
> but I only follow football). BTW the conferences
> mean nothing for football - it is the top 16 teams
> in the North and South regardless of conference -
> I assume (but do not know or care) that
> conferences come into play for playoffs in other
> sports.
This is correct, the only other sport I have seen it different for is lacrosse and that is because there is just a lack of teams in the smaller schools so there will be a 6A championship and a 5A-1A championship game. A lot of this stuff seems confusing now, but once it plays out it will make since. This ensures that the teams who belong in the final hunt for trophies are there and not because they finished 4th in a weak district and have an automatic bid. This also ensures that if you play a tough schedule and you win then you look great and if you play a tough schedule and lose half of the games, then you still have a shot of getting in as opposed to a team who played so many weak teams and lost 1/4 of the games. This really levels the playing field without getting rid of the district rivalries and awards.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: December 09, 2012 12:10AM
Notice your link and the districts have not been approved yet. It will be voted on in March. There is still a lot to be worked out. Money, travel, ect.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Doctor VHSL
()
Date: December 09, 2012 11:17AM
Really...talent Wrote:
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> Notice your link and the districts have not been
> approved yet. It will be voted on in March.
> There is still a lot to be worked out. Money,
> travel, ect.
I am not sure where you got the March date? The Executive Committee met on December 5th and approved the new Conference Alignment Plan. The only thing left to be worked out is how the semifinal will be done - standard bracket (1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3) or have a North and South champion which would face each other in the final. The Executive Committee left this decision up to each classification (6a, 5a etc.). The minutes have not been posted yet, but a summary of the Executive Committee decision is at: http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/ec-2012-highlights-december.pdf
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> Notice your link and the districts have not been
> approved yet. It will be voted on in March.
> There is still a lot to be worked out. Money,
> travel, ect.
I am not sure where you got the March date? The Executive Committee met on December 5th and approved the new Conference Alignment Plan. The only thing left to be worked out is how the semifinal will be done - standard bracket (1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3) or have a North and South champion which would face each other in the final. The Executive Committee left this decision up to each classification (6a, 5a etc.). The minutes have not been posted yet, but a summary of the Executive Committee decision is at: http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/ec-2012-highlights-december.pdf
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: December 09, 2012 11:24AM
Coaching Changes Wrote:
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> Day was not at WTW.
>
> Now on to coaching status for next year.
>
> Announced so far:
>
> Trey Taylor - Robinson - Fired
> Keith Powell - Wakefield - Stepped Down
>
> May be in trouble?:
>
> Kevin Simonds - Fairfax
> Said Aziz - Falls Church
> Barry Wells - Mount Vernon
> Dennis Randolph - TC Williams
Wouldn't be surprised if Wooten from South Lakes is in trouble. He's had two really bad years in a row. Hill did a good job with a mediocre (at best) team. So did Ellenberger.
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> Day was not at WTW.
>
> Now on to coaching status for next year.
>
> Announced so far:
>
> Trey Taylor - Robinson - Fired
> Keith Powell - Wakefield - Stepped Down
>
> May be in trouble?:
>
> Kevin Simonds - Fairfax
> Said Aziz - Falls Church
> Barry Wells - Mount Vernon
> Dennis Randolph - TC Williams
Wouldn't be surprised if Wooten from South Lakes is in trouble. He's had two really bad years in a row. Hill did a good job with a mediocre (at best) team. So did Ellenberger.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
former coach
()
Date: December 09, 2012 11:54AM
To carry on w/Young Curmudgeon's post
Remember, The Mt. Vernon and TC Williams connection....the MtV AD is the husband of the TC Williams principal. Do you think they both want to be looking for coaches in the same year?
Another twist is that the MtV head coach is a frat brother of the MtV princiapl's husband. That would be an awkward firing. See you at the reunion?
West Springfield is now open. He left on his terms, since he was not supported with the hiring of coaches.
Falls Church......not a football minded admin and a female AD, so the head coach who chases away kids for a lack of discipline is left w/minimal talent. This job should have been open two years ago.
South Lakes.....can the female AD really fire the guy she brought in to replace her former asst AD/head coach? That would look like she is admitting that she botched in the hiring.
Fairfax....another female AD....a football mind? She is not the one who hired him. Who does she have close that she can rely on for football info?
Wakefield....another female AD....tat school has lots of talent w/no discipline, but who wants it. It is Arlington County, so you mess w/the Fairfax retirement.
Don't be surprised to see Taylor land his feet on the SC sideline w/his ole pal Pannoni.
What former head coaches are still teaching/working?
Bendorf
Ellenberger
Everett
Henderson
Muskett
Rivera
Remember, The Mt. Vernon and TC Williams connection....the MtV AD is the husband of the TC Williams principal. Do you think they both want to be looking for coaches in the same year?
Another twist is that the MtV head coach is a frat brother of the MtV princiapl's husband. That would be an awkward firing. See you at the reunion?
West Springfield is now open. He left on his terms, since he was not supported with the hiring of coaches.
Falls Church......not a football minded admin and a female AD, so the head coach who chases away kids for a lack of discipline is left w/minimal talent. This job should have been open two years ago.
South Lakes.....can the female AD really fire the guy she brought in to replace her former asst AD/head coach? That would look like she is admitting that she botched in the hiring.
Fairfax....another female AD....a football mind? She is not the one who hired him. Who does she have close that she can rely on for football info?
Wakefield....another female AD....tat school has lots of talent w/no discipline, but who wants it. It is Arlington County, so you mess w/the Fairfax retirement.
Don't be surprised to see Taylor land his feet on the SC sideline w/his ole pal Pannoni.
What former head coaches are still teaching/working?
Bendorf
Ellenberger
Everett
Henderson
Muskett
Rivera
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan Dad
()
Date: December 09, 2012 05:48PM
former coach Wrote:
>
> West Springfield is now open. He left on his
> terms, since he was not supported with the hiring
> of coaches.
LMAO – What coach did he want to hire that he was not allowed to? He left because he knew he was about to be fired due to very unhappy players and parents!
In the NFL and college they often hire coordinators as head coaches - why is it around here they seem to just recycle the recently fired head coaches? I know of at least one current OC and one former DC that would be great as our new head coach.
>
> West Springfield is now open. He left on his
> terms, since he was not supported with the hiring
> of coaches.
LMAO – What coach did he want to hire that he was not allowed to? He left because he knew he was about to be fired due to very unhappy players and parents!
In the NFL and college they often hire coordinators as head coaches - why is it around here they seem to just recycle the recently fired head coaches? I know of at least one current OC and one former DC that would be great as our new head coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
former coach
()
Date: December 09, 2012 09:48PM
Spartan Dad....since you know these guys.....go ahead and encourage them to go for the job. Be prepared for both of them to voice how they 1) don't want it, 2) don't get it because they are unknowns, or 3) will turn down the offer when they do not get their own short list of assistants in the building.
West Springfield is not an enviable job. It is a bigger school w/a small athletic minority population and no solid connection w/footbal enhancing sports of wrestling, lacrosse nor track. There are dozens of D3 quality kids playing there, but when they do not get D1 offers they "retire" to HS memories. This is a problem county-wide.
The good ole boy system is still intact in FC. The AD is not a football guy, so he will call his contacts to get suggestions. A lot of good that will do to call over to WTW for help. NOT! They need their own coach.
Many head coaches get 5-6 assistants in the building when they accept the job. Not all will be teachers, some will be security and instructional assistants, many times having been former players of the head coach at his previous positions. WSHS is an easy place to work w/minimal oversight. These jobs do not open often making it difficult to get support in the building. There are principals in this county who move football coaches out and some who "create" positions to add new coaches and some do both. WSHS has not been one of those schools for over a decade.
Those are all general items.
More specifically, Biddi had a few willing leftovers from the previous staff. That rarely works, especially when following a winning program. I wonder how most dads would fare with no miltary rank over their subordinates, nor govt contracts to pull. It is a challenge most never encounter.
Now please do not deny that WSHS had two very good QBs under the previous coach. To continue that run w/no true connection to SYC football is next to impossible. And please do not think the previous guy was all that. He had a good run at WSHS. However, he is the only coach in MT Vernon history to never make the playoffs. He fell short of expectations at Langley a few times and following WSHS, he did not do himself justice down in NC.
The school had a gem in a strength coach for years, yet the guy in the weightroom, not Biddi changes directions completely and goes for beach bodies instead of NFL designed strength.
Biddi was given 1 coach in four years. That is an embarrassing level of support especially at a school where Friday night football brings out a crowd. There are only a half dozen schools with consistent crowds at games win or lose like WSHS. Kudos to them for this.
The next head coach has a HUGE hill to climb mainly because community expectations are way out of perspective. I wish him all the best.
I will be there Fridays in the fall. You please do not be the guy yelling, "Run your 'other' play!"
West Springfield is not an enviable job. It is a bigger school w/a small athletic minority population and no solid connection w/footbal enhancing sports of wrestling, lacrosse nor track. There are dozens of D3 quality kids playing there, but when they do not get D1 offers they "retire" to HS memories. This is a problem county-wide.
The good ole boy system is still intact in FC. The AD is not a football guy, so he will call his contacts to get suggestions. A lot of good that will do to call over to WTW for help. NOT! They need their own coach.
Many head coaches get 5-6 assistants in the building when they accept the job. Not all will be teachers, some will be security and instructional assistants, many times having been former players of the head coach at his previous positions. WSHS is an easy place to work w/minimal oversight. These jobs do not open often making it difficult to get support in the building. There are principals in this county who move football coaches out and some who "create" positions to add new coaches and some do both. WSHS has not been one of those schools for over a decade.
Those are all general items.
More specifically, Biddi had a few willing leftovers from the previous staff. That rarely works, especially when following a winning program. I wonder how most dads would fare with no miltary rank over their subordinates, nor govt contracts to pull. It is a challenge most never encounter.
Now please do not deny that WSHS had two very good QBs under the previous coach. To continue that run w/no true connection to SYC football is next to impossible. And please do not think the previous guy was all that. He had a good run at WSHS. However, he is the only coach in MT Vernon history to never make the playoffs. He fell short of expectations at Langley a few times and following WSHS, he did not do himself justice down in NC.
The school had a gem in a strength coach for years, yet the guy in the weightroom, not Biddi changes directions completely and goes for beach bodies instead of NFL designed strength.
Biddi was given 1 coach in four years. That is an embarrassing level of support especially at a school where Friday night football brings out a crowd. There are only a half dozen schools with consistent crowds at games win or lose like WSHS. Kudos to them for this.
The next head coach has a HUGE hill to climb mainly because community expectations are way out of perspective. I wish him all the best.
I will be there Fridays in the fall. You please do not be the guy yelling, "Run your 'other' play!"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan Dad
()
Date: December 10, 2012 08:33AM
So he was not denied an assistant – just didn’t get much help getting them in the building. What is the big deal about being in the building, in fact why is it even important that they be in FCPS at all. Some of the very best coordinators and position coaches in the NR are not in FCPS, while many of the awful HC/DC/OC and asst. coaches are. Many of the skills critical to being a good head coach – leadership, management, budget/finance and public relations (with the administration, parents and allum) aren’t even part of many teachers skill set/experience/educational background.
Your comparison of military/contractors to head coaching are laughable. I can think of no job where a person has more authority or obedient followers than a Head Football Coach – they are practically dictators and there are too many of them that act like Fidel Castro (that’s what pushed Taylor out of Robinson and will likely lead to Pannoni’s downfall as well).
P.S. I am no Renner fan – he only cared about his kid, had a different set of rules for his favorites and was generally unsuccessful (pretty sure his life-time record is below .500) except for his last few years when he had back to back D1 quality QBs.
Your comparison of military/contractors to head coaching are laughable. I can think of no job where a person has more authority or obedient followers than a Head Football Coach – they are practically dictators and there are too many of them that act like Fidel Castro (that’s what pushed Taylor out of Robinson and will likely lead to Pannoni’s downfall as well).
P.S. I am no Renner fan – he only cared about his kid, had a different set of rules for his favorites and was generally unsuccessful (pretty sure his life-time record is below .500) except for his last few years when he had back to back D1 quality QBs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Linda Jones
()
Date: December 10, 2012 08:48AM
Medicore Talent? Hill had 4 division 1 players when he was there... Ellenberger had several Division 1 players and couldn't figure it out.
I didn't agree with TE Wooten hire but they showed improvement this year. South is not a athletic school at all! Even there basketball team sucks now.
I didn't agree with TE Wooten hire but they showed improvement this year. South is not a athletic school at all! Even there basketball team sucks now.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Playoff Picks
()
Date: December 10, 2012 09:09AM
Screw the coaching changes, let's talk about next year's playoffs. My preseason picks are as follows:
6A North Top 16 for 2013
1) Westfield
2) Centreville
3) Lake Braddock
4) Battlefield
5) Chantilly
6) Stonewall Jackson
7) Oakton
8) Yorktown
9) Hayfield
10) South County
11) Madison
12) Langley
13) West Potomac
14) Osbourn
15) Robinson
16) Fairfax
6A North Top 16 for 2013
1) Westfield
2) Centreville
3) Lake Braddock
4) Battlefield
5) Chantilly
6) Stonewall Jackson
7) Oakton
8) Yorktown
9) Hayfield
10) South County
11) Madison
12) Langley
13) West Potomac
14) Osbourn
15) Robinson
16) Fairfax
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
the SL way
()
Date: December 10, 2012 01:40PM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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>
> Wouldn't be surprised if Wooten from South Lakes
> is in trouble. He's had two really bad years in a
> row. Hill did a good job with a mediocre (at best)
> team. So did Ellenberger.
He isn't in trouble, all SL varsity sports coaches seem to come with a minimum six year guaranteed contract regardless of the results they produce. Ellenberger had much better talent then Whooten's had in his first two years and I doubt there's a better candidate out there waiting for this job.
Other than built in job security for coaches, the other main problem w/SL is the youth sports programs in Reston suck. Most parents I know tried a Reston youth sports program for a year and then immediately pulled their kids out and sent them to CYA, SYA, Vienna or Ashburn.
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>
> Wouldn't be surprised if Wooten from South Lakes
> is in trouble. He's had two really bad years in a
> row. Hill did a good job with a mediocre (at best)
> team. So did Ellenberger.
He isn't in trouble, all SL varsity sports coaches seem to come with a minimum six year guaranteed contract regardless of the results they produce. Ellenberger had much better talent then Whooten's had in his first two years and I doubt there's a better candidate out there waiting for this job.
Other than built in job security for coaches, the other main problem w/SL is the youth sports programs in Reston suck. Most parents I know tried a Reston youth sports program for a year and then immediately pulled their kids out and sent them to CYA, SYA, Vienna or Ashburn.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Renner
()
Date: December 10, 2012 03:48PM
Renner didn't have favorites as much as he knew your son was raised has your DNA.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 10, 2012 04:12PM
Playoff Picks Wrote:
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> Screw the coaching changes, let's talk about next
> year's playoffs. My preseason picks are as
> follows:
>
> 6A North Top 16 for 2013
>
> 1) Westfield
> 2) Centreville
> 3) Lake Braddock
> 4) Battlefield
> 5) Chantilly
> 6) Stonewall Jackson
> 7) Oakton
> 8) Yorktown
> 9) Hayfield
> 10) South County
> 11) Madison
> 12) Langley
> 13) West Potomac
> 14) Osbourn
> 15) Robinson
16) Fairfax
These picks make a lot of sense. I'm curious about whether other people on this board feel strongly that a few other teams should be on this list. I don't see any right now but def could be wrong.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Screw the coaching changes, let's talk about next
> year's playoffs. My preseason picks are as
> follows:
>
> 6A North Top 16 for 2013
>
> 1) Westfield
> 2) Centreville
> 3) Lake Braddock
> 4) Battlefield
> 5) Chantilly
> 6) Stonewall Jackson
> 7) Oakton
> 8) Yorktown
> 9) Hayfield
> 10) South County
> 11) Madison
> 12) Langley
> 13) West Potomac
> 14) Osbourn
> 15) Robinson
16) Fairfax
These picks make a lot of sense. I'm curious about whether other people on this board feel strongly that a few other teams should be on this list. I don't see any right now but def could be wrong.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oakton 05
()
Date: December 10, 2012 04:17PM
South Lakes has the former best Oakton neighborhood for athletic talent. How can you say they don't have talent. The truth of the matter is some students go private to avoid south lakes. Their coaches are terrible.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Run from SL
()
Date: December 10, 2012 05:40PM
Oakton 05 Wrote:
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> South Lakes has the former best Oakton
> neighborhood for athletic talent. How can you say
> they don't have talent. The truth of the matter is
> some students go private to avoid south lakes.
> Their coaches are terrible.
Truth of the Matter is we all pupil place at Oakton. I play baseball for oakton and a lot of people here avoid South Lakes by gettingpupil placed back at Oakton. Some of my friends go to South Lakes and they wish they went to Oakton. Some of my other friends chose to go to PVI, Flint Hill and OConnel.
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> South Lakes has the former best Oakton
> neighborhood for athletic talent. How can you say
> they don't have talent. The truth of the matter is
> some students go private to avoid south lakes.
> Their coaches are terrible.
Truth of the Matter is we all pupil place at Oakton. I play baseball for oakton and a lot of people here avoid South Lakes by gettingpupil placed back at Oakton. Some of my friends go to South Lakes and they wish they went to Oakton. Some of my other friends chose to go to PVI, Flint Hill and OConnel.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: December 10, 2012 06:45PM
Run from SL Wrote:
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> Oakton 05 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South Lakes has the former best Oakton
> > neighborhood for athletic talent. How can you
> say
> > they don't have talent. The truth of the matter
> is
> > some students go private to avoid south lakes.
> > Their coaches are terrible.
>
>
> Truth of the Matter is we all pupil place at
> Oakton. I play baseball for oakton and a lot of
> people here avoid South Lakes by gettingpupil
> placed back at Oakton. Some of my friends go to
> South Lakes and they wish they went to Oakton.
> Some of my other friends chose to go to PVI, Flint
> Hill and OConnel.
Yeah, that's to be expected. South Lakes isn't a horrible high school. South Lakes is awful athletically.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Oakton 05 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South Lakes has the former best Oakton
> > neighborhood for athletic talent. How can you
> say
> > they don't have talent. The truth of the matter
> is
> > some students go private to avoid south lakes.
> > Their coaches are terrible.
>
>
> Truth of the Matter is we all pupil place at
> Oakton. I play baseball for oakton and a lot of
> people here avoid South Lakes by gettingpupil
> placed back at Oakton. Some of my friends go to
> South Lakes and they wish they went to Oakton.
> Some of my other friends chose to go to PVI, Flint
> Hill and OConnel.
Yeah, that's to be expected. South Lakes isn't a horrible high school. South Lakes is awful athletically.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cvillebacker
()
Date: December 12, 2012 11:36AM
Playoff Picks Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Screw the coaching changes, let's talk about next
> year's playoffs. My preseason picks are as
> follows:
>
> 6A North Top 16 for 2013
>
> 1) Westfield
> 2) Centreville
> 3) Lake Braddock
> 4) Battlefield
> 5) Chantilly
> 6) Stonewall Jackson
> 7) Oakton
> 8) Yorktown
> 9) Hayfield
> 10) South County
> 11) Madison
> 12) Langley
> 13) West Potomac
> 14) Osbourn
> 15) Robinson
> 16) Fairfax
I agree lets move on! Here are my pre pre-season playoff picks. Do not know that much about former NW Region teams, going off reputation really.
6A North Top 16 for 2013
1)Centreville
2)Lake Braddock
3)Westfield
4)Chantilly
5)Stonewall Jackson
6)Robinson
7)Battlefield
8)Oakton
9)Hayfield
10)Yorktown
11)West Potomac
12)Langley
13)Osbourn
14)Madison
15)South County
16)Fairfax
-------------------------------------------------------
> Screw the coaching changes, let's talk about next
> year's playoffs. My preseason picks are as
> follows:
>
> 6A North Top 16 for 2013
>
> 1) Westfield
> 2) Centreville
> 3) Lake Braddock
> 4) Battlefield
> 5) Chantilly
> 6) Stonewall Jackson
> 7) Oakton
> 8) Yorktown
> 9) Hayfield
> 10) South County
> 11) Madison
> 12) Langley
> 13) West Potomac
> 14) Osbourn
> 15) Robinson
> 16) Fairfax
I agree lets move on! Here are my pre pre-season playoff picks. Do not know that much about former NW Region teams, going off reputation really.
6A North Top 16 for 2013
1)Centreville
2)Lake Braddock
3)Westfield
4)Chantilly
5)Stonewall Jackson
6)Robinson
7)Battlefield
8)Oakton
9)Hayfield
10)Yorktown
11)West Potomac
12)Langley
13)Osbourn
14)Madison
15)South County
16)Fairfax
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Roosevelt Eaton
()
Date: December 12, 2012 11:42AM
How is the D5 group gonna look next year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ken Beatrice
()
Date: December 12, 2012 11:49AM
People people people
get a fucking life
I'm a shut in which is my excuse but to be pontificating on the 2013 high school season in dec. 2012? come on!
go find yur parents record collection and listen to some real music with melody
go watch the Godfather trilogy
email ESPN Classic and tell them to run some games from classic sports era's like the 1970's and 1980's instead of that shit they run now
read a Ken kesey book
plant a tree
instead of listening to the tired shit your teachers spout about being green
but pontificating about 2013 football geez louise
get a fucking life
I'm a shut in which is my excuse but to be pontificating on the 2013 high school season in dec. 2012? come on!
go find yur parents record collection and listen to some real music with melody
go watch the Godfather trilogy
email ESPN Classic and tell them to run some games from classic sports era's like the 1970's and 1980's instead of that shit they run now
read a Ken kesey book
plant a tree
instead of listening to the tired shit your teachers spout about being green
but pontificating about 2013 football geez louise
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FHS Alum
()
Date: December 12, 2012 11:59AM
FHS takes states
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HSFB observer
()
Date: December 12, 2012 04:06PM
Roosevelt Eaton Wrote:
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> How is the D5 group gonna look next year?
No reason not to think Stone Bridge will be a factor again since they always seem to be but Briar Woods will also be moving up to D5. Oddly, D6 State champ LC Bird is D5 next year and based on enrollment (1,750) should have been this year.
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> How is the D5 group gonna look next year?
No reason not to think Stone Bridge will be a factor again since they always seem to be but Briar Woods will also be moving up to D5. Oddly, D6 State champ LC Bird is D5 next year and based on enrollment (1,750) should have been this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram Alum
()
Date: December 12, 2012 05:20PM
Anyone heard any news out of Robinson? There has to be some candidates by now.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SteveK2
()
Date: December 12, 2012 07:16PM
Ram Alum Wrote:
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> Anyone heard any news out of Robinson? There has
> to be some candidates by now.
The LC Bird head coach will get the Robinson job
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> Anyone heard any news out of Robinson? There has
> to be some candidates by now.
The LC Bird head coach will get the Robinson job
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robinson
()
Date: December 12, 2012 07:35PM
The new Robinson head coach currently coaches at Centreville. LC Bird coach is not coming up here. He played at fairfax not Robinson.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
GridIron1
()
Date: December 12, 2012 09:38PM
Ken Beatrice: Dude, this is a football chat thread. If you don't like FB, don't hate on us. Go listen to your own record collection, plant a tree or do whatever else you wrote about in your post. There's plenty to talk about--VHSL realighment, coaching changes, recruiting, 7 on 7 leagues starting in March, college bowl games, pro games, etc. C'mon, share your insights. Don't be a hater.
Ken Beatrice Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> People people people
> get a fucking life
> I'm a shut in which is my excuse but to be
> pontificating on the 2013 high school season in
> dec. 2012? come on!
> go find yur parents record collection and listen
> to some real music with melody
> go watch the Godfather trilogy
> email ESPN Classic and tell them to run some games
> from classic sports era's like the 1970's and
> 1980's instead of that shit they run now
> read a Ken kesey book
> plant a tree
> instead of listening to the tired shit your
> teachers spout about being green
>
> but pontificating about 2013 football geez louise
Ken Beatrice Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> People people people
> get a fucking life
> I'm a shut in which is my excuse but to be
> pontificating on the 2013 high school season in
> dec. 2012? come on!
> go find yur parents record collection and listen
> to some real music with melody
> go watch the Godfather trilogy
> email ESPN Classic and tell them to run some games
> from classic sports era's like the 1970's and
> 1980's instead of that shit they run now
> read a Ken kesey book
> plant a tree
> instead of listening to the tired shit your
> teachers spout about being green
>
> but pontificating about 2013 football geez louise
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
waiting
()
Date: December 12, 2012 10:04PM
Does anyone have a copy of the 2013 master schedule, or know where I can find it? I would like to look at next season's out-of-district matchups! With the postseason conference realignment I think a lot of Northern Region teams will now have a shot at the playoffs with sub-par records. Disagree with it or not if it means more football games then I'll take it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fan is an idiot
()
Date: December 12, 2012 10:11PM
waiting Wrote:
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> Does anyone have a copy of the 2013 master
> schedule, or know where I can find it? I would
> like to look at next season's out-of-district
> matchups! With the postseason conference
> realignment I think a lot of Northern Region teams
> will now have a shot at the playoffs with sub-par
> records. Disagree with it or not if it means more
> football games then I'll take it.
The schedule isn't made until the spring/summer time. This isn't the NFL. Teams usually do not post it until early August or so when tryouts start.
The new system should make for the best teams with the toughest schedules/best record in their respective conferences to be in the playoffs. This past year we had teams with 6-4 and 5-5 records make the playoffs so how would that be any different than what you are looking forward to? You will get the same amount of playoff football so don't worry.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Does anyone have a copy of the 2013 master
> schedule, or know where I can find it? I would
> like to look at next season's out-of-district
> matchups! With the postseason conference
> realignment I think a lot of Northern Region teams
> will now have a shot at the playoffs with sub-par
> records. Disagree with it or not if it means more
> football games then I'll take it.
The schedule isn't made until the spring/summer time. This isn't the NFL. Teams usually do not post it until early August or so when tryouts start.
The new system should make for the best teams with the toughest schedules/best record in their respective conferences to be in the playoffs. This past year we had teams with 6-4 and 5-5 records make the playoffs so how would that be any different than what you are looking forward to? You will get the same amount of playoff football so don't worry.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Correction
()
Date: December 13, 2012 04:16PM
Not true...The "region" schedule has already been made. It is set by a committee made up of mostly DSA's but sometimes Principals/Admistrators and the like. While the scheduled won't be publicly posted on school's/boosters sites until the summer, they are know well in advance.
Also, with the new post-season classifications for 2013-15 it is likely that teams with only 3 wins will make playoff appearances, depending on who they play. This is because a lot of teams in this area have a stronger "strength of schedule" compared to some other teams within their division & conference. For example, I heard that if played under the new alignments, Falls Church would have made it with a 3-7 record, due to the fact that other teams (formerly of the NW region) were weaker.
Also, with the new post-season classifications for 2013-15 it is likely that teams with only 3 wins will make playoff appearances, depending on who they play. This is because a lot of teams in this area have a stronger "strength of schedule" compared to some other teams within their division & conference. For example, I heard that if played under the new alignments, Falls Church would have made it with a 3-7 record, due to the fact that other teams (formerly of the NW region) were weaker.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr. Power Points
()
Date: December 13, 2012 04:38PM
In the 6A class 6-4 will be required to guarantee a playoff berth - there will be a couple of 5-5 teams but they will be 1 vs 16 and 2 vs 15 in the first round and it won't be pretty.
I haven't worked the numbers for the 5A class but I would be surprised if 3-7 would get you in. Under the new power points system if you have to play "down" because a team is in your district you get the same amount of power points as if they were the same class.
I haven't worked the numbers for the 5A class but I would be surprised if 3-7 would get you in. Under the new power points system if you have to play "down" because a team is in your district you get the same amount of power points as if they were the same class.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just Curious
()
Date: December 14, 2012 09:54AM
Robinson Wrote:
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> The new Robinson head coach currently coaches at
> Centreville. LC Bird coach is not coming up here.
> He played at fairfax not Robinson.
So who is it?
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> The new Robinson head coach currently coaches at
> Centreville. LC Bird coach is not coming up here.
> He played at fairfax not Robinson.
So who is it?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JustaCoach
()
Date: December 14, 2012 10:48AM
Maybe Marc Matthie, their def. coordinator?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
why
()
Date: December 14, 2012 01:18PM
These new changes are so stupid. what was wrong with the old format this is rediculous.the region championships have always been a huge deal and now we are taking that away. this is not a good move for va football. and the robinson job has yet to be determined so i dont what all this talk about the centreville coach is. I would imagine its pretty much pete bendorfs job if he wants it
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: December 14, 2012 01:44PM
Changes were made to "even out the competition based on population" really the changes were made so the VHSL can make more money. Now all ticket sales from playoff games go to the state not the region.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Turd Burgler
()
Date: December 16, 2012 06:16PM
Haddock from Centreville will be Robinson's new coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
MakesNosense
()
Date: December 16, 2012 06:45PM
Turd Burgler Wrote:
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> Haddock from Centreville will be Robinson's new
> coach.
Why would Haddock do that?
He's got a state championship team brewing in Centreville!
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> Haddock from Centreville will be Robinson's new
> coach.
Why would Haddock do that?
He's got a state championship team brewing in Centreville!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
turd burgler
()
Date: December 16, 2012 06:48PM
When they want you, you would leave too!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WrongBoy
()
Date: December 16, 2012 07:53PM
turd burgler Wrote:
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> When they want you, you would leave too!
LMAO... Haddock ain't leaving Centreville.
LC Bird coach is the next Robinson Coach.
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> When they want you, you would leave too!
LMAO... Haddock ain't leaving Centreville.
LC Bird coach is the next Robinson Coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Not really..
()
Date: December 16, 2012 10:26PM
LC Bird coach is not coming up here. He has been there forever and just won his first title. Why leave. Mark Matthie from centreville will be the new coach. He played for the principal in high school. It's a done deal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Not really...
()
Date: December 16, 2012 10:43PM
MatThie doesn't want that job... He's waiting on another one to open up(which will real soon)...
LC Bird coach is a sure lock. trust me on this one.
LC Bird coach is a sure lock. trust me on this one.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
socoparent
()
Date: December 17, 2012 08:28PM
Apparently south county is already back in the weight room almost every day.. i can see them being a big threat to other teams next year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: December 17, 2012 10:48PM
Every team is in the weight room. What's your point?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
6A North
()
Date: December 18, 2012 12:54PM
Here's my preseason pics for 6A North Top 16 (2013 season)
1)Westfield
2)Centreville
3)Lake Braddock
4)Battlefield
5)Oakton
6)Stonewall Jackson
7)Chantilly
8)Yorktown
9)Hayfield
10)Robinson
11)South County
12)Osbourn
13)West Potomac
14)West Springfield
15)Fairfax
16)Madison
1)Westfield
2)Centreville
3)Lake Braddock
4)Battlefield
5)Oakton
6)Stonewall Jackson
7)Chantilly
8)Yorktown
9)Hayfield
10)Robinson
11)South County
12)Osbourn
13)West Potomac
14)West Springfield
15)Fairfax
16)Madison
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....talent
()
Date: December 18, 2012 09:14PM
Here is my list of playoff teams in order.
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Battlefield
Yorktown
Robinson
Westfield
Hayfield
Madison
South County
West Potomac
Stonewall Jackson
Chantilly
Herndon
Fairfax
Oakton
Osbourn
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Battlefield
Yorktown
Robinson
Westfield
Hayfield
Madison
South County
West Potomac
Stonewall Jackson
Chantilly
Herndon
Fairfax
Oakton
Osbourn
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yall are idiots
()
Date: December 19, 2012 08:08PM
You all are so dumb fairfax is going to cook next year with Nick Scott in the backfield he rushed for over 950 yards on less than 85 carries thats over a first down a carry not to mention he had 300+ recieving yards and he missed a game and a half last season. Nick has been flown down to Alabama by nick saban himself to be on the sidelines of a game and Penn State's head coach came to school to talk 1 on 1 with nick, he has the work ethic of a pro and he has "It" you can't stop him. If Kevin Simonds actually realizes what he has and changes his offensive philosophy like he should do based on his talent get ready to get cooked. Fairfax will also have a threat in Max Kavaljian at fullback and linebacker as well, a returning starter for the past two years he understands the game and makes tremendous plays. I wouldn't be surprised if they reach the region semi finals
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: December 19, 2012 08:15PM
And if they don't again, can we kick you in the nuts?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RUSerious?
()
Date: December 20, 2012 01:46PM
Yall are idiots Wrote:
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> You all are so dumb fairfax is going to cook next
> year with Nick Scott in the backfield he rushed
> for over 950 yards on less than 85 carries thats
> over a first down a carry not to mention he had
> 300+ recieving yards and he missed a game and a
> half last season. Nick has been flown down to
> Alabama by nick saban himself to be on the
> sidelines of a game and Penn State's head coach
> came to school to talk 1 on 1 with nick, he has
> the work ethic of a pro and he has "It" you can't
> stop him. If Kevin Simonds actually realizes what
> he has and changes his offensive philosophy like
> he should do based on his talent get ready to get
> cooked. Fairfax will also have a threat in Max
> Kavaljian at fullback and linebacker as well, a
> returning starter for the past two years he
> understands the game and makes tremendous plays. I
> wouldn't be surprised if they reach the region
> semi finals
Thanks for the update Max! who else could spell that last name? Gotta love the self promotion. If you have 5 Nick Scotts you MIGHT make the playoffs. The problem besides Scott you have nothing! I will say you guys show out here on the underground, if the playoffs were based on posts here you guys would have made the playoffs. With 16 teams going to the playoffs I see Fairfax as a 1 and done next year. MAYBE
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> You all are so dumb fairfax is going to cook next
> year with Nick Scott in the backfield he rushed
> for over 950 yards on less than 85 carries thats
> over a first down a carry not to mention he had
> 300+ recieving yards and he missed a game and a
> half last season. Nick has been flown down to
> Alabama by nick saban himself to be on the
> sidelines of a game and Penn State's head coach
> came to school to talk 1 on 1 with nick, he has
> the work ethic of a pro and he has "It" you can't
> stop him. If Kevin Simonds actually realizes what
> he has and changes his offensive philosophy like
> he should do based on his talent get ready to get
> cooked. Fairfax will also have a threat in Max
> Kavaljian at fullback and linebacker as well, a
> returning starter for the past two years he
> understands the game and makes tremendous plays. I
> wouldn't be surprised if they reach the region
> semi finals
Thanks for the update Max! who else could spell that last name? Gotta love the self promotion. If you have 5 Nick Scotts you MIGHT make the playoffs. The problem besides Scott you have nothing! I will say you guys show out here on the underground, if the playoffs were based on posts here you guys would have made the playoffs. With 16 teams going to the playoffs I see Fairfax as a 1 and done next year. MAYBE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
predictions
()
Date: December 20, 2012 02:29PM
ill give you my top 8. this new 16 team format is too much
1. centreville
2. Battlefield
3. robinson
4. battlefield
5. Chantilly
6. west potomac
7. south county
8. oakton
1. centreville
2. Battlefield
3. robinson
4. battlefield
5. Chantilly
6. west potomac
7. south county
8. oakton
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
should we believe the hype
()
Date: December 20, 2012 02:32PM
chantilly is number one on everybodys board do they have enough to win a state title next year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mistake
()
Date: December 20, 2012 02:33PM
my bad centreviile***
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Not really...
()
Date: December 20, 2012 03:12PM
Looks like 8 is too much...you have Battlefield listed twice in your top 8 predictions. Haha
If Centreville doesn't win states one out of the next two years Haddock should be fired. They are loaded.
If Centreville doesn't win states one out of the next two years Haddock should be fired. They are loaded.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SB Fan2
()
Date: December 20, 2012 08:32PM
Agree that 16 teams might be too much. Your picks look very solid; maybe the one change for me would putting Yorktown in there in place of SoCo. Stewart, the guy who just made All Met, is back and might give SoCo fits in the new conference like he did in the playoff win this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SocoParent
()
Date: December 21, 2012 09:46PM
Coach Shields needs to stop coaching. One of his players who loves football decided to quit because Shields told him hes a worthless piece of shit and that be sucks every practice. He doesnt care about his players, he only wants to win in his name.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really .....
()
Date: December 21, 2012 09:49PM
Shields from westfield? He hasn't been at soco in 2 or 3 years....what are you talking about. I'm sure your kids does fn suck. Deal with it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
YESSSSSSSSS
()
Date: December 21, 2012 09:56PM
YES JON SHIELDS ISNT COACHING NEXT YEAR! WESTFIELD MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THE REGION!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DanWinchester
()
Date: December 21, 2012 10:05PM
My friends son who played for coach shields during the 2011 season said he legit hates everyone and his staff. He curses out coaches and players. Its a shame because inthought he was a very well respected coach around the area
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LOLOL
()
Date: December 21, 2012 10:13PM
Hahahaha Max gave himself a shoutout...damn caught like shit BOOIII
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillebacker
()
Date: December 31, 2012 01:07AM
Really ..... Wrote:
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> Shields from westfield? He hasn't been at soco in
> 2 or 3 years....what are you talking about. I'm
> sure your kids does fn suck. Deal with it.
Shields has been at Westfield for years you have him confused with another Coach. He is well respected and does a great job.
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> Shields from westfield? He hasn't been at soco in
> 2 or 3 years....what are you talking about. I'm
> sure your kids does fn suck. Deal with it.
Shields has been at Westfield for years you have him confused with another Coach. He is well respected and does a great job.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat24
()
Date: January 01, 2013 10:52PM
Who thinks West Potomac can win the northern region with the return of Demornay Pierson -el
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tim walker
()
Date: January 02, 2013 07:05AM
nobody
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EHS
()
Date: January 03, 2013 02:00PM
Edison High School will return to prominence and win the region!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Thetruth
()
Date: January 03, 2013 11:54PM
Anyone hear who the new coach at Robinson is?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: January 04, 2013 07:58AM
EHS Wrote:
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> Edison High School will return to prominence and
> win the region!!!!
Insert Nelson Muntz laugh.
Get a new coach first, then maybe you can start talking about even competing in the National District.
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> Edison High School will return to prominence and
> win the region!!!!
Insert Nelson Muntz laugh.
Get a new coach first, then maybe you can start talking about even competing in the National District.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Joe D
()
Date: January 04, 2013 02:10PM
What football staff is the best in the in northern region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Truts
()
Date: January 04, 2013 02:59PM
Westfield or Centreville are both Head and shoulders above the rest. Give the edge to Centreville because they have less talent then Westfield
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NLR
()
Date: January 04, 2013 03:49PM
Madison they do a hell of a job with very little talent.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: January 04, 2013 11:07PM
Centreville staff is terrible. They have a ton of talent just like Westfield. Haddock sucked everywhere else before he was given a dream job. If he doesn't win two states titles with the kids he has coming back he should be fired. He got out coached ths year in the playoffs. Which s a great transition to the bet staff - Oakton. Oakton has less talent and less kids than everybody else. The fact that they have 4 region titles since 2000 (more than any other D6 northern region team) speaks for itself. They have basically had the same staff since then too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oakton Staff
()
Date: January 06, 2013 10:01PM
The Oakton coaching staff is without a doubt the best in the area. Look at the consistency and improvements that the players make every year. This year they had a couple big time players but the coaching staff worked to put role players around them and come playoff time I think the improvements they made showed. It was a special group of kids who really came together more than any other team I have seen over the last couple of years.
With that being said they have very little talent returning. Bobby Lamb will be that team. Being a contrast from last year, they will be VERY solid up front on defense without many skill position players to fill open spots. Will be a very tough task for the Oakton coaching staff.
With that being said they have very little talent returning. Bobby Lamb will be that team. Being a contrast from last year, they will be VERY solid up front on defense without many skill position players to fill open spots. Will be a very tough task for the Oakton coaching staff.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
C'ville Fan
()
Date: January 07, 2013 07:36AM
Centreville should average 40pts a game if Haddock opens up this offense and stop this tired wing T offense. Too many weapons to deal with!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tilly Fan
()
Date: January 07, 2013 11:47AM
"Bobby Lamb will be that team." Really? Unless Bobby Lam learns how to throw the ball and run the oakton offense as Downer's replacement, he will not be "that team."
Oakton has significant losses going into next year, but the underclassmen who got playing time this past season will be solid: Lam is one of them, but there are others. That said, the skill positions are wide open, and there will be plenty of competition for spots - unless some miraculous tranfers show up.
Oakton will be competitive, but if past history is any guide, they will not come close to duplicating their state run.
Oakton has significant losses going into next year, but the underclassmen who got playing time this past season will be solid: Lam is one of them, but there are others. That said, the skill positions are wide open, and there will be plenty of competition for spots - unless some miraculous tranfers show up.
Oakton will be competitive, but if past history is any guide, they will not come close to duplicating their state run.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KoolntheGang
()
Date: January 07, 2013 01:43PM
Westfield staff is better than anyone-----just ask anyone who has a clue. Its not close. What they get out of their talent is unbelievable. How many on this board had them pegged for 12-1 this year after losing all they did last year. This years QB was a Tight End last year, the RB didnt play last year and 90% of the starters didnt play last year. That's alot of coaching right there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: January 07, 2013 05:19PM
The why are westfield's coaches all leaving because they hate each other? Ask the players. The D staff can't stand the O. Shannon is a terrible OC. It seems everybody hates shields. Too many former head coaches too many cooks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Saywhat
()
Date: January 07, 2013 11:58PM
Really...talent Wrote:
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> The why are westfield's coaches all leaving
> because they hate each other? Ask the players.
> The D staff can't stand the O. Shannon is a
> terrible OC. It seems everybody hates shields. Too
> many former head coaches too many cooks.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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> The why are westfield's coaches all leaving
> because they hate each other? Ask the players.
> The D staff can't stand the O. Shannon is a
> terrible OC. It seems everybody hates shields. Too
> many former head coaches too many cooks.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: January 08, 2013 12:00AM
Really...talent Wrote:
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> The why are westfield's coaches all leaving
> because they hate each other? Ask the players.
> The D staff can't stand the O. Shannon is a
> terrible OC. It seems everybody hates shields. Too
> many former head coaches too many cooks.
"Shannon is a terrible OC." Yeah---that offense looked like it had trouble scoring this year.....see notes above regarding former TE playing QB and RB's who didnt play last year....that Shannon guy must really suck.
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> The why are westfield's coaches all leaving
> because they hate each other? Ask the players.
> The D staff can't stand the O. Shannon is a
> terrible OC. It seems everybody hates shields. Too
> many former head coaches too many cooks.
"Shannon is a terrible OC." Yeah---that offense looked like it had trouble scoring this year.....see notes above regarding former TE playing QB and RB's who didnt play last year....that Shannon guy must really suck.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....talent
()
Date: January 08, 2013 05:09AM
SayWhat- I am just going on what I was told directly from a coach on staff. After the loss in the regional final it all hit the fan. So yes I do know what I am talking about.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ray Taylor
()
Date: January 08, 2013 08:53AM
Who is getting the West Springfield and Robinson jobs?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robinson Parent
()
Date: January 08, 2013 09:34AM
I am also wodering who is going to get the Robinson job. I can't believe its taking this long. Robinson will be way behind the other schools if they don't get the weight room and offseason stuff started. Maybe its all happening behind the sceens and will be announced shortly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde dad
()
Date: January 08, 2013 12:17PM
Why all the hate on the Westfield coaching staff? As a non-WF parent, I think their staff is top notch, and their teams are always well prepared. Granted the size of their school helps their football team as they have a larger talent pool to draw from, but at the end of the day, they are a well-coached team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
In the know...
()
Date: January 08, 2013 01:02PM
Chris Haddock to Robinson
Rob Everette to West Springfield
Brian Day to Centreville
Mark it down.
Rob Everette to West Springfield
Brian Day to Centreville
Mark it down.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...
()
Date: January 08, 2013 05:12PM
I would believe Everett to west spring. No chance or haddock or day. Day is happy at Herndon. Haddock has a state title in his lap at c'ville.
The Robinson job is taking so long because the principal is retiring. New principal at Robinson will be banbury from Oakton.
The Robinson job is taking so long because the principal is retiring. New principal at Robinson will be banbury from Oakton.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RGIV
()
Date: January 08, 2013 06:00PM
In the know... Wrote:
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> Chris Haddock to Robinson
> Rob Everette to West Springfield
> Brian Day to Centreville
>
> Mark it down.
If you know....you should be able to spell Rob's name correctly :)
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> Chris Haddock to Robinson
> Rob Everette to West Springfield
> Brian Day to Centreville
>
> Mark it down.
If you know....you should be able to spell Rob's name correctly :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
love them idiots
()
Date: January 08, 2013 06:01PM
Really... Wrote:
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> The Robinson job is taking so long because the
> principal is retiring. New principal at Robinson
> will be banbury from Oakton.
Where do you even get this shit. Dr. Banbury isn't going anywhere. That guy loves Oakton and his son is going there next year. Please remove head from ass now. You think that they are going to fire someone and then leave a position open for someone else to fill it??? You should write for the Enquirer.
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> The Robinson job is taking so long because the
> principal is retiring. New principal at Robinson
> will be banbury from Oakton.
Where do you even get this shit. Dr. Banbury isn't going anywhere. That guy loves Oakton and his son is going there next year. Please remove head from ass now. You think that they are going to fire someone and then leave a position open for someone else to fill it??? You should write for the Enquirer.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillebacker
()
Date: January 10, 2013 08:58AM
Really....talent Wrote:
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> SayWhat- I am just going on what I was told
> directly from a coach on staff. After the loss in
> the regional final it all hit the fan. So yes I do
> know what I am talking about.
So who is leaving? If someone told you, this is an easy way to let us all know anonymously. I am more of the belief that you don't know shit. Westfield staff is very good and not going anywhere. I am sure there were some tough discussions after their second straight regional final loss. I don't see them being that dominate again for a while.
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> SayWhat- I am just going on what I was told
> directly from a coach on staff. After the loss in
> the regional final it all hit the fan. So yes I do
> know what I am talking about.
So who is leaving? If someone told you, this is an easy way to let us all know anonymously. I am more of the belief that you don't know shit. Westfield staff is very good and not going anywhere. I am sure there were some tough discussions after their second straight regional final loss. I don't see them being that dominate again for a while.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
coachingchanges
()
Date: January 10, 2013 10:54AM
No chance Haddock leaves Cville even after everything that has gone down between him and the admin this year. I would say Mat Shannon (Westfield OC) to Robinson. I think he's inching for another head job after his Fairfax disaster. West Springfield is a mess and no chance Brian Daye back to Cville. They would never allow that. The Everette guy will stay right where hes at if hes smart. I think the D coordinator at Cville (nef?) has put in for the WS job.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robinson Insider
()
Date: January 10, 2013 11:08AM
Robinson is still in the weight room during the offseason. Assistants who work at the school are running their offseason conditioning programs right now.
The guy they want is Stan Sexton. Stan was let go from Phoebus a few months ago, but had unprecedented success with that team. The boosters want someone big. That is the reason this is taking so long. Stan has some reluctancies on moving his family, but is very interested in Robinson's history. They are looking outside the region for their next coach. The only guy they would hire from inside the region would be Haddock over at Centreville, but he's not leaving.
The guy they want is Stan Sexton. Stan was let go from Phoebus a few months ago, but had unprecedented success with that team. The boosters want someone big. That is the reason this is taking so long. Stan has some reluctancies on moving his family, but is very interested in Robinson's history. They are looking outside the region for their next coach. The only guy they would hire from inside the region would be Haddock over at Centreville, but he's not leaving.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: January 10, 2013 12:02PM
Robinson Insider Wrote:
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> Robinson is still in the weight room during the
> offseason. Assistants who work at the school are
> running their offseason conditioning programs
> right now.
>
> The guy they want is Stan Sexton. Stan was let go
> from Phoebus a few months ago, but had
> unprecedented success with that team. The
> boosters want someone big. That is the reason
> this is taking so long. Stan has some
> reluctancies on moving his family, but is very
> interested in Robinson's history. They are
> looking outside the region for their next coach.
> The only guy they would hire from inside the
> region would be Haddock over at Centreville, but
> he's not leaving.
Thank you for putting correct info. out there. Rumorville is getting annoying.
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> Robinson is still in the weight room during the
> offseason. Assistants who work at the school are
> running their offseason conditioning programs
> right now.
>
> The guy they want is Stan Sexton. Stan was let go
> from Phoebus a few months ago, but had
> unprecedented success with that team. The
> boosters want someone big. That is the reason
> this is taking so long. Stan has some
> reluctancies on moving his family, but is very
> interested in Robinson's history. They are
> looking outside the region for their next coach.
> The only guy they would hire from inside the
> region would be Haddock over at Centreville, but
> he's not leaving.
Thank you for putting correct info. out there. Rumorville is getting annoying.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
haha sweet
()
Date: January 10, 2013 01:32PM
Sexton is a joke.
Stan ran the phoebus program like it was youth league. But a youth league with 20 Div. I players.
Having first hand accounts of his practices being just loose, unorganized, poorly coached freaks of nature. Robinson is going to go backwards if that is where they truly go.
All Pro formation/bit of qb option and a crazy simple defense to just let their kids out play you.
Phoebus has 1200 kids BUT kids can choose down there to go to Phoebus for their CULINARY class verses go to Bethel, Hapton...etc so while Pheobus has been on a crazy teare of state championships they were getting freaks hand over fist!
Sexton wasn't even the architect, it was Bill Dee who retired to college ball a few years back. Sexton was just hanging on to the tradition and it slowly has unraveled.
If a coach was to come from the South only David Bedwell would make any sense as he is a FCPS graduate and former player of the Legend Tom Verbanic. Though if you want a Verbanic deciple go with Brian Day who is doing a hell of a job with Herndon where no one else would try.
Robinson has one clear choice, Marc Matthie but I have a feeling they are leaning away from him.
Matthie is an ex Meyer player, ex college GA, ex college coach, ex DC under Haddock and is responsible for them making the State final. Centreville has fallen off since his stepping back and he is very ready for prime time.
I am not sure why Mukai would go hunting washed up sloppy beach coaching so I tend to disregard that as total rumor.
Stan ran the phoebus program like it was youth league. But a youth league with 20 Div. I players.
Having first hand accounts of his practices being just loose, unorganized, poorly coached freaks of nature. Robinson is going to go backwards if that is where they truly go.
All Pro formation/bit of qb option and a crazy simple defense to just let their kids out play you.
Phoebus has 1200 kids BUT kids can choose down there to go to Phoebus for their CULINARY class verses go to Bethel, Hapton...etc so while Pheobus has been on a crazy teare of state championships they were getting freaks hand over fist!
Sexton wasn't even the architect, it was Bill Dee who retired to college ball a few years back. Sexton was just hanging on to the tradition and it slowly has unraveled.
If a coach was to come from the South only David Bedwell would make any sense as he is a FCPS graduate and former player of the Legend Tom Verbanic. Though if you want a Verbanic deciple go with Brian Day who is doing a hell of a job with Herndon where no one else would try.
Robinson has one clear choice, Marc Matthie but I have a feeling they are leaning away from him.
Matthie is an ex Meyer player, ex college GA, ex college coach, ex DC under Haddock and is responsible for them making the State final. Centreville has fallen off since his stepping back and he is very ready for prime time.
I am not sure why Mukai would go hunting washed up sloppy beach coaching so I tend to disregard that as total rumor.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
St. John
()
Date: January 11, 2013 09:16AM
Matt Shannon the offensive coordinator has been let go by Kyle Simmons per Pete Bendorf.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
St. John
()
Date: January 11, 2013 09:17AM
From westfield
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
westfield spread?
()
Date: January 11, 2013 12:09PM
don't tell me Westfield bought the Renner Playbook like everyone else has??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram_For_Life
()
Date: January 11, 2013 08:34PM
Marc Matthie (Currently Defensive Coordinator for Centreville) would be the PERFECT fit at Robinson. But obviously the fact that he is African American plays a part as to why they are reluctant to sign him. I mean there has never been a Black head coach in the history of the Concorde District. However I have heard many rumors of the Rams pursuing him.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram_For_Life
()
Date: January 11, 2013 08:39PM
And we all know what happened when the Rams started their first black QB since like 1974. Avyn Johnson Threw for a whopping 7 yards and rushed for -12 in the first game of the 2011-2012 season against the one and only Stone Bridge Bulldogs. Not to mention the Rams didn't get into the Red zone once and Only crossed the 50 yard line one time all game. Go figure. they only gave Joe Wilson the ball once! for a 15 yard gain. Silly Coach Taylor..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde_District_Fan
()
Date: January 11, 2013 08:46PM
Concorde dad Wrote:
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> Why all the hate on the Westfield coaching staff?
> As a non-WF parent, I think their staff is top
> notch, and their teams are always well prepared.
> Granted the size of their school helps their
> football team as they have a larger talent pool to
> draw from, but at the end of the day, they are a
> well-coached team.
HAHA. You think Westfield has a large pool to draw from. Robinson has over 4,000+ Students. yet they still need Transfers like Joe Wilson from Annandale to help them out.
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> Why all the hate on the Westfield coaching staff?
> As a non-WF parent, I think their staff is top
> notch, and their teams are always well prepared.
> Granted the size of their school helps their
> football team as they have a larger talent pool to
> draw from, but at the end of the day, they are a
> well-coached team.
HAHA. You think Westfield has a large pool to draw from. Robinson has over 4,000+ Students. yet they still need Transfers like Joe Wilson from Annandale to help them out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: January 11, 2013 08:54PM
Concorde_District_Fan Wrote:
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> Concorde dad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why all the hate on the Westfield coaching
> staff?
> > As a non-WF parent, I think their staff is top
> > notch, and their teams are always well prepared.
>
> > Granted the size of their school helps their
> > football team as they have a larger talent pool
> to
> > draw from, but at the end of the day, they are
> a
> > well-coached team.
>
> HAHA. You think Westfield has a large pool to draw
> from. Robinson has over 4,000+ Students. yet they
> still need Transfers like Joe Wilson from
> Annandale to help them out.
Not sure where you get your numbers from, Robinson only has 2,500+ in their HS. Westfield is just above that. These numbers do not include the special needs or ESOL students. Either way, with being one of the largest schools in the state, there should be no problem getting quality athletes in the school.
ROBINSON
http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:6187930467410665::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:390
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> Concorde dad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why all the hate on the Westfield coaching
> staff?
> > As a non-WF parent, I think their staff is top
> > notch, and their teams are always well prepared.
>
> > Granted the size of their school helps their
> > football team as they have a larger talent pool
> to
> > draw from, but at the end of the day, they are
> a
> > well-coached team.
>
> HAHA. You think Westfield has a large pool to draw
> from. Robinson has over 4,000+ Students. yet they
> still need Transfers like Joe Wilson from
> Annandale to help them out.
Not sure where you get your numbers from, Robinson only has 2,500+ in their HS. Westfield is just above that. These numbers do not include the special needs or ESOL students. Either way, with being one of the largest schools in the state, there should be no problem getting quality athletes in the school.
ROBINSON
http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:6187930467410665::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:390
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What You Know About That?
()
Date: January 11, 2013 09:06PM
Robinson has ALOT of returning starters on Defense next season. 7 to be exact. A key player not returning will be star safety Turner Peterson but they should be fine there because John Wilson already had to take his spot a couple times this season and played exceptionally well. Another key player not returning is Defensive Tackle, Jake Shaffer. However Robinson has PLENTY of HUGE kids and I'm SURE they can find someone to fill that spot. The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that they lost BOTH starting Cornerbacks Backs. The two kids taking those spots, DeMarcus Byrdsong and Marcus Denham aren't exactly as big as you would like your starting varsity corners to be. They both started on JV last year. Who know's? Maybe they AMAZINGLY quick. But we'll see I guess. Other than that they should be perfectly fine on the defensive side of the ball. They also have two Sophomore Line Backers, Nick Roth and Eric Siegel, that got PLENTY of Varsity playing time this year. So they already have the experience part down. This is a solid group of kids.
Notable Defensive Starters that are returning include: Jake Pinkston (DT)
Avyn Johnson (LB) Stephen Diggs (SS) and Darius Grady (DE/OLB)
We've also seen Joe Wilson get some time at Linebacker! He didn't play defense very often this year, but when he did, he played exceptionally well.
Notable Defensive Starters that are returning include: Jake Pinkston (DT)
Avyn Johnson (LB) Stephen Diggs (SS) and Darius Grady (DE/OLB)
We've also seen Joe Wilson get some time at Linebacker! He didn't play defense very often this year, but when he did, he played exceptionally well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde_District_Fan
()
Date: January 11, 2013 09:09PM
Oh really Wrote:
>
>
> Not sure where you get your numbers from, Robinson
> only has 2,500+ in their HS. Westfield is just
> above that. These numbers do not include the
> special needs or ESOL students. Either way, with
> being one of the largest schools in the state,
> there should be no problem getting quality
> athletes in the school.
>
> ROBINSON
> http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13
> :6187930467410665::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:390
My bad. The 4000+ is INCLUDING the Middle School. Haha I forgot about them.
>
>
> Not sure where you get your numbers from, Robinson
> only has 2,500+ in their HS. Westfield is just
> above that. These numbers do not include the
> special needs or ESOL students. Either way, with
> being one of the largest schools in the state,
> there should be no problem getting quality
> athletes in the school.
>
> ROBINSON
> http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13
> :6187930467410665::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:390
My bad. The 4000+ is INCLUDING the Middle School. Haha I forgot about them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Szyr
()
Date: January 12, 2013 04:03PM
Hows westfield looking offensively and defensivly for next year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HornetsPride
()
Date: January 12, 2013 04:43PM
Look out for Herndon this year. They have alot starters coming back and Brian Day is gonna get them into shape. Theyre gonna win the concorde and make it to states. Go Hornets!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hornets player
()
Date: January 12, 2013 09:56PM
Coach Day makes us do a program with Max Muscle it's bs and should be looked into. My coach shouldn't force anything on me and my teammates.
Also some are thinking about not coming back out next season because we got beat up so bad. Playing two games a week is just too much.
Also some are thinking about not coming back out next season because we got beat up so bad. Playing two games a week is just too much.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
St. John
()
Date: January 13, 2013 02:25AM
Day is resigning at Hermdon to take the OC job at Westfield. He is announcing it on the 25th.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldoggy
()
Date: January 13, 2013 10:53AM
Szyr Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hows westfield looking offensively and defensivly
> for next year?
Westfield has many key returning skill players (WR, RB, TE, DB/LB). They will be good as always. They have a big question mark at QB, someone is going to have to step into those big shoes. They always seems to figure it out, just like they did this year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hows westfield looking offensively and defensivly
> for next year?
Westfield has many key returning skill players (WR, RB, TE, DB/LB). They will be good as always. They have a big question mark at QB, someone is going to have to step into those big shoes. They always seems to figure it out, just like they did this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Northern Va
()
Date: January 14, 2013 01:16PM
Any word on the coaching vacancies?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cvillebacker
()
Date: January 14, 2013 04:48PM
Bulldoggy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Szyr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hows westfield looking offensively and
> defensivly
> > for next year?
>
>
> Westfield has many key returning skill players
> (WR, RB, TE, DB/LB). They will be good as always.
> They have a big question mark at QB, someone is
> going to have to step into those big shoes. They
> always seems to figure it out, just like they did
> this year.
Westfield is done. They are no where close to the level of talent they had the last 2 years, shit last 10 years. They had the talent and it was all set up for them to go to States, BUT they blew it against Oakton. That one loss will sting for a long time. They will not see the final 8 (old Regional Championships)for at least 2 more years.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Szyr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hows westfield looking offensively and
> defensivly
> > for next year?
>
>
> Westfield has many key returning skill players
> (WR, RB, TE, DB/LB). They will be good as always.
> They have a big question mark at QB, someone is
> going to have to step into those big shoes. They
> always seems to figure it out, just like they did
> this year.
Westfield is done. They are no where close to the level of talent they had the last 2 years, shit last 10 years. They had the talent and it was all set up for them to go to States, BUT they blew it against Oakton. That one loss will sting for a long time. They will not see the final 8 (old Regional Championships)for at least 2 more years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldoggy
()
Date: January 15, 2013 07:59PM
cvillebacker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldoggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Szyr Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hows westfield looking offensively and
> > defensivly
> > > for next year?
> >
> >
> > Westfield has many key returning skill players
> > (WR, RB, TE, DB/LB). They will be good as
> always.
> > They have a big question mark at QB, someone
> is
> > going to have to step into those big shoes.
> They
> > always seems to figure it out, just like they
> did
> > this year.
>
>
> Westfield is done. They are no where close to the
> level of talent they had the last 2 years, shit
> last 10 years. They had the talent and it was all
> set up for them to go to States, BUT they blew it
> against Oakton. That one loss will sting for a
> long time. They will not see the final 8 (old
> Regional Championships)for at least 2 more years.
We'll see....... You had them at 12-1 this year right? Just like everyone else?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldoggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Szyr Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hows westfield looking offensively and
> > defensivly
> > > for next year?
> >
> >
> > Westfield has many key returning skill players
> > (WR, RB, TE, DB/LB). They will be good as
> always.
> > They have a big question mark at QB, someone
> is
> > going to have to step into those big shoes.
> They
> > always seems to figure it out, just like they
> did
> > this year.
>
>
> Westfield is done. They are no where close to the
> level of talent they had the last 2 years, shit
> last 10 years. They had the talent and it was all
> set up for them to go to States, BUT they blew it
> against Oakton. That one loss will sting for a
> long time. They will not see the final 8 (old
> Regional Championships)for at least 2 more years.
We'll see....... You had them at 12-1 this year right? Just like everyone else?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: January 15, 2013 08:02PM
So westfield is the best staff huh???
Shannon the OC - fired; leaving westfield
Shields the DC - quit; not coaching
Sounds like a great group to me.
Shannon the OC - fired; leaving westfield
Shields the DC - quit; not coaching
Sounds like a great group to me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
St. John
()
Date: January 16, 2013 09:26AM
Shields isn't going anywhere...
Shannon was at best an okay coach.. that was a good move by Simmons. He was Tom V. boy and wanted it to go down the way it did after he left. Simmons gave him a couple years and lost 2 regional championships to so so play calling. He was just plain lazy.
Interesting to see who they will bring in as their new OC
Shannon was at best an okay coach.. that was a good move by Simmons. He was Tom V. boy and wanted it to go down the way it did after he left. Simmons gave him a couple years and lost 2 regional championships to so so play calling. He was just plain lazy.
Interesting to see who they will bring in as their new OC
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
why
()
Date: January 16, 2013 12:44PM
I find it highly disturbing that disgruntled parents/fans/etc use this site to assume, bash and spread ridiculous information. Regardless of true or not, why?! Does it make you feel better that your child is probably not a stellar athlete so it's always the coaches fault? Bashing them on this site does not give your child playing time.
If parents cared more to support, I guarentee coaches would be willing to put more time and effort into the programs. The time they have left that is. After working a full day and spending hours upon hours a day with your children.
A big thank you to all of the coaches who take time away from their families to coach your children (even with their nagging parents on the side).
To all the coaches mentioned on this site....GOD BLESS YOU for dealing with these parents!
If parents cared more to support, I guarentee coaches would be willing to put more time and effort into the programs. The time they have left that is. After working a full day and spending hours upon hours a day with your children.
A big thank you to all of the coaches who take time away from their families to coach your children (even with their nagging parents on the side).
To all the coaches mentioned on this site....GOD BLESS YOU for dealing with these parents!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What?
()
Date: January 16, 2013 05:42PM
St. John Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shields isn't going anywhere...
>
> Shannon was at best an okay coach.. that was a
> good move by Simmons. He was Tom V. boy and wanted
> it to go down the way it did after he left.
> Simmons gave him a couple years and lost 2
> regional championships to so so play calling. He
> was just plain lazy.
>
> Interesting to see who they will bring in as their
> new OC
Do you really think Westfield lost the Regional playoff due to play calling on offense? Really? Were you there? First of all the wind had a major impact on play calling for both teams with regards to the pass game. Westfield did not play its best, but to put it on play calling is ridiculous. How about the play calling at some of the other games....Lake Braddock (didnt have a clue on defense and Westfield made them look very bad), Oakton Game 1, etc., both Chantilly games....etc, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shields isn't going anywhere...
>
> Shannon was at best an okay coach.. that was a
> good move by Simmons. He was Tom V. boy and wanted
> it to go down the way it did after he left.
> Simmons gave him a couple years and lost 2
> regional championships to so so play calling. He
> was just plain lazy.
>
> Interesting to see who they will bring in as their
> new OC
Do you really think Westfield lost the Regional playoff due to play calling on offense? Really? Were you there? First of all the wind had a major impact on play calling for both teams with regards to the pass game. Westfield did not play its best, but to put it on play calling is ridiculous. How about the play calling at some of the other games....Lake Braddock (didnt have a clue on defense and Westfield made them look very bad), Oakton Game 1, etc., both Chantilly games....etc, etc.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Datruth
()
Date: January 18, 2013 12:16PM
What? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> St. John Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shields isn't going anywhere...
> >
> > Shannon was at best an okay coach.. that was a
> > good move by Simmons. He was Tom V. boy and
> wanted
> > it to go down the way it did after he left.
> > Simmons gave him a couple years and lost 2
> > regional championships to so so play calling.
> He
> > was just plain lazy.
> >
> > Interesting to see who they will bring in as
> their
> > new OC
>
>
> Do you really think Westfield lost the Regional
> playoff due to play calling on offense? Really?
> Were you there? First of all the wind had a
> major impact on play calling for both teams with
> regards to the pass game. Westfield did not play
> its best, but to put it on play calling is
> ridiculous. How about the play calling at some of
> the other games....Lake Braddock (didnt have a
> clue on defense and Westfield made them look very
> bad), Oakton Game 1, etc., both Chantilly
> games....etc, etc.
Hard to tell why Westfield lost that game. I think they thought it was going to be a cake walk after Oakton escaped Centreville. Westfield was keyed for a rematch with Centreville and when it turned out to be Oakton they looked past them. Oakton played with nothing to lose, look at when they faked the punt deep in their own territory and picked up a key first down.
Westfield wins that game 9 out of 10 times; But that's why you play the game.
-------------------------------------------------------
> St. John Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shields isn't going anywhere...
> >
> > Shannon was at best an okay coach.. that was a
> > good move by Simmons. He was Tom V. boy and
> wanted
> > it to go down the way it did after he left.
> > Simmons gave him a couple years and lost 2
> > regional championships to so so play calling.
> He
> > was just plain lazy.
> >
> > Interesting to see who they will bring in as
> their
> > new OC
>
>
> Do you really think Westfield lost the Regional
> playoff due to play calling on offense? Really?
> Were you there? First of all the wind had a
> major impact on play calling for both teams with
> regards to the pass game. Westfield did not play
> its best, but to put it on play calling is
> ridiculous. How about the play calling at some of
> the other games....Lake Braddock (didnt have a
> clue on defense and Westfield made them look very
> bad), Oakton Game 1, etc., both Chantilly
> games....etc, etc.
Hard to tell why Westfield lost that game. I think they thought it was going to be a cake walk after Oakton escaped Centreville. Westfield was keyed for a rematch with Centreville and when it turned out to be Oakton they looked past them. Oakton played with nothing to lose, look at when they faked the punt deep in their own territory and picked up a key first down.
Westfield wins that game 9 out of 10 times; But that's why you play the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Applause
()
Date: January 18, 2013 01:10PM
This is a great post! Even when a coach might not be technically the best, they devote countless hours, way beyond just practices and games. High school coaches are probably one of the best bargains parents can get. Very few parents could or would do what the job, except say for calling some plays from the stands. If a coach is abusive or unethical that's one thing but the for the most part they provide a great service.
why Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it highly disturbing that disgruntled
> parents/fans/etc use this site to assume, bash and
> spread ridiculous information. Regardless of true
> or not, why?! Does it make you feel better that
> your child is probably not a stellar athlete so
> it's always the coaches fault? Bashing them on
> this site does not give your child playing time.
>
> If parents cared more to support, I guarentee
> coaches would be willing to put more time and
> effort into the programs. The time they have left
> that is. After working a full day and spending
> hours upon hours a day with your children.
>
> A big thank you to all of the coaches who take
> time away from their families to coach your
> children (even with their nagging parents on the
> side).
>
> To all the coaches mentioned on this site....GOD
> BLESS YOU for dealing with these parents!
why Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it highly disturbing that disgruntled
> parents/fans/etc use this site to assume, bash and
> spread ridiculous information. Regardless of true
> or not, why?! Does it make you feel better that
> your child is probably not a stellar athlete so
> it's always the coaches fault? Bashing them on
> this site does not give your child playing time.
>
> If parents cared more to support, I guarentee
> coaches would be willing to put more time and
> effort into the programs. The time they have left
> that is. After working a full day and spending
> hours upon hours a day with your children.
>
> A big thank you to all of the coaches who take
> time away from their families to coach your
> children (even with their nagging parents on the
> side).
>
> To all the coaches mentioned on this site....GOD
> BLESS YOU for dealing with these parents!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: January 18, 2013 02:57PM
I was at the game and if you watched Oakton, that game or any previous, the punt was always a run, pass, kick option. So I wouldn't call that a fake. I don't think westfield was better and looked past them either. Oakton was just better. Westfield would have lost to centreville too. It was and is just a down time in the Concorde district.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldogggy
()
Date: January 18, 2013 04:41PM
Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton. Westfield was good, but not good enough to look past anyone despite their record. They are not coached that way either. It was a year when their were alot of good team and anyone could beat anyone (other than Herndon) on any given Friday night. Westfield managed to get through the roulette wheel during the season with some impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed them when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17 year old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when people on this board said Westfield "choked" "etc......nobody close to that team thought they could go 12-1 and they should feel good about the season they had overall.
Time to move on.....
Time to move on.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DaTruth
()
Date: January 19, 2013 12:31AM
Bulldogggy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton.
> Westfield was good, but not good enough to look
> past anyone despite their record. They are not
> coached that way either. It was a year when their
> were alot of good team and anyone could beat
> anyone (other than Herndon) on any given Friday
> night. Westfield managed to get through the
> roulette wheel during the season with some
> impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed them
> when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17 year
> old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when people
> on this board said Westfield "choked"
> "etc......nobody close to that team thought they
> could go 12-1 and they should feel good about the
> season they had overall.
>
> Time to move on.....
I am sure you would like to forget and move on... UNFORTUNATELY that's not gonna happen. We will kick this around for a lot longer, until the new season starts. Westfield may not be coached that way, but as you put it, these are 16 and 17 year kids who when they see a team who they beat by 3 Touchdowns in the regular season upset a team they were expecting to play. I think they let up and allowed a less talented team to beat them. Oakton had no business winning that game, it was Westfields to take and for some reason they let up. I will leave it up to you all to tell me why. I think they got caught in a trap game and got trapped.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton.
> Westfield was good, but not good enough to look
> past anyone despite their record. They are not
> coached that way either. It was a year when their
> were alot of good team and anyone could beat
> anyone (other than Herndon) on any given Friday
> night. Westfield managed to get through the
> roulette wheel during the season with some
> impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed them
> when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17 year
> old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when people
> on this board said Westfield "choked"
> "etc......nobody close to that team thought they
> could go 12-1 and they should feel good about the
> season they had overall.
>
> Time to move on.....
I am sure you would like to forget and move on... UNFORTUNATELY that's not gonna happen. We will kick this around for a lot longer, until the new season starts. Westfield may not be coached that way, but as you put it, these are 16 and 17 year kids who when they see a team who they beat by 3 Touchdowns in the regular season upset a team they were expecting to play. I think they let up and allowed a less talented team to beat them. Oakton had no business winning that game, it was Westfields to take and for some reason they let up. I will leave it up to you all to tell me why. I think they got caught in a trap game and got trapped.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....
()
Date: January 19, 2013 12:34AM
So the other games Oakton won in the playoffs were trap games too? Oakton shouldn't have won those games either? Oakton out gained westfield in the first game. They gave up 3 long scores on mistakes. It was a lot closer than the score, and westfield will admit that. Again- a weaker district led to parody.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Manti Te'o
()
Date: January 19, 2013 09:51AM
Can we post about something else besides Westfield and Oakton? How about National District and Liberty District Teams?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RGIV
()
Date: January 19, 2013 12:32PM
Really.... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So the other games Oakton won in the playoffs were
> trap games too? Oakton shouldn't have won those
> games either? Oakton out gained westfield in the
> first game. They gave up 3 long scores on
> mistakes. It was a lot closer than the score, and
> westfield will admit that. Again- a weaker
> district led to parody.
Parody?
It's parity
-------------------------------------------------------
> So the other games Oakton won in the playoffs were
> trap games too? Oakton shouldn't have won those
> games either? Oakton out gained westfield in the
> first game. They gave up 3 long scores on
> mistakes. It was a lot closer than the score, and
> westfield will admit that. Again- a weaker
> district led to parody.
Parody?
It's parity
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldoggy
()
Date: January 19, 2013 12:36PM
DaTruth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldogggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton.
> > Westfield was good, but not good enough to look
> > past anyone despite their record. They are
> not
> > coached that way either. It was a year when
> their
> > were alot of good team and anyone could beat
> > anyone (other than Herndon) on any given Friday
> > night. Westfield managed to get through the
> > roulette wheel during the season with some
> > impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed them
> > when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17 year
> > old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when
> people
> > on this board said Westfield "choked"
> > "etc......nobody close to that team thought
> they
> > could go 12-1 and they should feel good about
> the
> > season they had overall.
> >
> > Time to move on.....
>
>
> I am sure you would like to forget and move on...
> UNFORTUNATELY that's not gonna happen. We will
> kick this around for a lot longer, until the new
> season starts. Westfield may not be coached that
> way, but as you put it, these are 16 and 17 year
> kids who when they see a team who they beat by 3
> Touchdowns in the regular season upset a team they
> were expecting to play. I think they let up and
> allowed a less talented team to beat them. Oakton
> had no business winning that game, it was
> Westfields to take and for some reason they let
> up. I will leave it up to you all to tell me why.
> I think they got caught in a trap game and got
> trapped.
Ok, I guess we won't move on. I am not sure what else there is to say. But you can keep posting.
Maybe you can tell me why Oakton, who must have been reading their own press about how good they were in the playoffs got blown off their homefield against LC Byrd. They must have got trapped. Westfield played Byrd even up in the pre-season, Oakton wasn't close.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldogggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton.
> > Westfield was good, but not good enough to look
> > past anyone despite their record. They are
> not
> > coached that way either. It was a year when
> their
> > were alot of good team and anyone could beat
> > anyone (other than Herndon) on any given Friday
> > night. Westfield managed to get through the
> > roulette wheel during the season with some
> > impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed them
> > when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17 year
> > old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when
> people
> > on this board said Westfield "choked"
> > "etc......nobody close to that team thought
> they
> > could go 12-1 and they should feel good about
> the
> > season they had overall.
> >
> > Time to move on.....
>
>
> I am sure you would like to forget and move on...
> UNFORTUNATELY that's not gonna happen. We will
> kick this around for a lot longer, until the new
> season starts. Westfield may not be coached that
> way, but as you put it, these are 16 and 17 year
> kids who when they see a team who they beat by 3
> Touchdowns in the regular season upset a team they
> were expecting to play. I think they let up and
> allowed a less talented team to beat them. Oakton
> had no business winning that game, it was
> Westfields to take and for some reason they let
> up. I will leave it up to you all to tell me why.
> I think they got caught in a trap game and got
> trapped.
Ok, I guess we won't move on. I am not sure what else there is to say. But you can keep posting.
Maybe you can tell me why Oakton, who must have been reading their own press about how good they were in the playoffs got blown off their homefield against LC Byrd. They must have got trapped. Westfield played Byrd even up in the pre-season, Oakton wasn't close.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DaTruth
()
Date: January 19, 2013 05:40PM
Bulldoggy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> DaTruth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldogggy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton.
> > > Westfield was good, but not good enough to
> look
> > > past anyone despite their record. They are
> > not
> > > coached that way either. It was a year when
> > their
> > > were alot of good team and anyone could beat
> > > anyone (other than Herndon) on any given
> Friday
> > > night. Westfield managed to get through the
> > > roulette wheel during the season with some
> > > impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed
> them
> > > when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17
> year
> > > old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when
> > people
> > > on this board said Westfield "choked"
> > > "etc......nobody close to that team thought
> > they
> > > could go 12-1 and they should feel good about
> > the
> > > season they had overall.
> > >
> > > Time to move on.....
> >
> >
> > I am sure you would like to forget and move
> on...
> > UNFORTUNATELY that's not gonna happen. We will
> > kick this around for a lot longer, until the
> new
> > season starts. Westfield may not be coached
> that
> > way, but as you put it, these are 16 and 17
> year
> > kids who when they see a team who they beat by
> 3
> > Touchdowns in the regular season upset a team
> they
> > were expecting to play. I think they let up and
> > allowed a less talented team to beat them.
> Oakton
> > had no business winning that game, it was
> > Westfields to take and for some reason they let
> > up. I will leave it up to you all to tell me
> why.
> > I think they got caught in a trap game and got
> > trapped.
>
>
> Ok, I guess we won't move on. I am not sure what
> else there is to say. But you can keep posting.
>
> Maybe you can tell me why Oakton, who must have
> been reading their own press about how good they
> were in the playoffs got blown off their homefield
> against LC Byrd. They must have got trapped.
> Westfield played Byrd even up in the pre-season,
> Oakton wasn't close.
Do you really want to go there? You want to mention the next game! The one Westfield couldn't get to? For the second year in a row. You are a gluton for punishment. Westfield will be down for years to come. Centreville is the team to beat. Oakton is also done. I congratulate Oakton on winning the region last year. But if you want to move forward it is all Centreville.
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> DaTruth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldogggy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nobody from Westfield looked past Oakton.
> > > Westfield was good, but not good enough to
> look
> > > past anyone despite their record. They are
> > not
> > > coached that way either. It was a year when
> > their
> > > were alot of good team and anyone could beat
> > > anyone (other than Herndon) on any given
> Friday
> > > night. Westfield managed to get through the
> > > roulette wheel during the season with some
> > > impressive victories, but Oakton outplayed
> them
> > > when it counted most. THese are 16 and 17
> year
> > > old kids, shit happens. I just laugh when
> > people
> > > on this board said Westfield "choked"
> > > "etc......nobody close to that team thought
> > they
> > > could go 12-1 and they should feel good about
> > the
> > > season they had overall.
> > >
> > > Time to move on.....
> >
> >
> > I am sure you would like to forget and move
> on...
> > UNFORTUNATELY that's not gonna happen. We will
> > kick this around for a lot longer, until the
> new
> > season starts. Westfield may not be coached
> that
> > way, but as you put it, these are 16 and 17
> year
> > kids who when they see a team who they beat by
> 3
> > Touchdowns in the regular season upset a team
> they
> > were expecting to play. I think they let up and
> > allowed a less talented team to beat them.
> Oakton
> > had no business winning that game, it was
> > Westfields to take and for some reason they let
> > up. I will leave it up to you all to tell me
> why.
> > I think they got caught in a trap game and got
> > trapped.
>
>
> Ok, I guess we won't move on. I am not sure what
> else there is to say. But you can keep posting.
>
> Maybe you can tell me why Oakton, who must have
> been reading their own press about how good they
> were in the playoffs got blown off their homefield
> against LC Byrd. They must have got trapped.
> Westfield played Byrd even up in the pre-season,
> Oakton wasn't close.
Do you really want to go there? You want to mention the next game! The one Westfield couldn't get to? For the second year in a row. You are a gluton for punishment. Westfield will be down for years to come. Centreville is the team to beat. Oakton is also done. I congratulate Oakton on winning the region last year. But if you want to move forward it is all Centreville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Questions
()
Date: January 21, 2013 03:22PM
The Coaching Carousel has yet to end...
South county offensive coordinator
Westfield offensive coordinator
Robinson head coach
Edison defensive coordinator
West springfield head coach
Centreville defensive staff
Does anyone have a clue who's in the hunt for any of these jobs?
South county offensive coordinator
Westfield offensive coordinator
Robinson head coach
Edison defensive coordinator
West springfield head coach
Centreville defensive staff
Does anyone have a clue who's in the hunt for any of these jobs?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CHSInsider
()
Date: January 21, 2013 04:52PM
I've heard that a varsity rugby player from Chantilly is switching from marching band to football this year to be a defensive end. Goes by the name of Carter Webb, apparantly he is going to be a dominant force for the Chantilly football team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
jefferson fan
()
Date: January 22, 2013 12:25AM
Ken Kinkaid down at Thomas Jefferson is a great coach. When he came to tj 3 years ago they were 0-10 with no all district players, and one with honorable mention. Last year they only brought back 4 defensive starters and still had one of the best defenses in the liberty district. I know theyre not playing against the best teams in the region, but they seriously over achieved with the talent they had. Its a science and tech school that doesnt care about football and they still managed to win 6 games and make the playoffs. Give respect where respect is due.
Itll be interesting to see if they can maintain competitiveness next year while only returning 4 or 5 starters.
Itll be interesting to see if they can maintain competitiveness next year while only returning 4 or 5 starters.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Agreed
()
Date: January 22, 2013 07:18AM
Kinkaid is a really good football coach. He's doing a great job with what he has at Jefferson. I'm surprised his name hasn't been brought up for the Robinson job. I bet he would do really well their.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bubba Sparx
()
Date: January 22, 2013 08:26AM
Jefferson better be able to beat Stuart, Falls Church and Wakefield in their first three games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
St. John
()
Date: January 22, 2013 11:17AM
South County OC is out?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fred
()
Date: January 22, 2013 11:28AM
Falls Church won't be an easy game for TJ, or any National District team for that matter. They return almost all their starters on both sides of the ball, including several all-district performers at the skill positions.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
()
Date: January 22, 2013 11:33AM
Dude, telling me Falls Church is going to be good, is like telling me Wakefield and Stuart are going to compete for the Region title.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WSHSAdm
()
Date: January 22, 2013 11:53AM
West Springfield planning to hold HC interviews on the 28th of Jan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
westfield guy
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:09PM
no SOCO OC is not out. Still there and they return QB, 4 O-linemen 1 1steam all district RB 1 WR.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: January 23, 2013 09:02AM
Can't wait to see what the clown DSS comes with at West Sprongfield. They don't
need to look far to find Murray but I doubt they are that smart
need to look far to find Murray but I doubt they are that smart
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordeFB
()
Date: January 23, 2013 09:07AM
Any news on the Robinson Head Coach? Seems like it is taking a long time to either get or select the new Coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nah Brah
()
Date: January 23, 2013 08:15PM
Manti Te'o Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Can we post about something else besides Westfield
> and Oakton? How about National District and
> Liberty District Teams?
No because both districts are not very good in comparison to the Concorde or even the Patriot District for that matter. The National district usually has Yorktown or Hayfield winning and Stone Bridge always wins the Liberty
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> Can we post about something else besides Westfield
> and Oakton? How about National District and
> Liberty District Teams?
No because both districts are not very good in comparison to the Concorde or even the Patriot District for that matter. The National district usually has Yorktown or Hayfield winning and Stone Bridge always wins the Liberty
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
novafballer
()
Date: January 28, 2013 01:54PM
Agreed Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Kinkaid is a really good football coach. He's
> doing a great job with what he has at Jefferson.
> I'm surprised his name hasn't been brought up for
> the Robinson job. I bet he would do really well
> their.
Would Kinkaid want the Robinson job? Seems like he has established a good thing at TJ. If he wanted to step up to a better program, he could have done that at many other places in the last few years. I have heard some crazy rumours revolving around the Robinson job in the last few weeks. The one guy you have to know is beside himself is Coach Day from Herndon, if he held out 1 more year he might have been the front runner for the job.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Kinkaid is a really good football coach. He's
> doing a great job with what he has at Jefferson.
> I'm surprised his name hasn't been brought up for
> the Robinson job. I bet he would do really well
> their.
Would Kinkaid want the Robinson job? Seems like he has established a good thing at TJ. If he wanted to step up to a better program, he could have done that at many other places in the last few years. I have heard some crazy rumours revolving around the Robinson job in the last few weeks. The one guy you have to know is beside himself is Coach Day from Herndon, if he held out 1 more year he might have been the front runner for the job.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
D5 Football Fan
()
Date: January 30, 2013 12:33AM
Can someone explain how the D5 playoffs will work next year? Also a list of D5 teams would be nice? Is it also a 16 team formet/do teams from other regions participate?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
James Madison
()
Date: January 30, 2013 12:07PM
For 5A North: The teams that in will be most of the national district teams (Except Hayfield, Wash-Lee and Yorktown), Stone Bridge, Thomas Jefferson, Marshall, Lee, Freedom, Potomac. The Northern 5a conference looks weak as hell than ever.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
James Madison
()
Date: January 30, 2013 12:10PM
^Ignore the last comment. Actually, the Potomac district is in 5A north too which includes teams like Briar Woods, Broad Run, etc who can challenge Stone Bridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Kenny Kincaid
()
Date: January 30, 2013 12:38PM
How will TJ be next year? I know they lost tons of seniors.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WSHS
()
Date: January 30, 2013 03:57PM
Have Robinson or West Springfield interviewed yet? Who are the candidates? This is a slow process.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Blogger
()
Date: January 30, 2013 05:32PM
Brian Day will land one of those jobs. He has put in for both. I heard RJ Windows name tossed around for WS.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TJ fan
()
Date: January 30, 2013 09:01PM
TJ will return a second team all district wr (really a rb who was playing slot all year), an honorable mention linemen, and 2 honorable mention linebackers. They wont be deep but have a couple playmakers, should have a good game against falls church but i just cant see the boys competing with better liberty district teams again this year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
St. Jon
()
Date: January 30, 2013 09:28PM
Coaching changes-
West Springfield-
Eric Henderson, Brian Day and Matt Shannon are the front runners
Robinson-
Inside guy and d coordinator from Centerville (also heard linebackers coach newl from Cville has had his 2nd interview (he would be the best there)
Pete bendorf was also in conversations.
Chantilly-
Coach L is bringing in a new QB coach and OC. Word is if Matt Shannon doesn't get the head job he will be there. They opened that spot for him.
Westfield-
still out of an OC but was seen at the ocean city coaching clinic with the Freedom OC Corey Hoopengardner. Doubt that move will happen though.
Oakton-
D coordinator position is still open for some reason according to the DSA which seems absolutely ridiculous. If this is the case there's major issues.
South County
Someone reported that the OC left but according to coach P he is still there.
That's all I got as of now. Will keep you posted wen news unfolds.
-St. Jon
West Springfield-
Eric Henderson, Brian Day and Matt Shannon are the front runners
Robinson-
Inside guy and d coordinator from Centerville (also heard linebackers coach newl from Cville has had his 2nd interview (he would be the best there)
Pete bendorf was also in conversations.
Chantilly-
Coach L is bringing in a new QB coach and OC. Word is if Matt Shannon doesn't get the head job he will be there. They opened that spot for him.
Westfield-
still out of an OC but was seen at the ocean city coaching clinic with the Freedom OC Corey Hoopengardner. Doubt that move will happen though.
Oakton-
D coordinator position is still open for some reason according to the DSA which seems absolutely ridiculous. If this is the case there's major issues.
South County
Someone reported that the OC left but according to coach P he is still there.
That's all I got as of now. Will keep you posted wen news unfolds.
-St. Jon
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wtguy
()
Date: January 30, 2013 09:46PM
I thought the Westfield D cord Sheilds was out too?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....talent
()
Date: January 30, 2013 10:33PM
Oaktons DC is Rowley the HC.
Btw - your entire post is lies.
Btw - your entire post is lies.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
to TJ fan
()
Date: January 31, 2013 08:54AM
TJ fan, what makes you think TJ vs Falls Church is going to be a good game? Doesn't TJ play other National District schools also?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ShootingBlanks
()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:24AM
Touché sir on the Oakton piece but I do believe some of that post is correct.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cornholio
()
Date: February 02, 2013 10:56AM
due to all the recent bad press and child porn West Springfield has lost all their candidates and will need to start over.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WSHS
()
Date: February 02, 2013 11:04AM
So your telling me every candidate that they interviewed removed their name? That doesn't seem possible. Did they not like any of the candidates?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HHS
()
Date: February 02, 2013 02:58PM
Brian Day will be the next Head Coach.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: February 03, 2013 03:29PM
Whoever is getting the WS job is going to have to be talked into it big time. Biddi has trashed the program for several years. His firing was 2 years too late. The DSS at the school is a clown- he is a running joke among the athletes and the parents. The new coach will have a heck of a job convincing the players that Biddi chased away to come back. The only teams at WS that are any good are the ones that do not rely on the high school coaches- ie swimming, lacrosse, girls basketball. These are year round sports and would be good with whomever the DSS pulls out of his hat to coach them. It will be entertaining to see who is hired for football...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Letsbereal
()
Date: February 04, 2013 09:45PM
Lets be real, Centreville and Westfield will repeat for the region in 2013 and the Bulldogs will win it. They have a whole returning D and the burns kid on O is the best in the region.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cornholio
()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:16AM
Matt Shannon to West Springfield? It makes sense. He played there and not in the Robinson running.
Robinson is turning into a fing joke. This is terrible how long its taking to make a decision on a HC. Those poor kids
Robinson is turning into a fing joke. This is terrible how long its taking to make a decision on a HC. Those poor kids
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: February 07, 2013 10:00AM
Why not? Can't find anyone else desperate enough to take the job. He is a retread failed head coach. WS likes those.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TJ fan
()
Date: February 09, 2013 07:11PM
TJ plays in the liberty district, not the national
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TJ?
()
Date: February 09, 2013 11:33PM
if you call that playing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Turd Diggler
()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:38PM
TJ had one good year, Good luck next season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robo.
()
Date: February 11, 2013 05:11PM
errr uhhh RamPride?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WestfieldPlayer
()
Date: February 13, 2013 01:11PM
Coach Everett is the new defensive coordinator and Coach Shields is our new offensive coordinator
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: February 13, 2013 02:01PM
WestfieldPlayer Wrote:
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> Coach Everett is the new defensive coordinator and
> Coach Shields is our new offensive coordinator
Heard the same and it is confirmed.
I wonder where all the posters are that said Shields was gone? No way, great coach and kids love him.
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> Coach Everett is the new defensive coordinator and
> Coach Shields is our new offensive coordinator
Heard the same and it is confirmed.
I wonder where all the posters are that said Shields was gone? No way, great coach and kids love him.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
B. Wells
()
Date: February 14, 2013 12:53PM
What are the new names of the districts now? And who are the favorites in the old National and Liberty district?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Uradumbass
()
Date: February 15, 2013 09:08PM
The new names of the districts are Concorde, Liberty, National and Patriot. The favorites in the National are Hayfield and Yorktown, in the Liberty it is Stonebridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concerned Ram
()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:43AM
Now that Robinson isn't hiring a new principal until July are they going to hire a new football coach soon? They could have a good team next year if the administration doesn't screw this up.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nuts!!!
()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:56AM
This has become pretty damn pathetic on Robinson's part!
The guy they want, Chris Haddock, is not leaving Centreville. They have two young and very capable coaches right in front of them in Matthie and Vossler. I really don't understand this thinking process! From what I'm hearing, some of the players are already talking transfer! Joe Wilson will likely end up with his old coach at South County and some of the other young talent might end up across the way in Lake Braddock.
The guy they want, Chris Haddock, is not leaving Centreville. They have two young and very capable coaches right in front of them in Matthie and Vossler. I really don't understand this thinking process! From what I'm hearing, some of the players are already talking transfer! Joe Wilson will likely end up with his old coach at South County and some of the other young talent might end up across the way in Lake Braddock.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Koolaide
()
Date: February 16, 2013 07:47PM
How does Westfield continue to pull coaches from around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must be paying these guys a ton
Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont get it whats happening over there... they havent won a ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont get it whats happening over there... they havent won a ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RandytheRam
()
Date: February 16, 2013 08:52PM
All the other Concorde coaches would be licking their chops if Vossler was hired. He is so green no assistants and never even been a coordinator. Have you ever talked to the guy, he is a pompous jerk. No clue about schemes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
kahn chord
()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:01PM
Look, a district can only be so strong before it starts to wear itself out. For the Concorde to get back to producing state champs it needs one or two teams to lower their level so they don't slaughter each other before week 11. Robinson has put itself in this position so I say go with a first time/never been coordinator head coach and let the other teams get back to focusing on the real prize.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillebacker
()
Date: February 19, 2013 02:13PM
Wanted to get the Football board back on the front page as well as hear if anyone had a big game marked on the 2013 schedule.
Looks like Centreville will open the year aginst West Potomac on August 29 to start the season. This should be a good one with these 2 playoff teams from last year playing early. With the new classifications this could be a very meaningful game come playoff seeding time.
Any other games circled yet?
Looks like Centreville will open the year aginst West Potomac on August 29 to start the season. This should be a good one with these 2 playoff teams from last year playing early. With the new classifications this could be a very meaningful game come playoff seeding time.
Any other games circled yet?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....
()
Date: February 19, 2013 07:17PM
Everyone should schedule Oakton as a W they are gonna suck!
Centreville will rule!!
Centreville will rule!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TommyBoy
()
Date: February 19, 2013 07:33PM
Koolaide Wrote:
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> How does Westfield continue to pull coaches from
> around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must be
> paying these guys a ton
>
> Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
>
> 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont get
> it whats happening over there... they havent won a
> ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and they are good every year, 24-2 the last two years....who wouldn't want to coach there? Lots of people on their ass for losing two Regional Championships and maybe rightly so....but I say 95% of the posters on this board would love to have a team like Westfield and 98% never, ever thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent year. Good program, good coaches and good kids.
-------------------------------------------------------
> How does Westfield continue to pull coaches from
> around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must be
> paying these guys a ton
>
> Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
>
> 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont get
> it whats happening over there... they havent won a
> ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and they are good every year, 24-2 the last two years....who wouldn't want to coach there? Lots of people on their ass for losing two Regional Championships and maybe rightly so....but I say 95% of the posters on this board would love to have a team like Westfield and 98% never, ever thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent year. Good program, good coaches and good kids.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Watermelon Head
()
Date: February 21, 2013 09:53AM
TommyBoy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Koolaide Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How does Westfield continue to pull coaches
> from
> > around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must be
> > paying these guys a ton
> >
> > Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> > Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
> >
> > 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont
> get
> > it whats happening over there... they havent won
> a
> > ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
>
>
> Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and they
> are good every year, 24-2 the last two
> years....who wouldn't want to coach there? Lots
> of people on their ass for losing two Regional
> Championships and maybe rightly so....but I say
> 95% of the posters on this board would love to
> have a team like Westfield and 98% never, ever
> thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent
> year. Good program, good coaches and good kids.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who ever counts Westfield in? They are always underdogs preseason then they do what they do! Those coaches over there know how to coach! I bet you that if you walk into a WestPo practice or a TC practice there will be 2x the amount of athletes Westfield has. Those guys just know what they're doing down there in Chantilly.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Koolaide Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How does Westfield continue to pull coaches
> from
> > around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must be
> > paying these guys a ton
> >
> > Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> > Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
> >
> > 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont
> get
> > it whats happening over there... they havent won
> a
> > ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
>
>
> Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and they
> are good every year, 24-2 the last two
> years....who wouldn't want to coach there? Lots
> of people on their ass for losing two Regional
> Championships and maybe rightly so....but I say
> 95% of the posters on this board would love to
> have a team like Westfield and 98% never, ever
> thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent
> year. Good program, good coaches and good kids.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who ever counts Westfield in? They are always underdogs preseason then they do what they do! Those coaches over there know how to coach! I bet you that if you walk into a WestPo practice or a TC practice there will be 2x the amount of athletes Westfield has. Those guys just know what they're doing down there in Chantilly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordeking
()
Date: February 22, 2013 12:26AM
Watermelon Head Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> TommyBoy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Koolaide Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How does Westfield continue to pull coaches
> > from
> > > around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must
> be
> > > paying these guys a ton
> > >
> > > Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> > > Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
>
> > >
> > > 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont
> > get
> > > it whats happening over there... they havent
> won
> > a
> > > ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
> >
> >
> > Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and they
> > are good every year, 24-2 the last two
> > years....who wouldn't want to coach there?
> Lots
> > of people on their ass for losing two Regional
> > Championships and maybe rightly so....but I say
> > 95% of the posters on this board would love to
> > have a team like Westfield and 98% never, ever
> > thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent
> > year. Good program, good coaches and good
> kids.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------
>
> Who ever counts Westfield in? They are always
> underdogs preseason then they do what they do!
> Those coaches over there know how to coach! I bet
> you that if you walk into a WestPo practice or a
> TC practice there will be 2x the amount of
> athletes Westfield has. Those guys just know what
> they're doing down there in Chantilly.
Westfield is done at least for next year. They got nothing unless they recruit well this offseason. Chantilly will beat Westfield next year! They will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE will make the playoffs under next years format, they maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they are. Coaches can only do so much! You got to have the horses and Westfields barn is empty.
Chantilly may be the surprise team of next year. With the transfers I hear they are getting they may play later than usual. Of course Centreville is the team to beat, at least on paper. They return more than anyone and their staff will Coach with anyone.
-------------------------------------------------------
> TommyBoy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Koolaide Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How does Westfield continue to pull coaches
> > from
> > > around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must
> be
> > > paying these guys a ton
> > >
> > > Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> > > Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff now!
>
> > >
> > > 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i dont
> > get
> > > it whats happening over there... they havent
> won
> > a
> > > ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
> >
> >
> > Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and they
> > are good every year, 24-2 the last two
> > years....who wouldn't want to coach there?
> Lots
> > of people on their ass for losing two Regional
> > Championships and maybe rightly so....but I say
> > 95% of the posters on this board would love to
> > have a team like Westfield and 98% never, ever
> > thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent
> > year. Good program, good coaches and good
> kids.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------
>
> Who ever counts Westfield in? They are always
> underdogs preseason then they do what they do!
> Those coaches over there know how to coach! I bet
> you that if you walk into a WestPo practice or a
> TC practice there will be 2x the amount of
> athletes Westfield has. Those guys just know what
> they're doing down there in Chantilly.
Westfield is done at least for next year. They got nothing unless they recruit well this offseason. Chantilly will beat Westfield next year! They will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE will make the playoffs under next years format, they maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they are. Coaches can only do so much! You got to have the horses and Westfields barn is empty.
Chantilly may be the surprise team of next year. With the transfers I hear they are getting they may play later than usual. Of course Centreville is the team to beat, at least on paper. They return more than anyone and their staff will Coach with anyone.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....
()
Date: February 22, 2013 05:00AM
I don't get the Centreville staff can coach with anyone. Haddock sucks. He lost at fairfax and Chantilly and everywhere before. He was a JOKE at Fairfax. He got a lucky opportunity at centreville with a group of kids Gerry P started playing very young. The two guys worth their salt Neff and Matthie are on their way out. If Matthie doesn't get the Robinson job then both those guys may end up at a rival school. Both guys went to the box in the playoffs to escape Haddocks bs on the sideline. Everyone says he should win a state title in the next two years, I say he fs it up and walks away with nothing. Keep running that wing t and playing man coverage so teams from the beach can come in and rape you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RGIV
()
Date: February 22, 2013 09:50AM
Concordeking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Watermelon Head Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TommyBoy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Koolaide Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > How does Westfield continue to pull coaches
> > > from
> > > > around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must
> > be
> > > > paying these guys a ton
> > > >
> > > > Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> > > > Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff
> now!
> >
> > > >
> > > > 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i
> dont
> > > get
> > > > it whats happening over there... they
> havent
> > won
> > > a
> > > > ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
> > >
> > >
> > > Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and
> they
> > > are good every year, 24-2 the last two
> > > years....who wouldn't want to coach there?
> > Lots
> > > of people on their ass for losing two
> Regional
> > > Championships and maybe rightly so....but I
> say
> > > 95% of the posters on this board would love
> to
> > > have a team like Westfield and 98% never,
> ever
> > > thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent
> > > year. Good program, good coaches and good
> > kids.
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----------------------------
> >
> > Who ever counts Westfield in? They are always
> > underdogs preseason then they do what they do!
> > Those coaches over there know how to coach! I
> bet
> > you that if you walk into a WestPo practice or
> a
> > TC practice there will be 2x the amount of
> > athletes Westfield has. Those guys just know
> what
> > they're doing down there in Chantilly.
>
>
> Westfield is done at least for next year. They got
> nothing unless they recruit well this offseason.
> Chantilly will beat Westfield next year! They
> will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE will
> make the playoffs under next years format, they
> maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they are.
> Coaches can only do so much! You got to have the
> horses and Westfields barn is empty.
>
> Chantilly may be the surprise team of next year.
> With the transfers I hear they are getting they
> may play later than usual. Of course Centreville
> is the team to beat, at least on paper. They
> return more than anyone and their staff will Coach
> with anyone.
Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield has another great season....not sure why you are counting them out so early....they played alot of underclassmen last year, alot more than usual so they have some depth coming back.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Watermelon Head Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TommyBoy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Koolaide Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > How does Westfield continue to pull coaches
> > > from
> > > > around Northern Virgina? Coach Simmons must
> > be
> > > > paying these guys a ton
> > > >
> > > > Coach Hoopingarer or Hoop the Offensive
> > > > Coordinator from Freedom High is on staff
> now!
> >
> > > >
> > > > 4 ex head coaches.. 3 coordinators .. i
> dont
> > > get
> > > > it whats happening over there... they
> havent
> > won
> > > a
> > > > ring since Royster Glennen and Royal!
> > >
> > >
> > > Well they won one with Glennon v2.0....and
> they
> > > are good every year, 24-2 the last two
> > > years....who wouldn't want to coach there?
> > Lots
> > > of people on their ass for losing two
> Regional
> > > Championships and maybe rightly so....but I
> say
> > > 95% of the posters on this board would love
> to
> > > have a team like Westfield and 98% never,
> ever
> > > thought they would go 12-1 in the most recent
> > > year. Good program, good coaches and good
> > kids.
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----------------------------
> >
> > Who ever counts Westfield in? They are always
> > underdogs preseason then they do what they do!
> > Those coaches over there know how to coach! I
> bet
> > you that if you walk into a WestPo practice or
> a
> > TC practice there will be 2x the amount of
> > athletes Westfield has. Those guys just know
> what
> > they're doing down there in Chantilly.
>
>
> Westfield is done at least for next year. They got
> nothing unless they recruit well this offseason.
> Chantilly will beat Westfield next year! They
> will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE will
> make the playoffs under next years format, they
> maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they are.
> Coaches can only do so much! You got to have the
> horses and Westfields barn is empty.
>
> Chantilly may be the surprise team of next year.
> With the transfers I hear they are getting they
> may play later than usual. Of course Centreville
> is the team to beat, at least on paper. They
> return more than anyone and their staff will Coach
> with anyone.
Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield has another great season....not sure why you are counting them out so early....they played alot of underclassmen last year, alot more than usual so they have some depth coming back.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordeking
()
Date: February 23, 2013 03:10PM
> > Westfield is done at least for next year. They
> got
> > nothing unless they recruit well this
> offseason.
> > Chantilly will beat Westfield next year! They
> > will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE
> will
> > make the playoffs under next years format, they
> > maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they are.
> > Coaches can only do so much! You got to have
> the
> > horses and Westfields barn is empty.
> >
> > Chantilly may be the surprise team of next
> year.
> > With the transfers I hear they are getting they
> > may play later than usual. Of course
> Centreville
> > is the team to beat, at least on paper. They
> > return more than anyone and their staff will
> Coach
> > with anyone.
>
>
> Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield has
> another great season....not sure why you are
> counting them out so early....they played alot of
> underclassmen last year, alot more than usual so
> they have some depth coming back.
Really, what players are coming back? From what I remember anyone who was any good graduated. The O line is decimated, no QB, one returning RB & WR. One DB anybody else?
> got
> > nothing unless they recruit well this
> offseason.
> > Chantilly will beat Westfield next year! They
> > will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE
> will
> > make the playoffs under next years format, they
> > maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they are.
> > Coaches can only do so much! You got to have
> the
> > horses and Westfields barn is empty.
> >
> > Chantilly may be the surprise team of next
> year.
> > With the transfers I hear they are getting they
> > may play later than usual. Of course
> Centreville
> > is the team to beat, at least on paper. They
> > return more than anyone and their staff will
> Coach
> > with anyone.
>
>
> Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield has
> another great season....not sure why you are
> counting them out so early....they played alot of
> underclassmen last year, alot more than usual so
> they have some depth coming back.
Really, what players are coming back? From what I remember anyone who was any good graduated. The O line is decimated, no QB, one returning RB & WR. One DB anybody else?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
westfield2.0
()
Date: February 24, 2013 10:24AM
Concordeking Wrote:
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> > > Westfield is done at least for next year.
> They
> > got
> > > nothing unless they recruit well this
> > offseason.
> > > Chantilly will beat Westfield next year!
> They
> > > will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE
> > will
> > > make the playoffs under next years format,
> they
> > > maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they
> are.
> > > Coaches can only do so much! You got to have
> > the
> > > horses and Westfields barn is empty.
> > >
> > > Chantilly may be the surprise team of next
> > year.
> > > With the transfers I hear they are getting
> they
> > > may play later than usual. Of course
> > Centreville
> > > is the team to beat, at least on paper. They
> > > return more than anyone and their staff will
> > Coach
> > > with anyone.
> >
> >
> > Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield has
> > another great season....not sure why you are
> > counting them out so early....they played alot
> of
> > underclassmen last year, alot more than usual
> so
> > they have some depth coming back.
>
> Really, what players are coming back? From what I
> remember anyone who was any good graduated. The O
> line is decimated, no QB, one returning RB & WR.
> One DB anybody else?
they have a safety, two old, 2 inside lb who got some starts this season, and mark my words there d line will be dominate this year
-------------------------------------------------------
> > > Westfield is done at least for next year.
> They
> > got
> > > nothing unless they recruit well this
> > offseason.
> > > Chantilly will beat Westfield next year!
> They
> > > will make the playoffs only because EVERYONE
> > will
> > > make the playoffs under next years format,
> they
> > > maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they
> are.
> > > Coaches can only do so much! You got to have
> > the
> > > horses and Westfields barn is empty.
> > >
> > > Chantilly may be the surprise team of next
> > year.
> > > With the transfers I hear they are getting
> they
> > > may play later than usual. Of course
> > Centreville
> > > is the team to beat, at least on paper. They
> > > return more than anyone and their staff will
> > Coach
> > > with anyone.
> >
> >
> > Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield has
> > another great season....not sure why you are
> > counting them out so early....they played alot
> of
> > underclassmen last year, alot more than usual
> so
> > they have some depth coming back.
>
> Really, what players are coming back? From what I
> remember anyone who was any good graduated. The O
> line is decimated, no QB, one returning RB & WR.
> One DB anybody else?
they have a safety, two old, 2 inside lb who got some starts this season, and mark my words there d line will be dominate this year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bullfroggy
()
Date: February 24, 2013 10:46AM
westfield2.0 Wrote:
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> Concordeking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > > Westfield is done at least for next year.
> > They
> > > got
> > > > nothing unless they recruit well this
> > > offseason.
> > > > Chantilly will beat Westfield next year!
> > They
> > > > will make the playoffs only because
> EVERYONE
> > > will
> > > > make the playoffs under next years format,
> > they
> > > > maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they
> > are.
> > > > Coaches can only do so much! You got to
> have
> > > the
> > > > horses and Westfields barn is empty.
> > > >
> > > > Chantilly may be the surprise team of next
> > > year.
> > > > With the transfers I hear they are getting
> > they
> > > > may play later than usual. Of course
> > > Centreville
> > > > is the team to beat, at least on paper.
> They
> > > > return more than anyone and their staff
> will
> > > Coach
> > > > with anyone.
> > >
> > >
> > > Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield
> has
> > > another great season....not sure why you are
> > > counting them out so early....they played
> alot
> > of
> > > underclassmen last year, alot more than usual
> > so
> > > they have some depth coming back.
> >
> > Really, what players are coming back? From what
> I
> > remember anyone who was any good graduated. The
> O
> > line is decimated, no QB, one returning RB &
> WR.
> > One DB anybody else?
>
>
> they have a safety, two old, 2 inside lb who got
> some starts this season, and mark my words there d
> line will be dominate this year
And 4 RB's , a tight end and WR who all saw significant time last year. Just like nobody saw 12-1, an all district QB, a dominant o-line, etc last year, they will re-tool again in 2013. Don't assume C'ville will win just because they look so good on paper.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Concordeking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > > Westfield is done at least for next year.
> > They
> > > got
> > > > nothing unless they recruit well this
> > > offseason.
> > > > Chantilly will beat Westfield next year!
> > They
> > > > will make the playoffs only because
> EVERYONE
> > > will
> > > > make the playoffs under next years format,
> > they
> > > > maybe a visiting team, that's how bad they
> > are.
> > > > Coaches can only do so much! You got to
> have
> > > the
> > > > horses and Westfields barn is empty.
> > > >
> > > > Chantilly may be the surprise team of next
> > > year.
> > > > With the transfers I hear they are getting
> > they
> > > > may play later than usual. Of course
> > > Centreville
> > > > is the team to beat, at least on paper.
> They
> > > > return more than anyone and their staff
> will
> > > Coach
> > > > with anyone.
> > >
> > >
> > > Will keep this quote on hand when Westfield
> has
> > > another great season....not sure why you are
> > > counting them out so early....they played
> alot
> > of
> > > underclassmen last year, alot more than usual
> > so
> > > they have some depth coming back.
> >
> > Really, what players are coming back? From what
> I
> > remember anyone who was any good graduated. The
> O
> > line is decimated, no QB, one returning RB &
> WR.
> > One DB anybody else?
>
>
> they have a safety, two old, 2 inside lb who got
> some starts this season, and mark my words there d
> line will be dominate this year
And 4 RB's , a tight end and WR who all saw significant time last year. Just like nobody saw 12-1, an all district QB, a dominant o-line, etc last year, they will re-tool again in 2013. Don't assume C'ville will win just because they look so good on paper.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
youretard
()
Date: February 26, 2013 12:31PM
Obviously you know nothing about westfield football. They have 3 returning starters on DL. Their whole secondary is back except for a corner. One linebacker returning.
Offensively, one word. DEVON BURNS. Best WR in the region. Tyler Thrasher-Walker the RB is coming back. 3 out of 5 linemen are coming back.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Offensively, one word. DEVON BURNS. Best WR in the region. Tyler Thrasher-Walker the RB is coming back. 3 out of 5 linemen are coming back.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WHS
()
Date: February 27, 2013 02:10PM
As a former WHS football player, I was on the sideline the past two years and what I saw was this. Our kids looked straight slow out of the gate, and when they would be on defense, the D-line could not get off the ball, also they could not hit to save their lives.
I'm not bagging on my old team, but the regional championship teams of the past two years have not played well and have done the exact same thing, they ran the ball and they did not use their play makers on the outside. They became predictable and all Oakton and Centreville had to do was stop the run and the game was basically in hand.
For those of you who remember C-ville v. Westfield, C-ville was winning 27-10 before WHS started passing the ball and got the ball in the hands of their playmakers, they scored 14 points VERY quickly once they did that. So my hat goes off to Simmons for firing the inept Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator!
I'm not bagging on my old team, but the regional championship teams of the past two years have not played well and have done the exact same thing, they ran the ball and they did not use their play makers on the outside. They became predictable and all Oakton and Centreville had to do was stop the run and the game was basically in hand.
For those of you who remember C-ville v. Westfield, C-ville was winning 27-10 before WHS started passing the ball and got the ball in the hands of their playmakers, they scored 14 points VERY quickly once they did that. So my hat goes off to Simmons for firing the inept Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sideline observer
()
Date: February 27, 2013 05:43PM
Who is the favorite to win OPOY and DPOY in the region next year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VA ref
()
Date: February 28, 2013 09:24AM
MJ Stewart Yorktown, Demornay Pierson-El West Po, and or Joe Wilson Robinson, Who actually led the entire DC Metro in rushing and touchdowns.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sidelind observer
()
Date: February 28, 2013 09:45AM
Is there no longer a dominate name on the defensive side anymore? No Jon Allens out there in the region? Also, Mj stewart will be hard to beat, seeing that he might get just as many touches at Joe Wilson this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FormerWHSplayer
()
Date: February 28, 2013 11:09PM
WHS-----
So, wha would have been the winning formula for the Bulldogs in the NR CHampionship game vs. Oakton this year? I am curious as to your thoughts?
So, wha would have been the winning formula for the Bulldogs in the NR CHampionship game vs. Oakton this year? I am curious as to your thoughts?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordeking
()
Date: February 28, 2013 11:50PM
WHS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> As a former WHS football player, I was on the
> sideline the past two years and what I saw was
> this. Our kids looked straight slow out of the
> gate, and when they would be on defense, the
> D-line could not get off the ball, also they could
> not hit to save their lives.
>
> I'm not bagging on my old team, but the regional
> championship teams of the past two years have not
> played well and have done the exact same thing,
> they ran the ball and they did not use their play
> makers on the outside. They became predictable and
> all Oakton and Centreville had to do was stop the
> run and the game was basically in hand.
>
> For those of you who remember C-ville v.
> Westfield, C-ville was winning 27-10 before WHS
> started passing the ball and got the ball in the
> hands of their playmakers, they scored 14 points
> VERY quickly once they did that. So my hat goes
> off to Simmons for firing the inept Offensive
> Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator!
Get used to the lack of quality play from Westfield. They got nothing coming back, I don't care what these homers say. Cville is the team to beat, hands down! Everyone knows they are bringing back all their top players off of a playoff team from last year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> As a former WHS football player, I was on the
> sideline the past two years and what I saw was
> this. Our kids looked straight slow out of the
> gate, and when they would be on defense, the
> D-line could not get off the ball, also they could
> not hit to save their lives.
>
> I'm not bagging on my old team, but the regional
> championship teams of the past two years have not
> played well and have done the exact same thing,
> they ran the ball and they did not use their play
> makers on the outside. They became predictable and
> all Oakton and Centreville had to do was stop the
> run and the game was basically in hand.
>
> For those of you who remember C-ville v.
> Westfield, C-ville was winning 27-10 before WHS
> started passing the ball and got the ball in the
> hands of their playmakers, they scored 14 points
> VERY quickly once they did that. So my hat goes
> off to Simmons for firing the inept Offensive
> Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator!
Get used to the lack of quality play from Westfield. They got nothing coming back, I don't care what these homers say. Cville is the team to beat, hands down! Everyone knows they are bringing back all their top players off of a playoff team from last year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WCAC
()
Date: March 02, 2013 03:39PM
Who are the best and most respected coaches in northern virginia?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
that guy
()
Date: March 02, 2013 05:44PM
WCAC Wrote:
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> Who are the best and most respected coaches in
> northern virginia?
Mark Bendorf before he retired. He was the former Robinson Head Coach. He also Coached at Chantilly.
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> Who are the best and most respected coaches in
> northern virginia?
Mark Bendorf before he retired. He was the former Robinson Head Coach. He also Coached at Chantilly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....
()
Date: March 02, 2013 06:49PM
Jason Rowley at Oakton is respected and So is his staff. They have been together for a long time and do great things with less talent than the other Concorde schools.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordeKing
()
Date: March 03, 2013 02:56AM
Really.... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Jason Rowley at Oakton is respected and So is his
> staff. They have been together for a long time and
> do great things with less talent than the other
> Concorde schools.
They got lucky last year, let's see what they can do this year!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Jason Rowley at Oakton is respected and So is his
> staff. They have been together for a long time and
> do great things with less talent than the other
> Concorde schools.
They got lucky last year, let's see what they can do this year!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Catsallday
()
Date: March 03, 2013 09:55AM
Seriously? Rowley?
Cmon, chris haddock has got to be considered one of the best coaches around. He built fairfax into a servicable program and is now leading one of the best programs in the state in centreville. Fairfax was pure SHITTY before he took over. A trip to the state finals in 2011, wont be the last time we make that trip.
#wildcatnation
Cmon, chris haddock has got to be considered one of the best coaches around. He built fairfax into a servicable program and is now leading one of the best programs in the state in centreville. Fairfax was pure SHITTY before he took over. A trip to the state finals in 2011, wont be the last time we make that trip.
#wildcatnation
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sideline observer
()
Date: March 03, 2013 11:38AM
How come there is never love for Bruce Hanson from Yorktown. The guy has over 200 career victories, not including develpoing talent up there at Yorktown. I have to give him a lot of credit
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...
()
Date: March 03, 2013 02:05PM
God bless America - Haddock sucks. He was terrible at fairfax. Where do you get he was a savior. They had to leave the Concorde case they couldn't compete. He went 0-10 at Chantilly before he went to fairfax. He inherited a group of players that had 20 varsity games as juniors because Gerry Panoni had the smart sense to play those kids early and develop them. He has better athletes than any othe Concorde school. He should win 2state titles but he won't. He is an ass on the sidelines. He got out coached in the regional semi game this year. His style can't compete with the beach. That's why they got rolled.
Oakton has the most D6 northern region titles (4) since 2000. That speaks for itself. Long term equals quality. Westfield should also be recognized for their quality program. Haddock has 1 really good year and he is the second coming. Btw- if he could have gotten a dean of students job at Robinson he would have jumped ship. He doesn't want to teach. That's not a leader of young men.
Oakton has the most D6 northern region titles (4) since 2000. That speaks for itself. Long term equals quality. Westfield should also be recognized for their quality program. Haddock has 1 really good year and he is the second coming. Btw- if he could have gotten a dean of students job at Robinson he would have jumped ship. He doesn't want to teach. That's not a leader of young men.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yorktown
()
Date: March 03, 2013 02:06PM
Yorktown never has to play anybody that's why. That will change now that they are d6. If they continue to win he will get a ton of respect. He is respected as a coach but he is thought of as an ass.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVA
()
Date: March 03, 2013 02:24PM
Poythress from Lake Braddock has to be in the mix. They have been one of the Top 4 teams in the Northern Region for the last 4 years. 2 NR Championships, 1 NR semi, 1 state runner-up, 1 state semi.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Asian Market
()
Date: March 03, 2013 06:06PM
The best coaches are the ones who coach at Marshall, Falls Church, Stuart, MV, and Wakefield. These coaches don't have the resources and talent the schools above do. Atleast not as much talent as the coaches that get their butt holes licked non-stop on this website.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....
()
Date: March 03, 2013 06:35PM
Those teams don't win games
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Zippy
()
Date: March 03, 2013 06:48PM
Pannoni at South County.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: March 04, 2013 10:28AM
WCAC Wrote:
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> Who are the best and most respected coaches in
> northern virginia?
Seriously.....all these replies and not one mention of Tom Verbanic? Are you kidding. Anyone who knows this guy or had a kid coached by this guy knows he is by far the most respected coach, as well as a fair, honest and decent guy.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who are the best and most respected coaches in
> northern virginia?
Seriously.....all these replies and not one mention of Tom Verbanic? Are you kidding. Anyone who knows this guy or had a kid coached by this guy knows he is by far the most respected coach, as well as a fair, honest and decent guy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
really....
()
Date: March 04, 2013 11:51AM
I agree about Verbanic, I think that he is not in the conversation because he left public school. Because he is now coaching at Flint Hill he is not part of the discussion.
He is a great coach, no doubt.
He is a great coach, no doubt.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordeKing
()
Date: March 04, 2013 12:28PM
Really... Wrote:
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> God bless America - Haddock sucks. He was terrible
> at fairfax. Where do you get he was a savior. They
> had to leave the Concorde case they couldn't
> compete. He went 0-10 at Chantilly before he went
> to fairfax. He inherited a group of players that
> had 20 varsity games as juniors because Gerry
> Panoni had the smart sense to play those kids
> early and develop them. He has better athletes
> than any othe Concorde school. He should win
> 2state titles but he won't. He is an ass on the
> sidelines. He got out coached in the regional semi
> game this year. His style can't compete with the
> beach. That's why they got rolled.
>
> Oakton has the most D6 northern region titles (4)
> since 2000. That speaks for itself. Long term
> equals quality. Westfield should also be
> recognized for their quality program. Haddock has
> 1 really good year and he is the second coming.
> Btw- if he could have gotten a dean of students
> job at Robinson he would have jumped ship. He
> doesn't want to teach. That's not a leader of
> young men.
Dude what is your hard on for Haddock? Did he beat you when you coached against him or he didn't play your talentless son while he was at Fairfax? He has done a great job wherever he has gone.. making each place better while he was there. You mention Chantilly... was he ever the Head Coach there?
You just sound bitter and whiny .. support your argument with the truth or go away.
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> God bless America - Haddock sucks. He was terrible
> at fairfax. Where do you get he was a savior. They
> had to leave the Concorde case they couldn't
> compete. He went 0-10 at Chantilly before he went
> to fairfax. He inherited a group of players that
> had 20 varsity games as juniors because Gerry
> Panoni had the smart sense to play those kids
> early and develop them. He has better athletes
> than any othe Concorde school. He should win
> 2state titles but he won't. He is an ass on the
> sidelines. He got out coached in the regional semi
> game this year. His style can't compete with the
> beach. That's why they got rolled.
>
> Oakton has the most D6 northern region titles (4)
> since 2000. That speaks for itself. Long term
> equals quality. Westfield should also be
> recognized for their quality program. Haddock has
> 1 really good year and he is the second coming.
> Btw- if he could have gotten a dean of students
> job at Robinson he would have jumped ship. He
> doesn't want to teach. That's not a leader of
> young men.
Dude what is your hard on for Haddock? Did he beat you when you coached against him or he didn't play your talentless son while he was at Fairfax? He has done a great job wherever he has gone.. making each place better while he was there. You mention Chantilly... was he ever the Head Coach there?
You just sound bitter and whiny .. support your argument with the truth or go away.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JustaCoach
()
Date: March 04, 2013 12:38PM
Coached against Coach Hansen at Yorktown occasionally over the years and I can assure you that you will be hard pressed to find any coach in Northern VA over the past 27 years that does not think highly of him.
Coach Verbanic (I'm biased), Coach Lewis, formerly of Edison, and Coach Thompson (Stone Bridge - despite the recent incident after this year's D5 Championship game) are/were three of the most respected by their peers in Northern Virginia.
Coach Verbanic (I'm biased), Coach Lewis, formerly of Edison, and Coach Thompson (Stone Bridge - despite the recent incident after this year's D5 Championship game) are/were three of the most respected by their peers in Northern Virginia.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: March 04, 2013 12:43PM
JustaCoach Wrote:
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> Coached against Coach Hansen at Yorktown
> occasionally over the years and I can assure you
> that you will be hard pressed to find any coach in
> Northern VA over the past 27 years that does not
> think highly of him.
>
> Coach Verbanic (I'm biased), Coach Lewis, formerly
> of Edison, and Coach Thompson (Stone Bridge -
> despite the recent incident after this year's D5
> Championship game) are/were three of the most
> respected by their peers in Northern Virginia.
What was the incident with Coach Thompson after the D-5 Championship game? I missed that one.....?
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> Coached against Coach Hansen at Yorktown
> occasionally over the years and I can assure you
> that you will be hard pressed to find any coach in
> Northern VA over the past 27 years that does not
> think highly of him.
>
> Coach Verbanic (I'm biased), Coach Lewis, formerly
> of Edison, and Coach Thompson (Stone Bridge -
> despite the recent incident after this year's D5
> Championship game) are/were three of the most
> respected by their peers in Northern Virginia.
What was the incident with Coach Thompson after the D-5 Championship game? I missed that one.....?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: March 04, 2013 01:16PM
Good call on Vaughn Lewis. He kind of pulled a Joe Gibbs type deal in HS where he coached for many years, won a state championship, then left some few years later. Once he left, Randolph had maybe 1 decent year but he ran that program back into the ground when it had tons of athletes there despite being a small school. Once Lewis came back he took them to the top just a few short years later and had what some might call a D-5 dynasty where Edison was consistently district champs, competing against Stone Bridge it seemed evey year for the region, and even got them back to the state title game where they fell short. Hell of a coach and even better guy. Edison once again didn't follow his lead and hire within when it came to his predecesor and look what happened. Back in the sinkhole.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
judds
()
Date: March 04, 2013 01:21PM
Zippy Wrote:
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> Pannoni at South County.
Crazy-one winning season at Lee, then took loaded team at WTW and ran it into ground second year and his grand achievement. Only coach ever to not win at Centreville. Follow up by taking Bendorf players and winning with them. Shady as can be, remember the supsension at Lee for illegal practice?
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> Pannoni at South County.
Crazy-one winning season at Lee, then took loaded team at WTW and ran it into ground second year and his grand achievement. Only coach ever to not win at Centreville. Follow up by taking Bendorf players and winning with them. Shady as can be, remember the supsension at Lee for illegal practice?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JustaCoach
()
Date: March 05, 2013 11:53AM
IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration after another emotional loss to a team from the Beach in the state finals. It may have involved a State runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a suspension or more but settled with SB admin on a quiet fine...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
2001_player
()
Date: March 05, 2013 06:54PM
JustaCoach Wrote:
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> IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration after
> another emotional loss to a team from the Beach in
> the state finals. It may have involved a State
> runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> suspension or more but settled with SB admin on a
> quiet fine...
They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.
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> IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration after
> another emotional loss to a team from the Beach in
> the state finals. It may have involved a State
> runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> suspension or more but settled with SB admin on a
> quiet fine...
They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
GridIron1
()
Date: March 05, 2013 09:58PM
Yorktown Wrote:
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> Yorktown never has to play anybody that's why.
> That will change now that they are d6. If they
> continue to win he will get a ton of respect. He
> is respected as a coach but he is thought of as an
> ass.
Yorktown was decent this year for D5. In playoffs, I saw them wax SoCo, which got 2nd in the Patriot. Small and no depth but good speed. I could see why WaPo ranked them. Concorde teams have way more depth, I guess from enrollments, feeder programs and tradition. It will be tough for Yorktown to win in the new system but Stewart (all met RB) will be worth watching again.
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> Yorktown never has to play anybody that's why.
> That will change now that they are d6. If they
> continue to win he will get a ton of respect. He
> is respected as a coach but he is thought of as an
> ass.
Yorktown was decent this year for D5. In playoffs, I saw them wax SoCo, which got 2nd in the Patriot. Small and no depth but good speed. I could see why WaPo ranked them. Concorde teams have way more depth, I guess from enrollments, feeder programs and tradition. It will be tough for Yorktown to win in the new system but Stewart (all met RB) will be worth watching again.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: March 06, 2013 10:08AM
2001_player Wrote:
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> JustaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration
> after
> > another emotional loss to a team from the Beach
> in
> > the state finals. It may have involved a State
> > runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> > suspension or more but settled with SB admin on
> a
> > quiet fine...
>
>
> They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.
They actually burned the Thompson Cup!?!?! What is wrong with people.
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> JustaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration
> after
> > another emotional loss to a team from the Beach
> in
> > the state finals. It may have involved a State
> > runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> > suspension or more but settled with SB admin on
> a
> > quiet fine...
>
>
> They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.
They actually burned the Thompson Cup!?!?! What is wrong with people.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BR Football
()
Date: March 07, 2013 09:13AM
2001_player Wrote:
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> JustaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration
> after
> > another emotional loss to a team from the Beach
> in
> > the state finals. It may have involved a State
> > runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> > suspension or more but settled with SB admin on
> a
> > quiet fine...
>
>
> They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.
Not a Big Deal?? You must be a Thompson fan then. What kind of an example of Sportsmanship is this from the Head Coach of your football team. I can see it now "Gentleman congratulations on a great year and a great effort today.... Here is the State Runner Up Trophy". Fuck that! we didn't come here for second... In fact where's the trash can, here's how much I care about second place.
I wonder if he did it before or after the press conference? I would love to see his responses to his teams year now knowing he burned the trophy. What a Fucking Loser. Of course the SB admin sounds like they tried to cover it up as best they could. YEA what a leader and example of young men.
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> JustaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration
> after
> > another emotional loss to a team from the Beach
> in
> > the state finals. It may have involved a State
> > runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> > suspension or more but settled with SB admin on
> a
> > quiet fine...
>
>
> They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.
Not a Big Deal?? You must be a Thompson fan then. What kind of an example of Sportsmanship is this from the Head Coach of your football team. I can see it now "Gentleman congratulations on a great year and a great effort today.... Here is the State Runner Up Trophy". Fuck that! we didn't come here for second... In fact where's the trash can, here's how much I care about second place.
I wonder if he did it before or after the press conference? I would love to see his responses to his teams year now knowing he burned the trophy. What a Fucking Loser. Of course the SB admin sounds like they tried to cover it up as best they could. YEA what a leader and example of young men.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
slubdawg
()
Date: March 07, 2013 01:52PM
This may be a sacrilege to post on a football forum, but I recall a similar incident by the TJ band director quite a few years ago (over 20 at least). The TJ band was in some kind of marching band competition and had won 1st place for a number of years. So this one particular year they came in second, so when the band director went out and accepted the 2nd place trophy, in front of everyone, he walked over to a trash can and threw the trophy in the trash saying something like "TJ doesn't come in second" It blew up into a huge deal, reported in papers and news all over the country. I heard that the principal was getting calls from as far away as the west coast.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh really
()
Date: March 07, 2013 02:01PM
slubdawg Wrote:
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> This may be a sacrilege to post on a football
> forum, but I recall a similar incident by the TJ
> band director quite a few years ago (over 20 at
> least). The TJ band was in some kind of marching
> band competition and had won 1st place for a
> number of years. So this one particular year they
> came in second, so when the band director went out
> and accepted the 2nd place trophy, in front of
> everyone, he walked over to a trash can and threw
> the trophy in the trash saying something like "TJ
> doesn't come in second" It blew up into a huge
> deal, reported in papers and news all over the
> country. I heard that the principal was getting
> calls from as far away as the west coast.
Yeah, but Stone Bridge needs to come in first for a number of years in order for the stories to be comparible.
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> This may be a sacrilege to post on a football
> forum, but I recall a similar incident by the TJ
> band director quite a few years ago (over 20 at
> least). The TJ band was in some kind of marching
> band competition and had won 1st place for a
> number of years. So this one particular year they
> came in second, so when the band director went out
> and accepted the 2nd place trophy, in front of
> everyone, he walked over to a trash can and threw
> the trophy in the trash saying something like "TJ
> doesn't come in second" It blew up into a huge
> deal, reported in papers and news all over the
> country. I heard that the principal was getting
> calls from as far away as the west coast.
Yeah, but Stone Bridge needs to come in first for a number of years in order for the stories to be comparible.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concerned Parent...
()
Date: March 08, 2013 03:28PM
Who is the worst coach in the northern region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
easy
()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:17PM
Concerned Parent
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RGIV
()
Date: March 10, 2013 03:59PM
Concerned Parent... Wrote:
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> Who is the worst coach in the northern region?
I am guessing you want everyone to say the Coach who is not playing your kid?
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> Who is the worst coach in the northern region?
I am guessing you want everyone to say the Coach who is not playing your kid?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
d1
()
Date: March 10, 2013 07:44PM
ROBO FOR STATES 2013
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillebacker
()
Date: March 13, 2013 07:26AM
The Green Days are coming up and I know some kids will use these as opportunities to showcase their skills for College coaches. Anyone know the schedules of some of the local schools?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VA ref
()
Date: March 13, 2013 10:44AM
All HS are allowed X number of green days to use whenever they like except during planned VHSL wide down periods.Schedule is up to individual schools
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NVfootballfan
()
Date: March 15, 2013 04:18PM
What teams are in the new "North" portion of the football reclassification? I heard that the "South" actually includes Hylton and all the Woodbridge / Garfield teams, is this true?
If it is, the "South" would include the Tidewater area, Richmond area and most of the old Northwest Region.
If it is, the "South" would include the Tidewater area, Richmond area and most of the old Northwest Region.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: March 15, 2013 05:11PM
Alignment - 2013-15
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%2033-final-adopted-conference-alignment-plan-for-2013-14-and-2014-15.pdf
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%2033-final-adopted-conference-alignment-plan-for-2013-14-and-2014-15.pdf
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
true or false
()
Date: March 17, 2013 02:09PM
Hearing some rumors from pretty valid sources that dan meier will become the new robinson head coach after he announces his retirement from principal. anybody else hearing this as well? makes sense since they still have yet to hire a head coach
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robinson Parent
()
Date: March 17, 2013 07:07PM
The whole things stinks it's all about the coaches and their egos not the kids
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robinson Parent
()
Date: March 17, 2013 07:10PM
This sucks! Why didn't they hire Coach Vossler or Coach Matthie?
There going to hire an old guy who will likely retire in 3 years anyways.
Wow.
There going to hire an old guy who will likely retire in 3 years anyways.
Wow.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Robinson Parent 2
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:08AM
I cannot believe that FCPS could allow somebody to fire a coach and then take the position himself. That seems absurd.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tt
()
Date: March 18, 2013 12:07PM
I can't believe FCPS allowed trey Taylor to coach high school football. Meier would be the best thing for this program to recover after it was torn down by trey
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
0LSKQQL Coach
()
Date: March 18, 2013 03:46PM
Haddock is still waiting for his "Dream Job" at Chantilly to open 2014.
Bendorf & Everett will have the stingiest defense in the region this season by way of Westfield.
Oakton might be 4-6 this year with a lot of luck.
Herndon will upset some folks this year.
Robinson is waiting on a principal to be hired first.
and those other teams that were D5 last year with the exception of SC will be crushed in post season play when they face the weakest CONCORDE team !!
Bendorf & Everett will have the stingiest defense in the region this season by way of Westfield.
Oakton might be 4-6 this year with a lot of luck.
Herndon will upset some folks this year.
Robinson is waiting on a principal to be hired first.
and those other teams that were D5 last year with the exception of SC will be crushed in post season play when they face the weakest CONCORDE team !!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde fan
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:16AM
Centreville will win the concorde followed by Chantilly,Robinson,Westfield,Oakton,Herndon
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
easternregion
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:29PM
In the northern region, what are the most run offensive and defensive schemes? Who has the most success with what?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....
()
Date: March 22, 2013 04:59PM
It is wide open in fairfax county.
On O Teams run spread, wing t, zone, power, option, air raid, single wing, superpower, I, and the lst goes on.
D is the same. Teams run 43, 44,42,52, 335, 34, 353, all with zone and man packages.
The best examples for O: westfield is a zone team. Centreville is wing t, Oakton is spread option, and Braddock is spread w some air raid.
On O Teams run spread, wing t, zone, power, option, air raid, single wing, superpower, I, and the lst goes on.
D is the same. Teams run 43, 44,42,52, 335, 34, 353, all with zone and man packages.
The best examples for O: westfield is a zone team. Centreville is wing t, Oakton is spread option, and Braddock is spread w some air raid.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
region vet
()
Date: March 24, 2013 11:17AM
Braddock isnt air raid. they run everything!
Not sure i would call the region wide open. there is a little variation, but it stays pretty conservative on both sides of the ball at the top.
Not sure i would call the region wide open. there is a little variation, but it stays pretty conservative on both sides of the ball at the top.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
curious nova
()
Date: March 24, 2013 12:40PM
Where are some of the Northern region class of 2013 players, playing next year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...
()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:09PM
I have been watching Braddock for a few years now. They are mostly 3,4,or 5 wide and throw short passes to the slots. That's an air raid offense. Very similar to Houston or Leech's Texas Tech. It was Renner ran at west Springfield. They do run some, but nobody would call them a running team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CoachConcorde
()
Date: March 25, 2013 02:51PM
Tt Wrote:
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> I can't believe FCPS allowed trey Taylor to coach
> high school football. Meier would be the best
> thing for this program to recover after it was
> torn down by trey
There is no way Meir will be coaching this team, at least what is left of it. Word is any players are on the way out or already gone. This is a gigantic screwup to make them wait this long for a coach and probably miss Green Days and the opportunity to install the new Coaches systems.
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> I can't believe FCPS allowed trey Taylor to coach
> high school football. Meier would be the best
> thing for this program to recover after it was
> torn down by trey
There is no way Meir will be coaching this team, at least what is left of it. Word is any players are on the way out or already gone. This is a gigantic screwup to make them wait this long for a coach and probably miss Green Days and the opportunity to install the new Coaches systems.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NVfootballfan
()
Date: March 27, 2013 11:57PM
Who is LB Coach Proythress recruiting this year? With Robinson in disarray is he plucking anyone from there? Any new info on where kids maybe transferring to? Last thing I heard Wilson was gone from Robinson.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheEar
()
Date: April 03, 2013 10:14PM
Heard that Wilson is not playing due to bad grades and that Poythress snatched Peirson El away from west pot.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
False
()
Date: April 04, 2013 07:56AM
Bad grades keeping Wilson from playing? VIA his parents? Please elaborate your rumor because academic eligibility for the fall is based on second semester. 3rd quarter is not even over. So either you’re a troll or an idiot, you choose.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheEar
()
Date: April 04, 2013 08:09PM
Thats just what I heard idk the details, so since no one denied Peirson El's transfer to LB it must be true.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
You keep thinking that
()
Date: April 07, 2013 01:35AM
Pierson-el isn't going anywhere. Why would he want to go someplace and take a backseat to the QB? Sure, he could move to receiver, one of FIVE! Why would he want less of a spotlight than what he'll get at West Potomac?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Rex ryan
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:08PM
The robinson coaching staff will probally make amir ebrahimi as their new coach! Hes a very good coach and has expireience! Expect robinson to be good this upcoming year!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What are you talking about
()
Date: April 08, 2013 12:43PM
Joe Wilson would get better grades if he didn't ditch school so often. Robinson gives him a pass on his bad behavior..Coach Taylor treated him like a diva.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Rex ryan
()
Date: April 08, 2013 06:51PM
Again amir ebrahimi will be the new coach! Just a tip! He has already been hired! And i talked to him and he said he will not tolerate bad grades!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Why would he want to go there?!
()
Date: April 08, 2013 08:24PM
Well i believe that a freak athlete receiver/running back would transfer to lb considering that lb has enough talent to make it to states and one of the top qb's in the nation, if anything he would get more looks by making a Pierson-El Henderson combo that would put him right in the spotlight, and just cause they run 5 wide doesnt mean that they wont just throw the ball to him 20 times a game. Plus Pierson-El only chance to make it big is at receiver, so lb would be the right move. But that doesnt mean he is going there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Falls Church patron
()
Date: April 13, 2013 07:24PM
Watch out for Falls Church this year, they have some great returning talent on both sides of the ball. The offense is led by WR Jordan Coneys, who was 1st team all district and 2nd team all region as a jr, Sophomore Will Mejia was national district utility POY. Qb Adam Daly and RB Dieon Dupont are both very good players. The defense is led by stud all district DE/LB Fabrice Mulumba who is recieving a lot of college interest and is probably the most disruptive returning defensive player in the district. Falls Church has always had great athletes, especially in recent memory with the 09-10 team led by Marcus Hughes, Patrick Williams and Kevin Mulumba. But every season it seems to be the same story and as an alumn it breaks my heart because the players, students, and community of FC deserve more. My point being; All these kids are going to be 3 year starters and can bring the prideful Falls Church community a playoff berth.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Slow down
()
Date: April 13, 2013 07:28PM
They will suck again!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
IDGAF
()
Date: April 13, 2013 07:54PM
Not buying it either. I'll admit Falls Church has good individual players each season, but this discussion is had every year and the team as a whole is never good.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RamDad
()
Date: April 14, 2013 12:36AM
Dan Meier was just named Interim Head Coach at Robinson.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: April 15, 2013 10:46AM
RamDad Wrote:
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> Dan Meier was just named Interim Head Coach at
> Robinson.
Does it really matter who the Coach is? The cupboard is bare at Robinson. It is kind of funny that this guy fires the Head Coach and then retires and takes the job. Sounds like there were quite a few folks on here who saw this coming!
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> Dan Meier was just named Interim Head Coach at
> Robinson.
Does it really matter who the Coach is? The cupboard is bare at Robinson. It is kind of funny that this guy fires the Head Coach and then retires and takes the job. Sounds like there were quite a few folks on here who saw this coming!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram2007
()
Date: April 15, 2013 01:36PM
Ya, this plan was hatched awhile ago. Meier most definitely has the best resume but the way this went down is sleezy. I can't believe that the county is willing to deal with the negative PR over this. Meier will be successful next year. The team returns quite a bit of talent. In fact most coaches would win 7-8 games with this team. It shocks me that Robinson/Meier don't think that people can connect the dots.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VAFootballfan
()
Date: April 23, 2013 11:46AM
When do the Spring Practices for local High Schools begin? Do they run them like College Spring Practices (so many days allowed in a set amount of time?) Are they allowed to be in pads? Can anyone come watch?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
aleert-pedos
()
Date: April 23, 2013 03:43PM
VAFootballfan Wrote:
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> When do the Spring Practices for local High
> Schools begin? Do they run them like College
> Spring Practices (so many days allowed in a set
> amount of time?) Are they allowed to be in pads?
> Can anyone come watch?
^^^This is a pedophile post, no doubt.
You going out to watch the sweaty boys? Hmmmmmmm?
Most of the posts on this thread are pedo-men who likey the boys
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> When do the Spring Practices for local High
> Schools begin? Do they run them like College
> Spring Practices (so many days allowed in a set
> amount of time?) Are they allowed to be in pads?
> Can anyone come watch?
^^^This is a pedophile post, no doubt.
You going out to watch the sweaty boys? Hmmmmmmm?
Most of the posts on this thread are pedo-men who likey the boys
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
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Date: June 10, 2013 07:16AM
So much fun looking forward to football at West Springfield. 4 years of driving a program in the ground followed by hiring the basketball coach as football coach. Could not find anyone to take the football job because football has been trashed by the previous 'coach'. And no one wants to work with a clown athletic director. It is nice watching all the area teams compete in regionals this Spring while WS has nothing. But the AD will still get paid and keep his job. No accountability- just an old boy's network that is more concerned with protecting each other than results. From the cheating principal on down- WS is rotten from the top. Academics and discipline are getting hammered worse than sports, but who cares? The admins are getting paid and having fun.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanpride
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Date: June 10, 2013 07:56AM
I find it quite sad that some people don't understand what is really important in life. Before trashing WS's academics and/or athletics, lets remember one thing. The school/athletic dept just lost an amazing young man that brought this community together in an astounding way. As an alumnus of WS, I followed the progress of what Jordan's diagnosis did to the students and athletes at the school. They came together when one of their family members was battling a very serious disease. To see how the community came together through this shows the REAL meaning of WS and what it means to be a Spartan. Its not the wins and losses on the football field...bc in my opinion, seeing how they came together over the last year....they all won in the end! While I understand full the importance of winning on the field (especially in Northern Va), these kids will take MUCH MORE from the experience that Jordan brought them. Congrats to WS as a school, as an athletic department and as the family that they are!! Parents that are worried about the wrong things only miss out in seeing the real importance of life lessons. Blessings to all. Even the parents that will still not see the point in anything that I said.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football camper
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Date: June 12, 2013 09:50PM
Been watching West Springfields new head coach and staff the past few days at a team camp. What a joke. They have no clue what they are doing. The HC is always down on players. Openly making fun of them, screaming at them, and insulting them. Today he called a group of kids a bunch of donkeys. It is going to be a long year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bill Renner
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Date: June 12, 2013 11:34PM
WS will go 1-9 this season. They need Howells.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Howells fan
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Date: June 12, 2013 11:52PM
Bring him on. WS needs a high calibar coach like Howells. He'll teach great football and win games. We was unappreciated at faifax, with those clown coaches on the varsity staff.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
josscofield
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Date: June 13, 2013 03:23AM
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Are the teams which are going to take away from each and everyone for sure...
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Lake Braddock
Are the teams which are going to take away from each and everyone for sure...
http://www.worldshottestdrivers.com/shop-s/37.htm
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yowza
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Date: June 13, 2013 09:05PM
I have heard that several Concorde teams have rising seniors that are being recruited by Div I schools. Can anyone confirm? Other than Martey at Cville and Wilson at Robinson, what Class of 2014 Concorde players are even remotely Divison I material?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
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Date: June 21, 2013 09:51AM
Spartanpride-
What does pointing out what a joke WS sports are due to their clueless DSS and equally inept principal have to do with Jordan? Jordan will be an inspiration to all who knew him for the rest of their lives. It was a heartbreaking experience watching him deal with his illness. Through it all he was always upbeat in conversations. Not sure why you would tie the two together.
BTW- wins and losses are a small part of the equation- the WS athletic dept is failing to teach kids that effort, performance and pride matter in competition. They do not strive to get the best coaches ( they could not anyway), they do not instill a sense of pride in the teams, and they do not hold kids accountable. Other than that they are doing a great job. It remains to be seen if the only guy they could find to take the football job will work out. But his enthusiasm alone makes him a step up from the past. Why the previous babysitter was allowed to stay for 4 years is a testament to the old boys network in FCPS.
What does pointing out what a joke WS sports are due to their clueless DSS and equally inept principal have to do with Jordan? Jordan will be an inspiration to all who knew him for the rest of their lives. It was a heartbreaking experience watching him deal with his illness. Through it all he was always upbeat in conversations. Not sure why you would tie the two together.
BTW- wins and losses are a small part of the equation- the WS athletic dept is failing to teach kids that effort, performance and pride matter in competition. They do not strive to get the best coaches ( they could not anyway), they do not instill a sense of pride in the teams, and they do not hold kids accountable. Other than that they are doing a great job. It remains to be seen if the only guy they could find to take the football job will work out. But his enthusiasm alone makes him a step up from the past. Why the previous babysitter was allowed to stay for 4 years is a testament to the old boys network in FCPS.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
National District
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Date: June 21, 2013 07:53PM
Whatever happened to Mount Vernon? They had a good run in the late 1990s under Coach Riddle and the early 2000s, and they haven't been heard from since. What gives??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
King Me
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Date: June 25, 2013 09:56AM
It's not that Mount Vernon is a bad team or anything (they usually a pretty athletic team, by the way), its just that more teams have been on the rise in the area in the past years. Teams like Westfield, Stone Bridge, Centreville, Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson and Lake Braddock are the usual powerhouses that go to regionals or states. One of the main reasons (or two) these schools due well is that they have a bigger enrollment than Mount Vernon or that fact those kids have been playing football with each since they were very young (i.e. playing together in little league football). Since Mount Vernon is in Division 5, they had to worry about teams like Stone Bridge, Hayfield (now in d6), South County (d6 now), Yorktown (d6 now), Langley (d6 now) and Madison (d6 now) because they usually go make it to the d5 playoffs.
2008 was one of the last years that Mount Vernon was really good. They finished 8-2 in the regular season and were runner-ups in the National district to the Edison Eagles. They even made it to the semi finals in the d5 playoffs that year before getting beat by Stone Bridge.
2008 was one of the last years that Mount Vernon was really good. They finished 8-2 in the regular season and were runner-ups in the National district to the Edison Eagles. They even made it to the semi finals in the d5 playoffs that year before getting beat by Stone Bridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
old school
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Date: June 26, 2013 01:17AM
Mount Vernon won states back in my day lol not saying my age.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RamJam
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Date: June 26, 2013 09:26PM
So how do y'all think Langley's going to do? They took a step forward last season by winning their first playoff game in awhile, but most of their talent were seniors. They still have some studs on defense and I'm expecting big things from Kevin Fisher. Nick Casso has also taken steps into becoming a top 3 qb in the district. And Because of Coach Howerton it can be expected that they'll have a decent line so if they can get a running game going then it might be tough to stop them down the stretch. Their schedule is bottom heavy which is a plus, I can potentially see them going 7-3. My money is on them being the dark horse this season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Phantom
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Date: June 26, 2013 09:48PM
Dark Horse in the Liberty will be South Lakes. They return more than any other team in the district. If they find a QB, they'll be dangerous.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
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Date: June 27, 2013 02:31PM
If Westfield finds a QB to replace last years starter, it will be them again.The question will be can they seal the deal in the Region finals.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat
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Date: June 27, 2013 02:55PM
Have we all forgot about Centreville? They will not lose a game this year!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ricky
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Date: July 01, 2013 06:35PM
Oakton should be in the mix, their defense will be solid, and their offense will be bolstered by some transfers at the skill positions.
But I have to agree that Cville will be the class of the Northern Region
But I have to agree that Cville will be the class of the Northern Region
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HSfootball
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Date: July 17, 2013 11:32PM
Centreville will win 6A North. who knows if they win the state, but they clearly are the class of the region. And for the people who have no idea about the realignment, gameday has a good article about it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Man1965
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Date: July 28, 2013 11:22PM
Madison will go 8-2, fact.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Peacebird
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Date: August 12, 2013 03:40PM
The Man1965 Wrote:
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> Madison will go 8-2, fact.
Are you serious? Madison HS is now playing with the Big Boys and will get abused. Welcome to 6A football Warhawks, instead of just playing Oakton every year and getting Bitch slapped. You get to play the rest of the Concorde and get gang raped! Plan in the next few years playing about 3-4 Homecoming games for the Westfields, Centrevilles and Robinsons of the world. Bye Bye 5A football schedule, hello pain and suffering in the 6A world.
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> Madison will go 8-2, fact.
Are you serious? Madison HS is now playing with the Big Boys and will get abused. Welcome to 6A football Warhawks, instead of just playing Oakton every year and getting Bitch slapped. You get to play the rest of the Concorde and get gang raped! Plan in the next few years playing about 3-4 Homecoming games for the Westfields, Centrevilles and Robinsons of the world. Bye Bye 5A football schedule, hello pain and suffering in the 6A world.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LAcner LOL
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Date: August 18, 2013 01:47PM
Any chance we will ever hear from the Robert E. Lee Lancers ever again? Moved down to 5A but will still remain a terrible team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Carlos
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Date: August 19, 2013 03:14AM
You want a darkhorse? Watch out for TC Williams. They are going to have a good defense and if their offense can avoid the mistakes that usually plague them, they have enough athletes in the skill positions to make it interesting. They have the two best DTs in the area and a very active linebacking corps.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
al bundy
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Date: August 19, 2013 07:42AM
You know, I know someone who was sooooo gung ho about highschool football. He played it, he coached it after highschool, he even mentioned it in his memory lane during a highschool reunion. Do you know what he does now?????
HE WORKS FOR THE TSA, LOL!!!!!!!!
HE WORKS FOR THE TSA, LOL!!!!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fball4ever
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Date: August 19, 2013 08:20AM
al bundy Wrote:
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> You know, I know someone who was sooooo gung ho
> about highschool football. He played it, he
> coached it after highschool, he even mentioned it
> in his memory lane during a highschool reunion.
> Do you know what he does now?????
>
>
> HE WORKS FOR THE TSA, LOL!!!!!!!!
What's really funny is you are still bat shit scared of the guy and worried that he might find out you posted this about him!!........ NOW THATS FUNNY!
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> You know, I know someone who was sooooo gung ho
> about highschool football. He played it, he
> coached it after highschool, he even mentioned it
> in his memory lane during a highschool reunion.
> Do you know what he does now?????
>
>
> HE WORKS FOR THE TSA, LOL!!!!!!!!
What's really funny is you are still bat shit scared of the guy and worried that he might find out you posted this about him!!........ NOW THATS FUNNY!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVABall
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Date: August 19, 2013 11:53AM
Went to the Oakton vs. Hylton scrimmage at Madison HS last week. Oakton looked terrible and Hylton looked in midseason form. Hylton's starters scored on their first two possessions with ease mixing up the run with the passing game. The Oakton D-Line was very small compared to Hylton's O-Line and they were getting blown off the ball most of the game. On offense Oakton's QB was being forced to roll out of the pocket causing him to throw some awful looking passes. He was sacked three times in the first half. Oakton's O-Line couldn't stop Hylton's massive D-line from pushing them back, freeing up linebackers and safeties to make big plays. Oakton has one kid at runningback/fullback (#1) who will be their main threat this fall. He didn't have much running room at all that night and I think his biggest run came against second stringers on a fullback dive. Oakton only crossed the 50 three times the whole scrimmage and their drives all stalled after that. From talking with people there in the stands the final was Hylton 49 and Oakton 0.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
monster dot com
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Date: August 19, 2013 11:55AM
Zerin, Vector, Cutco, TSA, all places where former jocks and cheerleaders end up.
Even Target won't take them. Former jocks steal food from fast food places so they can't work there either.
Even Target won't take them. Former jocks steal food from fast food places so they can't work there either.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVABall
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Date: August 19, 2013 07:34PM
Saw Oakton scrimmage last week and their defense didn't look good at all. Their line was slow and their secondary couldn't cover anyone. Their offense looked even worst and it looks like Downer's replacement has his work cut out for him. I don't look for them to have more than a 5-5 record at best.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Trayvonmartin
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Date: August 19, 2013 07:43PM
"You want a darkhorse"
That's RACIST!
That's RACIST!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
try again
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Date: August 19, 2013 10:03PM
NOVABall Wrote:
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> Went to the Oakton vs. Hylton scrimmage at Madison
> HS last week. Oakton looked terrible and Hylton
> looked in midseason form. Hylton's starters scored
> on their first two possessions with ease mixing up
> the run with the passing game. The Oakton D-Line
> was very small compared to Hylton's O-Line and
> they were getting blown off the ball most of the
> game. On offense Oakton's QB was being forced to
> roll out of the pocket causing him to throw some
> awful looking passes. He was sacked three times in
> the first half. Oakton's O-Line couldn't stop
> Hylton's massive D-line from pushing them back,
> freeing up linebackers and safeties to make big
> plays. Oakton has one kid at runningback/fullback
> (#1) who will be their main threat this fall. He
> didn't have much running room at all that night
> and I think his biggest run came against second
> stringers on a fullback dive. Oakton only crossed
> the 50 three times the whole scrimmage and their
> drives all stalled after that. From talking with
> people there in the stands the final was Hylton 49
> and Oakton 0.
Let's fix about half of what you stated on here (and the other thread too, which points out that you are either a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or LB fan). Yes Hylton whipped up on Oakton (they looked very sharp actually) and Oakton did not have a good showing. Hylton is a legit preseason state championship contender in 6A and every coach knows it. Their team (which is roughly the same as last year) clearly outsized an Oakton team that had to almost replace their entire offense and was missing two defensive starters. Now even if Oakton played well on both sides of the ball I still think Hylton would have beaten them soundly. Now the score was nowhere near 49-0, the score at half was something in the neighborhood of 20-0 which had both teams running their 1st teams at full speed, and the third quarter was a start of putting in backups and the 4th quarter was both sides JV teams it looked like. The final score would have probably been 32-0 or around that mark. Remember that last year Oakton scrimmaged Hylton and the score was actually worse last year than it was this year yet both teams reached state playoffs in their respective regions. Oakton should perform better and yes their defense is a lot better than they showed. 5-5 will not happen, I would say 3 losses for them on the season with another strong playoff performance. Remember everyone said they were a joke going into the playoffs and look what happened.
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> Went to the Oakton vs. Hylton scrimmage at Madison
> HS last week. Oakton looked terrible and Hylton
> looked in midseason form. Hylton's starters scored
> on their first two possessions with ease mixing up
> the run with the passing game. The Oakton D-Line
> was very small compared to Hylton's O-Line and
> they were getting blown off the ball most of the
> game. On offense Oakton's QB was being forced to
> roll out of the pocket causing him to throw some
> awful looking passes. He was sacked three times in
> the first half. Oakton's O-Line couldn't stop
> Hylton's massive D-line from pushing them back,
> freeing up linebackers and safeties to make big
> plays. Oakton has one kid at runningback/fullback
> (#1) who will be their main threat this fall. He
> didn't have much running room at all that night
> and I think his biggest run came against second
> stringers on a fullback dive. Oakton only crossed
> the 50 three times the whole scrimmage and their
> drives all stalled after that. From talking with
> people there in the stands the final was Hylton 49
> and Oakton 0.
Let's fix about half of what you stated on here (and the other thread too, which points out that you are either a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or LB fan). Yes Hylton whipped up on Oakton (they looked very sharp actually) and Oakton did not have a good showing. Hylton is a legit preseason state championship contender in 6A and every coach knows it. Their team (which is roughly the same as last year) clearly outsized an Oakton team that had to almost replace their entire offense and was missing two defensive starters. Now even if Oakton played well on both sides of the ball I still think Hylton would have beaten them soundly. Now the score was nowhere near 49-0, the score at half was something in the neighborhood of 20-0 which had both teams running their 1st teams at full speed, and the third quarter was a start of putting in backups and the 4th quarter was both sides JV teams it looked like. The final score would have probably been 32-0 or around that mark. Remember that last year Oakton scrimmaged Hylton and the score was actually worse last year than it was this year yet both teams reached state playoffs in their respective regions. Oakton should perform better and yes their defense is a lot better than they showed. 5-5 will not happen, I would say 3 losses for them on the season with another strong playoff performance. Remember everyone said they were a joke going into the playoffs and look what happened.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVABall
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Date: August 20, 2013 08:31AM
Well, you got the first half correct, Hylton was up 20-0. I watched the film yesterday online and this is how the scoring happened for Hylton.
#2 pass to #14 - PAT missed
#2 pass to #7 - PAT good
#2 pass to #1 - PAT good
For the second half Hylton scored three more times with all three scores coming in the 4th quarter.
#2 run - PAT good
#20 run - PAT good
#24 run - PAT good
Final 48-0...so I was one point off.
I'm not a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or LB fan. I actually take offense to the LB comment because I dont like Eric Henderson and Jim Poythress couldn't coach his way out of a box when he was at Gar-field. My kids play around the area and we go to games a lot. I was making an very good observation on what I saw and that is Oakton isn't that good. I saw more from them last season with their scrimmages than this season. Losing Kyle Downer really hurts and this new kid has his work cut out for him. So, maybe you're right and 5-5 is a stretch...but then again do you honestly think they can beat West Potomac, Chantilly, Centreville, Robinson or Westfield with what happened last week.
#2 pass to #14 - PAT missed
#2 pass to #7 - PAT good
#2 pass to #1 - PAT good
For the second half Hylton scored three more times with all three scores coming in the 4th quarter.
#2 run - PAT good
#20 run - PAT good
#24 run - PAT good
Final 48-0...so I was one point off.
I'm not a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or LB fan. I actually take offense to the LB comment because I dont like Eric Henderson and Jim Poythress couldn't coach his way out of a box when he was at Gar-field. My kids play around the area and we go to games a lot. I was making an very good observation on what I saw and that is Oakton isn't that good. I saw more from them last season with their scrimmages than this season. Losing Kyle Downer really hurts and this new kid has his work cut out for him. So, maybe you're right and 5-5 is a stretch...but then again do you honestly think they can beat West Potomac, Chantilly, Centreville, Robinson or Westfield with what happened last week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVABall
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Date: August 20, 2013 08:32AM
Score correction 41-0...so I was 8 points off. I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
try again
()
Date: August 20, 2013 04:35PM
NOVABall Wrote:
> For the second half Hylton scored three more times
> with all three scores coming in the 4th quarter.
>
> #2 run - PAT good
> #20 run - PAT good
> #24 run - PAT good
> I'm not a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or
> LB fan. I actually take offense to the LB comment
> because I dont like Eric Henderson and Jim
> Poythress couldn't coach his way out of a box when
> he was at Gar-field. My kids play around the area
> and we go to games a lot. I was making an very
> good observation on what I saw and that is Oakton
> isn't that good. I saw more from them last season
> with their scrimmages than this season. Losing
> Kyle Downer really hurts and this new kid has his
> work cut out for him. So, maybe you're right and
> 5-5 is a stretch...but then again do you honestly
> think they can beat West Potomac, Chantilly,
> Centreville, Robinson or Westfield with what
> happened last week.
Technically, the starters played a 20-0 game (35-0 last year). Hylton did leave the big boys in until the end of the 3rd quarter. Oakton's defense is better than what they showed and the offense was not clicking at all, so yes let's agree there. I really think Hylton will make it to the show this year, but winning it is another story that I won't predict as Ocean Lakes, Centreville and Oscar Smith will probably stand in the way.
Glad to hear you aren't any of the names I mentioned and I actually respect you more for the LB comment!!! Robinson will be a close game as will Chantilly (split those so 1-1). West Pot should honestly be a win for Oakton even with Pierson-el. I will chalk up Westfield and Centreville as losses during the season. This is how I came to my conclusion of 3 losses. You're observation is good in points, but missing some details still in regards to when points were scored (4th quarter was all JV kids or backups so let's squash that whole quarter), Oakton was missing some players (not an excuse just stating fact), and it was the first time the offense had really worked against another opponent together (9/10 new starters compared to last year's championship team). Look for Oakton to have a much better showing during the season.
> For the second half Hylton scored three more times
> with all three scores coming in the 4th quarter.
>
> #2 run - PAT good
> #20 run - PAT good
> #24 run - PAT good
> I'm not a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or
> LB fan. I actually take offense to the LB comment
> because I dont like Eric Henderson and Jim
> Poythress couldn't coach his way out of a box when
> he was at Gar-field. My kids play around the area
> and we go to games a lot. I was making an very
> good observation on what I saw and that is Oakton
> isn't that good. I saw more from them last season
> with their scrimmages than this season. Losing
> Kyle Downer really hurts and this new kid has his
> work cut out for him. So, maybe you're right and
> 5-5 is a stretch...but then again do you honestly
> think they can beat West Potomac, Chantilly,
> Centreville, Robinson or Westfield with what
> happened last week.
Technically, the starters played a 20-0 game (35-0 last year). Hylton did leave the big boys in until the end of the 3rd quarter. Oakton's defense is better than what they showed and the offense was not clicking at all, so yes let's agree there. I really think Hylton will make it to the show this year, but winning it is another story that I won't predict as Ocean Lakes, Centreville and Oscar Smith will probably stand in the way.
Glad to hear you aren't any of the names I mentioned and I actually respect you more for the LB comment!!! Robinson will be a close game as will Chantilly (split those so 1-1). West Pot should honestly be a win for Oakton even with Pierson-el. I will chalk up Westfield and Centreville as losses during the season. This is how I came to my conclusion of 3 losses. You're observation is good in points, but missing some details still in regards to when points were scored (4th quarter was all JV kids or backups so let's squash that whole quarter), Oakton was missing some players (not an excuse just stating fact), and it was the first time the offense had really worked against another opponent together (9/10 new starters compared to last year's championship team). Look for Oakton to have a much better showing during the season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hell is for helicopters
()
Date: August 20, 2013 04:51PM
Why aren't you boosters out there working overtime to defend the turf fields? Heads will roll over this, and turf will not. Who did the school board think it was dealing with? That study is a joke and probably constitutes fraud.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OHSCougar
()
Date: August 20, 2013 06:41PM
You are absolutely right, Oakton did not look very good at all the other night - in fact, they were awful. And since I was at both games I can assure you they looked about as bad as they did when they scrimmaged Hylton last year - just pathetic. I actually thought this years score was 70 to 6, with the lone OHS score coming from the cheerleader taking a snap near the end of the night and taking it to the house. It just goes to show you that 2013 will be as difficult a year for the Cougars as 2012 was.
Or perhaps this year will be different:
1. C'ville might live up to all their preseason 2012/2013/2014... hype and go undefeated while playing eleven super-star 8th graders both way (last year they did indeed slap OHS silly in the first game only to have their dreams crushed in the rubber-match);
2. Westfield might not be able go three deep at every position and their players could actually stop their foul-mouth trash talking and just play football (last year their undefeated run ended in their rubber-match with OHS);
3. Robinson might return to their past glory (ehh... sorry, no need for a rubber-match last year);
4. Chantilly could stop believing that playing on a dominating 110 lbs CYA youth team automatically translates into D1 talent and HS championships (I sooo wished there was a rubber-match last year!);
5. And LB might dress out more then five players that live in their schools district (OHS coaches did enjoy feeding the LB coaching staff a big piece of humble-pie for their embarrassingly personal actions & remarks after the 2011 playoff game).
I just love how HS FB can be such a redeeming therapy... let's play some football! :-)
Or perhaps this year will be different:
1. C'ville might live up to all their preseason 2012/2013/2014... hype and go undefeated while playing eleven super-star 8th graders both way (last year they did indeed slap OHS silly in the first game only to have their dreams crushed in the rubber-match);
2. Westfield might not be able go three deep at every position and their players could actually stop their foul-mouth trash talking and just play football (last year their undefeated run ended in their rubber-match with OHS);
3. Robinson might return to their past glory (ehh... sorry, no need for a rubber-match last year);
4. Chantilly could stop believing that playing on a dominating 110 lbs CYA youth team automatically translates into D1 talent and HS championships (I sooo wished there was a rubber-match last year!);
5. And LB might dress out more then five players that live in their schools district (OHS coaches did enjoy feeding the LB coaching staff a big piece of humble-pie for their embarrassingly personal actions & remarks after the 2011 playoff game).
I just love how HS FB can be such a redeeming therapy... let's play some football! :-)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
facts only
()
Date: August 21, 2013 09:30AM
Is it necessary to say you don't like Henderson? If yes, man up and state your name. Poythress at GF made the playoffs every year and only lost 3 games outside of Hylton and all three in OT.He is the only GF coach to make the playoffs every year he led the program in its entire history. And stop crying about getting whipped in the 2011 playoffs. Has any LB fan cried about the loss to Oakton in 2011?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OHSCougar
()
Date: August 21, 2013 10:57AM
"facts only" needs to get his facts right.
1. My post never mentioned anyone by name - yours did. How about you take your own advise and "man up and state your name?" I would think that would be easy for you to do since it appears to respect the two men you mentioned.
2. I was not "crying about getting whipped in the 2011 playoffs" because we did... wrong again.
3. Why would an "LB fan cry about the loss to Oakton in 2011" when LB won... strike three.
"facts only" wrote six sentences and got at least three "facts" wrong. I would check "facts only" other statements if I cared... but I don't. However, "OHSCougar" will "man up" and give "facts only" a little advise. Either change your name or slow down, take a deep breath and double check your work before you click the "post message" button. The "Preview" button might also come in real handy for you. ;-)
1. My post never mentioned anyone by name - yours did. How about you take your own advise and "man up and state your name?" I would think that would be easy for you to do since it appears to respect the two men you mentioned.
2. I was not "crying about getting whipped in the 2011 playoffs" because we did... wrong again.
3. Why would an "LB fan cry about the loss to Oakton in 2011" when LB won... strike three.
"facts only" wrote six sentences and got at least three "facts" wrong. I would check "facts only" other statements if I cared... but I don't. However, "OHSCougar" will "man up" and give "facts only" a little advise. Either change your name or slow down, take a deep breath and double check your work before you click the "post message" button. The "Preview" button might also come in real handy for you. ;-)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tilly4life
()
Date: August 21, 2013 08:41PM
Robinson got whopped by West Pot 28-0 I heard so looks like they are back in the basement. Go Chargers.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville45
()
Date: August 22, 2013 10:52AM
Centreville plays Hylton in a scrimmage at Cville tonight. Good opprotunity to see how both of these teams are looking going into the first week of the season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
seriously?
()
Date: August 22, 2013 04:12PM
What? We are almost starting the season and we have no gratuitious threads about the Hendersons? What's wrong with you people?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
seriously?
()
Date: August 22, 2013 04:12PM
What? We are almost starting the season and we have no gratuitious threads about the Hendersons? What's wrong with you people?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Centreville Scrimmage
()
Date: August 22, 2013 10:31PM
Centreville beat Hylton in the scrimmage tonite 48-26. Centreville got 2 scores from AJ Turner on 30 and 20 yd runs. Taylor Boose with a 15 yd td run. Charles Tutt with a insane, tackle-breaking 60 yd catch-and-run. Centreville Defense with 3 or 4 turnovers on the Hylton offense. Hylton looks very explosive, but for the most part, Cville shut the big plays down. Was 34-13 at the half. Centreville looks like they are certainly the class of 6A north
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Al Sharpton
()
Date: August 22, 2013 10:45PM
Now I know that South Lakes is not a powerhouse by any means, but a Div 6 school playing a good but not great Div 5 Broad Run team has got to do better than they did tonight. Both teams played starters for 3 quarters and South Lakes had one first down. Defense looked ok early on, but their depth is so poor that they got tired and eventually gave up three scores while being shut down completely. One first down by the starters, and one by the second team in garbage time.
Who do they get next week? Westfield, and then two weeks later? Stone Bridge.
Oy vey...
Nice kids and nice coaches. I wish them well, but...
Who do they get next week? Westfield, and then two weeks later? Stone Bridge.
Oy vey...
Nice kids and nice coaches. I wish them well, but...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Footballfann
()
Date: August 22, 2013 11:26PM
Centreville Scrimmage Wrote:
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> Centreville beat Hylton in the scrimmage tonite
> 48-26. Centreville got 2 scores from AJ Turner on
> 30 and 20 yd runs. Taylor Boose with a 15 yd td
> run. Charles Tutt with a insane, tackle-breaking
> 60 yd catch-and-run. Centreville Defense with 3 or
> 4 turnovers on the Hylton offense. Hylton looks
> very explosive, but for the most part, Cville shut
> the big plays down. Was 34-13 at the half.
> Centreville looks like they are certainly the
> class of 6A north
This was a beat down by a much better TEAM than collection of Athletes. Centreville simply out hit a much larger Hylton team on both Offense and Defense. Hylton threw a long TD pass on the first play of the game and then got the ball rammed down their throats for the rest of the game. Hylton managed another score by half, but Centreville owned the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball to make it 34-13 at half. Centreville came out in the second half and played their starters 2 more series to make it 48-13 before playing the rest of the team. Hylton scored a couple who cares TDs against JV.
Centreville is the real deal, look out 6A North. I know every Centreville fan hopes they see Hylton in the State Championship, not so much the other way around.
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> Centreville beat Hylton in the scrimmage tonite
> 48-26. Centreville got 2 scores from AJ Turner on
> 30 and 20 yd runs. Taylor Boose with a 15 yd td
> run. Charles Tutt with a insane, tackle-breaking
> 60 yd catch-and-run. Centreville Defense with 3 or
> 4 turnovers on the Hylton offense. Hylton looks
> very explosive, but for the most part, Cville shut
> the big plays down. Was 34-13 at the half.
> Centreville looks like they are certainly the
> class of 6A north
This was a beat down by a much better TEAM than collection of Athletes. Centreville simply out hit a much larger Hylton team on both Offense and Defense. Hylton threw a long TD pass on the first play of the game and then got the ball rammed down their throats for the rest of the game. Hylton managed another score by half, but Centreville owned the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball to make it 34-13 at half. Centreville came out in the second half and played their starters 2 more series to make it 48-13 before playing the rest of the team. Hylton scored a couple who cares TDs against JV.
Centreville is the real deal, look out 6A North. I know every Centreville fan hopes they see Hylton in the State Championship, not so much the other way around.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 23, 2013 03:04AM
Does anyone know how Lake Braddock, Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson and Lake Braddock did in their scrimmages?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JVB1966
()
Date: August 23, 2013 07:06AM
Does anyone know what happened to the young man who was taken away in an ambulance? I hope he's ok. :(
It was an awesome game! I'm ashamed to say that this was the first time I have ever been to a football game but it was so much fun!
The kid who scored for Centreville was h3!! on wheels! He even put Speedy Gonzales to shame! :)
It was an awesome game! I'm ashamed to say that this was the first time I have ever been to a football game but it was so much fun!
The kid who scored for Centreville was h3!! on wheels! He even put Speedy Gonzales to shame! :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SL Parent
()
Date: August 23, 2013 07:51AM
I was amazed by how many more players Broad Run had. It seemed like they dressed 80 whereas South Lakes only had about 50.
South Lakes Defense played extremely well. They held Broad Run's starters to only 7 points. Broad Run had a couple of garbage TDs at the end.
South Lakes lack of a QB and overall lack of players will lead them to another tough year. A school that has 2200 kids should have more than 50 kids playing football.
South Lakes Defense played extremely well. They held Broad Run's starters to only 7 points. Broad Run had a couple of garbage TDs at the end.
South Lakes lack of a QB and overall lack of players will lead them to another tough year. A school that has 2200 kids should have more than 50 kids playing football.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 23, 2013 08:10AM
To JVB1966. Was this a Centreville or Hylton player?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CentrevilleFan
()
Date: August 23, 2013 09:10AM
JVB1966 Wrote:
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> Does anyone know what happened to the young man
> who was taken away in an ambulance? I hope he's
> ok. :(
Dislocated shoulder. Apparently looked pretty bad.
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> Does anyone know what happened to the young man
> who was taken away in an ambulance? I hope he's
> ok. :(
Dislocated shoulder. Apparently looked pretty bad.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
injured player
()
Date: August 23, 2013 09:38AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> To JVB1966. Was this a Centreville or Hylton
> player?
Hylton player. Centreville injured about 3 of their players.
Centreville is the real deal. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're even better than the 2000 state champs team...
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> To JVB1966. Was this a Centreville or Hylton
> player?
Hylton player. Centreville injured about 3 of their players.
Centreville is the real deal. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're even better than the 2000 state champs team...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fairfax v Loudoun
()
Date: August 23, 2013 10:45AM
Loudoun keeps their schools smaller, so they don't have any D6 schools, but I have started to think that their top D5 schools are much better than those in Fairfax. I mean, I know Stone Bridge has always been the top D5 school in NOVA, but Broad Run slaughtered Herndon last year, and beat up on South Lakes lasat night. Briar Woods is now D5 and they held their own in a scrimmage against Battlefield last week. And they are better than Broad Run.
I think Loudoun has the top three D5 schools for forseeable future.
Who looks to be the best Fairfax D5 school... and will Fairfax play Loudoun schools in the 16 team playoff format?
I think Loudoun has the top three D5 schools for forseeable future.
Who looks to be the best Fairfax D5 school... and will Fairfax play Loudoun schools in the 16 team playoff format?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SL guy
()
Date: August 23, 2013 10:54AM
SL Parent Wrote:
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> I was amazed by how many more players Broad Run
> had. It seemed like they dressed 80 whereas South
> Lakes only had about 50.
>
> South Lakes Defense played extremely well. They
> held Broad Run's starters to only 7 points. Broad
> Run had a couple of garbage TDs at the end.
>
> South Lakes lack of a QB and overall lack of
> players will lead them to another tough year. A
> school that has 2200 kids should have more than 50
> kids playing football.
They should but won't because the schools athletic program is still a joke. I laugh, then groan, every time I read a "look out for SL football this year, lots of returning players" posts to these fxu football threads. Drive around Fox Mill and see how many homes have "home of and Oakton Cougar" signs in front and Oakton window stickers on their cars. Madison and Oakton are the two biggest beneficiaries of South Lakes athletic department ineptitude. It won't change as long as Linda Jones is there.
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> I was amazed by how many more players Broad Run
> had. It seemed like they dressed 80 whereas South
> Lakes only had about 50.
>
> South Lakes Defense played extremely well. They
> held Broad Run's starters to only 7 points. Broad
> Run had a couple of garbage TDs at the end.
>
> South Lakes lack of a QB and overall lack of
> players will lead them to another tough year. A
> school that has 2200 kids should have more than 50
> kids playing football.
They should but won't because the schools athletic program is still a joke. I laugh, then groan, every time I read a "look out for SL football this year, lots of returning players" posts to these fxu football threads. Drive around Fox Mill and see how many homes have "home of and Oakton Cougar" signs in front and Oakton window stickers on their cars. Madison and Oakton are the two biggest beneficiaries of South Lakes athletic department ineptitude. It won't change as long as Linda Jones is there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just wow
()
Date: August 23, 2013 12:40PM
So I heard West Springfield beat Oakton 48 to 26 in thier last scrimmage...does Oakton suck or is WS the real deal?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football fans
()
Date: August 23, 2013 12:56PM
Just wow Wrote:
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> So I heard West Springfield beat Oakton 48 to 26
> in thier last scrimmage...does Oakton suck or is
> WS the real deal?
I don't believe this, can anyone confirm? I smell some WS BS. That is some stinky smell too.
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> So I heard West Springfield beat Oakton 48 to 26
> in thier last scrimmage...does Oakton suck or is
> WS the real deal?
I don't believe this, can anyone confirm? I smell some WS BS. That is some stinky smell too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JVB1966
()
Date: August 23, 2013 12:58PM
Thanks for the update on the Hylton player!
I overheard someone saying that it could be a broken collarbone!
Dislocated shoulder is bad enough, though! Poor guy! I hope he makes a full recovery! :)
I overheard someone saying that it could be a broken collarbone!
Dislocated shoulder is bad enough, though! Poor guy! I hope he makes a full recovery! :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wuanmzos
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:04PM
How did Robinson do?! Does anybody know?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Scrimmage Result
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:07PM
Chantilly destroyed Garfield in their scrimmage.
I haven't seen Centreville play yet, but I doubt they are better than the 2011 squad.
I haven't seen Centreville play yet, but I doubt they are better than the 2011 squad.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Loops jake
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:10PM
Confirmed west Springfield did beat oakton pretty handily.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Why
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:12PM
Goodness y'all just hate WS don't you
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Sad mom
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:13PM
Why does everyone hate west Springfield :'(
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oakton Cougar 2014
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:16PM
I wish we wud have won :*(
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 23, 2013 01:45PM
Scrimmage Result Wrote:
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> Chantilly destroyed Garfield in their scrimmage.
>
> I haven't seen Centreville play yet, but I doubt
> they are better than the 2011 squad.
Not much can be said about the Chantilly/Garfield scrimmage because Garfield has not been much of a sports school ever since a large portion of their district was eaten up by the opening of Forest Park.
As for the Centreville squad, the 2011 definitely had better top shelf talent but it wasn't very deep. The current squad is experienced, deep and talented as well. The experience probably showed in the Hylton scrimmage because this group is generally the squad from last year and is in mid season form. That's why they had their way with a Hylton squad that should do very very well this year.
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> Chantilly destroyed Garfield in their scrimmage.
>
> I haven't seen Centreville play yet, but I doubt
> they are better than the 2011 squad.
Not much can be said about the Chantilly/Garfield scrimmage because Garfield has not been much of a sports school ever since a large portion of their district was eaten up by the opening of Forest Park.
As for the Centreville squad, the 2011 definitely had better top shelf talent but it wasn't very deep. The current squad is experienced, deep and talented as well. The experience probably showed in the Hylton scrimmage because this group is generally the squad from last year and is in mid season form. That's why they had their way with a Hylton squad that should do very very well this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 23, 2013 03:01PM
Why Wrote:
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> Goodness y'all just hate WS don't you
WS fans support their teams, but they frequently cross the line when it comes to good sportsmanship. When visiting WS fans are harassed, the players are disrespected and the fans are generally just very rude.
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> Goodness y'all just hate WS don't you
WS fans support their teams, but they frequently cross the line when it comes to good sportsmanship. When visiting WS fans are harassed, the players are disrespected and the fans are generally just very rude.
Hylton/Centreville
Posted by:
NOVABall
()
Date: August 23, 2013 04:18PM
My neighbor works at Hylton and he told me the kid that got hurt was their second string quarterback who's a Sophomore. His shoulder was apparently seperated and then it popped back in before the ambulance left the stadium. He may be out for about 2-3 weeks depending on rehab and no further problems. Hylton had a bunch of starters sit out last night because of bumps and bruises. Three starters on both the defensive & offensive line, the center, two linebackers, running back, kicker and wide receiver. I watched the first half before having to take my daughter to soccer practice down the road. Centreville looks impressive on both sides of the ball and Hylton's offense looked good passing the ball. Neither team really opened their playbook running the same 4-5 offensive plays the whole game. They both have a good chance of seeing each other down the road.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVABall
()
Date: August 23, 2013 04:23PM
Inquisitive One...Gar-Field didn't lose any students to Forest Park. Freedom is the school that took kids from both Gar-Field and Potomac and they got the crap neighborhoods from both schools. Forest Park tooks students from Hylton, Potomac and Osbourn Park. The reason Gar-Field is so bad is Coaching and the kids that can plan transfer out to either Woodbridge, Hylton, or Potomac.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 23, 2013 04:41PM
I am speaking of long ago when Forest Park opened. In other words, Garfield has not been a sports power for over ten years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan fan
()
Date: August 23, 2013 09:30PM
The Oakton west Springfield scrimmage was not good. But, Oakton was up 19 14 when they put all their JV kids in. Those kids struggled badly. Final ended up 35 26 west Springfield. Neither team looked good. Oakton is in a rebuilding stage and Springfield might not win a game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dangdang
()
Date: August 23, 2013 09:35PM
Since the Oakton staff is regarded as tops in the region do they literally have no players??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
PW Basketball
()
Date: August 24, 2013 10:37AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> I am speaking of long ago when Forest Park opened.
> In other words, Garfield has not been a sports
> power for over ten years.
Garfield has remained a basketball power the last ten years.
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> I am speaking of long ago when Forest Park opened.
> In other words, Garfield has not been a sports
> power for over ten years.
Garfield has remained a basketball power the last ten years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Hawk
()
Date: August 24, 2013 11:30AM
Spartan fan is being very generous to Oakton about the final score and from what I saw it was first team for the most part, then second team varsity for a while and then after the jv got some time the varsity squads came back on the field and WS drove the ball from the 20yd line to score yet again on Oakton's poor pass defense.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
French Football?
()
Date: August 24, 2013 12:06PM
I think Norman Schwartzkopf said "going to war without the French is like going fishing without your banjo"
So why do the school board and board of supervisors want to spend millions on installation of maintenance of artificial turf with Tarkett, a FRENCH company?
Real football is played on real grass.
So why do the school board and board of supervisors want to spend millions on installation of maintenance of artificial turf with Tarkett, a FRENCH company?
Real football is played on real grass.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fuck that
()
Date: August 24, 2013 12:17PM
Nobody gives two shits about the French or the new turf fields that's just the way of the future, new times bring nicer things, and may i remind you this is fairfax county.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Curious George
()
Date: August 24, 2013 12:31PM
Just wondering... Does D5 powerhouse Stone Bridge have a chance against D6 powerhouse Westfield?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 24, 2013 01:27PM
Curious George Wrote:
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> Just wondering... Does D5 powerhouse Stone
> Bridge have a chance against D6 powerhouse
> Westfield?
Definitely! My only question why would Westfield want to play Stone Bridge because with the playoff system SB benefits from playing a D6 school but there is no benefit in any way to the larger school
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> Just wondering... Does D5 powerhouse Stone
> Bridge have a chance against D6 powerhouse
> Westfield?
Definitely! My only question why would Westfield want to play Stone Bridge because with the playoff system SB benefits from playing a D6 school but there is no benefit in any way to the larger school
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
economics fall
()
Date: August 24, 2013 01:52PM
New times bring nicer things if you are willing to pay for them-if you want the fucking turf so much, hand over some money.
I don't give two shits for high school sports and the turf maintenance is going to mean millions of dollars for someone.
I don't give two shits for high school sports and the turf maintenance is going to mean millions of dollars for someone.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hgjutd2314
()
Date: August 24, 2013 07:30PM
Chantilly did not destroy Garfield high school, at the end of the scrimmage it was tie 14-14. Plus, Garfield never played their 1st team QB,RB, or WRs the whole scrimmage and most of the first D barely played. They played mainly the 2nd and 3nd/jv team. Because the first team just played mountain view. Didn't want to risk injuries and chantilly wasn't a threat
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Joe B.
()
Date: August 25, 2013 01:39AM
You know that GF had they 2nd & 3rd string in vs. Chantilly. 1st string played vs. Mountain View. Pls, game was 14-14 when GF put in JV squad.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Dave
()
Date: August 25, 2013 01:55AM
Nova, it has nothing to do with coaches at GF. GF doesn't have the bs specialty programs that enable coaches to recruit good played from PWC. One coach tried to " convince" me that my kid should attend a certain school and take film production as a way to get a waiver to play football. It's not hard to see why some schools are better than others in PWC.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: August 25, 2013 11:39AM
Hgjutd2314 Wrote:
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> Chantilly did not destroy Garfield high school, at
> the end of the scrimmage it was tie 14-14. Plus,
> Garfield never played their 1st team QB,RB, or WRs
> the whole scrimmage and most of the first D barely
> played. They played mainly the 2nd and 3nd/jv
> team. Because the first team just played mountain
> view. Didn't want to risk injuries and chantilly
> wasn't a threat
What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a Concorde team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have 2 scrimmage at once, what you are saying is making no sense...
Westfield wants to play Stone Bridge because Westfield doesn't need the power points, they are certainly making the playoffs. They've lost the last two years at home in the region championship while undefeated. This is simply to give Westfield more practice against elite teams for team development and growth which is smart.
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> Chantilly did not destroy Garfield high school, at
> the end of the scrimmage it was tie 14-14. Plus,
> Garfield never played their 1st team QB,RB, or WRs
> the whole scrimmage and most of the first D barely
> played. They played mainly the 2nd and 3nd/jv
> team. Because the first team just played mountain
> view. Didn't want to risk injuries and chantilly
> wasn't a threat
What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a Concorde team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have 2 scrimmage at once, what you are saying is making no sense...
Westfield wants to play Stone Bridge because Westfield doesn't need the power points, they are certainly making the playoffs. They've lost the last two years at home in the region championship while undefeated. This is simply to give Westfield more practice against elite teams for team development and growth which is smart.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 25, 2013 01:24PM
NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Hgjutd2314 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chantilly did not destroy Garfield high school,
> at
> > the end of the scrimmage it was tie 14-14.
> Plus,
> > Garfield never played their 1st team QB,RB, or
> WRs
> > the whole scrimmage and most of the first D
> barely
> > played. They played mainly the 2nd and 3nd/jv
> > team. Because the first team just played
> mountain
> > view. Didn't want to risk injuries and
> chantilly
> > wasn't a threat
>
>
> What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed
> Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a Concorde
> team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have 2
> scrimmage at once, what you are saying is making
> no sense...
>
> Westfield wants to play Stone Bridge because
> Westfield doesn't need the power points, they are
> certainly making the playoffs. They've lost the
> last two years at home in the region championship
> while undefeated. This is simply to give
> Westfield more practice against elite teams for
> team development and growth which is smart.
I would never make an issue about the Garfield/Chantilly scrimmage because I was not aware that they were either sitting out front line players or were playing 2 scrimmages simultaneously. However, Garfield's football record has been dismal ever since they won the state championship. That was a long time ago.
As for Westfield, sure they are going to the playoffs, but you never know how things develop. They could loose out in the seeding race because of playing a D5 team.
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> Hgjutd2314 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chantilly did not destroy Garfield high school,
> at
> > the end of the scrimmage it was tie 14-14.
> Plus,
> > Garfield never played their 1st team QB,RB, or
> WRs
> > the whole scrimmage and most of the first D
> barely
> > played. They played mainly the 2nd and 3nd/jv
> > team. Because the first team just played
> mountain
> > view. Didn't want to risk injuries and
> chantilly
> > wasn't a threat
>
>
> What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed
> Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a Concorde
> team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have 2
> scrimmage at once, what you are saying is making
> no sense...
>
> Westfield wants to play Stone Bridge because
> Westfield doesn't need the power points, they are
> certainly making the playoffs. They've lost the
> last two years at home in the region championship
> while undefeated. This is simply to give
> Westfield more practice against elite teams for
> team development and growth which is smart.
I would never make an issue about the Garfield/Chantilly scrimmage because I was not aware that they were either sitting out front line players or were playing 2 scrimmages simultaneously. However, Garfield's football record has been dismal ever since they won the state championship. That was a long time ago.
As for Westfield, sure they are going to the playoffs, but you never know how things develop. They could loose out in the seeding race because of playing a D5 team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
who cares?
()
Date: August 25, 2013 01:36PM
High school football is so irrelevant. Most of the players will never move on in football and their crappy grades will limit them for the rest of their lives.
What happens after high school, Wal-Mart?
What happens after high school, Wal-Mart?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: August 25, 2013 06:29PM
> As for Westfield, sure they are going to the
> playoffs, but you never know how things develop.
> They could loose out in the seeding race because
> of playing a D5 team.
That's his point though. Is seeding important for Westfield? They've lost the last two years as the undefeated one seed, and a few years prior to that as the undefeated one seed to Chantilly. Maybe playing a tougher schedule (although the Concorde is a doozy already) will be better for them. If the game is at Centreville or something Westfield will travel.
No big deal, they will be a 3 or 4 seed at the lowest, probably the two seed. Lake Braddock also plays Stone Bridge which will be one of the main teams competing with Westfield for seeding.
> playoffs, but you never know how things develop.
> They could loose out in the seeding race because
> of playing a D5 team.
That's his point though. Is seeding important for Westfield? They've lost the last two years as the undefeated one seed, and a few years prior to that as the undefeated one seed to Chantilly. Maybe playing a tougher schedule (although the Concorde is a doozy already) will be better for them. If the game is at Centreville or something Westfield will travel.
No big deal, they will be a 3 or 4 seed at the lowest, probably the two seed. Lake Braddock also plays Stone Bridge which will be one of the main teams competing with Westfield for seeding.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
GAMES
()
Date: August 25, 2013 10:17PM
As some schools are still finishing up their scrimmages, others are preparing for Week 1! Which Opening Matchups from around the region are you all looking forward to this week?
Games of Note:
Centreville @ West Potomac (8/29)
Fairfax @ Woodson (8/29)
Edison @ Lee (8/29)
Coolidge (DC) @ Yorktown (8/29)
Lake Braddock @ Robinson (8/30)
Hayfield @ Westfield (8/30)
T.C. Williams @ Oakton (8/30)
Mount Vernon @ South County (8/30)
Games of Note:
Centreville @ West Potomac (8/29)
Fairfax @ Woodson (8/29)
Edison @ Lee (8/29)
Coolidge (DC) @ Yorktown (8/29)
Lake Braddock @ Robinson (8/30)
Hayfield @ Westfield (8/30)
T.C. Williams @ Oakton (8/30)
Mount Vernon @ South County (8/30)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 26, 2013 06:58AM
GAMES Wrote:
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> As some schools are still finishing up their
> scrimmages, others are preparing for Week 1! Which
> Opening Matchups from around the region are you
> all looking forward to this week?
>
> Games of Note:
>
>
> Centreville @ West Potomac (8/29)
> Fairfax @ Woodson (8/29)
> Edison @ Lee (8/29)
> Coolidge (DC) @ Yorktown (8/29)
> Lake Braddock @ Robinson (8/30)
> Hayfield @ Westfield (8/30)
> T.C. Williams @ Oakton (8/30)
> Mount Vernon @ South County (8/30)
All of them look interesting in one respect or another with the exception of FFX vs. Woodson, Edison vs. Lee and Mt. Vernon vs. South County. Summarizing them by questions are 1) Can CVille contain Pierson-El effectively 2)How will the DC team fare against a pretty good Yorktown team and their D1 speedster Stewart s 3)will the Titans possibly upset Oakton and 4) can Hayfield hang with Westfield.
-------------------------------------------------------
> As some schools are still finishing up their
> scrimmages, others are preparing for Week 1! Which
> Opening Matchups from around the region are you
> all looking forward to this week?
>
> Games of Note:
>
>
> Centreville @ West Potomac (8/29)
> Fairfax @ Woodson (8/29)
> Edison @ Lee (8/29)
> Coolidge (DC) @ Yorktown (8/29)
> Lake Braddock @ Robinson (8/30)
> Hayfield @ Westfield (8/30)
> T.C. Williams @ Oakton (8/30)
> Mount Vernon @ South County (8/30)
All of them look interesting in one respect or another with the exception of FFX vs. Woodson, Edison vs. Lee and Mt. Vernon vs. South County. Summarizing them by questions are 1) Can CVille contain Pierson-El effectively 2)How will the DC team fare against a pretty good Yorktown team and their D1 speedster Stewart s 3)will the Titans possibly upset Oakton and 4) can Hayfield hang with Westfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oakton bomb year
()
Date: August 26, 2013 12:55PM
I predict Oakton will get blown out by t.c Williams as they did by hylton who also had a very athletic team, and the lake braddock @ Robinson game will be a fun one to watch.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Boom
()
Date: August 26, 2013 01:23PM
Most explosive Matchup might be Centreville vs West Pot. Gonna be interesting to see who has a better performance, AJ turner or Demornay Pierson-El.
FFX vs Woodson is somewhat interesting as it might be the only chance either team has a chance to win, and this is a classic crosstown rivalry.
One I'm most looking forward to? LB vs Robinson. No matter what the talent is on either side, these teams always play hard against each other. Would not be surprised to see Robo give Henderson and the Bruins a run for their money. Big game to watch.
FFX vs Woodson is somewhat interesting as it might be the only chance either team has a chance to win, and this is a classic crosstown rivalry.
One I'm most looking forward to? LB vs Robinson. No matter what the talent is on either side, these teams always play hard against each other. Would not be surprised to see Robo give Henderson and the Bruins a run for their money. Big game to watch.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CRAP
()
Date: August 26, 2013 01:56PM
Oakton will be lucky if they go 5-5.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: August 26, 2013 02:03PM
Centreville 41 @ West Potomac 15 (8/29)
Fairfax24 @ Woodson10 (8/29)
Edison 28 @ Lee 13 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)17 @ Yorktown 38 (8/29)
Lake Braddock 31 @ Robinson 16 (8/30)
Hayfield 10 @ Westfield 22 (8/30)
T.C. Williams31 @ Oakton 27 (8/30)
Mount Vernon 14 @ South County 48 (8/30)
Fairfax24 @ Woodson10 (8/29)
Edison 28 @ Lee 13 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)17 @ Yorktown 38 (8/29)
Lake Braddock 31 @ Robinson 16 (8/30)
Hayfield 10 @ Westfield 22 (8/30)
T.C. Williams31 @ Oakton 27 (8/30)
Mount Vernon 14 @ South County 48 (8/30)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
peetey pablo
()
Date: August 26, 2013 11:22PM
People should really look out for Falls Church. They return so much talent and beat Lee and Stafford in their first two scrimmages. Daly, Dupont, Mejia, Mulumba and Coneys are extremely talented returning all district players. there's no reason they cant beat Edison and Mount vernon who have fallen off as of late.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Picks
()
Date: August 26, 2013 11:24PM
Centreville 35 @ West Potomac 14 (8/29)
Fairfax 6 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 20 @ Lee 13 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)24 @ Yorktown 42 (8/29)
Lake Braddock 30 @ Robinson 27 (8/30)
Hayfield 15 @ Westfield 40 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 41 @ Oakton 16 (8/30)
Mount Vernon 21 @ South County 20 (8/30)
Fairfax 6 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 20 @ Lee 13 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)24 @ Yorktown 42 (8/29)
Lake Braddock 30 @ Robinson 27 (8/30)
Hayfield 15 @ Westfield 40 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 41 @ Oakton 16 (8/30)
Mount Vernon 21 @ South County 20 (8/30)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
pooh
()
Date: August 27, 2013 08:39AM
This is for Concorde only, if you want to talk Falls Church, Edison or Mount Vernon, please start a different thread!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SCREW THE CONCORD
()
Date: August 27, 2013 09:56AM
If you want to talk about Concorde how bout we talk about Oakton who will be lucky to have a 4-6 record this year or how a bout Herndon who won 1 game last year. The Concorde is full of it and the Patriot district is just as talented.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BUT DONT SCREW THE FACTS
()
Date: August 27, 2013 10:44AM
If you think Patriot can hang with Concorde read this:
http://vhsl-reference.com/ratings_by_groupdistrictdivision_gy_2013.cfm
Oh.. I almost forgot the 5 State Rings since 2000....
http://vhsl-reference.com/ratings_by_groupdistrictdivision_gy_2013.cfm
Oh.. I almost forgot the 5 State Rings since 2000....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football is for Fools
()
Date: August 27, 2013 10:45AM
Look at what football gets you:
Jerry Sandusky (pedophilia)
George Allen (Ku Klux Klan)
Jerry Sandusky (pedophilia)
George Allen (Ku Klux Klan)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
thread titles and you
()
Date: August 27, 2013 10:46AM
pooh Wrote:
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> This is for Concorde only, if you want to talk
> Falls Church, Edison or Mount Vernon, please start
> a different thread!!!
The thread is titled "High School Football 2013" not "Concorde District Football 2013". We can talk about any school we want to here but if you want to start a Concorde only thread nothing's stopping you.
I'm not hating on the Concorde, they play some great ball there. Just sayin.
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is for Concorde only, if you want to talk
> Falls Church, Edison or Mount Vernon, please start
> a different thread!!!
The thread is titled "High School Football 2013" not "Concorde District Football 2013". We can talk about any school we want to here but if you want to start a Concorde only thread nothing's stopping you.
I'm not hating on the Concorde, they play some great ball there. Just sayin.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
realitytime
()
Date: August 27, 2013 11:17AM
thread titles and you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> pooh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is for Concorde only, if you want to talk
> > Falls Church, Edison or Mount Vernon, please
> start
> > a different thread!!!
>
> The thread is titled "High School Football 2013"
> not "Concorde District Football 2013". We can
> talk about any school we want to here but if you
> want to start a Concorde only thread nothing's
> stopping you.
>
> I'm not hating on the Concorde, they play some
> great ball there. Just sayin.
You can talk about any school you want! Just make sure you genuflect as you write about the Concorde teams. The obviously best conference in the state, maybe not the best team, BUT definitely the best conference. I wish Falls Church the best and hope they make the playoffs, it would be a great story if they did well.
The big boys will be slugging it out over here in the Concorde tall grass where the North 6A representative will be crowned to battle against the South's best. I would bet the house that it is a team from the Concorde headed to Scott Stadium.
-------------------------------------------------------
> pooh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is for Concorde only, if you want to talk
> > Falls Church, Edison or Mount Vernon, please
> start
> > a different thread!!!
>
> The thread is titled "High School Football 2013"
> not "Concorde District Football 2013". We can
> talk about any school we want to here but if you
> want to start a Concorde only thread nothing's
> stopping you.
>
> I'm not hating on the Concorde, they play some
> great ball there. Just sayin.
You can talk about any school you want! Just make sure you genuflect as you write about the Concorde teams. The obviously best conference in the state, maybe not the best team, BUT definitely the best conference. I wish Falls Church the best and hope they make the playoffs, it would be a great story if they did well.
The big boys will be slugging it out over here in the Concorde tall grass where the North 6A representative will be crowned to battle against the South's best. I would bet the house that it is a team from the Concorde headed to Scott Stadium.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cville 2013
()
Date: August 27, 2013 01:59PM
I just feel sorry for anyone playing centreville this year. After what I saw them do to Hylton, all I can say is wow...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Herb Cohen
()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:17PM
It sounds like this might be Madison's year to beat Oakton, or at least give them a game. The Outback Bowl is usually a complete bore fest.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
northernregion696969
()
Date: August 27, 2013 05:22PM
Yo why are we not talking about Woodson???
they lost bad players and our team is loaded this year. qb patrick riley bouta sling 30 tds this year easily. watch out for us fairfax aint ready at all. Big james lovett making big plays on O and D. 9-1 or 8-2 season in store for woodson. can even compete for the region won our scrimmage against edison 56-0 and beat a WCAC school in PVI handily too. dont sleep on the #cavs #newturfnewteam. and jack jacobs gained 45 pounds of muscle in the offseason and could be a beast d-end this year. Jeff obrien is coming back as well from a tremendous season last year where he was the leading rusher and all district player. #21 making big moves he failed AP government on purpose to stay an extra year and use his forth year of high school eligibility. might be the strongest running back in the DMV. Also basketball superstar Eric Bowles is playing DB for the rekindled woodson team. could be a similar team to the 09 regional runner up year with Connor Riley, JJ, and others. mark my word. Bianchi out
they lost bad players and our team is loaded this year. qb patrick riley bouta sling 30 tds this year easily. watch out for us fairfax aint ready at all. Big james lovett making big plays on O and D. 9-1 or 8-2 season in store for woodson. can even compete for the region won our scrimmage against edison 56-0 and beat a WCAC school in PVI handily too. dont sleep on the #cavs #newturfnewteam. and jack jacobs gained 45 pounds of muscle in the offseason and could be a beast d-end this year. Jeff obrien is coming back as well from a tremendous season last year where he was the leading rusher and all district player. #21 making big moves he failed AP government on purpose to stay an extra year and use his forth year of high school eligibility. might be the strongest running back in the DMV. Also basketball superstar Eric Bowles is playing DB for the rekindled woodson team. could be a similar team to the 09 regional runner up year with Connor Riley, JJ, and others. mark my word. Bianchi out
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DanTheMan
()
Date: August 27, 2013 05:28PM
Was at the Cville game last week, this is a much better team than last year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordeFball
()
Date: August 27, 2013 05:48PM
northernregion696969 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yo why are we not talking about Woodson???
> they lost bad players and our team is loaded this
> year. qb patrick riley bouta sling 30 tds this
> year easily. watch out for us fairfax aint ready
> at all. Big james lovett making big plays on O and
> D. 9-1 or 8-2 season in store for woodson. can
> even compete for the region won our scrimmage
> against edison 56-0 and beat a WCAC school in PVI
> handily too. dont sleep on the #cavs
> #newturfnewteam. and jack jacobs gained 45 pounds
> of muscle in the offseason and could be a beast
> d-end this year. Jeff obrien is coming back as
> well from a tremendous season last year where he
> was the leading rusher and all district player.
> #21 making big moves he failed AP government on
> purpose to stay an extra year and use his forth
> year of high school eligibility. might be the
> strongest running back in the DMV. Also basketball
> superstar Eric Bowles is playing DB for the
> rekindled woodson team. could be a similar team to
> the 09 regional runner up year with Connor Riley,
> JJ, and others. mark my word. Bianchi out
First off, just to correct you, Bowles is not on the team. In fact, HE DOESN'T EVEN GO TO WOODSON ANYMORE!!! He goes to some private school for his basketball. And sorry, but if you even make the playoffs with a 4-6 or a 5-5 record, you will have no chance against Centreville or Westfield or Lake Braddock. You may be better this year, but even to mention having a chance at the region is completely crazy.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yo why are we not talking about Woodson???
> they lost bad players and our team is loaded this
> year. qb patrick riley bouta sling 30 tds this
> year easily. watch out for us fairfax aint ready
> at all. Big james lovett making big plays on O and
> D. 9-1 or 8-2 season in store for woodson. can
> even compete for the region won our scrimmage
> against edison 56-0 and beat a WCAC school in PVI
> handily too. dont sleep on the #cavs
> #newturfnewteam. and jack jacobs gained 45 pounds
> of muscle in the offseason and could be a beast
> d-end this year. Jeff obrien is coming back as
> well from a tremendous season last year where he
> was the leading rusher and all district player.
> #21 making big moves he failed AP government on
> purpose to stay an extra year and use his forth
> year of high school eligibility. might be the
> strongest running back in the DMV. Also basketball
> superstar Eric Bowles is playing DB for the
> rekindled woodson team. could be a similar team to
> the 09 regional runner up year with Connor Riley,
> JJ, and others. mark my word. Bianchi out
First off, just to correct you, Bowles is not on the team. In fact, HE DOESN'T EVEN GO TO WOODSON ANYMORE!!! He goes to some private school for his basketball. And sorry, but if you even make the playoffs with a 4-6 or a 5-5 record, you will have no chance against Centreville or Westfield or Lake Braddock. You may be better this year, but even to mention having a chance at the region is completely crazy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Woodson winning? Lol
()
Date: August 27, 2013 10:50PM
Pretty sure Woodson only won 1 or 2 games last year and ill give them credit they had a lot of close games last year, but from what I hear they lost a lot of seniors so interested to see their Marshall college like scrounged up team haha.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Woodson winning? Lol
()
Date: August 27, 2013 10:50PM
Pretty sure Woodson only won 1 or 2 games last year and ill give them credit they had a lot of close games last year, but from what I hear they lost a lot of seniors so interested to see their Marshall college like scrounged up team haha.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordFballisadumbass
()
Date: August 27, 2013 11:18PM
youre an idiot ConcordFball get your facts straight. Bowles didnt transfer. dont come up here with your capital letters when a headless donkey knows more about basketball transfers than you. shut up. he is staying at woodson after originally saying he was going to clinton christian
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wooodson!!!!!
()
Date: August 28, 2013 12:02AM
woodson is THE worst program ever!!! its honestly laughable!! YOUR ONLY HOPE after josh hogan, and connor reilly era was the logan hancock, carson brown, john stokes, marcus dash, mike reaves era pat halloran and pete murray era. And its not the players' faults its the coaching you've had, going back to the coach cox then taylor and now dishunm regime. But the fact that they've had two 2-8 seasons in a row and beating the same 2 teams also shows, how BAD, Woodson, Annandale, and TC are! I mean seriously. good luck this season boys! Hopefully pat reilly can use the last name kinda like connor reilly used that!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheKicker
()
Date: August 28, 2013 09:11AM
Ease up, man. He got his facts wrong. Definitely not something anyone else here would do.
His premise is that when Woodson gets out with the big boys, even if they do improve, they won't be able to hang. Centreville looks like they have one of the best teams of the past 3 or 4 years and that they may not have a close game. Of course, they could go out and lose a couple (it is the Concorde), but that doesn't change that Woodson will be completely overmatched.
His premise is that when Woodson gets out with the big boys, even if they do improve, they won't be able to hang. Centreville looks like they have one of the best teams of the past 3 or 4 years and that they may not have a close game. Of course, they could go out and lose a couple (it is the Concorde), but that doesn't change that Woodson will be completely overmatched.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
footballlllllll
()
Date: August 28, 2013 11:56AM
Centreville 35 @ West Potomac 28 (8/29)
Fairfax 38 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 23 @ Lee 7 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)28 @ Yorktown 42 (8/29)
Lake Braddock 27 @ Robinson 30 (8/30)
Hayfield 21 @ Westfield 35 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 14 @ Oakton 21 (8/30)
Mount Vernon 10 @ South County 31 (8/30)
Watch out for Fairfax to surprise and win some big games behind RB Nick Scott, Penn State Recruit and best RB in the Region, along side a strong senior class.
Fairfax 38 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 23 @ Lee 7 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)28 @ Yorktown 42 (8/29)
Lake Braddock 27 @ Robinson 30 (8/30)
Hayfield 21 @ Westfield 35 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 14 @ Oakton 21 (8/30)
Mount Vernon 10 @ South County 31 (8/30)
Watch out for Fairfax to surprise and win some big games behind RB Nick Scott, Penn State Recruit and best RB in the Region, along side a strong senior class.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RBsEveywhere
()
Date: August 28, 2013 12:40PM
Nick Scott? I have never heard of him and highly doubtful he is the best Runningback in the Region with the likes of Aj Turner, Daluan Richardson, Pierson-El, Joe Wilson and Michael Stewart. Heck even Lee's Michael Jolly has a better case than this Nick Scott fellow.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Best RB? Easy.
()
Date: August 28, 2013 12:53PM
He was hindered by his stats at Fairfax with 900 yards on 84 carries last year...
Nick is the most highly recruited RB in the region head and tales better than the rest only rivaled by Pierson-El and MJ Stewart.
Recruit Page
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Scott-141769
Highlight Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TRbG2dnZC8
It should be undisputed...
Nick is the most highly recruited RB in the region head and tales better than the rest only rivaled by Pierson-El and MJ Stewart.
Recruit Page
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Scott-141769
Highlight Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TRbG2dnZC8
It should be undisputed...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheKicker
()
Date: August 28, 2013 03:05PM
The Best RB? Easy. Wrote:
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> He was hindered by his stats at Fairfax with 900
> yards on 84 carries last year...
>
> Nick is the most highly recruited RB in the region
> head and tales better than the rest only rivaled
> by Pierson-El and MJ Stewart.
>
> It should be undisputed...
Maybe a bit ahead of yourself, but he is a very good player. I think he is on the elite level.
Elite-- Pierson-El, Stewart, Wilson, Turner, Scott (I feel like I'm forgetting someone)
Put them in any particular order and you're right, that's how close these players are. I personally would rank them 1-Wilson, 2-Pierson-El, 3-Turner, 4-Stewart, 5-Scott but if you put them in another order, I wouldn't complain.
-------------------------------------------------------
> He was hindered by his stats at Fairfax with 900
> yards on 84 carries last year...
>
> Nick is the most highly recruited RB in the region
> head and tales better than the rest only rivaled
> by Pierson-El and MJ Stewart.
>
> It should be undisputed...
Maybe a bit ahead of yourself, but he is a very good player. I think he is on the elite level.
Elite-- Pierson-El, Stewart, Wilson, Turner, Scott (I feel like I'm forgetting someone)
Put them in any particular order and you're right, that's how close these players are. I personally would rank them 1-Wilson, 2-Pierson-El, 3-Turner, 4-Stewart, 5-Scott but if you put them in another order, I wouldn't complain.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach M
()
Date: August 28, 2013 05:17PM
Lake Braddock will not stop until it reaches the State Playoffs.
Offense will average 42 points per game.
QB will throw 22 TDs.
Mark my word.
Mike Shananahan
Offense will average 42 points per game.
QB will throw 22 TDs.
Mark my word.
Mike Shananahan
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really.....talent
()
Date: August 28, 2013 06:57PM
Centreville 49 @ West Potomac 14 (8/29)
Fairfax 14 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 24 @ Lee 27 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)21 @ Yorktown 30(8/29)
Lake Braddock 50 @ Robinson 14(8/30)
Hayfield 21 @ Westfield 24 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 28 @ Oakton 7(8/30)
Mount Vernon 10 @ South County 31 (8/30)
Fairfax 14 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 24 @ Lee 27 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)21 @ Yorktown 30(8/29)
Lake Braddock 50 @ Robinson 14(8/30)
Hayfield 21 @ Westfield 24 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 28 @ Oakton 7(8/30)
Mount Vernon 10 @ South County 31 (8/30)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Better Picks
()
Date: August 28, 2013 08:25PM
Centreville 35 @ West Potomac 27 (8/29)
Fairfax 21 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 14 @ Lee 37 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)12 @ Yorktown 49(8/29)
Lake Braddock 28 @ Robinson 21(8/30)
Hayfield 14 @ Westfield 44 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 6 @ Oakton 37(8/30)
Mount Vernon 0 @ South County 21 (8/30)
Fairfax 21 @ Woodson 10 (8/29)
Edison 14 @ Lee 37 (8/29)
Coolidge (DC)12 @ Yorktown 49(8/29)
Lake Braddock 28 @ Robinson 21(8/30)
Hayfield 14 @ Westfield 44 (8/30)
T.C. Williams 6 @ Oakton 37(8/30)
Mount Vernon 0 @ South County 21 (8/30)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: August 28, 2013 11:04PM
Have you seen centreville? They will dominate this year. They shouldn't lose a game for the next two years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: August 29, 2013 07:26AM
I am a big CVille fan. They should do well but I need to see them play an actual game. West Potomac should help gauge where they are.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 29, 2013 12:28PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> I am a big CVille fan. They should do well but I
> need to see them play an actual game. West
> Potomac should help gauge where they are.
Likewise, I am a CVille fan but concerned about all of the hype and the fact that I think the team believes it as well. WePo is not a team that should be taken lightly and could easily upset them in the same manner as what they did last year. Tight game with final 28-14 CVille.
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> I am a big CVille fan. They should do well but I
> need to see them play an actual game. West
> Potomac should help gauge where they are.
Likewise, I am a CVille fan but concerned about all of the hype and the fact that I think the team believes it as well. WePo is not a team that should be taken lightly and could easily upset them in the same manner as what they did last year. Tight game with final 28-14 CVille.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NorthernRegion80
()
Date: August 29, 2013 01:01PM
Herb Cohen Wrote:
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> It sounds like this might be Madison's year to
> beat Oakton, or at least give them a game. The
> Outback Bowl is usually a complete bore fest.
It does seem as though Madison will have their best shot at knocking off Oakton as of recent. But it will be hard seeing as one of their better players is questionable coming off knee surgery.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It sounds like this might be Madison's year to
> beat Oakton, or at least give them a game. The
> Outback Bowl is usually a complete bore fest.
It does seem as though Madison will have their best shot at knocking off Oakton as of recent. But it will be hard seeing as one of their better players is questionable coming off knee surgery.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: August 29, 2013 01:23PM
Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots of talent but we have to see how well they come together as a team and not listen to the hype. Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent, they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem, no superstars, but they relied on each other.
Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of steam.
If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we should do fine
Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of steam.
If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we should do fine
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 29, 2013 01:30PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots
> of talent but we have to see how well they come
> together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem,
> no superstars, but they relied on each other.
>
> Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle
> team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or
> in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of
> steam.
>
> If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we
> should do fine
Oh my, if stopping the big play is your concern then it could be a long night. Pierson-El is nothing but a big play highlight film. Hope that Haddock has a scheme to contain him because he is SOOOO elusive.
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> Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots
> of talent but we have to see how well they come
> together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem,
> no superstars, but they relied on each other.
>
> Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle
> team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or
> in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of
> steam.
>
> If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we
> should do fine
Oh my, if stopping the big play is your concern then it could be a long night. Pierson-El is nothing but a big play highlight film. Hope that Haddock has a scheme to contain him because he is SOOOO elusive.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Goosebumps
()
Date: August 29, 2013 01:37PM
Either way I'm excited to see the outcome of the west pot game and robo tmrw! High school football is finally here!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ChargerFan
()
Date: August 29, 2013 02:48PM
did Stone Bridge and Chantilly scrimmage last night?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 29, 2013 03:09PM
ChargerFan Wrote:
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> did Stone Bridge and Chantilly scrimmage last
> night?
There is a video on the WaPo All Mets website. I believe that Stone Bridge won in a narrow low scoring affair.
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> did Stone Bridge and Chantilly scrimmage last
> night?
There is a video on the WaPo All Mets website. I believe that Stone Bridge won in a narrow low scoring affair.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: August 29, 2013 08:42PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots
> of talent but we have to see how well they come
> together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem,
> no superstars, but they relied on each other.
>
> Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle
> team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or
> in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of
> steam.
>
> If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we
> should do fine
There living up to the hype... Centreville is up 30-0 with 6 minutes to go in the second quarter, and West Po is not a bad team they are beating up on. Wow.
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> Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots
> of talent but we have to see how well they come
> together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem,
> no superstars, but they relied on each other.
>
> Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle
> team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or
> in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of
> steam.
>
> If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we
> should do fine
There living up to the hype... Centreville is up 30-0 with 6 minutes to go in the second quarter, and West Po is not a bad team they are beating up on. Wow.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TShizz
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:06PM
It's only the 2nd quarter and Lee is killing Edison 47-27. I wonder if Lee can compete in the patriot district this year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WildCats are the stuff!
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:08PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Football Fever Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Inquisitive One. I am right there with you.
> Lots
> > of talent but we have to see how well they come
> > together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> > Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> > they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> > Henderson. That was a team. Outside of
> Ekanmem,
> > no superstars, but they relied on each other.
> >
> > Last year's WePo team beat a very injured
> CVIlle
> > team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior
> or
> > in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> > gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out
> of
> > steam.
> >
> > If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had,
> we
> > should do fine
>
>
> There living up to the hype... Centreville is up
> 30-0 with 6 minutes to go in the second quarter,
> and West Po is not a bad team they are beating up
> on. Wow.
Now 44-0 at the half. Wowza!!!
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> Football Fever Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Inquisitive One. I am right there with you.
> Lots
> > of talent but we have to see how well they come
> > together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> > Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> > they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> > Henderson. That was a team. Outside of
> Ekanmem,
> > no superstars, but they relied on each other.
> >
> > Last year's WePo team beat a very injured
> CVIlle
> > team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior
> or
> > in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> > gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out
> of
> > steam.
> >
> > If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had,
> we
> > should do fine
>
>
> There living up to the hype... Centreville is up
> 30-0 with 6 minutes to go in the second quarter,
> and West Po is not a bad team they are beating up
> on. Wow.
Now 44-0 at the half. Wowza!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:08PM
Wow indeed. Dominant first half. Two TD receptions, two turnovers, scored on all five possessions and a safety. Good night work. Let the subs get some experience.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:21PM
TShizz Wrote:
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> It's only the 2nd quarter and Lee is killing
> Edison 47-27. I wonder if Lee can compete in the
> patriot district this year?
We'll see. Seeing them play Chantilly next week will be a good indicator.
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> It's only the 2nd quarter and Lee is killing
> Edison 47-27. I wonder if Lee can compete in the
> patriot district this year?
We'll see. Seeing them play Chantilly next week will be a good indicator.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:30PM
Tomorrow's game between LB and Robo will be a good indicator of how good LB is. LB should win by 18. Anything less will be a disappointment.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
blah2
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:41PM
> What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed
> Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a Concorde
> team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have 2
> scrimmage at once, what you are saying is making
> no sense...
back in the seventies Garfield would routinely crush Northern Va teams. Long time ago, and they had a size advantage back then but they also had much lower budgets etc. it could happen.
> Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a Concorde
> team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have 2
> scrimmage at once, what you are saying is making
> no sense...
back in the seventies Garfield would routinely crush Northern Va teams. Long time ago, and they had a size advantage back then but they also had much lower budgets etc. it could happen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
blah = stupid
()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:52PM
blah gives a GREAT history lesson! Heard anything about the Titanic lately you moron? Pigs could also fly you idiot...........
blah2 Wrote:
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> > What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed
> > Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a
> Concorde
> > team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have
> 2
> > scrimmage at once, what you are saying is
> making
> > no sense...
>
> back in the seventies Garfield would routinely
> crush Northern Va teams. Long time ago, and they
> had a size advantage back then but they also had
> much lower budgets etc. it could happen.
blah2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > What are you talking about Chantilly destroyed
> > Garfield, Garfield cannot compete with a
> Concorde
> > team, keep dreaming. Garfield happened to have
> 2
> > scrimmage at once, what you are saying is
> making
> > no sense...
>
> back in the seventies Garfield would routinely
> crush Northern Va teams. Long time ago, and they
> had a size advantage back then but they also had
> much lower budgets etc. it could happen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
top rated defense
()
Date: August 29, 2013 10:14PM
3rd quarter
Lee - 75
Edison - 40
I can not wait to see stats in the Post tomorrow
Lee - 75
Edison - 40
I can not wait to see stats in the Post tomorrow
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really....talent
()
Date: August 29, 2013 10:20PM
Where are the haters who said I was crazy for my Centreville score of 49 14?
Centreville will not lose all season. They will not even be in a close game all season. If they don't will 2 state titles Haddock should be embarrassed!!
Centreville will not lose all season. They will not even be in a close game all season. If they don't will 2 state titles Haddock should be embarrassed!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Scores
()
Date: August 29, 2013 11:50PM
Anybody got the Final scores for games? Mostly interested in the Centreville/WestPo game and the shoot out that turned out to be Lee/Edison.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Scores
()
Date: August 29, 2013 11:50PM
Anybody got the Final scores for games? Mostly interested in the Centreville/WestPo game and the shoot out that turned out to be Lee/Edison.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillebacker
()
Date: August 30, 2013 12:52AM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots
> of talent but we have to see how well they come
> together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem,
> no superstars, but they relied on each other.
>
> Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle
> team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or
> in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of
> steam.
>
> If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we
> should do fine
Nothing to worry about folks. Centreville turned this game into a joke early and often. 44-0 at half with Scott Walter hitting Charles Tutt for 2 long touchdown passes and AJ Turner for another. Chase Heiner ran for a TD along with Xavier Nickens-Yzer and a defensive fumble recovery and a safety equal the half time score and ball game. The defense held West Pot and Demornay to nothing until the 4th quarter in the last seconds and the starters laughing on the sidelines gave a long TD pass to make it 51-7. Total Beat down.
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> Inquisitive One. I am right there with you. Lots
> of talent but we have to see how well they come
> together as a team and not listen to the hype.
> Two years ago, with all of that CVille talent,
> they beat Westpo 49-10 and a young Caleb
> Henderson. That was a team. Outside of Ekanmem,
> no superstars, but they relied on each other.
>
> Last year's WePo team beat a very injured CVIlle
> team. I think 3 or 4 started were hurt prior or
> in that game and Hadoock was trying to fill the
> gaps. We were up 20-10 at halftime and ran out of
> steam.
>
> If we can stop the big plays that Hylton had, we
> should do fine
Nothing to worry about folks. Centreville turned this game into a joke early and often. 44-0 at half with Scott Walter hitting Charles Tutt for 2 long touchdown passes and AJ Turner for another. Chase Heiner ran for a TD along with Xavier Nickens-Yzer and a defensive fumble recovery and a safety equal the half time score and ball game. The defense held West Pot and Demornay to nothing until the 4th quarter in the last seconds and the starters laughing on the sidelines gave a long TD pass to make it 51-7. Total Beat down.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DanTheMan
()
Date: August 30, 2013 01:33AM
Cville won 51-0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
read deal cville
()
Date: August 30, 2013 07:43AM
cville 2013 Wrote:
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> I just feel sorry for anyone playing centreville
> this year. After what I saw them do to Hylton, all
> I can say is wow...
And West Potomac...
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> I just feel sorry for anyone playing centreville
> this year. After what I saw them do to Hylton, all
> I can say is wow...
And West Potomac...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LJS
()
Date: August 30, 2013 07:50AM
Centreville West Potomac 51-7
Coolidge Yorktown 0-49
Edison Lee 61-75
Fairfax W.T. Woodson 14-7
From the Washington Post.
Coolidge Yorktown 0-49
Edison Lee 61-75
Fairfax W.T. Woodson 14-7
From the Washington Post.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FCPS EDUK8TR
()
Date: August 30, 2013 08:04AM
Lee 75 Edison 61? Holy cow!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
reasoning
()
Date: August 30, 2013 08:59AM
both teams suck
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat Fan
()
Date: August 30, 2013 09:33AM
Really....talent Wrote:
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> If they
> don't will 2 state titles Haddock should be
> embarrassed!!
Whether they win a state title or not, it is clear Haddock is one of the best coaches in the region if not the best... He has turned around that program and has them as strong as ever with much better opponents than the Wildcats had back in the good old days before 2000.
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> If they
> don't will 2 state titles Haddock should be
> embarrassed!!
Whether they win a state title or not, it is clear Haddock is one of the best coaches in the region if not the best... He has turned around that program and has them as strong as ever with much better opponents than the Wildcats had back in the good old days before 2000.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DanTheMan
()
Date: August 30, 2013 12:21PM
CORRECTION: 51-7... still wow
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RatedRKO
()
Date: August 30, 2013 12:29PM
So does the Lee-Edison game high scoring due to good explosive offenses or just downright terrible defense?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nbs
()
Date: August 30, 2013 01:00PM
RatedRKO Wrote:
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> So does the Lee-Edison game high scoring due to
> good explosive offenses or just downright terrible
> defense?
I think Lee has a couple electric players on offense, but nothing too special. Their defense however is terrible.
Edison scored most of their points in the 2nd half and late in the game, against many of Lee's backups. So I think Edison still sucks.
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> So does the Lee-Edison game high scoring due to
> good explosive offenses or just downright terrible
> defense?
I think Lee has a couple electric players on offense, but nothing too special. Their defense however is terrible.
Edison scored most of their points in the 2nd half and late in the game, against many of Lee's backups. So I think Edison still sucks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldawg
()
Date: August 30, 2013 02:13PM
"Where are the haters who said I was crazy for my Centreville score of 49 14?
Centreville will not lose all season. They will not even be in a close game all season. If they don't will 2 state titles Haddock should be embarrassed!!"
Don't sleep on Westfied.
The D will be great, the RB's will be great and playmakers on the outside. They need to replace the production they got from QB last year, but if their QB can manage the game, they are not an easy out for anyone----including C'Ville.
Centreville will not lose all season. They will not even be in a close game all season. If they don't will 2 state titles Haddock should be embarrassed!!"
Don't sleep on Westfied.
The D will be great, the RB's will be great and playmakers on the outside. They need to replace the production they got from QB last year, but if their QB can manage the game, they are not an easy out for anyone----including C'Ville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Any scores?
()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:34PM
Someone say something.........
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostradamus
()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:37PM
TC Williams was crushing Oakton 30 something to 2 when I left in the 4th quarter. And the only reason Oakton scored a safety was because TC's QB inadvertently stepped out of the end zone.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The ROck
()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:41PM
Welcome back to Coach Dan Meier:
Lake Braddock 38
Robinson 8
3rd Quarter
LOL
ROFLMAO
Meier's Rams are pussies without steroids.
Lake Braddock 38
Robinson 8
3rd Quarter
LOL
ROFLMAO
Meier's Rams are pussies without steroids.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:57PM
Was at the Westfield Game. Was 7-7 at the half and a combination of a 70 yd TD run on the first play of the second half and a 99 yd TD run after a long Hayfield drive and score basically put the game away
Lot of mistakes and fumbles by both teams but it hurt Hayfield more. Hayfield who has a scholarship QB Essentially stopped throwing in the second half
Lot of mistakes and fumbles by both teams but it hurt Hayfield more. Hayfield who has a scholarship QB Essentially stopped throwing in the second half
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
stallions
()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:59PM
Mount Vernon 7
South County 56
South County 56
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bruins Bash
()
Date: August 30, 2013 11:05PM
Final:
Lake Braddock 38
Robinson 22
LB looks like the real deal...
Lake Braddock 38
Robinson 22
LB looks like the real deal...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: August 30, 2013 11:11PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Was at the Westfield Game. Was 7-7 at the half and
> a combination of a 70 yd TD run on the first play
> of the second half and a 99 yd TD run after a long
> Hayfield drive and score basically put the game
> away
>
> Lot of mistakes and fumbles by both teams but it
> hurt Hayfield more. Hayfield who has a
> scholarship QB Essentially stopped throwing in
> the second half
Hayfield played tough - they should win at least 6 games this year. Westfield's offense looked pretty inexperienced.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Was at the Westfield Game. Was 7-7 at the half and
> a combination of a 70 yd TD run on the first play
> of the second half and a 99 yd TD run after a long
> Hayfield drive and score basically put the game
> away
>
> Lot of mistakes and fumbles by both teams but it
> hurt Hayfield more. Hayfield who has a
> scholarship QB Essentially stopped throwing in
> the second half
Hayfield played tough - they should win at least 6 games this year. Westfield's offense looked pretty inexperienced.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheKicker
()
Date: August 31, 2013 10:10AM
Joe Wilson was hurt in the 2nd quarter and did not return. He is their whole team, and to be without him for any length of time is a huge blow for the Rams. I'm surprised Robinson even scored 14 points in the second half. Anyone know what he did?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Scores
()
Date: August 31, 2013 10:20AM
Centreville 51 @ West Potomac 7
Fairfax 14 @ Woodson 7
Edison 61 @ Lee 75
Coolidge (DC) 0 @ Yorktown 49
Lake Braddock 38 @ Robinson 22
Hayfield 13 @ Westfield 35
T.C. Williams 38 @ Oakton 2
Mount Vernon 7 @ South County 56
Fairfax 14 @ Woodson 7
Edison 61 @ Lee 75
Coolidge (DC) 0 @ Yorktown 49
Lake Braddock 38 @ Robinson 22
Hayfield 13 @ Westfield 35
T.C. Williams 38 @ Oakton 2
Mount Vernon 7 @ South County 56
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: August 31, 2013 10:40AM
Lake Braddock was about two touchdowns better than Robinson. I know they were up 30, but a couple horrendous calls and a crazy play where an interception was fumbled into the hands of a receiver for a touchdown put Robinson in that situation. Robinson got a couple meaningless touchdowns late in the fourth which made the score pretty accurate.
Alexander and Sica are by far the best wide receiver duo in the region. Everyone knew about Alexander, but Sica was huge. Lake Braddock was bigger across the board it seemed like. They are going to be an incredibly difficult offense to stop with 3 FBS caliber players.
Robinson is not going to be good this year. They don’t have much of a passing game and teams should continue to key on Wilson. Year 1 with Meier though is a rebuild. I feel pretty confident saying they will probably be 4th in the Concorde this year. Centreville, Westfield, Chantilly, Robinson, Oakton, Herndon in that order. I am shocked at how bad Oakton is right now, they got drubbed last night and in both of their scrimmages. Honestly maybe Herndon finishes above them, I’ve heard they’ve gotten better but have not seen them.
Alexander and Sica are by far the best wide receiver duo in the region. Everyone knew about Alexander, but Sica was huge. Lake Braddock was bigger across the board it seemed like. They are going to be an incredibly difficult offense to stop with 3 FBS caliber players.
Robinson is not going to be good this year. They don’t have much of a passing game and teams should continue to key on Wilson. Year 1 with Meier though is a rebuild. I feel pretty confident saying they will probably be 4th in the Concorde this year. Centreville, Westfield, Chantilly, Robinson, Oakton, Herndon in that order. I am shocked at how bad Oakton is right now, they got drubbed last night and in both of their scrimmages. Honestly maybe Herndon finishes above them, I’ve heard they’ve gotten better but have not seen them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram Fan
()
Date: August 31, 2013 11:03AM
You are not understanding why he came back, when you make statements like "year one with Meier is a rebuild." First of all he is only back for one year. He will be taking an admin job somewhere after this year. Secondly and most important, he believes there is no need for a rebuild. That is why he did not give Taylor any additional time to get them back on track. He believes the talent at Robinson now, along with his brilliant offensive mind and head coaching, can return Robinson to the glory years this season. At least he believed that till last night. This is not the 1990's, the game has evolved and changed and he is lost. It is a joke that he fired the last coach, took the job himself and then put that product on the field last night.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NoNoSoCo
()
Date: August 31, 2013 11:10AM
Anybody at the South County game? Seen there score 56-7. Know they graduate Oren Burke so who they got? Are they anywhere close to 2011 Stallions? Or they just beat up on weak MV team?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
soco
()
Date: August 31, 2013 11:20AM
South County could've won that game with 80 or 90 points if they didn't put in backups and the clock didn't get run down in the second half. It was 49-7 at halftime.
Symmes is a good QB. The 2011 team was dominant on D. This team looks good on both sides. 7.5 sacks in the first half alone.
Mt Vernon only scored because their drive was extended after a bunch of sideline penalties on the staff
That said, who knows how they'll do against better teams
Symmes is a good QB. The 2011 team was dominant on D. This team looks good on both sides. 7.5 sacks in the first half alone.
Mt Vernon only scored because their drive was extended after a bunch of sideline penalties on the staff
That said, who knows how they'll do against better teams
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spectator
()
Date: August 31, 2013 12:47PM
Meier was actually running the offense really well and they looked good until Wilson got hurt, and if it wasn't for the two fumbles in the first half it would have been a very close game. Btw Henderson was very inconsistent for a four star prospect and got lucky on a few td's. lb has no class!!! After receiving a punt they kicked the ball back to Robinson in a manner of "we're the best, you are pathetic".
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LJS
()
Date: August 31, 2013 01:13PM
Wait, did LB punt back to Robinson on 1st down???
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oh well
()
Date: August 31, 2013 04:07PM
5A schools in Fairfax County are cooked! The final four in this year's 5A might all be Loudoun schools, unless they have to play each other before getting that far.
Briar Woods destroyed a decent Brooke Point program, and Broad Run drove 4 hours to lay the wood to a physically talented Booker T. Washington team from the 757.
Then Woodgrove rolls it up on Freedom in their first 5A game, and Tuscarora beats a solid Kettle Run team in their place.
Oh, and Stone Bridge didn't even play. The balance of power has shifted. Stone Bridge is going to beat Braddock AND Westfield before playing the Little Sisters of the Poor that is known as their conference.
Briar Woods destroyed a decent Brooke Point program, and Broad Run drove 4 hours to lay the wood to a physically talented Booker T. Washington team from the 757.
Then Woodgrove rolls it up on Freedom in their first 5A game, and Tuscarora beats a solid Kettle Run team in their place.
Oh, and Stone Bridge didn't even play. The balance of power has shifted. Stone Bridge is going to beat Braddock AND Westfield before playing the Little Sisters of the Poor that is known as their conference.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram Booster
()
Date: August 31, 2013 04:30PM
Braddock simply outplayed Robinson tonight, I thought both teams played with class.
The punt you are referring too isnt used very much, but they were trying to score. Here is the rule:
Braddock tried a free kick/fair catch kick that allows a team that has just made a fair catch to attempt a free kick from the spot of the catch. The kick must be either a place kick or a drop kick, and if it passes over the uprights and of the defensive team's goal, three points is scored to the offensive team.
The punt you are referring too isnt used very much, but they were trying to score. Here is the rule:
Braddock tried a free kick/fair catch kick that allows a team that has just made a fair catch to attempt a free kick from the spot of the catch. The kick must be either a place kick or a drop kick, and if it passes over the uprights and of the defensive team's goal, three points is scored to the offensive team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheKicker
()
Date: August 31, 2013 05:32PM
Oh well Wrote:
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> Oh, and Stone Bridge didn't even play. The
> balance of power has shifted. Stone Bridge is
> going to beat Braddock AND Westfield before
> playing the Little Sisters of the Poor that is
> known as their conference.
I completely agree with you except that I don't think Stone Bridge will beat both Westfield and Braddock. I think Braddock will win by 7 or 10 and Westfield will lose by about that margin. Both of those games could easily go the other way, but I think they win one and lose one. I really agree that the 5A powers are in Loudoun but I think the 6A schools collectively are a little bit better.
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> Oh, and Stone Bridge didn't even play. The
> balance of power has shifted. Stone Bridge is
> going to beat Braddock AND Westfield before
> playing the Little Sisters of the Poor that is
> known as their conference.
I completely agree with you except that I don't think Stone Bridge will beat both Westfield and Braddock. I think Braddock will win by 7 or 10 and Westfield will lose by about that margin. Both of those games could easily go the other way, but I think they win one and lose one. I really agree that the 5A powers are in Loudoun but I think the 6A schools collectively are a little bit better.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concordekings
()
Date: August 31, 2013 07:41PM
RatedRKO Wrote:
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> So does the Lee-Edison game high scoring due to
> good explosive offenses or just downright terrible
> defense?
yea...be ready this friday when chantilly shuts lee out and sends them back to the hood. keep running up scores against edison, lets see you try that shit friday.
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> So does the Lee-Edison game high scoring due to
> good explosive offenses or just downright terrible
> defense?
yea...be ready this friday when chantilly shuts lee out and sends them back to the hood. keep running up scores against edison, lets see you try that shit friday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Horus
()
Date: August 31, 2013 07:54PM
So, anyone think Langley has a shot to beat Yorktown next friday?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
d.eaton
()
Date: August 31, 2013 09:31PM
Not with Howerton coaching.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: August 31, 2013 10:48PM
Soco by the looks of it could go 10-0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jacky
()
Date: August 31, 2013 10:58PM
What about tc?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HannesAdler27586
()
Date: August 31, 2013 11:31PM
My theory is that the Westfield bulldogs shall dominate the completion in this county. We beaten several rivals, examples would include Herndon High, South Lakes, Chantilly, and so on. I can go on and on about this, I can assure you folks that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
observer2
()
Date: September 01, 2013 12:02AM
Did I just see a Concorde team fan just smack talk about Lee? Man, in the old days Concorde teams wouldn't even acknowledge their existence. I guess Lee is moving up in the world if they are getting hated on for beating a team they should be considered even with (Edison) by 14 points.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hannes Adler is the Sofa King
()
Date: September 01, 2013 12:07AM
Westfield shall dominate rivals... then goes on to name Herndon and South Lakes.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Langley has no shot to beat Yorktown. Poorly coached fast black athletes always beat poorly coached white future CEO's, politicians, and narcs/snitches.
TC's win looks real impressive now, but let's just see how bad Oakton truly is this year.
Stone Bridge will beat Braddock by at least two touchdowns.
Langley has no shot to beat Yorktown. Poorly coached fast black athletes always beat poorly coached white future CEO's, politicians, and narcs/snitches.
TC's win looks real impressive now, but let's just see how bad Oakton truly is this year.
Stone Bridge will beat Braddock by at least two touchdowns.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HannesAdler27586
()
Date: September 01, 2013 12:15AM
Well, I don't play football. So yeah, fuck off.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HannesAdler27586
()
Date: September 01, 2013 12:16AM
But to be fair, yeah oakton sucks at football.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dan6676544
()
Date: September 01, 2013 02:36AM
^No, wakefield sucks at football lol.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: September 01, 2013 08:24AM
Oakton beat those Bulldogs you were hyping in the Regional Final last year. Westfield always a bridesmaid never a bride. You can win all the regular season games you like but if you can't win the big one then people will hate.
Oakton is not as good this season I agree. They will win games and they will make the playoffs. Look for them to right the ship this week at Madison. They will finish 6-4 5-5 which around here may be good enough to squeak in with quality power points.
Oakton is not as good this season I agree. They will win games and they will make the playoffs. Look for them to right the ship this week at Madison. They will finish 6-4 5-5 which around here may be good enough to squeak in with quality power points.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WeWillSee
()
Date: September 01, 2013 10:59AM
We'll see how good TC is when they play Centreville Friday night. TC has some good atheletes, but I'd be surprised if they don't get blown away by Cville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: September 01, 2013 11:45AM
Really...talent Wrote:
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> Oakton beat those Bulldogs you were hyping in the
> Regional Final last year. Westfield always a
> bridesmaid never a bride. You can win all the
> regular season games you like but if you can't win
> the big one then people will hate.
>
> Oakton is not as good this season I agree. They
> will win games and they will make the playoffs.
> Look for them to right the ship this week at
> Madison. They will finish 6-4 5-5 which around
> here may be good enough to squeak in with quality
> power points.
Oakton does have a real easy out of conference schedule. They get to play Woodson and West Springfield, I do not think they beat Madison though. Madison will finally get a win this year against Oakton calling it now. I say they win 4 games and miss the playoffs.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Oakton beat those Bulldogs you were hyping in the
> Regional Final last year. Westfield always a
> bridesmaid never a bride. You can win all the
> regular season games you like but if you can't win
> the big one then people will hate.
>
> Oakton is not as good this season I agree. They
> will win games and they will make the playoffs.
> Look for them to right the ship this week at
> Madison. They will finish 6-4 5-5 which around
> here may be good enough to squeak in with quality
> power points.
Oakton does have a real easy out of conference schedule. They get to play Woodson and West Springfield, I do not think they beat Madison though. Madison will finally get a win this year against Oakton calling it now. I say they win 4 games and miss the playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: September 01, 2013 11:51AM
Hey- why are you saying West Springfield is an easy game? Don't you know the clowns over there have closed their practices to the public? As if anyone would watch them. Can't imagine what the only coach in the state of VA that Andy could find to take that job is going to come up with. Edison must be quaking in fear. Edison should beat them- which says all that needs to be said about WS athletic dept.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 01, 2013 11:56AM
Here is the spread for week 2.
Edison @ West Springfield (-7.0)
Falls Church (-1.5) @ Annandale
Hayfield @ South County (-6.5) *this is a really good game
Lake Braddock @ Stone Bridge (-3.0) *Game of the Week
Lee @ Chantilly (-21.0)
Madison @ Oakton (-6.0)
Marshall (-6.5) @ Wakefield
Mount Vernon @ Herndon (-17.0)
Stuart @ Jefferson (-20.0)
TC Williams @ Centreville (-28.0)
Woodson @ Robinson (-24.0)
Washington Lee (-7.0) @ McLean
West Potomac (-7.0) @ Fairfax
Westfield (-35.0) @ South Lakes
Yorktown (-24.0) @ Langley
Edison @ West Springfield (-7.0)
Falls Church (-1.5) @ Annandale
Hayfield @ South County (-6.5) *this is a really good game
Lake Braddock @ Stone Bridge (-3.0) *Game of the Week
Lee @ Chantilly (-21.0)
Madison @ Oakton (-6.0)
Marshall (-6.5) @ Wakefield
Mount Vernon @ Herndon (-17.0)
Stuart @ Jefferson (-20.0)
TC Williams @ Centreville (-28.0)
Woodson @ Robinson (-24.0)
Washington Lee (-7.0) @ McLean
West Potomac (-7.0) @ Fairfax
Westfield (-35.0) @ South Lakes
Yorktown (-24.0) @ Langley
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
West Lakes
()
Date: September 01, 2013 12:10PM
I wish I could make a legal wager on your games and their pointspreads.
Westfield beats South Lakes by 49 or more....
And I find it hard to beleive that a horrid Herndon team can be favored by 17 over any team, but they just might do it against woeful Mt. Vernon.
Over/under for Stone Bridge/Braddock is 72!
Westfield beats South Lakes by 49 or more....
And I find it hard to beleive that a horrid Herndon team can be favored by 17 over any team, but they just might do it against woeful Mt. Vernon.
Over/under for Stone Bridge/Braddock is 72!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimfeist
()
Date: September 01, 2013 01:05PM
The spread for Stone Bridge game is 3.5, not 3.
Get your fucking lines straight!
Get your fucking lines straight!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 01, 2013 01:27PM
Do you think Centreville is that strong to beat TC by that margin? If they do, I will believe they are the real deal
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fan24052
()
Date: September 01, 2013 03:30PM
i think woodson will be held back by their offense.. their defense played lights out holding nick scott in check except for 2 big plays..i think they can pull big upsets vs braddock, TC, and soco
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 01, 2013 03:47PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Do you think Centreville is that strong to beat TC
> by that margin? If they do, I will believe they
> are the real deal
Spread does not have to be that much in order to make a statement. 17 is more realistic because TC is a very good team this year. Maybe good enough to give LB a bit of a run.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Do you think Centreville is that strong to beat TC
> by that margin? If they do, I will believe they
> are the real deal
Spread does not have to be that much in order to make a statement. 17 is more realistic because TC is a very good team this year. Maybe good enough to give LB a bit of a run.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
scores
()
Date: September 01, 2013 05:47PM
then this ranks the best of the patriot district:
1- Lake Braddock-clearly head and shoulders above the rest
2- TC- havent seen them play as a wt woodson fan, but crushing oakton proves something
3- south county
4- west potomac
5- woodson-should be a year older, more experienced.
6- west springield-new staff brings new energy? a few more wins?
7- lee
8- annandale
what do you think?
1- Lake Braddock-clearly head and shoulders above the rest
2- TC- havent seen them play as a wt woodson fan, but crushing oakton proves something
3- south county
4- west potomac
5- woodson-should be a year older, more experienced.
6- west springield-new staff brings new energy? a few more wins?
7- lee
8- annandale
what do you think?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 01, 2013 06:18PM
If Centreville handles TC Williams, Oakton will likely really be concerned when they play them
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mactown
()
Date: September 01, 2013 06:44PM
Although they only won 4 games last year, I think Mclean is going to be a threat in the Liberty District this year. A lot of returning starters and this is their second year with the new "Worek" coaching staff. Matchups like Madison/Mclean and Fairfax/Mclean will be fun to watch
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Duane Epperson
()
Date: September 01, 2013 06:50PM
Mclean blows....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Whatttt
()
Date: September 01, 2013 06:54PM
Wtf happened to my alma mater? I didn't play football at Robinson bc I like to do drugs instead but we ran shit back in 2002.
Guess Bendorf and the boys really were pumped full of roids and that's why we won state my senior year (2002). Looks like the squad has been shit since...
Any thoughts/rumors on Robinson steroids eArly 2000s?
Guess Bendorf and the boys really were pumped full of roids and that's why we won state my senior year (2002). Looks like the squad has been shit since...
Any thoughts/rumors on Robinson steroids eArly 2000s?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Love Robinison
()
Date: September 01, 2013 07:05PM
Here are winner for week 2.
Edison 20 @ West Springfield 21
Falls Church 6 @ Annandale 35
Hayfield 13 @ South County 36 ...this is a really big blow out
Lake Braddock 27 @ Stone Bridge 24 *Game of the Week
Lee 20 @ Chantilly 42
Madison 18 @ Oakton 28
Marshall 31 @ Wakefield 12
Mount Vernon 13 @ Herndon 17
Stuart 20 @ Jefferson 17
TC Williams 21 @ Centreville 35
Woodson 7 @ Robinson 28
Washington Lee 24 @ McLean 23
West Potomac 27 @ Fairfax 24
Westfield 42 @ South Lakes 0
Yorktown 28 @ Langley 30
Edison 20 @ West Springfield 21
Falls Church 6 @ Annandale 35
Hayfield 13 @ South County 36 ...this is a really big blow out
Lake Braddock 27 @ Stone Bridge 24 *Game of the Week
Lee 20 @ Chantilly 42
Madison 18 @ Oakton 28
Marshall 31 @ Wakefield 12
Mount Vernon 13 @ Herndon 17
Stuart 20 @ Jefferson 17
TC Williams 21 @ Centreville 35
Woodson 7 @ Robinson 28
Washington Lee 24 @ McLean 23
West Potomac 27 @ Fairfax 24
Westfield 42 @ South Lakes 0
Yorktown 28 @ Langley 30
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: September 02, 2013 12:50AM
Love Robinison Wrote:
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> Here are winner for week 2.
>
> Edison 20 @ West Springfield 21
> Falls Church 6 @ Annandale 35
> Hayfield 13 @ South County 36 ...this is a really
> big blow out
> Lake Braddock 27 @ Stone Bridge 24 *Game of the
> Week
> Lee 20 @ Chantilly 42
> Madison 18 @ Oakton 28
> Marshall 31 @ Wakefield 12
> Mount Vernon 13 @ Herndon 17
> Stuart 20 @ Jefferson 17
> TC Williams 21 @ Centreville 35
> Woodson 7 @ Robinson 28
> Washington Lee 24 @ McLean 23
> West Potomac 27 @ Fairfax 24
> Westfield 42 @ South Lakes 0
> Yorktown 28 @ Langley 30
No way Langley beats Yorktown... I know nothing about TJ and Stuart but TJ did beat them 42-0 last year, that alone leads me to believe TJ is probably a little better.
How about Marshall vs. Wakefield? Battle of 0-10 teams from last year. One team is walking away very happy...
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here are winner for week 2.
>
> Edison 20 @ West Springfield 21
> Falls Church 6 @ Annandale 35
> Hayfield 13 @ South County 36 ...this is a really
> big blow out
> Lake Braddock 27 @ Stone Bridge 24 *Game of the
> Week
> Lee 20 @ Chantilly 42
> Madison 18 @ Oakton 28
> Marshall 31 @ Wakefield 12
> Mount Vernon 13 @ Herndon 17
> Stuart 20 @ Jefferson 17
> TC Williams 21 @ Centreville 35
> Woodson 7 @ Robinson 28
> Washington Lee 24 @ McLean 23
> West Potomac 27 @ Fairfax 24
> Westfield 42 @ South Lakes 0
> Yorktown 28 @ Langley 30
No way Langley beats Yorktown... I know nothing about TJ and Stuart but TJ did beat them 42-0 last year, that alone leads me to believe TJ is probably a little better.
How about Marshall vs. Wakefield? Battle of 0-10 teams from last year. One team is walking away very happy...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Boosters
()
Date: September 02, 2013 08:21AM
fan24052 Wrote:
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> i think woodson will be held back by their
> offense.. their defense played lights out holding
> nick scott in check except for 2 big plays..i
> think they can pull big upsets vs braddock, TC,
> and soco
Coach Bianchi get off the message board. This guy ??? What's wrong with these coaches .
-------------------------------------------------------
> i think woodson will be held back by their
> offense.. their defense played lights out holding
> nick scott in check except for 2 big plays..i
> think they can pull big upsets vs braddock, TC,
> and soco
Coach Bianchi get off the message board. This guy ??? What's wrong with these coaches .
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Buddy Garrity
()
Date: September 02, 2013 12:14PM
Coaches aren't on these sites, shame on you for slander.
None of these teams would come close up against the Dillon Panthers.
None of these teams would come close up against the Dillon Panthers.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Luke Skywalker
()
Date: September 02, 2013 09:22PM
The Rams of the 2000s were royal roid-ragers. Beating up opponents on the gridiron and terrorizing students all over the neighborhoods. They had an expense account at the local GNC and could purchase all the supplements they wanted. They can thank their lucky stars no one died or was killed by all the roiding. Bendorf and Meier, what say you?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
week 2
()
Date: September 04, 2013 09:27AM
Who is winning week 2?
>Edison @ West Springfield
> Falls Church @ Annandale
> Hayfield @ South County
> Lake Braddock @ Stone Bridge
> Lee @ Chantilly
> Madison @ Oakton
> Marshall @ Wakefield
> Mount Vernon @ Herndon
> Stuart @ Jefferson
> TC Williams @ Centreville
> Woodson @ Robinson
> Washington Lee @ McLean
> West Potomac @ Fairfax
> Westfield @ South Lakes
> Yorktown @ Langley
>Edison @ West Springfield
> Falls Church @ Annandale
> Hayfield @ South County
> Lake Braddock @ Stone Bridge
> Lee @ Chantilly
> Madison @ Oakton
> Marshall @ Wakefield
> Mount Vernon @ Herndon
> Stuart @ Jefferson
> TC Williams @ Centreville
> Woodson @ Robinson
> Washington Lee @ McLean
> West Potomac @ Fairfax
> Westfield @ South Lakes
> Yorktown @ Langley
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Johnny
()
Date: September 04, 2013 11:24AM
All of the home teams except Langley
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
really?
()
Date: September 04, 2013 01:08PM
Johnny Wrote:
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> All of the home teams except Langley
So you like South Lakes over Westfield?
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> All of the home teams except Langley
So you like South Lakes over Westfield?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dorky
()
Date: September 04, 2013 01:38PM
No way that SL will beat Westfield, Annandale will not beat Falls Church, Mclean will not beat W&L, and West Springfield will not beat Edison.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HS football is for LOSERS
()
Date: September 04, 2013 01:57PM
How does football get you a job? Oh, yeah, ask Jerry Sandusky or George Allen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Johnny
()
Date: September 04, 2013 02:39PM
Obviously Westfield will win tho
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 04, 2013 02:50PM
I understand Madison lost a lot but I think Oakton lost more. Would not surprise me to see Oakton lose. The West Potomac Game will be interesting to see if they can bounce back from the Centreville beating.
The LB/SB game is the game to watch. I am going to try to pick it up on my PC via Game Day while attending another game Friday.
The LB/SB game is the game to watch. I am going to try to pick it up on my PC via Game Day while attending another game Friday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LancerLOL
()
Date: September 04, 2013 09:18PM
Lee isn't part of the Patriot District anymore but if I were I would rank them right above Annandale. Nothing Higher.
scores Wrote:
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> then this ranks the best of the patriot district:
>
>
> 1- Lake Braddock-clearly head and shoulders above
> the rest
> 2- TC- havent seen them play as a wt woodson fan,
> but crushing oakton proves something
> 3- south county
> 4- west potomac
> 5- woodson-should be a year older, more
> experienced.
> 6- west springield-new staff brings new energy? a
> few more wins?
> 7- lee
> 8- annandale
>
> what do you think?
scores Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> then this ranks the best of the patriot district:
>
>
> 1- Lake Braddock-clearly head and shoulders above
> the rest
> 2- TC- havent seen them play as a wt woodson fan,
> but crushing oakton proves something
> 3- south county
> 4- west potomac
> 5- woodson-should be a year older, more
> experienced.
> 6- west springield-new staff brings new energy? a
> few more wins?
> 7- lee
> 8- annandale
>
> what do you think?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LancerLOLfail
()
Date: September 04, 2013 09:20PM
that exactly what he said...
LancerLOL Wrote:
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> Lee isn't part of the Patriot District anymore but
> if I were I would rank them right above Annandale.
> Nothing Higher.
>
> scores Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > then this ranks the best of the patriot
> district:
> >
> >
> > 1- Lake Braddock-clearly head and shoulders
> above
> > the rest
> > 2- TC- havent seen them play as a wt woodson
> fan,
> > but crushing oakton proves something
> > 3- south county
> > 4- west potomac
> > 5- woodson-should be a year older, more
> > experienced.
> > 6- west springield-new staff brings new energy?
> a
> > few more wins?
> > 7- lee
> > 8- annandale
> >
> > what do you think?
LancerLOL Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lee isn't part of the Patriot District anymore but
> if I were I would rank them right above Annandale.
> Nothing Higher.
>
> scores Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > then this ranks the best of the patriot
> district:
> >
> >
> > 1- Lake Braddock-clearly head and shoulders
> above
> > the rest
> > 2- TC- havent seen them play as a wt woodson
> fan,
> > but crushing oakton proves something
> > 3- south county
> > 4- west potomac
> > 5- woodson-should be a year older, more
> > experienced.
> > 6- west springield-new staff brings new energy?
> a
> > few more wins?
> > 7- lee
> > 8- annandale
> >
> > what do you think?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Raspy
()
Date: September 04, 2013 09:56PM
Langley's shot at beating Yorktown all hinge on whether they can stop MJ Stewart which they were unable to do last year when they actually had some talented players. But they lost pretty much all of them, especially on defense, so I doubt they have any chance whatsoever. I'm guessing it will be 35-7 Yorktown, and that's being generous. Maybe that meathead Howerton should focus on developing his crap skill players instead of his perennially fat, lethargic line that can only run block.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
It's not that hard!
()
Date: September 05, 2013 02:15PM
LancerLOL Wrote:
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> Lee isn't part of the Patriot District anymore but
> . . .
The new classification system did NOTHING to the districts - all districts in our area are UNCHANGED and Lee is still in the PATRIOT district. There are still all-district teams and district champs (based on district record alone in football). In all sports (I think) but football there are also conference champs. Football just uses power points to determine the 16 playoff teams.
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> Lee isn't part of the Patriot District anymore but
> . . .
The new classification system did NOTHING to the districts - all districts in our area are UNCHANGED and Lee is still in the PATRIOT district. There are still all-district teams and district champs (based on district record alone in football). In all sports (I think) but football there are also conference champs. Football just uses power points to determine the 16 playoff teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ghost of Joe Paterno
()
Date: September 05, 2013 02:17PM
Hate to break it to you, but football is not part of the SOL, so when there are major budget revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of 2013" do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY back-to the point where it costs in excess of $250 to play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 05, 2013 02:30PM
Can someone better explain the power points this year? For 6a, is a win vs another opponent worth 26 points and a loss, 15 points? Here is something from Virginiapreps and one 6A South team has 27 points. It seems 5A get 24points for a win against another 5A team and 26 points for a win against a 6A team.
http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=914&CID=1542534
http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=914&CID=1542534
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What Does it cost
()
Date: September 05, 2013 03:11PM
The county (i.e. the taxpayer) only pays for the 3 travel busses, the Refs and the field maintenance/lights.
Everything else is paid for by fund raising/parents. In fact football doesn't even get their own gate, that is kept by the DSA for the overall sports program going mostly to the money losing sorts like girl's soccer, softball and field hockey.
Everything else is paid for by fund raising/parents. In fact football doesn't even get their own gate, that is kept by the DSA for the overall sports program going mostly to the money losing sorts like girl's soccer, softball and field hockey.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
any amount is too much
()
Date: September 05, 2013 03:46PM
The fact that it costs anything is the problem.
I think it is all a waste of money, and not really a school function-schools already have PE.
Sports cost more than all of the other activities put together. If you add marching band and cheerleading, it is way over the top.
If the parents want it, they can pay for ALL of it, and tack on 5-10% to the schools for administering the helicopter playground.
At least you admit some sports lose money-why do we even have them?
Strauss, Kaufax, McElveen, and Velkoff should be tossed out of office over this.
The County Board will have a riot on its hands if this kind of waste keeps up.
I think it is all a waste of money, and not really a school function-schools already have PE.
Sports cost more than all of the other activities put together. If you add marching band and cheerleading, it is way over the top.
If the parents want it, they can pay for ALL of it, and tack on 5-10% to the schools for administering the helicopter playground.
At least you admit some sports lose money-why do we even have them?
Strauss, Kaufax, McElveen, and Velkoff should be tossed out of office over this.
The County Board will have a riot on its hands if this kind of waste keeps up.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 05, 2013 04:46PM
any amount is too much Wrote:
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> The fact that it costs anything is the problem.
>
> I think it is all a waste of money, and not really
> a school function-schools already have PE.
I meet very few people with your opinion (actually none that will speak it in public)... even among the libertarian and conservative circles.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The fact that it costs anything is the problem.
>
> I think it is all a waste of money, and not really
> a school function-schools already have PE.
I meet very few people with your opinion (actually none that will speak it in public)... even among the libertarian and conservative circles.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Happy to Speak My Mind
()
Date: September 05, 2013 06:23PM
Someone said:
"I would rather die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak"
That's my motto.
I think high school sports are a waste of time and money. If certain parents and others think this is so important, let them pay for it. I can just imagine the laughter if a parent approached the school and said their kid wanted to learn to read Sanskrit or play the harp. They'd be told to do it on their own.
But…football, marching band, cheerleading, that's somehow OK. I still wonder why these things are not in the SOL?
Even if a kid gets a sports scholarship, that's a kind of doom as well. Very few get pro contracts, and very few graduate. So now you have someone who is 22 years old, poor academic skills and no prospects. So much for the "look at all of the scholarships we'll get" argument.
Likewise, the arguments about school spirit, teamwork, lessons learned on the gridiron, those are all rubbish as well.
There's also a dark side involving bullying, rape, and all kinds of politics with parents, coaches, boosters and of course the school board.
People may say "well, football has always been here" and I would say "well, they used to think the earth was flat" and wait for a response.
"I would rather die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak"
That's my motto.
I think high school sports are a waste of time and money. If certain parents and others think this is so important, let them pay for it. I can just imagine the laughter if a parent approached the school and said their kid wanted to learn to read Sanskrit or play the harp. They'd be told to do it on their own.
But…football, marching band, cheerleading, that's somehow OK. I still wonder why these things are not in the SOL?
Even if a kid gets a sports scholarship, that's a kind of doom as well. Very few get pro contracts, and very few graduate. So now you have someone who is 22 years old, poor academic skills and no prospects. So much for the "look at all of the scholarships we'll get" argument.
Likewise, the arguments about school spirit, teamwork, lessons learned on the gridiron, those are all rubbish as well.
There's also a dark side involving bullying, rape, and all kinds of politics with parents, coaches, boosters and of course the school board.
People may say "well, football has always been here" and I would say "well, they used to think the earth was flat" and wait for a response.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Sad People
()
Date: September 05, 2013 06:47PM
It's truly sad when one or a few people have to take a discussion about something fun and exciting for others and decide to post things to try to bring everyone down to their low level life. It goes to show the type of people they are, rarely invited out and have a miserable life/job/family. I guess if they are miserable, everyone should be miserable. What's worse, is they think by whining and complaining on a forum like this will change things. If you have an opinion or don't like something, get off your ass and run for office, petition local people, do something but stop trying to suck the life out of other people's enjoyment.
Now lets talk some high school football. I am a big fan of gamedaymagazine.com (no affiliation) and they put out some nice analysis about the upcoming games.
Now lets talk some high school football. I am a big fan of gamedaymagazine.com (no affiliation) and they put out some nice analysis about the upcoming games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 05, 2013 06:50PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Can someone better explain the power points this
> year? For 6a, is a win vs another opponent worth
> 26 points and a loss, 15 points? Here is
> something from Virginiapreps and one 6A South team
> has 27 points. It seems 5A get 24points for a win
> against another 5A team and 26 points for a win
> against a 6A team.
> http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=9
> 14&CID=1542534
Here is a link to the rating system. In general, play the largest and best teams that you can and hope for wins.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-2013-football-rating-scale.pdf
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> Can someone better explain the power points this
> year? For 6a, is a win vs another opponent worth
> 26 points and a loss, 15 points? Here is
> something from Virginiapreps and one 6A South team
> has 27 points. It seems 5A get 24points for a win
> against another 5A team and 26 points for a win
> against a 6A team.
> http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=9
> 14&CID=1542534
Here is a link to the rating system. In general, play the largest and best teams that you can and hope for wins.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-2013-football-rating-scale.pdf
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Old School 77
()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:09AM
Ootball will always more important than anything you care about of Joe Paterno Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hate to break it to you, but football is not part
> of the SOL, so when there are major budget
> revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of 2013"
> do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY
> back-to the point where it costs in excess of $250
> to play.
Listen here, you fucking soccer lovin, tofu eating, band parent, TJ wannabe, SOL Test score hovering, got your ass kicked by an Athlete, ASSHOLE. Football will always more important than anything you care about! Tell your pizza faced pussy kid to suck it up and take his beating the way you used to!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hate to break it to you, but football is not part
> of the SOL, so when there are major budget
> revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of 2013"
> do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY
> back-to the point where it costs in excess of $250
> to play.
Listen here, you fucking soccer lovin, tofu eating, band parent, TJ wannabe, SOL Test score hovering, got your ass kicked by an Athlete, ASSHOLE. Football will always more important than anything you care about! Tell your pizza faced pussy kid to suck it up and take his beating the way you used to!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:15AM
It is different then how it has been in the past. My understanding though...
If you win against a 6A school you get 26 points, a 5A school 24 points.
If you lose against a 6A school you get 14 points for just playing, and likewise a 5A school you get 12 points.
Now this is where you get rewarded for playing a good team, and why 6A schools have no problem playing Stone Bridge...
For teams you beat, you get 2 additional points per each win they have. Lets say a school has 5 wins against all 5-5 teams to keep it simple. That would be an additional 10 points for each win for a total of 50 points. If a 6A school like Braddock beats Stone Bridge and SB finishes 9-1, that would be an additional 18 points for Braddock on top of the 25* they got for the win.
For all the teams you lose to, you get a point for each win they have. If you lose to a 10-0 team that will be 10 additional points, if you lose to a 2-8 team that will be 2 points, another incentive to play tough competition.
*If you are a higher team playing down you automatically get 1 additional point, and if you are a higher team playing down in a district game you get 2 additional points. This is in place as 6A teams are mixed with 5A teams.
If you win against a 6A school you get 26 points, a 5A school 24 points.
If you lose against a 6A school you get 14 points for just playing, and likewise a 5A school you get 12 points.
Now this is where you get rewarded for playing a good team, and why 6A schools have no problem playing Stone Bridge...
For teams you beat, you get 2 additional points per each win they have. Lets say a school has 5 wins against all 5-5 teams to keep it simple. That would be an additional 10 points for each win for a total of 50 points. If a 6A school like Braddock beats Stone Bridge and SB finishes 9-1, that would be an additional 18 points for Braddock on top of the 25* they got for the win.
For all the teams you lose to, you get a point for each win they have. If you lose to a 10-0 team that will be 10 additional points, if you lose to a 2-8 team that will be 2 points, another incentive to play tough competition.
*If you are a higher team playing down you automatically get 1 additional point, and if you are a higher team playing down in a district game you get 2 additional points. This is in place as 6A teams are mixed with 5A teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Not a football loser
()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:15AM
Old School 77 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ootball will always more important than anything
> you care about of Joe Paterno Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hate to break it to you, but football is not
> part
> > of the SOL, so when there are major budget
> > revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of
> 2013"
> > do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY
> > back-to the point where it costs in excess of
> $250
> > to play.
>
>
> Listen here, you fucking soccer lovin, tofu
> eating, band parent, TJ wannabe, SOL Test score
> hovering, got your ass kicked by an Athlete,
> ASSHOLE. Football will always more important than
> anything you care about! Tell your pizza faced
> pussy kid to suck it up and take his beating the
> way you used to!!
1) Yes, I like soccer, but don't think we need to waste money on it in high school.
2) Sorry, don't eat tofu.
3) Sorry, not a band parent. Band goes with football, you know.
4) Sorry, I could care less about TJ.
5) Sorry, I don't "hover" over SOLs, I take steps to make sure my kids pass.
6) Never got my ass kicked by an athlete. Do you think athletes should be violent and predatory?
7) You think football is more important than family? If you do, I feel sorry for you.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ootball will always more important than anything
> you care about of Joe Paterno Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hate to break it to you, but football is not
> part
> > of the SOL, so when there are major budget
> > revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of
> 2013"
> > do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY
> > back-to the point where it costs in excess of
> $250
> > to play.
>
>
> Listen here, you fucking soccer lovin, tofu
> eating, band parent, TJ wannabe, SOL Test score
> hovering, got your ass kicked by an Athlete,
> ASSHOLE. Football will always more important than
> anything you care about! Tell your pizza faced
> pussy kid to suck it up and take his beating the
> way you used to!!
1) Yes, I like soccer, but don't think we need to waste money on it in high school.
2) Sorry, don't eat tofu.
3) Sorry, not a band parent. Band goes with football, you know.
4) Sorry, I could care less about TJ.
5) Sorry, I don't "hover" over SOLs, I take steps to make sure my kids pass.
6) Never got my ass kicked by an athlete. Do you think athletes should be violent and predatory?
7) You think football is more important than family? If you do, I feel sorry for you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just a loser you are
()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:38AM
7) Football, sports and clubs within high school are a family. These help teach kids social skills, leadership, respect, work ethic and camaraderie. Also how to deal with fear, multi-tasking and disappointment without resorting to guns, violence and faithless religion (whole different subject I know).
Read this:
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20021020&slug=mytake20
If you don’t here is an excerpt:
"Interscholastic programs enhance the overall educational experience and build well-rounded students and leaders. Need proof? A comprehensive, statewide study of high-school student-athletes in North Carolina over a three-year period found a significant difference in grade-point average, attendance rates, discipline referrals, dropout rates and graduation rates between students who participated in athletics or other activities and those who didn't.
In fact, student-athletes in the study had a 5 percent higher graduation rate, an 8 percent lower dropout rate, 10 percent fewer discipline referrals and missed six fewer days of school. Athletes' grade-point average was 2.86 vs. 1.96 for nonathletes."
Now Shut Up and stop trolling! Don't go away mad, just go away.
Can we get on to FOOTBALL!!!
Read this:
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20021020&slug=mytake20
If you don’t here is an excerpt:
"Interscholastic programs enhance the overall educational experience and build well-rounded students and leaders. Need proof? A comprehensive, statewide study of high-school student-athletes in North Carolina over a three-year period found a significant difference in grade-point average, attendance rates, discipline referrals, dropout rates and graduation rates between students who participated in athletics or other activities and those who didn't.
In fact, student-athletes in the study had a 5 percent higher graduation rate, an 8 percent lower dropout rate, 10 percent fewer discipline referrals and missed six fewer days of school. Athletes' grade-point average was 2.86 vs. 1.96 for nonathletes."
Now Shut Up and stop trolling! Don't go away mad, just go away.
Can we get on to FOOTBALL!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:13PM
I didn't want to get into the debate on this thread either but the more involved kids are in school activities (including sports) the more likely they are to graduate high school.
Goes for band as well:
http://www.nammfoundation.org/research/research-briefs-did-you-know
The jokes about football players working at McDonalds are pretty funny. My highly respected dentist is a former high school football player who suffered a career-ending knee injury his freshman year in college.
Goes for band as well:
http://www.nammfoundation.org/research/research-briefs-did-you-know
The jokes about football players working at McDonalds are pretty funny. My highly respected dentist is a former high school football player who suffered a career-ending knee injury his freshman year in college.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Explain This
()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:36PM
What with all of the football, athletic family, multitasking and discovery of antigravity and cold fusion going on in Fairfax, what is the explanation for this:
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1298842.html
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1298842.html
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
joining the chorus
()
Date: September 06, 2013 01:04PM
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-29/opinion/ct-perspec-0829-football-20120829_1_brain-trauma-high-school-football-brain-injury-research-institute
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/cr-board-member-calls-for-banning-hs-football/article_4dbb7595-770a-589f-bf45-797606569742.html
http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/02/school-board-member-wants-football-ban/
http://open.salon.com/blog/dgsmith/2009/06/02/time_to_eliminate_high_school_sports
all arguments to get rid of high school football!
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/cr-board-member-calls-for-banning-hs-football/article_4dbb7595-770a-589f-bf45-797606569742.html
http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/02/school-board-member-wants-football-ban/
http://open.salon.com/blog/dgsmith/2009/06/02/time_to_eliminate_high_school_sports
all arguments to get rid of high school football!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Benjealous
()
Date: September 06, 2013 03:49PM
There aint no way they're going to charge money for these kids to play football. Unless its just the white kids who have to pay. Do you really think these niggers you see running around out there are paying any money? The niggers are already getting their breakfast, lunch, and everything else paid for. C'mon, man, wake up!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Benjealous
()
Date: September 06, 2013 03:49PM
There aint no way they're going to charge money for these kids to play football. Unless its just the white kids who have to pay. Do you really think these niggers you see running around out there are paying any money? The niggers are already getting their breakfast, lunch, and everything else paid for. C'mon, man, wake up!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Pay to Play
()
Date: September 06, 2013 03:57PM
Sorry I am tired of subsidizing band trips, football, turf, lacrosse, golf and cheerleading. I think it is all crap.
If the board of supervisors and school board don't wise up, they'll be voted out of office, plain and simple.
If they want to play, they can pay.
If the board of supervisors and school board don't wise up, they'll be voted out of office, plain and simple.
If they want to play, they can pay.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dead!!
()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:01PM
This was a good football forum, thanks for killing it!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:08PM
Pay to Play Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry I am tired of subsidizing band trips,
> football, turf, lacrosse, golf and cheerleading. I
> think it is all crap.
Fortunately, most people are not basement dwelling hermits.
If you think the taxpayer is subsidizing these programs - try putting your kid through 4 years of any of the above and see how free it is. The booster organizations (read: private money) pay for a large percentage of the funds required. Why do you think they are always fundraising? (which also upsets people).
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry I am tired of subsidizing band trips,
> football, turf, lacrosse, golf and cheerleading. I
> think it is all crap.
Fortunately, most people are not basement dwelling hermits.
If you think the taxpayer is subsidizing these programs - try putting your kid through 4 years of any of the above and see how free it is. The booster organizations (read: private money) pay for a large percentage of the funds required. Why do you think they are always fundraising? (which also upsets people).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Let the Boosters Pay It ALL
()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:30PM
Let the boosters pay for all of it. Crooked fundraising upsets me (as in where a fundraising company gets a cut greater than 10%). If there is fundraising money left to spare, channel some of it back to the schools.
I would not let my kids waste time with football, band, or cheerleading. They get private music and art lessons (which I pay for, no fundraising), ballet (which I pay for, no fundraising) and martial arts (which I pay for, no fundraising) as well as occasional private tutoring.
No this is not a wealthy family but we forego things like tv and Miley Cyrus in favor of proper educations. It is how my father raised me (a real gift, the value goes up every year) and it is part of my homage to him to pass it along.
I would not let my kids waste time with football, band, or cheerleading. They get private music and art lessons (which I pay for, no fundraising), ballet (which I pay for, no fundraising) and martial arts (which I pay for, no fundraising) as well as occasional private tutoring.
No this is not a wealthy family but we forego things like tv and Miley Cyrus in favor of proper educations. It is how my father raised me (a real gift, the value goes up every year) and it is part of my homage to him to pass it along.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:45PM
Got a bad feeling about CVille/TC game. I know that TC is not a pushover this year and the Cats are susceptible to not playing up to their potential. Hope that I'm wrong.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ready for FB
()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:54PM
If we ignore these holier than thou individuals maybe they will go away
Inquisitive One - while you always have to worry about most teams, I saw a replay of the TC - Oakton game. TC scored on a number of big plays that I would be surprised if CVille would give. I did not see them drive down the field and score at all (although I might have missed one)
Oakton drove down the field a few times with limited offensive weapons but tc stopped them. CVille weapons are stronger
Still- always need to worry
Inquisitive One - while you always have to worry about most teams, I saw a replay of the TC - Oakton game. TC scored on a number of big plays that I would be surprised if CVille would give. I did not see them drive down the field and score at all (although I might have missed one)
Oakton drove down the field a few times with limited offensive weapons but tc stopped them. CVille weapons are stronger
Still- always need to worry
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 06, 2013 06:37PM
Anyone have any thought about the Stone Bridge/Lake Braddock game? I personally think that Stone Bridge will come after Henderson hard and force them to win the game on the ground. That is something that Lake Braddock cannot do is win the game with a ground game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 06, 2013 08:42PM
CVille/TC Williams update nearing end of second quarter from Jon Roetman, CVille 30 TC Williams 3:
Centreville's AJ Turner has 2 rushing TDs, a kickoff return TD and 2 INTs ... in the first half. Titans will see Turner in their sleep
Centreville's AJ Turner has 2 rushing TDs, a kickoff return TD and 2 INTs ... in the first half. Titans will see Turner in their sleep
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 06, 2013 08:42PM
CVille/TC Williams update nearing end of second quarter from Jon Roetman, CVille 30 TC Williams 3:
Centreville's AJ Turner has 2 rushing TDs, a kickoff return TD and 2 INTs ... in the first half. Titans will see Turner in their sleep
Centreville's AJ Turner has 2 rushing TDs, a kickoff return TD and 2 INTs ... in the first half. Titans will see Turner in their sleep
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Love this
()
Date: September 06, 2013 09:15PM
Old School 77 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ootball will always more important than anything
> you care about of Joe Paterno Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hate to break it to you, but football is not
> part
> > of the SOL, so when there are major budget
> > revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of
> 2013"
> > do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY
> > back-to the point where it costs in excess of
> $250
> > to play.
>
>
> Listen here, you fucking soccer lovin, tofu
> eating, band parent, TJ wannabe, SOL Test score
> hovering, got your ass kicked by an Athlete,
> ASSHOLE. Football will always more important than
> anything you care about! Tell your pizza faced
> pussy kid to suck it up and take his beating the
> way you used to!!
Lmao!!! Perfectly stated. When one is on their death bed one day I wonder if they say "hey can I take a look at my SOL score again". What the hell does being a genius do for you if you can't carry on a conversation and your a quitter when things get hard in life because your a pussy and you can't work with others cooperatively because you've always thought of yourself as too good to be part of a team
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ootball will always more important than anything
> you care about of Joe Paterno Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hate to break it to you, but football is not
> part
> > of the SOL, so when there are major budget
> > revisions thanks to the "Great Turf Fraud of
> 2013"
> > do not be surprised if football gets cut WAY
> > back-to the point where it costs in excess of
> $250
> > to play.
>
>
> Listen here, you fucking soccer lovin, tofu
> eating, band parent, TJ wannabe, SOL Test score
> hovering, got your ass kicked by an Athlete,
> ASSHOLE. Football will always more important than
> anything you care about! Tell your pizza faced
> pussy kid to suck it up and take his beating the
> way you used to!!
Lmao!!! Perfectly stated. When one is on their death bed one day I wonder if they say "hey can I take a look at my SOL score again". What the hell does being a genius do for you if you can't carry on a conversation and your a quitter when things get hard in life because your a pussy and you can't work with others cooperatively because you've always thought of yourself as too good to be part of a team
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Casper
()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:37PM
Oh boy, we got a major upset fellas. Langley beat Yorktown 35-28, on no fault of MJ Stewart though. He scored all 4 of Yorktowns TDs. The Saxons O line and running back absolutely man-handled Yorktown's D and the game was nowhere as close as the score indicates. Stone bridge is going to have their work cut out for them next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostradamus
()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:41PM
Madison was getting crushed 42-0 when I left the game in the 4th quarter.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dan w
()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:10PM
falls church over annandale
centreville over tc
chantilly over lee
fairfax over west po
soco over hayfield
edison over west springfield
langley over yorktown
lake braddock over stone bridge
wakefield over marshall
no scores this is just who won
centreville over tc
chantilly over lee
fairfax over west po
soco over hayfield
edison over west springfield
langley over yorktown
lake braddock over stone bridge
wakefield over marshall
no scores this is just who won
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Science > Football
()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:36PM
Nostradamus Wrote:
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> Madison was getting crushed 42-0 when I left the
> game in the 4th quarter.
You left to watch the moon launch, I presume?
I made sure my kids watched it-just a little moving speck, but a testimony to what science (and education) can accomplish.
Man didn't get to the moon by playing football or fretting over conference scores, that's for sure.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Madison was getting crushed 42-0 when I left the
> game in the 4th quarter.
You left to watch the moon launch, I presume?
I made sure my kids watched it-just a little moving speck, but a testimony to what science (and education) can accomplish.
Man didn't get to the moon by playing football or fretting over conference scores, that's for sure.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FAIRFAX HYPESQUAD
()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:52PM
FAIRFAX FOOTBALL OVER WEST PO 39-25 HELL YEAH!!! OOOOH KILL EM
The rebels and nick Scott are in for a great season! Go rebels!
The rebels and nick Scott are in for a great season! Go rebels!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan nightmare
()
Date: September 07, 2013 12:14AM
Omg what a train wreck my west Springfield Spartans were... we just lost to Edison... I'm going to be sick. Edison was terrible, we should have beat them by the scores. I'm not one to bash a new coach, but this hire made no sense from the start. if we cant beat Edisonson, there is no way we beat lee or Annandale.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan nightmare
()
Date: September 07, 2013 12:14AM
Omg what a train wreck my west Springfield Spartans were... we just lost to Edison... I'm going to be sick. Edison was terrible, we should have beat them by the scores. I'm not one to bash a new coach, but this hire made no sense from the start. if we cant beat Edisonson, there is no way we beat lee or Annandale.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jackknife
()
Date: September 07, 2013 12:43AM
Are y'all impressed by soco putting up 56 points in each of their games?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dapper dan
()
Date: September 07, 2013 01:31AM
Hey inquisitive one, looks like LB won the game on the ground. Stonebridge got bitch slapped!
Keep your day job. Football predictions with your Magic 8 ball ain't working real well for
you.
Keep your day job. Football predictions with your Magic 8 ball ain't working real well for
you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nova football fan
()
Date: September 07, 2013 01:32AM
TJ 30, Stuart 0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: September 07, 2013 08:13AM
Of course the Spartans lost to Edison. WS football has been a train wreck for 4 years and nothing changed except the hiring of a train wreck of a basketball coach to coach football. Until they clean house and bring a principal who can lead by example and is at least somewhat respected by the students and a DSS that can actually run a sports program they will continue to be an embarrassment. Lake Braddock is 2 miles away and wins consistently across the board. When will the non leaders of men and women at WS be held accountable? BTW- the 10th high school in the state designation is a joke to everyone but the principal. Students are having fun with that one.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 07, 2013 09:42AM
What team are you all most impressed by?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan fan
()
Date: September 07, 2013 09:56AM
West Springfield was a playoff team last year, far from a joke.
partanjoke Wrote:
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> Of course the Spartans lost to Edison. WS football
> has been a train wreck for 4 years and nothing
> changed except the hiring of a train wreck of a
> basketball coach to coach football. Until they
> clean house and bring a principal who can lead by
> example and is at least somewhat respected by the
> students and a DSS that can actually run a sports
> program they will continue to be an embarrassment.
> Lake Braddock is 2 miles away and wins
> consistently across the board. When will the non
> leaders of men and women at WS be held
> accountable? BTW- the 10th high school in the
> state designation is a joke to everyone but the
> principal. Students are having fun with that one.
partanjoke Wrote:
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> Of course the Spartans lost to Edison. WS football
> has been a train wreck for 4 years and nothing
> changed except the hiring of a train wreck of a
> basketball coach to coach football. Until they
> clean house and bring a principal who can lead by
> example and is at least somewhat respected by the
> students and a DSS that can actually run a sports
> program they will continue to be an embarrassment.
> Lake Braddock is 2 miles away and wins
> consistently across the board. When will the non
> leaders of men and women at WS be held
> accountable? BTW- the 10th high school in the
> state designation is a joke to everyone but the
> principal. Students are having fun with that one.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 07, 2013 10:00AM
Jonny Wrote:
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> What team are you all most impressed by?
I'd say Lake Braddock. They opened with 2 away games against solid football programs and came away with wins over Robinson and Stone Bridge.
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> What team are you all most impressed by?
I'd say Lake Braddock. They opened with 2 away games against solid football programs and came away with wins over Robinson and Stone Bridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
A bunch of perverts…
()
Date: September 07, 2013 10:04AM
All you guys getting off watching boys running around and throwing a ball. There's something wrong about that.
Ever hear of Jerry Sandusky? Think about it. Get your entertainment some other way.
Ever hear of Jerry Sandusky? Think about it. Get your entertainment some other way.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2's reflections
()
Date: September 07, 2013 10:24AM
A bunch of perverts… Wrote:
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> All you guys getting off watching boys running
> around and throwing a ball. There's something
> wrong about that.
>
> Ever hear of Jerry Sandusky? Think about it. Get
> your entertainment some other way.
STFU... football is football and you're a loser who obviously had a rough high school experience and probably amounted to very little.
Anyway, Centreville is amazing. Whooping a very good TC Williams team that beat Oakton by 36.
Lake Braddock is real good, and has started the year with a couple real good wins; but I don't think they have much of a shot against Centreville. They play Westfield in a couple weeks which will be a good measuring stick, I do think they're better than Westfield but haven't seen them play yet.
South County's dismantling of a good Hayfield team is very impressive. All those Coach Panoni haters from Centreville, look at the success he has brought to this program. Good coach, great team, them playing Chantilly in a few weeks should be a great game.
Upset of the season, by far, was Langley beating Yorktown. It looks like a good offensive line and pounding the ball is the way to get to Yorktown, the blue print is out. Langley plays Stone BRidge next week, I expect SB to win easily, but if Langley fairs well in that one, they are worth keeping an eye on.
Chantilly looked real good last night. I know they were playing Lee, but Lee was better than I expected too. They have three guys with super 40 speeds, and scored 75 on Edison who won last night. Lee will get some wins this year. Chantilly though has an exciting new qb who can really run. Don't think they're near Centreville, but this team can make some noise this year.
I thought Madison was going to be good this year, but going down to a average at best Oakton team 42-0 makes me think otherwise. I thought their game against Chantilly would be good next week, now i think Chantilly will run away with it.
I also thought Herndon was going to be better this year. Losing to Mount Vernon at home is terrible. Looks like they will be the punch bag in the Concorde again this year.
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> All you guys getting off watching boys running
> around and throwing a ball. There's something
> wrong about that.
>
> Ever hear of Jerry Sandusky? Think about it. Get
> your entertainment some other way.
STFU... football is football and you're a loser who obviously had a rough high school experience and probably amounted to very little.
Anyway, Centreville is amazing. Whooping a very good TC Williams team that beat Oakton by 36.
Lake Braddock is real good, and has started the year with a couple real good wins; but I don't think they have much of a shot against Centreville. They play Westfield in a couple weeks which will be a good measuring stick, I do think they're better than Westfield but haven't seen them play yet.
South County's dismantling of a good Hayfield team is very impressive. All those Coach Panoni haters from Centreville, look at the success he has brought to this program. Good coach, great team, them playing Chantilly in a few weeks should be a great game.
Upset of the season, by far, was Langley beating Yorktown. It looks like a good offensive line and pounding the ball is the way to get to Yorktown, the blue print is out. Langley plays Stone BRidge next week, I expect SB to win easily, but if Langley fairs well in that one, they are worth keeping an eye on.
Chantilly looked real good last night. I know they were playing Lee, but Lee was better than I expected too. They have three guys with super 40 speeds, and scored 75 on Edison who won last night. Lee will get some wins this year. Chantilly though has an exciting new qb who can really run. Don't think they're near Centreville, but this team can make some noise this year.
I thought Madison was going to be good this year, but going down to a average at best Oakton team 42-0 makes me think otherwise. I thought their game against Chantilly would be good next week, now i think Chantilly will run away with it.
I also thought Herndon was going to be better this year. Losing to Mount Vernon at home is terrible. Looks like they will be the punch bag in the Concorde again this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 07, 2013 10:41AM
A bunch of perverts… Wrote:
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> All you guys getting off watching boys running
> around and throwing a ball. There's something
> wrong about that.
>
> Ever hear of Jerry Sandusky? Think about it. Get
> your entertainment some other way.
Thank goodness they aren't in science class...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=science+teacher+accused+of+having+sex+with+student
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> All you guys getting off watching boys running
> around and throwing a ball. There's something
> wrong about that.
>
> Ever hear of Jerry Sandusky? Think about it. Get
> your entertainment some other way.
Thank goodness they aren't in science class...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=science+teacher+accused+of+having+sex+with+student
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
better link
()
Date: September 07, 2013 10:56AM
Try this link:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=coach+convicted+of+having+sex+with+student
Burn in hell, Joe Paterno!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=coach+convicted+of+having+sex+with+student
Burn in hell, Joe Paterno!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: September 07, 2013 12:17PM
Jonny Wrote:
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> What team are you all most impressed by?
Definitely Centreville. Centreville's first team offense scored on every offensive play against West Potomac and TC Williams. They scored 51 pts by the end of the 1st series in the 2nd half against WP and put up 44 points midway thru the 3rd quarter against TC. The 1st team defense has done a stellar job as well, holding West Potomac scoreless and giving up only a field goal on a short field. That's a whopping 95-3 in two games against decent opponents. The 2nd teams for Centreville have played fairly well against the opponents 1st teams showing Centreville has quality depth.
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> What team are you all most impressed by?
Definitely Centreville. Centreville's first team offense scored on every offensive play against West Potomac and TC Williams. They scored 51 pts by the end of the 1st series in the 2nd half against WP and put up 44 points midway thru the 3rd quarter against TC. The 1st team defense has done a stellar job as well, holding West Potomac scoreless and giving up only a field goal on a short field. That's a whopping 95-3 in two games against decent opponents. The 2nd teams for Centreville have played fairly well against the opponents 1st teams showing Centreville has quality depth.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 07, 2013 05:36PM
The soco chantilly game is looking better by the minute as does soco vs lb
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Big Balls
()
Date: September 07, 2013 05:52PM
How about the small schools beating the big schools? Mount Vernon beats Herndon, Edison beating West Springfield, and Falls Church beating Annandale. Granted, All three big schools suck. Thoughts?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 07, 2013 06:16PM
The current PowerPoint standings
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Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordePride
()
Date: September 07, 2013 06:39PM
Jonny Wrote:
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> The current PowerPoint standings
Can someone explain this too me? How the hell is fucking langley ahead of centreville, Braddock, and SoCo?
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> The current PowerPoint standings
Can someone explain this too me? How the hell is fucking langley ahead of centreville, Braddock, and SoCo?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 07, 2013 06:56PM
I actually don't know
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
UPSETS
()
Date: September 07, 2013 08:54PM
Langley beat Yorktown last night, which was the heavy favorite. Not sure how the points work exactly, but Langley pulled an upset while Centreville, Soco and LB won games they were suppose to win. Beating a stronger opponent gives you more power points.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 07, 2013 09:03PM
But Lake Braddock beat Stone Bridge... I wouldn't say they were they supposed to win that game.
Regardless 2 weeks in (1 for half the schools) the rankings are really irrelevant right now.
Regardless 2 weeks in (1 for half the schools) the rankings are really irrelevant right now.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
UPSETS
()
Date: September 08, 2013 12:39AM
The point spread for LB vs Stonebridge was 3 points or so. And Stonebridge is a 5A school (Less points for Braddock) Langley beat a 6A Yorktown team that was favored by almost 20 points, I believe. But you're right, power points are irrelevant right now. Come week 11 these will matter and I can assure you Langley will not be at the top but they have proven a good foot all team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Point spread
()
Date: September 08, 2013 01:13AM
Where the hell are you finding point spreads for high school football??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Falls Church patron
()
Date: September 08, 2013 06:55AM
FALLS CHURCH BABY
they just beat a division 6 team Annandale 43-27 Daly, Coneys,Dupont, Mulumba, and Mejia are an extremely talented bunch
they just beat a division 6 team Annandale 43-27 Daly, Coneys,Dupont, Mulumba, and Mejia are an extremely talented bunch
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I PIty These People
()
Date: September 08, 2013 07:15AM
Bunch of Al Bundy wannabes. The wait-list for Future Failures of America. And candidates for knee replacement surgery of course...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: September 08, 2013 07:44AM
Really Spartan fan? WS was a playoff team last year? That is because they had to take somebody. With their schedule they could not help but win 4-5 games and that ws enough. If that is what WS should be to you instead of competing with Lake Braddock, Centreville, and SoCo then give the DSS a slap on the back and say good job. Their best players are at private schools or not playing because of the vapid leadership they have had for five years now. No desire to improve and no clue how to paired with no accountability equals the mess that is there now. Yes they were a 'playoff team' last year. But the program has turned into a joke run by clowns.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ernie
()
Date: September 08, 2013 10:34AM
Did anyone see the end of the Mt Vernon at Herndon game. Herndon had the game just about wrapped up leading by one with the ball. Clock running down to one minute on 2nd down and the Herndon Coach calls a passing play. Mt Vernon intercepts the ball. Runs a play then kicks a game winning football.
Granted, Herndon will not win many games, but to give one away hurts.
Does anyone have any incite to why the Herndon Coach called that play?
Granted, Herndon will not win many games, but to give one away hurts.
Does anyone have any incite to why the Herndon Coach called that play?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: September 08, 2013 12:51PM
Don't worry Herndon- you have West Springfield this week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ernie the illiterate
()
Date: September 08, 2013 01:14PM
Ernie Wrote:
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> Did anyone see the end of the Mt Vernon at Herndon
> game. Herndon had the game just about wrapped up
> leading by one with the ball. Clock running down
> to one minute on 2nd down and the Herndon Coach
> calls a passing play. Mt Vernon intercepts the
> ball. Runs a play then kicks a game winning
> football.
>
> Granted, Herndon will not win many games, but to
> give one away hurts.
>
> Does anyone have any incite to why the Herndon
> Coach called that play?
Typical football loser, it is "insight" not "incite" you moron.
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> Did anyone see the end of the Mt Vernon at Herndon
> game. Herndon had the game just about wrapped up
> leading by one with the ball. Clock running down
> to one minute on 2nd down and the Herndon Coach
> calls a passing play. Mt Vernon intercepts the
> ball. Runs a play then kicks a game winning
> football.
>
> Granted, Herndon will not win many games, but to
> give one away hurts.
>
> Does anyone have any incite to why the Herndon
> Coach called that play?
Typical football loser, it is "insight" not "incite" you moron.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
To Spartan Joke
()
Date: September 08, 2013 01:43PM
Spartan Joke,
Since you know so much about leadership and football, why don't you go down to WSHS and help out. Otherwise let it go. Sounds like you're part of the problem too.
Since you know so much about leadership and football, why don't you go down to WSHS and help out. Otherwise let it go. Sounds like you're part of the problem too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 08, 2013 02:06PM
ConcordePride Wrote:
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> Jonny Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The current PowerPoint standings
>
>
> Can someone explain this too me? How the hell is
> fucking langley ahead of centreville, Braddock,
> and SoCo?
The rating system is posted on the VHSL football website. However I will illustrate the system using the Langley and CVille ratings. For CVille you have 2 wins with 26 points awarded for the wins. In addition, they are awarded 2 points for the TC win last week. That totals 54 points/2games with a 27 rating thru game 2.
With Langley, this is the first game for them so they are awarded 26 points for the win over Yorktown plus 2 points for their win last week. Hence you have 28 points for Langley. The important thing is that the ratings are not that important this early in the season.
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> Jonny Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The current PowerPoint standings
>
>
> Can someone explain this too me? How the hell is
> fucking langley ahead of centreville, Braddock,
> and SoCo?
The rating system is posted on the VHSL football website. However I will illustrate the system using the Langley and CVille ratings. For CVille you have 2 wins with 26 points awarded for the wins. In addition, they are awarded 2 points for the TC win last week. That totals 54 points/2games with a 27 rating thru game 2.
With Langley, this is the first game for them so they are awarded 26 points for the win over Yorktown plus 2 points for their win last week. Hence you have 28 points for Langley. The important thing is that the ratings are not that important this early in the season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 08, 2013 07:20PM
I know that it is early but I wanted people to know the pps now
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Faux Perv Hater Hater
()
Date: September 08, 2013 10:37PM
As a fan of HS football, of sport more generally, and of the back and forth on FFX Underground about a great sport...I want to comment on the jacka## going by handle I Pity These People, Point Spread, and A Bunch of Perverts...GET A LIFE! Sport is about teamwork, discipline, ambition, and achievement...most of the posters on this list have family friends or kids playing...or have put in effort to coach and build character for players. You seem jealous of the time invested...I am sorry you never had that type of effort invested in you. But ease up - we are not all victims of your complex! And you are getting irritating! I have only seen one poster focused on pedophilia on this site...and it is you! Go set up your own link for your own interest - clear pedophilia - and let the football posters focus on their interest!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NoVaFootball
()
Date: September 10, 2013 09:11AM
Fairfax County top ten:
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Westfield
South County
Fairfax
Falls Church
Oakton
Robinson
Woodson
Hayfield
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Westfield
South County
Fairfax
Falls Church
Oakton
Robinson
Woodson
Hayfield
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: September 10, 2013 09:39AM
You heard it here first. Westfield will beat Lake Braddock again; just like last year, LB will enter the game with alot of hype and Westfield will take them down.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 10, 2013 09:56AM
While I am a CVille fan, I am impressed by the Westfield schedule. They have LB, SB, Chant and CVille in their last 8 games. CVille's schedule is much easier, with only Chantilly and Westfield.
I do not see much with Oakton or Robinson and CVille likely has memories of losses (which probably should have been wins) to both last year
Lake Braddocks' win over Sb was impressive and their schedule has Westfield and what looks like a possibly tough South County team on it but all of the others should be wins.
It will be interesting in the next few weeks as things play out but the LB/Westfield game will be a good one to hear about in the near future.
I do not see too much on the light schedule this week worth watching. From the Concorde perspective, Robinson and Chantilly should win - Herndon -not so much
I do not see much with Oakton or Robinson and CVille likely has memories of losses (which probably should have been wins) to both last year
Lake Braddocks' win over Sb was impressive and their schedule has Westfield and what looks like a possibly tough South County team on it but all of the others should be wins.
It will be interesting in the next few weeks as things play out but the LB/Westfield game will be a good one to hear about in the near future.
I do not see too much on the light schedule this week worth watching. From the Concorde perspective, Robinson and Chantilly should win - Herndon -not so much
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
James
()
Date: September 10, 2013 10:26AM
What team do y'all have going under the radar?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 10, 2013 10:28AM
I also noticed Westfield has a tougher schedule.
It will be interesting to see how the LB game goes. Westfield's QB is still a work in progress with not that much experience and it shows. Other than that they seem very solid. Defense appears to be better than last year. Offense not as good - really have only 2 playmakers in T-Walker and Burns.
Sidenote:
Westfield has racked up 20 penalties for -161 yards in two games. Centreville has 23 penalties for -195 yards in their 2 games. So Westfield and Centreville have 43 penalties for -356 yards; while their opponents have combined for 12 penalties for -110 yards. What possible explanation is there for this disparity? Other than the obvious.
It will be interesting to see how the LB game goes. Westfield's QB is still a work in progress with not that much experience and it shows. Other than that they seem very solid. Defense appears to be better than last year. Offense not as good - really have only 2 playmakers in T-Walker and Burns.
Sidenote:
Westfield has racked up 20 penalties for -161 yards in two games. Centreville has 23 penalties for -195 yards in their 2 games. So Westfield and Centreville have 43 penalties for -356 yards; while their opponents have combined for 12 penalties for -110 yards. What possible explanation is there for this disparity? Other than the obvious.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 10, 2013 10:48AM
NoVaFootball Wrote:
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> Fairfax County top ten:
>
> Centreville
> Lake Braddock
> Westfield
> South County
> Fairfax
> Falls Church
> Oakton
> Robinson
> Woodson
> Hayfield
I have it:
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Westfield
Chantilly
South County
Robinson
Oakton
Woodson
Fairfax
Hayfield
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> Fairfax County top ten:
>
> Centreville
> Lake Braddock
> Westfield
> South County
> Fairfax
> Falls Church
> Oakton
> Robinson
> Woodson
> Hayfield
I have it:
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Westfield
Chantilly
South County
Robinson
Oakton
Woodson
Fairfax
Hayfield
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bricks
()
Date: September 10, 2013 10:57AM
Wtf, why does he have Woodson and Falls Church in the top 10 FC schools?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Scandal
()
Date: September 10, 2013 11:18AM
So much for the benefits of football:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1768255-oklahoma-state-football-profiled-in-sis-shocking-5-part-investigative-report?hpt=hp_t2
I for one do not want this kind of thing in our schools or communities.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1768255-oklahoma-state-football-profiled-in-sis-shocking-5-part-investigative-report?hpt=hp_t2
I for one do not want this kind of thing in our schools or communities.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 10, 2013 12:19PM
I am significantly in more agreement with RydellRoad. Cannot see Woodson in the top 10 of anything and I think Hayfield may be ranked higher as they probably had the toughest schedule to start, Westfield and South County - and it ain't gonna get better playing CVille next.
I would say they probably are in the top2 of toughest schedules - next to Westfield. From there, they have Yorktown as one of their remaining 7 game.
I would say they probably are in the top2 of toughest schedules - next to Westfield. From there, they have Yorktown as one of their remaining 7 game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Foolishness
()
Date: September 10, 2013 01:07PM
I concur with this:
So much for the benefits of football:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1768255-oklahoma-state-football-profiled-in-sis-shocking-5-part-investigative-report?hpt=hp_t2
I for one do not want this kind of thing in our schools or communities.
So much for the benefits of football:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1768255-oklahoma-state-football-profiled-in-sis-shocking-5-part-investigative-report?hpt=hp_t2
I for one do not want this kind of thing in our schools or communities.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:30PM
Football Foolishness Wrote:
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> I concur with this:
>
> So much for the benefits of football:
>
> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1768255-oklahom
> a-state-football-profiled-in-sis-shocking-5-part-i
> nvestigative-report?hpt=hp_t2
>
> I for one do not want this kind of thing in our
> schools or communities.
That whole thing is a mess. Truly horrible. BUT: does anyone really think that, say Centreville/Robinson/Westfield/any high school football team does this? Really, this is modern NCAA football. Scandals everywhere. But saying that a high school football team pays for play? Garbage.
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> I concur with this:
>
> So much for the benefits of football:
>
> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1768255-oklahom
> a-state-football-profiled-in-sis-shocking-5-part-i
> nvestigative-report?hpt=hp_t2
>
> I for one do not want this kind of thing in our
> schools or communities.
That whole thing is a mess. Truly horrible. BUT: does anyone really think that, say Centreville/Robinson/Westfield/any high school football team does this? Really, this is modern NCAA football. Scandals everywhere. But saying that a high school football team pays for play? Garbage.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:37PM
And just to clear the air on this, does anyone not think that Centreville is the best team in 6A north? My top 10
Cville
Braddock
Wfield
Tilly
Yorktown
Soco
TC
Fairfax
Langley
Robinson
Oakton
Cville
Braddock
Wfield
Tilly
Yorktown
Soco
TC
Fairfax
Langley
Robinson
Oakton
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 10, 2013 05:21PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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>Cannot see Woodson in the top 10 of
> anything
I agree... brain cramp - I was thinking T.C. Williams.
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>Cannot see Woodson in the top 10 of
> anything
I agree... brain cramp - I was thinking T.C. Williams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Brian
()
Date: September 10, 2013 07:32PM
The game I am looking forward to now is next week soco vs tilly
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LBkings
()
Date: September 10, 2013 10:00PM
Anyone know who this new Langley RB Tyler West is? apparently he ran for a ridiculous 299 yards against YORKTOWN. It's even more crazy when you realize MJ stewart only ran for 220. Why haven't I heard about this kid? is he a prospect?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimmy The Greek
()
Date: September 11, 2013 03:20PM
Madison beats Chantilly tomorrow 24-20.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: September 11, 2013 04:34PM
LBkings Wrote:
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> Anyone know who this new Langley RB Tyler West is?
> apparently he ran for a ridiculous 299 yards
> against YORKTOWN. It's even more crazy when you
> realize MJ stewart only ran for 220. Why haven't I
> heard about this kid? is he a prospect?
True, very impressive, and I have never heard of him either. But let's remember that, other than Stewart, the Yorktown defense is pretty bad. They gave up 50-some-odd points straight in the Region championship last year (I forget the actual number). Don't want to short this guy, but still not on my radar.
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> Anyone know who this new Langley RB Tyler West is?
> apparently he ran for a ridiculous 299 yards
> against YORKTOWN. It's even more crazy when you
> realize MJ stewart only ran for 220. Why haven't I
> heard about this kid? is he a prospect?
True, very impressive, and I have never heard of him either. But let's remember that, other than Stewart, the Yorktown defense is pretty bad. They gave up 50-some-odd points straight in the Region championship last year (I forget the actual number). Don't want to short this guy, but still not on my radar.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Joe Paterno's Statue
()
Date: September 11, 2013 05:34PM
I am counting the days until Fairfax has a sports scandal that will make people forget Penn State…
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dude!
()
Date: September 11, 2013 09:08PM
Jimmy The Greek Wrote:
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> Madison beats Chantilly tomorrow 24-20.
You're fuckin' funny!!
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> Madison beats Chantilly tomorrow 24-20.
You're fuckin' funny!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wheres my car
()
Date: September 11, 2013 10:04PM
Madison who? this chantilly team scored 61 points and completely shut down lee and beat stonebridge in the 1st preseason game.
This is the best chantilly team in quite some time
This is the best chantilly team in quite some time
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wildcatsrbetter
()
Date: September 12, 2013 07:18AM
"beating shitty lee doesnt make you a contender. stay in 4th place while the real squad at centreville takes the concorde. fuck chantilly."
-everyone that matters.
-everyone that matters.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimmy The Greek
()
Date: September 12, 2013 07:40AM
1. That Lee/Edison game featured no defense showing for the game. A boy scout troop could drop 50 on those teams.
2. I believe that SB scrimmage was split squad, you got the B team.
Nice try, best Chantilly in quite some time, BAAHAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!
24-20 - Madison
2. I believe that SB scrimmage was split squad, you got the B team.
Nice try, best Chantilly in quite some time, BAAHAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!
24-20 - Madison
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Purple Knight
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:45AM
How good Chantilly is compared to a Centreville, Westfield and Lake Braddock is debatable, but they do have a pretty strong squad with a good new qb and a lot of athleticism, Chantilly will beat Madison by atleast 4 touchdowns. I promise you Chantilly is stronger than Oakton this year, and if Madison went down 42-0 to them, expect a blowout.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
purple knight
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:46AM
And the Stone Bridge scrimmage was a full squad one, it was featured in the post.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
5 Fan
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:38AM
Div 6 rightfully gets most of the press, but I also like to keep an eye on the smaller schools.
Since SoCo is now D6, Fairfax has no chance to even have a Final Four participant in the playoffs this year.
Falls Church, TJ, and Mount Vernon are the three highest rated Fairfax schools.
Imagine those three playing Briar Woods, North Stafford, and Broad Run - never mind Stone Bridge.
Why are the Fairfax D5 schools so bad?
Since SoCo is now D6, Fairfax has no chance to even have a Final Four participant in the playoffs this year.
Falls Church, TJ, and Mount Vernon are the three highest rated Fairfax schools.
Imagine those three playing Briar Woods, North Stafford, and Broad Run - never mind Stone Bridge.
Why are the Fairfax D5 schools so bad?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
5 fan, what!?!
()
Date: September 12, 2013 10:41AM
That is because Falls Church and Mount Vernon both beat a Division 6 school you turd. Yes, the D5 schools are not what they used to be, so just take it for what it is.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
5 Fan
()
Date: September 12, 2013 11:01AM
Turd?
How about the ungodly size of the one I dropped on your mom's breasts last night?
I know they are currently the three highest rated schools in Fairfax. That is why
I was commenting on how terrible the D5 schools from Fairfax are? The fact that
the best they have to offer is Falls Church, TJ, and Mount Vernon.
Herndon is a D6 school in name only, and absolutely handed the game to Mt. Vernon - coach should be fired for calling a pass with under a minute to go and the lead.
And Falls Church beating an Annandale team that has gone 6-24 the last three years doesn't exactly mean a hell of a lot.
Your mom has greats breasts for an old broad, by the way. Who knew she was into Stanley Steamers?
Next up for her? Bucking Bronco or Dirty Sanchez. Or both....
How about the ungodly size of the one I dropped on your mom's breasts last night?
I know they are currently the three highest rated schools in Fairfax. That is why
I was commenting on how terrible the D5 schools from Fairfax are? The fact that
the best they have to offer is Falls Church, TJ, and Mount Vernon.
Herndon is a D6 school in name only, and absolutely handed the game to Mt. Vernon - coach should be fired for calling a pass with under a minute to go and the lead.
And Falls Church beating an Annandale team that has gone 6-24 the last three years doesn't exactly mean a hell of a lot.
Your mom has greats breasts for an old broad, by the way. Who knew she was into Stanley Steamers?
Next up for her? Bucking Bronco or Dirty Sanchez. Or both....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostradamus
()
Date: September 12, 2013 11:42AM
Jimmy The Greek Wrote:
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> Madison beats Chantilly tomorrow 24-20.
After watching Madion get outclassed in every aspect of the game by a mediocre Oakton team, I doubt Madison could even score a touchdown against Chantilly. A field goal is possible, but unlikely.
My prediction 49-0.
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> Madison beats Chantilly tomorrow 24-20.
After watching Madion get outclassed in every aspect of the game by a mediocre Oakton team, I doubt Madison could even score a touchdown against Chantilly. A field goal is possible, but unlikely.
My prediction 49-0.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:24PM
Cmon Nostradamus, you have to figure the 2nd or third team will give up something. Madison will score one - maybe
As for the Fairfax County Division 6 teams, I think it is something like this:
1. Centreville - because of their weapons and depth but have not been challenged.
2. LB - Nice win over SB
3-5 3 way tie (Chantilly, Westfield and South County)
6. Langley
On September 20th, things will play out nicely. LB vs Westfield and Chantilly vs South County. Will clear many things up, early in the season.
As for the Fairfax County Division 6 teams, I think it is something like this:
1. Centreville - because of their weapons and depth but have not been challenged.
2. LB - Nice win over SB
3-5 3 way tie (Chantilly, Westfield and South County)
6. Langley
On September 20th, things will play out nicely. LB vs Westfield and Chantilly vs South County. Will clear many things up, early in the season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jerry Sandickie
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:51PM
Stone Bridge finally played a real team and got served! LOL
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jontdhy
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:11PM
Madison just scored so there goes your theory
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
full disclosure
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:53PM
Jontdhy Wrote:
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> Madison just scored so there goes your theory
A field goal that is, to be down 28-3 at halftime.
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> Madison just scored so there goes your theory
A field goal that is, to be down 28-3 at halftime.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostradamus
()
Date: September 13, 2013 09:34AM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Cmon Nostradamus, you have to figure the 2nd or
> third team will give up something. Madison will
> score one - maybe
>
> As for the Fairfax County Division 6 teams, I
> think it is something like this:
>
> 1. Centreville - because of their weapons and
> depth but have not been challenged.
>
> 2. LB - Nice win over SB
> 3-5 3 way tie (Chantilly, Westfield and South
> County)
> 6. Langley
>
> On September 20th, things will play out nicely.
> LB vs Westfield and Chantilly vs South County.
> Will clear many things up, early in the season.
Looks like your right, Football Fever. Final score Chantilly 42 Madison 17.
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> Cmon Nostradamus, you have to figure the 2nd or
> third team will give up something. Madison will
> score one - maybe
>
> As for the Fairfax County Division 6 teams, I
> think it is something like this:
>
> 1. Centreville - because of their weapons and
> depth but have not been challenged.
>
> 2. LB - Nice win over SB
> 3-5 3 way tie (Chantilly, Westfield and South
> County)
> 6. Langley
>
> On September 20th, things will play out nicely.
> LB vs Westfield and Chantilly vs South County.
> Will clear many things up, early in the season.
Looks like your right, Football Fever. Final score Chantilly 42 Madison 17.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
StinkyWarhawk
()
Date: September 13, 2013 09:54AM
full disclosure Wrote:
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> Jontdhy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Madison just scored so there goes your theory
>
> A field goal that is, to be down 28-3 at halftime.
Madison is awful! Looks like a 150 lb youth league team playing Varsity High School football. So much for Madison/Vienna swag, they are embarrassing. They will have to wait until they get into their soft district schedule to maybe win a game.
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> Jontdhy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Madison just scored so there goes your theory
>
> A field goal that is, to be down 28-3 at halftime.
Madison is awful! Looks like a 150 lb youth league team playing Varsity High School football. So much for Madison/Vienna swag, they are embarrassing. They will have to wait until they get into their soft district schedule to maybe win a game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
the man
()
Date: September 13, 2013 10:02AM
Chantillys going to struggle on D this season. but they will be able to score.Next week vs SoCo will be big. Centrevill/LB at the top and Chantilly, westfield, SoCo just below sounds about right
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Liberty fan
()
Date: September 13, 2013 12:09PM
StinkyWarhawk Wrote:
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> full disclosure Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jontdhy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Madison just scored so there goes your theory
> >
> > A field goal that is, to be down 28-3 at
> halftime.
>
>
> Madison is awful! Looks like a 150 lb youth
> league team playing Varsity High School football.
> So much for Madison/Vienna swag, they are
> embarrassing. They will have to wait until they
> get into their soft district schedule to maybe win
> a game.
The district schedule is probably not going to be as soft as usual this year. Langley and Fairfax appear to be better than expected and SB is going to do what they always do in district play (Langley gave them a good run though). I saw Westfield/SL and although the score was what you would expect it to be SL didn't look as physically overmatched as they have in the past. McLean, TJ and Marshall look like the softer teams so far this year.
Anyone got some of the other HS scores from last night? The Post's coverage was lacking this morning.
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> full disclosure Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jontdhy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Madison just scored so there goes your theory
> >
> > A field goal that is, to be down 28-3 at
> halftime.
>
>
> Madison is awful! Looks like a 150 lb youth
> league team playing Varsity High School football.
> So much for Madison/Vienna swag, they are
> embarrassing. They will have to wait until they
> get into their soft district schedule to maybe win
> a game.
The district schedule is probably not going to be as soft as usual this year. Langley and Fairfax appear to be better than expected and SB is going to do what they always do in district play (Langley gave them a good run though). I saw Westfield/SL and although the score was what you would expect it to be SL didn't look as physically overmatched as they have in the past. McLean, TJ and Marshall look like the softer teams so far this year.
Anyone got some of the other HS scores from last night? The Post's coverage was lacking this morning.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JewInABox
()
Date: September 13, 2013 03:18PM
Yom Kippur is today and I know a lot of schools are not playing Friday night. Did all schools do this or is someone playing tonight? And how come nobody talking about the games that went down yesterday?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Antisemitism = Evil
()
Date: September 13, 2013 04:07PM
Fairfax is so antisemitic it is pitiful, Fairfax puts football before God.
The great turf hustle of 2013 should have made it obvious where Karen Garza's priorities are.
The great turf hustle of 2013 should have made it obvious where Karen Garza's priorities are.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 15, 2013 07:57PM
Who do y'all have this week?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bob7654987654
()
Date: September 16, 2013 08:46PM
Game of the week Madison Fairfax game! Any predictions I call Madison 21-18. It will be a good one
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dapicker
()
Date: September 16, 2013 09:02PM
bob7654987654 Wrote:
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> Game of the week Madison Fairfax game! Any
> predictions I call Madison 21-18. It will be a
> good one
Fairfax wins this going away! Madison is terrible, Nick Scott will gain over 200 yards.
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> Game of the week Madison Fairfax game! Any
> predictions I call Madison 21-18. It will be a
> good one
Fairfax wins this going away! Madison is terrible, Nick Scott will gain over 200 yards.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 16, 2013 09:07PM
I hope you are saying this just to instill some discussion.
Stone Bridge/Broad Run, Westfield/Lake Braddock, South County/Chantilly are all better games than Fairfax Madison Will keep up with those games on GameDayMagazine since I can't attend
These 3 games can very possibly determine the strength of each teams. Stone bridge game up a lot of points the first two weeks and Broad Run can see if they are a States qualified team. Westfield and Lake Braddock can determine their dominance and South County or Chantilly can make a strong statement in D6 North
Almost feel bad for Hayfield, Westfield, South County now Centreville.
Stone Bridge/Broad Run, Westfield/Lake Braddock, South County/Chantilly are all better games than Fairfax Madison Will keep up with those games on GameDayMagazine since I can't attend
These 3 games can very possibly determine the strength of each teams. Stone bridge game up a lot of points the first two weeks and Broad Run can see if they are a States qualified team. Westfield and Lake Braddock can determine their dominance and South County or Chantilly can make a strong statement in D6 North
Almost feel bad for Hayfield, Westfield, South County now Centreville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
feel bad?
()
Date: September 16, 2013 10:47PM
Why feel bad for Centreville?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 17, 2013 07:34AM
He means feel bad for hayfield
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steve K2
()
Date: September 17, 2013 09:53AM
Here are the game spreads for the week. Probably the best set of games this year collectively. Westfield/Lake Braddock and South County/Chantilly are must see games. This is the first time in a long time that two Concorde powers are the under dog, but both are very capable of winning in what should be two very close games.
Herndon/South Lakes should be a good rivalry game, both are pretty bad so expect it to be close. Madison/Fairfax will be a good district game, but I expect Fairfax to be too much for Madison. McLean/Falls Church could go either way, chance to make a statement for Falls Church.
Annandale @ Oakton (-31.0)
Centreville (-35.0) @ Hayfield
Freedom-SR (-7.0) @ Marshall
Herndon @ South Lakes (-3.5)
Madison @ Fairfax (-14.0)
McLean @ Falls Church (-7.0)
Robinson (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon
South County (-7.5) @ Chantilly
Stuart @ W&L (-14.0)
Wakefield @ Jefferson (-17.0)
West Potomac (-10.0) @ WT Woodson
West Springfield @ Lee (-14.0)
Herndon/South Lakes should be a good rivalry game, both are pretty bad so expect it to be close. Madison/Fairfax will be a good district game, but I expect Fairfax to be too much for Madison. McLean/Falls Church could go either way, chance to make a statement for Falls Church.
Annandale @ Oakton (-31.0)
Centreville (-35.0) @ Hayfield
Freedom-SR (-7.0) @ Marshall
Herndon @ South Lakes (-3.5)
Madison @ Fairfax (-14.0)
McLean @ Falls Church (-7.0)
Robinson (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon
South County (-7.5) @ Chantilly
Stuart @ W&L (-14.0)
Wakefield @ Jefferson (-17.0)
West Potomac (-10.0) @ WT Woodson
West Springfield @ Lee (-14.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steve K2
()
Date: September 17, 2013 09:54AM
Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-8.5)
Yorktown (-21.0) @ Edison
Yorktown (-21.0) @ Edison
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Chang
()
Date: September 17, 2013 12:06PM
s/o to bye weeks
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Kills
()
Date: September 17, 2013 02:25PM
Explain this, Tammy Kaufax, Patty Reed, Ryon McElveen and Karen Garza:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1776791-high-school-football-player-dies-after-helmet-to-helmet-collision?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t3
I can guarantee you, science books are not lethal!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1776791-high-school-football-player-dies-after-helmet-to-helmet-collision?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t3
I can guarantee you, science books are not lethal!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 17, 2013 06:57PM
Football Kills Wrote:
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> I can guarantee you, science books are not lethal!
Maybe not... but schools are:
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/130619057/1076/Teen-electrocuted-on-roof-next-to-Fox-Mill-Elementary-School&template=fairfaxTimes
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> I can guarantee you, science books are not lethal!
Maybe not... but schools are:
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130619/NEWS/130619057/1076/Teen-electrocuted-on-roof-next-to-Fox-Mill-Elementary-School&template=fairfaxTimes
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonny
()
Date: September 19, 2013 08:45AM
Getting hyped for Westfield/lake Braddock and chantilly/soco
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 19, 2013 08:48AM
Agreed. Best two games of the weekend
I will be at Centreville but definitely keeping an eye on them
I will be at Centreville but definitely keeping an eye on them
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Warnet
()
Date: September 19, 2013 07:37PM
So is TC Williams or Langley going to win their matchup on Saturday? I honestly can't decide. Looking to be a good game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Locks
()
Date: September 19, 2013 08:20PM
Annandale 0 @ Oakton 27
Centreville 42 @ Hayfield 6
Freedom-SR 31 @ Marshall 12
Herndon 20 @ South Lakes 21
Madison 14 @ Fairfax 27
McLean 21 @ Falls Church 23
Robinson 48 @ Mount Vernon 6
South County 28 @ Chantilly 14
Stuart 12 @ W&L 21
Wakefield 19 @ Jefferson 28
West Potomac 20 @ WT Woodson 21
West Springfield 10 @ Lee 34
Centreville 42 @ Hayfield 6
Freedom-SR 31 @ Marshall 12
Herndon 20 @ South Lakes 21
Madison 14 @ Fairfax 27
McLean 21 @ Falls Church 23
Robinson 48 @ Mount Vernon 6
South County 28 @ Chantilly 14
Stuart 12 @ W&L 21
Wakefield 19 @ Jefferson 28
West Potomac 20 @ WT Woodson 21
West Springfield 10 @ Lee 34
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
killinem
()
Date: September 20, 2013 09:28AM
Annandale 7 @ Oakton 27
Centreville 35 @ Hayfield 24
Freedom-SR 35 @ Marshall 10
Herndon 27 @ South Lakes 21
Madison 17 @ Fairfax 38
McLean 27 @ Falls Church 24
Robinson 35 @ Mount Vernon 14
South County 28 @ Chantilly 31
Stuart 10 @ W&L 24
Wakefield 17 @ Jefferson 28
West Potomac 42 @ WT Woodson 14
West Springfield 21 @ Lee 27
Centreville 35 @ Hayfield 24
Freedom-SR 35 @ Marshall 10
Herndon 27 @ South Lakes 21
Madison 17 @ Fairfax 38
McLean 27 @ Falls Church 24
Robinson 35 @ Mount Vernon 14
South County 28 @ Chantilly 31
Stuart 10 @ W&L 24
Wakefield 17 @ Jefferson 28
West Potomac 42 @ WT Woodson 14
West Springfield 21 @ Lee 27
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
yall crazy
()
Date: September 20, 2013 11:16AM
Annandale 7 @ Oakton 45
Centreville 55 @ Hayfield 45
Freedom-SR 60 @ Marshall 0
Herndon 0 @ South Lakes 14 -upset alert, herndon is bad
Madison 21 @ Fairfax 48 -Rebels have elite rbs/wrs, Madison is BAD on defense
McLean 42 @ Falls Church 35
Robinson 42 @ Mount Vernon 7
South County 14 @ Chantilly 36
Stuart 14 @ W&L 21
Wakefield 3 @ Jefferson 14
West Potomac 42 @ WT Woodson 7 -demornay taking over west po tries to rebound.
West Springfield 42 @ Lee 21 -why is everyone on lee? seen them play... really bad on defense, got athletes in space in fluke game vs edison. they stink!
Game of the week: Westfield 42 @ Lake Braddock 14 -westfield reclaims D6 north
Centreville 55 @ Hayfield 45
Freedom-SR 60 @ Marshall 0
Herndon 0 @ South Lakes 14 -upset alert, herndon is bad
Madison 21 @ Fairfax 48 -Rebels have elite rbs/wrs, Madison is BAD on defense
McLean 42 @ Falls Church 35
Robinson 42 @ Mount Vernon 7
South County 14 @ Chantilly 36
Stuart 14 @ W&L 21
Wakefield 3 @ Jefferson 14
West Potomac 42 @ WT Woodson 7 -demornay taking over west po tries to rebound.
West Springfield 42 @ Lee 21 -why is everyone on lee? seen them play... really bad on defense, got athletes in space in fluke game vs edison. they stink!
Game of the week: Westfield 42 @ Lake Braddock 14 -westfield reclaims D6 north
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
South Riding Resident
()
Date: September 20, 2013 11:31AM
I don't think the last three posters realize how bad Freedom SR is. Their jv team just lost 52-6 to Marshall. Marshall gets their first win in two years tonight.
Also no way Westfield beats Braddock by 4 touchdowns, I wouldn't be suprised if Westfield won, but if they do Braddock is still going to get their points.
Also no way Westfield beats Braddock by 4 touchdowns, I wouldn't be suprised if Westfield won, but if they do Braddock is still going to get their points.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:12PM
Yeah, FR-SR probably has the worst football program in Loudoun County, but on the other hand Marshall was 0-10 last year and have only scored 9 points in their 2 losses this year. So it will interesting to see who will actually win this one.
Agree - no way Westfield wins by 4 TDs. I pick LB to win this game.
Agree - no way Westfield wins by 4 TDs. I pick LB to win this game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Kyle Shrimmons
()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:19PM
No way, Mclean beats Falls Church by score of 42-35. Either Falls Church blows them out or it could be a three point game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
voiceofreason22222
()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:40PM
Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats marshall!
Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes could pull this off...
Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then usual, but can they knock off big dogs?
McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly maybe the second best concorde?
West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out disciplines west po easy.
West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets exposed for what they are...lee
Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game, could go either way. i think Henderson shines
thoughts?
Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats marshall!
Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes could pull this off...
Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then usual, but can they knock off big dogs?
McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly maybe the second best concorde?
West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out disciplines west po easy.
West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets exposed for what they are...lee
Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game, could go either way. i think Henderson shines
thoughts?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
This week
()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:53PM
Cmon, some people are way out there, trying to get a reaction and seems to be a Westfiled homer.
CVilles first team has given up 3 points in two games. No way Hayfield scores 35 but I could see 45 on CVills part, And South County will give Chantilly a run for their money, especially as I heard Deandre is out for Tilly
LB 24 Westfield 21
CVilles first team has given up 3 points in two games. No way Hayfield scores 35 but I could see 45 on CVills part, And South County will give Chantilly a run for their money, especially as I heard Deandre is out for Tilly
LB 24 Westfield 21
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KYmND
()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:53PM
voiceofreason22222 Wrote:
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> Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
> Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
> Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats marshall!
> Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes could
> pull this off...
> Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then usual,
> but can they knock off big dogs?
> McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
> Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
> South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly maybe
> the second best concorde?
> West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out
> disciplines west po easy.
> West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets exposed
> for what they are...lee
> Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game, could
> go either way. i think Henderson shines
>
> thoughts?
Yes, you spend way too much time worrying about little boys playing with balls.
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> Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
> Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
> Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats marshall!
> Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes could
> pull this off...
> Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then usual,
> but can they knock off big dogs?
> McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
> Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
> South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly maybe
> the second best concorde?
> West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out
> disciplines west po easy.
> West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets exposed
> for what they are...lee
> Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game, could
> go either way. i think Henderson shines
>
> thoughts?
Yes, you spend way too much time worrying about little boys playing with balls.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordebacker
()
Date: September 20, 2013 01:08PM
KYmND Wrote:
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> voiceofreason22222 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
> > Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
> > Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats marshall!
> > Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes could
> > pull this off...
> > Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then
> usual,
> > but can they knock off big dogs?
> > McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
> > Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
> > South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly
> maybe
> > the second best concorde?
> > West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out
> > disciplines west po easy.
> > West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets exposed
> > for what they are...lee
> > Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game,
> could
> > go either way. i think Henderson shines
> >
> > thoughts?
>
>
> Yes, you spend way too much time worrying about
> little boys playing with balls.
How much of a WANNABE do you have to be to keep coming on an ongoing football board and make stupid, gay comments about high school football. Dude get a life and post on the "I am so fucking miserable I have nothing better to do than make stupid, gay remarks on the high school football board forum".
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> voiceofreason22222 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
> > Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
> > Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats marshall!
> > Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes could
> > pull this off...
> > Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then
> usual,
> > but can they knock off big dogs?
> > McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
> > Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
> > South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly
> maybe
> > the second best concorde?
> > West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out
> > disciplines west po easy.
> > West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets exposed
> > for what they are...lee
> > Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game,
> could
> > go either way. i think Henderson shines
> >
> > thoughts?
>
>
> Yes, you spend way too much time worrying about
> little boys playing with balls.
How much of a WANNABE do you have to be to keep coming on an ongoing football board and make stupid, gay comments about high school football. Dude get a life and post on the "I am so fucking miserable I have nothing better to do than make stupid, gay remarks on the high school football board forum".
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Big night tonight
()
Date: September 20, 2013 01:19PM
Concordebacker Wrote:
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> KYmND Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > voiceofreason22222 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
> > > Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
> > > Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats
> marshall!
> > > Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes
> could
> > > pull this off...
> > > Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then
> > usual,
> > > but can they knock off big dogs?
> > > McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
> > > Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
> > > South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly
> > maybe
> > > the second best concorde?
> > > West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out
> > > disciplines west po easy.
> > > West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets
> exposed
> > > for what they are...lee
> > > Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game,
> > could
> > > go either way. i think Henderson shines
> > >
> > > thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Yes, you spend way too much time worrying about
> > little boys playing with balls.
>
> How much of a WANNABE do you have to be to keep
> coming on an ongoing football board and make
> stupid, gay comments about high school football.
> Dude get a life and post on the "I am so fucking
> miserable I have nothing better to do than make
> stupid, gay remarks on the high school football
> board forum".
As much as I agree with you, we can't feed the Troll or that stupid SOB will keep coming back. Just ignore everything he writes....starting now.
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> KYmND Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > voiceofreason22222 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Annandale 7 @ Oakton 21
> > > Centreville 45 @ Hayfield 28
> > > Freedom-SR 10 @ Marshall 21 -congrats
> marshall!
> > > Herndon 10 @ South Lakes 13 -south lakes
> could
> > > pull this off...
> > > Madison 7 @ Fairfax 43 -fairfax better then
> > usual,
> > > but can they knock off big dogs?
> > > McLean 17 @ Falls Church 10
> > > Robinson 45 @ Mount Vernon 0
> > > South County 7 @ Chantilly 29 - is chantilly
> > maybe
> > > the second best concorde?
> > > West Potomac 7 @ WT Woodson 21 -woodson out
> > > disciplines west po easy.
> > > West Springfield 35 @ Lee 10 - lee gets
> exposed
> > > for what they are...lee
> > > Westfield 21 @ Lake Braddock 28 - huge game,
> > could
> > > go either way. i think Henderson shines
> > >
> > > thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Yes, you spend way too much time worrying about
> > little boys playing with balls.
>
> How much of a WANNABE do you have to be to keep
> coming on an ongoing football board and make
> stupid, gay comments about high school football.
> Dude get a life and post on the "I am so fucking
> miserable I have nothing better to do than make
> stupid, gay remarks on the high school football
> board forum".
As much as I agree with you, we can't feed the Troll or that stupid SOB will keep coming back. Just ignore everything he writes....starting now.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: September 20, 2013 02:19PM
West Springfield at Lee tonight is a matchup of two below average teams, but don't forget that someone has to win. Lee should have enough firepower behind their senior running back Michael Jolly to take the win 34 to 21 over whatever strange things that new Spartans coach is up to across town . . . and Lee has also had a bye week for their coach to go looking for that missing page on defensive plays his dog must have eaten over the summer.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hayfieldalum
()
Date: September 20, 2013 06:29PM
NO WAY IN HELL does hayfield score more than twice against Centreville, Hayfield looks very very bad this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: September 20, 2013 10:20PM
Well, I'll eat my words. Michael Jolly is injured, possibly ending Lee's hopes for a somewhat decent year. West Springfield wins in overtime 28 to 21. See you all next year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bystand3r
()
Date: September 20, 2013 10:56PM
Falls Church beats McLean 28-21.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
the man
()
Date: September 20, 2013 11:54PM
Chantilly just knocked off a outstanding SC team tonite. down by 2 tds in 4th qrter they showed poise in comeback.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hey nat4lee
()
Date: September 21, 2013 12:04AM
He played the whole game and got hurt at the VERY end...Lee is poorly coached and it shouldn't have even been that close. WSHS 4Life.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nick O
()
Date: September 21, 2013 12:18AM
The refs screwed soco on the last td
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I bet...
()
Date: September 21, 2013 12:25AM
Hey "Nick O" I bet the refs are screwing your mom now. Gotta get that after the game fuck on right? With your momma.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nick O
()
Date: September 21, 2013 12:27AM
They was driving than a uncalled offsides led to a fumble recovery for a td
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Are you famous??
()
Date: September 21, 2013 12:31AM
Nick O....are you really....FORREST GUMP?!?!?! "They was DRIviNG!"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
riley
()
Date: September 21, 2013 12:44AM
Falls Church 3-0. Believe the hype!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Herb Cohen
()
Date: September 21, 2013 08:33AM
What was the Oakton score?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Final Scores
()
Date: September 21, 2013 08:47AM
Annandale @ Oakton (-31.0)
Oakton 34-15, did not cover spread
Centreville (-35.0) @ Hayfield
Centreville 44-7. Hayfield isn't great this year, but to the above poster, they've played Westfield, South County, and Centreville their first 3 games. As they get into their district, they will make a run for it all. I believe they're better than Falls Church, and you put Falls Church against those 3 teams they would be 0-3 versus 3-0 with worse losses.
Freedom-SR (-7.0) @ Marshall
Freedom SR wins 40-15.
Herndon @ South Lakes (-3.5)
South Lakes wins 10-7. Real good rivalry game.
Madison @ Fairfax (-14.0)
Fairfax wins 34-14, goes to 3-0, but haven't played anyone real big yet.
McLean @ Falls Church (-7.0)
Falls Church wins 28-21. Great comeback by the Jaguars down 18-6 at halftime. Falls Church is 3-0 and good for them and the community.
Robinson (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon
Robinson wins 56-20.
South County (-7.5) @ Chantilly
Chantilly wins 42-34. Fantastic comeback for the Chargers, both these teams look pretty legit.
Stuart @ W&L (-14.0)
W&L wins 15-10.
Wakefield @ Jefferson (-17.0)
Jefferson wins 22-7.
West Potomac (-10.0) @ WT Woodson
West Po wins 24-7.
West Springfield @ Lee (-14.0)
West Springfield wins 28-21 in OT. Good win for the Spartans, Lee was the more talented team.
Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-8.5)
Lake Braddock wins 28-24. Super game and the region is on notice that Westfield is still Westfield. Great performance by the Bulldogs.
Yorktown (-21.0) @ Edison
Yorktown wins 44-18
Oakton 34-15, did not cover spread
Centreville (-35.0) @ Hayfield
Centreville 44-7. Hayfield isn't great this year, but to the above poster, they've played Westfield, South County, and Centreville their first 3 games. As they get into their district, they will make a run for it all. I believe they're better than Falls Church, and you put Falls Church against those 3 teams they would be 0-3 versus 3-0 with worse losses.
Freedom-SR (-7.0) @ Marshall
Freedom SR wins 40-15.
Herndon @ South Lakes (-3.5)
South Lakes wins 10-7. Real good rivalry game.
Madison @ Fairfax (-14.0)
Fairfax wins 34-14, goes to 3-0, but haven't played anyone real big yet.
McLean @ Falls Church (-7.0)
Falls Church wins 28-21. Great comeback by the Jaguars down 18-6 at halftime. Falls Church is 3-0 and good for them and the community.
Robinson (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon
Robinson wins 56-20.
South County (-7.5) @ Chantilly
Chantilly wins 42-34. Fantastic comeback for the Chargers, both these teams look pretty legit.
Stuart @ W&L (-14.0)
W&L wins 15-10.
Wakefield @ Jefferson (-17.0)
Jefferson wins 22-7.
West Potomac (-10.0) @ WT Woodson
West Po wins 24-7.
West Springfield @ Lee (-14.0)
West Springfield wins 28-21 in OT. Good win for the Spartans, Lee was the more talented team.
Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-8.5)
Lake Braddock wins 28-24. Super game and the region is on notice that Westfield is still Westfield. Great performance by the Bulldogs.
Yorktown (-21.0) @ Edison
Yorktown wins 44-18
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nelson Muntz
()
Date: September 21, 2013 01:09PM
Bystand3r Wrote:
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> Falls Church beats McLean 28-21.
Ha Ha!!!
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> Falls Church beats McLean 28-21.
Ha Ha!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Uhhhhhhhhh
()
Date: September 21, 2013 01:11PM
Remember when everyone said west springfield wouldn't win a single game all year...? Don't judge a book by its cover my friends.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Small School, No Team
()
Date: September 21, 2013 01:35PM
Freedom had lost each of its prior games by at least three touchdowns and still managed to demolish Marshall by 25. Looks like Marshall will be 0-10 again this year. LOL.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WS
()
Date: September 21, 2013 06:53PM
Who is west springfield playing next?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: September 21, 2013 07:34PM
WS Wrote:
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> Who is west springfield playing next?
They're playing at Centreville. Sorry, but WS has no chance. I would put the spread at about 35 and would expect Cville to cover.
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> Who is west springfield playing next?
They're playing at Centreville. Sorry, but WS has no chance. I would put the spread at about 35 and would expect Cville to cover.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartan Fan
()
Date: September 21, 2013 11:24PM
Uhhhhhhhhh Wrote:
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> Remember when everyone said west springfield
> wouldn't win a single game all year...? Don't
> judge a book by its cover my friends.
Show me where anyone said they wouldn't win a game? People simply pointed out there was a very questionable coaching gure and the team wouldn't be good. Both of those facts are true.
Woohoo beating Lee. This team was a playoff team last year and still has some talent. Who ever is coaching though won't have us close to Centreville, I think the 35 point spread is very accurate.
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> Remember when everyone said west springfield
> wouldn't win a single game all year...? Don't
> judge a book by its cover my friends.
Show me where anyone said they wouldn't win a game? People simply pointed out there was a very questionable coaching gure and the team wouldn't be good. Both of those facts are true.
Woohoo beating Lee. This team was a playoff team last year and still has some talent. Who ever is coaching though won't have us close to Centreville, I think the 35 point spread is very accurate.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: September 22, 2013 07:53AM
Wow- West Springfield beat Herndon- the worst team in the region by 2 and beat Lee- a school that is not good in a lower division- in overtime. WS now gets to play comparable schools and it will be ugly. If WS' goal is to compete with Herndon and Lee and lose to EDISON, then congratulations. Getting tired of answering the question 'what has happened to WS? It used to be such a great school not too long ago.' Not sure how to respond to these questions except WS has had terrible hires for principals and coaches and has no sports leadership at all.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartans6
()
Date: September 22, 2013 12:40PM
spartanjoke Wrote:
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> Wow- West Springfield beat Herndon- the worst team
> in the region by 2 and beat Lee- a school that is
> not good in a lower division- in overtime. WS now
> gets to play comparable schools and it will be
> ugly. If WS' goal is to compete with Herndon and
> Lee and lose to EDISON, then congratulations.
> Getting tired of answering the question 'what has
> happened to WS? It used to be such a great school
> not too long ago.' Not sure how to respond to
> these questions except WS has had terrible hires
> for principals and coaches and has no sports
> leadership at all.
Spartanjoke - who crapped in your cheerios? Almost every team WS plays this year will be faster, bigger, and have more depth. There are no game breakers on this team. I think the current coaching staff has the kids playing pretty well, all things considered. You may not like the football coaching hire but the kids seeing to be buying in to what he is saying. One thing about this group of kids is that they will not quit, overmatched or not. The kids all know that they are going up against a skilled, well-coached Centreville team. I believe the team, the coaching staff, and the student body are looking forward to the game. It just might end up a little closer than people think.
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> Wow- West Springfield beat Herndon- the worst team
> in the region by 2 and beat Lee- a school that is
> not good in a lower division- in overtime. WS now
> gets to play comparable schools and it will be
> ugly. If WS' goal is to compete with Herndon and
> Lee and lose to EDISON, then congratulations.
> Getting tired of answering the question 'what has
> happened to WS? It used to be such a great school
> not too long ago.' Not sure how to respond to
> these questions except WS has had terrible hires
> for principals and coaches and has no sports
> leadership at all.
Spartanjoke - who crapped in your cheerios? Almost every team WS plays this year will be faster, bigger, and have more depth. There are no game breakers on this team. I think the current coaching staff has the kids playing pretty well, all things considered. You may not like the football coaching hire but the kids seeing to be buying in to what he is saying. One thing about this group of kids is that they will not quit, overmatched or not. The kids all know that they are going up against a skilled, well-coached Centreville team. I believe the team, the coaching staff, and the student body are looking forward to the game. It just might end up a little closer than people think.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Socofootballplayer65
()
Date: September 22, 2013 10:01PM
I can't wait until we play lake Braddock it will be such a high scoring game
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Incorrect
()
Date: September 22, 2013 11:13PM
Well I think WS is doing pretty well for their first year under a new coaching staff, an entirely new offense, and losing around 15 starters from last year regardless of the team you play winning in overtime takes discipline and a will to win. So please, pull some more pathetic excuses out of your ass about how bad they're. I can beat almost all of you criticizing them Havnt even seen them play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spartanjoke is a dick
()
Date: September 22, 2013 11:37PM
Spartan joke,
Do you know how many playoff games WSHS has been in? Since the late 60's, it's 13. 13. So why the hell do you think this is some power-house football team that is used to winning state championships??? You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Shut your fucking mouth about WSHS or do something about it.
Be a man...go to the school on Monday and talk to a coach. You won't. Because you're a pussy.
Do you know how many playoff games WSHS has been in? Since the late 60's, it's 13. 13. So why the hell do you think this is some power-house football team that is used to winning state championships??? You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Shut your fucking mouth about WSHS or do something about it.
Be a man...go to the school on Monday and talk to a coach. You won't. Because you're a pussy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 24, 2013 01:39PM
Here are the spreads for week 5. Looks like mostly blowouts this Friday.
Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
Chantilly (-10.0) @ Langley
Edison (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Fairfax @ Westfield (-17.0)
Falls Church @ Yorktown (-10.5)
TJ (-17.0) @ Marshall
Lee @ South County (-28.0)
Madison @ Stone Bridge (-21.0)
McLean (-8.0) @ South Lakes
Robinson (-20.0) @ Herndon
Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
Woodson @ TC Williams (10.0)
Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-6.5)
West Potomac @ Oakton (-14.0)
West Springfield @ Centreville (-34.0)
Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
Chantilly (-10.0) @ Langley
Edison (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Fairfax @ Westfield (-17.0)
Falls Church @ Yorktown (-10.5)
TJ (-17.0) @ Marshall
Lee @ South County (-28.0)
Madison @ Stone Bridge (-21.0)
McLean (-8.0) @ South Lakes
Robinson (-20.0) @ Herndon
Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
Woodson @ TC Williams (10.0)
Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-6.5)
West Potomac @ Oakton (-14.0)
West Springfield @ Centreville (-34.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: September 24, 2013 01:46PM
Looks about right. I think Langley will make it closer as they have played a couple of good teams tough.
This will be Hayfield's chance to see what they can really do and TC Williams should go 3-1 for the first time in a while from my understanding.
Falls Church will have a hard -but not impossible- time going 4-0.
Some interesting story lines but no real good games. Next week will get significantly better.
This will be Hayfield's chance to see what they can really do and TC Williams should go 3-1 for the first time in a while from my understanding.
Falls Church will have a hard -but not impossible- time going 4-0.
Some interesting story lines but no real good games. Next week will get significantly better.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordebacker
()
Date: September 24, 2013 06:55PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Here are the spreads for week 5. Looks like
> mostly blowouts this Friday.
>
> Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
> Chantilly (-10.0) @ Langley
> Edison (-14.0) @ Wakefield
> Fairfax @ Westfield (-17.0)
> Falls Church @ Yorktown (-10.5)
> TJ (-17.0) @ Marshall
> Lee @ South County (-28.0)
> Madison @ Stone Bridge (-21.0)
> McLean (-8.0) @ South Lakes
> Robinson (-20.0) @ Herndon
> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
> Woodson @ TC Williams (10.0)
> Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-6.5)
> West Potomac @ Oakton (-14.0)
> West Springfield @ Centreville (-34.0)
Langley at Chantilly will be closer than most think. West Pot and Oakton as well other than those I agree blowout Friday
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> Here are the spreads for week 5. Looks like
> mostly blowouts this Friday.
>
> Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
> Chantilly (-10.0) @ Langley
> Edison (-14.0) @ Wakefield
> Fairfax @ Westfield (-17.0)
> Falls Church @ Yorktown (-10.5)
> TJ (-17.0) @ Marshall
> Lee @ South County (-28.0)
> Madison @ Stone Bridge (-21.0)
> McLean (-8.0) @ South Lakes
> Robinson (-20.0) @ Herndon
> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
> Woodson @ TC Williams (10.0)
> Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-6.5)
> West Potomac @ Oakton (-14.0)
> West Springfield @ Centreville (-34.0)
Langley at Chantilly will be closer than most think. West Pot and Oakton as well other than those I agree blowout Friday
Fairfax vs. Westfield??
Posted by:
bob dtlafkrfdw
()
Date: September 24, 2013 07:14PM
Any thoughts on this game? most likely westfield blow out though. Will have to see what Fairfax does. Alot of talk about it though
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fewlkdf merdde
()
Date: September 24, 2013 09:04PM
Do you mean Fairfax vs. Westfield, please remember to include that you dummy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
pannel
()
Date: September 25, 2013 12:38AM
expect hayfield to run the score up on Washington Lee if given the opportunity.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Promoter
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:11PM
Game day is almost here!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wakeupwhitey
()
Date: September 27, 2013 04:26PM
oh, wow, so exciting......almost time to watch a bunch of stupid niggers run up and down a field.................whoopee!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
James
()
Date: September 27, 2013 05:43PM
Look for soco to put up a lot of points on lee
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Samuel
()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:46PM
Incoming score:Langley beats Chantilly 42-21
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
soco
()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:58PM
South County 53
Lee 9
(Lee was up 9-7 in the 3rd Q)
W-L beat Hayfield
LB beat Annandale 68-0
Robinson over Herndon 38-0
Lee 9
(Lee was up 9-7 in the 3rd Q)
W-L beat Hayfield
LB beat Annandale 68-0
Robinson over Herndon 38-0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ConcordebackerWhere
()
Date: September 28, 2013 02:57AM
Samuel Wrote:
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> Incoming score:Langley beats Chantilly 42-21
I am scary! I just didn't think Chantilly would allow Langley to kick their ass!! I thought it would be close but Chantilly obviously has no heart, to allow this to happen. Centreville will destroy them on their home field, AGAIN!!
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> Incoming score:Langley beats Chantilly 42-21
I am scary! I just didn't think Chantilly would allow Langley to kick their ass!! I thought it would be close but Chantilly obviously has no heart, to allow this to happen. Centreville will destroy them on their home field, AGAIN!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillefball
()
Date: September 28, 2013 03:12AM
Incorrect Wrote:
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> Well I think WS is doing pretty well for their
> first year under a new coaching staff, an entirely
> new offense, and losing around 15 starters from
> last year regardless of the team you play winning
> in overtime takes discipline and a will to win. So
> please, pull some more pathetic excuses out of
> your ass about how bad they're. I can beat almost
> all of you criticizing them Havnt even seen them
> play.
OMG!! How pathetic is this team 63-0 and Centreville was trying not to score. Do you guys practice? Maybe you are one of these schools that show up on Friday night and decide to alternate positions, you know every one is special and should be treasured!! Holy Shit, and you guys won 2 games! How bad are the teams you beat. Listen, we need you guys to forget this gang rape and pull yourselves together and continue to play hard and beat the teams you should beat. We will need the power points at the end of the year. Who knows maybe we can play again in the playoffs!! LOL!
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> Well I think WS is doing pretty well for their
> first year under a new coaching staff, an entirely
> new offense, and losing around 15 starters from
> last year regardless of the team you play winning
> in overtime takes discipline and a will to win. So
> please, pull some more pathetic excuses out of
> your ass about how bad they're. I can beat almost
> all of you criticizing them Havnt even seen them
> play.
OMG!! How pathetic is this team 63-0 and Centreville was trying not to score. Do you guys practice? Maybe you are one of these schools that show up on Friday night and decide to alternate positions, you know every one is special and should be treasured!! Holy Shit, and you guys won 2 games! How bad are the teams you beat. Listen, we need you guys to forget this gang rape and pull yourselves together and continue to play hard and beat the teams you should beat. We will need the power points at the end of the year. Who knows maybe we can play again in the playoffs!! LOL!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Know sumthin
()
Date: September 28, 2013 08:51AM
Last night's results
Centreville 63, West Springfield 0
Edison 45, Wakefield 14
Lake Braddock 68, Annandale 0
McLean 13, South Lakes 12
Oakton 28, West Potomac 27
South County 53, Lee 9
Westfield 41, Fairfax 0
Yorktown 17, Falls Church 14
Centreville 63, West Springfield 0
Edison 45, Wakefield 14
Lake Braddock 68, Annandale 0
McLean 13, South Lakes 12
Oakton 28, West Potomac 27
South County 53, Lee 9
Westfield 41, Fairfax 0
Yorktown 17, Falls Church 14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bill
()
Date: September 28, 2013 12:03PM
falls church got robbed of the victory by the refs.They constantly called plays in yorktown's favor and were looking for reasons to hand them the game. the refs were atrocious and should be ashamed.They called back a potential game winning TD for no reason. FC's defense was stifling and made things extremely difficult for MJ Stewart.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr bill?
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Date: September 28, 2013 12:30PM
Bill we all know the refs favor the big schools soco got screwed by refs last week v chantilly as well
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: September 28, 2013 12:35PM
Looks like the spreads were too low this week. 13-2 on picking the winners though.
> Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
Lake Braddock won 68-0
> Chantilly (-10.0) @ Langley
Langley won 42-21, Langley is decent, but Chantilly must have over looked them, still a strong Chantilly team.
> Edison (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Edison won 49-14
> Fairfax @ Westfield (-17.0)
Westfield won 41-0, Fairfax was who we thought they were.
> Falls Church @ Yorktown (-10.5)
Yorktown won 17-14, props to Falls Church though, they are showing they are the real deal.
> TJ (-17.0) @ Marshall
TJ won 35-7, poor Marshall.
> Lee @ South County (-28.0)
South County won 53-9
> Madison @ Stone Bridge (-21.0)
Stone Bridge won 42-6
> McLean (-8.0) @ South Lakes
McLean won 13-12
> Robinson (-20.0) @ Herndon
Robinson won 38-0
> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
Mount Vernon won 59-0, Stuart is horrendous and may lose to Marshall.
> Woodson @ TC Williams (10.0)
Played Today
> Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-6.5)
Washington Lee won 23-21. Disappointing year for Hayfield, expected them to role coming off that super tough starting schedule.
> West Potomac @ Oakton (-14.0)
Oakton won 28-21.
> West Springfield @ Centreville (-34.0)
Centreville won 63-0; face their toughest test in Chantilly this week but I don't think it will be very close.
> Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
Lake Braddock won 68-0
> Chantilly (-10.0) @ Langley
Langley won 42-21, Langley is decent, but Chantilly must have over looked them, still a strong Chantilly team.
> Edison (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Edison won 49-14
> Fairfax @ Westfield (-17.0)
Westfield won 41-0, Fairfax was who we thought they were.
> Falls Church @ Yorktown (-10.5)
Yorktown won 17-14, props to Falls Church though, they are showing they are the real deal.
> TJ (-17.0) @ Marshall
TJ won 35-7, poor Marshall.
> Lee @ South County (-28.0)
South County won 53-9
> Madison @ Stone Bridge (-21.0)
Stone Bridge won 42-6
> McLean (-8.0) @ South Lakes
McLean won 13-12
> Robinson (-20.0) @ Herndon
Robinson won 38-0
> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
Mount Vernon won 59-0, Stuart is horrendous and may lose to Marshall.
> Woodson @ TC Williams (10.0)
Played Today
> Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-6.5)
Washington Lee won 23-21. Disappointing year for Hayfield, expected them to role coming off that super tough starting schedule.
> West Potomac @ Oakton (-14.0)
Oakton won 28-21.
> West Springfield @ Centreville (-34.0)
Centreville won 63-0; face their toughest test in Chantilly this week but I don't think it will be very close.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
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Date: September 28, 2013 03:04PM
west Springfield is better than you think. you'll see.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LOLwhat
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Date: September 28, 2013 03:50PM
football Wrote:
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> west Springfield is better than you think. you'll
> see.
...West Springfield lost to Edison. Both of those teams are atrocious. You're probably some little faggot who plays for WS and thinks he's the shit. You're not.
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> west Springfield is better than you think. you'll
> see.
...West Springfield lost to Edison. Both of those teams are atrocious. You're probably some little faggot who plays for WS and thinks he's the shit. You're not.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
herm
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Date: September 28, 2013 06:09PM
Former Westfield QB Mikey Glennon will be starting for the Tampa Bay Bucs against the Cardinals this Sunday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
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Date: September 28, 2013 08:36PM
LOLwhat Wrote:
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> football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > west Springfield is better than you think.
> you'll
> > see.
>
>
> ...West Springfield lost to Edison. Both of those
> teams are atrocious. You're probably some little
> faggot who plays for WS and thinks he's the shit.
> You're not.
you have no clue what your talking about I have been around high school football for 30 years now and I know potential just wait till next year the players will be more experienced with the offense and prove all you doubters wrong
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> football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > west Springfield is better than you think.
> you'll
> > see.
>
>
> ...West Springfield lost to Edison. Both of those
> teams are atrocious. You're probably some little
> faggot who plays for WS and thinks he's the shit.
> You're not.
you have no clue what your talking about I have been around high school football for 30 years now and I know potential just wait till next year the players will be more experienced with the offense and prove all you doubters wrong
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Glenn Fuhrman
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Date: September 28, 2013 10:27PM
I have been watching and coaching high school football for almost 50 years and I tell you the fastest player I ever saw was Rocky Belk. Even all these years later I haven't seen anyone who is faster......that nigger could really run!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Buddy Garrity
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Date: September 29, 2013 09:42AM
You should have seen Smash Williams, that guy could run and he could smash.
Then several of your schools could use Coach Eric Taylor. Looks like he may go to USC.
Then several of your schools could use Coach Eric Taylor. Looks like he may go to USC.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
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Date: September 29, 2013 08:37PM
West Springfield plays a school its own size and gets wiped. Yeah- that score was a lot closer than people thought- only because Centreville was trying their best NOT to score. SoCo game will just as futile. Don't worry WS you have Annandale and Woodson for possible wins. Too bad most of the talent at the school is walking the halls because of the coaches/admin. there.
13 playoff appearances since the 60's. Now that is a reason not to expect to do well. As the current principal has said, 'WS has never been a powerhouse in football'. Great excuse for continuing to suck. Pathetic.
13 playoff appearances since the 60's. Now that is a reason not to expect to do well. As the current principal has said, 'WS has never been a powerhouse in football'. Great excuse for continuing to suck. Pathetic.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Vulgar
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Date: September 30, 2013 08:52AM
Glenn Fuhrman Wrote:
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> I have been watching and coaching high school
> football for almost 50 years and I tell you the
> fastest player I ever saw was Rocky Belk. Even all
> these years later I haven't seen anyone who is
> faster......that nigger could really run!
You are obviously an uneducated, unathletic idiot for using derogatory terms on this site. Grow up
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> I have been watching and coaching high school
> football for almost 50 years and I tell you the
> fastest player I ever saw was Rocky Belk. Even all
> these years later I haven't seen anyone who is
> faster......that nigger could really run!
You are obviously an uneducated, unathletic idiot for using derogatory terms on this site. Grow up
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WOODSON DO SOMETHING
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Date: September 30, 2013 09:00AM
How long does a coach get to prove he can help these young men and win some games?? Its been 3 years now at Woodson and I think Dishun has won maybe 3 games out of 30??
Its time to start the exit with the old and bring in someone new.
HIRE Coach GAUL! or that other ocach that was coaching a few years back that the kids liked. Someone new , anyone with a heartbeat ...a trianed monkey
I want whats best for my son and for him to have an even chance of getting a scholarship to play sports. Im concerned it will never happen with this coaching staff. Thank yuo for all the time and hard work you have put in, but its time to move on to someone new.
Its time to start the exit with the old and bring in someone new.
HIRE Coach GAUL! or that other ocach that was coaching a few years back that the kids liked. Someone new , anyone with a heartbeat ...a trianed monkey
I want whats best for my son and for him to have an even chance of getting a scholarship to play sports. Im concerned it will never happen with this coaching staff. Thank yuo for all the time and hard work you have put in, but its time to move on to someone new.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
pussy riot II
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Date: September 30, 2013 12:42PM
yeah, vulgar, I've never seen derogatory names used on this site..................may you be jumped, robbed and beaten by a gang of niggers for being such a fag.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
pats1350294
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Date: September 30, 2013 12:44PM
How about all of the complaining pussies in the patriot district shut the fuck up and relax? Other then Lake Braddock, which is basically a concorde team, when have any of you ever been relevant in the northern region?
other then south county this year, west springfield when they had renner (really 1 year of relevance) and annandale in the 80's, the whole district has never been shit...so stop complaining about how woodson and lee need to win more games. Come to the Concorde where it matters if you want to complain about coaches.
and "spartanjoke"...you are the biggest pussy in the history of this site. go put on a whistle and coach if you dont like whats going on. your school sucks now, will suck tommorow and was only good for ONE SEASON with a D1 QB. What you do only hurts the kids, the community, coaches and parents.
other then south county this year, west springfield when they had renner (really 1 year of relevance) and annandale in the 80's, the whole district has never been shit...so stop complaining about how woodson and lee need to win more games. Come to the Concorde where it matters if you want to complain about coaches.
and "spartanjoke"...you are the biggest pussy in the history of this site. go put on a whistle and coach if you dont like whats going on. your school sucks now, will suck tommorow and was only good for ONE SEASON with a D1 QB. What you do only hurts the kids, the community, coaches and parents.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WHS
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Date: September 30, 2013 01:05PM
Can we talk about football please? Great! Thanks! Go Westfield!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: September 30, 2013 05:02PM
Here are the spreads for week 5. Game of the week is definitely Stone Bridge and Westfield.
Centreville (-35.0) @ Chantilly
My spreads for Centreville have been too low. Who will take the 35 points against a pretty good Chantilly? I think Centreville may be that good and Chantilly is the first team to really have their attention.
Falls Church (-7.5) @ Washington & Lee
Hayfield (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Jefferson @ Fairfax (-14.5)
Giving Fairfax a big spread here, but Jefferson is 3-1, TJ could really show something if they compete down the stretch with the Rebels.
Lake Braddock (-25.0) @ West Potomac
Who will take Braddock to cover the spread? This may be closer, but making you all work this week.
Langley (-42.0) @ Marshall
Lee @ Robinson (-31.0)
McLean (-3.5) @ Herndon
Mount Vernon @ Edison (-7.0)
Oakton (-14.5) @ Woodson
South County (-35.0) @ West Springfield
South Lakes @ Madison (-6.0)
Stone Bridge @ Westfield (-3.0) *unquestionably the game of the week
TC Williams (-28.0) @ Annandale
Yorktown (-40.0) @ Stuart
Centreville (-35.0) @ Chantilly
My spreads for Centreville have been too low. Who will take the 35 points against a pretty good Chantilly? I think Centreville may be that good and Chantilly is the first team to really have their attention.
Falls Church (-7.5) @ Washington & Lee
Hayfield (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Jefferson @ Fairfax (-14.5)
Giving Fairfax a big spread here, but Jefferson is 3-1, TJ could really show something if they compete down the stretch with the Rebels.
Lake Braddock (-25.0) @ West Potomac
Who will take Braddock to cover the spread? This may be closer, but making you all work this week.
Langley (-42.0) @ Marshall
Lee @ Robinson (-31.0)
McLean (-3.5) @ Herndon
Mount Vernon @ Edison (-7.0)
Oakton (-14.5) @ Woodson
South County (-35.0) @ West Springfield
South Lakes @ Madison (-6.0)
Stone Bridge @ Westfield (-3.0) *unquestionably the game of the week
TC Williams (-28.0) @ Annandale
Yorktown (-40.0) @ Stuart
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
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Date: September 30, 2013 05:19PM
I noticed Westfield did not use Devon Burns (#1) on kick and punt returns vs. Fairfax - it seems it is a 50/50 as to whether he will fumble it away or run it back for a TD. Wonder if it was a one game thing or permanent.
Also, anyone know if Tyler Thrasher-Walker (#22) will be playing on Friday - looked like he suffered a significant shoulder injury in the 3rd quarter of the Fairfax game.
Also, anyone know if Tyler Thrasher-Walker (#22) will be playing on Friday - looked like he suffered a significant shoulder injury in the 3rd quarter of the Fairfax game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Loudon Swain
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Date: September 30, 2013 06:14PM
Doesn't matter - Stone Bridge wins by two touchdowns.
Take South Lakes plus the 6. Langley and McLean cover easily.
Starting to get interesting....
Take South Lakes plus the 6. Langley and McLean cover easily.
Starting to get interesting....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Sky
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Date: September 30, 2013 08:25PM
I will say right now that soco will win by more that 35 pts
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Brent "the Jew" Musberger
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Date: September 30, 2013 08:30PM
Braddock and Centreville will win, but they won't cover those ridiculous spreads.........Jimmy the Greek you're not!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Will
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Date: September 30, 2013 08:31PM
Who has the top five scoring offenses in the region??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
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Date: September 30, 2013 09:52PM
I'm probably in the minority on this, but I would take the spreads on C'Ville and LB. I've been to every Cville game and watched highlights of almost every LB game, and they're by far the 2 best teams in the area. What Cville and Wfield were 2 years ago are Cville and LB this year. Mark my words, neither the will have a single-digit margin of victory until the 6A semi, which will be cville vs. LB.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tilly cville
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Date: September 30, 2013 11:11PM
Centreville avg 50.5 points agame, SOCO 49.75, Chantilly 41.25, Robinson 41.25 and lake braddock 40.75 unofficial but think that is it
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
majority
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Date: October 01, 2013 06:34AM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> I'm probably in the minority on this, but I would
> take the spreads on C'Ville and LB. I've been to
> every Cville game and watched highlights of almost
> every LB game, and they're by far the 2 best teams
> in the area. What Cville and Wfield were 2 years
> ago are Cville and LB this year. Mark my words,
> neither the will have a single-digit margin of
> victory until the 6A semi, which will be cville
> vs. LB.
You're not in the minority if you've watched cville play.
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> I'm probably in the minority on this, but I would
> take the spreads on C'Ville and LB. I've been to
> every Cville game and watched highlights of almost
> every LB game, and they're by far the 2 best teams
> in the area. What Cville and Wfield were 2 years
> ago are Cville and LB this year. Mark my words,
> neither the will have a single-digit margin of
> victory until the 6A semi, which will be cville
> vs. LB.
You're not in the minority if you've watched cville play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
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Date: October 01, 2013 07:05AM
Does anyone know of any major injuries on any of the top teams in the Northern Region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jess1
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Date: October 01, 2013 08:48AM
"Westfield did not use Devon Burns (#1) on kick and punt returns vs. Fairfax "
Was supposedly nursing a sore hand, but that's second hand info...
Was supposedly nursing a sore hand, but that's second hand info...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
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Date: October 01, 2013 08:51AM
I noticed that CVille's Turner had so few carries that he did not show up in the box score. He also did not have an interception which is an anomaly for him. Was he hurt or did the jv essentially play the game?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
AJ fine
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Date: October 01, 2013 09:51AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> I noticed that CVille's Turner had so few carries
> that he did not show up in the box score. He also
> did not have an interception which is an anomaly
> for him. Was he hurt or did the jv essentially
> play the game?
AJ is not hurt. He had one rushing TD and a long TD run called back due to penalty. It was just a bigger night for Tutt and Walter. No staters (O or D) played in the 2nd half.
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> I noticed that CVille's Turner had so few carries
> that he did not show up in the box score. He also
> did not have an interception which is an anomaly
> for him. Was he hurt or did the jv essentially
> play the game?
AJ is not hurt. He had one rushing TD and a long TD run called back due to penalty. It was just a bigger night for Tutt and Walter. No staters (O or D) played in the 2nd half.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nickens-Yzer
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Date: October 01, 2013 12:41PM
Talking about major injuries, What happened to Xavier Nickens-Yzer Cvilles other RB threat. This is the 2nd game in a row he didn't play? This was supposed to be his breakout year...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Johnny
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Date: October 01, 2013 01:29PM
Soco has been down to their 4th string tailback since their bye week
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
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Date: October 01, 2013 02:31PM
Nickens-Yzer Wrote:
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> Talking about major injuries, What happened to
> Xavier Nickens-Yzer Cvilles other RB threat. This
> is the 2nd game in a row he didn't play? This was
> supposed to be his breakout year...
He's been in a little bit of trouble and I think he was suspended for the first half of both games. I don't want to say what I've heard that he did, but I can assure you it wasn't anything to be worried about for the rest of the season.
When he is on the field, he plays mostly defense, though he does play wingback for some big plays. Chase Heiner has actually been playing well in his spot, and sometimes they'll spread it out a little bit. Xavier has played well on defense.
And AJ Turner has been just as explosive. He's scored about twice a game, they're just splitting carries up between him, Taylor Boose, and Heiner. "AJ fine" is completely right. The starters have not played past halftime. Starting this week, you'll see his name more.
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> Talking about major injuries, What happened to
> Xavier Nickens-Yzer Cvilles other RB threat. This
> is the 2nd game in a row he didn't play? This was
> supposed to be his breakout year...
He's been in a little bit of trouble and I think he was suspended for the first half of both games. I don't want to say what I've heard that he did, but I can assure you it wasn't anything to be worried about for the rest of the season.
When he is on the field, he plays mostly defense, though he does play wingback for some big plays. Chase Heiner has actually been playing well in his spot, and sometimes they'll spread it out a little bit. Xavier has played well on defense.
And AJ Turner has been just as explosive. He's scored about twice a game, they're just splitting carries up between him, Taylor Boose, and Heiner. "AJ fine" is completely right. The starters have not played past halftime. Starting this week, you'll see his name more.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostradumbass
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Date: October 01, 2013 04:42PM
Quote from "The Kicker"...
" Mark my words. Neither (Centreville and Lake Braddock) will have a single digit victory until they meet in the 6A semis."
Braddock 31 - Stone bridge 26
One short week later....
Braddock 28 - Westfield 24
( Note that these results have already happened.)
Don't quit your day job, Holmes.
" Mark my words. Neither (Centreville and Lake Braddock) will have a single digit victory until they meet in the 6A semis."
Braddock 31 - Stone bridge 26
One short week later....
Braddock 28 - Westfield 24
( Note that these results have already happened.)
Don't quit your day job, Holmes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
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Date: October 01, 2013 04:58PM
Also, LB and CVille would meet in the northern region finals since the two teams should be seeded one and two which would put them in separate brackets. That is a very long long time from now with a half of a season left and a very competitive playoff to be played out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Braden Quintyler
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Date: October 01, 2013 07:10PM
Lake Braddock will cover that spread, and hang a ton of points on west Potomac. They are the real deal, with weapons on offense and defense. I doubt WP won't score any points, but the offense at LB is lightning fast.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
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Date: October 01, 2013 07:15PM
I know, I know... Should have worded it better. Meant the rest of the way. I may be wrong about this later in the year, if LB isn't as good as I think they are(and correct me if I'm wrong but with their district schedule coming up, their schedule isn't nearly as hard) but that's what making bold predictions are about. And inquisitive one-it is a tough and long road to the Regional Championship (which with realignment is also the state semis) but I think both will survive. It all depends on the playoffs draw.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cornelius
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Date: October 02, 2013 11:25AM
Who will have the biggest win this Friday?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Mighty Rams
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Date: October 02, 2013 04:06PM
Robinson has a new "temporary" coach this year. The new temp coach will be proclaimed success (and thus the answer to the perceived failure of Taylor). This is a done deal. In fact, the outcome was predestined by the embarrassingly soft schedule the Rams play. The Rams scheduled three traditional Div 5 schools each with enrollments half of Robinson's. Toss in WTW and Herndon, and a minimum of five wins without breaking a sweat. Truly a no lose situation going into the season. Add to the mix a down year for Chantilly and Oakton, and the Rams would be 7-3 (at worst) under any coach. The really (and only) test will be the Westfield game. C'ville is a guaranteed loss, no shame in that. So, beat Westfield and it's a success... if not, the coaching change just bought time, not results.
Lake Braddock L, 38-22
W.T. Woodson W, 35-3
Mount Vernon W, 56-20
Herndon W, 38-0
Lee
Madison
Westfield
Oakton
Chantilly
Centreville
Lake Braddock L, 38-22
W.T. Woodson W, 35-3
Mount Vernon W, 56-20
Herndon W, 38-0
Lee
Madison
Westfield
Oakton
Chantilly
Centreville
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Charged Up
()
Date: October 03, 2013 10:08AM
The Mighty Rams
That is an extremely easy schedule out of district. The only point I disagree with you on, is this is not a down year for Chantilly. This is probably the strongest team they've had in the last 6 years. I know they are coming off a terrible performance, but they have great qb play, and threats all over the field. Their starting rb hasn't played the past few weeks because of injury. They'll be a dangerous team for sure. Now do I think they are near a Centreville? No. That team is ridiculous. It's really a done deal Centreville will win the region. All those thinking Lake Braddock has a shot against Centreville are kidding yourselves.
That is an extremely easy schedule out of district. The only point I disagree with you on, is this is not a down year for Chantilly. This is probably the strongest team they've had in the last 6 years. I know they are coming off a terrible performance, but they have great qb play, and threats all over the field. Their starting rb hasn't played the past few weeks because of injury. They'll be a dangerous team for sure. Now do I think they are near a Centreville? No. That team is ridiculous. It's really a done deal Centreville will win the region. All those thinking Lake Braddock has a shot against Centreville are kidding yourselves.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Geno
()
Date: October 03, 2013 09:44PM
Not a down year for chantilly? They lose to langley and beat soco only beause of a blown ref call on a 4 and 25
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
suprise
()
Date: October 03, 2013 10:34PM
Langley is really surprising me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Brian Schute
()
Date: October 03, 2013 10:55PM
Loudon Swain Wrote:
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> Doesn't matter - Stone Bridge wins by two
> touchdowns.
>
> Take South Lakes plus the 6. Langley and McLean
> cover easily.
>
> Starting to get interesting....
Think you'll make the weight?
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> Doesn't matter - Stone Bridge wins by two
> touchdowns.
>
> Take South Lakes plus the 6. Langley and McLean
> cover easily.
>
> Starting to get interesting....
Think you'll make the weight?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
L.S.
()
Date: October 03, 2013 11:51PM
" I don't know. I hope so."
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Charged Up
()
Date: October 04, 2013 12:27AM
Geno Wrote:
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> Not a down year for chantilly? They lose to
> langley and beat soco only beause of a blown ref
> call on a 4 and 25
South County is a very legit team, will finish 8-2 and give Lake Braddock a competitive contest. SOCO was an awesome win for Chantilly.
No doubt Chantilly got crushed by Langley, and shouldn't have; but Langley has their strongest team in years.
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> Not a down year for chantilly? They lose to
> langley and beat soco only beause of a blown ref
> call on a 4 and 25
South County is a very legit team, will finish 8-2 and give Lake Braddock a competitive contest. SOCO was an awesome win for Chantilly.
No doubt Chantilly got crushed by Langley, and shouldn't have; but Langley has their strongest team in years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HS FB
()
Date: October 04, 2013 08:55AM
Did I hear that Tommy Vance and Deandre Harris were out at the Chantilly game vs Langley. If so, are they back this week?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Purple Knight
()
Date: October 04, 2013 10:20AM
Both were out and will be back tonight.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 04, 2013 01:58PM
Purple Knight Wrote:
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> Both were out and will be back tonight.
The Stone Bridge @ Westfield and Centreville @ Chantilly games are about 5 miles apart - hmmm.... which game should I go to?
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> Both were out and will be back tonight.
The Stone Bridge @ Westfield and Centreville @ Chantilly games are about 5 miles apart - hmmm.... which game should I go to?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 04, 2013 02:18PM
Of the two, I think that Stone Bridge and Westfield is the best possibility for a down to the wire game that could go either way. CVille could blow out Chantilly or just as easily be up upset by the Chargers. Either way I think it will be a spread of 10 to 14.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hairnet honey
()
Date: October 04, 2013 02:31PM
I hope the bulldogs win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
()
Date: October 04, 2013 02:48PM
pats- That really hurts. The biggest one on the site? That's impressive. You cannot effect change at WS- they do not care. The AD is a clown and they hired themselves another winner of a head coach - who was ejected from the WS/Centreville JV game in which he was not even coaching. Real classy. I have tried to help but to no avail. Private school is looking good now. Glad to hear your opinion of stuff you know nothing about though. Mean alot.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 04, 2013 03:18PM
WS is not alone when egos become more important than managing and motivating a team. The only difference is that it appears that it is the AD at W Springfield that has an ego problem. I personally think that CVille would be a lot more successful in many of the secondary sports if there was more concern for the athletes' development and well being rather than growing their little fiefdoms and oversized egos.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BLOW Outs
()
Date: October 04, 2013 09:29PM
Westfield 23 Stone Bridge 0
Centreville 31 Chantilly 0
Wow....
Centreville 31 Chantilly 0
Wow....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Know nothing
()
Date: October 04, 2013 09:33PM
Any updates on the rest of the games?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
soco
()
Date: October 04, 2013 09:43PM
Soco up on West Springfield 37-3 in the 3rd Q
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
soco
()
Date: October 04, 2013 10:05PM
Soco 54
W Springfield 3
W Springfield 3
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Know nothing
()
Date: October 04, 2013 10:14PM
Wow another blow out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 04, 2013 10:32PM
Was LB piling on WePo tonight? In tweeter feeds I thought I saw them going for two pts. after touchdowns, late field goals and passing late in the game. Just seemed to be a bit much for a team that could have sent out their JV and won the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WTF????
()
Date: October 04, 2013 11:12PM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> Was LB piling on WePo tonight? In tweeter feeds I
> thought I saw them going for two pts. after
> touchdowns, late field goals and passing late in
> the game. Just seemed to be a bit much for a team
> that could have sent out their JV and won the
> game.
They piled on Annandale last week 68 - 0 and the piled on WePo 58 - 0. When you are ahead by 5 or 6 touchdowns, do you really need to keep piling on the scores? Hopefully, LB was playing the guys that normally are bench warmers, and not just trying to get Henderson's stats up for the recruiters.
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> Was LB piling on WePo tonight? In tweeter feeds I
> thought I saw them going for two pts. after
> touchdowns, late field goals and passing late in
> the game. Just seemed to be a bit much for a team
> that could have sent out their JV and won the
> game.
They piled on Annandale last week 68 - 0 and the piled on WePo 58 - 0. When you are ahead by 5 or 6 touchdowns, do you really need to keep piling on the scores? Hopefully, LB was playing the guys that normally are bench warmers, and not just trying to get Henderson's stats up for the recruiters.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: October 04, 2013 11:24PM
Three words: Centreville. Is. Legit. I mean, seriously. 42-0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mitch
()
Date: October 04, 2013 11:53PM
TC barley beat Annandale
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Az Murphy
()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:01AM
S/o to me
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
braddd
()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:07AM
centreville is scary good this year...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
18
()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:23AM
Chill who posted this?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordebacker
()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:51AM
WTF???? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Inquisitive One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was LB piling on WePo tonight? In tweeter feeds
> I
> > thought I saw them going for two pts. after
> > touchdowns, late field goals and passing late
> in
> > the game. Just seemed to be a bit much for a
> team
> > that could have sent out their JV and won the
> > game.
>
> They piled on Annandale last week 68 - 0 and the
> piled on WePo 58 - 0. When you are ahead by 5 or 6
> touchdowns, do you really need to keep piling on
> the scores? Hopefully, LB was playing the guys
> that normally are bench warmers, and not just
> trying to get Henderson's stats up for the
> recruiters.
Lake Braddock has no class! They promise kids if you come play for us you will have stats out of your ass. So when they get their patsy district schedule they pad stats by playing starters late and making it look like they are getting these completions when it mattered, not when they were up 50-0 against Annandale or Lee or Hayfield or West Potomac. Real football fans know the score.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Inquisitive One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was LB piling on WePo tonight? In tweeter feeds
> I
> > thought I saw them going for two pts. after
> > touchdowns, late field goals and passing late
> in
> > the game. Just seemed to be a bit much for a
> team
> > that could have sent out their JV and won the
> > game.
>
> They piled on Annandale last week 68 - 0 and the
> piled on WePo 58 - 0. When you are ahead by 5 or 6
> touchdowns, do you really need to keep piling on
> the scores? Hopefully, LB was playing the guys
> that normally are bench warmers, and not just
> trying to get Henderson's stats up for the
> recruiters.
Lake Braddock has no class! They promise kids if you come play for us you will have stats out of your ass. So when they get their patsy district schedule they pad stats by playing starters late and making it look like they are getting these completions when it mattered, not when they were up 50-0 against Annandale or Lee or Hayfield or West Potomac. Real football fans know the score.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ludwig
()
Date: October 05, 2013 01:14AM
Robinson over Lee 46-35
It was Robinson homecoming game.
It was Robinson homecoming game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bob villagroso
()
Date: October 05, 2013 07:19AM
Braddock had their 2nd and 3rd stringers in most of the 2nd half against Annandale and W. Potomac................were you even watching the game, you frickin retard?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 05, 2013 08:53AM
Is it me or does it seem there is a big dropoff between the top three, CVille, LB and Westfield and then the next level, i.e Chantilly, SoCo, Langley, TC, Robinson and another huge drop to the next level, WS, West Po, Lee.
I just don't think there will be a surprise team like Oakton again this year to the Northern final two teams.
I just don't think there will be a surprise team like Oakton again this year to the Northern final two teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tyler
()
Date: October 05, 2013 08:59AM
Is TC actually good or no
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 05, 2013 09:59AM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Is it me or does it seem there is a big dropoff
> between the top three, CVille, LB and Westfield
> and then the next level, i.e Chantilly, SoCo,
> Langley, TC, Robinson and another huge drop to the
> next level, WS, West Po, Lee.
>
>
> I just don't think there will be a surprise team
> like Oakton again this year to the Northern final
> two teams.
I'd agree with those rankings. The top teams last year, while the same 3, were no where near as dominant as this year. I would be very suprised if Centreville doesn't win it all, but shocked if a school other than those 3 does.
Anyway to the results. Bigger spreads made the picks a little more difficult this week.
Centreville (-35.0) @ Chantilly
My spreads for Centreville have been too low. Who will take the 35 points against a pretty good Chantilly? I think Centreville may be that good and Chantilly is the first team to really have their attention.
Falls Church (-7.5) @ Washington & Lee
Hayfield (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Jefferson @ Fairfax (-14.5)
Giving Fairfax a big spread here, but Jefferson is 3-1, TJ could really show something if they compete down the stretch with the Rebels.
Lake Braddock (-25.0) @ West Potomac
Lake Braddock won 58-0. People were saying them and Centreville wouldn't cover these spreads.
Langley (-42.0) @ Marshall
Langley won 56-13, spread was spot on!
Lee @ Robinson (-31.0)
Robinson won 56-35. Those that picked Lee won.
McLean (-3.5) @ Herndon
McLean won 42-27. Herndon is really going to struggle in the Concorde this year.
Mount Vernon @ Edison (-7.0)
Mount Vernon beat Edison 28-20
Oakton (-14.5) @ Woodson
Oakton beat Woodson 21-6. Awesome spread, watch out Vegas!
South County (-35.0) @ West Springfield
South County won 54-3. Spread covered. West Springfield has been outscored 117-3 their last two games.
South Lakes @ Madison (-6.0)
South Lakes won 36-27. Biggest win for the Seahawks in several years.
Stone Bridge @ Westfield (-3.0) *unquestionably the game of the week
Westfield won 30-6. Awesome win for them, win was by so much because of two extremely costly turnovers on kickoffs.
TC Williams (-28.0) @ Annandale
TC Williams won 20-14. Biggest head scratcher of the night. They beat Oakton by 36, beat a very strong Langley, and then struggle against Annandale...
Yorktown (-40.0) @ Stuart
Yorktown won 42-7
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is it me or does it seem there is a big dropoff
> between the top three, CVille, LB and Westfield
> and then the next level, i.e Chantilly, SoCo,
> Langley, TC, Robinson and another huge drop to the
> next level, WS, West Po, Lee.
>
>
> I just don't think there will be a surprise team
> like Oakton again this year to the Northern final
> two teams.
I'd agree with those rankings. The top teams last year, while the same 3, were no where near as dominant as this year. I would be very suprised if Centreville doesn't win it all, but shocked if a school other than those 3 does.
Anyway to the results. Bigger spreads made the picks a little more difficult this week.
Centreville (-35.0) @ Chantilly
My spreads for Centreville have been too low. Who will take the 35 points against a pretty good Chantilly? I think Centreville may be that good and Chantilly is the first team to really have their attention.
Falls Church (-7.5) @ Washington & Lee
Hayfield (-14.0) @ Wakefield
Jefferson @ Fairfax (-14.5)
Giving Fairfax a big spread here, but Jefferson is 3-1, TJ could really show something if they compete down the stretch with the Rebels.
Lake Braddock (-25.0) @ West Potomac
Lake Braddock won 58-0. People were saying them and Centreville wouldn't cover these spreads.
Langley (-42.0) @ Marshall
Langley won 56-13, spread was spot on!
Lee @ Robinson (-31.0)
Robinson won 56-35. Those that picked Lee won.
McLean (-3.5) @ Herndon
McLean won 42-27. Herndon is really going to struggle in the Concorde this year.
Mount Vernon @ Edison (-7.0)
Mount Vernon beat Edison 28-20
Oakton (-14.5) @ Woodson
Oakton beat Woodson 21-6. Awesome spread, watch out Vegas!
South County (-35.0) @ West Springfield
South County won 54-3. Spread covered. West Springfield has been outscored 117-3 their last two games.
South Lakes @ Madison (-6.0)
South Lakes won 36-27. Biggest win for the Seahawks in several years.
Stone Bridge @ Westfield (-3.0) *unquestionably the game of the week
Westfield won 30-6. Awesome win for them, win was by so much because of two extremely costly turnovers on kickoffs.
TC Williams (-28.0) @ Annandale
TC Williams won 20-14. Biggest head scratcher of the night. They beat Oakton by 36, beat a very strong Langley, and then struggle against Annandale...
Yorktown (-40.0) @ Stuart
Yorktown won 42-7
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Braden Quintyler
()
Date: October 05, 2013 11:46AM
I was wrong. I thought west potomac would put a score or two on the board. In fairness, west potomac's star athlete did not play, he was injured. But LB did hang a ton of points on that team.
For those not at the game, or the game last week, Braddock played 2nd and 3rd string guys for the second half of BOTH games. In addition, Braddock was not trying to pad stats as they ran a totally balanced offense in both games, depending heavily on the run in the second half. Henderson is a big part of this team but Braddock has a ton of weapons. O'Brien is an elusive, shifty running back that's hard to tackle because of his size and speed. Alexander, Antonellis, and Sica are 3 big, fast receivers. Their defense has (surprisingly) shut teams down and is playing with a ton of heart.
For those not at the game, or the game last week, Braddock played 2nd and 3rd string guys for the second half of BOTH games. In addition, Braddock was not trying to pad stats as they ran a totally balanced offense in both games, depending heavily on the run in the second half. Henderson is a big part of this team but Braddock has a ton of weapons. O'Brien is an elusive, shifty running back that's hard to tackle because of his size and speed. Alexander, Antonellis, and Sica are 3 big, fast receivers. Their defense has (surprisingly) shut teams down and is playing with a ton of heart.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wolverine Fan
()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:01PM
WP had a hand in their ass whipping.
Does that youth league D coordinator
have a brain? How about not sending
5 or 6 man blitz over and over
and Braddock would've run the ball!
Sorry thing is this community has
watched a regional program run into the
ground in 18 months. Only gonna get
worse too.
Does that youth league D coordinator
have a brain? How about not sending
5 or 6 man blitz over and over
and Braddock would've run the ball!
Sorry thing is this community has
watched a regional program run into the
ground in 18 months. Only gonna get
worse too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Liberty watcher
()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:05PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> South Lakes @ Madison (-6.0)
> South Lakes won 36-27. Biggest win for the
> Seahawks in several years.
>
Not really, Madison is just not very good at all this year. They are looking down the barrel of a 1-9 or 2-8 season.
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> South Lakes @ Madison (-6.0)
> South Lakes won 36-27. Biggest win for the
> Seahawks in several years.
>
Not really, Madison is just not very good at all this year. They are looking down the barrel of a 1-9 or 2-8 season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 05, 2013 01:30PM
Yea, you're right. I didn't realize Madison was that bad and winless. Looking at their schedule they'll beat Marshall; then McLean and TJ are toss ups. They will definitely lose to Robinson and Langley. I'd say they'll probably get 3 wins, but 2 wouldn't be a suprise.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The jokester
()
Date: October 05, 2013 05:01PM
You mean demorney high school
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dose of reality
()
Date: October 05, 2013 07:29PM
Oh, quit crying about West Potomac's coaches......every coach who goes through there gets pilloried because they "have all this talent"...... hey, have you ever tried coaching a bunch of dumb fucking niggers that can run, but are not very coachable, and bring their ghetto nigger attitude with them when they come to the field? This is what any coach has to deal with when they come here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Toilet Bowl
()
Date: October 05, 2013 08:02PM
Marshall vs. Stuart should be one of the more entertaining games of the season. I think Stuart will win, Marshall can pretty much guarantee back to back 0-10 seasons with a loss.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: October 05, 2013 09:32PM
Toilet Bowl Wrote:
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> Marshall vs. Stuart should be one of the more
> entertaining games of the season. I think Stuart
> will win, Marshall can pretty much guarantee back
> to back 0-10 seasons with a loss.
Marshall's already played in two toilet bowls...
Wakefield who went 0-10 last year in week 1 and lost. Still Wakefield's only win.
Then Freedom SR who gets destroyed by everyone and beat Marshall by 25, still Freedom's only win.
Stuart is really bad though, Marshall has a small shot.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Marshall vs. Stuart should be one of the more
> entertaining games of the season. I think Stuart
> will win, Marshall can pretty much guarantee back
> to back 0-10 seasons with a loss.
Marshall's already played in two toilet bowls...
Wakefield who went 0-10 last year in week 1 and lost. Still Wakefield's only win.
Then Freedom SR who gets destroyed by everyone and beat Marshall by 25, still Freedom's only win.
Stuart is really bad though, Marshall has a small shot.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 06, 2013 11:11AM
Here are next week's preliminary spreads. Westfield @ Centreville will be the game of the year. Can't wait for this Friday!
Westfield @ Centreville (-14.0)
Best game of the regular season. Be there! Both teams flexed their muscle this past Friday. Centreville beat a pretty good Chantilly team who to date was their toughest test 42-0. Unreal. It questions if anyone can compete with them. They have outscored their opponents 245-30.
Westfield is coming off giving Stone Bridge their worst Northern Region defeat ever. At the beginning of the season Coach Thompson said this was his best team ever at Stone Bridge, while most raised their eyebrows at the comment, still a monster win for Westfield beating the perenial power 30-6.
This is a rivalry game so you never know what will happen. The atmosphere will be electric. This is clearly 2 of the top 3 teams in the Northern Region. My feeling is Centreville is too much for everyone, but this is a great opportunity to see if Centreville is beatable and Westfield is one of two teams that may be able to.
Annandale @ Lee (-13.0)
Fairfax @ Langley (-10.0)
*This game will decide second in Liberty, should be a good one.
Hayfield @ Yorktown (-14.0)
Marshall @ Stuart (-8.5)
Both schools best remaining chance at a win.
Oakton @ Chantilly (-14.0)
Oakton sitting at 4-1 is about to be in for a rude awakening in Concorde play. This is a must win for Chantilly.
Robinson (-24.0) @ Madison
South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
South Lakes looks to beat TJ for the first time in 3 years, ouch.
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ McLean
Stone Bridge gets a cup cake district to get some of its pride back after losing to two D6 powers.
Woodson @ Braddock (-38.0)
Braddock has outscored their last two opponents 118-0. Spread might go up later in the week.
Wakefield @ Falls Church (-21.0)
Washington-Lee @ Mount Vernon (-14.0)
Mount Vernon has rebounded nicely from a rough start.
West Springfield @ West Potomac (-10.0)
West Po wins the award for biggest first half disappointment. People were talking about them maybe being a contender in the Patriot and they lose 55-0 to Lake Braddock.
South County (-21.0) @ TC Williams
Edison @ Herndon (-3.0)
Westfield @ Centreville (-14.0)
Best game of the regular season. Be there! Both teams flexed their muscle this past Friday. Centreville beat a pretty good Chantilly team who to date was their toughest test 42-0. Unreal. It questions if anyone can compete with them. They have outscored their opponents 245-30.
Westfield is coming off giving Stone Bridge their worst Northern Region defeat ever. At the beginning of the season Coach Thompson said this was his best team ever at Stone Bridge, while most raised their eyebrows at the comment, still a monster win for Westfield beating the perenial power 30-6.
This is a rivalry game so you never know what will happen. The atmosphere will be electric. This is clearly 2 of the top 3 teams in the Northern Region. My feeling is Centreville is too much for everyone, but this is a great opportunity to see if Centreville is beatable and Westfield is one of two teams that may be able to.
Annandale @ Lee (-13.0)
Fairfax @ Langley (-10.0)
*This game will decide second in Liberty, should be a good one.
Hayfield @ Yorktown (-14.0)
Marshall @ Stuart (-8.5)
Both schools best remaining chance at a win.
Oakton @ Chantilly (-14.0)
Oakton sitting at 4-1 is about to be in for a rude awakening in Concorde play. This is a must win for Chantilly.
Robinson (-24.0) @ Madison
South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
South Lakes looks to beat TJ for the first time in 3 years, ouch.
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ McLean
Stone Bridge gets a cup cake district to get some of its pride back after losing to two D6 powers.
Woodson @ Braddock (-38.0)
Braddock has outscored their last two opponents 118-0. Spread might go up later in the week.
Wakefield @ Falls Church (-21.0)
Washington-Lee @ Mount Vernon (-14.0)
Mount Vernon has rebounded nicely from a rough start.
West Springfield @ West Potomac (-10.0)
West Po wins the award for biggest first half disappointment. People were talking about them maybe being a contender in the Patriot and they lose 55-0 to Lake Braddock.
South County (-21.0) @ TC Williams
Edison @ Herndon (-3.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
good stuff
()
Date: October 06, 2013 11:25AM
Steve k2, love your weekly spreads and keen analysis of the northern region every week!
This is going to be a great week of football!
This is going to be a great week of football!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Briam
()
Date: October 06, 2013 02:37PM
The VHSL predictor predicted tc to beat soco
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hendosghost
()
Date: October 06, 2013 02:46PM
haha well when WP beat Chantilly in the playoffs and then put up 34 on the top Def (Westfield) in the state those f#### Nig####s as you put it (high school kids as I would say it) took coaching as well as anyone in this region.
But keep defending the losers in charge now as if all is the same.
Nothing makes your point as valid as getting to say the N word anonymously. :)
But keep defending the losers in charge now as if all is the same.
Nothing makes your point as valid as getting to say the N word anonymously. :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NRFfan
()
Date: October 06, 2013 05:27PM
which game is going to better Langley vs Fairfax or Oakton vs Chantilly?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 06, 2013 07:09PM
Just an exercise to provide food for thought. Because the Northern Region really has only three upper tier teams in the D6 division, the No. 1 seed of the tournament should have a fairly easy path to the state tournament. Keep in mind that the 2 participants of the Region finals qualify for the four team State tournament. For this reason, this week's game between Westfield and CVille should not only decide the Concorde District title but also determine if CVille has an opportunity to overtake Lake Braddock in the VHSL Power ratings and the No. 1 seed. A loss would essentially give the No. 1 seed to Lake Braddock because both CVille and Westfield would have one loss and LB should win out with a cream puff schedule to finish out the year. A win by CVille combined with winning out would probably give them the Power Rating edge because of the difficulty of the Concorde District schedule and the relatively easy Patriot District schedule. Keep in mind that Westfield and CVille would play in the semi finals of the Region playoff in one bracket and Lake Braddock would play the No. 4 seed in the other bracket if everything would play out as envisioned by the seeding system.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spreads
()
Date: October 06, 2013 09:47PM
Annandale @ Lee (17.0)
Lee looks to end 4 game losing streak.
Westfield @ Centreville (28.0)
Centreville looks to defeat Westfield in the regular season for the first time in over 5 years.
Oakton @ Chantilly (21.0)
Chantilly needs to bounce back strong against a weak Oakton squad.
Edison (7.0) @ Herndon
Edison's passing attack looks to flatten Herndon's homecoming hopes.
Fairfax @ Langley (8.0)
One of the underrated match ups this week. Look for a shootout between running backs.
Wakefield @ Falls Church (21.0)
Falls Church will get back on track against a weak Wakefield squad.
Hayfield @ Yorktown (21.0)
Hayfield is the biggest disappointment of the year. Will also be missing a 1st string wide receiver.
Woodson @ Lake Braddock (38.0)
Would make the spread more but Lake Braddock will probably take it easy have a lot of kids on display at homecoming.
Robinson (35.0) @ Madison
Joe Wilson scores at least 3 times against Madison, who looks like Robinson's JV.
Marshall @ Stuart (8.0)
2 terrible teams. Marshall is just a little bit worse however.
Stone Bridge (40.0) @ McLean
Stone Bridge looks to bounce back, will probably attack against McLean.
Washington-Lee @ Mount Vernon (9.0)
Mount Vernon tries to make it 3 straight in front of a Homecoming crowd.
South County @ TC Williams (5.0)
Upset alert.
South Lakes (12.0) @ Jefferson
Battle between two 3-2 teams.
West Springfield @ West Potomac (21.0)
The Demornay Pierson-El show.
Lee looks to end 4 game losing streak.
Westfield @ Centreville (28.0)
Centreville looks to defeat Westfield in the regular season for the first time in over 5 years.
Oakton @ Chantilly (21.0)
Chantilly needs to bounce back strong against a weak Oakton squad.
Edison (7.0) @ Herndon
Edison's passing attack looks to flatten Herndon's homecoming hopes.
Fairfax @ Langley (8.0)
One of the underrated match ups this week. Look for a shootout between running backs.
Wakefield @ Falls Church (21.0)
Falls Church will get back on track against a weak Wakefield squad.
Hayfield @ Yorktown (21.0)
Hayfield is the biggest disappointment of the year. Will also be missing a 1st string wide receiver.
Woodson @ Lake Braddock (38.0)
Would make the spread more but Lake Braddock will probably take it easy have a lot of kids on display at homecoming.
Robinson (35.0) @ Madison
Joe Wilson scores at least 3 times against Madison, who looks like Robinson's JV.
Marshall @ Stuart (8.0)
2 terrible teams. Marshall is just a little bit worse however.
Stone Bridge (40.0) @ McLean
Stone Bridge looks to bounce back, will probably attack against McLean.
Washington-Lee @ Mount Vernon (9.0)
Mount Vernon tries to make it 3 straight in front of a Homecoming crowd.
South County @ TC Williams (5.0)
Upset alert.
South Lakes (12.0) @ Jefferson
Battle between two 3-2 teams.
West Springfield @ West Potomac (21.0)
The Demornay Pierson-El show.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concordebacker
()
Date: October 06, 2013 11:00PM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> Just an exercise to provide food for thought.
> Because the Northern Region really has only three
> upper tier teams in the D6 division, the No. 1
> seed of the tournament should have a fairly easy
> path to the state tournament. Keep in mind that
> the 2 participants of the Region finals qualify
> for the four team State tournament. For this
> reason, this week's game between Westfield and
> CVille should not only decide the Concorde
> District title but also determine if CVille has an
> opportunity to overtake Lake Braddock in the VHSL
> Power ratings and the No. 1 seed. A loss would
> essentially give the No. 1 seed to Lake Braddock
> because both CVille and Westfield would have one
> loss and LB should win out with a cream puff
> schedule to finish out the year. A win by CVille
> combined with winning out would probably give them
> the Power Rating edge because of the difficulty of
> the Concorde District schedule and the relatively
> easy Patriot District schedule. Keep in mind that
> Westfield and CVille would play in the semi finals
> of the Region playoff in one bracket and Lake
> Braddock would play the No. 4 seed in the other
> bracket if everything would play out as envisioned
> by the seeding system.
Great post, EXCEPT, the North will send one team to Charlottesville for the State Championship. There will be 16 teams at the end of the regular season that will make the playoffs, they will be seeded 1-16 according to Power Points and play down to the North representative.
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> Just an exercise to provide food for thought.
> Because the Northern Region really has only three
> upper tier teams in the D6 division, the No. 1
> seed of the tournament should have a fairly easy
> path to the state tournament. Keep in mind that
> the 2 participants of the Region finals qualify
> for the four team State tournament. For this
> reason, this week's game between Westfield and
> CVille should not only decide the Concorde
> District title but also determine if CVille has an
> opportunity to overtake Lake Braddock in the VHSL
> Power ratings and the No. 1 seed. A loss would
> essentially give the No. 1 seed to Lake Braddock
> because both CVille and Westfield would have one
> loss and LB should win out with a cream puff
> schedule to finish out the year. A win by CVille
> combined with winning out would probably give them
> the Power Rating edge because of the difficulty of
> the Concorde District schedule and the relatively
> easy Patriot District schedule. Keep in mind that
> Westfield and CVille would play in the semi finals
> of the Region playoff in one bracket and Lake
> Braddock would play the No. 4 seed in the other
> bracket if everything would play out as envisioned
> by the seeding system.
Great post, EXCEPT, the North will send one team to Charlottesville for the State Championship. There will be 16 teams at the end of the regular season that will make the playoffs, they will be seeded 1-16 according to Power Points and play down to the North representative.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 02:31AM
That is what I thought earlier in the year but the current VHSL docs indicate that two from each region advance. Here is the link to the document describing the state tournament
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/tournament-format-football1.pdf
Let me know if I have there is an updated format.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/tournament-format-football1.pdf
Let me know if I have there is an updated format.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
trivia
()
Date: October 07, 2013 08:12AM
Spreads Wrote:
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>
> Westfield @ Centreville (28.0)
> Centreville looks to defeat Westfield in the
> regular season for the first time in over 5 years.
>
Actually (if I'm not mistaken) the only victory Centreville has in the regular season against Westfield was in 2000 when Westfield first opened up and they didn't have any seniors, which really doesn't count. The ONLY true victory Cville has agains Westfield was in 2011 Regional finals when a last second blocked field goal gave Cville the victory.
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>
> Westfield @ Centreville (28.0)
> Centreville looks to defeat Westfield in the
> regular season for the first time in over 5 years.
>
Actually (if I'm not mistaken) the only victory Centreville has in the regular season against Westfield was in 2000 when Westfield first opened up and they didn't have any seniors, which really doesn't count. The ONLY true victory Cville has agains Westfield was in 2011 Regional finals when a last second blocked field goal gave Cville the victory.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
interesting
()
Date: October 07, 2013 08:58AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> That is what I thought earlier in the year but the
> current VHSL docs indicate that two from each
> region advance. Here is the link to the document
> describing the state tournament
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/tournament-format-f
> ootball1.pdf
>
> Let me know if I have there is an updated format.
Wow, this is news as I thought the Regional finals would be at the high seed. This says (for 6A) Regional Finals (which can be viewed as state semi-finals) will be at UVa.
-------------------------------------------------------
> That is what I thought earlier in the year but the
> current VHSL docs indicate that two from each
> region advance. Here is the link to the document
> describing the state tournament
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/tournament-format-f
> ootball1.pdf
>
> Let me know if I have there is an updated format.
Wow, this is news as I thought the Regional finals would be at the high seed. This says (for 6A) Regional Finals (which can be viewed as state semi-finals) will be at UVa.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 09:24AM
No, I believe that the regional tournament will play out completely, ending with a Regional champ and a runner up. The state tournament will be similar to the soccer tournament in which the Northern runner up will play the Southern Region champ and the other game will be the Northern Region Champ will play the Southern Region runner up. The following weekend the winners of that game will face off for the state championship. Both weekends will be at Charlottesville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: October 07, 2013 10:01AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> No, I believe that the regional tournament will
> play out completely, ending with a Regional champ
> and a runner up. The state tournament will be
> similar to the soccer tournament in which the
> Northern runner up will play the Southern Region
> champ and the other game will be the Northern
> Region Champ will play the Southern Region runner
> up. The following weekend the winners of that
> game will face off for the state championship.
> Both weekends will be at Charlottesville.
So here's the playoff schedule:
Nov 15 - Regional Playoffs
Nov 22 - Regional Quarters
Nov 30 - Regional Semis
Dec 7th - Regional Finals
Dec 14th - State Finals
But according to: http://www.vhsl.org/athletics.football
VHSL state semis are Dec 7th, and State Finals are Dec 14th which would make the Regional Finals and the State Semi-finals the same game. Am I missing something here.
-------------------------------------------------------
> No, I believe that the regional tournament will
> play out completely, ending with a Regional champ
> and a runner up. The state tournament will be
> similar to the soccer tournament in which the
> Northern runner up will play the Southern Region
> champ and the other game will be the Northern
> Region Champ will play the Southern Region runner
> up. The following weekend the winners of that
> game will face off for the state championship.
> Both weekends will be at Charlottesville.
So here's the playoff schedule:
Nov 15 - Regional Playoffs
Nov 22 - Regional Quarters
Nov 30 - Regional Semis
Dec 7th - Regional Finals
Dec 14th - State Finals
But according to: http://www.vhsl.org/athletics.football
VHSL state semis are Dec 7th, and State Finals are Dec 14th which would make the Regional Finals and the State Semi-finals the same game. Am I missing something here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Watcher
()
Date: October 07, 2013 10:33AM
I believe that the top 2 teams from the north will not play each other, but will cross brackets and play the top 2 teams from the south. That will be the semi finals. The winner in those 2 games play each other for the state title.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 10:41AM
State tournament is north vs south in both semi final games. Agree.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 10:49AM
Correction. You may be right. Three weeks of regional playoffs would end up with the final two teams so the Regional finals would be considered the state semis with the winners of each region facing off for the title on the week of Dec. 14.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 07, 2013 10:58AM
trivia Wrote:
> Actually (if I'm not mistaken) the only victory
> Centreville has in the regular season against
> Westfield was in 2000 when Westfield first opened
> up and they didn't have any seniors, which really
> doesn't count. The ONLY true victory Cville has
> agains Westfield was in 2011 Regional finals when
> a last second blocked field goal gave Cville the
> victory.
a) you are correct. Westfield vs Centreville all-time:
2001: Centreville 10, Westfield 7
2002: Westfield 21, Centreville 14
2003: Westfield 38, Centreville 14
2004: Westfield 30, Centreville 21
2005: Westfield 34, Centreville 31
2006: Westfield 27, Centreville 7
2007: Westfield 33, Centreville 0
2008: Westfield 58, Centreville 40
2009: Westfield 24, Centreville 7
2010: Westfield 35, Centreville 14
2011: Westfield 13, Centreville 10
2001: Centreville 27, Westfield 24 (Northern Region Championship)
2012: Westfield 40, Centreville 21
b) That win in the NR game is slightly tainted in my mind. Westfield was hosed with some bad and/or marginally questionable calls that game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
See 3:47 as an example.
> Actually (if I'm not mistaken) the only victory
> Centreville has in the regular season against
> Westfield was in 2000 when Westfield first opened
> up and they didn't have any seniors, which really
> doesn't count. The ONLY true victory Cville has
> agains Westfield was in 2011 Regional finals when
> a last second blocked field goal gave Cville the
> victory.
a) you are correct. Westfield vs Centreville all-time:
2001: Centreville 10, Westfield 7
2002: Westfield 21, Centreville 14
2003: Westfield 38, Centreville 14
2004: Westfield 30, Centreville 21
2005: Westfield 34, Centreville 31
2006: Westfield 27, Centreville 7
2007: Westfield 33, Centreville 0
2008: Westfield 58, Centreville 40
2009: Westfield 24, Centreville 7
2010: Westfield 35, Centreville 14
2011: Westfield 13, Centreville 10
2001: Centreville 27, Westfield 24 (Northern Region Championship)
2012: Westfield 40, Centreville 21
b) That win in the NR game is slightly tainted in my mind. Westfield was hosed with some bad and/or marginally questionable calls that game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
See 3:47 as an example.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
purpledude
()
Date: October 07, 2013 12:49PM
Oakton will lose to Chantilly by at least 4 touchdowns. Their defense will haeve to play some real offensive players now: Sydnor, Smith and Harris. West Potomac, with only one good player, almost beat them at home.
Chantilly rights the ship at home this Friday.
Go Chargers!
Chantilly rights the ship at home this Friday.
Go Chargers!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Watcher
()
Date: October 07, 2013 01:38PM
The top 2 teams from the north will not play each other, No more regional champions
The top 2 teams from the north will cross brackets and play the other region in the semi finals.
Ex....if Centreville and Braddock are the top 2 teams in the north, they will not play each other, they will play the top 2 teams from the south. If both teams win, you could have a all north state championship game.
The top 2 teams from the north will cross brackets and play the other region in the semi finals.
Ex....if Centreville and Braddock are the top 2 teams in the north, they will not play each other, they will play the top 2 teams from the south. If both teams win, you could have a all north state championship game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
playoff expert
()
Date: October 07, 2013 02:00PM
Div 4A,5A, and 6A will not cross bracket and north plays north and south plays south !,2,and 3A will cross
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 02:42PM
Wow! Its hard to believe that the Northern Region would end a season with just a District champ and nothing more after all these years with regional champs for all sports. It is just too anti climatic. Oh well...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: October 07, 2013 02:42PM
So to be clear, we have no idea how it works yet and we'll have to wait until late November and Ddcember to see how it all plays out. My guess was like what "playoff expert" said it was. Whichever way is right, it will still be fun to watch.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 02:55PM
Don't count on an all northern region finals. Ocean Lakes is considered the national power from Virginia averages well over 50 per game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: October 07, 2013 02:57PM
playoff expert Wrote:
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> Div 4A,5A, and 6A will not cross bracket and north
> plays north and south plays south !,2,and 3A will
> cross
That's my take as well with respect to 6A, but the one surprise I had is the Regional Championships appears to be at UVa, not at the high seed.
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> Div 4A,5A, and 6A will not cross bracket and north
> plays north and south plays south !,2,and 3A will
> cross
That's my take as well with respect to 6A, but the one surprise I had is the Regional Championships appears to be at UVa, not at the high seed.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:26PM
Ignore all the awkward and bureaucratic wording and lack of clarity and lack of uniformity regarding terminology and definitions: in 6A there will be ONE team from 6A North and ONE team from 6A South facing off in the State Championship game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:34PM
I believe playoff expert is correct. Technically the two region champions will play eachother for the state championship, and I guess the region championships are considered state semifinals. Either way we will definitely have a region champion when all is said and done.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:42PM
That is my understanding too. The winner of the Northern Region will play the winner of the Southern Region at UVA. The question is where would the Northern Regional Championship be paid? Would the top seed get the home field for up to four home games?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:56PM
The problem is that they have only allocated 3 weeks for the 16 team playoff. That is what is making everything so confusing. Did they make a mistake because most of the other sports have an 8 team playoff? I cannot imagine them scheduling games more frequently than one a week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:59PM
They alloted 4 weeks. On the VHSL site, the State Semis would be the Regional Championship game.
The Regional semi-finals are played on Thanksgiving weekend.
The Regional semi-finals are played on Thanksgiving weekend.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cvillefan
()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:09PM
RydellRoad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> trivia Wrote:
> > Actually (if I'm not mistaken) the only victory
> > Centreville has in the regular season against
> > Westfield was in 2000 when Westfield first
> opened
> > up and they didn't have any seniors, which
> really
> > doesn't count. The ONLY true victory Cville
> has
> > agains Westfield was in 2011 Regional finals
> when
> > a last second blocked field goal gave Cville
> the
> > victory.
>
> a) you are correct. Westfield vs Centreville
> all-time:
> 2001: Centreville 10, Westfield 7
> 2002: Westfield 21, Centreville 14
> 2003: Westfield 38, Centreville 14
> 2004: Westfield 30, Centreville 21
> 2005: Westfield 34, Centreville 31
> 2006: Westfield 27, Centreville 7
> 2007: Westfield 33, Centreville 0
> 2008: Westfield 58, Centreville 40
> 2009: Westfield 24, Centreville 7
> 2010: Westfield 35, Centreville 14
> 2011: Westfield 13, Centreville 10
> 2001: Centreville 27, Westfield 24 (Northern
> Region Championship)
> 2012: Westfield 40, Centreville 21
>
> b) That win in the NR game is slightly tainted in
> my mind. Westfield was hosed with some bad and/or
> marginally questionable calls that game.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
>
> See 3:47 as an example.
I love the fact that Westfield fans cannot get over this game!! Centreville was the better team that year and won the Region. I believe it was still in their head the next year when they were the better team, BUT lost to Oakton on their home field AGAIN! OUCH!!!
No worries this year, Westfield will not be in the mix for the North Region Championship. Lake Braddock and Centreville are headed for a gigantic showdown on Thanksgiving weekend for the Championship.
-------------------------------------------------------
> trivia Wrote:
> > Actually (if I'm not mistaken) the only victory
> > Centreville has in the regular season against
> > Westfield was in 2000 when Westfield first
> opened
> > up and they didn't have any seniors, which
> really
> > doesn't count. The ONLY true victory Cville
> has
> > agains Westfield was in 2011 Regional finals
> when
> > a last second blocked field goal gave Cville
> the
> > victory.
>
> a) you are correct. Westfield vs Centreville
> all-time:
> 2001: Centreville 10, Westfield 7
> 2002: Westfield 21, Centreville 14
> 2003: Westfield 38, Centreville 14
> 2004: Westfield 30, Centreville 21
> 2005: Westfield 34, Centreville 31
> 2006: Westfield 27, Centreville 7
> 2007: Westfield 33, Centreville 0
> 2008: Westfield 58, Centreville 40
> 2009: Westfield 24, Centreville 7
> 2010: Westfield 35, Centreville 14
> 2011: Westfield 13, Centreville 10
> 2001: Centreville 27, Westfield 24 (Northern
> Region Championship)
> 2012: Westfield 40, Centreville 21
>
> b) That win in the NR game is slightly tainted in
> my mind. Westfield was hosed with some bad and/or
> marginally questionable calls that game.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
>
> See 3:47 as an example.
I love the fact that Westfield fans cannot get over this game!! Centreville was the better team that year and won the Region. I believe it was still in their head the next year when they were the better team, BUT lost to Oakton on their home field AGAIN! OUCH!!!
No worries this year, Westfield will not be in the mix for the North Region Championship. Lake Braddock and Centreville are headed for a gigantic showdown on Thanksgiving weekend for the Championship.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hoki
()
Date: October 08, 2013 01:58PM
> Don't count on an all northern region finals.
> Ocean Lakes is considered the national power from
> Virginia averages well over 50 per game.
I think you mean Oscar Smith...ranked #13 Nationally by USA Today with the #5 ranked recruit (UVa) in the country.
> Ocean Lakes is considered the national power from
> Virginia averages well over 50 per game.
I think you mean Oscar Smith...ranked #13 Nationally by USA Today with the #5 ranked recruit (UVa) in the country.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hoki
()
Date: October 08, 2013 02:18PM
> No worries this year, Westfield will not be in the
> mix for the North Region Championship. Lake
> Braddock and Centreville are headed for a gigantic
> showdown on Thanksgiving weekend for the
> Championship.
Actually with the new playoff format, Thanksgiving weekend 11/30 could be Westfield vs. Centreville rematch, with the winner of this Friday's game likely hosting. This assumes LB keeps the #1 power ranking. The winner of the WF vs. CV playoff game 11/30 prob facing LB 12/7 for Northern Championship (i.e. State Semi's). Winner of that game perhaps playing Oscar Smith in state title game 12/14 at UVa.
> mix for the North Region Championship. Lake
> Braddock and Centreville are headed for a gigantic
> showdown on Thanksgiving weekend for the
> Championship.
Actually with the new playoff format, Thanksgiving weekend 11/30 could be Westfield vs. Centreville rematch, with the winner of this Friday's game likely hosting. This assumes LB keeps the #1 power ranking. The winner of the WF vs. CV playoff game 11/30 prob facing LB 12/7 for Northern Championship (i.e. State Semi's). Winner of that game perhaps playing Oscar Smith in state title game 12/14 at UVa.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dr. PowerPoints
()
Date: October 08, 2013 02:34PM
The Kicker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So to be clear, we have no idea how it works yet
> and we'll have to wait until late November and
> Ddcember to see how it all plays out. My guess was
> like what "playoff expert" said it was. Whichever
> way is right, it will still be fun to watch.
No, YOU apparently have no idea how it works . . . those of us who have studied it know exactly how it will play out.
6A North and 6A South will each have a 16 team playoff based on power points. North is doing a basic 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc. after 4 rounds there will be a single 6A North "champion." 6A South is a little more complicated with two regional 8 team brackets but again after 4 rounds there will be a 6A South champion. These two teams (North and South champions) play each other for the state championship.
> Don't count on an all northern region finals.
As explained above there will never be an all northern region finals - the state final is 6A South champion vs the 6A North champion. Also there is no longer a northern region - there is 6A North and South (the four region setup (which included the northern region) no longer exists).
-------------------------------------------------------
> So to be clear, we have no idea how it works yet
> and we'll have to wait until late November and
> Ddcember to see how it all plays out. My guess was
> like what "playoff expert" said it was. Whichever
> way is right, it will still be fun to watch.
No, YOU apparently have no idea how it works . . . those of us who have studied it know exactly how it will play out.
6A North and 6A South will each have a 16 team playoff based on power points. North is doing a basic 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc. after 4 rounds there will be a single 6A North "champion." 6A South is a little more complicated with two regional 8 team brackets but again after 4 rounds there will be a 6A South champion. These two teams (North and South champions) play each other for the state championship.
> Don't count on an all northern region finals.
As explained above there will never be an all northern region finals - the state final is 6A South champion vs the 6A North champion. Also there is no longer a northern region - there is 6A North and South (the four region setup (which included the northern region) no longer exists).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: October 08, 2013 03:11PM
Hoki Wrote:
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> > No worries this year, Westfield will not be in
> the
> > mix for the North Region Championship. Lake
> > Braddock and Centreville are headed for a
> gigantic
> > showdown on Thanksgiving weekend for the
> > Championship.
>
> Actually with the new playoff format, Thanksgiving
> weekend 11/30 could be Westfield vs. Centreville
> rematch, with the winner of this Friday's game
> likely hosting. This assumes LB keeps the #1
> power ranking. The winner of the WF vs. CV playoff
> game 11/30 prob facing LB 12/7 for Northern
> Championship (i.e. State Semi's). Winner of that
> game perhaps playing Oscar Smith in state title
> game 12/14 at UVa.
That is correct except if Cville wins Friday night, they should go ahead of Lake Braddock in Power Points which means it will be most likely a rematch of Lake Braddock/Westfield at Thanksgiving.
-------------------------------------------------------
> > No worries this year, Westfield will not be in
> the
> > mix for the North Region Championship. Lake
> > Braddock and Centreville are headed for a
> gigantic
> > showdown on Thanksgiving weekend for the
> > Championship.
>
> Actually with the new playoff format, Thanksgiving
> weekend 11/30 could be Westfield vs. Centreville
> rematch, with the winner of this Friday's game
> likely hosting. This assumes LB keeps the #1
> power ranking. The winner of the WF vs. CV playoff
> game 11/30 prob facing LB 12/7 for Northern
> Championship (i.e. State Semi's). Winner of that
> game perhaps playing Oscar Smith in state title
> game 12/14 at UVa.
That is correct except if Cville wins Friday night, they should go ahead of Lake Braddock in Power Points which means it will be most likely a rematch of Lake Braddock/Westfield at Thanksgiving.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 08, 2013 04:16PM
Actually it would be the winner of the Lake Braddock/Westfield that would face CVille in the Regional finals. That is IF CVille wins Friday and the Regional tournament plays out in accordance with the seeding. I learned a lot about this garbage watching volleyball tournaments and the constant bracket watching that takes place there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 08, 2013 04:42PM
To clear everything up about the playoffs, essentially in the North and South you will have a playoff of 16 teams using a seeded tournament format. The state semi finals will be the regional finals of the north and south teams and the only game involving the north and south will be the two regional champions. If this is not right let me know.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 08, 2013 04:55PM
Cvillefan Wrote:
> Centreville was the better team
> that year and won the Region.
I don't think anyone who watched both 2011 Centreville-Westfield games would think it was so clear-cut that Centreville was the "better" team. Those two games were some of the best HS football I've seen played and the end result was 1-1 and 37-37 score after 8 quarters and an overtime.
> Centreville was the better team
> that year and won the Region.
I don't think anyone who watched both 2011 Centreville-Westfield games would think it was so clear-cut that Centreville was the "better" team. Those two games were some of the best HS football I've seen played and the end result was 1-1 and 37-37 score after 8 quarters and an overtime.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 08, 2013 06:29PM
It was a really great high school game between two evenly matched teams. This year's games could be just as good.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 08, 2013 09:08PM
Here is the article from the post. Am I misunderstanding this or did we basically go from 4 Regions to 3?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/new-virginia-high-school-football-playoff-breakdown/2013/10/08/9fbf1a6a-3043-11e3-9ccc-2252bdb14df5_story.html
North, South(South) and South(Central)
WTF???
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/new-virginia-high-school-football-playoff-breakdown/2013/10/08/9fbf1a6a-3043-11e3-9ccc-2252bdb14df5_story.html
North, South(South) and South(Central)
WTF???
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WeDoFootball
()
Date: October 08, 2013 10:18PM
Does anyone know the current power points standings?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
loko
()
Date: October 08, 2013 11:28PM
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: October 09, 2013 06:46AM
Football Fever Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here is the article from the post. Am I
> misunderstanding this or did we basically go from
> 4 Regions to 3?
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/n
> ew-virginia-high-school-football-playoff-breakdown
> /2013/10/08/9fbf1a6a-3043-11e3-9ccc-2252bdb14df5_s
> tory.html
>
> North, South(South) and South(Central)
>
> WTF???
We went from 4 regions to 2 regions.
Regions for 4A, 5A, and 6A - North and South
Regions for 1A, 2A, 3A - East and West
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here is the article from the post. Am I
> misunderstanding this or did we basically go from
> 4 Regions to 3?
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/n
> ew-virginia-high-school-football-playoff-breakdown
> /2013/10/08/9fbf1a6a-3043-11e3-9ccc-2252bdb14df5_s
> tory.html
>
> North, South(South) and South(Central)
>
> WTF???
We went from 4 regions to 2 regions.
Regions for 4A, 5A, and 6A - North and South
Regions for 1A, 2A, 3A - East and West
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hoki
()
Date: October 09, 2013 07:52AM
WeDoFootball Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the current power points
> standings?
Straight from the Horse's mouth:
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-top-20-ratings8.pdf
-------------------------------------------------------
> Does anyone know the current power points
> standings?
Straight from the Horse's mouth:
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-top-20-ratings8.pdf
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 09, 2013 08:11AM
Thats what is says in the document but based on what I read, it looks like there is a South (Central) regional champion playing a South (South) Regional Champion which will play the North Regional Champion.
To me, they still have a sub- Regional Champion or they could state they are the 'Central' Regional Champion.
It just seems like VHSL has not made it clear what they are doing and things are still similar in many ways
To me, they still have a sub- Regional Champion or they could state they are the 'Central' Regional Champion.
It just seems like VHSL has not made it clear what they are doing and things are still similar in many ways
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hoki
()
Date: October 09, 2013 08:13AM
RydellRoad Wrote:
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> Cvillefan Wrote:
> > Centreville was the better team
> > that year and won the Region.
>
> I don't think anyone who watched both 2011
> Centreville-Westfield games would think it was so
> clear-cut that Centreville was the "better" team.
> Those two games were some of the best HS football
> I've seen played and the end result was 1-1 and
> 37-37 score after 8 quarters and an overtime.
I agree...I have been to a lot of HS, College, and NFL games in my life, and the 2011 No Region final CV vs. WF was one of the best games I've even seen at any level.
The regular season game that WF won in OT...recall that WF recovered a CV fumble in OT to win the game after kicking a FG in their first OT possession. Except....the refs blew the call, his knee was down first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42CMZOY-OxA
Of course CV got revenge in the No Reg. final...and yes a couple bad calls against WF during the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
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> Cvillefan Wrote:
> > Centreville was the better team
> > that year and won the Region.
>
> I don't think anyone who watched both 2011
> Centreville-Westfield games would think it was so
> clear-cut that Centreville was the "better" team.
> Those two games were some of the best HS football
> I've seen played and the end result was 1-1 and
> 37-37 score after 8 quarters and an overtime.
I agree...I have been to a lot of HS, College, and NFL games in my life, and the 2011 No Region final CV vs. WF was one of the best games I've even seen at any level.
The regular season game that WF won in OT...recall that WF recovered a CV fumble in OT to win the game after kicking a FG in their first OT possession. Except....the refs blew the call, his knee was down first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42CMZOY-OxA
Of course CV got revenge in the No Reg. final...and yes a couple bad calls against WF during the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hoki
()
Date: October 09, 2013 08:17AM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> Thats what is says in the document but based on
> what I read, it looks like there is a South
> (Central) regional champion playing a South
> (South) Regional Champion which will play the
> North Regional Champion.
>
> To me, they still have a sub- Regional Champion or
> they could state they are the 'Central' Regional
> Champion.
>
> It just seems like VHSL has not made it clear what
> they are doing and things are still similar in
> many ways
I also saw that on the VHSL web site...I attribute it to the web site not being updated with the new playoff format. In the past they had annually rotated the 4 region winners who-plays-who in the semi's. I think they just haven't got around to removing that info.
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> Thats what is says in the document but based on
> what I read, it looks like there is a South
> (Central) regional champion playing a South
> (South) Regional Champion which will play the
> North Regional Champion.
>
> To me, they still have a sub- Regional Champion or
> they could state they are the 'Central' Regional
> Champion.
>
> It just seems like VHSL has not made it clear what
> they are doing and things are still similar in
> many ways
I also saw that on the VHSL web site...I attribute it to the web site not being updated with the new playoff format. In the past they had annually rotated the 4 region winners who-plays-who in the semi's. I think they just haven't got around to removing that info.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dr. PowerPoints
()
Date: October 09, 2013 09:37AM
Hoki Wrote:
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> Football Fever Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thats what is says in the document but based on
> > what I read, it looks like there is a South
> > (Central) regional champion playing a South
> > (South) Regional Champion which will play the
> > North Regional Champion.
> > . . .
Here is a detailed explanation of the playoff format for 6A from VA Preps
Regions: 6A North and 6A South
How the playoffs will work in the North: The top 16 teams by power points from the North will be placed in a 16-team traditional bracket (1 v 16, 2 v 15, etc...) that will play down until there is one team standing. There will be no re-seeding along the way.
How the playoffs will work in the South: The top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 1 and 2 will advance to the postseason along with the top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 3 and 4.
The eight teams from Conferences 1 and 2 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing.
The eight teams from Conferences 3 and 4 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing.
The four teams remaining in the South (two from the Conference 1 and 2 bracket and two from the Conference 3 and 4 bracket) will then be re-seeded 1 through 4 based on their regular season power points. #1 will host #4 and #2 will host #3.
Final Four: In the North, the two teams left standing from the traditional 16-team bracket will play each other for a regional title and the right to go to the state championship game.
In the South, the two winners from the re-seeded 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 games will meet in a regional final and the right to go to the state championship game.
State championship: The lone survivor from the North will play the lone survivor from the South.
End of Quote
Please note that there is not official VHSL designation of "sub-region" The South "made this up" by "combining" conferences. I assume they did this to preserve traditional rivalries and/or to reduce transportation costs.
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> Football Fever Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thats what is says in the document but based on
> > what I read, it looks like there is a South
> > (Central) regional champion playing a South
> > (South) Regional Champion which will play the
> > North Regional Champion.
> > . . .
Here is a detailed explanation of the playoff format for 6A from VA Preps
Regions: 6A North and 6A South
How the playoffs will work in the North: The top 16 teams by power points from the North will be placed in a 16-team traditional bracket (1 v 16, 2 v 15, etc...) that will play down until there is one team standing. There will be no re-seeding along the way.
How the playoffs will work in the South: The top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 1 and 2 will advance to the postseason along with the top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 3 and 4.
The eight teams from Conferences 1 and 2 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing.
The eight teams from Conferences 3 and 4 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing.
The four teams remaining in the South (two from the Conference 1 and 2 bracket and two from the Conference 3 and 4 bracket) will then be re-seeded 1 through 4 based on their regular season power points. #1 will host #4 and #2 will host #3.
Final Four: In the North, the two teams left standing from the traditional 16-team bracket will play each other for a regional title and the right to go to the state championship game.
In the South, the two winners from the re-seeded 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 games will meet in a regional final and the right to go to the state championship game.
State championship: The lone survivor from the North will play the lone survivor from the South.
End of Quote
Please note that there is not official VHSL designation of "sub-region" The South "made this up" by "combining" conferences. I assume they did this to preserve traditional rivalries and/or to reduce transportation costs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 09, 2013 03:55PM
Does any other state have such a convoluted playoff system? I'm only familiar with a few other states but they are a little more straight-forward. I don't think VHSL has done a good job of explaining the new system. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many questions about it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interest
()
Date: October 09, 2013 09:11PM
What are y'all's predictions for this Friday/Saturday?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bruce
()
Date: October 09, 2013 10:18PM
There are only 3-4 teams that have a realistic chance of Winning the region
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really??
()
Date: October 09, 2013 10:34PM
Who can compete with centerville??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: October 09, 2013 11:10PM
Westfield vs Centreville
> all-time:
> 2001: Centreville 10, Westfield 7
> 2002: Westfield 21, Centreville 14
> 2003: Westfield 38, Centreville 14
> 2004: Westfield 30, Centreville 21
> 2005: Westfield 34, Centreville 31
> 2006: Westfield 27, Centreville 7
> 2007: Westfield 33, Centreville 0
> 2008: Westfield 58, Centreville 40
> 2009: Westfield 24, Centreville 7
> 2010: Westfield 35, Centreville 14
> 2011: Westfield 13, Centreville 10
> 2011: Centreville 27, Westfield 24 (Northern
> Region Championship)
> 2012: Westfield 40, Centreville 21
Game 14 of the series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sp4t-VxG6A&feature=youtu.be
> all-time:
> 2001: Centreville 10, Westfield 7
> 2002: Westfield 21, Centreville 14
> 2003: Westfield 38, Centreville 14
> 2004: Westfield 30, Centreville 21
> 2005: Westfield 34, Centreville 31
> 2006: Westfield 27, Centreville 7
> 2007: Westfield 33, Centreville 0
> 2008: Westfield 58, Centreville 40
> 2009: Westfield 24, Centreville 7
> 2010: Westfield 35, Centreville 14
> 2011: Westfield 13, Centreville 10
> 2011: Centreville 27, Westfield 24 (Northern
> Region Championship)
> 2012: Westfield 40, Centreville 21
Game 14 of the series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sp4t-VxG6A&feature=youtu.be
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Reddit
()
Date: October 10, 2013 01:43PM
Those of you who subscribe to Reddit I have something for you, a brand new page called r/NoVaFootball. Still in it's infancy but very much available for people to come check out, we have already started construction of the page and are making a lot of changes. Here is the link for those that want to check it out!
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoVaFootball
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoVaFootball
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Blackout
()
Date: October 10, 2013 09:41PM
Anyone headed out to the Langley-Fairfax game tmrw? It should be a good match up seeing who can come out as the second best in the Liberty District. High chance of rain so bring your jackets.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Curious6666666
()
Date: October 11, 2013 12:52PM
Is the Centreville Westfield game cancelled due to weather?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 11, 2013 01:18PM
Nope they're on a turf field. No cancellations yet.
Oakton @ Chantilly is confirmed for tonight
Fairfax @ Langley is confirmed for tonight
South Lakes @ TJ has been moved to Fairfax but will be played tonight
May damper the atmosphere some, but get your rain gear ready and enjoy a hell of a game tonight between Westfield and Centreville!
PG county has moved all their games to Monday which is Columbus Day, it wouldn't suprise me if some other games get moved to Monday, but we'll see shortly.
Oakton @ Chantilly is confirmed for tonight
Fairfax @ Langley is confirmed for tonight
South Lakes @ TJ has been moved to Fairfax but will be played tonight
May damper the atmosphere some, but get your rain gear ready and enjoy a hell of a game tonight between Westfield and Centreville!
PG county has moved all their games to Monday which is Columbus Day, it wouldn't suprise me if some other games get moved to Monday, but we'll see shortly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Raindance
()
Date: October 11, 2013 02:03PM
West Springfield @ West Potomac postponed to Monday @ 6 p.m.
Next year this won't be an issue.
Next year this won't be an issue.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
knownothing
()
Date: October 11, 2013 05:52PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Nope they're on a turf field. No cancellations
> yet.
>
> Oakton @ Chantilly is confirmed for tonight
> Fairfax @ Langley is confirmed for tonight
> South Lakes @ TJ has been moved to Fairfax but
> will be played tonight
>
> May damper the atmosphere some, but get your rain
> gear ready and enjoy a hell of a game tonight
> between Westfield and Centreville!
>
> PG county has moved all their games to Monday
> which is Columbus Day, it wouldn't suprise me if
> some other games get moved to Monday, but we'll
> see shortly.
Money well spent on the turf fields- Game on! Get your raincoats and umbrellas.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nope they're on a turf field. No cancellations
> yet.
>
> Oakton @ Chantilly is confirmed for tonight
> Fairfax @ Langley is confirmed for tonight
> South Lakes @ TJ has been moved to Fairfax but
> will be played tonight
>
> May damper the atmosphere some, but get your rain
> gear ready and enjoy a hell of a game tonight
> between Westfield and Centreville!
>
> PG county has moved all their games to Monday
> which is Columbus Day, it wouldn't suprise me if
> some other games get moved to Monday, but we'll
> see shortly.
Money well spent on the turf fields- Game on! Get your raincoats and umbrellas.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wat
()
Date: October 11, 2013 06:12PM
as posted on the centreville highschool website
The football game against Westfield HS tonight will be played on time. It will not be postponed due to inclement weather. Outside drinks are not admitted into the stadium.
The football game against Westfield HS tonight will be played on time. It will not be postponed due to inclement weather. Outside drinks are not admitted into the stadium.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NovaBall
()
Date: October 11, 2013 10:16PM
Langley Saxons beat Fairfax 28-7. I'm stunned, fairfax is not who we thought they were and Langley is looking to be a dark horse contender come playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 11, 2013 10:39PM
I am a believer. Centreville 28 Westfield 0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 11, 2013 11:24PM
Great Friday night of prediction. 3 spreads were spot on, 5 within 2 points of the predicted margin, 10 of 11 spreads covered, and 11 of 11 games picked correctly.
Westfield @ Centreville (-14.0)
Centreville covers the spread 28-0. It’s Centreville’s region.
Annandale @ Lee (-13.0)
Lee covers spread 35-20
Fairfax @ Langley (-10.0)
Langley covers the spread 28-7. With wins against Chantilly and Yorktown, and a nail biter against Stone Bridge, this team is a very solid one.
Hayfield @ Yorktown (-14.0)
Yorktown wins 19-14, Hayfield with a real good performance and first spread not covered.
Marshall @ Stuart (-8.5)
Stuart covers the spread 33-13. With double digit losses to Wakefield, Freedom SR, and Stuart; all of which Marshall is their only win, looks like Marshall is in the cellar this year. They do have some young talent though. It will get better in the future but next up Stone Bridge and a consecutive 0-10 season.
Oakton @ Chantilly (-14.0)
Chantilly nails the spread with a 21-7 win, big win for the Chargers, back to reality for the Cougars. Next up for Oakton… Centreville
Robinson (-24.0) @ Madison
Robinson covers the spread 39-0.
South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
South Lakes covers the spread 23-15. Not great for a school their size, but South Lakes is having one of their more respectable football seasons in years!
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ McLean
Stone Bridge nails the spread 35-7; getting pretty good at these things.
Woodson @ Braddock (-38.0)
Lake Braddock covers the spread 50-0 in a rain shortened game. Lake Braddock has now outscored their opponents 176-0 in the last 3 games. Still don’t think they will be able to hang with Centreville though.
Wakefield @ Falls Church (-21.0)
Falls Church nails the spread 37-16.
Washington-Lee @ Mount Vernon (-14.0)
PPD
West Springfield @ West Potomac (-10.0)
PPD
Westfield @ Centreville (-14.0)
Centreville covers the spread 28-0. It’s Centreville’s region.
Annandale @ Lee (-13.0)
Lee covers spread 35-20
Fairfax @ Langley (-10.0)
Langley covers the spread 28-7. With wins against Chantilly and Yorktown, and a nail biter against Stone Bridge, this team is a very solid one.
Hayfield @ Yorktown (-14.0)
Yorktown wins 19-14, Hayfield with a real good performance and first spread not covered.
Marshall @ Stuart (-8.5)
Stuart covers the spread 33-13. With double digit losses to Wakefield, Freedom SR, and Stuart; all of which Marshall is their only win, looks like Marshall is in the cellar this year. They do have some young talent though. It will get better in the future but next up Stone Bridge and a consecutive 0-10 season.
Oakton @ Chantilly (-14.0)
Chantilly nails the spread with a 21-7 win, big win for the Chargers, back to reality for the Cougars. Next up for Oakton… Centreville
Robinson (-24.0) @ Madison
Robinson covers the spread 39-0.
South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
South Lakes covers the spread 23-15. Not great for a school their size, but South Lakes is having one of their more respectable football seasons in years!
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ McLean
Stone Bridge nails the spread 35-7; getting pretty good at these things.
Woodson @ Braddock (-38.0)
Lake Braddock covers the spread 50-0 in a rain shortened game. Lake Braddock has now outscored their opponents 176-0 in the last 3 games. Still don’t think they will be able to hang with Centreville though.
Wakefield @ Falls Church (-21.0)
Falls Church nails the spread 37-16.
Washington-Lee @ Mount Vernon (-14.0)
PPD
West Springfield @ West Potomac (-10.0)
PPD
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tevin
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:20AM
There are only two teams with a "realistic" chance of beating centerville I believe lb ( not sure how they migh compete) ande soco (if they can outscore them almost impossible but 2nd best bet)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr Greek
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:50AM
10 of 11 games covered?
WTF? The spread is not something to be "covered"; it's supposed to be the difference in the score between the two teams. Whether a team "covers" or doesnt coveris a completely separate issue than of the spread itself. The real question is how far off the spread was from the actual difference in the game. For example, if the spread on Team A and Team B is -4, and Team A wins by 24, then that is not a good spread!
WTF? The spread is not something to be "covered"; it's supposed to be the difference in the score between the two teams. Whether a team "covers" or doesnt coveris a completely separate issue than of the spread itself. The real question is how far off the spread was from the actual difference in the game. For example, if the spread on Team A and Team B is -4, and Team A wins by 24, then that is not a good spread!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: October 12, 2013 11:15AM
Tevin Wrote:
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> There are only two teams with a "realistic" chance
> of beating centerville I believe lb ( not sure how
> they migh compete) ande soco (if they can outscore
> them almost impossible but 2nd best bet)
Regardless, most of the spreads were pretty spot on.
Any way to this post. Lake Braddock may have a semi-shot as they have some great offensive fire power. I just go back to the fact that they barely beat Westfield and then look at what Centreville did to Westfield last night. I will say without the rain, maybe Westfield could have thrown the ball better and the game would have been a little closer, but counter to that argument, Centreville probably would have scored more too. So I'll give you that Lake Braddock has a shot, because they can score in a shootout, and although Centreville is giving up 5 points a game, they've seen nothing like Braddock's offensive attack. I don't think it's a very good shot though.
With SoCo, no way they hang with Centreville. Their defense is terrible, Centreville will score every possession. They may hit on a few big plays, but I don't like their passing attack nearly as much as Lake Braddock's. SoCo will get destroyed against Braddock in a couple weeks, and if they ever played Centreville would get destroyed too. Looking at like opponents again, SoCo lost to Chantilly, who Centreville beat 42-0.
-------------------------------------------------------
> There are only two teams with a "realistic" chance
> of beating centerville I believe lb ( not sure how
> they migh compete) ande soco (if they can outscore
> them almost impossible but 2nd best bet)
Regardless, most of the spreads were pretty spot on.
Any way to this post. Lake Braddock may have a semi-shot as they have some great offensive fire power. I just go back to the fact that they barely beat Westfield and then look at what Centreville did to Westfield last night. I will say without the rain, maybe Westfield could have thrown the ball better and the game would have been a little closer, but counter to that argument, Centreville probably would have scored more too. So I'll give you that Lake Braddock has a shot, because they can score in a shootout, and although Centreville is giving up 5 points a game, they've seen nothing like Braddock's offensive attack. I don't think it's a very good shot though.
With SoCo, no way they hang with Centreville. Their defense is terrible, Centreville will score every possession. They may hit on a few big plays, but I don't like their passing attack nearly as much as Lake Braddock's. SoCo will get destroyed against Braddock in a couple weeks, and if they ever played Centreville would get destroyed too. Looking at like opponents again, SoCo lost to Chantilly, who Centreville beat 42-0.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheFuture
()
Date: October 12, 2013 02:44PM
So it seems that more and more that Centreville is the best of the Northern Region with Lake Braddock possibly dethroning them. How do you think CVille and LB will stack up against the Powers of the south like Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes? Will they continue on their March to the Sea or are those schools too much for the North to handle?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
A6 north
()
Date: October 12, 2013 04:10PM
I don't think Braddock can hang hang with the 6a south powers but centreville certainly could though.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Pyle Shimmons
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:06PM
best 5A North team in the Northern Region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ITK
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:22PM
Soco 44 TC 37 final
Someone from soco literally killed 40 from tc
Someone from soco literally killed 40 from tc
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NovaWatcher
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:26PM
What coaches are on the chopping block right now?
Herndon Coach? Edison Coach? Woodson Coach?
Herndon Coach? Edison Coach? Woodson Coach?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Some random dude
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:28PM
Probably woodsons coach as they are 0-6
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:44PM
Coach's don't really get put on the hot seat often in high school sports. Really the only case is when the coach is really underperforming at a bigger school.
With that said, I have always been a supporter of giving a coach 3 years to establish a program. I think if a coach is losing regularly, the school needs to ask three questions. "Is the program developing character amongst its players? "Are the boys having a good time playing for the coach?" and finally "are the players getting better?" I've seen plenty of 2-8 teams that battle hard every week and I really respect those coaches. When you need 25-30 sound players it is a lot harder to compete for the smaller schools.
By the 3 year standard, I do think the Woodson coach may be on the hot seat. Herndon's coach is highly respected, but his team is playing awful this year when a lot of people thought they would progress some. These coaches all work hard, and not knowing the answer to those 3 questions for any of these coaches, none of us should comment on who should be fired.
With that said, I have always been a supporter of giving a coach 3 years to establish a program. I think if a coach is losing regularly, the school needs to ask three questions. "Is the program developing character amongst its players? "Are the boys having a good time playing for the coach?" and finally "are the players getting better?" I've seen plenty of 2-8 teams that battle hard every week and I really respect those coaches. When you need 25-30 sound players it is a lot harder to compete for the smaller schools.
By the 3 year standard, I do think the Woodson coach may be on the hot seat. Herndon's coach is highly respected, but his team is playing awful this year when a lot of people thought they would progress some. These coaches all work hard, and not knowing the answer to those 3 questions for any of these coaches, none of us should comment on who should be fired.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steve k3
()
Date: October 12, 2013 07:03PM
Wakefield coach has won 2 games this year, and Falls Church is 4-2. If they can do it so can Woodson and Herndon.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wak
()
Date: October 12, 2013 09:24PM
Who do y'all think is the best 6a north team besides centerville/lakebraddock
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 12, 2013 09:29PM
Besides those two it's still definitely Westfield. They almost beat Braddock and I do think they can give Centreville a better test than last night's showing. Centreville is just so much better than everyone else, and I think they have a real shot at beating one of the 757 teams for a state championship. The scary thing though, is next year is really their year, and most of their studs are juniors.
After Westfield I think you have Chantilly, Langley, and South County. Robinson is okay, but I think they would lose to all 3 of those teams.
After Westfield I think you have Chantilly, Langley, and South County. Robinson is okay, but I think they would lose to all 3 of those teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 13, 2013 02:27PM
Where does Patriot fit into this picture? With them being the Cardinal District placed in the Northern Region there are no common opponents and few have actually seen them play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ramette
()
Date: October 13, 2013 02:41PM
"After Westfield I think you have Chantilly, Langley, and South County. Robinson is okay, but I think they would lose to all 3 of those teams."
Don't sleep on JWR. They have an unstoppable running game (two stud RBs and QB), and they can pass enough to keep defenses honest. The new coach has the defensive scheme coming together, too. Sure, they'll lose to C'ville, but I can see them replaying the game in the Region final.
Don't sleep on JWR. They have an unstoppable running game (two stud RBs and QB), and they can pass enough to keep defenses honest. The new coach has the defensive scheme coming together, too. Sure, they'll lose to C'ville, but I can see them replaying the game in the Region final.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
robo97
()
Date: October 13, 2013 04:00PM
I am not impressed with Robinson 5-1
No signature wins!
The games they have won have been against Woodson, Herndon, Madison, all 0-6, Lee and Mt Vernon, none of these teams will be in contention.
They start the Concord schedule this week, let see what happens.
No signature wins!
The games they have won have been against Woodson, Herndon, Madison, all 0-6, Lee and Mt Vernon, none of these teams will be in contention.
They start the Concord schedule this week, let see what happens.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
j6UDt
()
Date: October 13, 2013 04:48PM
When it's spelled out like that, Robinson looks pretty bad. Really that weak a schedule for a Concorde team? 3 0-6 teams? Lol. And Lee and Mt. Vernon are garbage too.
We all know Meier can coach, but that was calculated on his part firing the previous coach when they had all these cupcakes on the schedule.
We all know Meier can coach, but that was calculated on his part firing the previous coach when they had all these cupcakes on the schedule.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ram Fan
()
Date: October 13, 2013 04:49PM
Herndon had a big win over Edison yesterday, they are most certainly not 0-6. Quality win for Robinson.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dj
()
Date: October 13, 2013 07:22PM
Anyone who thinks Centreville can hang with a team from the 757 is retarded.
Centreville is a great team and they will definitely come out of the north. Ya LB is shutting out patriot district schools but CVille is shutting out concorde schools, cant hang with them.
Smith, Ocean Lakes, etc would beat Cville just like in 2011. Those schools are no joke
Centreville is a great team and they will definitely come out of the north. Ya LB is shutting out patriot district schools but CVille is shutting out concorde schools, cant hang with them.
Smith, Ocean Lakes, etc would beat Cville just like in 2011. Those schools are no joke
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WP Fan
()
Date: October 13, 2013 07:49PM
It is just a shame that since Henderson was driven out WP has turned from a constant good football team to a 35 man dead pool. They have no talent on the lower levels and the kids who used to play will not even come out for the current coach. Example, current senior who was a starter on the 2011 district championship team as a linebacker and chose not to play this year. The new coach has the best of intentions, I get what he is trying to do, but this is not Annandale and you can't treat our kids like this and have them go through a wall for you. Our kids have too many people giving them ultimatums they need a coach that cares about them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coaches on the hot seat
()
Date: October 13, 2013 11:04PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Coach's don't really get put on the hot seat often
> in high school sports. Really the only case is
> when the coach is really underperforming at a
> bigger school.
>
> With that said, I have always been a supporter of
> giving a coach 3 years to establish a program. I
> think if a coach is losing regularly, the school
> needs to ask three questions. "Is the program
> developing character amongst its players? "Are the
> boys having a good time playing for the coach?"
> and finally "are the players getting better?"
> I've seen plenty of 2-8 teams that battle hard
> every week and I really respect those coaches.
> When you need 25-30 sound players it is a lot
> harder to compete for the smaller schools.
>
> By the 3 year standard, I do think the Woodson
> coach may be on the hot seat. Herndon's coach is
> highly respected, but his team is playing awful
> this year when a lot of people thought they would
> progress some. These coaches all work hard, and
> not knowing the answer to those 3 questions for
> any of these coaches, none of us should comment on
> who should be fired.
If you ask me that's not true. Woodson's & Herndon's coaches are in their 3rd year each I believe and Edison's coach is in his 5th or 6th year there. Herndon's coach I can understand that if you pull out one win in the Concorde, then you did a good job. Woodson has been under performing for a while and winning 2 games a year isn't cutting it when that school does have the athletes and numbers in it and competes in a weaker district (with the exception of 2-3 schools a year, this year would be SC and TC). Day will probably stay, but Dishun will probably be axed. As far as Edison goes, they had a great program there until Lewis left and hired the wrong man. Parker alienated a lot of people and a lot of talent and his philosophy speaks in his record at Edison. They were a consistent contender in D5 with the likes of Stone Bridge (I think they faced off in 5-6 straight regional titles at one point) and now he can't even beat Falls Church his former team. Sorry but this man should never have even been there to begin with.
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> Coach's don't really get put on the hot seat often
> in high school sports. Really the only case is
> when the coach is really underperforming at a
> bigger school.
>
> With that said, I have always been a supporter of
> giving a coach 3 years to establish a program. I
> think if a coach is losing regularly, the school
> needs to ask three questions. "Is the program
> developing character amongst its players? "Are the
> boys having a good time playing for the coach?"
> and finally "are the players getting better?"
> I've seen plenty of 2-8 teams that battle hard
> every week and I really respect those coaches.
> When you need 25-30 sound players it is a lot
> harder to compete for the smaller schools.
>
> By the 3 year standard, I do think the Woodson
> coach may be on the hot seat. Herndon's coach is
> highly respected, but his team is playing awful
> this year when a lot of people thought they would
> progress some. These coaches all work hard, and
> not knowing the answer to those 3 questions for
> any of these coaches, none of us should comment on
> who should be fired.
If you ask me that's not true. Woodson's & Herndon's coaches are in their 3rd year each I believe and Edison's coach is in his 5th or 6th year there. Herndon's coach I can understand that if you pull out one win in the Concorde, then you did a good job. Woodson has been under performing for a while and winning 2 games a year isn't cutting it when that school does have the athletes and numbers in it and competes in a weaker district (with the exception of 2-3 schools a year, this year would be SC and TC). Day will probably stay, but Dishun will probably be axed. As far as Edison goes, they had a great program there until Lewis left and hired the wrong man. Parker alienated a lot of people and a lot of talent and his philosophy speaks in his record at Edison. They were a consistent contender in D5 with the likes of Stone Bridge (I think they faced off in 5-6 straight regional titles at one point) and now he can't even beat Falls Church his former team. Sorry but this man should never have even been there to begin with.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oscar Smith
()
Date: October 14, 2013 09:12AM
Ain't no way these white schools up here are going to beat one of those nigger schools from the Beach area. Just because you have one or two black runners up here, those nigger Beach teams are loaded with fast blacks. Yes, they may be dumb, but that don't matter much when the athletic talent is so overwhelming on one side. The only prayer you have is the niggers fumble a bunch of times, and start fighting and bickering with each other, and even then it will be hard to beat them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: October 14, 2013 09:53AM
Oscar Smith Wrote:
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> Ain't no way these high schools up here are going
> to beat one of those high schools from the Beach
> area.
Why would you say that? A "Beach" team has only won 3 of the last 17 state titles. During that same time period "NOVA" teams have won 12.
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> Ain't no way these high schools up here are going
> to beat one of those high schools from the Beach
> area.
Why would you say that? A "Beach" team has only won 3 of the last 17 state titles. During that same time period "NOVA" teams have won 12.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
syndrom jim
()
Date: October 14, 2013 10:42AM
Yes, I think the top NOVA school can hold their own, but most schools up here wouldn't fare well in a district down there.. Those beach schools are almost all black, except for probably the punter, and some token white guy who has to drive the nigs around in his car.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Modarn Man
()
Date: October 14, 2013 11:59AM
Ocean Lakes football team is half black half white. Kellam is like 2/3 white. Cox is mostly all white. No one up here knows anything about the beach schools except that they are good. really good. And that's the truth.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hmtnrds
()
Date: October 14, 2013 12:58PM
Every skill position player(few QB exceptions) are black at most of the top beach schools.
Quit deluding yourself.
Quit deluding yourself.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TCohyeah
()
Date: October 14, 2013 01:08PM
Player on South County ruptured a TC player's spleen and caused internal bleeding...the hit was unbelievable. Was in ICU today but I believe he's been released.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ferdie pacheco
()
Date: October 14, 2013 01:30PM
What a barbaric sport.............it's as bad as boxing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldozer
()
Date: October 14, 2013 01:39PM
I would have liked to see Westfield and Centreville play under better conditions to get a greater sence of both teams potential. That said they both played in the same conditions and it wasn't close. Westfield's offense seems to lack any imagination and where Burns was a big part of the offense last year, I don't think they have a QB capable of getting the ball downfield to him or others. I would like to see this matchup if that element was part of their offense as it was last year. Either Lake Braddock or C'ville will likely play the Bulldogs one more time, I think I either case it will be a tough game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Azamat
()
Date: October 14, 2013 01:52PM
I'm glad I didn't cost us the game
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldozed
()
Date: October 14, 2013 04:48PM
Bulldozer Wrote:
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> I would have liked to see Westfield and
> Centreville play under better conditions to get a
> greater sence of both teams potential. That said
> they both played in the same conditions and it
> wasn't close. Westfield's offense seems to lack
> any imagination and where Burns was a big part of
> the offense last year, I don't think they have a
> QB capable of getting the ball downfield to him or
> others. I would like to see this matchup if that
> element was part of their offense as it was last
> year. Either Lake Braddock or C'ville will
> likely play the Bulldogs one more time, I think I
> either case it will be a tough game.
C'ville's margin of victory would be even more since they have a better arial attack than Westfield.
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> I would have liked to see Westfield and
> Centreville play under better conditions to get a
> greater sence of both teams potential. That said
> they both played in the same conditions and it
> wasn't close. Westfield's offense seems to lack
> any imagination and where Burns was a big part of
> the offense last year, I don't think they have a
> QB capable of getting the ball downfield to him or
> others. I would like to see this matchup if that
> element was part of their offense as it was last
> year. Either Lake Braddock or C'ville will
> likely play the Bulldogs one more time, I think I
> either case it will be a tough game.
C'ville's margin of victory would be even more since they have a better arial attack than Westfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 14, 2013 07:27PM
Here are the spreads for this week. Not the most thrilling week of matchups, but should be a handful of good games. Robinson will have their judgment day against Westfield, that might be a good one, and I'd say is the game of the week.
Centreville (-42.0) @ Oakton
Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon
Langley (-20.0) @ South Lakes
Madison (-7.0) @ Jefferson
This is actually a tougher pick, Madison is 0-6 with a tougher schedule, while TJ has 3 wins and a decent running attack. I can’t remember the last time TJ beat Madison, or if it has even happened. I’ll be pulling for TJ but will pick Madison, should be one of the better games this week.
Marshall @ Stone Bridge (-52.0)
McLean @ Fairfax (-8.5)
Mount Vernon @ Falls Church (-11.0)
Stuart @ Hayfield (-28.0)
TC Williams (-20.0) @ Lee
Woodson (-7.0) @ Annandale
Wakefield @ Yorktown (-24.0)
West Potomac @ South County (-28.0)
West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-45.0)
Westfield (-14.0) @ Robinson
I like Westfield to send a statement, and I think Robinson’s easy schedule gets exposed here. This may turn out to be a really good game though, probably game of the week.
Centreville (-42.0) @ Oakton
Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon
Langley (-20.0) @ South Lakes
Madison (-7.0) @ Jefferson
This is actually a tougher pick, Madison is 0-6 with a tougher schedule, while TJ has 3 wins and a decent running attack. I can’t remember the last time TJ beat Madison, or if it has even happened. I’ll be pulling for TJ but will pick Madison, should be one of the better games this week.
Marshall @ Stone Bridge (-52.0)
McLean @ Fairfax (-8.5)
Mount Vernon @ Falls Church (-11.0)
Stuart @ Hayfield (-28.0)
TC Williams (-20.0) @ Lee
Woodson (-7.0) @ Annandale
Wakefield @ Yorktown (-24.0)
West Potomac @ South County (-28.0)
West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-45.0)
Westfield (-14.0) @ Robinson
I like Westfield to send a statement, and I think Robinson’s easy schedule gets exposed here. This may turn out to be a really good game though, probably game of the week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr Question
()
Date: October 14, 2013 09:16PM
What game will be the best game to watch from the rest of the games this year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Red lights
()
Date: October 15, 2013 01:13AM
South County vs Lake Braddock game should be one of the most thrilling games before the playoff starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs Westfield game might be a good game but I think WF will dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Malik
()
Date: October 15, 2013 02:12AM
Yeah Centreville will make it to the state championship and lose to a nigger school from the beach/Norfolk area
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Monday Night Football
()
Date: October 15, 2013 07:50AM
Anyone else travel out to Ashburn to watch Tuscarora play Broad Run last night? What a great high school football game, as Broad Run came back from a 17-6 deficit in the 4th quarter to beat a previously undefeated Tuscarora team.
Yes, I know both of these schools are in Loudoun and not Fairfax, but D5 schools in Fairfax better take note. Langley is the only Fairfax team that has a chance to defeat Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, Tuscarora, or Broad Run come playoff time!
Why are D5 teams in Fairfax so weak compared to D5 schools in Loudoun?
Yes, I know both of these schools are in Loudoun and not Fairfax, but D5 schools in Fairfax better take note. Langley is the only Fairfax team that has a chance to defeat Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, Tuscarora, or Broad Run come playoff time!
Why are D5 teams in Fairfax so weak compared to D5 schools in Loudoun?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
blackhole
()
Date: October 15, 2013 08:16AM
Langley is 6 now dipshit. Also, who gives a fuck about Loudoun Schools? It is all based on demographics.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 15, 2013 11:59AM
Welcome to Week 8 of the season! The good news is that there are no hurricanes in the forecast THIS weekend! Since we are getting deep into the season, I'll go ahead and post the official playoff standings through week 7 as posted on Monday the 14th by the VHSL.
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
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Team (Record) Power Points
1. Centreville (6-0) 31.33
2. Lake Braddock (6-0) 30.83
3. Patriot (5-1) 29.14
4. South County (5-1) 28.50
5. Westfield (4-2) 28.17
6. Washington-Lee (4-1) 28.00
7. Langley (4-2) 27.67
8. Chantilly (4-2) 27.17
9. Yorktown (5-1) 27.00
10. T.C. Williams (4-2) 26.83
11. James Robinson (5-1) 26.67
12. South Lakes (4-2) 25.83
13. Fairfax (4-2) 24.67
14. Oakton (4-2) 24.00
15. Battlefield (3-3) 23.83
16. Stonewall Jackson (3-3) 23.67
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TOP 16 ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFF
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17. McLean (3-3) 23.50
18. West Springfield (2-3) 22.40
19. Osbourn (2-4) 21.50
20. Osbourn Park (2-5) 21.29
21. Hayfield (1-5) 20.67
22. West Potomac (1-4) 20.40
23. Annandale (1-5) 19.33
24. Herndon (1-5) 19.17
25. James Madison (0-6) 18.17
26. W.T. Woodson (0-6) 18.00
So if the first round were held today, here is what it would look like:
#16 Stonewall Jackson (3-3) at #1 Centreville (6-0)
#15 Battlefield (3-3_ at #2 Lake Braddock (6-0)
#14 Oakton (4-2) at #3 Patriot (5-1)
#13 Fairfax (4-2) at #4 South County (5-1)
#12 South Lakes (4-2) at #5 Westfield (4-2)
#11 James Robinson (5-1) at #6 Washington-Lee (4-1)
#10 T.C. Williams (4-2) at #7 Langley (4-2)
#9 Yorktown (5-1) at #8 Chantilly (4-2)
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
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Team (Record) Power Points
1. Massaponax (7-0) 31.14
2. Briar Woods (5-1) 28.00
3. Tuscarora (6-0) 30.50
4. North Stafford (6-1) 27.29
5. Stone Bridge (4-2) 27.00
6. Falls Church (4-2) 25.83
7. Broad Run (4-1) 24.80
8. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-3) 24.50
9. Mount Vernon (3-2) 24.00
10. Mountain View (3-3) 23.17
11. Albemarle (3-3) 23.00
12. Potomac (2-4) 22.00
13. Potomac Falls (4-2) 21.83
14. Thomas Jefferson (3-3) 21.67
15. Robert E. Lee (2-4) 21.33
16. Thomas Edison (2-4) 20.17
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TOP 16 ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFF
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17. Brooke Point (2-5) 20.14
18. Wakefield (2-4) 18.83
19. J.E.B. Stuart (1-5) 17.67
20. Orange County (1-5) 17.50
21. Freedom-Loudoun (1-6) 16.57
22. Patrick Henry (0-6) 15.50
23. George Marshall (0-6) 15.00
24. Halifax County (0-6) 14.50
So if the first round were held today, here is what it would look like:
#16 Thomas Edison (2-4) at #1 Massaponax (7-0)
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-4) at #2 Briar Woods (5-1)
#14 Thomas Jefferson (3-3) at #3 Tuscarora (6-0)
#13 Potomac Falls (4-2) at #4 North Stafford (6-1)
#12 Potomac (2-4) at #5 Stone Bridge (4-2)
#11 Albemarle (3-3) at #6 Falls Church (4-2)
#10 Mountain View (3-3) at #7 Broad Run (4-1)
#9 Mount Vernon (3-2) at #8 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-3)
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
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Team (Record) Power Points
1. Centreville (6-0) 31.33
2. Lake Braddock (6-0) 30.83
3. Patriot (5-1) 29.14
4. South County (5-1) 28.50
5. Westfield (4-2) 28.17
6. Washington-Lee (4-1) 28.00
7. Langley (4-2) 27.67
8. Chantilly (4-2) 27.17
9. Yorktown (5-1) 27.00
10. T.C. Williams (4-2) 26.83
11. James Robinson (5-1) 26.67
12. South Lakes (4-2) 25.83
13. Fairfax (4-2) 24.67
14. Oakton (4-2) 24.00
15. Battlefield (3-3) 23.83
16. Stonewall Jackson (3-3) 23.67
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TOP 16 ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFF
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17. McLean (3-3) 23.50
18. West Springfield (2-3) 22.40
19. Osbourn (2-4) 21.50
20. Osbourn Park (2-5) 21.29
21. Hayfield (1-5) 20.67
22. West Potomac (1-4) 20.40
23. Annandale (1-5) 19.33
24. Herndon (1-5) 19.17
25. James Madison (0-6) 18.17
26. W.T. Woodson (0-6) 18.00
So if the first round were held today, here is what it would look like:
#16 Stonewall Jackson (3-3) at #1 Centreville (6-0)
#15 Battlefield (3-3_ at #2 Lake Braddock (6-0)
#14 Oakton (4-2) at #3 Patriot (5-1)
#13 Fairfax (4-2) at #4 South County (5-1)
#12 South Lakes (4-2) at #5 Westfield (4-2)
#11 James Robinson (5-1) at #6 Washington-Lee (4-1)
#10 T.C. Williams (4-2) at #7 Langley (4-2)
#9 Yorktown (5-1) at #8 Chantilly (4-2)
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
---------------------------------
Team (Record) Power Points
1. Massaponax (7-0) 31.14
2. Briar Woods (5-1) 28.00
3. Tuscarora (6-0) 30.50
4. North Stafford (6-1) 27.29
5. Stone Bridge (4-2) 27.00
6. Falls Church (4-2) 25.83
7. Broad Run (4-1) 24.80
8. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-3) 24.50
9. Mount Vernon (3-2) 24.00
10. Mountain View (3-3) 23.17
11. Albemarle (3-3) 23.00
12. Potomac (2-4) 22.00
13. Potomac Falls (4-2) 21.83
14. Thomas Jefferson (3-3) 21.67
15. Robert E. Lee (2-4) 21.33
16. Thomas Edison (2-4) 20.17
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TOP 16 ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFF
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17. Brooke Point (2-5) 20.14
18. Wakefield (2-4) 18.83
19. J.E.B. Stuart (1-5) 17.67
20. Orange County (1-5) 17.50
21. Freedom-Loudoun (1-6) 16.57
22. Patrick Henry (0-6) 15.50
23. George Marshall (0-6) 15.00
24. Halifax County (0-6) 14.50
So if the first round were held today, here is what it would look like:
#16 Thomas Edison (2-4) at #1 Massaponax (7-0)
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-4) at #2 Briar Woods (5-1)
#14 Thomas Jefferson (3-3) at #3 Tuscarora (6-0)
#13 Potomac Falls (4-2) at #4 North Stafford (6-1)
#12 Potomac (2-4) at #5 Stone Bridge (4-2)
#11 Albemarle (3-3) at #6 Falls Church (4-2)
#10 Mountain View (3-3) at #7 Broad Run (4-1)
#9 Mount Vernon (3-2) at #8 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-3)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 15, 2013 01:14PM
Please note that the VHSL compiled their statistics for the weekend on Monday morning prior to the playing of the games that were rescheduled for Monday night due tp rain.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 15, 2013 02:34PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Westfield (-14.0) @ Robinson
> I like Westfield to send a statement, and I think
> Robinson’s easy schedule gets exposed here.
> This may turn out to be a really good game though,
> probably game of the week.
I'd expect the game to stay reasonably close - at least early. Westfield just is not getting very good QB play this year. If they had even an average QB I'd be certain they would win out to go 8-2.
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> Westfield (-14.0) @ Robinson
> I like Westfield to send a statement, and I think
> Robinson’s easy schedule gets exposed here.
> This may turn out to be a really good game though,
> probably game of the week.
I'd expect the game to stay reasonably close - at least early. Westfield just is not getting very good QB play this year. If they had even an average QB I'd be certain they would win out to go 8-2.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: October 15, 2013 04:19PM
The people saying that the beach team (Oscar Smith/Ocean Lakes) that comes out of the south region will run over Centreville obviously haven't watched Centreville play. This team is so much better, so much deeper, than the 2011 team that got beaten pretty badly in the finals by Oscar Smith. They have speed all over the field and have at least 6 players who can strike at any time (Turner, Boose, Nickens-yzer, Tutt, Walter, Heiner). These players fit right in to Haddock's system. Their defense is 3rd in the state, giving up about 6 a game. The first team defense has only given up 10 points all season. Wiggins, Love, Brooks among others stuff the run and Tutt and Turner patrol the air. Tutt has only given up one reception all year, and it was a quick slant against Westfield for about 5 yards. The beach might win, but it will definitely not be as badly as you think it will be. Cville might even get the victory.
Sorry, just my response to people saying cville doesn't have a chance.
Sorry, just my response to people saying cville doesn't have a chance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
agreed
()
Date: October 15, 2013 04:37PM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> The people saying that the beach team (Oscar
> Smith/Ocean Lakes) that comes out of the south
> region will run over Centreville obviously haven't
> watched Centreville play. This team is so much
> better, so much deeper, than the 2011 team that
> got beaten pretty badly in the finals by Oscar
> Smith. They have speed all over the field and have
> at least 6 players who can strike at any time
> (Turner, Boose, Nickens-yzer, Tutt, Walter,
> Heiner). These players fit right in to Haddock's
> system. Their defense is 3rd in the state, giving
> up about 6 a game. The first team defense has only
> given up 10 points all season. Wiggins, Love,
> Brooks among others stuff the run and Tutt and
> Turner patrol the air. Tutt has only given up one
> reception all year, and it was a quick slant
> against Westfield for about 5 yards. The beach
> might win, but it will definitely not be as badly
> as you think it will be. Cville might even get the
> victory.
>
> Sorry, just my response to people saying cville
> doesn't have a chance.
I agree with you 100% and according to VHSL, Cville's Defense is #1 in the state.
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_def_gy.cfm?GY=2013&state=1
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> The people saying that the beach team (Oscar
> Smith/Ocean Lakes) that comes out of the south
> region will run over Centreville obviously haven't
> watched Centreville play. This team is so much
> better, so much deeper, than the 2011 team that
> got beaten pretty badly in the finals by Oscar
> Smith. They have speed all over the field and have
> at least 6 players who can strike at any time
> (Turner, Boose, Nickens-yzer, Tutt, Walter,
> Heiner). These players fit right in to Haddock's
> system. Their defense is 3rd in the state, giving
> up about 6 a game. The first team defense has only
> given up 10 points all season. Wiggins, Love,
> Brooks among others stuff the run and Tutt and
> Turner patrol the air. Tutt has only given up one
> reception all year, and it was a quick slant
> against Westfield for about 5 yards. The beach
> might win, but it will definitely not be as badly
> as you think it will be. Cville might even get the
> victory.
>
> Sorry, just my response to people saying cville
> doesn't have a chance.
I agree with you 100% and according to VHSL, Cville's Defense is #1 in the state.
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_def_gy.cfm?GY=2013&state=1
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FootballFever
()
Date: October 15, 2013 10:39PM
Also, take a look at Oscar Smith's schedule. They are beating up on D4 teams. The one average D6 team they played which has a 4-3 record, it was relatively close 27-14. Now Ocean Lakes is beating up on opponents like CVille is but the one D6 team they just beat, Frank Cox, is 4-2 like Westfield and they beat them by about the same score as CVille beat WF.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
college
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Date: October 16, 2013 10:47AM
college football is way better than HS football
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WSS?
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Date: October 16, 2013 12:20PM
West Springfield is a sleeper alright…I think there still sleeping, wait till LB gets a hold of them Friday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: October 16, 2013 12:31PM
Red lights Wrote:
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> South County vs Lake Braddock game should be one
> of the most thrilling games before the playoff
> starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The
> annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs Westfield
> game might be a good game but I think WF will
> dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
I think Chantilly vs. Westfield will be the best game and it will be close. I think Lake Braddock-Soutch County is way over hyped. Chantilly beat SoCo and no way SoCo will be capable of hanging with Lake Braddock. We'll see what transpires, but if I had to do a spread right now I'd have Lake Braddock (-21.0) over South County. I think with Westfield's offense less explosive, when they play Chantilly in a packed rivalry game anything can happen.
If Chantilly can beat Yorktown and Robinson in the next 3 weeks, which will be tough, especially with Yorktown, the Chantilly/Westfield game may be a game for 3rd in the region which would be big time to get on that opposite bracket of Centreville. Again, Chantilly has work cut out for them here, but I think they are capable of putting a run together.
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> South County vs Lake Braddock game should be one
> of the most thrilling games before the playoff
> starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The
> annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs Westfield
> game might be a good game but I think WF will
> dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
I think Chantilly vs. Westfield will be the best game and it will be close. I think Lake Braddock-Soutch County is way over hyped. Chantilly beat SoCo and no way SoCo will be capable of hanging with Lake Braddock. We'll see what transpires, but if I had to do a spread right now I'd have Lake Braddock (-21.0) over South County. I think with Westfield's offense less explosive, when they play Chantilly in a packed rivalry game anything can happen.
If Chantilly can beat Yorktown and Robinson in the next 3 weeks, which will be tough, especially with Yorktown, the Chantilly/Westfield game may be a game for 3rd in the region which would be big time to get on that opposite bracket of Centreville. Again, Chantilly has work cut out for them here, but I think they are capable of putting a run together.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WSS?
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Date: October 16, 2013 02:45PM
Still waiting to see WS be legit. LOL
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Winter
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Date: October 16, 2013 07:46PM
Who is the most over hyped team in this region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: October 16, 2013 09:22PM
south county
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Winter
()
Date: October 16, 2013 10:04PM
football Wrote:
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> south county
Why do you believe that?
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> south county
Why do you believe that?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
August Dynasty
()
Date: October 16, 2013 10:05PM
Winter Wrote:
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> Who is the most over hyped team in this region?
Without question the team that gets the most hype year in and year out and fails to live up to is Chantilly. Sorry Charger fans.
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> Who is the most over hyped team in this region?
Without question the team that gets the most hype year in and year out and fails to live up to is Chantilly. Sorry Charger fans.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
?????
()
Date: October 16, 2013 10:18PM
SOCO needs to go up against a strong defense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Very Impressed
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Date: October 16, 2013 10:30PM
Langley is defintely the biggest suprise team this year. Especially beating Chantilly and almost topping Stone Bridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wite
()
Date: October 16, 2013 11:19PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Red lights Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South County vs Lake Braddock game should be
> one
> > of the most thrilling games before the playoff
> > starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The
> > annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs
> Westfield
> > game might be a good game but I think WF will
> > dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
>
> I think Chantilly vs. Westfield will be the best
> game and it will be close. I think Lake
> Braddock-Soutch County is way over hyped.
> Chantilly beat SoCo and no way SoCo will be
> capable of hanging with Lake Braddock. We'll see
> what transpires, but if I had to do a spread right
> now I'd have Lake Braddock (-21.0) over South
> County. I think with Westfield's offense less
> explosive, when they play Chantilly in a packed
> rivalry game anything can happen.
>
> If Chantilly can beat Yorktown and Robinson in the
> next 3 weeks, which will be tough, especially with
> Yorktown, the Chantilly/Westfield game may be a
> game for 3rd in the region which would be big time
> to get on that opposite bracket of Centreville.
> Again, Chantilly has work cut out for them here,
> but I think they are capable of putting a run
> together.
I agree that whoever gets the 3rd seed will be very happy to only have to meet Centerville in the finals if they get that far. I think Chantilly can easily win both of those games but they wont get the 3rd seed for me.
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> Red lights Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South County vs Lake Braddock game should be
> one
> > of the most thrilling games before the playoff
> > starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The
> > annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs
> Westfield
> > game might be a good game but I think WF will
> > dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
>
> I think Chantilly vs. Westfield will be the best
> game and it will be close. I think Lake
> Braddock-Soutch County is way over hyped.
> Chantilly beat SoCo and no way SoCo will be
> capable of hanging with Lake Braddock. We'll see
> what transpires, but if I had to do a spread right
> now I'd have Lake Braddock (-21.0) over South
> County. I think with Westfield's offense less
> explosive, when they play Chantilly in a packed
> rivalry game anything can happen.
>
> If Chantilly can beat Yorktown and Robinson in the
> next 3 weeks, which will be tough, especially with
> Yorktown, the Chantilly/Westfield game may be a
> game for 3rd in the region which would be big time
> to get on that opposite bracket of Centreville.
> Again, Chantilly has work cut out for them here,
> but I think they are capable of putting a run
> together.
I agree that whoever gets the 3rd seed will be very happy to only have to meet Centerville in the finals if they get that far. I think Chantilly can easily win both of those games but they wont get the 3rd seed for me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wite
()
Date: October 16, 2013 11:22PM
> steve k2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Red lights Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > South County vs Lake Braddock game should be
> > one
> > > of the most thrilling games before the
> playoff
> > > starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The
> > > annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs
> > Westfield
> > > game might be a good game but I think WF will
> > > dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
> >
> > I think Chantilly vs. Westfield will be the
> best
> > game and it will be close. I think Lake
> > Braddock-Soutch County is way over hyped.
> > Chantilly beat SoCo and no way SoCo will be
> > capable of hanging with Lake Braddock. We'll
> see
> > what transpires, but if I had to do a spread
> right
> > now I'd have Lake Braddock (-21.0) over South
> > County. I think with Westfield's offense less
> > explosive, when they play Chantilly in a packed
> > rivalry game anything can happen.
> >
> > If Chantilly can beat Yorktown and Robinson in
> the
> > next 3 weeks, which will be tough, especially
> with
> > Yorktown, the Chantilly/Westfield game may be a
> > game for 3rd in the region which would be big
> time
> > to get on that opposite bracket of Centreville.
>
> > Again, Chantilly has work cut out for them
> here,
> > but I think they are capable of putting a run
> > together.
But i dont think lake braddock will roll over south county. LB will not face a better offense than soco's unless they make it to the state finals. That Game will be a shootout because soco's defense also sucks
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Red lights Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > South County vs Lake Braddock game should be
> > one
> > > of the most thrilling games before the
> playoff
> > > starts. Braddock vs TC might be good too. The
> > > annual rivalry game between Chantilly vs
> > Westfield
> > > game might be a good game but I think WF will
> > > dominate Tilly by at least 2-3 TD's.
> >
> > I think Chantilly vs. Westfield will be the
> best
> > game and it will be close. I think Lake
> > Braddock-Soutch County is way over hyped.
> > Chantilly beat SoCo and no way SoCo will be
> > capable of hanging with Lake Braddock. We'll
> see
> > what transpires, but if I had to do a spread
> right
> > now I'd have Lake Braddock (-21.0) over South
> > County. I think with Westfield's offense less
> > explosive, when they play Chantilly in a packed
> > rivalry game anything can happen.
> >
> > If Chantilly can beat Yorktown and Robinson in
> the
> > next 3 weeks, which will be tough, especially
> with
> > Yorktown, the Chantilly/Westfield game may be a
> > game for 3rd in the region which would be big
> time
> > to get on that opposite bracket of Centreville.
>
> > Again, Chantilly has work cut out for them
> here,
> > but I think they are capable of putting a run
> > together.
But i dont think lake braddock will roll over south county. LB will not face a better offense than soco's unless they make it to the state finals. That Game will be a shootout because soco's defense also sucks
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
malcolm
()
Date: October 16, 2013 11:31PM
"Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by: FootballFever ()
Date: October 15, 2013 10:39PM
Also, take a look at Oscar Smith's schedule. They are beating up on D4 teams. The one average D6 team they played which has a 4-3 record, it was relatively close 27-14. Now Ocean Lakes is beating up on opponents like CVille is but the one D6 team they just beat, Frank Cox, is 4-2 like Westfield and they beat them by about the same score as CVille beat WF."
Lol what?? Smith is beating D6 teams, they are D6. they beat a western branch team (D6) who is ranked in the top 10 by VA preps.
They also beat D5 Lake Taylor 42-2. (Yes the same Lake Taylor that won the D5 state championship over Stone Bridge.
Posted by: FootballFever ()
Date: October 15, 2013 10:39PM
Also, take a look at Oscar Smith's schedule. They are beating up on D4 teams. The one average D6 team they played which has a 4-3 record, it was relatively close 27-14. Now Ocean Lakes is beating up on opponents like CVille is but the one D6 team they just beat, Frank Cox, is 4-2 like Westfield and they beat them by about the same score as CVille beat WF."
Lol what?? Smith is beating D6 teams, they are D6. they beat a western branch team (D6) who is ranked in the top 10 by VA preps.
They also beat D5 Lake Taylor 42-2. (Yes the same Lake Taylor that won the D5 state championship over Stone Bridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nr fanatic
()
Date: October 17, 2013 02:15AM
> > >
> But i dont think lake braddock will roll over
> south county. LB will not face a better offense
> than soco's unless they make it to the state
> finals. That Game will be a shootout because
> soco's defense also sucks
What about Centreville? Their offense is way better than south county's, it has yet to be stopped with a much harder schedule. Hell even Chantilly outscored them in a shoot out.
South County is an OK team, that is capable of making some noise in the playoffs, but their schedule is so easy. The only decent team they played wAs Chantilly and they lost, and the only other game is going to be against Lake Braddock and they will get destroyed.
> But i dont think lake braddock will roll over
> south county. LB will not face a better offense
> than soco's unless they make it to the state
> finals. That Game will be a shootout because
> soco's defense also sucks
What about Centreville? Their offense is way better than south county's, it has yet to be stopped with a much harder schedule. Hell even Chantilly outscored them in a shoot out.
South County is an OK team, that is capable of making some noise in the playoffs, but their schedule is so easy. The only decent team they played wAs Chantilly and they lost, and the only other game is going to be against Lake Braddock and they will get destroyed.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 17, 2013 07:43AM
Look again Malcolm, Oscar Smith's opponents so far, Lake Taylor (D4 - Lost to LC Bird and OS), Western Branch (D6), Indian River(D5), Lakeland (D4), Deep Creek (D4) and Nansemond River (D4). LT and WB are formidable teams but two D4's have not won a game and another has one win. I think Oscar Smith is very solid and they cannot help their schedule but I think the south should be more concerned with Ocean Lakes.
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/teaminfo2_gamescores.cfm?teamid=10540&gy=2013
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/teaminfo2_gamescores.cfm?teamid=10540&gy=2013
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wite
()
Date: October 17, 2013 09:11AM
nr fanatic Wrote:
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> > > >
> > But i dont think lake braddock will roll over
> > south county. LB will not face a better offense
> > than soco's unless they make it to the state
> > finals. That Game will be a shootout because
> > soco's defense also sucks
>
> What about Centreville? Their offense is way
> better than south county's, it has yet to be
> stopped with a much harder schedule. Hell even
> Chantilly outscored them in a shoot out.
>
> South County is an OK team, that is capable of
> making some noise in the playoffs, but their
> schedule is so easy. The only decent team they
> played wAs Chantilly and they lost, and the only
> other game is going to be against Lake Braddock
> and they will get destroyed
Soco has the best statistical offense in the northern region however I believe that centerville has the best one
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> > > >
> > But i dont think lake braddock will roll over
> > south county. LB will not face a better offense
> > than soco's unless they make it to the state
> > finals. That Game will be a shootout because
> > soco's defense also sucks
>
> What about Centreville? Their offense is way
> better than south county's, it has yet to be
> stopped with a much harder schedule. Hell even
> Chantilly outscored them in a shoot out.
>
> South County is an OK team, that is capable of
> making some noise in the playoffs, but their
> schedule is so easy. The only decent team they
> played wAs Chantilly and they lost, and the only
> other game is going to be against Lake Braddock
> and they will get destroyed
Soco has the best statistical offense in the northern region however I believe that centerville has the best one
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
jakeiridjf
()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:08PM
Who will win each district?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
A6 North
()
Date: October 17, 2013 11:50PM
National: Most likely Yorktown
Liberty: Unquestionably Stone Bridge
Concorde: Unquestionably Centreville
Patriot: Mostly Lake Braddock
Liberty: Unquestionably Stone Bridge
Concorde: Unquestionably Centreville
Patriot: Mostly Lake Braddock
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCoFootball
()
Date: October 18, 2013 11:05AM
If you look at the three teams: Centreville, Lake Braddock, and South County there isn't much difference between the teams on paper. Centreville up unitl the the Westfied game has had a pretty easy schedule. SOuth County has had and easy schedule, and if healthy against Chantilly they win by three touchdowns. Lake Braddock has had the toughest schedule out of all three, but beaten average Robinson, Westfield, and Stone Bridge teams.
South County offense:49.5 Pts. a game Defense:19.8 Pts. a game
Centreville offense:45.3 Pts. a game Defense:5 Pts. a game
Lake Braddock offense:45.5 Pts. a game Defense:12 Pts. a game
South County: Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Chantilly, Lee, West Springfield, TC.
Centreville: West Po, TC, Hayfield, West Springfield, Chantilly, Westfield
Lake Braddock: Robinson, Stone Bridge, Westfield, Annandale, West Po, Woodson
Looks like a lot of the same teams here!!
Needless to day South County Vs. Lake Braddock will be a better game them most think. Lake Braddock hasn't been tested since week three and have been hearing about how good they are all year, and South County is a hungry team looking to make a place in the region. In my opinion South County is way better then both Centreville and Lake Breaddock on special teams, and that might be the difference in week nine. These playoff type games don't always come down to who looks better on paper, and South County will be 100% healthy and ready to play Lake Braddock in week nine!!
Believe the hype South County will be ready to play week nine!!
SoCoPride!!!!
South County offense:49.5 Pts. a game Defense:19.8 Pts. a game
Centreville offense:45.3 Pts. a game Defense:5 Pts. a game
Lake Braddock offense:45.5 Pts. a game Defense:12 Pts. a game
South County: Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Chantilly, Lee, West Springfield, TC.
Centreville: West Po, TC, Hayfield, West Springfield, Chantilly, Westfield
Lake Braddock: Robinson, Stone Bridge, Westfield, Annandale, West Po, Woodson
Looks like a lot of the same teams here!!
Needless to day South County Vs. Lake Braddock will be a better game them most think. Lake Braddock hasn't been tested since week three and have been hearing about how good they are all year, and South County is a hungry team looking to make a place in the region. In my opinion South County is way better then both Centreville and Lake Breaddock on special teams, and that might be the difference in week nine. These playoff type games don't always come down to who looks better on paper, and South County will be 100% healthy and ready to play Lake Braddock in week nine!!
Believe the hype South County will be ready to play week nine!!
SoCoPride!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
PoorSport
()
Date: October 18, 2013 11:32AM
SoCo coach is a poor sport and plays starters deep into the 4th quarter, thus padding their offensive scores. Centerville coach does NOT do that, I have seem him subbing early in 3rd quarter in blow outs. Unsure about LB - he has a rep, but I haven't seen any of his games this year? Bottom line Centerville offense is the real deal, SoCo's is not.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCoFootball
()
Date: October 18, 2013 11:41AM
Not a poor sport, just getting kids ready for four quarters of football. Come playoff time, those let back quarters can come back to haunt you in 6A.
Again:
South County offense:49.5 Pts. a game
Centreville offense:45.3 Pts. a game
Stats don't lie!!
SoCoPride!!!!
Again:
South County offense:49.5 Pts. a game
Centreville offense:45.3 Pts. a game
Stats don't lie!!
SoCoPride!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
So
()
Date: October 18, 2013 12:10PM
SoCoFootball Wrote:
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> Not a poor sport, just getting kids ready for four
> quarters of football. Come playoff time, those
> let back quarters can come back to haunt you in
> 6A.
>
> Again:
>
> South County offense:49.5 Pts. a game
> Centreville offense:45.3 Pts. a game
>
> Stats don't lie!!
>
> SoCoPride!!!!
Centreville's 1st team is averaging less than 3 quarters per game.
Their starting O avg is 43 pts per game while playing less than 3 quarters
Their starting D is giving up an avg of 1.67 in those same <3 quarters
Come playoff time, the starters are going to have fresh legs.
Cville Pride!!!!
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> Not a poor sport, just getting kids ready for four
> quarters of football. Come playoff time, those
> let back quarters can come back to haunt you in
> 6A.
>
> Again:
>
> South County offense:49.5 Pts. a game
> Centreville offense:45.3 Pts. a game
>
> Stats don't lie!!
>
> SoCoPride!!!!
Centreville's 1st team is averaging less than 3 quarters per game.
Their starting O avg is 43 pts per game while playing less than 3 quarters
Their starting D is giving up an avg of 1.67 in those same <3 quarters
Come playoff time, the starters are going to have fresh legs.
Cville Pride!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCo Football
()
Date: October 18, 2013 12:23PM
Defensively they are really good not argument there.
Fresh legs just means weak legs!! Play four solid quarters of football, that is what wins in the playoffs!!
SoCoPride!!
Fresh legs just means weak legs!! Play four solid quarters of football, that is what wins in the playoffs!!
SoCoPride!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
So
()
Date: October 18, 2013 12:48PM
SoCo Football Wrote:
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> Defensively they are really good not argument
> there.
>
> Fresh legs just means weak legs!! Play four solid
> quarters of football, that is what wins in the
> playoffs!!
>
> SoCoPride!!
Sure hope you're on the Cville side of the playoff bracket. Then you'll see how weak their legs are!!
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> Defensively they are really good not argument
> there.
>
> Fresh legs just means weak legs!! Play four solid
> quarters of football, that is what wins in the
> playoffs!!
>
> SoCoPride!!
Sure hope you're on the Cville side of the playoff bracket. Then you'll see how weak their legs are!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCoFootball
()
Date: October 18, 2013 01:01PM
So Wrote:
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> SoCo Football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Defensively they are really good not argument
> > there.
> >
> > Fresh legs just means weak legs!! Play four
> solid
> > quarters of football, that is what wins in the
> > playoffs!!
> >
> > SoCoPride!!
>
> Sure hope you're on the Cville side of the playoff
> bracket. Then you'll see how weak their legs
> are!!
Looking forward to it!!
SoCoPride!!
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> SoCo Football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Defensively they are really good not argument
> > there.
> >
> > Fresh legs just means weak legs!! Play four
> solid
> > quarters of football, that is what wins in the
> > playoffs!!
> >
> > SoCoPride!!
>
> Sure hope you're on the Cville side of the playoff
> bracket. Then you'll see how weak their legs
> are!!
Looking forward to it!!
SoCoPride!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
soco sucks
()
Date: October 18, 2013 02:34PM
south county will get crushed by braddock week 9. stop being silly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCoFootball
()
Date: October 18, 2013 04:08PM
Stats don't lie, it will be much closer than what people are calling for.
Believe it.
SoCoPride!!
Believe it.
SoCoPride!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 18, 2013 04:45PM
According the VHSL Reference Game Simulator:
2013 Lake Braddock Bruins 28
2013 South County Stallions 14
Game played in Burke, Virginia October 18, 2013
Lake Braddock is favored to win this game 70% of the time
Seems about right to me.
2013 Lake Braddock Bruins 28
2013 South County Stallions 14
Game played in Burke, Virginia October 18, 2013
Lake Braddock is favored to win this game 70% of the time
Seems about right to me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Joking right
()
Date: October 18, 2013 05:17PM
LOL @ South County crushing Centreville. Centreville is THE best team in 6A North.
Soundly beating Westfield by 4 TDs, dismantling Chantilly by 6 TD's (which Soco lost to btw), crushing TC Williams by 4 TDs (which South County barely beat). They will lose badly like the rest. But, that doesn't make South County a bad team because they are a really good squad. It's just that this year, 6A North has Centreville written all over it to go states (kinda like how it was with Westfeld in 2007).
Soundly beating Westfield by 4 TDs, dismantling Chantilly by 6 TD's (which Soco lost to btw), crushing TC Williams by 4 TDs (which South County barely beat). They will lose badly like the rest. But, that doesn't make South County a bad team because they are a really good squad. It's just that this year, 6A North has Centreville written all over it to go states (kinda like how it was with Westfeld in 2007).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 18, 2013 08:28PM
Centreville up 35-0 on Oakton with 9 minutes in 2nd quarter still..
Westfield is tied with Robinson 7-7 at half
Chantilly up 21-20 on Herndon, Chantilly is not defending the pass well.
Westfield is tied with Robinson 7-7 at half
Chantilly up 21-20 on Herndon, Chantilly is not defending the pass well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Vienna Embarassment
()
Date: October 18, 2013 10:02PM
Bad news for Vienna teams. Oakton and Marshall are predictably getting slaughtered by Centreville and Stone Bridge, but Madison just lost to TJ by 3, meaning that the Marshall-Madison game will be the new Toilet Bowl of the season, pitting winless Vienna teams against each other.
Of course, as bad as Madison is, it should still cruise over Marshall, which has perhaps the worst team the Northern Region has fielded in many years.
Of course, as bad as Madison is, it should still cruise over Marshall, which has perhaps the worst team the Northern Region has fielded in many years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Warhawk Alum
()
Date: October 18, 2013 10:33PM
The Madison coach has to be on the hot seat at 0-7. They've played a tougher schedule, but needed to beat TJ tonight. They'll call it the toilet bowl, but Marshall has been in 3 toilet bowls against Wakefield, Freedom, and Stuart and lost all 3 by double digits. Madison is way better than those teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Twheelz
()
Date: October 19, 2013 12:47AM
S/o to my jr campbell for getting in his first game after his injury
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I'm not hip
()
Date: October 19, 2013 08:32AM
What were some scores?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 19, 2013 08:48AM
Centreville (-42.0) @ Oakton
Centreville won 42-21; went up 42-0 in typical fashion, but give credit to Oakton who fought and scrapped. For the first time this year, Centreville did not cover their spread.
Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon
Chantilly wins 56-40; spot on for their spread for the second consecutive week! Obviously more total points than I expected.
Langley (-20.0) @ South Lakes
Langley wins 56-33. Spread covered.
Madison (-7.0) @ Jefferson
Was a good game as predicted, TJ wins 24-21. Madison’s coach should be on the hot seat at 0-7.
Marshall @ Stone Bridge (-52.0)
Stone Bridge wins 56-7. Stone Bridge didn’t reach the spread, close though.
McLean @ Fairfax (-8.5)
Fairfax wins 45-20
Mount Vernon @ Falls Church (-11.0)
Falls Church wins 42-17
Stuart @ Hayfield (-28.0)
Hayfield wins 47-0
TC Williams (-20.0) @ Lee
TC Williams wins 32-0
Woodson (-7.0) @ Annandale
Woodson wins 33-0; Annandale must really be bad.
Wakefield @ Yorktown (-24.0)
Yorktown won 44-14
West Potomac @ South County (-28.0)
South County won 49-22
West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-45.0)
Lake Braddock won 51-0. Spread very close, Lake Braddock has outscored their last 4 opponents 227-0. Unreal, even with the weak district. They will face the other 2 decent teams though, South County and TC Williams to conclude the season. Those teams will score, but Lake Braddock should still smash them.
Westfield (-14.0) @ Robinson
Westfield won 14-13. Kudos to Robinson, not a bad performance.
Centreville won 42-21; went up 42-0 in typical fashion, but give credit to Oakton who fought and scrapped. For the first time this year, Centreville did not cover their spread.
Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon
Chantilly wins 56-40; spot on for their spread for the second consecutive week! Obviously more total points than I expected.
Langley (-20.0) @ South Lakes
Langley wins 56-33. Spread covered.
Madison (-7.0) @ Jefferson
Was a good game as predicted, TJ wins 24-21. Madison’s coach should be on the hot seat at 0-7.
Marshall @ Stone Bridge (-52.0)
Stone Bridge wins 56-7. Stone Bridge didn’t reach the spread, close though.
McLean @ Fairfax (-8.5)
Fairfax wins 45-20
Mount Vernon @ Falls Church (-11.0)
Falls Church wins 42-17
Stuart @ Hayfield (-28.0)
Hayfield wins 47-0
TC Williams (-20.0) @ Lee
TC Williams wins 32-0
Woodson (-7.0) @ Annandale
Woodson wins 33-0; Annandale must really be bad.
Wakefield @ Yorktown (-24.0)
Yorktown won 44-14
West Potomac @ South County (-28.0)
South County won 49-22
West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-45.0)
Lake Braddock won 51-0. Spread very close, Lake Braddock has outscored their last 4 opponents 227-0. Unreal, even with the weak district. They will face the other 2 decent teams though, South County and TC Williams to conclude the season. Those teams will score, but Lake Braddock should still smash them.
Westfield (-14.0) @ Robinson
Westfield won 14-13. Kudos to Robinson, not a bad performance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
IM HIP
()
Date: October 19, 2013 09:18AM
Socos offensive coordinator is some shit
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
terrrrible
()
Date: October 19, 2013 09:51AM
People have been saying that for years, both at lee and soco. berates kids, terrible playcaller, rides his star players, blows out bad teams and runs the score up against them to save face.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
¿?¿
()
Date: October 19, 2013 11:08AM
How did TC only beat Annandale 20-14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr ref
()
Date: October 20, 2013 12:22AM
I hate reffing games that I get so much stick for
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimmy Womble
()
Date: October 20, 2013 07:21AM
Why is Madison so Horrible? They look like a JV team. I guess most of the kids grew up playing soccer?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jess1
()
Date: October 20, 2013 10:09AM
"Why is Madison so Horrible"
My $.02 is that the central/western County redistricting a few years back really impacted Madison by stripping out the "Madison Island" & sending it to South Lakes (which has improved in several sports. Go figure)
My $.02 is that the central/western County redistricting a few years back really impacted Madison by stripping out the "Madison Island" & sending it to South Lakes (which has improved in several sports. Go figure)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Horse
()
Date: October 20, 2013 10:59AM
That's horse shit! There are a bunch of kids at Madison that are supposed to go to South Lakes but chose Madison because of sports. The sports program at Madison is much better. There baseball team contends for states every year and so does Lacrosse. Madison's football team beats up on South Lakes every year! The Only Madison Island kids the go to South Lakes are the ones that don't play sports!
Jess1 Wrote:
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> "Why is Madison so Horrible"
>
> My $.02 is that the central/western County
> redistricting a few years back really impacted
> Madison by stripping out the "Madison Island" &
> sending it to South Lakes (which has improved in
> several sports. Go figure)
Jess1 Wrote:
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> "Why is Madison so Horrible"
>
> My $.02 is that the central/western County
> redistricting a few years back really impacted
> Madison by stripping out the "Madison Island" &
> sending it to South Lakes (which has improved in
> several sports. Go figure)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hey rube
()
Date: October 20, 2013 11:58AM
RE: Centreville won 42-21; went up 42-0 in typical fashion, but give credit to Oakton who fought and scrapped. For the first time this year, Centreville did not cover their spread.
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Same pattern as all previous games. Up 42-7 at the half. Second half is mainly 2nd and 3rd string. So really two games. In the second game, Oakton beat CVHS's second string 14-0.
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Same pattern as all previous games. Up 42-7 at the half. Second half is mainly 2nd and 3rd string. So really two games. In the second game, Oakton beat CVHS's second string 14-0.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: October 20, 2013 03:12PM
Lake Braddock will be a challenge, but this was the same spread predicted for the SoCo/TC Williams game by VHSL-Reference. TCW was supposed to beat SoCo. SC dominated early then started to let TCW back in the game with a breakdown in discipline that killed several drives which would have put them up by multiple scores. TCW did not give up and kept fighting back. But SC hung on, and even with 33 penalties for 135 yards, SC managed to score 44 points and keep TCW out of the end zone when it counted. Similar game in some respects to the SC/Chantilly game in week 4, except this time SC comes away with the W. SC needs to reduce the penalties (many caused by the same 2-3 players), and tighten up on D. If they can do this, they may go far in the playoffs. One game at a time.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 20, 2013 05:59PM
Here are the spreads for this week.
Annandale @ West Springfield (-14.0)
Centreville (-49.0) @ Washington Lee
Chantilly (-7.0) @ Yorktown *Game of the Week
Fairfax (-42.0) @ Marshall
Falls Church (-20.0) @ Edison
Herndon @ Westfield (-23.0)
Jefferson @ Langley (-20.0)
Lee (-6.5) @ West Potomac
Madison @ McLean (-7.0)
Mount Vernon @ Hayfield (-24.0)
Oakton @ Robinson (-10.0)
South Lakes @ Stone Bridge (-40.0)
Woodson @ South County (-31.0)
Wakefield (-6.0) @ Stuart
Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ TC Williams
Annandale @ West Springfield (-14.0)
Centreville (-49.0) @ Washington Lee
Chantilly (-7.0) @ Yorktown *Game of the Week
Fairfax (-42.0) @ Marshall
Falls Church (-20.0) @ Edison
Herndon @ Westfield (-23.0)
Jefferson @ Langley (-20.0)
Lee (-6.5) @ West Potomac
Madison @ McLean (-7.0)
Mount Vernon @ Hayfield (-24.0)
Oakton @ Robinson (-10.0)
South Lakes @ Stone Bridge (-40.0)
Woodson @ South County (-31.0)
Wakefield (-6.0) @ Stuart
Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ TC Williams
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bobby
()
Date: October 20, 2013 06:36PM
Madison lost half almost all there starters except for there freshman center. They had 9 all-liberty district players plus one 2nd team all-state Linebacker. Madison will be good to go fall of 2016.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RICO
()
Date: October 20, 2013 07:51PM
South County went overboard for their homecoming game. They had an actual Stallion lead on them to the field and got special hc jerseys with their names on the back.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JLC
()
Date: October 20, 2013 08:30PM
YEA WE BEAT DEMO--- i mean WEST PO #HAWKDOWN
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CHENG
()
Date: October 20, 2013 08:35PM
who do you guys have winning the players honors for the year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JHKd
()
Date: October 20, 2013 08:40PM
Who leads each district in rushing yards? passing yards?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
backnlas
()
Date: October 20, 2013 08:42PM
some of those spreads look off..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Sarah Derrk
()
Date: October 20, 2013 08:44PM
Which programs are being set up to have great futures in the next couple of years?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ITK
()
Date: October 20, 2013 08:47PM
SOCO will beat woodson by at least 50
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mack
()
Date: October 20, 2013 09:01PM
lmao south county's homecoming jerseys said "SOUTH" across the front....no county lmaoooo and they didnt match the helmets or anything......looked disgusting, wouldnt even keep mine if i was a player...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RICO
()
Date: October 20, 2013 09:08PM
mack Wrote:
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> lmao south county's homecoming jerseys said
> "SOUTH" across the front....no county lmaoooo and
> they didnt match the helmets or
> anything......looked disgusting, wouldnt even keep
> mine if i was a player...
YOU ARE SO HIP LOL "SOUTH beat you"
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> lmao south county's homecoming jerseys said
> "SOUTH" across the front....no county lmaoooo and
> they didnt match the helmets or
> anything......looked disgusting, wouldnt even keep
> mine if i was a player...
YOU ARE SO HIP LOL "SOUTH beat you"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ABEL
()
Date: October 20, 2013 09:14PM
you guys are all retarded octopuses
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HASSEB
()
Date: October 20, 2013 09:49PM
im straight outta Compton nigga
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:05PM
Welcome to Week number nine of the football season! Here are the official playoff standings through week eight as posted by the Virginia High School League just a couple of hours ago.
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
-----------------------------------
#1. Centreville (7-0) -- Rating: 33.14
#2. Lake Braddock (7-0) -- Rating: 31.86
#3. Westfield (5-2) -- Rating: 30.43
#4. Langley (5-2) -- Rating: 29.71
#5. Washington-Lee (6-1) -- Rating: 29.43
#6. South County (6-1) -- Rating: 29.43
#7. Patriot (6-2) -- Rating: 28.63
#8. Yorktown (6-1) -- Rating: 28.14
#9. Thomas C. Williams (5-2) -- Rating: 28.14
#10. Chantilly (5-2) -- Rating: 27.86
#11. Fairfax (5-2) -- Rating: 26.86
#12. Battlefield (5-3) -- Rating: 26.50
#13. James Robinson (5-2) -- Rating: 26.00
#14. South Lakes (4-3) -- Rating: 25.86
#15. Stonewall Jackson (4-4) -- Rating: 25.50
#16. Oakton (4-3) -- Rating: 24.43
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. McLean (3-4) -- Rating: 23.43
#18. Hayfield (2-5) -- Rating: 22.57
#19. West Potomac (2-5) -- Rating: 22.43
#20. Osbourn Park (2-5) -- Rating: 22.00
#21. Osbourn (2-5) -- Rating: 21.86
#22. West Springfield (2-5) -- Rating: 21.57
#23. Wilbur T. Woodson (1-6) -- Rating: 20.00
#24. Herndon (1-6) -- Rating: 19.14
#25. Annandale (1-6) -- Rating: 19.14
#26. James Madison (0-7) -- Rating: 18.57
If the 6A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Oakton (4-3) at #1 Centreville (7-0)
#15 Stonewall Jackson (4-4) at #2 Lake Braddock (7-0)
#14 South Lakes (4-3) at #3 Westfield (5-2)
#13 James Robinson (5-2) at #4 Langley (5-2)
#12 Battlefield (5-3) at #5 Washington-Lee (6-1)
#11 Fairfax (5-2) at #6 South County (6-1)
#10 Chantilly (5-2) at #7 Patriot (6-2)
#9 Thomas C. Williams (5-2) at #8 Yorktown (6-1)
Winner of the 6A North playoff will play winner of the 6A South for state title.
6A North: Top 16 by power rating regardless of conference and will NOT cross bracket semifinals.
6A South: Top 8 each section (Conference 1 & 2 – top 8; Conference 3 & 4 – top 8) with final 4 in region then reseeded and will NOT cross bracket in state semifinals.
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
-----------------------------------
#1. Massaponax (8-0) -- Rating: 31.50
#2. Tuscarora (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
#3. Briar Woods (6-1) -- Rating: 29.29
#4. North Stafford (7-1) -- Rating: 29.13
#5. Stone Bridge (5-2) -- Rating: 27.43
#6. Falls Church (5-2) -- Rating: 27.14
#7. Broad Run (5-2) -- Rating: 26.43
#8. Mountain View (4-3) -- Rating: 25.14
#9. Albemarle (4-3) -- Rating: 24.71
#10. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-4) -- Rating: 24.43
#11. Potomac (3-4) -- Rating: 23.14
#12. Thomas Jefferson (4-3) -- Rating: 22.57
#13. Mount Vernon (3-4) -- Rating: 22.57
#14. Potomac Falls (4-3) -- Rating: 22.00
#15. Robert E. Lee (2-5) -- Rating: 21.29
#16. Thomas Edison (2-5) -- Rating: 20.29
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. Brooke Point (2-6) -- Rating: 20.00
#18. Wakefield (2-5) -- Rating: 19.43
#19. Patrick Henry (1-6) -- Rating: 18.29
#20. Orange County (1-6) -- Rating: 18.14
#21. J.E.B. Stuart (1-6) -- Rating: 18.00
#22. Freedom-Loudoun (1-7) -- Rating: 16.38
#23. Halifax County (1-6) -- Rating: 16.14
#24. George Marshall (0-7) -- Rating: 15.57
If the 5A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Thomas Edison (2-5) at #1 Massaponax (8-0)
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-5) at #2 Tuscarora (7-1)
#14 Potomac Falls (4-3) at #3 Briar Woods (6-1)
#13 Mount Vernon (3-4) at #4 North Stafford (7-1)
#12 Thomas Jefferson (4-3) at #5 Stone Bridge (5-2)
#11 Potomac (3-4) at #6 Falls Church (5-2)
#10 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-4) at #7 Broad Run (5-2)
#9 Albemarle (4-3) at #8 Mountain View (4-3)
Winner of the 5A North playoff will play winner of the 5A South for state title.
5A North: Top 16 by power rating regardless of conference and will NOT cross bracket semifinals
5A South: Top 8 from Central Conferences bracketed together; Top 8 from Eastern Conferences bracketed together, final teams from each bracket meet in state semifinal (will NOT cross bracket semifinals)
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
-----------------------------------
#1. Centreville (7-0) -- Rating: 33.14
#2. Lake Braddock (7-0) -- Rating: 31.86
#3. Westfield (5-2) -- Rating: 30.43
#4. Langley (5-2) -- Rating: 29.71
#5. Washington-Lee (6-1) -- Rating: 29.43
#6. South County (6-1) -- Rating: 29.43
#7. Patriot (6-2) -- Rating: 28.63
#8. Yorktown (6-1) -- Rating: 28.14
#9. Thomas C. Williams (5-2) -- Rating: 28.14
#10. Chantilly (5-2) -- Rating: 27.86
#11. Fairfax (5-2) -- Rating: 26.86
#12. Battlefield (5-3) -- Rating: 26.50
#13. James Robinson (5-2) -- Rating: 26.00
#14. South Lakes (4-3) -- Rating: 25.86
#15. Stonewall Jackson (4-4) -- Rating: 25.50
#16. Oakton (4-3) -- Rating: 24.43
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. McLean (3-4) -- Rating: 23.43
#18. Hayfield (2-5) -- Rating: 22.57
#19. West Potomac (2-5) -- Rating: 22.43
#20. Osbourn Park (2-5) -- Rating: 22.00
#21. Osbourn (2-5) -- Rating: 21.86
#22. West Springfield (2-5) -- Rating: 21.57
#23. Wilbur T. Woodson (1-6) -- Rating: 20.00
#24. Herndon (1-6) -- Rating: 19.14
#25. Annandale (1-6) -- Rating: 19.14
#26. James Madison (0-7) -- Rating: 18.57
If the 6A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Oakton (4-3) at #1 Centreville (7-0)
#15 Stonewall Jackson (4-4) at #2 Lake Braddock (7-0)
#14 South Lakes (4-3) at #3 Westfield (5-2)
#13 James Robinson (5-2) at #4 Langley (5-2)
#12 Battlefield (5-3) at #5 Washington-Lee (6-1)
#11 Fairfax (5-2) at #6 South County (6-1)
#10 Chantilly (5-2) at #7 Patriot (6-2)
#9 Thomas C. Williams (5-2) at #8 Yorktown (6-1)
Winner of the 6A North playoff will play winner of the 6A South for state title.
6A North: Top 16 by power rating regardless of conference and will NOT cross bracket semifinals.
6A South: Top 8 each section (Conference 1 & 2 – top 8; Conference 3 & 4 – top 8) with final 4 in region then reseeded and will NOT cross bracket in state semifinals.
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
-----------------------------------
#1. Massaponax (8-0) -- Rating: 31.50
#2. Tuscarora (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
#3. Briar Woods (6-1) -- Rating: 29.29
#4. North Stafford (7-1) -- Rating: 29.13
#5. Stone Bridge (5-2) -- Rating: 27.43
#6. Falls Church (5-2) -- Rating: 27.14
#7. Broad Run (5-2) -- Rating: 26.43
#8. Mountain View (4-3) -- Rating: 25.14
#9. Albemarle (4-3) -- Rating: 24.71
#10. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-4) -- Rating: 24.43
#11. Potomac (3-4) -- Rating: 23.14
#12. Thomas Jefferson (4-3) -- Rating: 22.57
#13. Mount Vernon (3-4) -- Rating: 22.57
#14. Potomac Falls (4-3) -- Rating: 22.00
#15. Robert E. Lee (2-5) -- Rating: 21.29
#16. Thomas Edison (2-5) -- Rating: 20.29
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. Brooke Point (2-6) -- Rating: 20.00
#18. Wakefield (2-5) -- Rating: 19.43
#19. Patrick Henry (1-6) -- Rating: 18.29
#20. Orange County (1-6) -- Rating: 18.14
#21. J.E.B. Stuart (1-6) -- Rating: 18.00
#22. Freedom-Loudoun (1-7) -- Rating: 16.38
#23. Halifax County (1-6) -- Rating: 16.14
#24. George Marshall (0-7) -- Rating: 15.57
If the 5A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Thomas Edison (2-5) at #1 Massaponax (8-0)
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-5) at #2 Tuscarora (7-1)
#14 Potomac Falls (4-3) at #3 Briar Woods (6-1)
#13 Mount Vernon (3-4) at #4 North Stafford (7-1)
#12 Thomas Jefferson (4-3) at #5 Stone Bridge (5-2)
#11 Potomac (3-4) at #6 Falls Church (5-2)
#10 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-4) at #7 Broad Run (5-2)
#9 Albemarle (4-3) at #8 Mountain View (4-3)
Winner of the 5A North playoff will play winner of the 5A South for state title.
5A North: Top 16 by power rating regardless of conference and will NOT cross bracket semifinals
5A South: Top 8 from Central Conferences bracketed together; Top 8 from Eastern Conferences bracketed together, final teams from each bracket meet in state semifinal (will NOT cross bracket semifinals)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:11PM
I would just like to know where all those West Springfield supporters have run off to again... seems that nice sleeper team is still snoring away...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 21, 2013 05:26PM
Here is a rundown of all the district standings that involve teams in the Fairfax area through week eight.
Cardinal District
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#1. C.D. Hylton (6A-South) -- 6-1 district, 6-1 overall
#2. Patriot (6A-North) -- 6-2 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Forest Park (6A-South) -- 5-2 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Battlefield (6A-North) -- 5-3 district, 5-3 overall
#5. Woodbridge (6A-South) -- 4-3 district, 4-3 overall
#6. Stonewall Jackson (6A-North) -- 4-4 district, 4-4 overall
#7. Freedom-Woodbridge (5A-North) -- 3-4 district, 3-4 overall
#7. Potomac (5A-North) -- 3-4 district, 3-4 overall
#9. Osbourn Park (6A-North) -- 2-5 district, 2-5 overall
#10. Osbourn (6A-North) -- 2-5 district, 2-5 overall
#11. Gar-Field (6A-South) -- 0-7 district, 0-7 overall
Commonwealth District
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#1. Massaponax (5A-North) -- 4-0 district, 8-0 overall
#2. North Stafford (5A-North) -- 3-1 district, 7-1 overall
#3. Colonial Forge (6A-South) -- 2-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Riverbend (6A-South) -- 1-2 district, 5-2 overall
#5. Mountain View (5A-North) -- 1-2 district, 4-3 overall
#6. Brooke Point (5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-6 overall
#7. Stafford (6A-South) -- 0-3 district, 0-7 overall
Concorde District
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#1. Centreville (6A-North) -- 3-0 district, 7-0 overall
#2. Chantilly (6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 5-2 overall
#3. Westfield (6A-North) -- 1-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. James Robinson (6A-North) -- 1-1 district, 5-2 overall
#5. Oakton (6A-North) -- 0-2 district, 4-3 overall
#6. Herndon (6A-North) -- 0-2 district, 1-6 overall
Liberty District
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#1. Stone Bridge (5A-North) -- 4-0 district, 5-2 overall
#2. Langley (6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 5-2 overall
#3. Fairfax (6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. South Lakes (6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 4-3 overall
#5. Thomas Jefferson (5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 4-3 overall
#6. McLean (6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 3-4 overall
#7. James Madison (6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 0-7 overall
#8. George C. Marshall (5A-North) -- 0-5 district, 0-7 overall
National District
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#1. Washington-Lee (6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-1 overall
#1. Yorktown (6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-1 overall
#3. Falls Church (5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Mount Vernon (5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-2 overall
#5. Hayfield (6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 2-5 overall
#6. Thomas Edison (5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-5 overall
#7. J.E.B. Stuart (5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 1-6 overall
#8. Wakefield (5A-North) -- 0-4 district, 2-5 overall
Patriot District
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#1. Lake Braddock (6A-North) -- 4-0 district, 7-0 overall
#2. South County (6A-North) -- 4-0 district, 6-1 overall
#3. Thomas C. Williams (6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. West Potomac (6A-North) -- 1-2 district, 2-5 overall
#5. Wilbur T. Woodson (6A-North) -- 1-2 district, 1-6 overall
#6. West Springfield (6A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-5 overall
#7. Robert E. Lee (6A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-5 overall
#8. Annandale (6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 1-6 overall
Potomac District
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#1. Briar Woods (5A-North) -- 2-0 district, 6-1 overall
#2. Tuscarora (5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 7-1 overall
#3. Broad Run (5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Potomac Falls (5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 4-3 overall
#5. Freedom-Loudoun (5A-North) -- 0-2 district, 1-7 overall
Cardinal District
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#1. C.D. Hylton (6A-South) -- 6-1 district, 6-1 overall
#2. Patriot (6A-North) -- 6-2 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Forest Park (6A-South) -- 5-2 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Battlefield (6A-North) -- 5-3 district, 5-3 overall
#5. Woodbridge (6A-South) -- 4-3 district, 4-3 overall
#6. Stonewall Jackson (6A-North) -- 4-4 district, 4-4 overall
#7. Freedom-Woodbridge (5A-North) -- 3-4 district, 3-4 overall
#7. Potomac (5A-North) -- 3-4 district, 3-4 overall
#9. Osbourn Park (6A-North) -- 2-5 district, 2-5 overall
#10. Osbourn (6A-North) -- 2-5 district, 2-5 overall
#11. Gar-Field (6A-South) -- 0-7 district, 0-7 overall
Commonwealth District
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#1. Massaponax (5A-North) -- 4-0 district, 8-0 overall
#2. North Stafford (5A-North) -- 3-1 district, 7-1 overall
#3. Colonial Forge (6A-South) -- 2-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Riverbend (6A-South) -- 1-2 district, 5-2 overall
#5. Mountain View (5A-North) -- 1-2 district, 4-3 overall
#6. Brooke Point (5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-6 overall
#7. Stafford (6A-South) -- 0-3 district, 0-7 overall
Concorde District
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#1. Centreville (6A-North) -- 3-0 district, 7-0 overall
#2. Chantilly (6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 5-2 overall
#3. Westfield (6A-North) -- 1-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. James Robinson (6A-North) -- 1-1 district, 5-2 overall
#5. Oakton (6A-North) -- 0-2 district, 4-3 overall
#6. Herndon (6A-North) -- 0-2 district, 1-6 overall
Liberty District
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#1. Stone Bridge (5A-North) -- 4-0 district, 5-2 overall
#2. Langley (6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 5-2 overall
#3. Fairfax (6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. South Lakes (6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 4-3 overall
#5. Thomas Jefferson (5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 4-3 overall
#6. McLean (6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 3-4 overall
#7. James Madison (6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 0-7 overall
#8. George C. Marshall (5A-North) -- 0-5 district, 0-7 overall
National District
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#1. Washington-Lee (6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-1 overall
#1. Yorktown (6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-1 overall
#3. Falls Church (5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Mount Vernon (5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-2 overall
#5. Hayfield (6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 2-5 overall
#6. Thomas Edison (5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-5 overall
#7. J.E.B. Stuart (5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 1-6 overall
#8. Wakefield (5A-North) -- 0-4 district, 2-5 overall
Patriot District
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#1. Lake Braddock (6A-North) -- 4-0 district, 7-0 overall
#2. South County (6A-North) -- 4-0 district, 6-1 overall
#3. Thomas C. Williams (6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. West Potomac (6A-North) -- 1-2 district, 2-5 overall
#5. Wilbur T. Woodson (6A-North) -- 1-2 district, 1-6 overall
#6. West Springfield (6A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-5 overall
#7. Robert E. Lee (6A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-5 overall
#8. Annandale (6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 1-6 overall
Potomac District
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#1. Briar Woods (5A-North) -- 2-0 district, 6-1 overall
#2. Tuscarora (5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 7-1 overall
#3. Broad Run (5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 5-2 overall
#4. Potomac Falls (5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 4-3 overall
#5. Freedom-Loudoun (5A-North) -- 0-2 district, 1-7 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
your wrong
()
Date: October 21, 2013 06:58PM
south lakes beat Madison a couple weeks ago
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wakeup
()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:11PM
I could probably do a better job than some coaches
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:26PM
I want to personally tell "nat4lee" and "steve k2" good job. This far into the season, those two are really keeping the thread going with great research and analysis. Way to go.
My top 10 of Fairfax:
1-Centreville
2-Lake Braddock
3-Westfield
4-Langley
5-South County
6-Chantilly
7-Washington-Lee
8-Yorktown
9-T. C. Williams
10-Fairfax
Don't think it's perfect, but if you disagree just post it below.
My top 10 of Fairfax:
1-Centreville
2-Lake Braddock
3-Westfield
4-Langley
5-South County
6-Chantilly
7-Washington-Lee
8-Yorktown
9-T. C. Williams
10-Fairfax
Don't think it's perfect, but if you disagree just post it below.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:46PM
Officially, all of the statistics and standings I post come directly from the state's governing sports body, the Virginia High School League, and are perfectly accurate. These do not include my personal predictions or thoughts, which I always reserve for separate postings. Any errors you think you may find are probably just my bad typing skills.
I welcome analysis of the raw data I post, and welcome everyone's thoughts on how the last five weeks of the regular season (and our new playoffs!) might turn out!
I welcome analysis of the raw data I post, and welcome everyone's thoughts on how the last five weeks of the regular season (and our new playoffs!) might turn out!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jakeyy
()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:50PM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> I want to personally tell "nat4lee" and "steve k2"
> good job. This far into the season, those two are
> really keeping the thread going with great
> research and analysis. Way to go.
>
> My top 10 of Fairfax:
> 1-Centreville
> 2-Lake Braddock
> 3-Westfield
> 4-Langley
> 5-South County
> 6-Chantilly
> 7-Washington-Lee
> 8-Yorktown
> 9-T. C. Williams
> 10-Fairfax
>
> Don't think it's perfect, but if you disagree just
> post it below.
I agree with most of those. For me Langley, soco and chantilly could all have the 4,5 or 6th spot
-------------------------------------------------------
> I want to personally tell "nat4lee" and "steve k2"
> good job. This far into the season, those two are
> really keeping the thread going with great
> research and analysis. Way to go.
>
> My top 10 of Fairfax:
> 1-Centreville
> 2-Lake Braddock
> 3-Westfield
> 4-Langley
> 5-South County
> 6-Chantilly
> 7-Washington-Lee
> 8-Yorktown
> 9-T. C. Williams
> 10-Fairfax
>
> Don't think it's perfect, but if you disagree just
> post it below.
I agree with most of those. For me Langley, soco and chantilly could all have the 4,5 or 6th spot
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cakewalk
()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:56PM
The Kicker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I want to personally tell "nat4lee" and "steve k2"
> good job. This far into the season, those two are
> really keeping the thread going with great
> research and analysis. Way to go.
>
> My top 10 of Fairfax:
> 1-Centreville
> 2-Lake Braddock
> 3-Westfield
> 4-Langley
> 5-South County
> 6-Chantilly
> 7-Washington-Lee
> 8-Yorktown
> 9-T. C. Williams
> 10-Fairfax
>
> Don't think it's perfect, but if you disagree just
> post it below.
I dont think that W-L should be that high on the list. Yes they only have one loss, but they have barely beat some teams that they should have killed. And they will get raped this weekend by CVILLE
-------------------------------------------------------
> I want to personally tell "nat4lee" and "steve k2"
> good job. This far into the season, those two are
> really keeping the thread going with great
> research and analysis. Way to go.
>
> My top 10 of Fairfax:
> 1-Centreville
> 2-Lake Braddock
> 3-Westfield
> 4-Langley
> 5-South County
> 6-Chantilly
> 7-Washington-Lee
> 8-Yorktown
> 9-T. C. Williams
> 10-Fairfax
>
> Don't think it's perfect, but if you disagree just
> post it below.
I dont think that W-L should be that high on the list. Yes they only have one loss, but they have barely beat some teams that they should have killed. And they will get raped this weekend by CVILLE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOCO
()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:57PM
SOCO's first string tailback will be returning for the Lake Braddock game. He has been out since their bye week
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
also bs
()
Date: October 22, 2013 08:20AM
Horse Wrote:
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> That's horse shit! There are a bunch of kids at
> Madison that are supposed to go to South Lakes but
> chose Madison because of sports. The sports
> program at Madison is much better. There baseball
> team contends for states every year and so does
> Lacrosse. Madison's football team beats up on
> South Lakes every year! The Only Madison Island
> kids the go to South Lakes are the ones that don't
> play sports!
>
> Jess1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Why is Madison so Horrible"
> >
> > My $.02 is that the central/western County
> > redistricting a few years back really impacted
> > Madison by stripping out the "Madison Island" &
> > sending it to South Lakes (which has improved
> in
> > several sports. Go figure)
Wrong on both posts. The Madison island that got redistricted to SL had minimal impact on both schools because there are only like 25-30 students that got redistricted. In football the school most affected by the redistricting was Oakton because they lost several fox mill kids who now start for SL although a lot of FM kids still go to Oakton (both schools have 4-3 records but it's considered an up year for SL and a down year for Oakton).
I would agree that Madison's athletics overall are much better than SL, Madison has a lot of baseball players that live in the SL district but I don't know how many of them live in the madison island. SL needs to get a new DSA asap, the crap that would fly when the school had 1,400 students won't fly when they have close to 3k in a few years.
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> That's horse shit! There are a bunch of kids at
> Madison that are supposed to go to South Lakes but
> chose Madison because of sports. The sports
> program at Madison is much better. There baseball
> team contends for states every year and so does
> Lacrosse. Madison's football team beats up on
> South Lakes every year! The Only Madison Island
> kids the go to South Lakes are the ones that don't
> play sports!
>
> Jess1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Why is Madison so Horrible"
> >
> > My $.02 is that the central/western County
> > redistricting a few years back really impacted
> > Madison by stripping out the "Madison Island" &
> > sending it to South Lakes (which has improved
> in
> > several sports. Go figure)
Wrong on both posts. The Madison island that got redistricted to SL had minimal impact on both schools because there are only like 25-30 students that got redistricted. In football the school most affected by the redistricting was Oakton because they lost several fox mill kids who now start for SL although a lot of FM kids still go to Oakton (both schools have 4-3 records but it's considered an up year for SL and a down year for Oakton).
I would agree that Madison's athletics overall are much better than SL, Madison has a lot of baseball players that live in the SL district but I don't know how many of them live in the madison island. SL needs to get a new DSA asap, the crap that would fly when the school had 1,400 students won't fly when they have close to 3k in a few years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wshs?
()
Date: October 22, 2013 08:27PM
who are the best players on west Springfield and will they do well against Annandale?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Chuck Bable
()
Date: October 22, 2013 08:51PM
If you look at a lot of south county's games in detail, a lot of them are very poorly reffed... Refs calling completely rediculous calls only on south county's side of the ball. South county's offensive line is one of the most sound offensive lines I've seen in a while
Other than size. south county's offense backs and quarterback are also the real deal. It seems to me (being a highschool football analyst for over 15 years now) that south county is the real deal.. Don't sleep on them, I promise you their a team that is hungry to show the state who they really are. Their defense slacks in some places, which is all fixable. I believe that if south county defense gets it together south county will be able to go all the way.
Other than size. south county's offense backs and quarterback are also the real deal. It seems to me (being a highschool football analyst for over 15 years now) that south county is the real deal.. Don't sleep on them, I promise you their a team that is hungry to show the state who they really are. Their defense slacks in some places, which is all fixable. I believe that if south county defense gets it together south county will be able to go all the way.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Contradiction
()
Date: October 22, 2013 09:41PM
"had minimal impact on both schools"
"Madison has a lot of baseball players that live in the SL district"
Duh.
"Madison has a lot of baseball players that live in the SL district"
Duh.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Thread topics and you
()
Date: October 22, 2013 10:01PM
Contradiction Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "had minimal impact on both schools"
>
> "Madison has a lot of baseball players that live
> in the SL district"
>
> Duh.
In football dumbass.
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> "had minimal impact on both schools"
>
> "Madison has a lot of baseball players that live
> in the SL district"
>
> Duh.
In football dumbass.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Grandfather
()
Date: October 22, 2013 10:35PM
Nice dude lol every team will get screwed by the refs
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco
()
Date: October 23, 2013 11:35AM
Chuck Bable Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you look at a lot of south county's games in
> detail, a lot of them are very poorly reffed...
> Refs calling completely rediculous calls only on
> south county's side of the ball. South county's
> offensive line is one of the most sound offensive
> lines I've seen in a while
> Other than size. south county's offense backs and
> quarterback are also the real deal. It seems to
> me (being a highschool football analyst for over
> 15 years now) that south county is the real deal..
> Don't sleep on them, I promise you their a team
> that is hungry to show the state who they really
> are. Their defense slacks in some places, which is
> all fixable. I believe that if south county
> defense gets it together south county will be able
> to go all the way.
This is too accurate. The refs have it out for the oline due to physical play. Finishing blocks and pancakes are viewed as penalties. The offense is also very dynamic mixing the triple option with great spread plays. This is a true playoff contender!!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you look at a lot of south county's games in
> detail, a lot of them are very poorly reffed...
> Refs calling completely rediculous calls only on
> south county's side of the ball. South county's
> offensive line is one of the most sound offensive
> lines I've seen in a while
> Other than size. south county's offense backs and
> quarterback are also the real deal. It seems to
> me (being a highschool football analyst for over
> 15 years now) that south county is the real deal..
> Don't sleep on them, I promise you their a team
> that is hungry to show the state who they really
> are. Their defense slacks in some places, which is
> all fixable. I believe that if south county
> defense gets it together south county will be able
> to go all the way.
This is too accurate. The refs have it out for the oline due to physical play. Finishing blocks and pancakes are viewed as penalties. The offense is also very dynamic mixing the triple option with great spread plays. This is a true playoff contender!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
No $hit, sherlock.
()
Date: October 23, 2013 11:56AM
"In football dumbass"
So why did you mention baseball, dumbass?
So why did you mention baseball, dumbass?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: October 23, 2013 12:33PM
So if South County gets their defense fixed and the refs stop calling all bad games on them, they could win it all.
South County has played 5 sub-500 teams and lost to one of the two over-.500 teams and probably should have lost to the other. I will say that they score immensley on each team but their defense, which got them to the state finals two years ago, will fail them this year. Doubt they will make it to Thanksgiving weekend
Next week, Lake Braddock is the test. LB has 4 shutouts to 2-5 teams or worse. While impressive, they gave up many points to a quality WF team. That will definitely be the game of week 10.
South County has played 5 sub-500 teams and lost to one of the two over-.500 teams and probably should have lost to the other. I will say that they score immensley on each team but their defense, which got them to the state finals two years ago, will fail them this year. Doubt they will make it to Thanksgiving weekend
Next week, Lake Braddock is the test. LB has 4 shutouts to 2-5 teams or worse. While impressive, they gave up many points to a quality WF team. That will definitely be the game of week 10.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 23, 2013 12:59PM
Who are you all kidding? South County runs that hurry up offense that is aided to a great extent by the refs. Those old and overweight refs hustle so hard to get the ball spotted for SoCo they don't even have time to check men on the field, illegal formations and motion. SoCo is frequently snapping the ball with multiple players moving at the line of scrimmage or not set and it is never called. I think the refs are afraid of Panonni - I've seen line judges way out of position when the ball was snapped because they are in such a hurry aid Soco to quick snap.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Justathought
()
Date: October 23, 2013 01:16PM
Everybody is aware that the only requirement to be a VHSL official is to be at least 18 yrs. or older. Im not saying that its the rule and not the exception but I would bet that a lot of those refs never really played high school ball or coached it and took up being a ref as a means to get closer to the game as a spectator. This, in my mind, would greatly contribute to the absurd amount of penalties SoCo has received so far. But, it could also be that SoCo really does commit that many penalties in a game.
Justathought
Justathought
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jaxk
()
Date: October 23, 2013 01:18PM
Soco has like 400 yards of holding penalties in the last 2 weekse
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
high school ref
()
Date: October 23, 2013 01:39PM
I agree some of my ref colleagues either never played or played long ago and probably were not that good. Some of our refs call holding when O-lineman pancake kids after the RB is already past them. I think they want the kids to not completely destroy a kid that has little chance of making a play on a RB 10 to 20 yards down field. Also some of my guys call holding when Lineman grab a little cloth inside the numbers area and some allow the hands inside the numbers as long as the O-line releases when the defender attempts to pull away. We are taught to call when they get their hands outside the shoulders. in all honesty we could call holding on almost every play there is usually a little at first contact but some players are quicker at releasing or disguising.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: October 23, 2013 03:40PM
It was not my intent to ref-bash. It's a thankless task and in the end someone has to do it. I appreciate the guys who are willing despite the endless abuse.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: October 23, 2013 06:40PM
RydellRoad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who are you all kidding? South County runs that
> hurry up offense that is aided to a great extent
> by the refs. Those old and overweight refs hustle
> so hard to get the ball spotted for SoCo they
> don't even have time to check men on the field,
> illegal formations and motion. SoCo is frequently
> snapping the ball with multiple players moving at
> the line of scrimmage or not set and it is never
> called. I think the refs are afraid of Panonni -
> I've seen line judges way out of position when the
> ball was snapped because they are in such a hurry
> aid Soco to quick snap.
Actually you are wrong on that. SC does run an uptempo offense (which frequently tires out a defense - Chantilly D was panting with hands on knees at times in that game), and it is often ready and waiting at the line of scrimmage for the umpire to set the ball and the ref to blow the whistle. I've seen illegal motion with SC maybe once or twice this season. The refs actually slow them down many times. What I have seen them have problem with is holding, especially on the back side of a play. If they can teach their OL line to engage properly and let go when the play has gone by, they will be alright. Even with all these penalties, they score a lot. They SHOULD have won the TC game (but by a lot larger margin), and they SHOULD have won the Chantilly game. I would love to see a rematch with Chantilly in the playoffs.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who are you all kidding? South County runs that
> hurry up offense that is aided to a great extent
> by the refs. Those old and overweight refs hustle
> so hard to get the ball spotted for SoCo they
> don't even have time to check men on the field,
> illegal formations and motion. SoCo is frequently
> snapping the ball with multiple players moving at
> the line of scrimmage or not set and it is never
> called. I think the refs are afraid of Panonni -
> I've seen line judges way out of position when the
> ball was snapped because they are in such a hurry
> aid Soco to quick snap.
Actually you are wrong on that. SC does run an uptempo offense (which frequently tires out a defense - Chantilly D was panting with hands on knees at times in that game), and it is often ready and waiting at the line of scrimmage for the umpire to set the ball and the ref to blow the whistle. I've seen illegal motion with SC maybe once or twice this season. The refs actually slow them down many times. What I have seen them have problem with is holding, especially on the back side of a play. If they can teach their OL line to engage properly and let go when the play has gone by, they will be alright. Even with all these penalties, they score a lot. They SHOULD have won the TC game (but by a lot larger margin), and they SHOULD have won the Chantilly game. I would love to see a rematch with Chantilly in the playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Thatguy
()
Date: October 24, 2013 12:26AM
To anyone who still cares about WS, well we're doing about as well as can be expected for a team who lost at least 3 D1 athletes last year and left little to no one behind. As far as I can tell, we have some decent kids but that keeps getting overshadowed by the fact that almost every team we've played so far has had one or two amazing players on top of an already well rounded team. It would also help if the coaches could make decisions about anything, half the time they're either yelling at the kids for something another coach said or yelling at each other. Honestly I just can't wait for the season to be over, at least we wont have to worry about it going longer than usual, though knowing us we'll find a way to lose to Woodson just in case we ever thought we had a chance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
PAYK
()
Date: October 24, 2013 07:44AM
The only reason soco lost the chantilly game was the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top four runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
A coach
()
Date: October 24, 2013 09:27AM
The refs are the only sane one's out there. At least they are getting paid.
And before you jump on that, yes, I know, coaches get paid as well. My first year I think it worked out to 37 cents an hour. Ooooh, I think I can retire now.
As for SoCo, they get flagged a lot because they commit a lot of penalties. It's cause and effect. They also have been "Braddockized" in that they see no issue with throwing deep or going for two when they are up 35-40 points. That type of stuff tends to linger long in coaches memories and paybacks will be sweet . . .
And before you jump on that, yes, I know, coaches get paid as well. My first year I think it worked out to 37 cents an hour. Ooooh, I think I can retire now.
As for SoCo, they get flagged a lot because they commit a lot of penalties. It's cause and effect. They also have been "Braddockized" in that they see no issue with throwing deep or going for two when they are up 35-40 points. That type of stuff tends to linger long in coaches memories and paybacks will be sweet . . .
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??????
()
Date: October 24, 2013 10:59AM
When has soco done that this year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
random football question
()
Date: October 24, 2013 11:13AM
I have daughters so while I go to a lot of HS football games I don't have kids directly involved in it. For all the HS football experts out there I was wondering in general how much of an indicator of future success is the success of HS freshmen and JV football teams?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ricky
()
Date: October 24, 2013 11:39AM
There's not really a translation some schools bring up their best players from those grades and play varsity and others just dominate on fresh/jv
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:17PM
PAYK Wrote:
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> The only reason soco lost the chantilly game was
> the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top four
> runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
The SC secondary also got beat several times on critical plays during Chantilly's comeback in the 4th qtr. Most of the game, SoCo was dominating on the ground and controlling the ball, even with two of the three starting running backs out. SoCo still could have won the game with a field goal on their final drive, except the ref did not call an obvious offsides foul by a blister, who blindsided the SC QB for a fumble. The calls were definitely mostly one-sided in that game.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The only reason soco lost the chantilly game was
> the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top four
> runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
The SC secondary also got beat several times on critical plays during Chantilly's comeback in the 4th qtr. Most of the game, SoCo was dominating on the ground and controlling the ball, even with two of the three starting running backs out. SoCo still could have won the game with a field goal on their final drive, except the ref did not call an obvious offsides foul by a blister, who blindsided the SC QB for a fumble. The calls were definitely mostly one-sided in that game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:19PM
blitzer
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 24, 2013 10:07PM
RootBoy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> PAYK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only reason soco lost the chantilly game
> was
> > the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top four
> > runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
>
> The SC secondary also got beat several times on
> critical plays during Chantilly's comeback in the
> 4th qtr. Most of the game, SoCo was dominating on
> the ground and controlling the ball, even with two
> of the three starting running backs out. SoCo
> still could have won the game with a field goal on
> their final drive, except the ref did not call an
> obvious offsides foul by a blister, who blindsided
> the SC QB for a fumble. The calls were definitely
> mostly one-sided in that game.
These South County excuses are comical. Chantilly's starting running back didn't play in the game either, it's all about who was there. Then that offside sack-fumble was not an offside, go back and look at the Gameday Magazine Top 10 plays for that week and there is video evidence that play was clean as anything.
I look forward to the excuses next week when you get steam-rolled by Lake Braddock.
-------------------------------------------------------
> PAYK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only reason soco lost the chantilly game
> was
> > the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top four
> > runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
>
> The SC secondary also got beat several times on
> critical plays during Chantilly's comeback in the
> 4th qtr. Most of the game, SoCo was dominating on
> the ground and controlling the ball, even with two
> of the three starting running backs out. SoCo
> still could have won the game with a field goal on
> their final drive, except the ref did not call an
> obvious offsides foul by a blister, who blindsided
> the SC QB for a fumble. The calls were definitely
> mostly one-sided in that game.
These South County excuses are comical. Chantilly's starting running back didn't play in the game either, it's all about who was there. Then that offside sack-fumble was not an offside, go back and look at the Gameday Magazine Top 10 plays for that week and there is video evidence that play was clean as anything.
I look forward to the excuses next week when you get steam-rolled by Lake Braddock.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 24, 2013 10:13PM
So what this new playoff thing means, in the simplest language I can give you, is that the 6A North group will hold a 4-week long, 16-team, single-elimination playoff and crown a 6A North champion (although there is NO regional trophy given for this win?!!) and then that winner will play the 6A South champion in the state title game. Under this plan, the 6A North group and the 6A South group title games are essentially the state semifinals. The same deal goes for the 5A North and South title games.
The rounds have been given silly names. Here goes for 5A North and 6A North:
First round (Sixteen Teams) -- Nov. 15, 2013
Second Round (Eight Teams) -- Nov. 22, 2013
Third Round (Region Quarterfinals) -- Nov. 29, 2013
VHSL State Semifinals (i.e., Region Final) -- Dec. 6, 2013
VHSL State Championships -- Dec. 14, 2013 at UVA in Charlottesville
If your head hurts, don't read any further. Mine does too. I will now start talking about the playoffs for the teams outside the Fairfax area.
In the 5A and 6A South Regions, The football teams have been playing in assigned conferences (the only teams in the state to do so?!!), of which only the top EIGHT teams will be going to a shortened 3-week playoff (i.e., they have one less game to play than our teams in the north to reach the title game against us). Annoying, yes?
The group 4A teams, north and south, will have the same 16-team playoff I described in the beginning. Moving on.
The 1A, 2A, and 3A teams will play a modified 16-team playoff with a catch. The cross bracket semifinals means that, for example, the 16-team 3A East playoffs will not crown a 3A East champion but when two teams remain, they will then face the final two teams from 3A West in the semifinals. Under this plan a state final could include two teams from 3A East.
I think that covers everything.
The rounds have been given silly names. Here goes for 5A North and 6A North:
First round (Sixteen Teams) -- Nov. 15, 2013
Second Round (Eight Teams) -- Nov. 22, 2013
Third Round (Region Quarterfinals) -- Nov. 29, 2013
VHSL State Semifinals (i.e., Region Final) -- Dec. 6, 2013
VHSL State Championships -- Dec. 14, 2013 at UVA in Charlottesville
If your head hurts, don't read any further. Mine does too. I will now start talking about the playoffs for the teams outside the Fairfax area.
In the 5A and 6A South Regions, The football teams have been playing in assigned conferences (the only teams in the state to do so?!!), of which only the top EIGHT teams will be going to a shortened 3-week playoff (i.e., they have one less game to play than our teams in the north to reach the title game against us). Annoying, yes?
The group 4A teams, north and south, will have the same 16-team playoff I described in the beginning. Moving on.
The 1A, 2A, and 3A teams will play a modified 16-team playoff with a catch. The cross bracket semifinals means that, for example, the 16-team 3A East playoffs will not crown a 3A East champion but when two teams remain, they will then face the final two teams from 3A West in the semifinals. Under this plan a state final could include two teams from 3A East.
I think that covers everything.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: October 24, 2013 10:17PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> RootBoy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > PAYK Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The only reason soco lost the chantilly game
> > was
> > > the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top
> four
> > > runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
> >
> > The SC secondary also got beat several times on
> > critical plays during Chantilly's comeback in
> the
> > 4th qtr. Most of the game, SoCo was dominating
> on
> > the ground and controlling the ball, even with
> two
> > of the three starting running backs out. SoCo
> > still could have won the game with a field goal
> on
> > their final drive, except the ref did not call
> an
> > obvious offsides foul by a blister, who
> blindsided
> > the SC QB for a fumble. The calls were
> definitely
> > mostly one-sided in that game.
>
>
> These South County excuses are comical.
> Chantilly's starting running back didn't play in
> the game either, it's all about who was there.
> Then that offside sack-fumble was not an offside,
> go back and look at the Gameday Magazine Top 10
> plays for that week and there is video evidence
> that play was clean as anything.
>
> I look forward to the excuses next week when you
> get steam-rolled by Lake Braddock.
The Chantilly player was in the neutral zone when the ball was snapped. Whatever. It's high school football. You take what you get, with the players you have on the field, the refs you have on the field, bad calls included. We'll see who gets steamrolled bright boy.
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> RootBoy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > PAYK Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The only reason soco lost the chantilly game
> > was
> > > the fact that soco had lost 3 of their top
> four
> > > runningbacks to injury, one who plays defense
> >
> > The SC secondary also got beat several times on
> > critical plays during Chantilly's comeback in
> the
> > 4th qtr. Most of the game, SoCo was dominating
> on
> > the ground and controlling the ball, even with
> two
> > of the three starting running backs out. SoCo
> > still could have won the game with a field goal
> on
> > their final drive, except the ref did not call
> an
> > obvious offsides foul by a blister, who
> blindsided
> > the SC QB for a fumble. The calls were
> definitely
> > mostly one-sided in that game.
>
>
> These South County excuses are comical.
> Chantilly's starting running back didn't play in
> the game either, it's all about who was there.
> Then that offside sack-fumble was not an offside,
> go back and look at the Gameday Magazine Top 10
> plays for that week and there is video evidence
> that play was clean as anything.
>
> I look forward to the excuses next week when you
> get steam-rolled by Lake Braddock.
The Chantilly player was in the neutral zone when the ball was snapped. Whatever. It's high school football. You take what you get, with the players you have on the field, the refs you have on the field, bad calls included. We'll see who gets steamrolled bright boy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tonight's fun
()
Date: October 25, 2013 08:14AM
I'll be driving up to watch Chantilly play against Yorktown tonight, I think that will be the most interesting and fun to watch game in the area, although you might make a case for Lake Braddock and T.C. Williams.
What great games are people going to watch tonight?
What great games are people going to watch tonight?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yorktown Fan
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Date: October 25, 2013 08:41AM
MJ Stewart is a game time decision and without him Chantilly should win easily.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sat
()
Date: October 25, 2013 09:06AM
tonight's fun Wrote:
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> I'll be driving up to watch Chantilly play against
> Yorktown tonight, I think that will be the most
> interesting and fun to watch game in the area,
> although you might make a case for Lake Braddock
> and T.C. Williams.
>
> What great games are people going to watch
> tonight?
The LB and TC game is Sat at 3pm
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> I'll be driving up to watch Chantilly play against
> Yorktown tonight, I think that will be the most
> interesting and fun to watch game in the area,
> although you might make a case for Lake Braddock
> and T.C. Williams.
>
> What great games are people going to watch
> tonight?
The LB and TC game is Sat at 3pm
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
trey
()
Date: October 25, 2013 10:53AM
no MJ & the game costs $6? anndddd it's gonna be cold? ill pass..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartanjoke
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Date: October 25, 2013 11:36AM
The WS supporters- and more importantly and sadly the players are victims of vapid leadership in the admin at WS- from the DSS to the 'coaches'. They have had good freshmen coaches and teams but when they get to the jv and varsity 'coaches' they disappear. Kids only have 4 years to play high school football and the clowns that do not want to (can't) improve the environment at WS will continue to miss out on great experiences. Wins and losses are a small part of the problem- leadership and character are sorely lacking. Getting thrown out of a jv game you are not even coaching in? Really? Should have been fired on the spot. Didn't think the principal could be less effective than the last but it is much worse. Until FCPS steps in and makes changes people will have to hear 'what the hell is happening to West Springfield?' everywhere they go.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
a coach
()
Date: October 25, 2013 12:00PM
"Getting thrown out of a jv game you are not even coaching in?"
What and when was this?
What and when was this?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
marshall at new low
()
Date: October 25, 2013 07:18PM
Someone check my math, but isn't this 20 losses in a row for that sorry excuse for a team over at Marshall? It seems they have found a way to hit rock bottom and still keep digging.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TJ FAN2
()
Date: October 25, 2013 08:32PM
Wow, this Langley-TJ game is getting very out of hand. 48-0 early in the 2nd. TJ is a 4-3 football team, with a couple 40 point wins of their own. Didn't expect them to be very close against Langley, but they're getting drubbed.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TVGTY
()
Date: October 25, 2013 09:56PM
Chantilly falls to Yorktown without MJ Stewart, 30-28. Tough loss for the Chargers who finish with red hot Robinson and Westfield.
The win would have given them a considerable jump in power points, now, very realistically they may be looking at a 13-16 seed in the playoffs.
The win would have given them a considerable jump in power points, now, very realistically they may be looking at a 13-16 seed in the playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Off Week
()
Date: October 25, 2013 10:13PM
Not looking to be one of stevek2's better weeks in terms of predictions or spreads.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: October 25, 2013 10:17PM
steve is the man, we all have off weeks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TheFan
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Date: October 25, 2013 11:27PM
South County's secondary is absolutely horrible. Couldn't even stop a pathetic Woodson offense that consisted of quick fades and slants. This needs to be fixed or they'll have no shot at lake Braddock next week
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: October 25, 2013 11:33PM
did soco win?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hs
()
Date: October 25, 2013 11:33PM
The Refs hate soco
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
G-4
()
Date: October 25, 2013 11:34PM
Yeah 42-17
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Chuck Bable
()
Date: October 25, 2013 11:36PM
Can easily agree with that, but once again offensively they dominated the ball.If south county has any sense they will invest in using some of their athletes in the deffensive back field. Once again one of the worst officiated games I have seen. The referees continue to just tack on ridiculously absurd penalties. But still a very solid showing from south county. Next week will be a great game
To watch
To watch
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Itk
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Date: October 25, 2013 11:39PM
#2 on soco got injured the 2nd drive and he is their best db
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
?????
()
Date: October 25, 2013 11:42PM
What were scores????
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jagneck
()
Date: October 26, 2013 12:05AM
Falls Church beats Edison 49-26, the Jags are now 6-2!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Someone
()
Date: October 26, 2013 06:41AM
The refs penalized sc because they came out late because the ref had told them that they had 5 more minutes at halftime
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Stallion not Italian
()
Date: October 26, 2013 08:56AM
SOCO did not impress this scout. LB should win next week in a romp... something like 55 - 21. SOCO has issues on defense. Need to improve against the pass. LB will pass & score at will. LB will shut down SOCO option pitch sweep (WTW did not). SOCO will most likely hurt themselves with holding penalties (I lost count against WTW); not to mention the many uncalled holding and crack back block penalties. SOCO has serious player and coach composure issues (from coach to player for all to hear: "Get your a-- off the field!!!) As a result, several personal fouls called against them. SOCO lacks a coherent passing game. LB will have a pick six for sure. SOCO's offense is no huddle/muddle, and it wore down WTW which plays many players both ways. LB will not be stressed. SOCO goes for it most times on 4th and under ten. Will backfire against a good team. SOCO has a solid kicking game... low kicks to goal line and kicker will make 40 and under FGs. SOCO plays man to man tight coverage on the outside, thus can be beat on flys, fades, and back shoulder throws. Also can be beat on quick slant. Pass rush is OK, but d-line weak against QB draw/delay/scramble.
On a side note, I was surprised by overall lack of Friday night football sprit/enthusiasm at SOCO. Last reg season home game on Senior Night and the home stands were half full (and its a smallish bleacher). You'd think a 7 - 1 team with a recent history of success would have more support.
On a side note, I was surprised by overall lack of Friday night football sprit/enthusiasm at SOCO. Last reg season home game on Senior Night and the home stands were half full (and its a smallish bleacher). You'd think a 7 - 1 team with a recent history of success would have more support.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Woodson Fan
()
Date: October 26, 2013 01:19PM
I see a lot of SOCO hate on this board. We (woodson) are not a very good team but we have a good wide receiver and our QB just was doing quick 1 or 3 step drops and throwing with some success in 1st half.. Caught soco off guard a little in first half. in 2nd half SOCO pressed receivers and completely shut us down. We only had 3 completions in the 2nd half and like 11 yards passing in the 2nd half. SOCO also shut down our run and dominated us in the 2nd half. SOCO does have a couple good DBs but it look like they were playing inside with those guys in the 1st half to stop the wing t. There 1 CB that covered our best WR in 2nd half is legit. I think all of the neg talk about how bad soco is may help Lake braddock take them lightly. Looking forward to hearing how that game turns out. If braddock wins no big deal they are favored.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ludwig
()
Date: October 26, 2013 01:32PM
Need scores?? Can't wait?? Well here ya go...........
http://www.maxpreps.com/scoreboard/football/state/virginia.htm
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2013 01:32PM by Ludwig.
http://www.maxpreps.com/scoreboard/football/state/virginia.htm
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2013 01:32PM by Ludwig.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 26, 2013 04:18PM
Here's a list of game finals from Friday the 25th (last night).
Battlefield 14, Osbourn Park 10
Briar Woods 43, Park View 0
Broad Run 55, Potomac Falls 0
Centreville 53, Washington-Lee 7
Clarke County 33, Manassas Park 6
Fairfax 51, Marshall 22
Falls Church 49, Edison 26
Forest Park 49, Gar-Field 0
George Mason 42, William Monroe 26
Hayfield 40, Mount Vernon 16
C.D. Hylton 34, Freedom-Woodbridge 0
Kettle Run 35, Brentsville 13
Langley 62, Jefferson 7
Loudoun County 17, John Champe 0
Loudoun Valley 41, Heritage 0
McLean 42, Madison 7
Robinson 41, Oakton 21
South County 42, W.T. Woodson 17
Stone Bridge 41, South Lakes 13
Stonewall Jackson 21, Osbourn 7
Stuart 41, Wakefield 7
West Potomac 51, Lee 38
West Springfield 17, Annandale 14
Westfield 62, Herndon 28
Woodbridge 27, Potomac 0
Woodgrove 38, Dominion 0
Yorktown 30, Chantilly 28
Battlefield 14, Osbourn Park 10
Briar Woods 43, Park View 0
Broad Run 55, Potomac Falls 0
Centreville 53, Washington-Lee 7
Clarke County 33, Manassas Park 6
Fairfax 51, Marshall 22
Falls Church 49, Edison 26
Forest Park 49, Gar-Field 0
George Mason 42, William Monroe 26
Hayfield 40, Mount Vernon 16
C.D. Hylton 34, Freedom-Woodbridge 0
Kettle Run 35, Brentsville 13
Langley 62, Jefferson 7
Loudoun County 17, John Champe 0
Loudoun Valley 41, Heritage 0
McLean 42, Madison 7
Robinson 41, Oakton 21
South County 42, W.T. Woodson 17
Stone Bridge 41, South Lakes 13
Stonewall Jackson 21, Osbourn 7
Stuart 41, Wakefield 7
West Potomac 51, Lee 38
West Springfield 17, Annandale 14
Westfield 62, Herndon 28
Woodbridge 27, Potomac 0
Woodgrove 38, Dominion 0
Yorktown 30, Chantilly 28
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Joe Gibbs
()
Date: October 26, 2013 04:19PM
Here's an honest question for all those local HS football fans. Will the WTW Head Football Coach get fired after this season? How often do coaches have 3 straight 1-9 or 2-8 seasons and still keep their job as football coach? 5 wins TOTAL in 3 seasons is bad even for WTW... So the question is - Does he stay or does he go at the end of the season???
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The General
()
Date: October 26, 2013 04:50PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Here's a list of game finals from Friday the 25th
> (last night).
>
> Battlefield 14, Osbourn Park 10
> Briar Woods 43, Park View 0
> Broad Run 55, Potomac Falls 0
> Centreville 53, Washington-Lee 7
> Clarke County 33, Manassas Park 6
> Fairfax 51, Marshall 22
> Falls Church 49, Edison 26
> Forest Park 49, Gar-Field 0
> George Mason 42, William Monroe 26
> Hayfield 40, Mount Vernon 16
> C.D. Hylton 34, Freedom-Woodbridge 0
> Kettle Run 35, Brentsville 13
> Langley 62, Jefferson 7
> Loudoun County 17, John Champe 0
> Loudoun Valley 41, Heritage 0
> McLean 42, Madison 7
> Robinson 41, Oakton 21
> South County 42, W.T. Woodson 17
> Stone Bridge 41, South Lakes 13
> Stonewall Jackson 21, Osbourn 7
> Stuart 41, Wakefield 7
> West Potomac 51, Lee 38
> West Springfield 17, Annandale 14
> Westfield 62, Herndon 28
> Woodbridge 27, Potomac 0
> Woodgrove 38, Dominion 0
> Yorktown 30, Chantilly 28
Thanks for this. Looks like those who thought the Chantilly-Yorktown game would be one of the best games yesterday were right.
Surprised that Langley, McLean and Stuart all won by such big margins last night.
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> Here's a list of game finals from Friday the 25th
> (last night).
>
> Battlefield 14, Osbourn Park 10
> Briar Woods 43, Park View 0
> Broad Run 55, Potomac Falls 0
> Centreville 53, Washington-Lee 7
> Clarke County 33, Manassas Park 6
> Fairfax 51, Marshall 22
> Falls Church 49, Edison 26
> Forest Park 49, Gar-Field 0
> George Mason 42, William Monroe 26
> Hayfield 40, Mount Vernon 16
> C.D. Hylton 34, Freedom-Woodbridge 0
> Kettle Run 35, Brentsville 13
> Langley 62, Jefferson 7
> Loudoun County 17, John Champe 0
> Loudoun Valley 41, Heritage 0
> McLean 42, Madison 7
> Robinson 41, Oakton 21
> South County 42, W.T. Woodson 17
> Stone Bridge 41, South Lakes 13
> Stonewall Jackson 21, Osbourn 7
> Stuart 41, Wakefield 7
> West Potomac 51, Lee 38
> West Springfield 17, Annandale 14
> Westfield 62, Herndon 28
> Woodbridge 27, Potomac 0
> Woodgrove 38, Dominion 0
> Yorktown 30, Chantilly 28
Thanks for this. Looks like those who thought the Chantilly-Yorktown game would be one of the best games yesterday were right.
Surprised that Langley, McLean and Stuart all won by such big margins last night.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TC Williams v LB?
()
Date: October 26, 2013 04:56PM
Score for TC Williams v Lake Braddock?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Saturday Afternoon Fan
()
Date: October 26, 2013 04:56PM
At the TC LB game. Second Half just started. 31-0
LB. Gerry Panoni is here a few rows away, and he's shitting a
brick.
LB. Gerry Panoni is here a few rows away, and he's shitting a
brick.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Barry Newman
()
Date: October 26, 2013 06:04PM
Does anyone know whats going on with Mount Vernon and their season? (if anyone even cares lol) as a mv alumni and being away from the community for awhile i just want to know why my team keeps losing, 40-16 Loss vs hayfield wow
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DC76
()
Date: October 26, 2013 06:35PM
Thanks for the sportsmanship from the Langley coaches who continued to play Casso into the 4th quarter with a 50+ point lead
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: October 26, 2013 06:39PM
Modarn Man Wrote:
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> Ocean Lakes football team is half black half
> white. Kellam is like 2/3 white. Cox is mostly all
> white. No one up here knows anything about the
> beach schools except that they are good. really
> good. And that's the truth.
Your back up is right here--proud to be from the beach and have come to love the football up here, too. Schools are bigger up here but you see a lot of players from both places on college rosters. Saw Yorktown beat SoCo in last year's D5 playoffs and it reminded me of a typical game at the beach. Speed and intensity comparable. Phoebus was down last hear but I was still surprised to see Lake Taylor spank them and beat Stone Bridge at UVA. This year, I saw LB up here beat Westfield and can see why people like LB's O.
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> Ocean Lakes football team is half black half
> white. Kellam is like 2/3 white. Cox is mostly all
> white. No one up here knows anything about the
> beach schools except that they are good. really
> good. And that's the truth.
Your back up is right here--proud to be from the beach and have come to love the football up here, too. Schools are bigger up here but you see a lot of players from both places on college rosters. Saw Yorktown beat SoCo in last year's D5 playoffs and it reminded me of a typical game at the beach. Speed and intensity comparable. Phoebus was down last hear but I was still surprised to see Lake Taylor spank them and beat Stone Bridge at UVA. This year, I saw LB up here beat Westfield and can see why people like LB's O.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: October 26, 2013 06:47PM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Oscar Smith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ain't no way these high schools up here are
> going
> > to beat one of those high schools from the
> Beach
> > area.
>
> Why would you say that? A "Beach" team has only
> won 3 of the last 17 state titles. During that
> same time period "NOVA" teams have won 12.
So u aren't counting Phoebus and its titles? Ask Stone Bridge about Phoebus. Then take a look at who plays in college and how well they do. The beach schools are smaller but still play good FB. It's stupid for anybody to say that teams from NOVA or the beach can't play.
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> Oscar Smith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ain't no way these high schools up here are
> going
> > to beat one of those high schools from the
> Beach
> > area.
>
> Why would you say that? A "Beach" team has only
> won 3 of the last 17 state titles. During that
> same time period "NOVA" teams have won 12.
So u aren't counting Phoebus and its titles? Ask Stone Bridge about Phoebus. Then take a look at who plays in college and how well they do. The beach schools are smaller but still play good FB. It's stupid for anybody to say that teams from NOVA or the beach can't play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Harry D
()
Date: October 26, 2013 06:53PM
LB 44, TC Williams 0 - Can't believe LB shutout a very talented and athletic TC team even though I knew LB was going to win
And Mount Vernon is actually not that bad. Their only losses have came against quality teams.
And Mount Vernon is actually not that bad. Their only losses have came against quality teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OWH73
()
Date: October 26, 2013 07:14PM
DC76 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the sportsmanship from the Langley
> coaches who continued to play Casso into the 4th
> quarter with a 50+ point lead
Langley was up 55-0 at the half and the second half was 7-7. So I'd say Langley does deserve good sportsmanship credit for dialing it back in the second half against TJ.
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> Thanks for the sportsmanship from the Langley
> coaches who continued to play Casso into the 4th
> quarter with a 50+ point lead
Langley was up 55-0 at the half and the second half was 7-7. So I'd say Langley does deserve good sportsmanship credit for dialing it back in the second half against TJ.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: October 26, 2013 07:31PM
Football Fever Wrote:
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> So if South County gets their defense fixed and
> the refs stop calling all bad games on them, they
> could win it all.
>
> South County has played 5 sub-500 teams and lost
> to one of the two over-.500 teams and probably
> should have lost to the other. I will say that
> they score immensley on each team but their
> defense, which got them to the state finals two
> years ago, will fail them this year. Doubt they
> will make it to Thanksgiving weekend
>
> Next week, Lake Braddock is the test. LB has 4
> shutouts to 2-5 teams or worse. While impressive,
> they gave up many points to a quality WF team.
> That will definitely be the game of week 10.
Soco's state final team was right after the team moved from D6 to D5. SoCo has never had success in D6 playoffs. What about this year? Good so far, but they did lose to Chantilly, which just lost to Yorktown even though Stewart sat. SoCo is on the way up but will probably struggle with LB. Then again, who wouldn't?
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> So if South County gets their defense fixed and
> the refs stop calling all bad games on them, they
> could win it all.
>
> South County has played 5 sub-500 teams and lost
> to one of the two over-.500 teams and probably
> should have lost to the other. I will say that
> they score immensley on each team but their
> defense, which got them to the state finals two
> years ago, will fail them this year. Doubt they
> will make it to Thanksgiving weekend
>
> Next week, Lake Braddock is the test. LB has 4
> shutouts to 2-5 teams or worse. While impressive,
> they gave up many points to a quality WF team.
> That will definitely be the game of week 10.
Soco's state final team was right after the team moved from D6 to D5. SoCo has never had success in D6 playoffs. What about this year? Good so far, but they did lose to Chantilly, which just lost to Yorktown even though Stewart sat. SoCo is on the way up but will probably struggle with LB. Then again, who wouldn't?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 26, 2013 09:01PM
Barry Newman Wrote:
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> Does anyone know whats going on with Mount Vernon
> and their season? (if anyone even cares lol) as a
> mv alumni and being away from the community for
> awhile i just want to know why my team keeps
> losing, 40-16 Loss vs hayfield wow
Mount Vernon is poised to probably finish the season at a respectable 4-6 (they are 3-5 now) and that record is good enough for them to comfortably enter into the Group 5A North playoffs as a double-digit seed. There is nothing atrociously bad about the team, and a loss to neighboring school and rival? Hayfield is nothing to cry over.
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> Does anyone know whats going on with Mount Vernon
> and their season? (if anyone even cares lol) as a
> mv alumni and being away from the community for
> awhile i just want to know why my team keeps
> losing, 40-16 Loss vs hayfield wow
Mount Vernon is poised to probably finish the season at a respectable 4-6 (they are 3-5 now) and that record is good enough for them to comfortably enter into the Group 5A North playoffs as a double-digit seed. There is nothing atrociously bad about the team, and a loss to neighboring school and rival? Hayfield is nothing to cry over.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Lies
()
Date: October 26, 2013 09:47PM
that is not true casso came out at after one drive in the 3rd quarter, not the coachs fault T.J. let 55 points in the first half
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ryan
()
Date: October 26, 2013 09:53PM
since 10/31/08 Marshall has won 4 games....yes 4.. wow lol
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Barry Newman
()
Date: October 26, 2013 09:57PM
Assuming mount Vernon loses to Yorktown and they beat Wakefield , they will make playoffs?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Secretary of Defense
()
Date: October 26, 2013 10:05PM
You best believe Braddock is for real dawg!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: October 26, 2013 10:19PM
centreville will kill lake braddock in the playoffs
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 26, 2013 10:29PM
Here are the official district standings for the teams in the Fairfax area through week nine of the season, with just two weeks of play left on the regular season schedule.
Cardinal District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
-----------------------------------------------
#1. Cecil D. Hylton (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 7-1 district, 7-1 overall
#2. Forest Park (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 6-2 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Patriot (Nokesville, 6A-North) -- 6-2 district, 6-2 overall
#4. Battlefield (Haymarket, 6A-North) -- 6-3 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Woodbridge (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 5-3 district, 5-3 overall
#6. Stonewall Jackson (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 5-4 district, 5-4 overall
#7. Potomac (Dumfries, 5A-North) -- 3-5 district, 3-5 overall
#7. Freedom (Woodbridge, 5A-North) -- 3-5 district, 3-5 overall
#9. Osbourn Park (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-6 district, 2-6 overall
#9. Osbourn (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-6 district, 2-6 overall
#11. Gar-Field (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 0-8 district, 0-8 overall
Commonwealth District **CHAMPION: MASSAPONAX**
----------------------------------------------------
#1. Massaponax (Fredericksburg, 5A-North) -- 5-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. North Stafford (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 3-2 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Mountain View (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-3 overall
#4. Colonial Forge (Stafford, 6A-South) -- 2-2 district, 5-3 overall
#5. Riverbend (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-3 district, 5-3 overall
#6. Brooke Point (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-6 overall
#7. Stafford (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-3 district, 1-7 overall
Concorde District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
-------------------------------------------------
#1. Centreville (Clifton, 6A-North) -- 3-0 district, 8-0 overall
#2. Westfield (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-2 overall
#3. James W. Robinson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-2 overall
#4. Chantilly (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 5-3 overall
#5. Oakton (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-3 district, 4-4 overall
#6. Herndon (Herndon, 6A-North) -- 0-3 district, 1-7 overall
Liberty District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
------------------------------------------------
#1. Stone Bridge (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-2 overall
#2. Langley (McLean, 6A-North) -- 4-1 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Fairfax (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 4-1 district, 6-2 overall
#4. McLean (McLean, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 4-4 overall
#5. South Lakes (Reston, 6A-North) -- 2-3 district, 4-4 overall
#6. Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-3 district, 4-4 overall
#7. James Madison (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-5 district, 0-8 overall
#7. George C. Marshall (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 0-5 district, 0-8 overall
National District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
-------------------------------------------------
#1. Yorktown (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 7-1 overall
#2. Washington-Lee (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Falls Church (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 3-2 district, 6-2 overall
#4. Hayfield (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 3-5 overall
#5. Mount Vernon (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-3 district, 3-5 overall
#6. Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-6 overall
#6. J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-6 overall
#8. Wakefield (Arlington, 5A-North) -- 0-5 district, 2-6 overall
Patriot District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
------------------------------------------------
#1. Lake Braddock (Burke, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 8-0 overall
#2. South County (Lorton, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 7-1 overall
#3. Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 5-3 overall
#4. West Potomac (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 3-5 overall
#5. West Springfield (Springfield, 6A-North) -- 2-3 district, 3-5 overall
#6. Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 1-3 district, 1-7 overall
#7. Robert E. Lee (Springfield, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-6 overall
#8. Annandale (Annandale, 6A-North) -- 0-5 district, 1-7 overall
Potomac District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
------------------------------------------------
#1. Briar Woods (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 2-0 district, 7-1 overall
#2. Broad Run (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Tuscarora (Leesburg, 5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 7-1 overall
#4. Potomac Falls (Sterling, 5A-North) -- 1-2 district, 4-4 overall
#5. Freedom (South Riding, 5A-North) -- 0-2 district, 1-7 overall
Cardinal District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
-----------------------------------------------
#1. Cecil D. Hylton (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 7-1 district, 7-1 overall
#2. Forest Park (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 6-2 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Patriot (Nokesville, 6A-North) -- 6-2 district, 6-2 overall
#4. Battlefield (Haymarket, 6A-North) -- 6-3 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Woodbridge (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 5-3 district, 5-3 overall
#6. Stonewall Jackson (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 5-4 district, 5-4 overall
#7. Potomac (Dumfries, 5A-North) -- 3-5 district, 3-5 overall
#7. Freedom (Woodbridge, 5A-North) -- 3-5 district, 3-5 overall
#9. Osbourn Park (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-6 district, 2-6 overall
#9. Osbourn (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-6 district, 2-6 overall
#11. Gar-Field (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 0-8 district, 0-8 overall
Commonwealth District **CHAMPION: MASSAPONAX**
----------------------------------------------------
#1. Massaponax (Fredericksburg, 5A-North) -- 5-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. North Stafford (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 3-2 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Mountain View (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-3 overall
#4. Colonial Forge (Stafford, 6A-South) -- 2-2 district, 5-3 overall
#5. Riverbend (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-3 district, 5-3 overall
#6. Brooke Point (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 2-6 overall
#7. Stafford (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-3 district, 1-7 overall
Concorde District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
-------------------------------------------------
#1. Centreville (Clifton, 6A-North) -- 3-0 district, 8-0 overall
#2. Westfield (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-2 overall
#3. James W. Robinson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-2 overall
#4. Chantilly (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 2-1 district, 5-3 overall
#5. Oakton (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-3 district, 4-4 overall
#6. Herndon (Herndon, 6A-North) -- 0-3 district, 1-7 overall
Liberty District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
------------------------------------------------
#1. Stone Bridge (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-2 overall
#2. Langley (McLean, 6A-North) -- 4-1 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Fairfax (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 4-1 district, 6-2 overall
#4. McLean (McLean, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 4-4 overall
#5. South Lakes (Reston, 6A-North) -- 2-3 district, 4-4 overall
#6. Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-3 district, 4-4 overall
#7. James Madison (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-5 district, 0-8 overall
#7. George C. Marshall (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 0-5 district, 0-8 overall
National District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
-------------------------------------------------
#1. Yorktown (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 7-1 overall
#2. Washington-Lee (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Falls Church (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 3-2 district, 6-2 overall
#4. Hayfield (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 3-5 overall
#5. Mount Vernon (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-3 district, 3-5 overall
#6. Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-6 overall
#6. J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-6 overall
#8. Wakefield (Arlington, 5A-North) -- 0-5 district, 2-6 overall
Patriot District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
------------------------------------------------
#1. Lake Braddock (Burke, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 8-0 overall
#2. South County (Lorton, 6A-North) -- 5-0 district, 7-1 overall
#3. Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 5-3 overall
#4. West Potomac (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 3-5 overall
#5. West Springfield (Springfield, 6A-North) -- 2-3 district, 3-5 overall
#6. Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 1-3 district, 1-7 overall
#7. Robert E. Lee (Springfield, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-6 overall
#8. Annandale (Annandale, 6A-North) -- 0-5 district, 1-7 overall
Potomac District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
------------------------------------------------
#1. Briar Woods (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 2-0 district, 7-1 overall
#2. Broad Run (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-2 overall
#3. Tuscarora (Leesburg, 5A-North) -- 1-1 district, 7-1 overall
#4. Potomac Falls (Sterling, 5A-North) -- 1-2 district, 4-4 overall
#5. Freedom (South Riding, 5A-North) -- 0-2 district, 1-7 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steven P
()
Date: October 26, 2013 10:31PM
After watching both LB and South County play, it is clear to me it will be a fantastic game. The offenses are pretty even in terms of talent, but I would certainly give the edge to SOCO. Lake Braddock's Defense is a lot more sound, however TC's receivers were getting behind the LB defense with ease....just didnt have accurate throws. I expect a high scoring game. LB could easily have 1-3 losses if it wasn't for an injured Joe Wilson (Robinson) and 2 game winning drives. SOCO has had problems getting up for games against weak opponents so that wont be a problem vs LB. SOCO was up 21-0 vs TC very early, but lost focus. LB is a lot more discipline than South County. If SOCO can cut out the penalties and the sloppy play vs LB, I like their chances.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 26, 2013 11:18PM
Here are the official playoff standings through week nine as posted by the Virginia High School League just a couple of hours ago.
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
--------------------------------------
Winner of the 6A North playoff will play winner of the 6A South for state title.
#1. Centreville (8-0) -- Rating: 34.75
#2. Lake Braddock (8-0) -- Rating: 33.63
#3. Westfield (6-2) -- Rating: 31.38
#4. Langley (6-2) -- Rating: 30.88
#5. South County (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
#6. Yorktown (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
#7. Washington-Lee (6-2) -- Rating: 29.50
#8. Patriot (6-2) -- Rating: 29.38
#9. Thomas C. Williams (5-3) -- Rating: 27.88
#10. Battlefield (6-3) -- Rating: 27.56
#11. Chantilly (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
#12. Fairfax (6-2) -- Rating: 27.50
#13. James W. Robinson (6-2) -- Rating: 27.25
#14. Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) -- Rating: 26.44
#15. South Lakes (4-4) -- Rating: 25.50
#16. Hayfield (3-5) -- Rating: 24.50
----------------------------------------------
TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
----------------------------------------------
#17. Oakton (4-4) -- Rating: 24.25
#18. McLean (4-4) -- Rating: 24.13
#19. West Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 24.13
#20. West Springfield (3-5) -- Rating: 22.88
#21. Osbourn Park (2-6) -- Rating: 22.25
#22. Osbourn (2-6) -- Rating: 22.13
#23. Wilburt T. Woodson (1-7) -- Rating: 20.63
#24. Herndon (1-7) -- Rating: 19.63
#25. Annandale (1-7) -- Rating: 19.38
#26. James Madison (0-8) -- Rating: 18.88
If the 6A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Hayfield (3-5) at #1 Centreville (8-0)
#15 South Lakes (4-4) at #2 Lake Braddock (8-0)
#14 Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) at #3 Westfield (6-2)
#13 James W. Robinson (6-2) at #4 Langley (6-2)
#12 Fairfax (6-2) at #5 South County (7-1)
#11 Chantilly (5-3) at #6 Yorktown (7-1)
#10 Battlefield (6-3) at #7 Washingtin-Lee (6-2)
#9 Thomas C. Williams (5-3) at #8 Patriot (6-2)
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
-----------------------------------
Winner of the 5A North playoff will play winner of the 5A South for state title.
#1. Massaponax (9-0) -- Rating: 33.11
#2. Tuscarora (7-1) -- Rating: 31.38
#3. Briar Woods (7-1) -- Rating: 29.50
#4. Stone Bridge (6-2) -- Rating: 29.25
#5. North Stafford (7-2) -- Rating: 29.11
#6. Broad Run (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
#7. Falls Church (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
#8. Mountain View (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
#9. Albemarle (5-3) -- Rating: 27.00
#10. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) -- Rating: 24.63
#11. Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 23.00
#12. Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) -- Rating: 22.75
#13. Mount Vernon (3-5) -- Rating: 22.50
#14. Potomac Falls (4-4) -- Rating: 21.63
#15. Robert E. Lee (2-6) -- Rating: 21.13
#16. Brooke Point (2-6) -- Rating: 20.63
----------------------------------------------
TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
----------------------------------------------
#17. Thomas A. Edison (2-6) -- Rating: 20.38
#18. J.E.B. Stuart (2-6) -- Rating: 19.50
#19. Patrick Henry-Ashland (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
#20. Wakefield (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
#21. Orange County (1-7) -- Rating: 18.13
#22. Freedom-Loudoun (1-7) -- Rating: 16.88
#23. Halifax County (1-7) -- Rating: 16.75
#24. George C. Marshall (0-8) -- Rating: 16.63
If the 5A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Brooke Point (2-6) at #1 Massaponax (9-0)
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-6) at #2 Tuscarora (7-1)
#14 Potomac Falls (4-4) at #3 Briar Woods (7-1)
#13 Mount Vernon (3-5) at #4 Stone Bridge (6-2)
#12 Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) at #5 North Stafford (7-2)
#11 Potomac (3-5) at #6 Broad Run (6-2)
#10 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) at #7 Falls Church (6-2)
#9 Albemarle (5-3) at #8 Mountain View (5-3)
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
--------------------------------------
Winner of the 6A North playoff will play winner of the 6A South for state title.
#1. Centreville (8-0) -- Rating: 34.75
#2. Lake Braddock (8-0) -- Rating: 33.63
#3. Westfield (6-2) -- Rating: 31.38
#4. Langley (6-2) -- Rating: 30.88
#5. South County (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
#6. Yorktown (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
#7. Washington-Lee (6-2) -- Rating: 29.50
#8. Patriot (6-2) -- Rating: 29.38
#9. Thomas C. Williams (5-3) -- Rating: 27.88
#10. Battlefield (6-3) -- Rating: 27.56
#11. Chantilly (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
#12. Fairfax (6-2) -- Rating: 27.50
#13. James W. Robinson (6-2) -- Rating: 27.25
#14. Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) -- Rating: 26.44
#15. South Lakes (4-4) -- Rating: 25.50
#16. Hayfield (3-5) -- Rating: 24.50
----------------------------------------------
TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
----------------------------------------------
#17. Oakton (4-4) -- Rating: 24.25
#18. McLean (4-4) -- Rating: 24.13
#19. West Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 24.13
#20. West Springfield (3-5) -- Rating: 22.88
#21. Osbourn Park (2-6) -- Rating: 22.25
#22. Osbourn (2-6) -- Rating: 22.13
#23. Wilburt T. Woodson (1-7) -- Rating: 20.63
#24. Herndon (1-7) -- Rating: 19.63
#25. Annandale (1-7) -- Rating: 19.38
#26. James Madison (0-8) -- Rating: 18.88
If the 6A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Hayfield (3-5) at #1 Centreville (8-0)
#15 South Lakes (4-4) at #2 Lake Braddock (8-0)
#14 Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) at #3 Westfield (6-2)
#13 James W. Robinson (6-2) at #4 Langley (6-2)
#12 Fairfax (6-2) at #5 South County (7-1)
#11 Chantilly (5-3) at #6 Yorktown (7-1)
#10 Battlefield (6-3) at #7 Washingtin-Lee (6-2)
#9 Thomas C. Williams (5-3) at #8 Patriot (6-2)
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
-----------------------------------
Winner of the 5A North playoff will play winner of the 5A South for state title.
#1. Massaponax (9-0) -- Rating: 33.11
#2. Tuscarora (7-1) -- Rating: 31.38
#3. Briar Woods (7-1) -- Rating: 29.50
#4. Stone Bridge (6-2) -- Rating: 29.25
#5. North Stafford (7-2) -- Rating: 29.11
#6. Broad Run (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
#7. Falls Church (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
#8. Mountain View (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
#9. Albemarle (5-3) -- Rating: 27.00
#10. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) -- Rating: 24.63
#11. Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 23.00
#12. Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) -- Rating: 22.75
#13. Mount Vernon (3-5) -- Rating: 22.50
#14. Potomac Falls (4-4) -- Rating: 21.63
#15. Robert E. Lee (2-6) -- Rating: 21.13
#16. Brooke Point (2-6) -- Rating: 20.63
----------------------------------------------
TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
----------------------------------------------
#17. Thomas A. Edison (2-6) -- Rating: 20.38
#18. J.E.B. Stuart (2-6) -- Rating: 19.50
#19. Patrick Henry-Ashland (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
#20. Wakefield (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
#21. Orange County (1-7) -- Rating: 18.13
#22. Freedom-Loudoun (1-7) -- Rating: 16.88
#23. Halifax County (1-7) -- Rating: 16.75
#24. George C. Marshall (0-8) -- Rating: 16.63
If the 5A North playoffs started today, here are the games:
#16 Brooke Point (2-6) at #1 Massaponax (9-0)
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-6) at #2 Tuscarora (7-1)
#14 Potomac Falls (4-4) at #3 Briar Woods (7-1)
#13 Mount Vernon (3-5) at #4 Stone Bridge (6-2)
#12 Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) at #5 North Stafford (7-2)
#11 Potomac (3-5) at #6 Broad Run (6-2)
#10 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) at #7 Falls Church (6-2)
#9 Albemarle (5-3) at #8 Mountain View (5-3)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football2
()
Date: October 26, 2013 11:36PM
football Wrote:
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> centreville will kill lake braddock in the
> playoffs
haha right, centreville will lose to robinson.
right it down
take a note
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> centreville will kill lake braddock in the
> playoffs
haha right, centreville will lose to robinson.
right it down
take a note
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
IAmJericho
()
Date: October 26, 2013 11:52PM
nat4lee Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here are the official playoff standings through
> week nine as posted by the Virginia High School
> League just a couple of hours ago.
>
>
>
> Group 6A North Playoff Standings
> --------------------------------------
>
> Winner of the 6A North playoff will play winner of
> the 6A South for state title.
>
>
> #1. Centreville (8-0) -- Rating: 34.75
> #2. Lake Braddock (8-0) -- Rating: 33.63
> #3. Westfield (6-2) -- Rating: 31.38
> #4. Langley (6-2) -- Rating: 30.88
> #5. South County (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
> #6. Yorktown (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
> #7. Washington-Lee (6-2) -- Rating: 29.50
> #8. Patriot (6-2) -- Rating: 29.38
> #9. Thomas C. Williams (5-3) -- Rating: 27.88
> #10. Battlefield (6-3) -- Rating: 27.56
> #11. Chantilly (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
> #12. Fairfax (6-2) -- Rating: 27.50
> #13. James W. Robinson (6-2) -- Rating: 27.25
> #14. Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) -- Rating:
> 26.44
> #15. South Lakes (4-4) -- Rating: 25.50
> #16. Hayfield (3-5) -- Rating: 24.50
> ----------------------------------------------
> TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
> ----------------------------------------------
> #17. Oakton (4-4) -- Rating: 24.25
> #18. McLean (4-4) -- Rating: 24.13
> #19. West Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 24.13
> #20. West Springfield (3-5) -- Rating: 22.88
> #21. Osbourn Park (2-6) -- Rating: 22.25
> #22. Osbourn (2-6) -- Rating: 22.13
> #23. Wilburt T. Woodson (1-7) -- Rating: 20.63
> #24. Herndon (1-7) -- Rating: 19.63
> #25. Annandale (1-7) -- Rating: 19.38
> #26. James Madison (0-8) -- Rating: 18.88
>
>
> If the 6A North playoffs started today, here are
> the games:
>
> #16 Hayfield (3-5) at #1 Centreville (8-0)
> #15 South Lakes (4-4) at #2 Lake Braddock (8-0)
> #14 Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) at #3
> Westfield (6-2)
> #13 James W. Robinson (6-2) at #4 Langley (6-2)
> #12 Fairfax (6-2) at #5 South County (7-1)
> #11 Chantilly (5-3) at #6 Yorktown (7-1)
> #10 Battlefield (6-3) at #7 Washingtin-Lee (6-2)
> #9 Thomas C. Williams (5-3) at #8 Patriot (6-2)
>
>
>
> Group 5A North Playoff Standings
> -----------------------------------
>
> Winner of the 5A North playoff will play winner of
> the 5A South for state title.
>
>
> #1. Massaponax (9-0) -- Rating: 33.11
> #2. Tuscarora (7-1) -- Rating: 31.38
> #3. Briar Woods (7-1) -- Rating: 29.50
> #4. Stone Bridge (6-2) -- Rating: 29.25
> #5. North Stafford (7-2) -- Rating: 29.11
> #6. Broad Run (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
> #7. Falls Church (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
> #8. Mountain View (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
> #9. Albemarle (5-3) -- Rating: 27.00
> #10. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) -- Rating: 24.63
> #11. Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 23.00
> #12. Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) -- Rating:
> 22.75
> #13. Mount Vernon (3-5) -- Rating: 22.50
> #14. Potomac Falls (4-4) -- Rating: 21.63
> #15. Robert E. Lee (2-6) -- Rating: 21.13
> #16. Brooke Point (2-6) -- Rating: 20.63
> ----------------------------------------------
> TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
> ----------------------------------------------
> #17. Thomas A. Edison (2-6) -- Rating: 20.38
> #18. J.E.B. Stuart (2-6) -- Rating: 19.50
> #19. Patrick Henry-Ashland (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
> #20. Wakefield (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
> #21. Orange County (1-7) -- Rating: 18.13
> #22. Freedom-Loudoun (1-7) -- Rating: 16.88
> #23. Halifax County (1-7) -- Rating: 16.75
> #24. George C. Marshall (0-8) -- Rating: 16.63
>
>
> If the 5A North playoffs started today, here are
> the games:
>
> #16 Brooke Point (2-6) at #1 Massaponax (9-0)
> #15 Robert E. Lee (2-6) at #2 Tuscarora (7-1)
> #14 Potomac Falls (4-4) at #3 Briar Woods (7-1)
> #13 Mount Vernon (3-5) at #4 Stone Bridge (6-2)
> #12 Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) at #5 North
> Stafford (7-2)
> #11 Potomac (3-5) at #6 Broad Run (6-2)
> #10 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) at #7 Falls Church
> (6-2)
> #9 Albemarle (5-3) at #8 Mountain View (5-3)
Is Hayfield D6 this year? I was under the impression that they stayed at D5
Also, does anyone know whos mathematically eliminated from playoff contention or can come up with scenarios for the #1,2,3 seeds as well the last few seeds left. I know it would require someone with knowledge of schedules and understanding of the power points but if anyone could itd be cool thanks.
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> Here are the official playoff standings through
> week nine as posted by the Virginia High School
> League just a couple of hours ago.
>
>
>
> Group 6A North Playoff Standings
> --------------------------------------
>
> Winner of the 6A North playoff will play winner of
> the 6A South for state title.
>
>
> #1. Centreville (8-0) -- Rating: 34.75
> #2. Lake Braddock (8-0) -- Rating: 33.63
> #3. Westfield (6-2) -- Rating: 31.38
> #4. Langley (6-2) -- Rating: 30.88
> #5. South County (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
> #6. Yorktown (7-1) -- Rating: 30.00
> #7. Washington-Lee (6-2) -- Rating: 29.50
> #8. Patriot (6-2) -- Rating: 29.38
> #9. Thomas C. Williams (5-3) -- Rating: 27.88
> #10. Battlefield (6-3) -- Rating: 27.56
> #11. Chantilly (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
> #12. Fairfax (6-2) -- Rating: 27.50
> #13. James W. Robinson (6-2) -- Rating: 27.25
> #14. Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) -- Rating:
> 26.44
> #15. South Lakes (4-4) -- Rating: 25.50
> #16. Hayfield (3-5) -- Rating: 24.50
> ----------------------------------------------
> TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
> ----------------------------------------------
> #17. Oakton (4-4) -- Rating: 24.25
> #18. McLean (4-4) -- Rating: 24.13
> #19. West Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 24.13
> #20. West Springfield (3-5) -- Rating: 22.88
> #21. Osbourn Park (2-6) -- Rating: 22.25
> #22. Osbourn (2-6) -- Rating: 22.13
> #23. Wilburt T. Woodson (1-7) -- Rating: 20.63
> #24. Herndon (1-7) -- Rating: 19.63
> #25. Annandale (1-7) -- Rating: 19.38
> #26. James Madison (0-8) -- Rating: 18.88
>
>
> If the 6A North playoffs started today, here are
> the games:
>
> #16 Hayfield (3-5) at #1 Centreville (8-0)
> #15 South Lakes (4-4) at #2 Lake Braddock (8-0)
> #14 Stonewall Jackson-Manassas (5-4) at #3
> Westfield (6-2)
> #13 James W. Robinson (6-2) at #4 Langley (6-2)
> #12 Fairfax (6-2) at #5 South County (7-1)
> #11 Chantilly (5-3) at #6 Yorktown (7-1)
> #10 Battlefield (6-3) at #7 Washingtin-Lee (6-2)
> #9 Thomas C. Williams (5-3) at #8 Patriot (6-2)
>
>
>
> Group 5A North Playoff Standings
> -----------------------------------
>
> Winner of the 5A North playoff will play winner of
> the 5A South for state title.
>
>
> #1. Massaponax (9-0) -- Rating: 33.11
> #2. Tuscarora (7-1) -- Rating: 31.38
> #3. Briar Woods (7-1) -- Rating: 29.50
> #4. Stone Bridge (6-2) -- Rating: 29.25
> #5. North Stafford (7-2) -- Rating: 29.11
> #6. Broad Run (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
> #7. Falls Church (6-2) -- Rating: 27.63
> #8. Mountain View (5-3) -- Rating: 27.50
> #9. Albemarle (5-3) -- Rating: 27.00
> #10. Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) -- Rating: 24.63
> #11. Potomac (3-5) -- Rating: 23.00
> #12. Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) -- Rating:
> 22.75
> #13. Mount Vernon (3-5) -- Rating: 22.50
> #14. Potomac Falls (4-4) -- Rating: 21.63
> #15. Robert E. Lee (2-6) -- Rating: 21.13
> #16. Brooke Point (2-6) -- Rating: 20.63
> ----------------------------------------------
> TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
> ----------------------------------------------
> #17. Thomas A. Edison (2-6) -- Rating: 20.38
> #18. J.E.B. Stuart (2-6) -- Rating: 19.50
> #19. Patrick Henry-Ashland (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
> #20. Wakefield (2-6) -- Rating: 19.38
> #21. Orange County (1-7) -- Rating: 18.13
> #22. Freedom-Loudoun (1-7) -- Rating: 16.88
> #23. Halifax County (1-7) -- Rating: 16.75
> #24. George C. Marshall (0-8) -- Rating: 16.63
>
>
> If the 5A North playoffs started today, here are
> the games:
>
> #16 Brooke Point (2-6) at #1 Massaponax (9-0)
> #15 Robert E. Lee (2-6) at #2 Tuscarora (7-1)
> #14 Potomac Falls (4-4) at #3 Briar Woods (7-1)
> #13 Mount Vernon (3-5) at #4 Stone Bridge (6-2)
> #12 Thomas Jefferson-Alexandria (4-4) at #5 North
> Stafford (7-2)
> #11 Potomac (3-5) at #6 Broad Run (6-2)
> #10 Freedom-Woodbridge (3-5) at #7 Falls Church
> (6-2)
> #9 Albemarle (5-3) at #8 Mountain View (5-3)
Is Hayfield D6 this year? I was under the impression that they stayed at D5
Also, does anyone know whos mathematically eliminated from playoff contention or can come up with scenarios for the #1,2,3 seeds as well the last few seeds left. I know it would require someone with knowledge of schedules and understanding of the power points but if anyone could itd be cool thanks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Atoms
()
Date: October 26, 2013 11:54PM
Annandale will rise again
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 27, 2013 02:31AM
football2 Wrote:
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> football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > centreville will kill lake braddock in the
> > playoffs
>
>
> haha right, centreville will lose to robinson.
>
> right it down
> take a note
Would not surprise me a bit. EVERY year they seem to overlook someone on their schedule and loses a game that should have been won. And, yes, Robinson would love to be the team to ruin a wonderful year for CVille.
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> football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > centreville will kill lake braddock in the
> > playoffs
>
>
> haha right, centreville will lose to robinson.
>
> right it down
> take a note
Would not surprise me a bit. EVERY year they seem to overlook someone on their schedule and loses a game that should have been won. And, yes, Robinson would love to be the team to ruin a wonderful year for CVille.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bill
()
Date: October 27, 2013 04:13AM
Falls Church is scary good this season. They should be 7-1 but got screwed on a KO return for TD against Yorktown, that got called back. Fc's defense is one the best in the region and they have athletes everywhere ! They just spanked Edison 49-26 without one of their best players; dupont who has a mild injury. watch out!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 27, 2013 06:52AM
IAmJericho Wrote:
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>
> Is Hayfield D6 this year? I was under the
> impression that they stayed at D5
Hayfield is a Group 6A team. Take a look at my recent post on the district standings if you want to know in which playoff group each of the local teams is competing in.
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>
> Is Hayfield D6 this year? I was under the
> impression that they stayed at D5
Hayfield is a Group 6A team. Take a look at my recent post on the district standings if you want to know in which playoff group each of the local teams is competing in.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
D5 Guy
()
Date: October 27, 2013 08:50AM
Can anyone share with us how power points are determined this year?
For the life of me I have no idea how a Tuscarora team is so much higher than Briar Woods, for example.
By the way, Falls Church fan, they have no chance to win more than one playoff game this year. None. They still play a very soft schedule and will get their helmets handed to them by any of the top 4 Loudoun schools, never mind North Stafford and Massoponex.
For the life of me I have no idea how a Tuscarora team is so much higher than Briar Woods, for example.
By the way, Falls Church fan, they have no chance to win more than one playoff game this year. None. They still play a very soft schedule and will get their helmets handed to them by any of the top 4 Loudoun schools, never mind North Stafford and Massoponex.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
power pts
()
Date: October 27, 2013 09:33AM
D5 Guy Wrote:
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> Can anyone share with us how power points are
> determined this year?
>
> For the life of me I have no idea how a Tuscarora
> team is so much higher than Briar Woods, for
> example.
>
> By the way, Falls Church fan, they have no chance
> to win more than one playoff game this year. None.
> They still play a very soft schedule and will get
> their helmets handed to them by any of the top 4
> Loudoun schools, never mind North Stafford and
> Massoponex.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-2013-football-rating-scale.pdf
Tuscarora is losing points for beating Div 3 teams teams while Briar Woods is gaining points for beating D6 team. That seems to be the biggest difference.
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> Can anyone share with us how power points are
> determined this year?
>
> For the life of me I have no idea how a Tuscarora
> team is so much higher than Briar Woods, for
> example.
>
> By the way, Falls Church fan, they have no chance
> to win more than one playoff game this year. None.
> They still play a very soft schedule and will get
> their helmets handed to them by any of the top 4
> Loudoun schools, never mind North Stafford and
> Massoponex.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-2013-football-rating-scale.pdf
Tuscarora is losing points for beating Div 3 teams teams while Briar Woods is gaining points for beating D6 team. That seems to be the biggest difference.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
D5 Guy is a bitch
()
Date: October 27, 2013 09:33AM
In the playoffs, the best teams don't always win. its the teams who are healthy and on a roll.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: October 27, 2013 10:00AM
Here is an excerpt from the football guide I publish every year for a couple Alexandria schools:
First, an introduction: A school competes in one of six statewide groups based on the current student enrollment at the school, with group 1A including the smallest schools and group 6A comprising the largest, which ensures a competitive parity among schools of similar size. Since 1986, Virginia high school football teams have advanced to the playoffs based on the following table:
Group ranking: 6A - 5A - 4A - 3A - 2A - 1A
For winning against: 26 - 24 - 22 - 20 - 18 - 16
For losing against: 14 - 12 - 10 - 8 - 6 - 4
In addition, school get bonus points depending on the number of games their opponent wins during the entire season, so this total is continuously updated as the season progresses. In victory, a team gets two points for each of its opponent's wins all season, and in defeat, one point for each of the opposition's wins. Also, bonus points are awarded to higher group teams for playing lower group teams (i.e., a 6A team playing a 5A team). Two bonus points are awarded per classification for an in-district game, and one for an out-of-district game.
The calculation of the power ratings occurs by totaling the game and bonus points and dividing that total by the number of games played. For example, if Lee finished a ten-game season with 225 points, it's power point rating would be 22.5.
First, an introduction: A school competes in one of six statewide groups based on the current student enrollment at the school, with group 1A including the smallest schools and group 6A comprising the largest, which ensures a competitive parity among schools of similar size. Since 1986, Virginia high school football teams have advanced to the playoffs based on the following table:
Group ranking: 6A - 5A - 4A - 3A - 2A - 1A
For winning against: 26 - 24 - 22 - 20 - 18 - 16
For losing against: 14 - 12 - 10 - 8 - 6 - 4
In addition, school get bonus points depending on the number of games their opponent wins during the entire season, so this total is continuously updated as the season progresses. In victory, a team gets two points for each of its opponent's wins all season, and in defeat, one point for each of the opposition's wins. Also, bonus points are awarded to higher group teams for playing lower group teams (i.e., a 6A team playing a 5A team). Two bonus points are awarded per classification for an in-district game, and one for an out-of-district game.
The calculation of the power ratings occurs by totaling the game and bonus points and dividing that total by the number of games played. For example, if Lee finished a ten-game season with 225 points, it's power point rating would be 22.5.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 27, 2013 10:23AM
Steven P Wrote:
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LB could easily have
> 1-3 losses if it wasn't for an injured Joe Wilson
> (Robinson) and 2 game winning drives. SOCO has had
> problems getting up for games against weak
> opponents so that wont be a problem vs LB. SOCO
> was up 21-0 vs TC very early, but lost focus. LB
> is a lot more discipline than South County. If
> SOCO can cut out the penalties and the sloppy play
> vs LB, I like their chances.
Joe Wilson played the first half of the Lake Braddock-Robinson game and Lake Braddock was in control. Then you're going to say they could have easily lost to Westfield and Stone Bridge... Well duh. Those are three very quality wins. You know how many quality teams South County has beat this year? How about zero, they have played just one team with a 12 seed or higher in either division, and squeeked out a win against TC Williams who Lake Braddock just destroyed. South County is okay, but a huge imposter with their schedule and they will get exposed against Braddock.
The last 5 games, Lake Braddock has outscored their opponents 271-0; I can't recall that last time I've seen 5 consecutive shutouts. This speaks somewhat to how bad the Patriot District is, but at the same time, highlights Lake Braddock's defensive abilities. Lake Braddock will be tested as early as the second round of the playoffs, but not by a Patriot District team.
The early line is... South County @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
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LB could easily have
> 1-3 losses if it wasn't for an injured Joe Wilson
> (Robinson) and 2 game winning drives. SOCO has had
> problems getting up for games against weak
> opponents so that wont be a problem vs LB. SOCO
> was up 21-0 vs TC very early, but lost focus. LB
> is a lot more discipline than South County. If
> SOCO can cut out the penalties and the sloppy play
> vs LB, I like their chances.
Joe Wilson played the first half of the Lake Braddock-Robinson game and Lake Braddock was in control. Then you're going to say they could have easily lost to Westfield and Stone Bridge... Well duh. Those are three very quality wins. You know how many quality teams South County has beat this year? How about zero, they have played just one team with a 12 seed or higher in either division, and squeeked out a win against TC Williams who Lake Braddock just destroyed. South County is okay, but a huge imposter with their schedule and they will get exposed against Braddock.
The last 5 games, Lake Braddock has outscored their opponents 271-0; I can't recall that last time I've seen 5 consecutive shutouts. This speaks somewhat to how bad the Patriot District is, but at the same time, highlights Lake Braddock's defensive abilities. Lake Braddock will be tested as early as the second round of the playoffs, but not by a Patriot District team.
The early line is... South County @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NEVER
()
Date: October 27, 2013 10:49AM
Atoms Wrote:
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> Annandale will rise again
As long as soco and lb remain at the top of the patriot district then no other team has a chance especially an 0-7 team
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> Annandale will rise again
As long as soco and lb remain at the top of the patriot district then no other team has a chance especially an 0-7 team
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??
()
Date: October 27, 2013 10:59AM
I would love to see LB go against West Po with a healthy Demornay
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
MR Question
()
Date: October 27, 2013 11:07AM
Would you rather have a great offense/average defense or a great defense/average offense?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
D5 guy
()
Date: October 27, 2013 01:40PM
Thank you, power points, for sharing the formula.
I remain baffled - even you noticed that Briar Woods has played a more difficult schedule than Tuscarora, yet Tuscarora seems to be way ahead in points.
I guess a lot of that will change when Briar destroys Tuscarora.
Bottom line is teams with real weak schedules and conferences ( like So Co and Falls Church) look bright and shiny until you put them under some intense lights.
I remain baffled - even you noticed that Briar Woods has played a more difficult schedule than Tuscarora, yet Tuscarora seems to be way ahead in points.
I guess a lot of that will change when Briar destroys Tuscarora.
Bottom line is teams with real weak schedules and conferences ( like So Co and Falls Church) look bright and shiny until you put them under some intense lights.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Adams
()
Date: October 27, 2013 01:44PM
ryan Wrote:
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> since 10/31/08 Marshall has won 4 games....yes 4..
> wow lol
Do they get paid extra to be everyone's Homecoming opponent? Can't imagine wanting to go there. Poor saps.
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> since 10/31/08 Marshall has won 4 games....yes 4..
> wow lol
Do they get paid extra to be everyone's Homecoming opponent? Can't imagine wanting to go there. Poor saps.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hammerhawk
()
Date: October 27, 2013 01:50PM
as a hayfield alum I would be very surprised if they lose to falls church.
even in down years, we never lose to falls church.
plus, hayfield needs to win every game if they want to make the playoffs.
hayfield over falls church by 6-10
even in down years, we never lose to falls church.
plus, hayfield needs to win every game if they want to make the playoffs.
hayfield over falls church by 6-10
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Power pts
()
Date: October 27, 2013 04:13PM
D5 guy Wrote:
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> Thank you, power points, for sharing the formula.
>
> I remain baffled - even you noticed that Briar
> Woods has played a more difficult schedule than
> Tuscarora, yet Tuscarora seems to be way ahead in
> points.
>
> I guess a lot of that will change when Briar
> destroys Tuscarora.
>
> Bottom line is teams with real weak schedules and
> conferences ( like So Co and Falls Church) look
> bright and shiny until you put them under some
> intense lights.
Yes Briar Woods has played a tougher schedule by playing up and by playing less lower classifications, but Tuscarora's opponents have won 42 games and Briar Woods opponents have only won 32 games. This is the reason Tuscarora is ahead. Briar Woods beating Tuscarora won't necessarily mean they will advance past them. The good news for Briar Woods is next week, they will pickup the wins from Potomac Falls (currently 4) while Tuscarora picks up the wins from Freedom (currently 1). That should close the gap a little.
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> Thank you, power points, for sharing the formula.
>
> I remain baffled - even you noticed that Briar
> Woods has played a more difficult schedule than
> Tuscarora, yet Tuscarora seems to be way ahead in
> points.
>
> I guess a lot of that will change when Briar
> destroys Tuscarora.
>
> Bottom line is teams with real weak schedules and
> conferences ( like So Co and Falls Church) look
> bright and shiny until you put them under some
> intense lights.
Yes Briar Woods has played a tougher schedule by playing up and by playing less lower classifications, but Tuscarora's opponents have won 42 games and Briar Woods opponents have only won 32 games. This is the reason Tuscarora is ahead. Briar Woods beating Tuscarora won't necessarily mean they will advance past them. The good news for Briar Woods is next week, they will pickup the wins from Potomac Falls (currently 4) while Tuscarora picks up the wins from Freedom (currently 1). That should close the gap a little.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Justathought
()
Date: October 27, 2013 05:39PM
Watching SoCo's defense, I would agree that can loose focus and discipline during the course of the game but they do possess quite a few athletes in the back 7. If SoCo can shore up the defense in preparation for LB I think it will be one of the more exciting games of the season. I know there's a lot of bad blood between those two schools.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Chuck Bable
()
Date: October 27, 2013 06:37PM
Looks like to me, this is going to be one of the best games in the northern region this year. Two good teams, two GREAT offenses, it's going to be one for the books. Projected 5,000 people already goin to be attending. You should make a point to attend this game. It's going to be one of the best atmospheres you can get for 5$ in a highschool football game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NovaFB
()
Date: October 27, 2013 07:04PM
Hey Stevek2 where's your post game point spread analysis?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HS Football rules
()
Date: October 27, 2013 07:48PM
football2 "right it down"
Son - stay in school
Son - stay in school
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bobobobobob
()
Date: October 27, 2013 08:52PM
Spreads for this week?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: October 27, 2013 09:00PM
bill Wrote:
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> Falls Church is scary good this season. They
> should be 7-1 but got screwed on a KO return for
> TD against Yorktown, that got called back. Fc's
> defense is one the best in the region and they
> have athletes everywhere ! They just spanked
> Edison 49-26 without one of their best players;
> dupont who has a mild injury. watch out!
FC choked va Yorktown like they always do and don't forget that TD Yorktown had called back. Scary good you say? Who have they beaten?
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> Falls Church is scary good this season. They
> should be 7-1 but got screwed on a KO return for
> TD against Yorktown, that got called back. Fc's
> defense is one the best in the region and they
> have athletes everywhere ! They just spanked
> Edison 49-26 without one of their best players;
> dupont who has a mild injury. watch out!
FC choked va Yorktown like they always do and don't forget that TD Yorktown had called back. Scary good you say? Who have they beaten?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steve K2
()
Date: October 28, 2013 09:18AM
Not as bad a week as people were saying, did miss a few though. The big spreads are intended to make pickers really think about the game. Centreville-Washington Lee for example, anyone would take Centreville, spot Washington Lee 49 points though and it becomes a harder pick. With the cold weather, comes less explosive offense, that’s a consideration for cold weather games in the future, I made these picks a week prior and wasn’t expecting 30 degree weather either. Next set coming momentarily.
Annandale @ West Springfield (-14.0)
*West Springfield won 17-14, did not cover the spread. West Springfield is worse than I thought, and I wasn’t thinking much of them.
Centreville (-49.0) @ Washington Lee
*Centreville won 53-7 and did not cover the spread. 46 point margin was close though.
Chantilly (-7.0) @ Yorktown *Game of the Week
*Yorktown won 30-28, in what was the game of the week. Yorktown missing their star had others step up, making it a big time win for them and a big loss for the Chargers. Chantilly finds itself in a must win game now if they want to avoid seeds through 16.
Fairfax (-42.0) @ Marshall
*Fairfax won 51-22, Fairfax did not cover the spread.
Falls Church (-20.0) @ Edison
*Falls Church won 49-26 and covered the spread.
Herndon @ Westfield (-23.0)
*Westfield won 62-28 and covered the spread.
Jefferson @ Langley (-20.0)
*Langley went off and won 62-7. They’re very good, was expecting more fight from a decent winning football team in TJ.
Lee (-6.5) @ West Potomac
*West Potomac won 51-32. Never know which West Po team will show up, but Lee’s defense has shown to be hard pressed stopping anybody.
Madison @ McLean (-7.0)
*McLean won 42-7; Madison is 0-8 and playing with no heart. Unacceptable product on the field for a school of their status and size in a weak district.
Mount Vernon @ Hayfield (-24.0)
*Hayfield won 40-16. Spot on with that spread!
Oakton @ Robinson (-10.0)
*Robinson won 41-21. Good win for the Rams. Cougars are now 0-3 in the Concorde, called them as pretenders long ago.
South Lakes @ Stone Bridge (-40.0)
*Stone Bridge won 41-13 and did not cover the spread.
Woodson @ South County (-31.0)
*South County won 42-17 and did not cover the spread. They were losing for a large portion of this game, my point exactly why they’re going to get smothered against Braddock.
Wakefield (-6.0) @ Stuart
*Stuart won 41-7; I was flat wrong on this one, sorry I haven’t made it out to a Stuart or Wakefield game with such great football in the area.
Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ TC Williams
*Lake Braddock won 44-0. They have outscored their last 5 opponents 271-0; it shows out weak the Patriot District is, but at the same time, 5 shutouts in a row is amazing and I don’t remember the last time I saw that.
Annandale @ West Springfield (-14.0)
*West Springfield won 17-14, did not cover the spread. West Springfield is worse than I thought, and I wasn’t thinking much of them.
Centreville (-49.0) @ Washington Lee
*Centreville won 53-7 and did not cover the spread. 46 point margin was close though.
Chantilly (-7.0) @ Yorktown *Game of the Week
*Yorktown won 30-28, in what was the game of the week. Yorktown missing their star had others step up, making it a big time win for them and a big loss for the Chargers. Chantilly finds itself in a must win game now if they want to avoid seeds through 16.
Fairfax (-42.0) @ Marshall
*Fairfax won 51-22, Fairfax did not cover the spread.
Falls Church (-20.0) @ Edison
*Falls Church won 49-26 and covered the spread.
Herndon @ Westfield (-23.0)
*Westfield won 62-28 and covered the spread.
Jefferson @ Langley (-20.0)
*Langley went off and won 62-7. They’re very good, was expecting more fight from a decent winning football team in TJ.
Lee (-6.5) @ West Potomac
*West Potomac won 51-32. Never know which West Po team will show up, but Lee’s defense has shown to be hard pressed stopping anybody.
Madison @ McLean (-7.0)
*McLean won 42-7; Madison is 0-8 and playing with no heart. Unacceptable product on the field for a school of their status and size in a weak district.
Mount Vernon @ Hayfield (-24.0)
*Hayfield won 40-16. Spot on with that spread!
Oakton @ Robinson (-10.0)
*Robinson won 41-21. Good win for the Rams. Cougars are now 0-3 in the Concorde, called them as pretenders long ago.
South Lakes @ Stone Bridge (-40.0)
*Stone Bridge won 41-13 and did not cover the spread.
Woodson @ South County (-31.0)
*South County won 42-17 and did not cover the spread. They were losing for a large portion of this game, my point exactly why they’re going to get smothered against Braddock.
Wakefield (-6.0) @ Stuart
*Stuart won 41-7; I was flat wrong on this one, sorry I haven’t made it out to a Stuart or Wakefield game with such great football in the area.
Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ TC Williams
*Lake Braddock won 44-0. They have outscored their last 5 opponents 271-0; it shows out weak the Patriot District is, but at the same time, 5 shutouts in a row is amazing and I don’t remember the last time I saw that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steve K2
()
Date: October 28, 2013 09:36AM
Here are this week's preliminary spreads.
Annandale @ West Potomac (-21.0)
Edison (-10.0) @ Stuart
Falls Church @ Hayfield (-6.0) *Upset pick and a game of the week
*This is a great matchup on paper and I feel if you’re in the Springfield area this will be a good football game to go see.
Herndon @ Centreville (-45.0)
Langley (-28.0) @ Madison
Lee @ Woodson (-6.5)
McLean (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*We’ll see how TJ responds to their drubbing last week. For playoff seeding purposes this is a big game in D5.
Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0) *Game of the Week
*SoCo and Braddock is getting a lot of the media hype, but this is a must win for Chantilly and a chance for Robinson to get a quality win. Robinson had a very weak out of district schedule with the exception of LB which they lost by a few touchdowns; but then has looked impressive in Concorde play taking Westfield down to the final possession and crushing Oakton. Chantilly has lost to 3 quality teams in Lake Braddock, Yorktown, and Langley, but has two quality wins against South County and Oakton in a much tougher schedule. With Westfield next week, Chantilly needs this one to avoid a very low playoff seeding and a likely first round exit. This could go either way, and I may regret this pick, as I think Robinson may come in angry remembering getting crushed in the playoffs last year against Chantilly. Then historically the past few years I don’t like Chantilly in high pressure must win games; but I’ll take the Chargers by a touchdown.
South County @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
*Patriot District Championship Game so it does deserve some hype for sure. I think South County will break Lake Braddock’s 21 scoreless quarter streak, but won’t score that much. My arguments for why Braddock is so heavily favored are posted above in some comments. This will be the best atmosphere of the week by far which is always a major consideration when picking a game to attend, but I think if you want a close football game with high playoff implications, Robinson @ Chantilly is the one to be at.
South Lakes (-31.0) @ Marshall
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ Fairfax
TC Williams (-28.0) @ West Springfield
Washington Lee (-20.0) @ Wakefield
Westfield (-21.0) @ Oakton
Yorktown (-24.0) @ Mount Vernon
Annandale @ West Potomac (-21.0)
Edison (-10.0) @ Stuart
Falls Church @ Hayfield (-6.0) *Upset pick and a game of the week
*This is a great matchup on paper and I feel if you’re in the Springfield area this will be a good football game to go see.
Herndon @ Centreville (-45.0)
Langley (-28.0) @ Madison
Lee @ Woodson (-6.5)
McLean (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*We’ll see how TJ responds to their drubbing last week. For playoff seeding purposes this is a big game in D5.
Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0) *Game of the Week
*SoCo and Braddock is getting a lot of the media hype, but this is a must win for Chantilly and a chance for Robinson to get a quality win. Robinson had a very weak out of district schedule with the exception of LB which they lost by a few touchdowns; but then has looked impressive in Concorde play taking Westfield down to the final possession and crushing Oakton. Chantilly has lost to 3 quality teams in Lake Braddock, Yorktown, and Langley, but has two quality wins against South County and Oakton in a much tougher schedule. With Westfield next week, Chantilly needs this one to avoid a very low playoff seeding and a likely first round exit. This could go either way, and I may regret this pick, as I think Robinson may come in angry remembering getting crushed in the playoffs last year against Chantilly. Then historically the past few years I don’t like Chantilly in high pressure must win games; but I’ll take the Chargers by a touchdown.
South County @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
*Patriot District Championship Game so it does deserve some hype for sure. I think South County will break Lake Braddock’s 21 scoreless quarter streak, but won’t score that much. My arguments for why Braddock is so heavily favored are posted above in some comments. This will be the best atmosphere of the week by far which is always a major consideration when picking a game to attend, but I think if you want a close football game with high playoff implications, Robinson @ Chantilly is the one to be at.
South Lakes (-31.0) @ Marshall
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ Fairfax
TC Williams (-28.0) @ West Springfield
Washington Lee (-20.0) @ Wakefield
Westfield (-21.0) @ Oakton
Yorktown (-24.0) @ Mount Vernon
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football2013
()
Date: October 28, 2013 10:08AM
These sites always crack me up!! Centreville and Lake Braddock are going to run the show all the way to states! Ask Oscar Smith and Battlefield what they think about that Centreville and Braddock fans.
There are a lot of people out there doubting South County this Friday against Lake Braddock, Lake Braddock kids talking all kinds of crap on Twitter about how they are going to crush South County. That is okay because sites like these are made for ignorant people with nothing else to do but talk crap about a team they know nothing about. South County likes being in the shadowns of your ignorant comments, and will be ready to play this Friday against Lake Braddock.
Everyone out there is focusing on the wrong things. This is a championship game against two rival schools. You can throw records, scoring, and comments out of the window. This game is going to come down to who wants it more, and who is willing to sell out during the week in practice. All that talking, and not one of you have probably ever strapped on pads and a helmet and actually played a football game. Please keep talking because all you are doing is adding fuel to the fire. South County will be ready to play against Lake Braddock Friday night, you can count on that!!
Let the kids play, and keep your ignorant comments to yourself!!
SoCoPride!!
There are a lot of people out there doubting South County this Friday against Lake Braddock, Lake Braddock kids talking all kinds of crap on Twitter about how they are going to crush South County. That is okay because sites like these are made for ignorant people with nothing else to do but talk crap about a team they know nothing about. South County likes being in the shadowns of your ignorant comments, and will be ready to play this Friday against Lake Braddock.
Everyone out there is focusing on the wrong things. This is a championship game against two rival schools. You can throw records, scoring, and comments out of the window. This game is going to come down to who wants it more, and who is willing to sell out during the week in practice. All that talking, and not one of you have probably ever strapped on pads and a helmet and actually played a football game. Please keep talking because all you are doing is adding fuel to the fire. South County will be ready to play against Lake Braddock Friday night, you can count on that!!
Let the kids play, and keep your ignorant comments to yourself!!
SoCoPride!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Disgusted Vienna Resident
()
Date: October 28, 2013 11:27AM
Steve K2 Wrote:
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> Madison @ McLean (-7.0)
> *McLean won 42-7; Madison is 0-8 and playing with
> no heart. Unacceptable product on the field for a
> school of their status and size in a weak
> district.
>
If McLean beat Madison by 35, Langley should beat them by at least 45, if not more.
It's strange that a school that is known for worshipping athletes, while ignoring other kids or treating them like trash, would have such a bad team. The mindset there seems to be, if you're not the best, don't even bother competing.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Madison @ McLean (-7.0)
> *McLean won 42-7; Madison is 0-8 and playing with
> no heart. Unacceptable product on the field for a
> school of their status and size in a weak
> district.
>
If McLean beat Madison by 35, Langley should beat them by at least 45, if not more.
It's strange that a school that is known for worshipping athletes, while ignoring other kids or treating them like trash, would have such a bad team. The mindset there seems to be, if you're not the best, don't even bother competing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jay Rob
()
Date: October 28, 2013 12:15PM
Chantilly over Robinson? Robinson is red hot. Chantilly is starting to fizzle out kinda like they did back in 2011.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
oakton fan
()
Date: October 28, 2013 03:20PM
Robinson and Chantilly should be a close game. Having just seen Oakton lose to both, I think Robinson is the more balanced team. While Chantilly has some good players, it's pretty clear that Raeshawn Smith is far and away their best player, and if Robinson can control Rae on offense and special teams, they should be in a good position. (Robinson won't throw the ball in his direction on defense).
Robinson has some decent weapons on offense (no longer Joe Wilson = 45 carries), and their D is decent. They are also bigger than Chantilly up front (Jake Pinkston is a beast).
Oakton could have competed with both, but stupid turnovers on the wrong end of the fields and horrific O-line play in between the tackles, contributed to Oakton losing to both. It will be a long offseason unfortunately for the boys on Sutton Road.
Robinson has some decent weapons on offense (no longer Joe Wilson = 45 carries), and their D is decent. They are also bigger than Chantilly up front (Jake Pinkston is a beast).
Oakton could have competed with both, but stupid turnovers on the wrong end of the fields and horrific O-line play in between the tackles, contributed to Oakton losing to both. It will be a long offseason unfortunately for the boys on Sutton Road.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: October 28, 2013 05:35PM
Football2013 Wrote:
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> These sites always crack me up!! Centreville and
> Lake Braddock are going to run the show all the
> way to states! Ask Oscar Smith and Battlefield
> what they think about that Centreville and
> Braddock fans.
>
> There are a lot of people out there doubting South
> County this Friday against Lake Braddock, Lake
> Braddock kids talking all kinds of crap on Twitter
> about how they are going to crush South County.
> That is okay because sites like these are made for
> ignorant people with nothing else to do but talk
> crap about a team they know nothing about. South
> County likes being in the shadowns of your
> ignorant comments, and will be ready to play this
> Friday against Lake Braddock.
>
> Everyone out there is focusing on the wrong
> things. This is a championship game against two
> rival schools. You can throw records, scoring,
> and comments out of the window. This game is
> going to come down to who wants it more, and who
> is willing to sell out during the week in
> practice. All that talking, and not one of you
> have probably ever strapped on pads and a helmet
> and actually played a football game. Please keep
> talking because all you are doing is adding fuel
> to the fire. South County will be ready to play
> against Lake Braddock Friday night, you can count
> on that!!
>
> Let the kids play, and keep your ignorant comments
> to yourself!!
>
> SoCoPride!!
Am hoping for another good game between these rivals. LB has won 6 of 7:
2012: 36-21
2911: 7-10 SoCo win
2010: 13-6
2009: 27-3
2008: 31-14
2097: 21-17
2006: 7-0
Saw SoCo play TC; they have a good QB and team speed and look to be much better than last year's team that got blown out by Yorktown in playoffs. I don't know if they can hang with LB, but I am going Fri expecting to see a good game. It's stupid to say that SoCo can't play given what the team already has done this year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> These sites always crack me up!! Centreville and
> Lake Braddock are going to run the show all the
> way to states! Ask Oscar Smith and Battlefield
> what they think about that Centreville and
> Braddock fans.
>
> There are a lot of people out there doubting South
> County this Friday against Lake Braddock, Lake
> Braddock kids talking all kinds of crap on Twitter
> about how they are going to crush South County.
> That is okay because sites like these are made for
> ignorant people with nothing else to do but talk
> crap about a team they know nothing about. South
> County likes being in the shadowns of your
> ignorant comments, and will be ready to play this
> Friday against Lake Braddock.
>
> Everyone out there is focusing on the wrong
> things. This is a championship game against two
> rival schools. You can throw records, scoring,
> and comments out of the window. This game is
> going to come down to who wants it more, and who
> is willing to sell out during the week in
> practice. All that talking, and not one of you
> have probably ever strapped on pads and a helmet
> and actually played a football game. Please keep
> talking because all you are doing is adding fuel
> to the fire. South County will be ready to play
> against Lake Braddock Friday night, you can count
> on that!!
>
> Let the kids play, and keep your ignorant comments
> to yourself!!
>
> SoCoPride!!
Am hoping for another good game between these rivals. LB has won 6 of 7:
2012: 36-21
2911: 7-10 SoCo win
2010: 13-6
2009: 27-3
2008: 31-14
2097: 21-17
2006: 7-0
Saw SoCo play TC; they have a good QB and team speed and look to be much better than last year's team that got blown out by Yorktown in playoffs. I don't know if they can hang with LB, but I am going Fri expecting to see a good game. It's stupid to say that SoCo can't play given what the team already has done this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
high school ref
()
Date: October 28, 2013 08:39PM
Eastern VA fan wrote Am hoping for another good game between these rivals. LB has won 6 of 7:
2012: 36-21
2911: 7-10 SoCo win
2010: 13-6
2009: 27-3
2008: 31-14 wrong hereXXXXXXX
2097: 21-17
2006: 7-0
Correction 5 of 7 SOCO also won in 2008 32-27
2012: 36-21
2911: 7-10 SoCo win
2010: 13-6
2009: 27-3
2008: 31-14 wrong hereXXXXXXX
2097: 21-17
2006: 7-0
Correction 5 of 7 SOCO also won in 2008 32-27
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Lake braddock
()
Date: October 28, 2013 09:50PM
I've already paid the refs off to give us great calls HAHAHAHHAHA SOCO sucks
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: October 29, 2013 05:57AM
high school ref Wrote:
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> Eastern VA fan wrote Am hoping for another good
> game between these rivals. LB has won 6 of 7:
> 2012: 36-21
> 2911: 7-10 SoCo win
> 2010: 13-6
> 2009: 27-3
> 2008: 31-14 wrong hereXXXXXXX
> 2097: 21-17
> 2006: 7-0
>
> Correction 5 of 7 SOCO also won in 2008 32-27
Thanks, high school ref--my bad. It turns out LB has won 6 of 8. It won 31-14 in 2007, 21-17 in 2006 and 7-0 in 2005. If I just look at the one game I saw (win v. TC) and SoCo's records over time, this year's 7-1 team is one of its best:
2012: 6-6
2011: 11-4 (year moved from D6 to D5)
2010: 4-6
2009: 7-5
2008: 6-5
2007: 6-5
2006: 6-4
2005: 1-9
I'm not sure SoCo can hang with LB this year, but am going because SoCo has a good QB and good team speed. Against TC, they looked MUCH improved over the team Yorktown beat in playoffs last year. Then again, LB's shutout streak is amazing and it has to be considered the favorite by many. Can't wait to see this one.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eastern VA fan wrote Am hoping for another good
> game between these rivals. LB has won 6 of 7:
> 2012: 36-21
> 2911: 7-10 SoCo win
> 2010: 13-6
> 2009: 27-3
> 2008: 31-14 wrong hereXXXXXXX
> 2097: 21-17
> 2006: 7-0
>
> Correction 5 of 7 SOCO also won in 2008 32-27
Thanks, high school ref--my bad. It turns out LB has won 6 of 8. It won 31-14 in 2007, 21-17 in 2006 and 7-0 in 2005. If I just look at the one game I saw (win v. TC) and SoCo's records over time, this year's 7-1 team is one of its best:
2012: 6-6
2011: 11-4 (year moved from D6 to D5)
2010: 4-6
2009: 7-5
2008: 6-5
2007: 6-5
2006: 6-4
2005: 1-9
I'm not sure SoCo can hang with LB this year, but am going because SoCo has a good QB and good team speed. Against TC, they looked MUCH improved over the team Yorktown beat in playoffs last year. Then again, LB's shutout streak is amazing and it has to be considered the favorite by many. Can't wait to see this one.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Critic
()
Date: October 29, 2013 09:17AM
Socos running back comes off an injury that he suffered on the bye week of chant illy. Lake Braddock May not be ready for him to go off.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
.....
()
Date: October 29, 2013 01:32PM
Lake braddock Wrote:
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> I've already paid the refs off to give us great
> calls HAHAHAHHAHA SOCO sucks
Its not like you even had to do that based on the past month. The refs HATE SOCO
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> I've already paid the refs off to give us great
> calls HAHAHAHHAHA SOCO sucks
Its not like you even had to do that based on the past month. The refs HATE SOCO
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimmy Womble
()
Date: October 29, 2013 03:39PM
Will Madison win a game in 2013? It doesn't look good for them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
elelel
()
Date: October 29, 2013 08:17PM
Most likely not. Madison has a Sophomore QB that is somewhat carrying the offense. Cant blame Madison they lost half of their squad and at least 9 of them were All-Liberty district (one 2nd team and 2 northern regions).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
()
Date: October 29, 2013 08:23PM
You can blame Madison and should. They have a bunch of youth league coaches running the program into the ground. They suck because those guys they did lose played both ways. You don't lose 8 you lose 16. They have enough kids and talent to be better. Blow it up and start over.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 30, 2013 11:29AM
Jimmy Womble Wrote:
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> Will Madison win a game in 2013? It doesn't look
> good for them.
Well ofcourse they will win a game, they play Marshall next week and will win by 3 touchdowns.
That being said at a school like Madison this season is unacceptable, and people should and will be fired. I usually say give coaches 3 years, but a season this bad can dismantle a football program and set it back years.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Will Madison win a game in 2013? It doesn't look
> good for them.
Well ofcourse they will win a game, they play Marshall next week and will win by 3 touchdowns.
That being said at a school like Madison this season is unacceptable, and people should and will be fired. I usually say give coaches 3 years, but a season this bad can dismantle a football program and set it back years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The man
()
Date: October 30, 2013 10:19PM
Don't be so sure Madison beats Marshall. Marshall can actually run the ball and can control the clock. Better line and more speed at the skill spots believe it or not. It will be a close game. Madison has a terrible senior class and Marshall is better-coached than the VYI coaches at Madison.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 30, 2013 11:12PM
Marshall hasn't won a game in like 2 years, nor been within 20 of anyone. Madison has played a MUCH tougher schedule (3 concorde schools) and is a bigger school. Trust me it won't be a good game. Marshall has an excuse though, Madison does not, seniors or not at a school of Madison's size they should be competing on a weekly basis in a weaker football district. I don't do spreads a week in advance, but feel pretty safe putting a lock at Madison as a 20 point favorite.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Long time observer
()
Date: October 30, 2013 11:14PM
The man Wrote:
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> Don't be so sure Madison beats Marshall. Marshall
> can actually run the ball and can control the
> clock. Better line and more speed at the skill
> spots believe it or not. It will be a close game.
> Madison has a terrible senior class and Marshall
> is better-coached than the VYI coaches at Madison.
Marshall is fielding probably the worst team that's been in the region for a decade. Madison will still beat them by 3-4 touchdowns, for its only win of the year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Don't be so sure Madison beats Marshall. Marshall
> can actually run the ball and can control the
> clock. Better line and more speed at the skill
> spots believe it or not. It will be a close game.
> Madison has a terrible senior class and Marshall
> is better-coached than the VYI coaches at Madison.
Marshall is fielding probably the worst team that's been in the region for a decade. Madison will still beat them by 3-4 touchdowns, for its only win of the year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Falls Church alumn
()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:23AM
My jaguars will beat Hayfield. The jaguars have uplifted the Falls Church community so much. This years team has so much athleticism and talent everywhere! Daly,Coneys, Dupont, Mulumba, Mejia, Khalek and Gray have all taken their game to the next level this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hammerhawks
()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:39PM
lol hayfield never loses to falls church don't think it'll be any different this year..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Won and Done
()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:51PM
Falls Church alumn Wrote:
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> My jaguars will beat Hayfield. The jaguars have
> uplifted the Falls Church community so much. This
> years team has so much athleticism and talent
> everywhere! Daly,Coneys, Dupont, Mulumba, Mejia,
> Khalek and Gray have all taken their game to the
> next level this year.
You got to love the Jags season! Unfortunately they will play 2 then BBQ!! They cannot hang with the top dogs of 5A. I hope they can win 1 playoff game to keep the good vibe going for one more week! Enjoy it while you can Falls Church! It will only last a maximum of 2 extra weeks
-------------------------------------------------------
> My jaguars will beat Hayfield. The jaguars have
> uplifted the Falls Church community so much. This
> years team has so much athleticism and talent
> everywhere! Daly,Coneys, Dupont, Mulumba, Mejia,
> Khalek and Gray have all taken their game to the
> next level this year.
You got to love the Jags season! Unfortunately they will play 2 then BBQ!! They cannot hang with the top dogs of 5A. I hope they can win 1 playoff game to keep the good vibe going for one more week! Enjoy it while you can Falls Church! It will only last a maximum of 2 extra weeks
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
agreed
()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:55PM
agree, with the poster above. Some of the Loudoun County schools are loaded with talent and depth. With that being said, Falls Church should still beat an underachieving Hayfield team that is coached by a bunch of little league coaches.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mark85
()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:57PM
some schools need to discontinue the football program....marshall, etc.
last season i witnessed them get absolutely punished @ south lakes 53-0 (score after 3rd q)
sitting on the marshall side with my ex (to escape the crowded home side) i heard parents cussing about the coaching staff, players, etc. (happened whole game)
i can't imagine why they don't discontinue the football program....clearly nothing positive is coming out of this
last season i witnessed them get absolutely punished @ south lakes 53-0 (score after 3rd q)
sitting on the marshall side with my ex (to escape the crowded home side) i heard parents cussing about the coaching staff, players, etc. (happened whole game)
i can't imagine why they don't discontinue the football program....clearly nothing positive is coming out of this
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Recipe for 4-36 Seasons
()
Date: October 31, 2013 02:22PM
mark85 Wrote:
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> some schools need to discontinue the football
> program....marshall, etc.
>
> last season i witnessed them get absolutely
> punished @ south lakes 53-0 (score after 3rd q)
>
> sitting on the marshall side with my ex (to escape
> the crowded home side) i heard parents cussing
> about the coaching staff, players, etc. (happened
> whole game)
>
> i can't imagine why they don't discontinue the
> football program....clearly nothing positive is
> coming out of this
Low-rent types from Pimmit Hills who like to argue and get tossed out of games by referees + overprotective helicopter parents from Vienna + illegals = bad football talent.
-------------------------------------------------------
> some schools need to discontinue the football
> program....marshall, etc.
>
> last season i witnessed them get absolutely
> punished @ south lakes 53-0 (score after 3rd q)
>
> sitting on the marshall side with my ex (to escape
> the crowded home side) i heard parents cussing
> about the coaching staff, players, etc. (happened
> whole game)
>
> i can't imagine why they don't discontinue the
> football program....clearly nothing positive is
> coming out of this
Low-rent types from Pimmit Hills who like to argue and get tossed out of games by referees + overprotective helicopter parents from Vienna + illegals = bad football talent.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Rocco Socco
()
Date: November 01, 2013 03:17PM
Prediction of the Week.
Lake Braddock 35
South County 7
SoCo can't hang with the big boyz.
Lake Braddock 35
South County 7
SoCo can't hang with the big boyz.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
update..
()
Date: November 01, 2013 08:44PM
Halftime
LB 28
Soco 14
LB 28
Soco 14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tim riggins
()
Date: November 01, 2013 10:05PM
Robinson wins! 29-28 over Chantilly
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hammerhawks
()
Date: November 01, 2013 10:18PM
hayfield handles falls church just like every other year......LOL at everyone who thought they were going to win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FHS grad
()
Date: November 01, 2013 11:09PM
Stone Bridge won a nail biter 33-28
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Marshall fan
()
Date: November 01, 2013 11:33PM
Did Marshall really beat South Lakes 38-7?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
No
()
Date: November 01, 2013 11:42PM
Marshall fan Wrote:
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> Did Marshall really beat South Lakes 38-7?
No other way around 38-7 south lakes
-------------------------------------------------------
> Did Marshall really beat South Lakes 38-7?
No other way around 38-7 south lakes
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dyslexic Footballers
()
Date: November 01, 2013 11:45PM
No, South Lakes beat the hapless Statesmen 38-7.
All that's left is a loss to Madison to nail down two consecutive 0-10 seasons.
It will be tough, but they will pull it off.
All that's left is a loss to Madison to nail down two consecutive 0-10 seasons.
It will be tough, but they will pull it off.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Not Surprised
()
Date: November 02, 2013 12:04AM
Not surprised SB barely beat Fairfax in a close game, before the game I thought Fairfax could even win. Sb lost the second half to South Lakes last week. Did it again tonight with Fairfax. The SB secondary has been getting torched all year starting with game 1 against LB. SB will only win round 1 of the playoffs this year and it will be for many reasons most of all their secondary can't play more than likely because they have not been coached on how to play better.Rejoice Fairfaxunderground SB talk will end early this year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FHS grad
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Date: November 02, 2013 01:08AM
Man I was there the last play was dead silent we all where dead slient and a sad end to one of our best seasons since w2001
Not Surprised Wrote
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> Not surprised SB barely beat Fairfax in a close
> game, before the game I thought Fairfax could even
> win. Sb lost the second half to South Lakes last
> week. Did it again tonight with Fairfax. The SB
> secondary has been getting torched all year
> starting with game 1 against LB. SB will only win
> round 1 of the playoffs this year and it will be
> for many reasons most of all their secondary can't
> play more than likely because they have not been
> coached on how to play better.Rejoice
> Fairfaxunderground SB talk will end early this
> year
Not Surprised Wrote
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> Not surprised SB barely beat Fairfax in a close
> game, before the game I thought Fairfax could even
> win. Sb lost the second half to South Lakes last
> week. Did it again tonight with Fairfax. The SB
> secondary has been getting torched all year
> starting with game 1 against LB. SB will only win
> round 1 of the playoffs this year and it will be
> for many reasons most of all their secondary can't
> play more than likely because they have not been
> coached on how to play better.Rejoice
> Fairfaxunderground SB talk will end early this
> year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NR Fanatic
()
Date: November 02, 2013 06:52AM
What happened in the Robinson-Chantilly game? Score wise looked like a fantastic game as predicted on here. I assume Chantilly will still make the playoffs but with Westfield next week, if they lose that game, how low can they fall in the seeding?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 02, 2013 09:35AM
Here are the unofficial rankings including the games played on November 1.
Lake Braddock 35.66667
2 Centreville 35.11111
3 Westfield 32.77778
4 Langley 31.00000
5 Yorktown 30.77778
6 Washington-Lee 30.44444
7 Patriot 30.11111
8 South County 30.11111
9 T.C. Williams 29.00000
10 Robinson 28.66667
11 Battlefield 28.11111
12 Fairfax 27.66667
13 Stonewall Jackson (Manassas) 27.40000
14 Chantilly 27.11111
15 Hayfield 26.44444
16 South Lakes 26.22222
17 McLean 25.66667
18 West Potomac 25.00000
A couple of items that sort of jumps off of the page when initially looking at these new rankings is that Centreville will be playing for the No. 1 seed as well as the District Title and undefeated regular season when they play Robinson next Friday evening. Also, even with a loss to Westfield, Chantilly would probably only drop to a No. 15 seed in the final ranking. This would be based on probable win by Hayfield and losses by South Lakes Mclean and West Potomac.
Lake Braddock 35.66667
2 Centreville 35.11111
3 Westfield 32.77778
4 Langley 31.00000
5 Yorktown 30.77778
6 Washington-Lee 30.44444
7 Patriot 30.11111
8 South County 30.11111
9 T.C. Williams 29.00000
10 Robinson 28.66667
11 Battlefield 28.11111
12 Fairfax 27.66667
13 Stonewall Jackson (Manassas) 27.40000
14 Chantilly 27.11111
15 Hayfield 26.44444
16 South Lakes 26.22222
17 McLean 25.66667
18 West Potomac 25.00000
A couple of items that sort of jumps off of the page when initially looking at these new rankings is that Centreville will be playing for the No. 1 seed as well as the District Title and undefeated regular season when they play Robinson next Friday evening. Also, even with a loss to Westfield, Chantilly would probably only drop to a No. 15 seed in the final ranking. This would be based on probable win by Hayfield and losses by South Lakes Mclean and West Potomac.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Purple Knight
()
Date: November 02, 2013 10:03AM
The 16 team playoff is interesting, but it leads to a lot more flawed rankings than the old format. Chantilly and then Oakton are better than quite a few of the teams seeded 6 through 16, yet Chantilly may be a 15 seed and Oakton is likely out of the playoffs.
While I do think if Chantilly falls to the 15 seed, they will most certainly be out against Lake Braddock, Lake Braddock still must be bummed having to play a quality team like Chantilly, who just barely lost the last two games losing to Yorktown by 2 and Robinson by 1. Aside from Centreville and Lake Braddock, Chantilly is more than capable of beating anyone in the region, and Westfield-Chantilly is going to be awesome next week.
While I do think if Chantilly falls to the 15 seed, they will most certainly be out against Lake Braddock, Lake Braddock still must be bummed having to play a quality team like Chantilly, who just barely lost the last two games losing to Yorktown by 2 and Robinson by 1. Aside from Centreville and Lake Braddock, Chantilly is more than capable of beating anyone in the region, and Westfield-Chantilly is going to be awesome next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 02, 2013 10:18AM
Annandale @ West Potomac (-21.0)
*West Potomac won 39-28 and did not cover the spread.
Edison (-10.0) @ Stuart
*Edison won 42-10.
Falls Church @ Hayfield (-6.0) *Upset pick and a game of the week
*Hayfield wins 28-26; called the upset and that this game would be one of the best this week, but Hayfield did not cover the spread.
Herndon @ Centreville (-45.0)
*Centreville won 56-20; but did not cover the spread.
Langley (-28.0) @ Madison
*Langley won 49-14 and covered the spread.
Lee @ Woodson (-6.5)
*Woodson won 28-7; they are putting together some good football the past few weeks and Coach just may be buying himself another year. As an outside observer they have gotten a little bit better each of the 3 years under Dishun.
McLean (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*McLean won 41-20.
Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0) *Game of the Week
*Robinson won 29-28
South County @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
*Patriot District Championship Game so it does deserve some hype for sure. I think South County will break Lake Braddock’s 21 scoreless quarter streak, but won’t score that much. My arguments for why Braddock is so heavily favored are posted above in some comments. This will be the best atmosphere of the week by far which is always a major consideration when picking a game to attend, but I think if you want a close football game with high playoff implications, Robinson @ Chantilly is the one to be at.
South Lakes (-31.0) @ Marshall
*South Lakes won 38-7; nailed this spread.
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ Fairfax
*Stone Bridge won 33-28; Fairfax battled hard.
TC Williams (-28.0) @ West Springfield
*TC Williams won 14-10. They look so good some weeks, and then others you ask how the hell did they struggle so much against weak competition? TC Williams is a pretender this year.
Washington Lee (-20.0) @ Wakefield
Washington Lee won 56-21.
Westfield (-21.0) @ Oakton
Westfield won 35-7.
Yorktown (-24.0) @ Mount Vernon
Yorktown won 31-21.
*West Potomac won 39-28 and did not cover the spread.
Edison (-10.0) @ Stuart
*Edison won 42-10.
Falls Church @ Hayfield (-6.0) *Upset pick and a game of the week
*Hayfield wins 28-26; called the upset and that this game would be one of the best this week, but Hayfield did not cover the spread.
Herndon @ Centreville (-45.0)
*Centreville won 56-20; but did not cover the spread.
Langley (-28.0) @ Madison
*Langley won 49-14 and covered the spread.
Lee @ Woodson (-6.5)
*Woodson won 28-7; they are putting together some good football the past few weeks and Coach just may be buying himself another year. As an outside observer they have gotten a little bit better each of the 3 years under Dishun.
McLean (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*McLean won 41-20.
Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0) *Game of the Week
*Robinson won 29-28
South County @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
*Patriot District Championship Game so it does deserve some hype for sure. I think South County will break Lake Braddock’s 21 scoreless quarter streak, but won’t score that much. My arguments for why Braddock is so heavily favored are posted above in some comments. This will be the best atmosphere of the week by far which is always a major consideration when picking a game to attend, but I think if you want a close football game with high playoff implications, Robinson @ Chantilly is the one to be at.
South Lakes (-31.0) @ Marshall
*South Lakes won 38-7; nailed this spread.
Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ Fairfax
*Stone Bridge won 33-28; Fairfax battled hard.
TC Williams (-28.0) @ West Springfield
*TC Williams won 14-10. They look so good some weeks, and then others you ask how the hell did they struggle so much against weak competition? TC Williams is a pretender this year.
Washington Lee (-20.0) @ Wakefield
Washington Lee won 56-21.
Westfield (-21.0) @ Oakton
Westfield won 35-7.
Yorktown (-24.0) @ Mount Vernon
Yorktown won 31-21.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Realist
()
Date: November 02, 2013 10:47AM
Woodson will more than likely end this season 2-8 for the 3rd season in a row. 3-7 at best. During that time he's had players who had talent enough to become QB at UVA, WR at Richmond, another D1 WR this season, and many successful D2 players. Yet, he goes 2-8 every year. most schools that go 2-8 every year don't have that kind of talent. The guy can't coach. It's in the W's.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hay
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Date: November 02, 2013 01:01PM
I sure heard a lot of chatter from Falls Church this past week.
What happened?
"crickets, crickets...."
What happened?
"crickets, crickets...."
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Lighten up on the jags
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Date: November 02, 2013 01:23PM
Hay Wrote:
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> I sure heard a lot of chatter from Falls Church
> this past week.
>
> What happened?
>
> "crickets, crickets...."
Not at Falls Church, but have to be happy to see a small school like Falls Church without a deep pool of kids to draw upon to field a team put together a nice season. And there's no big rivalry between Falls Church and Hayfield, so you just sound like a twerp.
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> I sure heard a lot of chatter from Falls Church
> this past week.
>
> What happened?
>
> "crickets, crickets...."
Not at Falls Church, but have to be happy to see a small school like Falls Church without a deep pool of kids to draw upon to field a team put together a nice season. And there's no big rivalry between Falls Church and Hayfield, so you just sound like a twerp.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
perplexed
()
Date: November 02, 2013 02:52PM
Confused that Stonewall is considered "still in the running" as they have already completed their season and with a total of 27.4 they would surely be bumped after the final games played
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
....
()
Date: November 02, 2013 04:13PM
SC had about 600 yards of offense and yet only scored 21 points......
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
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Date: November 02, 2013 05:56PM
.... Wrote:
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> SC had about 600 yards of offense and yet only
> scored 21 points......
Yeah, SoCo's O looked good--smart QB, quick reads on the option and team speed. Too many penalties and TOs on a night when its D had lapses in coverage, didn't plug run gaps and waived at the QB when he ran. Much credit to LB--balance on both sides of the ball and decent kicking last night.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2013 05:56PM by EasternVaFan.
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> SC had about 600 yards of offense and yet only
> scored 21 points......
Yeah, SoCo's O looked good--smart QB, quick reads on the option and team speed. Too many penalties and TOs on a night when its D had lapses in coverage, didn't plug run gaps and waived at the QB when he ran. Much credit to LB--balance on both sides of the ball and decent kicking last night.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2013 05:56PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
jimmy the greek.....not!
()
Date: November 02, 2013 08:50PM
WTF?
How can you call an upset by picking Hayfield, even though the spread was Hayfield favored by 6? If you're picking an upset of the week, then you would be picking the team that is not favored!
Are you retarded?
How can you call an upset by picking Hayfield, even though the spread was Hayfield favored by 6? If you're picking an upset of the week, then you would be picking the team that is not favored!
Are you retarded?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
obvi
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Date: November 02, 2013 09:17PM
^^^this is obviously a threat full of parents that know little to none lol
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: November 02, 2013 09:38PM
jimmy the greek.....not! Wrote:
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> WTF?
> How can you call an upset by picking Hayfield,
> even though the spread was Hayfield favored by 6?
> If you're picking an upset of the week, then you
> would be picking the team that is not favored!
> Are you retarded?
You do know the spreads are my picks and these aren't actual ones coming in from Vegas? I picked Hayfield to win by 6, which is considered an upset, that isn't some magical line I am going by... On paper most people would have picked Falls Church and if it was a real line, they probably would have been favored.
Regardless of your confusion, there is never a need to throw around the retard word and I feel extremely strong about that. Chill the hell out.
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> WTF?
> How can you call an upset by picking Hayfield,
> even though the spread was Hayfield favored by 6?
> If you're picking an upset of the week, then you
> would be picking the team that is not favored!
> Are you retarded?
You do know the spreads are my picks and these aren't actual ones coming in from Vegas? I picked Hayfield to win by 6, which is considered an upset, that isn't some magical line I am going by... On paper most people would have picked Falls Church and if it was a real line, they probably would have been favored.
Regardless of your confusion, there is never a need to throw around the retard word and I feel extremely strong about that. Chill the hell out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Stonebridge12
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Date: November 03, 2013 11:04AM
Fairfax gave us all we could handle and they threw it all over the field, we were not ready for that thought they would just run #2 all night. Our line killed them at the end when it mattered we knocked them off the ball.
Falls Church @ Hayfield November 1, 2013
Posted by:
Stuart Borris
()
Date: November 03, 2013 11:19AM
I went to this game because my daughter came from Island Creek Elementary to participate in the Hayfield junior cheerleader event. She enjoyed herself and had a great experience with the Hayfield cheerleaders. As her dad, I loved seeing that. The interesting thing is this turned out to be the most exciting and thrilling high school football game I have ever witnessed in person. It really was. Early on it was all Falls Church. They were running and passing the ball well and pushing Hayfield around. To be honest, Hayfield did not look ready to play at times. They allowed blocked a field goal and they botched a handoff on offense that resulted in a fumble deep in their own territory. Falls Church dominated and took a 20-0 lead. And then I heard somebody get angry on the Hayfield sideline, yelling at the top of his lungs. Right after that, everything changed. Hayfield scored 28 unanswered points. It started at the very end of the first half. On 3rd and 8 at around their own 10 yard line, Hayfield threw 90+ yard touchdown bomb. Then got another touchdown early in the 3rd. Then picked off the throw from the Falls church QB, which lead to another touchdown they got on on 3rd and goal. Hayfield's last touchdown was another well thrown long bomb down the right sideline, in which the receiver broke a tackle and trotted into the endzone. It was a thrilling to watch how this game turned. Hayfield took control 28-20. However, Falls Church came back had people biting their nails when it got a touchdown with 20 seconds left. All they needed was the 2 point conversion to tie it. Falls Churched approached the line for the attempt. The band beat on their drums and Hayfield's crowd began to stomp and yell for the defense. It was a tense moment. Falls Church then went for the 2 by bulldozing a run up the middle. But Hayfield's defense stood them up and secured the 28-26 win. Everyone on the Hayfield side yelled and cheered. It was a thrilling win for Hayfield's players and their crowd. The Falls Church players went to their knees were understandably dejected. The old cliché "The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat" applies here. I myself was very happy because I saw my daughter enjoy herself with the cheerleaders and saw the most exciting high school game of my life. I attended WT Woodson in the 1980s, but I never saw a thrilling game like this. Thank You Hayfield, you made a fun night!!
SJB
SJB
Football - Falls Church @ Hayfield. November 1, 2013
Posted by:
Stuart Borris
()
Date: November 03, 2013 11:24AM
I went to this game because my daughter came from Island Creek Elementary to participate in the Hayfield junior cheerleader event. She enjoyed herself and had a great experience with the Hayfield cheerleaders. As her dad, I loved seeing that. The interesting thing is this turned out to be the most exciting and thrilling high school football game I have ever witnessed in person. It really was. Early on it was all Falls Church. They were running and passing the ball well and pushing Hayfield around. To be honest, Hayfield did not look ready to play at times. The Hawks allowed blocked a field goal and they botched a handoff on offense that resulted in a fumble deep in their own territory. Falls Church dominated and took a 20-0 lead. And then I heard somebody get angry on the Hayfield sideline, yelling at the top of his lungs. Right after that, everything changed. Hayfield scored 28 unanswered points. It started at the very end of the first half. On 3rd and 8 at around their own 10 yard line, Hayfield threw 90+ yard touchdown bomb. Then got another touchdown early in the 3rd. Then picked off the throw from the Falls church QB, which lead to another touchdown they got on on 3rd and goal. Hayfield's last touchdown was another well thrown long bomb down the right sideline, in which the receiver broke a tackle and trotted into the endzone. It was a thrilling to watch how this game turned. Hayfield took control 28-20. However, Falls Church came back had people biting their nails when it got a touchdown with 20 seconds left. All they needed was the 2 point conversion to tie it. Falls Churched approached the line for the attempt. The band beat on their drums and Hayfield's crowd began to stomp and yell for the defense. It was a tense moment. Falls Church then went for the 2 by bulldozing a run up the middle. But Hayfield's defense stood them up and secured the 28-26 win. Everyone on the Hayfield side yelled and cheered. It was a thrilling win for Hayfield's players and their crowd. The Falls Church players went to their knees were understandably dejected. The old cliché "The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat" applies here. I myself was very happy because I saw my daughter enjoy herself with the cheerleaders and saw the most exciting high school game of my life. I attended WT Woodson in the 1980s, but I never saw a thrilling game like this. Thank You Hayfield, you made a fun night!!
SJB
SJB
Falls Church @ Hayfield. Lutz Stadium, Alexandria, VA. November 01, 2013
Posted by:
Stuart Borris
()
Date: November 03, 2013 12:29PM
I went to this game because my daughter came from Island Creek Elementary to participate in the Hayfield junior cheerleader event. She enjoyed herself and had a great experience with the Hayfield cheerleaders. As her dad, I loved seeing that. The interesting thing is this turned out to be the most exciting and thrilling high school football game I have ever witnessed in person. It really was. Early on it was all Falls Church. They were running and passing the ball well and pushing Hayfield around. To be honest, Hayfield did not look ready to play at times. The Hawks allowed a blocked field goal and they botched a handoff on offense that resulted in a fumble deep in their own territory. Falls Church dominated and took a 20-0 lead. And then I heard somebody get angry on the Hayfield sideline, yelling at the top of his lungs. Right after that, everything changed. Hayfield scored 28 unanswered points. It started at the very end of the first half. On 3rd and 8 at around their own 10 yard line, Hayfield threw 90+ yard touchdown bomb. Then got another touchdown early in the 3rd. Then picked off the throw from the Falls church QB, which lead to another touchdown they got on on 3rd and goal. Hayfield's last touchdown was another well thrown long bomb down the right sideline, in which the receiver broke a tackle and trotted into the endzone. It was a thrilling to watch how this game turned. Hayfield took control 28-20. However, Falls Church came back had people biting their nails when it got a touchdown with 20 seconds left. All they needed was the 2 point conversion to tie it. Falls Churched approached the line for the attempt. The band beat on their drums and Hayfield's crowd began to stomp and yell for the defense. It was a tense moment. Falls Church then went for the 2 by bulldozing a run up the middle. But Hayfield's defense stood them up and secured the 28-26 win. Everyone on the Hayfield side yelled and cheered. It was a thrilling win for Hayfield's players and their crowd. The Falls Church players went to their knees were understandably dejected. The old cliché "The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat" applies here. I myself was very happy because I saw my daughter enjoy herself with the cheerleaders and saw the most exciting high school game of my life. I attended WT Woodson in the 1980s, but I never saw a thrilling game like this. Thank You Hayfield, you made a fun night!!
SJB
SJB
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Chuck Bable
()
Date: November 03, 2013 07:49PM
LB vs SOCO: very nicely played game by Lake Braddock but it really disappoints me to see such a good offense be held down by such a crappy defense. Defensive Backs were completely embarrassed with LB coming out on the first drive and burning them for a 50 yard + completion. There is no way SOCO will survive in D6 playoffs is they have no defense what so ever. Obviously SOCO didn't put out the 50+ points that they average but there is just no momentum being created by the defense. Lake Braddocks special teams also put a damper on SOCOs field position. I like SOCO a lot because they are looked at by all the other D6 teams like some crappy team that belongs in D5. I'm
Interested to see how they do in the playoffs. Lake Braddock is beatable. Teams just need to have a solid, mistake free game.
Interested to see how they do in the playoffs. Lake Braddock is beatable. Teams just need to have a solid, mistake free game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:13PM
Chuck Bable Wrote:
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> LB vs SOCO: very nicely played game by Lake
> Braddock but it really disappoints me to see such
> a good offense be held down by such a crappy
> defense. Defensive Backs were completely
> embarrassed with LB coming out on the first drive
> and burning them for a 50 yard + completion. There
> is no way SOCO will survive in D6 playoffs is they
> have no defense what so ever.
Well, I was at the SC-Chantilly game and their secondary was just flat out pretty poor.
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> LB vs SOCO: very nicely played game by Lake
> Braddock but it really disappoints me to see such
> a good offense be held down by such a crappy
> defense. Defensive Backs were completely
> embarrassed with LB coming out on the first drive
> and burning them for a 50 yard + completion. There
> is no way SOCO will survive in D6 playoffs is they
> have no defense what so ever.
Well, I was at the SC-Chantilly game and their secondary was just flat out pretty poor.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:14PM
Lake Braddock is definitely beatable, Westfield almost had them and Centreville is quite a bit better just because they have the athletes in the secondary and the defensive pass rush to really disrupt Lake Braddock.
It wouldn't suprise me if Lake Braddock does get upset before the regional final, but I am really looking forward to Centreville-Lake Braddock if it does happen which I suspect it will.
It wouldn't suprise me if Lake Braddock does get upset before the regional final, but I am really looking forward to Centreville-Lake Braddock if it does happen which I suspect it will.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 03, 2013 09:05PM
I don't think I've ever been this ashamed to make the playoffs before...
Do you realize that as ugly as Robert E. Lee has been this year, with only two rather strange wins to their name, that they will most likely still make the playoffs?
This system needs to be revisited.
Do you realize that as ugly as Robert E. Lee has been this year, with only two rather strange wins to their name, that they will most likely still make the playoffs?
This system needs to be revisited.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Playoff Fan
()
Date: November 03, 2013 10:25PM
There is nothing wrong with letting 16 trams in the playoffs per region, per Division.
Your reward, for example, for earning the 15th or 16th seed in D6 is to get the chance to line up and get beat up on my Centreville or Braddock. The top seeds will not earn a bye, per se, but there sure will get some rest for their starters, while the 8 and 9 seeds duke it out before the winner plays # 1.
Some programs with severe disadvantages, like Falls Church or Lee, get to take their kids on a short trip to a big-time atmosphere. It also allows that many more kids to experience playoff football, and gives schools at least another week to practice and try and get their future starters ready.
Sure, we will see some blowouts early, but at least one or two lower seeds will win every year.
Win - win, as I see it.
Your reward, for example, for earning the 15th or 16th seed in D6 is to get the chance to line up and get beat up on my Centreville or Braddock. The top seeds will not earn a bye, per se, but there sure will get some rest for their starters, while the 8 and 9 seeds duke it out before the winner plays # 1.
Some programs with severe disadvantages, like Falls Church or Lee, get to take their kids on a short trip to a big-time atmosphere. It also allows that many more kids to experience playoff football, and gives schools at least another week to practice and try and get their future starters ready.
Sure, we will see some blowouts early, but at least one or two lower seeds will win every year.
Win - win, as I see it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Playoff Fan
()
Date: November 03, 2013 10:26PM
"teams", not "trams" - sorry for the typo!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 03, 2013 10:32PM
Gotta agree with a well-reasoned statement... wait... can I actually do that on this website?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 03, 2013 10:36PM
Here's an excerpt from the Washington Post a couple of days ago... makes one think...
To explain why the Virginia High School League’s re-jiggered, more-inclusive playoff system might not be such a bad thing, Potomac (Va.) Coach Keith King brushed back a few mental cobwebs and cited the curious case of the 1986 Edison Eagles.
Edison finished the regular season with a mundane 5-4-1 record that year, but ran the gamut in region and state playoffs en route to a Division 5 title.
To explain why the Virginia High School League’s re-jiggered, more-inclusive playoff system might not be such a bad thing, Potomac (Va.) Coach Keith King brushed back a few mental cobwebs and cited the curious case of the 1986 Edison Eagles.
Edison finished the regular season with a mundane 5-4-1 record that year, but ran the gamut in region and state playoffs en route to a Division 5 title.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TOOOfunny
()
Date: November 04, 2013 03:51AM
So...how did THAT prognostication work out for ya ??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wy3kW
()
Date: November 04, 2013 04:23AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Here's an excerpt from the Washington Post a
> couple of days ago... makes one think...
>
> To explain why the Virginia High School League’s
> re-jiggered, more-inclusive playoff system might
> not be such a bad thing, Potomac (Va.) Coach Keith
> King brushed back a few mental cobwebs and cited
> the curious case of the 1986 Edison Eagles.
>
> Edison finished the regular season with a mundane
> 5-4-1 record that year, but ran the gamut in
> region and state playoffs en route to a Division 5
> title.
Edison was such a joke, still is.....and it was Division 5.
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> Here's an excerpt from the Washington Post a
> couple of days ago... makes one think...
>
> To explain why the Virginia High School League’s
> re-jiggered, more-inclusive playoff system might
> not be such a bad thing, Potomac (Va.) Coach Keith
> King brushed back a few mental cobwebs and cited
> the curious case of the 1986 Edison Eagles.
>
> Edison finished the regular season with a mundane
> 5-4-1 record that year, but ran the gamut in
> region and state playoffs en route to a Division 5
> title.
Edison was such a joke, still is.....and it was Division 5.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 07:28AM
wy3kW Wrote:
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>
> Edison was such a joke, still is.....and it was
> Division 5.
Edison won the state championship in 1986. How much better can you be? In case you forget your recent history they also won the region title in 2006 and played an amazing Phoebus team to the wire in the state title game.
Short of building few thousand new homes where there is no more land, Edison will never be a D6.
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>
> Edison was such a joke, still is.....and it was
> Division 5.
Edison won the state championship in 1986. How much better can you be? In case you forget your recent history they also won the region title in 2006 and played an amazing Phoebus team to the wire in the state title game.
Short of building few thousand new homes where there is no more land, Edison will never be a D6.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Stat Boy
()
Date: November 04, 2013 08:21AM
Anyone have the updated power points and playoff seeding?
And why are there so many haters on this thread? You would think that those folks who are always basing anything and everything on this would just avoid coming here.
Maybe they couldmn't make their own team, or get on the field for any meaningful time?
High school sports offers out kids so much in the way of learning how things work in the real world, like selflessness, team work, hard work, reaching and working for your goals. Something many sorely lack in these times of video games, helicopter parents, and our blameless society.
And why are there so many haters on this thread? You would think that those folks who are always basing anything and everything on this would just avoid coming here.
Maybe they couldmn't make their own team, or get on the field for any meaningful time?
High school sports offers out kids so much in the way of learning how things work in the real world, like selflessness, team work, hard work, reaching and working for your goals. Something many sorely lack in these times of video games, helicopter parents, and our blameless society.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 08:43AM
Here is the current standings with one week to ago, along with my personal thoughts in asterisks.
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
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#1. 35.67 (9-0) Lake Braddock (Burke) **FALLS TO 2 SEED?**
#2. 35.11 (9-0) Centreville (Clifton) **RISES TO 1 SEED?**
#3. 32.78 (7-2) Westfield (Chantilly)
#4. 31.00 (7-2) Langley (McLean) **FALLS TO 5 SEED?**
#5. 30.78 (8-1) Yorktown (Arlington) **RISES TO 4 SEED?**
#6. 30.44 (7-2) Washington-Lee (Arlington) **FALLS TO 9 SEED?**
#7. 30.11 (7-2) Patriot (Nokesville) **RISES TO 6 SEED?**
#8. 30.11 (7-2) South County (Lorton) **RISES TO 7 SEED?**
#9. 29.00 (6-3) Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria) **RISES TO 8 SEED?**
#10. 28.67 (7-2) James W. Robinson (Fairfax) **FALLS TO 11 SEED?**
#11. 28.11 (6-3) Battlefield (Haymarket) **FALLS TO 12 SEED?**
#12. 27.67 (6-3) Fairfax (Fairfax) **RISES TO 10 SEED?**
#13. 27.40 (6-4) Stonewall Jackson (Manassas)
#14. 27.11 (5-4) Chantilly (Chantilly) **FALLS TO 15 SEED?**
#15. 26.44 (4-5) Hayfield (Alexandria) **RISES TO 14 SEED?**
#16. 26.22 (5-4) South Lakes (Reston)
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 25.67 (5-4) McLean (McLean)
#18. 25.00 (4-5) West Potomac (Alexandria)
#19. 24.67 (4-5) Oakton (Vienna)
#20. 23.00 (3-6) West Springfield (Springfield)
#21. 22.56 (2-7) Osbourn Park (Manassas)
#22. 22.56 (2-7) Osbourn (Manassas)
#23. 22.11 (2-7) Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax)
#24. 20.67 (1-8) Herndon (Herndon)
#25. 19.56 (1-8) Annandale (Annandale)
#26. 19.56 (0-9) James Madison (Vienna)
Here are the projected first-round games if the playoffs started today:
#16 South Lakes (5-4) at #1 Lake Braddock (9-0)
#15 Hayfield (4-5) at #2 Centreville (9-0)
#14 Chantilly (5-4) at #3 Westfield (7-2)
#13 Stonewall Jackson (6-4) at #4 Langley (7-2)
#12 Fairfax (6-3) at #5 Yorktown (8-1)
#11 Battlefield (6-3) at #6 Washington-Lee (7-2)
#10 James W. Robinson (7-2) at #7 Patriot (7-2)
#9 Thomas C. Williams (6-3) at #8 South County (7-2)
Group 6A North Playoff Standings
-------------------------------------
#1. 35.67 (9-0) Lake Braddock (Burke) **FALLS TO 2 SEED?**
#2. 35.11 (9-0) Centreville (Clifton) **RISES TO 1 SEED?**
#3. 32.78 (7-2) Westfield (Chantilly)
#4. 31.00 (7-2) Langley (McLean) **FALLS TO 5 SEED?**
#5. 30.78 (8-1) Yorktown (Arlington) **RISES TO 4 SEED?**
#6. 30.44 (7-2) Washington-Lee (Arlington) **FALLS TO 9 SEED?**
#7. 30.11 (7-2) Patriot (Nokesville) **RISES TO 6 SEED?**
#8. 30.11 (7-2) South County (Lorton) **RISES TO 7 SEED?**
#9. 29.00 (6-3) Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria) **RISES TO 8 SEED?**
#10. 28.67 (7-2) James W. Robinson (Fairfax) **FALLS TO 11 SEED?**
#11. 28.11 (6-3) Battlefield (Haymarket) **FALLS TO 12 SEED?**
#12. 27.67 (6-3) Fairfax (Fairfax) **RISES TO 10 SEED?**
#13. 27.40 (6-4) Stonewall Jackson (Manassas)
#14. 27.11 (5-4) Chantilly (Chantilly) **FALLS TO 15 SEED?**
#15. 26.44 (4-5) Hayfield (Alexandria) **RISES TO 14 SEED?**
#16. 26.22 (5-4) South Lakes (Reston)
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 25.67 (5-4) McLean (McLean)
#18. 25.00 (4-5) West Potomac (Alexandria)
#19. 24.67 (4-5) Oakton (Vienna)
#20. 23.00 (3-6) West Springfield (Springfield)
#21. 22.56 (2-7) Osbourn Park (Manassas)
#22. 22.56 (2-7) Osbourn (Manassas)
#23. 22.11 (2-7) Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax)
#24. 20.67 (1-8) Herndon (Herndon)
#25. 19.56 (1-8) Annandale (Annandale)
#26. 19.56 (0-9) James Madison (Vienna)
Here are the projected first-round games if the playoffs started today:
#16 South Lakes (5-4) at #1 Lake Braddock (9-0)
#15 Hayfield (4-5) at #2 Centreville (9-0)
#14 Chantilly (5-4) at #3 Westfield (7-2)
#13 Stonewall Jackson (6-4) at #4 Langley (7-2)
#12 Fairfax (6-3) at #5 Yorktown (8-1)
#11 Battlefield (6-3) at #6 Washington-Lee (7-2)
#10 James W. Robinson (7-2) at #7 Patriot (7-2)
#9 Thomas C. Williams (6-3) at #8 South County (7-2)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 08:44AM
Here is the current standings with one week to ago, along with my personal thoughts in asterisks.
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
-------------------------------------
#1. 34.44 (9-0) Massaponax (Fredericksburg)
#2. 31.67 (8-1) Tuscarora (Leesburg) **FALLS TO 4 SEED?**
#3. 31.11 (7-2) Stone Bridge (Ashburn)
#4. 30.33 (8-1) Briar Woods (Ashburn) **RISES TO 2 SEED?**
#5. 29.70 (8-2) North Stafford (Stafford)
#6. 29.56 (6-3) Mountain View (Stafford)
#7. 28.00 (6-3) Albemarle (Charlottesville)
#8. 27.56 (6-3) Broad Run (Ashburn)
#9. 27.22 (6-3) Falls Church (Falls Church)
#10. 25.22 (4-5) Freedom (Woodbridge)
#11. 23.22 (3-6) Potomac (Dumfries)
#12. 23.00 (3-6) Mount Vernon (Alexandria)
#13. 22.56 (4-5) Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria) **FALLS TO 14 SEED?**
#14. 22.11 (4-5) Potomac Falls (Sterling) **RISES TO 13 SEED?**
#15. 21.44 (3-6) Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria) **FALLS TO 16 SEED?**
#16. 21.11 (2-7) Robert E. Lee (Springfield) **RISES TO 15 SEED?**
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 21.00 (2-7) Brooke Point (Stafford)
#18. 19.89 (2-7) Wakefield (Arlington)
#19. 19.33 (2-7) J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church)
#20. 19.22 (2-7) Patrick Henry (Ashland)
#21. 18.67 (1-8) Orange County (Orange)
#22. 17.67 (1-8) Freedom (South Riding)
#23. 17.33 (1-8) Halifax County (South Boston)
#24. 17.22 (0-9) George C. Marshall (Falls Church)
Here are the projected first-round games if the playoffs started today:
#16 Robert E. Lee (2-7) at #1 Massaponax (9-0)
#15 Thomas A. Edison (3-6) at #2 Tuscarora (8-1)
#14 Potomac Falls (4-5) at #3 Stone Bridge (7-2)
#13 Thomas Jefferson (4-5) at #4 Briar Woods (8-1)
#12 Mount Vernon (3-6) at #5 North Stafford (8-2)
#11 Potomac (4-5) at #6 Mountain View (6-3)
#10 Freedom (4-5) at #7 Albemarle (6-3)
#9 Falls Church (6-3) at #8 Broad Run (6-3)
Group 5A North Playoff Standings
-------------------------------------
#1. 34.44 (9-0) Massaponax (Fredericksburg)
#2. 31.67 (8-1) Tuscarora (Leesburg) **FALLS TO 4 SEED?**
#3. 31.11 (7-2) Stone Bridge (Ashburn)
#4. 30.33 (8-1) Briar Woods (Ashburn) **RISES TO 2 SEED?**
#5. 29.70 (8-2) North Stafford (Stafford)
#6. 29.56 (6-3) Mountain View (Stafford)
#7. 28.00 (6-3) Albemarle (Charlottesville)
#8. 27.56 (6-3) Broad Run (Ashburn)
#9. 27.22 (6-3) Falls Church (Falls Church)
#10. 25.22 (4-5) Freedom (Woodbridge)
#11. 23.22 (3-6) Potomac (Dumfries)
#12. 23.00 (3-6) Mount Vernon (Alexandria)
#13. 22.56 (4-5) Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria) **FALLS TO 14 SEED?**
#14. 22.11 (4-5) Potomac Falls (Sterling) **RISES TO 13 SEED?**
#15. 21.44 (3-6) Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria) **FALLS TO 16 SEED?**
#16. 21.11 (2-7) Robert E. Lee (Springfield) **RISES TO 15 SEED?**
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 21.00 (2-7) Brooke Point (Stafford)
#18. 19.89 (2-7) Wakefield (Arlington)
#19. 19.33 (2-7) J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church)
#20. 19.22 (2-7) Patrick Henry (Ashland)
#21. 18.67 (1-8) Orange County (Orange)
#22. 17.67 (1-8) Freedom (South Riding)
#23. 17.33 (1-8) Halifax County (South Boston)
#24. 17.22 (0-9) George C. Marshall (Falls Church)
Here are the projected first-round games if the playoffs started today:
#16 Robert E. Lee (2-7) at #1 Massaponax (9-0)
#15 Thomas A. Edison (3-6) at #2 Tuscarora (8-1)
#14 Potomac Falls (4-5) at #3 Stone Bridge (7-2)
#13 Thomas Jefferson (4-5) at #4 Briar Woods (8-1)
#12 Mount Vernon (3-6) at #5 North Stafford (8-2)
#11 Potomac (4-5) at #6 Mountain View (6-3)
#10 Freedom (4-5) at #7 Albemarle (6-3)
#9 Falls Church (6-3) at #8 Broad Run (6-3)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:24AM
Cardinal District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
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**District champion to be determined Friday night when Forest Park visits Hylton.
#1. Cecil D. Hylton (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 8-1 district, 8-1 overall
#2. Forest Park (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 7-2 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Patriot (Nokesville, 6A-North) -- 7-2 district, 7-2 overall
#4. Battlefield (Haymarket, 6A-North) -- 6-3 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Stonewall Jackson (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 6-4 district, 6-4 overall
#6. Woodbridge (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 5-4 district, 5-4 overall
#7. Freedom (Woodbridge, 5A-North) -- 4-5 district, 4-5 overall
#8. Potomac (Dumfries, 5A-North) -- 3-6 district, 3-6 overall
#9. Osbourn Park (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-7 district, 2-7 overall
#10. Osbourn (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-7 district, 2-7 overall
#11. Gar-Field (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 0-9 district, 0-9 overall
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**District champion to be determined Friday night when Forest Park visits Hylton.
#1. Cecil D. Hylton (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 8-1 district, 8-1 overall
#2. Forest Park (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 7-2 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Patriot (Nokesville, 6A-North) -- 7-2 district, 7-2 overall
#4. Battlefield (Haymarket, 6A-North) -- 6-3 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Stonewall Jackson (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 6-4 district, 6-4 overall
#6. Woodbridge (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 5-4 district, 5-4 overall
#7. Freedom (Woodbridge, 5A-North) -- 4-5 district, 4-5 overall
#8. Potomac (Dumfries, 5A-North) -- 3-6 district, 3-6 overall
#9. Osbourn Park (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-7 district, 2-7 overall
#10. Osbourn (Manassas, 6A-North) -- 2-7 district, 2-7 overall
#11. Gar-Field (Woodbridge, 6A-South) -- 0-9 district, 0-9 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:24AM
Commonwealth District **CHAMPION: MASSAPONAX**
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#1. Massaponax (Fredericksburg, 5A-North) -- 5-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. North Stafford (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 4-2 district, 8-2 overall
#3. Mountain View (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 3-2 district, 6-3 overall
#4. Colonial Forge (Stafford, 6A-South) -- 3-2 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Riverbend (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-4 district, 5-4 overall
#6. Brooke Point (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-7 overall
#7. Stafford (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-4 district, 1-8 overall
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#1. Massaponax (Fredericksburg, 5A-North) -- 5-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. North Stafford (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 4-2 district, 8-2 overall
#3. Mountain View (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 3-2 district, 6-3 overall
#4. Colonial Forge (Stafford, 6A-South) -- 3-2 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Riverbend (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-4 district, 5-4 overall
#6. Brooke Point (Stafford, 5A-North) -- 1-4 district, 2-7 overall
#7. Stafford (Fredericksburg, 6A-South) -- 1-4 district, 1-8 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:25AM
Concorde District **CHAMPION: CENTREVILLE**
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#1. Centreville (Clifton, 6A-North) -- 4-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. Westfield (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 7-2 overall
#3. James W. Robinson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 7-2 overall
#4. Chantilly (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-4 overall
#5. Oakton (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 4-5 overall
#6. Herndon (Herndon, 6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 1-8 overall
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#1. Centreville (Clifton, 6A-North) -- 4-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. Westfield (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 7-2 overall
#3. James W. Robinson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 3-1 district, 7-2 overall
#4. Chantilly (Chantilly, 6A-North) -- 2-2 district, 5-4 overall
#5. Oakton (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 4-5 overall
#6. Herndon (Herndon, 6A-North) -- 0-4 district, 1-8 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:25AM
Liberty District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
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**Langley visits McLean and TJ visits Stone Bridge. Langley must win, and Stone Bridge lose for Langley to take title.
#1. Stone Bridge (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 6-0 district, 7-2 overall
#2. Langley (McLean, 6A-North) -- 5-1 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Fairfax (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 6-3 overall
#4. McLean (McLean, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 5-4 overall
#5. South Lakes (Reston, 6A-North) -- 3-3 district, 5-4 overall
#6. Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-4 district, 4-5 overall
#7. James Madison (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-6 district, 0-9 overall
#7. George C. Marshall (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 0-7 district, 0-9 overall
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2013 11:33AM by nat4lee.
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**Langley visits McLean and TJ visits Stone Bridge. Langley must win, and Stone Bridge lose for Langley to take title.
#1. Stone Bridge (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 6-0 district, 7-2 overall
#2. Langley (McLean, 6A-North) -- 5-1 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Fairfax (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 6-3 overall
#4. McLean (McLean, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 5-4 overall
#5. South Lakes (Reston, 6A-North) -- 3-3 district, 5-4 overall
#6. Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-4 district, 4-5 overall
#7. James Madison (Vienna, 6A-North) -- 0-6 district, 0-9 overall
#7. George C. Marshall (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 0-7 district, 0-9 overall
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2013 11:33AM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:26AM
National District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
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**District champion to be determined Friday night when Washington-Lee visits Yorktown.
#1. Yorktown (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 6-0 district, 8-1 overall
#2. Washington-Lee (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 6-0 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Hayfield (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 4-5 overall
#4. Falls Church (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 3-3 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Mount Vernon (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-4 district, 3-6 overall
#6. Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-4 district, 3-6 overall
#7. J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 2-5 district, 2-7 overall
#8. Wakefield (Arlington, 5A-North) -- 0-6 district, 2-7 overall
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**District champion to be determined Friday night when Washington-Lee visits Yorktown.
#1. Yorktown (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 6-0 district, 8-1 overall
#2. Washington-Lee (Arlington, 6A-North) -- 6-0 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Hayfield (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 4-5 overall
#4. Falls Church (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 3-3 district, 6-3 overall
#5. Mount Vernon (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-4 district, 3-6 overall
#6. Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria, 5A-North) -- 2-4 district, 3-6 overall
#7. J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church, 5A-North) -- 2-5 district, 2-7 overall
#8. Wakefield (Arlington, 5A-North) -- 0-6 district, 2-7 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:26AM
Patriot District **CHAMPION: LAKE BRADDOCK**
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#1. Lake Braddock (Burke, 6A-North) -- 6-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. South County (Lorton, 6A-North) -- 5-1 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 5-3 overall
#4. West Potomac (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 4-5 overall
#5. Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 2-3 district, 2-7 overall
#6. West Springfield (Springfield, 6A-North) -- 2-4 district, 3-6 overall
#7. Robert E. Lee (Springfield, 5A-North) -- 1-5 district, 2-7 overall
#8. Annandale (Annandale, 6A-North) -- 0-6 district, 1-8 overall
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#1. Lake Braddock (Burke, 6A-North) -- 6-0 district, 9-0 overall
#2. South County (Lorton, 6A-North) -- 5-1 district, 7-2 overall
#3. Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 4-2 district, 5-3 overall
#4. West Potomac (Alexandria, 6A-North) -- 3-2 district, 4-5 overall
#5. Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax, 6A-North) -- 2-3 district, 2-7 overall
#6. West Springfield (Springfield, 6A-North) -- 2-4 district, 3-6 overall
#7. Robert E. Lee (Springfield, 5A-North) -- 1-5 district, 2-7 overall
#8. Annandale (Annandale, 6A-North) -- 0-6 district, 1-8 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 04, 2013 11:26AM
Potomac District **CHAMPION UNDETERMINED**
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**District champion to be determined Friday night when Tuscarora visits Briar Woods.
#1. Briar Woods (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 3-0 district, 8-1 overall
#2. Tuscarora (Leesburg, 5A-North) -- 2-1 district, 8-1 overall
#3. Broad Run (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-3 overall
#4. Potomac Falls (Potomac Falls, 5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 4-5 overall
#5. Freedom (South Riding, 5A-North) -- 0-3 district, 1-8 overall
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**District champion to be determined Friday night when Tuscarora visits Briar Woods.
#1. Briar Woods (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 3-0 district, 8-1 overall
#2. Tuscarora (Leesburg, 5A-North) -- 2-1 district, 8-1 overall
#3. Broad Run (Ashburn, 5A-North) -- 2-1 district, 6-3 overall
#4. Potomac Falls (Potomac Falls, 5A-North) -- 1-3 district, 4-5 overall
#5. Freedom (South Riding, 5A-North) -- 0-3 district, 1-8 overall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FFX Fan
()
Date: November 04, 2013 02:21PM
Wasn't able to get to the game, what happened? Were the rebels close to pulling the upset? Why did the FFX coaches wait so long to put Scott at QB?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
IkWatsUp
()
Date: November 04, 2013 06:07PM
SB beat Fairfax 33-28. Fairfax is the 2nd team to post 30 points or more on Stone Bridge this season. Scott was put at QB when Brian Monter injured himself against Westfield. Until that point he was at RB.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
gipper
()
Date: November 04, 2013 06:12PM
Fairfax only scored 28 points on SB , Not over 30. Scott played a great game and should be fun to see how he does in the playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nova watcher 1996
()
Date: November 04, 2013 06:52PM
Big upset this Week in NOVA!
Robinson over Centreville.
"Teacher vs Student"
Centreville hasnt been tested all year, I think Robinson may be the team to do that.
Robinson over Centreville.
"Teacher vs Student"
Centreville hasnt been tested all year, I think Robinson may be the team to do that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 04, 2013 08:32PM
Powerpoint system:
LB—232.0+89.0=321+24(Lee is 5A)+4(Bonus)+2(in-district)=351/10=35.1
Centreville—234+82=316+26+14(Bonus)=356/10=35.6
LB needs three more of the teams they beat to win than the teams Centreville beat in order to gain enough bonus points to pass Centreville in power points.
Matchups in question(-LB means LB has played them, -CV means Cville has
Friday:
LB vs Lee
Cville vs Robinson-LB
TJ vs Stone Bridge-LB
Chantilly-CV vs Westfield-CV, LB
SoCo-LB vs Annandale-LB
West Springfield-CV, LB vs Woodson-LB
Hayfield-CV vs Edison
Oakton-CV vs Herndon-CV
Washington-Lee-CV vs Yorktown
Saturday:
WestPot-LB, CV vs TC-LB, CV
If Centreville and LB both win, Centreville will have the number one seed, because even in the best possible case for LB, their opponents will have only won two more games than Centreville’s opponents.
LB—232.0+89.0=321+24(Lee is 5A)+4(Bonus)+2(in-district)=351/10=35.1
Centreville—234+82=316+26+14(Bonus)=356/10=35.6
LB needs three more of the teams they beat to win than the teams Centreville beat in order to gain enough bonus points to pass Centreville in power points.
Matchups in question(-LB means LB has played them, -CV means Cville has
Friday:
LB vs Lee
Cville vs Robinson-LB
TJ vs Stone Bridge-LB
Chantilly-CV vs Westfield-CV, LB
SoCo-LB vs Annandale-LB
West Springfield-CV, LB vs Woodson-LB
Hayfield-CV vs Edison
Oakton-CV vs Herndon-CV
Washington-Lee-CV vs Yorktown
Saturday:
WestPot-LB, CV vs TC-LB, CV
If Centreville and LB both win, Centreville will have the number one seed, because even in the best possible case for LB, their opponents will have only won two more games than Centreville’s opponents.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What What
()
Date: November 04, 2013 08:39PM
nova watcher 1996 Wrote:
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> Big upset this Week in NOVA!
>
> Robinson over Centreville.
> "Teacher vs Student"
>
> Centreville hasnt been tested all year, I think
> Robinson may be the team to do that.
Centreville's schedule was/is much tougher than Robinson's schedule. However I agree with you, Centreville has not been tested, but it's because they are that good! They won't be tested Friday night either.
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> Big upset this Week in NOVA!
>
> Robinson over Centreville.
> "Teacher vs Student"
>
> Centreville hasnt been tested all year, I think
> Robinson may be the team to do that.
Centreville's schedule was/is much tougher than Robinson's schedule. However I agree with you, Centreville has not been tested, but it's because they are that good! They won't be tested Friday night either.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 04, 2013 08:40PM
nova watcher 1996 Wrote:
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> Big upset this Week in NOVA!
>
> Robinson over Centreville.
> "Teacher vs Student"
>
> Centreville hasnt been tested all year, I think
> Robinson may be the team to do that.
Westfield was certainly a test for Centreville, and they passed it with flying colors. The score, 28-0, did not show how utterly dominant Centreville was. Expect the same fate for Robinson as every other team on Centreville's schedule.
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> Big upset this Week in NOVA!
>
> Robinson over Centreville.
> "Teacher vs Student"
>
> Centreville hasnt been tested all year, I think
> Robinson may be the team to do that.
Westfield was certainly a test for Centreville, and they passed it with flying colors. The score, 28-0, did not show how utterly dominant Centreville was. Expect the same fate for Robinson as every other team on Centreville's schedule.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 04, 2013 09:21PM
I have seen Centreville, Robinson, Lake Braddock, and all of the other contenders play this year. Centreville will beat Robinson by no less than 3 touchdowns and later cruise in playoffs to state semifinals where they will meet Lake Braddock. That should be a good game with Lake Braddock's offense. However, Centreville will win that game by about 10-14 points because they have an equally powerful offense (both running and passing to Lake Braddock's passing game) but also a much better defense than Lake Braddock. Mark it down - Centreville in the state finals in December against either Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith from down south.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 04, 2013 09:34PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I have seen Centreville, Robinson, Lake Braddock,
> and all of the other contenders play this year.
> Centreville will beat Robinson by no less than 3
> touchdowns and later cruise in playoffs to state
> semifinals where they will meet Lake Braddock.
> That should be a good game with Lake Braddock's
> offense. However, Centreville will win that game
> by about 10-14 points because they have an equally
> powerful offense (both running and passing to Lake
> Braddock's passing game) but also a much better
> defense than Lake Braddock. Mark it down -
> Centreville in the state finals in December
> against either Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith from
> down south.
Completely agreed.
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> I have seen Centreville, Robinson, Lake Braddock,
> and all of the other contenders play this year.
> Centreville will beat Robinson by no less than 3
> touchdowns and later cruise in playoffs to state
> semifinals where they will meet Lake Braddock.
> That should be a good game with Lake Braddock's
> offense. However, Centreville will win that game
> by about 10-14 points because they have an equally
> powerful offense (both running and passing to Lake
> Braddock's passing game) but also a much better
> defense than Lake Braddock. Mark it down -
> Centreville in the state finals in December
> against either Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith from
> down south.
Completely agreed.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 04, 2013 09:41PM
Chuck Bable Wrote:
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> LB vs SOCO: very nicely played game by Lake
> Braddock but it really disappoints me to see such
> a good offense be held down by such a crappy
> defense. Defensive Backs were completely
> embarrassed with LB coming out on the first drive
> and burning them for a 50 yard + completion. There
> is no way SOCO will survive in D6 playoffs is they
> have no defense what so ever. Obviously SOCO
> didn't put out the 50+ points that they average
> but there is just no momentum being created by the
> defense. Lake Braddocks special teams also put a
> damper on SOCOs field position. I like SOCO a lot
> because they are looked at by all the other D6
> teams like some crappy team that belongs in D5.
> I'm
> Interested to see how they do in the playoffs.
> Lake Braddock is beatable. Teams just need to have
> a solid, mistake free game.
SOCO has the highest rated offense in the state right now, and they definitely were able to move the ball on Lake Braddock, which has a solid defense (the five shut outs against weak teams don't impress). If not for the turnovers and penalties that hampered several drives, they may have had more scores on LB. But hand it to Lake Braddock for holding this offense to 21 points, which is an accomplishment. Every time the SOCO defense was in there was the immediate threat of a big LB play down the field to a wide open receiver, the RB around the end or a QB draw for a big gain. SOCO defense could not cover down the field, they could not shed blocks, fill gaps or hold the edge, and the were very poor at tackling. Not sure this will improve enough to take them very far in the playoffs. Blocking and tackling. Football 101. Not going to get too far without doing that well.
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> LB vs SOCO: very nicely played game by Lake
> Braddock but it really disappoints me to see such
> a good offense be held down by such a crappy
> defense. Defensive Backs were completely
> embarrassed with LB coming out on the first drive
> and burning them for a 50 yard + completion. There
> is no way SOCO will survive in D6 playoffs is they
> have no defense what so ever. Obviously SOCO
> didn't put out the 50+ points that they average
> but there is just no momentum being created by the
> defense. Lake Braddocks special teams also put a
> damper on SOCOs field position. I like SOCO a lot
> because they are looked at by all the other D6
> teams like some crappy team that belongs in D5.
> I'm
> Interested to see how they do in the playoffs.
> Lake Braddock is beatable. Teams just need to have
> a solid, mistake free game.
SOCO has the highest rated offense in the state right now, and they definitely were able to move the ball on Lake Braddock, which has a solid defense (the five shut outs against weak teams don't impress). If not for the turnovers and penalties that hampered several drives, they may have had more scores on LB. But hand it to Lake Braddock for holding this offense to 21 points, which is an accomplishment. Every time the SOCO defense was in there was the immediate threat of a big LB play down the field to a wide open receiver, the RB around the end or a QB draw for a big gain. SOCO defense could not cover down the field, they could not shed blocks, fill gaps or hold the edge, and the were very poor at tackling. Not sure this will improve enough to take them very far in the playoffs. Blocking and tackling. Football 101. Not going to get too far without doing that well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 04, 2013 09:52PM
I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why Centreville is going to win against Lake Braddock assuming both get to the state semifinals (which no real football fan can deny will likely happen based on the merits of the respective teams this year). Braddock will find a way to put up maybe as much as 21 points against a very good Centreville defense. You have to give it to Caleb Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1 prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they will score a few touchdowns. But they are not going to hang more than that on the Centreville D. On the other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and put 21 up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40 points on LB. Cville's running game is basically unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a much more confident passing attack. Not quite at the level of Lake Braddock but close enough, especially to keep defenses guessing. Prediction for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville 35 Lake Braddock 21.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757baby
()
Date: November 04, 2013 10:58PM
Centerville or Lake Braddock from the north, doesnt matter
Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will shut both teams down.
Oscar Smith shut down Centerville in 2011 to win it all.
They shut down the running game and forced the QB to pass. He couldnt.
Centerville weak link was the QB, this year is no different. When he is forced to pass, he will struggle.
This year the teams from the north are weak and Centerville stats make them look better then they are. I dont see anyone from the north sticking with the south teams. Just trying to keep it real
Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will shut both teams down.
Oscar Smith shut down Centerville in 2011 to win it all.
They shut down the running game and forced the QB to pass. He couldnt.
Centerville weak link was the QB, this year is no different. When he is forced to pass, he will struggle.
This year the teams from the north are weak and Centerville stats make them look better then they are. I dont see anyone from the north sticking with the south teams. Just trying to keep it real
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
703baby
()
Date: November 05, 2013 12:40AM
757baby Wrote:
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> Centerville or Lake Braddock from the north,
> doesnt matter
> Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will shut both teams
> down.
>
> Oscar Smith shut down Centerville in 2011 to win
> it all.
> They shut down the running game and forced the QB
> to pass. He couldnt.
> Centerville weak link was the QB, this year is no
> different. When he is forced to pass, he will
> struggle.
>
> This year the teams from the north are weak and
> Centerville stats make them look better then they
> are. I dont see anyone from the north sticking
> with the south teams. Just trying to keep it real
First off if you saw the game in 2011 you know Centreville lost the States Defensive Player of the Year to a torn ACL as he was sacking the Smith QB in the second Smith offensive series, forcing a dumping call. After that the game plan had to change because Centreville could not get pressure on the QB. If Ekanem had not gotten hurt it would have been a different game.
The other thing is you cannot compare the QB from 2011 to the current QB, this kid has started the last 2 years and is a much better passer than the other kid. In 2011 the QB threw 3 interception and fumbled twice in the Championship game. This current QB has 2 interceptions the entire year while throwing 20 TD passes. Centreville has the Athletes and speed to beat any team from the South.
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> Centerville or Lake Braddock from the north,
> doesnt matter
> Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will shut both teams
> down.
>
> Oscar Smith shut down Centerville in 2011 to win
> it all.
> They shut down the running game and forced the QB
> to pass. He couldnt.
> Centerville weak link was the QB, this year is no
> different. When he is forced to pass, he will
> struggle.
>
> This year the teams from the north are weak and
> Centerville stats make them look better then they
> are. I dont see anyone from the north sticking
> with the south teams. Just trying to keep it real
First off if you saw the game in 2011 you know Centreville lost the States Defensive Player of the Year to a torn ACL as he was sacking the Smith QB in the second Smith offensive series, forcing a dumping call. After that the game plan had to change because Centreville could not get pressure on the QB. If Ekanem had not gotten hurt it would have been a different game.
The other thing is you cannot compare the QB from 2011 to the current QB, this kid has started the last 2 years and is a much better passer than the other kid. In 2011 the QB threw 3 interception and fumbled twice in the Championship game. This current QB has 2 interceptions the entire year while throwing 20 TD passes. Centreville has the Athletes and speed to beat any team from the South.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 12:42AM
Agreed that Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will be a big challenge (heck I admit they might even win), but perhaps you might want to consider the following:
(1) It is spelled Centreville, not Centerville
(2) You might want to watch some film of the QB for Centreville this year, not a "weak link" by any stretch of the imagination. He is big, fast, can run, can pass very well 50+ yards down the field with accuracy, and has been a three year varsity player.
(3) The teams down south have great team speed, something that Centreville and even Lake Braddock have in great quantity this year too. Centreville's defensive backs run 4.4 or 4.5 forty yard dashes (and linebackers in the 4.6 to 4.7 range) so keeping up with the fast receivers from Ocean Lakes for example will be no big deal as perhaps compared to two years ago in the states against Oscar Smith. While the defensive backs are covering those receivers one on one watch out for the 60+ times the defensive line and linebackers have put loss plays behind scrimmage on opposing offenses.
(4) Even if Oscar Smith or Ocean Lakes were to win, there will be no honor in such a win given the admitted recruiting that both teams do outside of their own districts. If they want to win with 757 multi-district all star teams so be it (football gods have a way of sorting that stuff out in the long run), but true football fans would rather win with any school who is just using local, not regional, athletes. Everyone knows what is going on down in that area.
(1) It is spelled Centreville, not Centerville
(2) You might want to watch some film of the QB for Centreville this year, not a "weak link" by any stretch of the imagination. He is big, fast, can run, can pass very well 50+ yards down the field with accuracy, and has been a three year varsity player.
(3) The teams down south have great team speed, something that Centreville and even Lake Braddock have in great quantity this year too. Centreville's defensive backs run 4.4 or 4.5 forty yard dashes (and linebackers in the 4.6 to 4.7 range) so keeping up with the fast receivers from Ocean Lakes for example will be no big deal as perhaps compared to two years ago in the states against Oscar Smith. While the defensive backs are covering those receivers one on one watch out for the 60+ times the defensive line and linebackers have put loss plays behind scrimmage on opposing offenses.
(4) Even if Oscar Smith or Ocean Lakes were to win, there will be no honor in such a win given the admitted recruiting that both teams do outside of their own districts. If they want to win with 757 multi-district all star teams so be it (football gods have a way of sorting that stuff out in the long run), but true football fans would rather win with any school who is just using local, not regional, athletes. Everyone knows what is going on down in that area.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Notsofastmyfriend
()
Date: November 05, 2013 12:47AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why
> Centreville is going to win against Lake Braddock
> assuming both get to the state semifinals (which
> no real football fan can deny will likely happen
> based on the merits of the respective teams this
> year). Braddock will find a way to put up maybe
> as much as 21 points against a very good
> Centreville defense. You have to give it to Caleb
> Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1
> prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they will
> score a few touchdowns. But they are not going to
> hang more than that on the Centreville D. On the
> other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and put 21
> up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40 points
> on LB. Cville's running game is basically
> unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a much
> more confident passing attack. Not quite at the
> level of Lake Braddock but close enough,
> especially to keep defenses guessing. Prediction
> for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville 35
> Lake Braddock 21.
My prediction is the North Championship will be Westfield vs Centreville. Westfield should have beaten Lake Braddock the first time they played them. A final drive interception that was called a no catch saved LB. Henderson will not be as lucky this time and the Bulldogs will get them.
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> I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why
> Centreville is going to win against Lake Braddock
> assuming both get to the state semifinals (which
> no real football fan can deny will likely happen
> based on the merits of the respective teams this
> year). Braddock will find a way to put up maybe
> as much as 21 points against a very good
> Centreville defense. You have to give it to Caleb
> Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1
> prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they will
> score a few touchdowns. But they are not going to
> hang more than that on the Centreville D. On the
> other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and put 21
> up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40 points
> on LB. Cville's running game is basically
> unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a much
> more confident passing attack. Not quite at the
> level of Lake Braddock but close enough,
> especially to keep defenses guessing. Prediction
> for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville 35
> Lake Braddock 21.
My prediction is the North Championship will be Westfield vs Centreville. Westfield should have beaten Lake Braddock the first time they played them. A final drive interception that was called a no catch saved LB. Henderson will not be as lucky this time and the Bulldogs will get them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 12:51AM
I agree Westfield could upset Lake Braddock.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 05, 2013 04:51AM
Who are the injured players of the Centreville squad and what is the nature of the injuries?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Braden Quintyler
()
Date: November 05, 2013 05:58AM
Notsofastmyfriend Wrote:
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why
> > Centreville is going to win against Lake
> Braddock
> > assuming both get to the state semifinals
> (which
> > no real football fan can deny will likely
> happen
> > based on the merits of the respective teams
> this
> > year). Braddock will find a way to put up
> maybe
> > as much as 21 points against a very good
> > Centreville defense. You have to give it to
> Caleb
> > Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1
> > prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they will
> > score a few touchdowns. But they are not going
> to
> > hang more than that on the Centreville D. On
> the
> > other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and put
> 21
> > up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40
> points
> > on LB. Cville's running game is basically
> > unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a
> much
> > more confident passing attack. Not quite at the
> > level of Lake Braddock but close enough,
> > especially to keep defenses guessing.
> Prediction
> > for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville
> 35
> > Lake Braddock 21.
>
>
> My prediction is the North Championship will be
> Westfield vs Centreville. Westfield should have
> beaten Lake Braddock the first time they played
> them. A final drive interception that was called a
> no catch saved LB. Henderson will not be as lucky
> this time and the Bulldogs will get them.
It was week 3 of the season and BOTH teams hadn't gelled yet. However, Westfield has been a one trick pony all season. Thrasher-Walker is a special player and runs the ball at will. Not taking away from him at all. When he is denied the end zone, they have nothing else. Westfield's QB usually completes 1-2 passes per game (exception: last week against Herndon), and their coaching staff relies totally on the run.
Lake Braddock's offense has been extremely balanced and the coaching staff has made adjustments to offset the opposing team's defense. EVERY team has been coached to not give up the big passing plays. LB responds by running the ball. Their RB has surprised teams with how elusive he is. When the run is taken away, LB's receivers tear defenses apart. LB's Henderson appears to play smart and unselfish. And he has the talent to run with defenders hanging off him, take off in the open field, and pass accurately short and deep.
Anyone who's seen these kids play has seen the LB defense pin the other teams. In the first few weeks, the LB D was beginning to come together. Their first three games were Robinson, Stone Bridge, and Westfield. All three of these teams are 7-2. They've each lost to a combination of LB, Centreville, or each other. LB's schedule admittedly got soft after these three games, but has played tough teams in TC Williams and SoCo since. LB shut more than half of their opponents out. MORE THAN HALF! Most of these teams played the entire game on their own side of the field. This year, LB's defense is just as strong as their offense. In the Westfield-LB game, that pick was just the nail in the coffin for Westfield.
I appreciate you, as a fan of Westfield wanting to support your team. IMHO, there's a chance Westfield doesn't even play LB to get to the championships.
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why
> > Centreville is going to win against Lake
> Braddock
> > assuming both get to the state semifinals
> (which
> > no real football fan can deny will likely
> happen
> > based on the merits of the respective teams
> this
> > year). Braddock will find a way to put up
> maybe
> > as much as 21 points against a very good
> > Centreville defense. You have to give it to
> Caleb
> > Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1
> > prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they will
> > score a few touchdowns. But they are not going
> to
> > hang more than that on the Centreville D. On
> the
> > other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and put
> 21
> > up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40
> points
> > on LB. Cville's running game is basically
> > unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a
> much
> > more confident passing attack. Not quite at the
> > level of Lake Braddock but close enough,
> > especially to keep defenses guessing.
> Prediction
> > for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville
> 35
> > Lake Braddock 21.
>
>
> My prediction is the North Championship will be
> Westfield vs Centreville. Westfield should have
> beaten Lake Braddock the first time they played
> them. A final drive interception that was called a
> no catch saved LB. Henderson will not be as lucky
> this time and the Bulldogs will get them.
It was week 3 of the season and BOTH teams hadn't gelled yet. However, Westfield has been a one trick pony all season. Thrasher-Walker is a special player and runs the ball at will. Not taking away from him at all. When he is denied the end zone, they have nothing else. Westfield's QB usually completes 1-2 passes per game (exception: last week against Herndon), and their coaching staff relies totally on the run.
Lake Braddock's offense has been extremely balanced and the coaching staff has made adjustments to offset the opposing team's defense. EVERY team has been coached to not give up the big passing plays. LB responds by running the ball. Their RB has surprised teams with how elusive he is. When the run is taken away, LB's receivers tear defenses apart. LB's Henderson appears to play smart and unselfish. And he has the talent to run with defenders hanging off him, take off in the open field, and pass accurately short and deep.
Anyone who's seen these kids play has seen the LB defense pin the other teams. In the first few weeks, the LB D was beginning to come together. Their first three games were Robinson, Stone Bridge, and Westfield. All three of these teams are 7-2. They've each lost to a combination of LB, Centreville, or each other. LB's schedule admittedly got soft after these three games, but has played tough teams in TC Williams and SoCo since. LB shut more than half of their opponents out. MORE THAN HALF! Most of these teams played the entire game on their own side of the field. This year, LB's defense is just as strong as their offense. In the Westfield-LB game, that pick was just the nail in the coffin for Westfield.
I appreciate you, as a fan of Westfield wanting to support your team. IMHO, there's a chance Westfield doesn't even play LB to get to the championships.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Need to Know
()
Date: November 05, 2013 06:02AM
Can anyone run the stats for me? So excited. Thinking that maybe Falls Church can catch Broad Run for the 8th seed and actually host a playoff game.
I know it is going to be close, but wanted to know all of the bonus points that are available.
Both teams are going to win, and Falls Chirch's opponent ( Stuart) has one more win that Broad Run's ( Freedom - South Riding).
Thanks!
I know it is going to be close, but wanted to know all of the bonus points that are available.
Both teams are going to win, and Falls Chirch's opponent ( Stuart) has one more win that Broad Run's ( Freedom - South Riding).
Thanks!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Northern region fan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 07:50AM
Lake Brad QB is a little above average current skill wise and loads of potential with some future great coaching. I attended 4 of LB games this year and I am impressed with C Henderson's ability to run however he is not very accurate on his intermediate routes. He will hit a couple deep balls a game which is good but he is not close to as good as Michael Nebrich. Henderson reminds me a little more of Stone Bridges QB from last year. They both look good on the QB camp circuit in shorts and t's with strong arms and great size but not accurate arms. Army all American is a little surprising. I am a retired soldier and after seeing Henderson taunting his opponents in the TC game and South County game after he scored I hope he grows up soon and am disappointed that he will represent my service in that game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Northern region fan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:01AM
My son tells me LB QB has slightly sprained ankle and RB has a sprained MCL from the South County game. Centreville also has a couple players a little nicked up. Injuries are the main threat to derailing this potential matchup or overlooking a team in the playoffs that you already beat in the regular season as Westfield did last year with Oakton.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Notsofastmyfriend
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:34AM
Braden Quintyler Wrote:
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> Notsofastmyfriend Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hsfballfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why
> > > Centreville is going to win against Lake
> > Braddock
> > > assuming both get to the state semifinals
> > (which
> > > no real football fan can deny will likely
> > happen
> > > based on the merits of the respective teams
> > this
> > > year). Braddock will find a way to put up
> > maybe
> > > as much as 21 points against a very good
> > > Centreville defense. You have to give it to
> > Caleb
> > > Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1
> > > prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they
> will
> > > score a few touchdowns. But they are not
> going
> > to
> > > hang more than that on the Centreville D. On
> > the
> > > other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and
> put
> > 21
> > > up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40
> > points
> > > on LB. Cville's running game is basically
> > > unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a
> > much
> > > more confident passing attack. Not quite at
> the
> > > level of Lake Braddock but close enough,
> > > especially to keep defenses guessing.
> > Prediction
> > > for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville
> > 35
> > > Lake Braddock 21.
> >
> >
> > My prediction is the North Championship will be
> > Westfield vs Centreville. Westfield should have
> > beaten Lake Braddock the first time they played
> > them. A final drive interception that was called
> a
> > no catch saved LB. Henderson will not be as
> lucky
> > this time and the Bulldogs will get them.
>
> It was week 3 of the season and BOTH teams hadn't
> gelled yet. However, Westfield has been a one
> trick pony all season. Thrasher-Walker is a
> special player and runs the ball at will. Not
> taking away from him at all. When he is denied
> the end zone, they have nothing else. Westfield's
> QB usually completes 1-2 passes per game
> (exception: last week against Herndon), and their
> coaching staff relies totally on the run.
>
> Lake Braddock's offense has been extremely
> balanced and the coaching staff has made
> adjustments to offset the opposing team's defense.
> EVERY team has been coached to not give up the big
> passing plays. LB responds by running the ball.
> Their RB has surprised teams with how elusive he
> is. When the run is taken away, LB's receivers
> tear defenses apart. LB's Henderson appears to
> play smart and unselfish. And he has the talent to
> run with defenders hanging off him, take off in
> the open field, and pass accurately short and
> deep.
>
> Anyone who's seen these kids play has seen the LB
> defense pin the other teams. In the first few
> weeks, the LB D was beginning to come together.
> Their first three games were Robinson, Stone
> Bridge, and Westfield. All three of these teams
> are 7-2. They've each lost to a combination of LB,
> Centreville, or each other. LB's schedule
> admittedly got soft after these three games, but
> has played tough teams in TC Williams and SoCo
> since. LB shut more than half of their opponents
> out. MORE THAN HALF! Most of these teams played
> the entire game on their own side of the field.
> This year, LB's defense is just as strong as their
> offense. In the Westfield-LB game, that pick was
> just the nail in the coffin for Westfield.
>
> I appreciate you, as a fan of Westfield wanting to
> support your team. IMHO, there's a chance
> Westfield doesn't even play LB to get to the
> championships.
Who are you trying to convince here Brandon, me or you? Everyone knows what's happened so far, all I had to see was the SoCo game to know with a balanced Defensive effort LB can be held to less than 30 points and LB cannot stop a strong run game. Westfield will make the adjustments from the first game (better coaching staff) and mix their strong run game with play action to control the ball and win the rematch.
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> Notsofastmyfriend Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hsfballfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I saw the LB/SOCO game too. This is why
> > > Centreville is going to win against Lake
> > Braddock
> > > assuming both get to the state semifinals
> > (which
> > > no real football fan can deny will likely
> > happen
> > > based on the merits of the respective teams
> > this
> > > year). Braddock will find a way to put up
> > maybe
> > > as much as 21 points against a very good
> > > Centreville defense. You have to give it to
> > Caleb
> > > Henderson's arm - he is a definitely a Div 1
> > > prospect (going to UNC) and I expect they
> will
> > > score a few touchdowns. But they are not
> going
> > to
> > > hang more than that on the Centreville D. On
> > the
> > > other hand, if SOCO can gain 500+ yards and
> put
> > 21
> > > up on LB then Centreville will put up 35-40
> > points
> > > on LB. Cville's running game is basically
> > > unstoppable. Plus this year they have added a
> > much
> > > more confident passing attack. Not quite at
> the
> > > level of Lake Braddock but close enough,
> > > especially to keep defenses guessing.
> > Prediction
> > > for prospective State Semifinal - Centreville
> > 35
> > > Lake Braddock 21.
> >
> >
> > My prediction is the North Championship will be
> > Westfield vs Centreville. Westfield should have
> > beaten Lake Braddock the first time they played
> > them. A final drive interception that was called
> a
> > no catch saved LB. Henderson will not be as
> lucky
> > this time and the Bulldogs will get them.
>
> It was week 3 of the season and BOTH teams hadn't
> gelled yet. However, Westfield has been a one
> trick pony all season. Thrasher-Walker is a
> special player and runs the ball at will. Not
> taking away from him at all. When he is denied
> the end zone, they have nothing else. Westfield's
> QB usually completes 1-2 passes per game
> (exception: last week against Herndon), and their
> coaching staff relies totally on the run.
>
> Lake Braddock's offense has been extremely
> balanced and the coaching staff has made
> adjustments to offset the opposing team's defense.
> EVERY team has been coached to not give up the big
> passing plays. LB responds by running the ball.
> Their RB has surprised teams with how elusive he
> is. When the run is taken away, LB's receivers
> tear defenses apart. LB's Henderson appears to
> play smart and unselfish. And he has the talent to
> run with defenders hanging off him, take off in
> the open field, and pass accurately short and
> deep.
>
> Anyone who's seen these kids play has seen the LB
> defense pin the other teams. In the first few
> weeks, the LB D was beginning to come together.
> Their first three games were Robinson, Stone
> Bridge, and Westfield. All three of these teams
> are 7-2. They've each lost to a combination of LB,
> Centreville, or each other. LB's schedule
> admittedly got soft after these three games, but
> has played tough teams in TC Williams and SoCo
> since. LB shut more than half of their opponents
> out. MORE THAN HALF! Most of these teams played
> the entire game on their own side of the field.
> This year, LB's defense is just as strong as their
> offense. In the Westfield-LB game, that pick was
> just the nail in the coffin for Westfield.
>
> I appreciate you, as a fan of Westfield wanting to
> support your team. IMHO, there's a chance
> Westfield doesn't even play LB to get to the
> championships.
Who are you trying to convince here Brandon, me or you? Everyone knows what's happened so far, all I had to see was the SoCo game to know with a balanced Defensive effort LB can be held to less than 30 points and LB cannot stop a strong run game. Westfield will make the adjustments from the first game (better coaching staff) and mix their strong run game with play action to control the ball and win the rematch.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:36AM
Northern region fan Wrote:
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> My son tells me LB QB has slightly sprained ankle
> and RB has a sprained MCL from the South County
> game. Centreville also has a couple players a
> little nicked up. Injuries are the main threat to
> derailing this potential matchup or overlooking a
> team in the playoffs that you already beat in the
> regular season as Westfield did last year with
> Oakton.
I did find a report that Nickens-Yzer is injured but I could not find the nature of the injury. There also appears to be several more injuries that have not been reported.
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> My son tells me LB QB has slightly sprained ankle
> and RB has a sprained MCL from the South County
> game. Centreville also has a couple players a
> little nicked up. Injuries are the main threat to
> derailing this potential matchup or overlooking a
> team in the playoffs that you already beat in the
> regular season as Westfield did last year with
> Oakton.
I did find a report that Nickens-Yzer is injured but I could not find the nature of the injury. There also appears to be several more injuries that have not been reported.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:13AM
Both Nickens-yzer and Tyler Love have shoulder injuries. Love suffered his against W-L, while Nickens-yzer was hurt in the Oakton game. Expect Nickens-yzer back this week or next, and Love next or the week after.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:35AM
Thank you regarding Nickens-Yzer and Love. How about Chase Heiner. I am told he has a knee issue.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Falls Church Home Game?
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:44AM
Sorry, according to my sources, Broad Run will be the 8th seed with a win and Falls Church will be the 9th.
Falls Church on the road to face Broad Run in Ashburn.
I don't like Falls Church's chances to get out of that one with a win.
Nice season, great improvement, but still no playoff win.
Falls Church on the road to face Broad Run in Ashburn.
I don't like Falls Church's chances to get out of that one with a win.
Nice season, great improvement, but still no playoff win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:08AM
Braden Quintyler Wrote:
> However, Westfield has been a one
> trick pony all season. Thrasher-Walker is a
> special player and runs the ball at will. Not
> taking away from him at all. When he is denied
> the end zone, they have nothing else. Westfield's
> QB usually completes 1-2 passes per game
> (exception: last week against Herndon), and their
> coaching staff relies totally on the run.
a) Westfield is a 3-trick pony; Thrasher-Walker, Devon Burns and Evan Gray.
b) Westfield is getting better at the pass (although still very weak). Scoville was 11-15, 155 yards vs. Oakton last week. Nothing to brag about but an improvement.
c) Westfield ran a number of wildcat style plays with Burns at QB vs. Oakton and it worked very well.
If they can pass as well as they did vs. Oakton (not a given) it would help keep defenses a little bit less keyed in on the run.
> However, Westfield has been a one
> trick pony all season. Thrasher-Walker is a
> special player and runs the ball at will. Not
> taking away from him at all. When he is denied
> the end zone, they have nothing else. Westfield's
> QB usually completes 1-2 passes per game
> (exception: last week against Herndon), and their
> coaching staff relies totally on the run.
a) Westfield is a 3-trick pony; Thrasher-Walker, Devon Burns and Evan Gray.
b) Westfield is getting better at the pass (although still very weak). Scoville was 11-15, 155 yards vs. Oakton last week. Nothing to brag about but an improvement.
c) Westfield ran a number of wildcat style plays with Burns at QB vs. Oakton and it worked very well.
If they can pass as well as they did vs. Oakton (not a given) it would help keep defenses a little bit less keyed in on the run.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:36AM
I will be going to the Westfield game on friday vs. 'tilly, will evaluate how both teams look.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:46AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> Thank you regarding Nickens-Yzer and Love. How
> about Chase Heiner. I am told he has a knee
> issue.
I heard knee bursitis, but also that he was playing through it for a good 2 or three weeks. The first game he sat was Oakton, and he hasn't played yet. So far, no very major injuries for Centreville, which is good considering 4-5 players go both ways, at least partially.
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> Thank you regarding Nickens-Yzer and Love. How
> about Chase Heiner. I am told he has a knee
> issue.
I heard knee bursitis, but also that he was playing through it for a good 2 or three weeks. The first game he sat was Oakton, and he hasn't played yet. So far, no very major injuries for Centreville, which is good considering 4-5 players go both ways, at least partially.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FB Scout
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:36PM
Not a bad prediction, you did not account for the high powered SoCo offence.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hhsfball
()
Date: November 05, 2013 02:12PM
Edison spray painted hayfield's press box which lead to all the players talking shit on social media...
You gotta think Hayfield will beat the brains out of edison.
You gotta think Hayfield will beat the brains out of edison.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 05, 2013 02:47PM
And the truth always comes out in the end. Thanks hhsfall.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: November 05, 2013 03:37PM
Cpt. Morgan Wrote:
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> I will be going to the Westfield game on friday
> vs. 'tilly, will evaluate how both teams look.
Hey, CAPT, who are you rooting for?
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> I will be going to the Westfield game on friday
> vs. 'tilly, will evaluate how both teams look.
Hey, CAPT, who are you rooting for?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 07:44PM
703baby Wrote:
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> 757baby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Centerville or Lake Braddock from the north,
> > doesnt matter
> > Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will shut both teams
> > down.
> >
> > Oscar Smith shut down Centerville in 2011 to
> win
> > it all.
> > They shut down the running game and forced the
> QB
> > to pass. He couldnt.
> > Centerville weak link was the QB, this year is
> no
> > different. When he is forced to pass, he will
> > struggle.
> >
> > This year the teams from the north are weak and
> > Centerville stats make them look better then
> they
> > are. I dont see anyone from the north sticking
> > with the south teams. Just trying to keep it
> real
>
>
>
> First off if you saw the game in 2011 you know
> Centreville lost the States Defensive Player of
> the Year to a torn ACL as he was sacking the Smith
> QB in the second Smith offensive series, forcing a
> dumping call. After that the game plan had to
> change because Centreville could not get pressure
> on the QB. If Ekanem had not gotten hurt it would
> have been a different game.
>
> The other thing is you cannot compare the QB from
> 2011 to the current QB, this kid has started the
> last 2 years and is a much better passer than the
> other kid. In 2011 the QB threw 3 interception and
> fumbled twice in the Championship game. This
> current QB has 2 interceptions the entire year
> while throwing 20 TD passes. Centreville has the
> Athletes and speed to beat any team from the
> South.
I saw the 2011 game at UVA. O.Smith's D dominated C'Ville's OL. Had C'Ville's D star not gotten hurt, Smith would have just passed to the flats instead of downfield. C'Ville's backers, CBs and safeties were out of position all day. C'Ville got dominated on both sides of the ball. Did you see the pick six right after halftime? Smith clearly was better that day, 47-21.
This year, it's stupid to argue that the North doesn't have a team that can title. C'Ville and LB have been crushing teams all year. I saw Smith open by waxing Lake Taylor 42-2, which beat SB for the D5 title last year. Smith looked good, but could have a tough time getting out of its bracket. Whichever team comes out of the North will give the South all it can handle. We always to go UVA and just want to see a good game.
-------------------------------------------------------
> 757baby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Centerville or Lake Braddock from the north,
> > doesnt matter
> > Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will shut both teams
> > down.
> >
> > Oscar Smith shut down Centerville in 2011 to
> win
> > it all.
> > They shut down the running game and forced the
> QB
> > to pass. He couldnt.
> > Centerville weak link was the QB, this year is
> no
> > different. When he is forced to pass, he will
> > struggle.
> >
> > This year the teams from the north are weak and
> > Centerville stats make them look better then
> they
> > are. I dont see anyone from the north sticking
> > with the south teams. Just trying to keep it
> real
>
>
>
> First off if you saw the game in 2011 you know
> Centreville lost the States Defensive Player of
> the Year to a torn ACL as he was sacking the Smith
> QB in the second Smith offensive series, forcing a
> dumping call. After that the game plan had to
> change because Centreville could not get pressure
> on the QB. If Ekanem had not gotten hurt it would
> have been a different game.
>
> The other thing is you cannot compare the QB from
> 2011 to the current QB, this kid has started the
> last 2 years and is a much better passer than the
> other kid. In 2011 the QB threw 3 interception and
> fumbled twice in the Championship game. This
> current QB has 2 interceptions the entire year
> while throwing 20 TD passes. Centreville has the
> Athletes and speed to beat any team from the
> South.
I saw the 2011 game at UVA. O.Smith's D dominated C'Ville's OL. Had C'Ville's D star not gotten hurt, Smith would have just passed to the flats instead of downfield. C'Ville's backers, CBs and safeties were out of position all day. C'Ville got dominated on both sides of the ball. Did you see the pick six right after halftime? Smith clearly was better that day, 47-21.
This year, it's stupid to argue that the North doesn't have a team that can title. C'Ville and LB have been crushing teams all year. I saw Smith open by waxing Lake Taylor 42-2, which beat SB for the D5 title last year. Smith looked good, but could have a tough time getting out of its bracket. Whichever team comes out of the North will give the South all it can handle. We always to go UVA and just want to see a good game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 05, 2013 07:51PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Agreed that Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will be a
> big challenge (heck I admit they might even win),
> but perhaps you might want to consider the
> following:
>
> (1) It is spelled Centreville, not Centerville
> (2) You might want to watch some film of the QB
> for Centreville this year, not a "weak link" by
> any stretch of the imagination. He is big, fast,
> can run, can pass very well 50+ yards down the
> field with accuracy, and has been a three year
> varsity player.
> (3) The teams down south have great team speed,
> something that Centreville and even Lake Braddock
> have in great quantity this year too.
> Centreville's defensive backs run 4.4 or 4.5 forty
> yard dashes (and linebackers in the 4.6 to 4.7
> range) so keeping up with the fast receivers from
> Ocean Lakes for example will be no big deal as
> perhaps compared to two years ago in the states
> against Oscar Smith. While the defensive backs
> are covering those receivers one on one watch out
> for the 60+ times the defensive line and
> linebackers have put loss plays behind scrimmage
> on opposing offenses.
> (4) Even if Oscar Smith or Ocean Lakes were to
> win, there will be no honor in such a win given
> the admitted recruiting that both teams do outside
> of their own districts. If they want to win with
> 757 multi-district all star teams so be it
> (football gods have a way of sorting that stuff
> out in the long run), but true football fans would
> rather win with any school who is just using
> local, not regional, athletes. Everyone knows what
> is going on down in that area.
"Everyone knows what is going on down in that area?"
Have you ever been to an ER game?
Do you know about the rivalries there?
All-star teams from the ER? Get real.
That doesn't happen up here at all, right?
Your schools and communities here have some advantages of their own.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Agreed that Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith will be a
> big challenge (heck I admit they might even win),
> but perhaps you might want to consider the
> following:
>
> (1) It is spelled Centreville, not Centerville
> (2) You might want to watch some film of the QB
> for Centreville this year, not a "weak link" by
> any stretch of the imagination. He is big, fast,
> can run, can pass very well 50+ yards down the
> field with accuracy, and has been a three year
> varsity player.
> (3) The teams down south have great team speed,
> something that Centreville and even Lake Braddock
> have in great quantity this year too.
> Centreville's defensive backs run 4.4 or 4.5 forty
> yard dashes (and linebackers in the 4.6 to 4.7
> range) so keeping up with the fast receivers from
> Ocean Lakes for example will be no big deal as
> perhaps compared to two years ago in the states
> against Oscar Smith. While the defensive backs
> are covering those receivers one on one watch out
> for the 60+ times the defensive line and
> linebackers have put loss plays behind scrimmage
> on opposing offenses.
> (4) Even if Oscar Smith or Ocean Lakes were to
> win, there will be no honor in such a win given
> the admitted recruiting that both teams do outside
> of their own districts. If they want to win with
> 757 multi-district all star teams so be it
> (football gods have a way of sorting that stuff
> out in the long run), but true football fans would
> rather win with any school who is just using
> local, not regional, athletes. Everyone knows what
> is going on down in that area.
"Everyone knows what is going on down in that area?"
Have you ever been to an ER game?
Do you know about the rivalries there?
All-star teams from the ER? Get real.
That doesn't happen up here at all, right?
Your schools and communities here have some advantages of their own.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sport4fun
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:06PM
I tend to agree with that other post. Have heard from friends down there that the 757 teams do high school football harm with a lot of shady recruiting of players from other weaker schools to create a few super teams. Maybe there should be a full investigation....not good stuff
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hardplay
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:11PM
Yeppers, heard same thing about them bad teams down there. Stop playing high school down there and send them to college program already???!!??!?!?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ladyloveslife
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:18PM
Wow just came here to see if my 'tilly Chargers have a chance this year. Did not know about all the cheating in VA football south. Sorry to hear that happens...go then any team from the North (esp Chantilly!!!!)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cheaters???
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:46PM
It's not just down south...
Check and see how many players on Lake Braddock's roster actually live in the Lake Braddock district!
Check and see how many players on Lake Braddock's roster actually live in the Lake Braddock district!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??????
()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:50PM
A lot of lb players got "banged up" when they played soco. I imagine that they won't want to see soco in the playoffs
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BigWhitey
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:02PM
So what do you guys think are going to be the best games this Friday? I myself will head over to the Langley/McLean game cause I live in the area. It's a classic, grimy rivalry that will be a fun one to watch especially considering the playoff implications, the biggest one being simply if McLean wins(them being squarely on the bubble at #17), then most likely they're in. And while most people wouldn't give McLean a chance, I'll throw out that Langley's run defense has been very mediocre at best and that Langley and McLean both beat Madison by a margin of 35.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:08PM
I'll be going to watch Briar Woods playing Tuscarora, but I'm just a 5A lover.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FoxDog
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:17PM
Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger, overall competition and team quality wise?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:24PM
FoxDog Wrote:
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> Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger,
> overall competition and team quality wise?
Well, 6A generally has a larger student body, more athletes to select teams from, more community resources to draw upon. That's why the state keeps the teams seperated into the groups by student enrollment to keep the playoffs fair.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger,
> overall competition and team quality wise?
Well, 6A generally has a larger student body, more athletes to select teams from, more community resources to draw upon. That's why the state keeps the teams seperated into the groups by student enrollment to keep the playoffs fair.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Not Doc Walker
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:33PM
BigWhitey Wrote:
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> So what do you guys think are going to be the best
> games this Friday? I myself will head over to the
> Langley/McLean game cause I live in the area. It's
> a classic, grimy rivalry that will be a fun one to
> watch especially considering the playoff
> implications, the biggest one being simply if
> McLean wins(them being squarely on the bubble at
> #17), then most likely they're in. And while most
> people wouldn't give McLean a chance, I'll throw
> out that Langley's run defense has been very
> mediocre at best and that Langley and McLean both
> beat Madison by a margin of 35.
Take it to the house, or bank... Langley will roll, 42 - 13.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So what do you guys think are going to be the best
> games this Friday? I myself will head over to the
> Langley/McLean game cause I live in the area. It's
> a classic, grimy rivalry that will be a fun one to
> watch especially considering the playoff
> implications, the biggest one being simply if
> McLean wins(them being squarely on the bubble at
> #17), then most likely they're in. And while most
> people wouldn't give McLean a chance, I'll throw
> out that Langley's run defense has been very
> mediocre at best and that Langley and McLean both
> beat Madison by a margin of 35.
Take it to the house, or bank... Langley will roll, 42 - 13.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr Money
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:33PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> FoxDog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger,
> > overall competition and team quality wise?
>
>
> Well, 6A generally has a larger student body, more
> athletes to select teams from, more community
> resources to draw upon. That's why the state
> keeps the teams seperated into the groups by
> student enrollment to keep the playoffs fair.
That is very true. However there have been some recent exceptions like a soco and Yorktown
-------------------------------------------------------
> FoxDog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger,
> > overall competition and team quality wise?
>
>
> Well, 6A generally has a larger student body, more
> athletes to select teams from, more community
> resources to draw upon. That's why the state
> keeps the teams seperated into the groups by
> student enrollment to keep the playoffs fair.
That is very true. However there have been some recent exceptions like a soco and Yorktown
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hardplay
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:41PM
Dem Braddock boys too - Momma always says cheaters never posper
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by: Cheaters??? ()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:46PM
It's not just down south...
Check and see how many players on Lake Braddock's roster actually live in the Lake Braddock district!
edit by Cary (the admin): About 10 posts by this user, all senseless and most starting with "Momma says", have been removed from this thread. The offending user has been banned for 7 days for "crapflooding" the Fairfax General forum.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2013 01:01PM by Cary.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by: Cheaters??? ()
Date: November 05, 2013 08:46PM
It's not just down south...
Check and see how many players on Lake Braddock's roster actually live in the Lake Braddock district!
edit by Cary (the admin): About 10 posts by this user, all senseless and most starting with "Momma says", have been removed from this thread. The offending user has been banned for 7 days for "crapflooding" the Fairfax General forum.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2013 01:01PM by Cary.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Earl Deeton
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:56PM
Cheaters??? Wrote:
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> It's not just down south...
>
> Check and see how many players on Lake Braddock's
> roster actually live in the Lake Braddock
> district!
Do tell, "Cheaters???", expose them, maybe we can serve those real cheaters justice yet!
Every year, people claim this school or that school brings people in from out of their district to play. Who is on the Braddock roster that is illegal?
Fess up with proof or shut up.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's not just down south...
>
> Check and see how many players on Lake Braddock's
> roster actually live in the Lake Braddock
> district!
Do tell, "Cheaters???", expose them, maybe we can serve those real cheaters justice yet!
Every year, people claim this school or that school brings people in from out of their district to play. Who is on the Braddock roster that is illegal?
Fess up with proof or shut up.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:20PM
This thread just went from being very good argument about 703 and 757 teams to making almost no sense... I think you mean "prosper", not "posper"?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yesum
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:42PM
SOCO cheats too. They have playas on the rooster that don't live in they're school district.
Someone gonna squeal!! They's gonna pay.
Someone gonna squeal!! They's gonna pay.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:44PM
Can we please get this thread back onto topic?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Please...
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Date: November 05, 2013 11:57PM
...Don't feed the troll.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 06, 2013 12:28AM
Mr Money Wrote:
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> nat4lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FoxDog Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger,
> > > overall competition and team quality wise?
> >
> >
> > Well, 6A generally has a larger student body,
> more
> > athletes to select teams from, more community
> > resources to draw upon. That's why the state
> > keeps the teams seperated into the groups by
> > student enrollment to keep the playoffs fair.
>
> That is very true. However there have been some
> recent exceptions like a soco and Yorktown
Yeah, Soco and Yorktown trade more on speed and deception, not power. That has been true the past 2-3 years with Soco's option and Yorktown's speed on O. The bigger schools tend to trade more on power, e.g., the Concord teams that have done so well up here and at states.
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> nat4lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FoxDog Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Do you think 5A or 6A football is stronger,
> > > overall competition and team quality wise?
> >
> >
> > Well, 6A generally has a larger student body,
> more
> > athletes to select teams from, more community
> > resources to draw upon. That's why the state
> > keeps the teams seperated into the groups by
> > student enrollment to keep the playoffs fair.
>
> That is very true. However there have been some
> recent exceptions like a soco and Yorktown
Yeah, Soco and Yorktown trade more on speed and deception, not power. That has been true the past 2-3 years with Soco's option and Yorktown's speed on O. The bigger schools tend to trade more on power, e.g., the Concord teams that have done so well up here and at states.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 06, 2013 05:29AM
I was under the impression that it was not necessarily an issue of cheating but of the standards for transferring that is used by the Northern Region vs. the more liberal standards that are used in the 757 area.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Stat Boy
()
Date: November 06, 2013 09:07AM
Can anyone help me out with power points?
I need to try and make arrangements on several different levels so as to not miss my son's game.
A. Does Broad Run hold off Falls Church for # 8 seed and home game assuming they and Falls Church both win ( which is very likely)?
B. Briar Woods is going to defeat Tuscarora and Stone Bridge will defeat Thomas Jefferson. Does Briar have enouh points to pass Tuscarora? Same with Stone Bridge?
C. Is TJ in line to play Stone Bridge this week, then again next week?
Briar Woods/Stone Bridge likely to play in semi's. What a game! The only better match-up that could come up that week would be Centreville- Braddock, but I don't think you get that match-up until the following week.
North teams are very solid this year, but path to state championships blocked by the south at D6, D5, and D4. Oscar Smith, Bird, and winner of Lake Taylor and Phoebus all going to take home the hardware.
I need to try and make arrangements on several different levels so as to not miss my son's game.
A. Does Broad Run hold off Falls Church for # 8 seed and home game assuming they and Falls Church both win ( which is very likely)?
B. Briar Woods is going to defeat Tuscarora and Stone Bridge will defeat Thomas Jefferson. Does Briar have enouh points to pass Tuscarora? Same with Stone Bridge?
C. Is TJ in line to play Stone Bridge this week, then again next week?
Briar Woods/Stone Bridge likely to play in semi's. What a game! The only better match-up that could come up that week would be Centreville- Braddock, but I don't think you get that match-up until the following week.
North teams are very solid this year, but path to state championships blocked by the south at D6, D5, and D4. Oscar Smith, Bird, and winner of Lake Taylor and Phoebus all going to take home the hardware.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 06, 2013 09:22AM
Stat Boy Wrote:
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> Can anyone help me out with power points?
>
> I need to try and make arrangements on several
> different levels so as to not miss my son's game.
>
> A. Does Broad Run hold off Falls Church for # 8
> seed and home game assuming they and Falls Church
> both win ( which is very likely)?
>
> B. Briar Woods is going to defeat Tuscarora and
> Stone Bridge will defeat Thomas Jefferson. Does
> Briar have enouh points to pass Tuscarora? Same
> with Stone Bridge?
>
> C. Is TJ in line to play Stone Bridge this week,
> then again next week?
The simple answer to all your questions is YES. Broad Run and Falls Church should keep their seeding. Tuscarora and Briar Woods should trade places in the standings. Stone Bridge and TJ will be playing two weeks in a row. But the beauty of football is that we still have to actually play out the games, and anything can and does happen!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Can anyone help me out with power points?
>
> I need to try and make arrangements on several
> different levels so as to not miss my son's game.
>
> A. Does Broad Run hold off Falls Church for # 8
> seed and home game assuming they and Falls Church
> both win ( which is very likely)?
>
> B. Briar Woods is going to defeat Tuscarora and
> Stone Bridge will defeat Thomas Jefferson. Does
> Briar have enouh points to pass Tuscarora? Same
> with Stone Bridge?
>
> C. Is TJ in line to play Stone Bridge this week,
> then again next week?
The simple answer to all your questions is YES. Broad Run and Falls Church should keep their seeding. Tuscarora and Briar Woods should trade places in the standings. Stone Bridge and TJ will be playing two weeks in a row. But the beauty of football is that we still have to actually play out the games, and anything can and does happen!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Steve K2
()
Date: November 06, 2013 10:40AM
Rivalry week (Chantilly vs. Westfield, McLean vs. Langley, Hayfield vs. Edison, Washington Lee vs. Yorktown and even Marshall vs. Madison; then a huge game Robinson vs. Centreville) leads to the best set of games the past month or so to conclude the regular season, with lots of playoff implications. First it is a no brainer Chantilly @ Westfield is the game of the week. Don’t let the seedings fool you, these teams are the most even they have been the past several years with very similar scores against common opponents and it is a great rivalry game. Chantilly is coming off a couple really difficult weeks losing to Yorktown by 2, and Robinson by 1 which has them down at the 14 seed right now… A win is a win and a loss a loss, but had a couple plays gone Chantilly’s way those two games they would be the 4 seed right now… I think Chantilly comes out desperate to avoid the 15 or 16 seed and squeaks out a win, in a game very few people are giving them a chance in.
Chantilly (-6.0) @ Westfield
Fairfax (-14.0) @ South Lakes
Hayfield (-10.0) @ Edison
TJ @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
Lake Braddock (-55.0) @ Lee
Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
*This one is very intriguing, Langley should win, but it is a rivalry game, and if McLean wins they are in the playoffs, a loss and they don’t make it. Expect a very fired up Highlanders team.
Marshall @ Madison (-20.0)
*A big rivalry and both teams come in at 0-9. Marshall has had 3 shots against bottom-tier teams with Wakefield, Stuart, and Freedom and lost by double digits in all of them. Madison has played a much tougher schedule against 3 Concorde teams, Chantilly, Oakton, and Robinson and been closer in district games. I think Madison is a lot better, BUT if Marshall hangs around in the first quarter and can run the ball effectively, this may turn out to be an awesome game for pride.
Oakton (-7.0) @ Herndon
*Both teams come into this Concorde matchup winless in district. Herndon has put together a few nice weeks though, offensively, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see an upset here. Taking the safe pick though, with a traditional winning program in Oakton.
Robinson @ Centreville (-28.0)
*if Robinson wins, they earn a share of the Concorde title. No way they do though, Centreville is a few touchdowns better than everyone in the Concorde. You have Westfield, Robinson, and Chantilly at the second tier. Big spread, so hopefully some of you take Robinson.
South County (-42.0) @ Annandale
Stuart @ Falls Church (-28.0)
Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-21.0)
Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-14.0)
West Springfield @ Woodson (-7.0)
* this will be a very close football game if you are in the area and want to see a competitive one.
West Potomac @ TC Williams (-7.0)
Chantilly (-6.0) @ Westfield
Fairfax (-14.0) @ South Lakes
Hayfield (-10.0) @ Edison
TJ @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
Lake Braddock (-55.0) @ Lee
Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
*This one is very intriguing, Langley should win, but it is a rivalry game, and if McLean wins they are in the playoffs, a loss and they don’t make it. Expect a very fired up Highlanders team.
Marshall @ Madison (-20.0)
*A big rivalry and both teams come in at 0-9. Marshall has had 3 shots against bottom-tier teams with Wakefield, Stuart, and Freedom and lost by double digits in all of them. Madison has played a much tougher schedule against 3 Concorde teams, Chantilly, Oakton, and Robinson and been closer in district games. I think Madison is a lot better, BUT if Marshall hangs around in the first quarter and can run the ball effectively, this may turn out to be an awesome game for pride.
Oakton (-7.0) @ Herndon
*Both teams come into this Concorde matchup winless in district. Herndon has put together a few nice weeks though, offensively, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see an upset here. Taking the safe pick though, with a traditional winning program in Oakton.
Robinson @ Centreville (-28.0)
*if Robinson wins, they earn a share of the Concorde title. No way they do though, Centreville is a few touchdowns better than everyone in the Concorde. You have Westfield, Robinson, and Chantilly at the second tier. Big spread, so hopefully some of you take Robinson.
South County (-42.0) @ Annandale
Stuart @ Falls Church (-28.0)
Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-21.0)
Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-14.0)
West Springfield @ Woodson (-7.0)
* this will be a very close football game if you are in the area and want to see a competitive one.
West Potomac @ TC Williams (-7.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Knighthawk
()
Date: November 06, 2013 10:44AM
Can someone from Lake Braddock shed some light as to why their coach, Jim
Poythress refers to Robinson Head Coach Dan Meier as "Dr. Evil?"
Poythress refers to Robinson Head Coach Dan Meier as "Dr. Evil?"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Loudoun Fan
()
Date: November 06, 2013 11:00AM
Nat4Lee,
You are awesome! Thanks for the confimation, or at least as close to confirmation as we can get.
Very helpful info.
Two cents about games this week? Expect blow-outs in several games that, record-wise, might be close.
Madison by 30 or more against marshall, Fairfax rolls it up on South Lakes, langley smacks McLean by 14 or more, and South Co wins by 50 or more vs hapless Annandale.
Big game in Loudoun, but Briar Woods handles one loss Tuscarora with relative ease.
You are awesome! Thanks for the confimation, or at least as close to confirmation as we can get.
Very helpful info.
Two cents about games this week? Expect blow-outs in several games that, record-wise, might be close.
Madison by 30 or more against marshall, Fairfax rolls it up on South Lakes, langley smacks McLean by 14 or more, and South Co wins by 50 or more vs hapless Annandale.
Big game in Loudoun, but Briar Woods handles one loss Tuscarora with relative ease.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 06, 2013 11:06AM
Unfortunately, I've just been told that it's senior night for hapless Lee, so it looks like I'm going to be stuck watching a 60-0 drubbing by Lake Braddock.
Anyone help a poor fellow out?
Anyone help a poor fellow out?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Panthers
()
Date: November 06, 2013 01:23PM
Can West Potomac still make the playoffs?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Playoffs?Playoffs?
()
Date: November 06, 2013 02:21PM
My understanding is that if WestPo wins, they're in. Of course, that sets up a rematch with either C'Ville or LB, so . . . .
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FCHS76
()
Date: November 06, 2013 03:33PM
Steve K2 Wrote:
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> Rivalry week
>
> Stuart @ Falls Church (-28.0)
>
Jaguars poised to win "the Bell" this year! One of the oldest rivalries in Northern Virginia HS Football...
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> Rivalry week
>
> Stuart @ Falls Church (-28.0)
>
Jaguars poised to win "the Bell" this year! One of the oldest rivalries in Northern Virginia HS Football...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concordefan
()
Date: November 06, 2013 05:17PM
Does anyone know when the all-Concorde picks come out? Will there by any players on either the 1st or 2nd team (not named Reashawn Smith) who are NOT from Westfield or Centreville? Will Oakton and Herndon have anyone at all on those lists?
We all know the stud skill players in the Concorde. Who are the best guys in the trenches on both sides of the ball?
We all know the stud skill players in the Concorde. Who are the best guys in the trenches on both sides of the ball?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
........
()
Date: November 06, 2013 09:01PM
Earl Deeton Wrote:
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> Cheaters??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's not just down south...
> >
> > Check and see how many players on Lake
> Braddock's
> > roster actually live in the Lake Braddock
> > district!
>
> Do tell, "Cheaters???", expose them, maybe we can
> serve those real cheaters justice yet!
>
> Every year, people claim this school or that
> school brings people in from out of their district
> to play. Who is on the Braddock roster that is
> illegal?
>
> Fess up with proof or shut up.
Henderson
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> Cheaters??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's not just down south...
> >
> > Check and see how many players on Lake
> Braddock's
> > roster actually live in the Lake Braddock
> > district!
>
> Do tell, "Cheaters???", expose them, maybe we can
> serve those real cheaters justice yet!
>
> Every year, people claim this school or that
> school brings people in from out of their district
> to play. Who is on the Braddock roster that is
> illegal?
>
> Fess up with proof or shut up.
Henderson
Re: Football Pedophiles of 2013
Posted by:
NCmcW
()
Date: November 06, 2013 09:11PM
McKinley High #1
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 06, 2013 09:18PM
Henderson Family bought a house in the LB districts they didn't cheat. The FF county goes over these like a fine tooth comb. The paperwork has to be approved. This stuff can't happen anymore, give it a rest. If a family buys a house in the zone of the high school, it's legal,besides if a kid wants to play at another school, let them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ryan
()
Date: November 06, 2013 11:10PM
Soco could be the one to beat lake Braddock in the playoffs if they get number 2 healthy when they play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: November 07, 2013 01:27PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Cpt. Morgan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will be going to the Westfield game on friday
> > vs. 'tilly, will evaluate how both teams look.
>
>
> Hey, CAPT, who are you rooting for?
ARGH! This be the captain speaking, I be going for Westfield!
Who you be rootin' for matey?
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> Cpt. Morgan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will be going to the Westfield game on friday
> > vs. 'tilly, will evaluate how both teams look.
>
>
> Hey, CAPT, who are you rooting for?
ARGH! This be the captain speaking, I be going for Westfield!
Who you be rootin' for matey?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wow..
()
Date: November 07, 2013 01:52PM
wait Tuscarora is a 5A powerhouse? they got beat pretty solid in a scrimmage against Edison way back in September.....I was there, they did not look good at all
Re: Pedophiles watch little boys 2013
Posted by:
vPEL9
()
Date: November 07, 2013 02:16PM
wait Tuscarora is a 5A powerhouse?
Yes, of course, you an make a case they they are the best in Virginia.
Prove me wrong.
Yes, of course, you an make a case they they are the best in Virginia.
Prove me wrong.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 07, 2013 02:22PM
wow.. Wrote:
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> wait Tuscarora is a 5A powerhouse? they got beat
> pretty solid in a scrimmage against Edison way
> back in September.....I was there, they did not
> look good at all
That was a SCRIMMAGE prior to the season months ago, and scrimmage scores have little bearing on the regular games. But I will agree I think Briar Woods, Massaponax and Stone Bridge are all much stronger, before I even look at anyone in the beach districts.
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> wait Tuscarora is a 5A powerhouse? they got beat
> pretty solid in a scrimmage against Edison way
> back in September.....I was there, they did not
> look good at all
That was a SCRIMMAGE prior to the season months ago, and scrimmage scores have little bearing on the regular games. But I will agree I think Briar Woods, Massaponax and Stone Bridge are all much stronger, before I even look at anyone in the beach districts.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 07, 2013 03:33PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> wow.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > wait Tuscarora is a 5A powerhouse? they got
> beat
> > pretty solid in a scrimmage against Edison way
> > back in September.....I was there, they did not
> > look good at all
>
>
> That was a SCRIMMAGE prior to the season months
> ago, and scrimmage scores have little bearing on
> the regular games. But I will agree I think Briar
> Woods, Massaponax and Stone Bridge are all much
> stronger, before I even look at anyone in the
> beach districts.
Beach teams might mot be as good at the top as last year except for O. Smith and Ocean Lakes. Saw Smith wax Lake Taylor 44-2 in its opener and am still not sure how to read Phoebus after last year's issues and the 50 point loss to Lake Taylor.
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> wow.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > wait Tuscarora is a 5A powerhouse? they got
> beat
> > pretty solid in a scrimmage against Edison way
> > back in September.....I was there, they did not
> > look good at all
>
>
> That was a SCRIMMAGE prior to the season months
> ago, and scrimmage scores have little bearing on
> the regular games. But I will agree I think Briar
> Woods, Massaponax and Stone Bridge are all much
> stronger, before I even look at anyone in the
> beach districts.
Beach teams might mot be as good at the top as last year except for O. Smith and Ocean Lakes. Saw Smith wax Lake Taylor 44-2 in its opener and am still not sure how to read Phoebus after last year's issues and the 50 point loss to Lake Taylor.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 07, 2013 03:39PM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Beach teams might mot be as good at the top as
> last year except for O. Smith and Ocean Lakes. Saw
> Smith wax Lake Taylor 44-2 in its opener and am
> still not sure how to read Phoebus after last
> year's issues and the 50 point loss to Lake
> Taylor.
Well, I'm not going to cry over the 757. All the better for us right here at home.
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> Beach teams might mot be as good at the top as
> last year except for O. Smith and Ocean Lakes. Saw
> Smith wax Lake Taylor 44-2 in its opener and am
> still not sure how to read Phoebus after last
> year's issues and the 50 point loss to Lake
> Taylor.
Well, I'm not going to cry over the 757. All the better for us right here at home.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 07, 2013 07:24PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Beach teams might mot be as good at the top as
> > last year except for O. Smith and Ocean Lakes.
> Saw
> > Smith wax Lake Taylor 44-2 in its opener and am
> > still not sure how to read Phoebus after last
> > year's issues and the 50 point loss to Lake
> > Taylor.
>
> Well, I'm not going to cry over the 757. All the
> better for us right here at home.
I've only seen the one game ther this year and it was the opener. Whichever 3 teams come out of the North's D6-5-4 should give anybody else a tough game down there in December. We always go because there is virtually no inter-regional play otherwise.
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> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Beach teams might mot be as good at the top as
> > last year except for O. Smith and Ocean Lakes.
> Saw
> > Smith wax Lake Taylor 44-2 in its opener and am
> > still not sure how to read Phoebus after last
> > year's issues and the 50 point loss to Lake
> > Taylor.
>
> Well, I'm not going to cry over the 757. All the
> better for us right here at home.
I've only seen the one game ther this year and it was the opener. Whichever 3 teams come out of the North's D6-5-4 should give anybody else a tough game down there in December. We always go because there is virtually no inter-regional play otherwise.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sleep
()
Date: November 07, 2013 07:50PM
as its been stated many times, any team coming out of northern virginia will get wacked by the black teams from va beach
centreville DOES have a chance though, but they are the only school.
centreville DOES have a chance though, but they are the only school.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
playoffs???
()
Date: November 07, 2013 07:55PM
WOW lee can really make the playoffs? they are 2-7.....
thats atrocious no way should a 2-7 team be allowed to make the post season.
the format needs to be adjusted.
thats atrocious no way should a 2-7 team be allowed to make the post season.
the format needs to be adjusted.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 07, 2013 09:38PM
playoffs??? Wrote:
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> WOW lee can really make the playoffs? they are
> 2-7.....
>
> thats atrocious no way should a 2-7 team be
> allowed to make the post season.
>
> the format needs to be adjusted.
You just quoted my previous post nearly verbatim. And a 2-7 team won't make the playoffs, because Lee will actually be 2-8 (and may not even be the 16th seed, but the 15th?!!) when they lose 60-0 against Lake Braddock. But I will also refer you back to the poster after mine a few days ago that explained why it may not be as bad as you and I think. And he/she/it makes a good case.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/07/2013 09:39PM by nat4lee.
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> WOW lee can really make the playoffs? they are
> 2-7.....
>
> thats atrocious no way should a 2-7 team be
> allowed to make the post season.
>
> the format needs to be adjusted.
You just quoted my previous post nearly verbatim. And a 2-7 team won't make the playoffs, because Lee will actually be 2-8 (and may not even be the 16th seed, but the 15th?!!) when they lose 60-0 against Lake Braddock. But I will also refer you back to the poster after mine a few days ago that explained why it may not be as bad as you and I think. And he/she/it makes a good case.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/07/2013 09:39PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 07, 2013 09:41PM
Here is that post:
Playoff Fan Wrote:
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> There is nothing wrong with letting 16 teams in
> the playoffs per region, per Division.
>
> Your reward, for example, for earning the 15th or
> 16th seed in D6 is to get the chance to line up
> and get beat up on my Centreville or Braddock.
> The top seeds will not earn a bye, per se, but
> there sure will get some rest for their starters,
> while the 8 and 9 seeds duke it out before the
> winner plays # 1.
>
> Some programs with severe disadvantages, like
> Falls Church or Lee, get to take their kids on a
> short trip to a big-time atmosphere. It also
> allows that many more kids to experience playoff
> football, and gives schools at least another week
> to practice and try and get their future starters
> ready.
>
> Sure, we will see some blowouts early, but at
> least one or two lower seeds will win every year.
>
> Win - win, as I see it.
Playoff Fan Wrote:
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> There is nothing wrong with letting 16 teams in
> the playoffs per region, per Division.
>
> Your reward, for example, for earning the 15th or
> 16th seed in D6 is to get the chance to line up
> and get beat up on my Centreville or Braddock.
> The top seeds will not earn a bye, per se, but
> there sure will get some rest for their starters,
> while the 8 and 9 seeds duke it out before the
> winner plays # 1.
>
> Some programs with severe disadvantages, like
> Falls Church or Lee, get to take their kids on a
> short trip to a big-time atmosphere. It also
> allows that many more kids to experience playoff
> football, and gives schools at least another week
> to practice and try and get their future starters
> ready.
>
> Sure, we will see some blowouts early, but at
> least one or two lower seeds will win every year.
>
> Win - win, as I see it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:30PM
Steve K2 Wrote:
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> First it is a no brainer Chantilly
> @ Westfield is the game of the week. Don’t let
> the seedings fool you, these teams are the most
> even they have been the past several years with
> very similar scores against common opponents and
> it is a great rivalry game. Chantilly is coming
> off a couple really difficult weeks losing to
> Yorktown by 2, and Robinson by 1 which has them
> down at the 14 seed right now… A win is a win
> and a loss a loss, but had a couple plays gone
> Chantilly’s way those two games they would be
> the 4 seed right now… I think Chantilly comes
> out desperate to avoid the 15 or 16 seed and
> squeaks out a win, in a game very few people are
> giving them a chance in.
I'd like to agree with you here, everything you say makes sense - but I just haven't seen anything that makes me think Chantilly's defense can get enough stops. They are giving up 29.22 points per game / Westfield's D 14.44.
> Oakton (-7.0) @ Herndon
> *Both teams come into this Concorde matchup
> winless in district. Herndon has put together a
> few nice weeks though, offensively, and it
> wouldn’t surprise me to see an upset here.
> Taking the safe pick though, with a traditional
> winning program in Oakton.
I also think Oakton is ripe for an upset here - I think Bumbrey and Hicks can keep Herndon in this game.
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> First it is a no brainer Chantilly
> @ Westfield is the game of the week. Don’t let
> the seedings fool you, these teams are the most
> even they have been the past several years with
> very similar scores against common opponents and
> it is a great rivalry game. Chantilly is coming
> off a couple really difficult weeks losing to
> Yorktown by 2, and Robinson by 1 which has them
> down at the 14 seed right now… A win is a win
> and a loss a loss, but had a couple plays gone
> Chantilly’s way those two games they would be
> the 4 seed right now… I think Chantilly comes
> out desperate to avoid the 15 or 16 seed and
> squeaks out a win, in a game very few people are
> giving them a chance in.
I'd like to agree with you here, everything you say makes sense - but I just haven't seen anything that makes me think Chantilly's defense can get enough stops. They are giving up 29.22 points per game / Westfield's D 14.44.
> Oakton (-7.0) @ Herndon
> *Both teams come into this Concorde matchup
> winless in district. Herndon has put together a
> few nice weeks though, offensively, and it
> wouldn’t surprise me to see an upset here.
> Taking the safe pick though, with a traditional
> winning program in Oakton.
I also think Oakton is ripe for an upset here - I think Bumbrey and Hicks can keep Herndon in this game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
avrio
()
Date: November 08, 2013 03:54PM
When are the all-districts list coming out? This week or next?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FallsChurch fan
()
Date: November 08, 2013 09:45PM
Falls Church 34- Stuart 13 with 5 minutes left in the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 08, 2013 10:01PM
With CVille's win and Chantilly's loss the first round of the playoffs sets up a very tough and probable first round game between Chantilly and Lake Braddock.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 08, 2013 10:09PM
Chantilly's a tough team - but Wow! - did they ever get a heaping helping of southern hospitality from the officiating tonight vs. Westfield. It's been quite a few years since I have seen such a laundering of one-sided calls. Those dudes had it in for Westfield from the first play of the game and were after it till the final whistle. Must be the crew that was picking on South County the other week... lol...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Upset Alert
()
Date: November 08, 2013 10:38PM
WL just pulled off an upset on Yorktown 10-0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco
()
Date: November 09, 2013 12:00AM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Chantilly's a tough team - but Wow! - did they
> ever get a heaping helping of southern hospitality
> from the officiating tonight vs. Westfield. It's
> been quite a few years since I have seen such a
> laundering of one-sided calls. Those dudes had it
> in for Westfield from the first play of the game
> and were after it till the final whistle. Must be
> the crew that was picking on South County the
> other week... lol...
Finally someone not from south county realizes that the refs in this area cheat
-------------------------------------------------------
> Chantilly's a tough team - but Wow! - did they
> ever get a heaping helping of southern hospitality
> from the officiating tonight vs. Westfield. It's
> been quite a few years since I have seen such a
> laundering of one-sided calls. Those dudes had it
> in for Westfield from the first play of the game
> and were after it till the final whistle. Must be
> the crew that was picking on South County the
> other week... lol...
Finally someone not from south county realizes that the refs in this area cheat
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Chantilly parent
()
Date: November 09, 2013 01:43AM
I think this is the first time since Lalli took over the head coaching job at ChAntilly that they will finish below 500. I think it's safe to say that the class of 2013 was the last good chantilly team well see in a while. They only get worse next year with losing their starting receivers, their whole starting offensive line, and majority of their defense. LB should end their season next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ocb
()
Date: November 09, 2013 08:34AM
Soco-centerville 2nd round
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 09, 2013 08:46AM
Well here were the spread results this week, the former National District threw me off a little bit. Congrats to W&L on their first district title in 38 years!
Chantilly (-6.0) @ Westfield
*Westfield won 20-17. Great game by both teams. Chantilly is very evenly matched with the top-tier teams except for Cville and Lake Braddock. Bummer for the Chargers they’re a 15 seed, and bummer for Braddock too, while I think they’ll take care of business fairly easily against Chantilly, still it sucks to have to play them as the 15 seed when you look at some of the other teams in the mix.
Fairfax (-14.0) @ South Lakes
*Fairfax covered the spread, 24-7
Hayfield (-10.0) @ Edison
*Hayfield won 20-19
TJ @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
*Stone Bridge won 35-6, spread was great here.
Lake Braddock (-55.0) @ Lee
*Lake Braddock won 70-14, spread was awesome here too.
Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
*Langley won 35-12.
Marshall @ Madison (-20.0)
*Madison won 49-18.
Oakton (-7.0) @ Herndon
*Oakton beat Herndon 45-31.
Robinson @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Centreville won 45-9. Another statement for the Wildcats.
South County (-42.0) @ Annandale
*South County won 55-14, super close spread but wrong side.
Stuart @ Falls Church (-28.0)
*Falls Church won 35-13.
Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-21.0)
*Wakefield won 27-19, big surprise here.
Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-14.0)
*W&L wins their first district title in 38 years, and wins the game 10-0. Shutting out Yorktown is amazing, did not see that happening.
West Springfield @ Woodson (-7.0)
* Woodson won 35-0. Finished the year very strong under Dishun and without a doubt I think he saved his job because of it.
Chantilly (-6.0) @ Westfield
*Westfield won 20-17. Great game by both teams. Chantilly is very evenly matched with the top-tier teams except for Cville and Lake Braddock. Bummer for the Chargers they’re a 15 seed, and bummer for Braddock too, while I think they’ll take care of business fairly easily against Chantilly, still it sucks to have to play them as the 15 seed when you look at some of the other teams in the mix.
Fairfax (-14.0) @ South Lakes
*Fairfax covered the spread, 24-7
Hayfield (-10.0) @ Edison
*Hayfield won 20-19
TJ @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
*Stone Bridge won 35-6, spread was great here.
Lake Braddock (-55.0) @ Lee
*Lake Braddock won 70-14, spread was awesome here too.
Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
*Langley won 35-12.
Marshall @ Madison (-20.0)
*Madison won 49-18.
Oakton (-7.0) @ Herndon
*Oakton beat Herndon 45-31.
Robinson @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Centreville won 45-9. Another statement for the Wildcats.
South County (-42.0) @ Annandale
*South County won 55-14, super close spread but wrong side.
Stuart @ Falls Church (-28.0)
*Falls Church won 35-13.
Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-21.0)
*Wakefield won 27-19, big surprise here.
Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-14.0)
*W&L wins their first district title in 38 years, and wins the game 10-0. Shutting out Yorktown is amazing, did not see that happening.
West Springfield @ Woodson (-7.0)
* Woodson won 35-0. Finished the year very strong under Dishun and without a doubt I think he saved his job because of it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Washington Post
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:06AM
Week 10 is (almost) in the books in Virginia high school football, which means the playoff picture is coming into focus. Based on Friday night’s results, here are our best projections for the region playoff fields in Virginia’s largest area classifications.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Washington Post
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:07AM
Virginia 6A North
In: Centreville (10-0), Lake Braddock (10-0), Westfield (8-2), Washington-Lee (8-2), Langley (8-2), Patriot (8-2), Yorktown (8-2), South County (8-2), T.C. Williams (6-3), Fairfax (7-3), Robinson (7-3), Battlefield (6-3), Stonewall Jackson (6-4), Hayfield (27.8), Chantilly (5-5)
In at the moment: South Lakes (5-5)
In with a win: West Potomac (4-5)
Skinny: The 6A North field is just about set, but result of Saturday’s regular-season finale between T.C. Williams and West Potomac will determine who nabs the 16th and final seed. If the Wolverines beat the Titans, they’re in and South Lakes is out. The result of that game will also determine seeding for T.C. Williams. If the Titans win, they would earn the No. 9 seed and travel to Patriot District rival South County for a first-round playoff game. If they lose, they drop to the 12th seed and would have to travel to Langley — a team they beat earlier this year.
Here are the projected first-round matchups (higher seeds host):
No. 1. Centreville vs. No. 16 South Lakes/West Potomac
No. 2 Lake Braddock vs. No. 15 Chantilly
No. 3 Westfield vs. No. 14 Hayfield
No. 4 Washington-Lee vs. No. 13 Stonewall Jackson
No. 5 Langley vs. No. 12 Battlefield
No. 6 Patriot vs. No. 11 Robinson
No. 7 Yorktown vs. No. 10 Fairfax
No. 8 South County vs. No. 9 T.C. Williams (if the Titans beat West Potomac)
In: Centreville (10-0), Lake Braddock (10-0), Westfield (8-2), Washington-Lee (8-2), Langley (8-2), Patriot (8-2), Yorktown (8-2), South County (8-2), T.C. Williams (6-3), Fairfax (7-3), Robinson (7-3), Battlefield (6-3), Stonewall Jackson (6-4), Hayfield (27.8), Chantilly (5-5)
In at the moment: South Lakes (5-5)
In with a win: West Potomac (4-5)
Skinny: The 6A North field is just about set, but result of Saturday’s regular-season finale between T.C. Williams and West Potomac will determine who nabs the 16th and final seed. If the Wolverines beat the Titans, they’re in and South Lakes is out. The result of that game will also determine seeding for T.C. Williams. If the Titans win, they would earn the No. 9 seed and travel to Patriot District rival South County for a first-round playoff game. If they lose, they drop to the 12th seed and would have to travel to Langley — a team they beat earlier this year.
Here are the projected first-round matchups (higher seeds host):
No. 1. Centreville vs. No. 16 South Lakes/West Potomac
No. 2 Lake Braddock vs. No. 15 Chantilly
No. 3 Westfield vs. No. 14 Hayfield
No. 4 Washington-Lee vs. No. 13 Stonewall Jackson
No. 5 Langley vs. No. 12 Battlefield
No. 6 Patriot vs. No. 11 Robinson
No. 7 Yorktown vs. No. 10 Fairfax
No. 8 South County vs. No. 9 T.C. Williams (if the Titans beat West Potomac)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Washington Post
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:07AM
Virginia 5A North
Skinny: This field is set with all team’s having completed their regular seasons on Friday night. Despite a 20-19 loss to Hayfield, Edison just squeaked into the field ahead of Brooke Point to grab the 16th and final spot. How close was it? According to our calculations, the Eagles finished with a 21.6 point rating — as a result of the bonus points they gained by playing 6A Hayfield — while Brooke Point finished with 21.5, following a Friday loss to 5A North top seed Massaponax.
Here are the projected first-round matchups (higher seeds host):
No. 1 Massaponax (10-0) vs. No. 16 Edison (3-7)
No. 2 Stone Bridge (8-2) vs. No. 15 Lee (2-8)
No. 3 Briar Woods (9-1) vs. No. 14. Potomac Falls (4-5)
No. 4 Tuscarora (8-2) vs. No. 13. Mount Vernon (3-7)
No. 5 North Stafford (8-2) vs. No. 12 Jefferson (4-5)
No. 6 Mountain View (7-3) vs. No. 11. Potomac (4-6)
No. 7 Broad Run (7-3) vs. No. 10 Freedom-Woodbridge (4-6)
No. 8 Falls Church (7-3) vs. No. 9 Albemarle (6-4)
Skinny: This field is set with all team’s having completed their regular seasons on Friday night. Despite a 20-19 loss to Hayfield, Edison just squeaked into the field ahead of Brooke Point to grab the 16th and final spot. How close was it? According to our calculations, the Eagles finished with a 21.6 point rating — as a result of the bonus points they gained by playing 6A Hayfield — while Brooke Point finished with 21.5, following a Friday loss to 5A North top seed Massaponax.
Here are the projected first-round matchups (higher seeds host):
No. 1 Massaponax (10-0) vs. No. 16 Edison (3-7)
No. 2 Stone Bridge (8-2) vs. No. 15 Lee (2-8)
No. 3 Briar Woods (9-1) vs. No. 14. Potomac Falls (4-5)
No. 4 Tuscarora (8-2) vs. No. 13. Mount Vernon (3-7)
No. 5 North Stafford (8-2) vs. No. 12 Jefferson (4-5)
No. 6 Mountain View (7-3) vs. No. 11. Potomac (4-6)
No. 7 Broad Run (7-3) vs. No. 10 Freedom-Woodbridge (4-6)
No. 8 Falls Church (7-3) vs. No. 9 Albemarle (6-4)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Washington Post
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:09AM
Virginia 4A North
Skinny: The field is basically set with all but two teams having completed their regular seasons on Friday night. Handley (6-3) will play James Wood (1-8) Saturday to wrap things up, and that result will affect seeding in this region. Heritage barely missed the postseason. The Pride’s 28-7 upset of Loudoun County gave them a 20.2 rating (according to our calculations), which was not enough to catch Amherst County (20.8).
Here are the projected first-round matchups *if Handley defeats James Wood* (higher seeds host):
No. 1 Sherando (9-1) vs. No. 16 Amherst County (3-7)
No. 2 Salem (8-2) vs. No. 15 Fauquier (5-5)
No. 3 Courtland (8-2) vs. No. 14 Glass (4-6)
No. 4 Eastern View (9-1) vs. No. 13 Pulaski County (4-6)
No. 5 George Washington (9-1) vs. No. 12 Charlottesville (5-5)
No. 6 Woodgrove (7-3) vs. No. 11 Loudoun County (5-5)
No. 7 King George (9-2) vs. No. 10 Dominion (6-4)
No. 8 Handley (6-3) vs. No. 9 Liberty (6-4)
Skinny: The field is basically set with all but two teams having completed their regular seasons on Friday night. Handley (6-3) will play James Wood (1-8) Saturday to wrap things up, and that result will affect seeding in this region. Heritage barely missed the postseason. The Pride’s 28-7 upset of Loudoun County gave them a 20.2 rating (according to our calculations), which was not enough to catch Amherst County (20.8).
Here are the projected first-round matchups *if Handley defeats James Wood* (higher seeds host):
No. 1 Sherando (9-1) vs. No. 16 Amherst County (3-7)
No. 2 Salem (8-2) vs. No. 15 Fauquier (5-5)
No. 3 Courtland (8-2) vs. No. 14 Glass (4-6)
No. 4 Eastern View (9-1) vs. No. 13 Pulaski County (4-6)
No. 5 George Washington (9-1) vs. No. 12 Charlottesville (5-5)
No. 6 Woodgrove (7-3) vs. No. 11 Loudoun County (5-5)
No. 7 King George (9-2) vs. No. 10 Dominion (6-4)
No. 8 Handley (6-3) vs. No. 9 Liberty (6-4)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
daMan
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:22AM
those thinking westfield is going anywhere is sadly mistaken. they were thoroughly unimpressive against a .500 Chantilly team last night. could have easily been beaten had Chantilly not had 3 unforced turnovers. as for their qb - tilly coaches had to be praying he would drop back a cple more times.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
casualobserver
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:27AM
My daughters go to robinson and I have watched most of the games on friday nights. It seems like alot of the offenses in this region are very conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton, herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason why? We moved from south carolina last year, and many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and 4 wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone read offense.
Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block, but was just wondering why coaches seem to favor the conservative approach up here.
Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block, but was just wondering why coaches seem to favor the conservative approach up here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
casualobserver2
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:30AM
There are other teams like Lake Braddock, who do spread it around and have alot of success. Why don't more teams have this approach?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
casualobserve3
()
Date: November 09, 2013 12:44PM
Falls Church runs the same offense Lake Braddock does, FC averages about 38 points per game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CoachPerspective
()
Date: November 09, 2013 01:25PM
casualobserver Wrote:
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> My daughters go to robinson and I have watched
> most of the games on friday nights. It seems like
> alot of the offenses in this region are very
> conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton,
> herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to
> run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end
> option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on
> running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason
> why? We moved from south carolina last year, and
> many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and 4
> wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone read
> offense.
>
> Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block,
> but was just wondering why coaches seem to favor
> the conservative approach up here.
One word, SPEED. The vast majority of teams in the area don't have fast enough skill guys to run consistent spread style offenses. By contrast, we have plenty of big strong linemen which allows teams to run the ball effectively.
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> My daughters go to robinson and I have watched
> most of the games on friday nights. It seems like
> alot of the offenses in this region are very
> conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton,
> herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to
> run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end
> option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on
> running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason
> why? We moved from south carolina last year, and
> many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and 4
> wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone read
> offense.
>
> Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block,
> but was just wondering why coaches seem to favor
> the conservative approach up here.
One word, SPEED. The vast majority of teams in the area don't have fast enough skill guys to run consistent spread style offenses. By contrast, we have plenty of big strong linemen which allows teams to run the ball effectively.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:11PM
is anyone at the tc game or know how its going
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RCPINC
()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:32PM
TC winning 24 - 14 with 1:57 left in 4th q
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 09, 2013 04:51PM
daMan Wrote:
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> those thinking westfield is going anywhere is
> sadly mistaken. they were thoroughly unimpressive
> against a .500 Chantilly team last night. could
> have easily been beaten had Chantilly not had 3
> unforced turnovers. as for their qb - tilly
> coaches had to be praying he would drop back a
> cple more times.
Honestly, I think this is the best team Chantilly has had in 4 years. The record is deceiving in some senses as *Chantilly played the most difficult schedule in the region based on opponents wins/losses, and I do think they are better than a .500 team. The 5 opponents they lost to had a combined record of 41-9, and they lost to 3 of those teams by 1, 2, and 3 points. Take a way one of those losses and they're a top 10 seed, 2 and they're a top 7 seed. You are what your record says to some extent, but I commend Chantilly's performances this year and they are right there with Robinson and Westfield as shown by their close games.
-------------------------------------------------------
> those thinking westfield is going anywhere is
> sadly mistaken. they were thoroughly unimpressive
> against a .500 Chantilly team last night. could
> have easily been beaten had Chantilly not had 3
> unforced turnovers. as for their qb - tilly
> coaches had to be praying he would drop back a
> cple more times.
Honestly, I think this is the best team Chantilly has had in 4 years. The record is deceiving in some senses as *Chantilly played the most difficult schedule in the region based on opponents wins/losses, and I do think they are better than a .500 team. The 5 opponents they lost to had a combined record of 41-9, and they lost to 3 of those teams by 1, 2, and 3 points. Take a way one of those losses and they're a top 10 seed, 2 and they're a top 7 seed. You are what your record says to some extent, but I commend Chantilly's performances this year and they are right there with Robinson and Westfield as shown by their close games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 09, 2013 05:02PM
Here are this week's spreads. Honestly don't know a lot of these teams so just made spreads for the sake of spreads. May change as the week goes along.
Division 6
(16) South Lakes @ (1) Centreville (-49.0)
(9) TC Williams @ (8) South County (-14.0)
*This will be a good game, I think in Lorton though, South County will be able to have a fairly easy win.
(13) Stone Wall Jackson @ (4) Washington-Lee (-14.0)
*Don’t know SWJ, just a guess.
(12) Battlefield @ (5) Langley (-6.0) *Awesome game… I think
*I haven’t seen Battlefield this year, but know they’re a fairly successful program in past postseason play. Very tough draw for Langley, wouldn’t be surprised if Battlefield leaves with the W. Tough to have teams in here that haven’t played Northern Region teams… weird.
(15) Chantilly @ (2) Lake Braddock (-20.0)
*An awesome 15 seed, which played the toughest schedule in the region and played most teams right down to the wire. Unfortunately losing by 1, 2, and 3 the last 3 weeks to 3 really good teams sunk them down to 15 where they’re not going to be able to do any damage against Lake Braddock. Still sucks for Braddock though, who I am sure would kill to play Hayfield instead.
(10) Fairfax @ (7) Yorktown (-21.0)
(11) Robinson (-7.0) @ (6) Patriot *Another awesome game!
*I think Patriot is good too, but I’m going with the known team.
(14) Hayfield @ (3) Westfield (-24.0)
Division 5
(16) Edison @ (1) Massaponax (-35.0)
*Who the hell has seen Massaponax?
(9) Albermarle @ (8) Falls Church (-14.0)
*Same goes for Albermarle
(13) Mount Vernon @ (4) Tuscarora (-20.0)
(12) Jefferson @ (5) North Stafford (-28.0)
*North Stafford may be the dark house in this region, have seen tape of them, and they’re pretty legit.
(15) Lee @ (2) Stone Bridge (-45.0)
*2-8 Lee should forfeit. That being said I do commend them on playing a tough schedule.
(10) Freedom Woodbridge @ (7) Broad Run (-14.0)
Division 6
(16) South Lakes @ (1) Centreville (-49.0)
(9) TC Williams @ (8) South County (-14.0)
*This will be a good game, I think in Lorton though, South County will be able to have a fairly easy win.
(13) Stone Wall Jackson @ (4) Washington-Lee (-14.0)
*Don’t know SWJ, just a guess.
(12) Battlefield @ (5) Langley (-6.0) *Awesome game… I think
*I haven’t seen Battlefield this year, but know they’re a fairly successful program in past postseason play. Very tough draw for Langley, wouldn’t be surprised if Battlefield leaves with the W. Tough to have teams in here that haven’t played Northern Region teams… weird.
(15) Chantilly @ (2) Lake Braddock (-20.0)
*An awesome 15 seed, which played the toughest schedule in the region and played most teams right down to the wire. Unfortunately losing by 1, 2, and 3 the last 3 weeks to 3 really good teams sunk them down to 15 where they’re not going to be able to do any damage against Lake Braddock. Still sucks for Braddock though, who I am sure would kill to play Hayfield instead.
(10) Fairfax @ (7) Yorktown (-21.0)
(11) Robinson (-7.0) @ (6) Patriot *Another awesome game!
*I think Patriot is good too, but I’m going with the known team.
(14) Hayfield @ (3) Westfield (-24.0)
Division 5
(16) Edison @ (1) Massaponax (-35.0)
*Who the hell has seen Massaponax?
(9) Albermarle @ (8) Falls Church (-14.0)
*Same goes for Albermarle
(13) Mount Vernon @ (4) Tuscarora (-20.0)
(12) Jefferson @ (5) North Stafford (-28.0)
*North Stafford may be the dark house in this region, have seen tape of them, and they’re pretty legit.
(15) Lee @ (2) Stone Bridge (-45.0)
*2-8 Lee should forfeit. That being said I do commend them on playing a tough schedule.
(10) Freedom Woodbridge @ (7) Broad Run (-14.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NovaFB
()
Date: November 09, 2013 05:03PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> daMan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > those thinking westfield is going anywhere is
> > sadly mistaken. they were thoroughly
> unimpressive
> > against a .500 Chantilly team last night. could
> > have easily been beaten had Chantilly not had 3
> > unforced turnovers. as for their qb - tilly
> > coaches had to be praying he would drop back a
> > cple more times.
>
>
> Honestly, I think this is the best team Chantilly
> has had in 4 years. The record is deceiving in
> some senses as *Chantilly played the most
> difficult schedule in the region based on
> opponents wins/losses, and I do think they are
> better than a .500 team. The 5 opponents they
> lost to had a combined record of 41-9, and they
> lost to 3 of those teams by 1, 2, and 3 points.
> Take a way one of those losses and they're a top
> 10 seed, 2 and they're a top 7 seed. You are what
> your record says to some extent, but I commend
> Chantilly's performances this year and they are
> right there with Robinson and Westfield as shown
> by their close games.
Good teams find a way to win close games Stevek2, but nonetheless you raise a good point. On another note, one of the teams Chantilly lost too (Langley) beat them by around 21. I haven't heard much about their program and they seemed to come out of nowhere this year going 8-2. Whats your opinion on them? do you think they can do anything in the playoffs?
-------------------------------------------------------
> daMan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > those thinking westfield is going anywhere is
> > sadly mistaken. they were thoroughly
> unimpressive
> > against a .500 Chantilly team last night. could
> > have easily been beaten had Chantilly not had 3
> > unforced turnovers. as for their qb - tilly
> > coaches had to be praying he would drop back a
> > cple more times.
>
>
> Honestly, I think this is the best team Chantilly
> has had in 4 years. The record is deceiving in
> some senses as *Chantilly played the most
> difficult schedule in the region based on
> opponents wins/losses, and I do think they are
> better than a .500 team. The 5 opponents they
> lost to had a combined record of 41-9, and they
> lost to 3 of those teams by 1, 2, and 3 points.
> Take a way one of those losses and they're a top
> 10 seed, 2 and they're a top 7 seed. You are what
> your record says to some extent, but I commend
> Chantilly's performances this year and they are
> right there with Robinson and Westfield as shown
> by their close games.
Good teams find a way to win close games Stevek2, but nonetheless you raise a good point. On another note, one of the teams Chantilly lost too (Langley) beat them by around 21. I haven't heard much about their program and they seemed to come out of nowhere this year going 8-2. Whats your opinion on them? do you think they can do anything in the playoffs?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 09, 2013 05:23PM
I did see Langley play Chantilly and I like them a lot. They have the best offensive line in the Northern Region. If they get past Battlefield, which I have not seen play and is historically a very good postseason team, I do think they can beat Westfield. It is just going to be about eating the clock and getting 3-4 yards on every run. If you watched the Standord-Oregon game this week, Langley is capable of doing what Stanford did to Oregon against a lot of teams. I like Westfield's run defense too, but Langley should be able to open up holes right up the gut.
If Langley were to pull up the upset, it would be a very intriguing game against Lake Braddock, as I don't think Lake Braddock could stop their running attack. I would pick Braddock in this one just because I don't think Langley's pass defense will be able to stop Braddock's passing attack. So yes, definitely keep your eye on Langley; but when all is said and done in a few weeks I'm taking the safe picks and fully expect to see Lake Braddock @ Centreville in one of the most anticipated region finals ever!
If Langley were to pull up the upset, it would be a very intriguing game against Lake Braddock, as I don't think Lake Braddock could stop their running attack. I would pick Braddock in this one just because I don't think Langley's pass defense will be able to stop Braddock's passing attack. So yes, definitely keep your eye on Langley; but when all is said and done in a few weeks I'm taking the safe picks and fully expect to see Lake Braddock @ Centreville in one of the most anticipated region finals ever!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
............
()
Date: November 09, 2013 07:58PM
I wonder if centerville can stop socos offense in the 2nd round game( if soco wins)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: November 09, 2013 08:20PM
............ Wrote:
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> I wonder if centerville can stop socos offense in
> the 2nd round game( if soco wins)
centreville would easily be able to stop soco they have soooo much talent
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> I wonder if centerville can stop socos offense in
> the 2nd round game( if soco wins)
centreville would easily be able to stop soco they have soooo much talent
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
............
()
Date: November 09, 2013 08:38PM
football Wrote:
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> ............ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wonder if centerville can stop socos offense
> in
> > the 2nd round game( if soco wins)
>
>
> centreville would easily be able to stop soco they
> have soooo much talent
Apparently sc has the best offense in the state?? i dont really know about that one
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> ............ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wonder if centerville can stop socos offense
> in
> > the 2nd round game( if soco wins)
>
>
> centreville would easily be able to stop soco they
> have soooo much talent
Apparently sc has the best offense in the state?? i dont really know about that one
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hello?"????
()
Date: November 09, 2013 08:39PM
Yesum Wrote:
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> SOCO cheats too. They have playas on the rooster
> that don't live in they're school district.
> Someone gonna squeal!! They's gonna pay.
How does soco cheat?>
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> SOCO cheats too. They have playas on the rooster
> that don't live in they're school district.
> Someone gonna squeal!! They's gonna pay.
How does soco cheat?>
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??????????????????????????
()
Date: November 09, 2013 08:43PM
anyone know where Adam Neff coaches?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 09:21PM
Adam Neff coaches at South County, right? Any particular reason for bringing him up?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 09:40PM
For those interested, here are the standings to end the regular season...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
not write
()
Date: November 09, 2013 09:40PM
LB offense 48.3 points per game...
SOCO offense 42.2 points per game...
soco offense ran more plays, played closer games, kept starters in longer. what if lb kept offense in past halftime? hmmmm...more points?
SOCO offense 42.2 points per game...
soco offense ran more plays, played closer games, kept starters in longer. what if lb kept offense in past halftime? hmmmm...more points?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 09:40PM
Group 6A North Standings
-----------------------------
#1. 36.60 (10-0) Centreville (Clifton)
#2. 36.10 (10-0) Lake Braddock (Burke)
#3. 34.10 (8-2) Westfield (Chantilly)
#4. 32.30 (8-2) Washington-Lee (Arlington)
#5. 32.10 (8-2) Langley (McLean)
#6. 31.70 (8-2) Patriot (Nokesville)
#7. 30.60 (8-2) Yorktown (Arlington)
#8. 30.60 (8-2) South County (Lorton)
#9. 30.40 (7-3) Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria)
#10. 29.20 (7-3) Fairfax (Fairfax)
#11. 29.00 (7-3) James W. Robinson (Fairfax)
#12. 28.20 (6-4) Battlefield (Haymarket)
#13. 28.20 (6-4) Stonewall Jackson (Manassas)
#14. 27.80 (5-5) Hayfield (Alexandria)
#15. 27.40 (5-5) Chantilly (Chantilly)
#16. 26.40 (5-5) South Lakes (Reston)
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 25.90 (5-5) McLean (McLean)
#18. 25.70 (5-5) Oakton (Vienna)
#19. 25.30 (4-6) West Potomac (Alexandria)
#20. 23.70 (3-7) Osbourn Park (Manassas)
#21. 23.60 (3-7) Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax)
#22. 22.80 (3-7) West Springfield (Springfield)
#23. 22.40 (2-8) Osbourn (Manassas)
#24. 20.70 (1-9) Herndon (Herndon)
#25. 20.60 (1-9) James Madison (Vienna)
#26. 20.30 (1-9) Annandale (Annandale)
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#1. 36.60 (10-0) Centreville (Clifton)
#2. 36.10 (10-0) Lake Braddock (Burke)
#3. 34.10 (8-2) Westfield (Chantilly)
#4. 32.30 (8-2) Washington-Lee (Arlington)
#5. 32.10 (8-2) Langley (McLean)
#6. 31.70 (8-2) Patriot (Nokesville)
#7. 30.60 (8-2) Yorktown (Arlington)
#8. 30.60 (8-2) South County (Lorton)
#9. 30.40 (7-3) Thomas C. Williams (Alexandria)
#10. 29.20 (7-3) Fairfax (Fairfax)
#11. 29.00 (7-3) James W. Robinson (Fairfax)
#12. 28.20 (6-4) Battlefield (Haymarket)
#13. 28.20 (6-4) Stonewall Jackson (Manassas)
#14. 27.80 (5-5) Hayfield (Alexandria)
#15. 27.40 (5-5) Chantilly (Chantilly)
#16. 26.40 (5-5) South Lakes (Reston)
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 25.90 (5-5) McLean (McLean)
#18. 25.70 (5-5) Oakton (Vienna)
#19. 25.30 (4-6) West Potomac (Alexandria)
#20. 23.70 (3-7) Osbourn Park (Manassas)
#21. 23.60 (3-7) Wilburt T. Woodson (Fairfax)
#22. 22.80 (3-7) West Springfield (Springfield)
#23. 22.40 (2-8) Osbourn (Manassas)
#24. 20.70 (1-9) Herndon (Herndon)
#25. 20.60 (1-9) James Madison (Vienna)
#26. 20.30 (1-9) Annandale (Annandale)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 09:41PM
Group 5A North Standings
-----------------------------
#1. 34.40 (10-0) Massaponax (Fredericksburg)
#2. 32.20 (8-2) Stone Bridge (Ashburn)
#3. 32.10 (9-1) Briar Woods (Ashburn)
#4. 31.10 (8-2) Tuscarora (Leesburg)
#5. 30.50 (8-2) North Stafford (Stafford)
#6. 29.90 (7-3) Mountain View (Stafford)
#7. 28.30 (7-3) Broad Run (Ashburn)
#8. 27.70 (7-3) Falls Church (Falls Church)
#9. 27.30 (6-4) Albemarle (Charlottesville)
#10. 24.80 (4-6) Freedom (Woodbridge)
#11. 24.60 (4-6) Potomac (Dumfries)
#12. 23.00 (4-6) Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria)
#13. 22.60 (3-7) Mount Vernon (Alexandria)
#14. 22.40 (4-6) Potomac Falls (Sterling)
#15. 21.70 (2-8) Robert E. Lee (Springfield)
#16. 21.60 (3-7) Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria)
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 21.50 (2-8) Brooke Point (Stafford)
#18. 21.40 (3-7) Wakefield (Arlington)
#19. 20.90 (2-8) Orange County (Orange)
#20. 19.90 (2-8) Patrick Henry (Ashland)
#21. 19.70 (2-8) J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church)
#22. 18.10 (1-9) Freedom (South Riding)
#23. 17.50 (1-9) Halifax County (South Boston)
#24. 17.40 (0-10) George C. Marshall (Falls Church)
-----------------------------
#1. 34.40 (10-0) Massaponax (Fredericksburg)
#2. 32.20 (8-2) Stone Bridge (Ashburn)
#3. 32.10 (9-1) Briar Woods (Ashburn)
#4. 31.10 (8-2) Tuscarora (Leesburg)
#5. 30.50 (8-2) North Stafford (Stafford)
#6. 29.90 (7-3) Mountain View (Stafford)
#7. 28.30 (7-3) Broad Run (Ashburn)
#8. 27.70 (7-3) Falls Church (Falls Church)
#9. 27.30 (6-4) Albemarle (Charlottesville)
#10. 24.80 (4-6) Freedom (Woodbridge)
#11. 24.60 (4-6) Potomac (Dumfries)
#12. 23.00 (4-6) Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria)
#13. 22.60 (3-7) Mount Vernon (Alexandria)
#14. 22.40 (4-6) Potomac Falls (Sterling)
#15. 21.70 (2-8) Robert E. Lee (Springfield)
#16. 21.60 (3-7) Thomas A. Edison (Alexandria)
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TOP 16 TEAMS ADVANCE TO REGIONAL PLAYOFFS
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#17. 21.50 (2-8) Brooke Point (Stafford)
#18. 21.40 (3-7) Wakefield (Arlington)
#19. 20.90 (2-8) Orange County (Orange)
#20. 19.90 (2-8) Patrick Henry (Ashland)
#21. 19.70 (2-8) J.E.B. Stuart (Falls Church)
#22. 18.10 (1-9) Freedom (South Riding)
#23. 17.50 (1-9) Halifax County (South Boston)
#24. 17.40 (0-10) George C. Marshall (Falls Church)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LolLol
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:00PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Adam Neff coaches at South County, right? Any
> particular reason for bringing him up?
Lol if he was still at soco they would be undefeated and would win states
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> Adam Neff coaches at South County, right? Any
> particular reason for bringing him up?
Lol if he was still at soco they would be undefeated and would win states
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:18PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> I did see Langley play Chantilly and I like them a
> lot. They have the best offensive line in the
> Northern Region. If they get past Battlefield,
> which I have not seen play and is historically a
> very good postseason team, I do think they can
> beat Westfield. It is just going to be about
> eating the clock and getting 3-4 yards on every
> run. If you watched the Standord-Oregon game this
> week, Langley is capable of doing what Stanford
> did to Oregon against a lot of teams. I like
> Westfield's run defense too, but Langley should be
> able to open up holes right up the gut.
>
> If Langley were to pull up the upset, it would be
> a very intriguing game against Lake Braddock, as I
> don't think Lake Braddock could stop their running
> attack. I would pick Braddock in this one just
> because I don't think Langley's pass defense will
> be able to stop Braddock's passing attack. So
> yes, definitely keep your eye on Langley; but when
> all is said and done in a few weeks I'm taking the
> safe picks and fully expect to see Lake Braddock @
> Centreville in one of the most anticipated region
> finals ever!
Steve, don't mean to disappoint, but the only way Cville and LB will play is if it is in the State Championship game. There is no regional finals anymore. Whichever two teams win during the round of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams from the South in the State Semis the following week. Then those two winners play for State Championship. Cville and LB would both need to beat the two teams from the South and then face each other in the State Championship game.
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> I did see Langley play Chantilly and I like them a
> lot. They have the best offensive line in the
> Northern Region. If they get past Battlefield,
> which I have not seen play and is historically a
> very good postseason team, I do think they can
> beat Westfield. It is just going to be about
> eating the clock and getting 3-4 yards on every
> run. If you watched the Standord-Oregon game this
> week, Langley is capable of doing what Stanford
> did to Oregon against a lot of teams. I like
> Westfield's run defense too, but Langley should be
> able to open up holes right up the gut.
>
> If Langley were to pull up the upset, it would be
> a very intriguing game against Lake Braddock, as I
> don't think Lake Braddock could stop their running
> attack. I would pick Braddock in this one just
> because I don't think Langley's pass defense will
> be able to stop Braddock's passing attack. So
> yes, definitely keep your eye on Langley; but when
> all is said and done in a few weeks I'm taking the
> safe picks and fully expect to see Lake Braddock @
> Centreville in one of the most anticipated region
> finals ever!
Steve, don't mean to disappoint, but the only way Cville and LB will play is if it is in the State Championship game. There is no regional finals anymore. Whichever two teams win during the round of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams from the South in the State Semis the following week. Then those two winners play for State Championship. Cville and LB would both need to beat the two teams from the South and then face each other in the State Championship game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:23PM
chubbybeagle Wrote:
> Whichever two teams win during the round
> of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams from
> the South in the State Semis the following week.
> Then those two winners play for State
> Championship. Cville and LB would both need to
> beat the two teams from the South and then face
> each other in the State Championship game.
This is incorrect.
> Whichever two teams win during the round
> of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams from
> the South in the State Semis the following week.
> Then those two winners play for State
> Championship. Cville and LB would both need to
> beat the two teams from the South and then face
> each other in the State Championship game.
This is incorrect.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:28PM
There is a 6A region final, but it goes by another name, known now as the VHSL state semifinals game and you don't get a region trophy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:28PM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> chubbybeagle Wrote:
> > Whichever two teams win during the round
> > of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams
> from
> > the South in the State Semis the following
> week.
> > Then those two winners play for State
> > Championship. Cville and LB would both need to
> > beat the two teams from the South and then face
> > each other in the State Championship game.
>
> This is incorrect.
No it's not. Go to VHSL.org. (1) Round of 16. (2) Round of 8 (3) Round of 4 (Quarterfinals) (4) State seminfinals when 2 North teams play 2 South teams (5) State championship. Read and understand before calling someone wrong. There is not a "regional championship".
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> chubbybeagle Wrote:
> > Whichever two teams win during the round
> > of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams
> from
> > the South in the State Semis the following
> week.
> > Then those two winners play for State
> > Championship. Cville and LB would both need to
> > beat the two teams from the South and then face
> > each other in the State Championship game.
>
> This is incorrect.
No it's not. Go to VHSL.org. (1) Round of 16. (2) Round of 8 (3) Round of 4 (Quarterfinals) (4) State seminfinals when 2 North teams play 2 South teams (5) State championship. Read and understand before calling someone wrong. There is not a "regional championship".
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:29PM
Here are the dates for the playoff games to be held...
First round (Sixteen Teams) -- Nov. 15, 2013
Second Round (Eight Teams) -- Nov. 22, 2013
Third Round (Quarterfinals) -- Nov. 29, 2013
VHSL State Semifinals (i.e., Region Final) -- Dec. 6, 2013
VHSL State Championships (for D5 & D6) -- Dec. 14, 2013 at UVA in Charlottesville
First round (Sixteen Teams) -- Nov. 15, 2013
Second Round (Eight Teams) -- Nov. 22, 2013
Third Round (Quarterfinals) -- Nov. 29, 2013
VHSL State Semifinals (i.e., Region Final) -- Dec. 6, 2013
VHSL State Championships (for D5 & D6) -- Dec. 14, 2013 at UVA in Charlottesville
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:32PM
chubbybeagle Wrote:
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > chubbybeagle Wrote:
> > > Whichever two teams win during the round
> > > of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams
> > from
> > > the South in the State Semis the following
> > week.
> > > Then those two winners play for State
> > > Championship. Cville and LB would both need
> to
> > > beat the two teams from the South and then
> face
> > > each other in the State Championship game.
> >
> > This is incorrect.
>
> No it's not. Go to VHSL.org. (1) Round of 16.
> (2) Round of 8 (3) Round of 4 (Quarterfinals) (4)
> State seminfinals when 2 North teams play 2 South
> teams (5) State championship. Read and understand
> before calling someone wrong. There is not a
> "regional championship".
From VHSL.org:
Playoff Deadline - 1st round
Nov. 15, 2013
Playoff Deadline - 2nd round
Nov. 23, 2013
Playoff Deadline - 3rd round Nov. 30, 2013
VHSL Semifinals Dec. 7, 2013
VHSL Championships Dec. 14, 2013
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > chubbybeagle Wrote:
> > > Whichever two teams win during the round
> > > of 4 on November 30 will play the two teams
> > from
> > > the South in the State Semis the following
> > week.
> > > Then those two winners play for State
> > > Championship. Cville and LB would both need
> to
> > > beat the two teams from the South and then
> face
> > > each other in the State Championship game.
> >
> > This is incorrect.
>
> No it's not. Go to VHSL.org. (1) Round of 16.
> (2) Round of 8 (3) Round of 4 (Quarterfinals) (4)
> State seminfinals when 2 North teams play 2 South
> teams (5) State championship. Read and understand
> before calling someone wrong. There is not a
> "regional championship".
From VHSL.org:
Playoff Deadline - 1st round
Nov. 15, 2013
Playoff Deadline - 2nd round
Nov. 23, 2013
Playoff Deadline - 3rd round Nov. 30, 2013
VHSL Semifinals Dec. 7, 2013
VHSL Championships Dec. 14, 2013
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:33PM
chubbybeagle Wrote:
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> No it's not. Go to VHSL.org. (1) Round of 16.
> (2) Round of 8 (3) Round of 4 (Quarterfinals) (4)
> State seminfinals when 2 North teams play 2 South
> teams (5) State championship. Read and understand
> before calling someone wrong. There is not a
> "regional championship".
This is for the 1A through 3A groups. Not 4A through 6A North. Read my thread over on "High School Football Playoffs (Standings/Matchups) for each individual group has different rules.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1359045.html
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> No it's not. Go to VHSL.org. (1) Round of 16.
> (2) Round of 8 (3) Round of 4 (Quarterfinals) (4)
> State seminfinals when 2 North teams play 2 South
> teams (5) State championship. Read and understand
> before calling someone wrong. There is not a
> "regional championship".
This is for the 1A through 3A groups. Not 4A through 6A North. Read my thread over on "High School Football Playoffs (Standings/Matchups) for each individual group has different rules.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1359045.html
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:34PM
Class 6A Playoff Explanation
---------------------------------
Regions: 6A North and 6A South
How the playoffs will work in the North: The top 16 teams by power points from the North will be placed in a 16-team traditional bracket (1 v 16, 2 v 15, etc...) that will play down until there is one team standing. There will be no re-seeding along the way.
How the playoffs will work in the South: The top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 1 and 2 will advance to the postseason along with the top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 3 and 4. The eight teams from Conferences 1 and 2 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing. The eight teams from Conferences 3 and 4 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing. The four teams remaining in the South (two from the Conference 1 and 2 bracket and two from the Conference 3 and 4 bracket) will then be re-seeded 1 through 4 based on their regular season power points. #1 will host #4 and #2 will host #3.
Final Four: In the North, the two teams left standing from the traditional 16-team bracket will play each other for a regional title and the right to go to the state championship game. In the South, the two winners from the re-seeded 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 games will meet in a regional final and the right to go to the state championship game.
State championship: The lone survivor from the North will play the lone survivor from the South.
---------------------------------
Regions: 6A North and 6A South
How the playoffs will work in the North: The top 16 teams by power points from the North will be placed in a 16-team traditional bracket (1 v 16, 2 v 15, etc...) that will play down until there is one team standing. There will be no re-seeding along the way.
How the playoffs will work in the South: The top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 1 and 2 will advance to the postseason along with the top 8 teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up of teams combined from Conferences 3 and 4. The eight teams from Conferences 1 and 2 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing. The eight teams from Conferences 3 and 4 will be placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...) and will compete against each other through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will leave two teams standing. The four teams remaining in the South (two from the Conference 1 and 2 bracket and two from the Conference 3 and 4 bracket) will then be re-seeded 1 through 4 based on their regular season power points. #1 will host #4 and #2 will host #3.
Final Four: In the North, the two teams left standing from the traditional 16-team bracket will play each other for a regional title and the right to go to the state championship game. In the South, the two winners from the re-seeded 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 games will meet in a regional final and the right to go to the state championship game.
State championship: The lone survivor from the North will play the lone survivor from the South.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:38PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Class 6A Playoff Explanation
> ---------------------------------
>
> Regions: 6A North and 6A South
>
> How the playoffs will work in the North: The top
> 16 teams by power points from the North will be
> placed in a 16-team traditional bracket (1 v 16, 2
> v 15, etc...) that will play down until there is
> one team standing. There will be no re-seeding
> along the way.
>
> How the playoffs will work in the South: The top 8
> teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up
> of teams combined from Conferences 1 and 2 will
> advance to the postseason along with the top 8
> teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up
> of teams combined from Conferences 3 and 4. The
> eight teams from Conferences 1 and 2 will be
> placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v
> 7, etc...) and will compete against each other
> through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding.
> That will leave two teams standing. The eight
> teams from Conferences 3 and 4 will be placed in a
> traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...)
> and will compete against each other through two
> rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will
> leave two teams standing. The four teams remaining
> in the South (two from the Conference 1 and 2
> bracket and two from the Conference 3 and 4
> bracket) will then be re-seeded 1 through 4 based
> on their regular season power points. #1 will host
> #4 and #2 will host #3.
>
> Final Four: In the North, the two teams left
> standing from the traditional 16-team bracket will
> play each other for a regional title and the right
> to go to the state championship game. In the
> South, the two winners from the re-seeded 1 v 4
> and 2 v 3 games will meet in a regional final and
> the right to go to the state championship game.
>
> State championship: The lone survivor from the
> North will play the lone survivor from the South.
Peyton, I stand corrected. About a month ago, I went to VHSL.org and read the tournament rules. I just went again and it does say they are not going to cross bracket the state semis. I swear that is a change because I read it before and it did not say that. So in essence, they are going to have North champion play South champion in Class 6. I guess for travel purposes??
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> Class 6A Playoff Explanation
> ---------------------------------
>
> Regions: 6A North and 6A South
>
> How the playoffs will work in the North: The top
> 16 teams by power points from the North will be
> placed in a 16-team traditional bracket (1 v 16, 2
> v 15, etc...) that will play down until there is
> one team standing. There will be no re-seeding
> along the way.
>
> How the playoffs will work in the South: The top 8
> teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up
> of teams combined from Conferences 1 and 2 will
> advance to the postseason along with the top 8
> teams by power points from a 'sub-region' made up
> of teams combined from Conferences 3 and 4. The
> eight teams from Conferences 1 and 2 will be
> placed in a traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v
> 7, etc...) and will compete against each other
> through two rounds. There will be no re-seeding.
> That will leave two teams standing. The eight
> teams from Conferences 3 and 4 will be placed in a
> traditional 8-team bracket (1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc...)
> and will compete against each other through two
> rounds. There will be no re-seeding. That will
> leave two teams standing. The four teams remaining
> in the South (two from the Conference 1 and 2
> bracket and two from the Conference 3 and 4
> bracket) will then be re-seeded 1 through 4 based
> on their regular season power points. #1 will host
> #4 and #2 will host #3.
>
> Final Four: In the North, the two teams left
> standing from the traditional 16-team bracket will
> play each other for a regional title and the right
> to go to the state championship game. In the
> South, the two winners from the re-seeded 1 v 4
> and 2 v 3 games will meet in a regional final and
> the right to go to the state championship game.
>
> State championship: The lone survivor from the
> North will play the lone survivor from the South.
Peyton, I stand corrected. About a month ago, I went to VHSL.org and read the tournament rules. I just went again and it does say they are not going to cross bracket the state semis. I swear that is a change because I read it before and it did not say that. So in essence, they are going to have North champion play South champion in Class 6. I guess for travel purposes??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:40PM
Correct, they were changing the rules a few times in mid-season for the different regions. It is quite enough to make one's head hurt.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:43PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Correct, they were changing the rules a few times
> in mid-season for the different regions. It is
> quite enough to make one's head hurt.
Thanks Nat...I thought I was going crazy there for a minute. I've been quite diligent trying to understand the new system...following the weekly standings, etc. Even with that I screwed up!
Will the semifinal game be played at highest seeded team's site?
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> Correct, they were changing the rules a few times
> in mid-season for the different regions. It is
> quite enough to make one's head hurt.
Thanks Nat...I thought I was going crazy there for a minute. I've been quite diligent trying to understand the new system...following the weekly standings, etc. Even with that I screwed up!
Will the semifinal game be played at highest seeded team's site?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 09, 2013 10:49PM
chubbybeagle Wrote:
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> Will the semifinal game be played at highest
> seeded team's site?
Yes, and its by highest seeding at the START of the playoffs (as are all region games) so Centreville would host if they make it that far.
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> Will the semifinal game be played at highest
> seeded team's site?
Yes, and its by highest seeding at the START of the playoffs (as are all region games) so Centreville would host if they make it that far.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 10, 2013 02:38AM
DeMornay Pierson-El deserves special recognition even though West Potomac did not make the playoffs. He carried West Potomac on his back all year but just did not have the supporting cast to make a big impact in the Northern Region. Have a good college career! I will be following you at Nebraska!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
listentoeveryone
()
Date: November 10, 2013 03:20AM
Here is an idea, why even play the playoffs in the 6A north?
Everyone says Centreville is going win because they are so good, so why even bother playing! Lets just crown them now and wait to see who they will play from the south. I am sure all of the the 6A north coaches will not mind, they can pack away all of the equipment and just get ready for next year.
Any thought on that?
Everyone says Centreville is going win because they are so good, so why even bother playing! Lets just crown them now and wait to see who they will play from the south. I am sure all of the the 6A north coaches will not mind, they can pack away all of the equipment and just get ready for next year.
Any thought on that?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
t6nNE
()
Date: November 10, 2013 03:30AM
listentoeveryone Wrote:
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> Here is an idea, why even play the playoffs in the
> 6A north?
>
> Everyone says Centreville is going win because
> they are so good, so why even bother playing! Lets
> just crown them now and wait to see who they will
> play from the south. I am sure all of the the 6A
> north coaches will not mind, they can pack away
> all of the equipment and just get ready for next
> year.
>
> Any thought on that?
yeah your psycho
posting about kiddie sports at 3am
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> Here is an idea, why even play the playoffs in the
> 6A north?
>
> Everyone says Centreville is going win because
> they are so good, so why even bother playing! Lets
> just crown them now and wait to see who they will
> play from the south. I am sure all of the the 6A
> north coaches will not mind, they can pack away
> all of the equipment and just get ready for next
> year.
>
> Any thought on that?
yeah your psycho
posting about kiddie sports at 3am
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
your answer
()
Date: November 10, 2013 07:33AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Adam Neff coaches at South County, right? Any
> particular reason for bringing him up?
Adam Neff is the defensive coordinator at Centreville.
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> Adam Neff coaches at South County, right? Any
> particular reason for bringing him up?
Adam Neff is the defensive coordinator at Centreville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 10, 2013 07:33AM
Coach Neff is at Centreville. Number 1 team in the state and one of the top defenses. No coincidence there
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 10, 2013 09:41AM
listentoeveryone Wrote:
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> Here is an idea, why even play the playoffs in the
> 6A north?
>
> Everyone says Centreville is going win because
> they are so good, so why even bother playing! Lets
> just crown them now and wait to see who they will
> play from the south. I am sure all of the the 6A
> north coaches will not mind, they can pack away
> all of the equipment and just get ready for next
> year.
>
> Any thought on that?
Yeah:
(1) I saw C'Ville go to Hayfield, fall behind 7-0 in Q1 and end up leading 37-7 at half. C'Ville has some good athletes on both sides of the ball and blew out and shutout teams such as Westfield and Chantilly. So it's easy to undestand its top seed in the North. To compare, I saw LB-SoCo and came away thinking SoCo's D is fast but often so out of position that it would struggle vs. C'Ville.
(2)That said, favorites start every game tied 0-0. Just look at what Oakton did last year to 3 favorites in winning the NR. The same goes for D5 Lake Taylor in the ER--beating Phoebus by +50 points and going up by 3 TDs over SB at UVA before holding onto to win, 20-14.
(3)C'Ville has to win 4 straight games just to rep the North at UVA. That's a long way from the crown and teams aren't likely to punk out at game time. You have too much good FB up here for that to happen.
(4) Coming from the ER, I can tell you that the beach teams are well aware of the power that comes out of the North. Those Westfield title teams, for example, were awesome. Yet O. Smith, Ocean Lakes and a few ex-CR teams have some swag this year, too. That's why I'm going to UVA like every other year to enjoy the competition.
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> Here is an idea, why even play the playoffs in the
> 6A north?
>
> Everyone says Centreville is going win because
> they are so good, so why even bother playing! Lets
> just crown them now and wait to see who they will
> play from the south. I am sure all of the the 6A
> north coaches will not mind, they can pack away
> all of the equipment and just get ready for next
> year.
>
> Any thought on that?
Yeah:
(1) I saw C'Ville go to Hayfield, fall behind 7-0 in Q1 and end up leading 37-7 at half. C'Ville has some good athletes on both sides of the ball and blew out and shutout teams such as Westfield and Chantilly. So it's easy to undestand its top seed in the North. To compare, I saw LB-SoCo and came away thinking SoCo's D is fast but often so out of position that it would struggle vs. C'Ville.
(2)That said, favorites start every game tied 0-0. Just look at what Oakton did last year to 3 favorites in winning the NR. The same goes for D5 Lake Taylor in the ER--beating Phoebus by +50 points and going up by 3 TDs over SB at UVA before holding onto to win, 20-14.
(3)C'Ville has to win 4 straight games just to rep the North at UVA. That's a long way from the crown and teams aren't likely to punk out at game time. You have too much good FB up here for that to happen.
(4) Coming from the ER, I can tell you that the beach teams are well aware of the power that comes out of the North. Those Westfield title teams, for example, were awesome. Yet O. Smith, Ocean Lakes and a few ex-CR teams have some swag this year, too. That's why I'm going to UVA like every other year to enjoy the competition.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DaMan
()
Date: November 10, 2013 10:45AM
"I think it's safe to say that the class of 2013 was the last good chantilly team well see in a while. They only get worse next year with losing their starting receivers, their whole starting offensive line, and majority of their defense. LB should end their season next week."
post is almost entirely incorrect. they grad only 2 Oline. and as for the D - addition by subtraction. worst D CHS has had in dozen years, so no, not the last good Chantilly team. returning starting QB (who has thrown for more yards than Henderson)and most of Oline.
post is almost entirely incorrect. they grad only 2 Oline. and as for the D - addition by subtraction. worst D CHS has had in dozen years, so no, not the last good Chantilly team. returning starting QB (who has thrown for more yards than Henderson)and most of Oline.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jp
()
Date: November 10, 2013 05:49PM
Yesth!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bainee
()
Date: November 10, 2013 06:12PM
Does anybody have the all conference list for any of the districts specifically Liberty and Concorde.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
AllDistrict
()
Date: November 10, 2013 08:33PM
Does anybody know where to find the complete lists? Also are they going by "All-District", including all the teams of former districts or are they selecting "All-Conference" from the new ones. I know some teams didnt play their new conference schedules yet to preserve some rivalries so are they doing they same?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 11, 2013 09:48AM
Okay, I've posted my annual printable playoff brackets for D5 and D6 over on my standings thread at High School Football Playoffs (Standings/Matchups). Just copy the picture and print it at a full-page size.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1359045.html
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1359045.html
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concorde person
()
Date: November 11, 2013 03:27PM
The Concorde all-district teams were voted on yesterday. Several of the HS programs tweeted out congratulations to their players yesterday. Shockingly, not every player selected was from Centreville or Westfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cville fan
()
Date: November 11, 2013 04:02PM
Well who were the first team players choosen!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
herndon
()
Date: November 11, 2013 04:02PM
Congrats to Lamik Bumbrey @ToTheTop_28 for making 1st Team All-Concorde District RB and for leading the Concorde District in Rushing!
Retweeted by Gameday Nation
Retweeted by Gameday Nation
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oakton football tweet
()
Date: November 11, 2013 04:08PM
Congrats to our 1st team All-District players : Miles Lindsey, Bobby Lam and Joe Cellini.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 11, 2013 04:40PM
herndon Wrote:
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> Congrats to Lamik Bumbrey @ToTheTop_28 for making
> 1st Team All-Concorde District RB and for leading
> the Concorde District in Rushing!
>
> Retweeted by Gameday Nation
Glad to see that - he was impressive against Westfield. After Westfield scored 4 TD's in the 1st quarter (up 27-0) they pulled their defensive starters for the first Herndon series in the 2nd quarter. Westfield's 2nd/3rd string could not contain Bumbrey and Westfield had to put their starters back in at the beginning of the 3rd quarter to make sure the game stayed in hand. He like 230+ yards...
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> Congrats to Lamik Bumbrey @ToTheTop_28 for making
> 1st Team All-Concorde District RB and for leading
> the Concorde District in Rushing!
>
> Retweeted by Gameday Nation
Glad to see that - he was impressive against Westfield. After Westfield scored 4 TD's in the 1st quarter (up 27-0) they pulled their defensive starters for the first Herndon series in the 2nd quarter. Westfield's 2nd/3rd string could not contain Bumbrey and Westfield had to put their starters back in at the beginning of the 3rd quarter to make sure the game stayed in hand. He like 230+ yards...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
F*ck W&L
()
Date: November 11, 2013 09:57PM
W&L is some Sh*t and falls church is ass, by far the two worst teams. All they do is throw quick passes, if you can pt pressure on their quarterbacks, you're guaranteed 2-4 picks from each
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Haterz
()
Date: November 11, 2013 10:27PM
W&L does suck. They lost to South Lakes earlier this year!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Captaine Pilip
()
Date: November 11, 2013 11:10PM
Wnl ran the ball against Yorktown the entire game. It worked alright.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 12, 2013 12:07PM
Here are the first-round games of the 6A North playoffs that will take place, along with the now announced dates and times.
#16 South Lakes (5-5) at #1 Centreville (10-0) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Clifton.
#15 Chantilly (5-5) at #2 Lake Braddock (10-0) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Burke.
#14 Hayfield (5-5) at #3 Westfield (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Chantilly.
#13 Stonewall Jackson (6-4) at #4 Washington-Lee (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Arlington.
#12 Battlefield (6-4) at #5 Langley (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in McLean.
#11 James W. Robinson (7-3) at #6 Patriot (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Nokesville.
#10 Fairfax (7-3) at #7 Yorktown (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Arlington.
#9 Thomas C. Williams (6-3) at #8 South County (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Lorton.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2013 09:52PM by nat4lee.
#16 South Lakes (5-5) at #1 Centreville (10-0) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Clifton.
#15 Chantilly (5-5) at #2 Lake Braddock (10-0) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Burke.
#14 Hayfield (5-5) at #3 Westfield (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Chantilly.
#13 Stonewall Jackson (6-4) at #4 Washington-Lee (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Arlington.
#12 Battlefield (6-4) at #5 Langley (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in McLean.
#11 James W. Robinson (7-3) at #6 Patriot (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Nokesville.
#10 Fairfax (7-3) at #7 Yorktown (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Arlington.
#9 Thomas C. Williams (6-3) at #8 South County (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Lorton.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2013 09:52PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 12, 2013 12:07PM
Here are the first-round games of the 5A North playoffs that will take place, along with the now announced dates and times.
#16 Thomas A. Edison (3-7) at #1 Massaponax (10-0) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Fredericksburg.
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-8) at #2 Stone Bridge (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Ashburn.
#14 Potomac Falls (4-6) at #3 Briar Woods (9-1) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Ashburn.
#13 Mount Vernon (3-7) at #4 Tuscarora (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Leesburg.
#12 Thomas Jefferson (4-6) at #5 North Stafford (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Stafford.
#11 Potomac (4-6) at #6 Mountain View (7-3) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Stafford.
#10 Freedom (4-6) at #7 Broad Run (7-3) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Ashburn.
#9 Albemarle (6-4) at #8 Falls Church (7-3) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Falls Church.
#16 Thomas A. Edison (3-7) at #1 Massaponax (10-0) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Fredericksburg.
#15 Robert E. Lee (2-8) at #2 Stone Bridge (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Ashburn.
#14 Potomac Falls (4-6) at #3 Briar Woods (9-1) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Ashburn.
#13 Mount Vernon (3-7) at #4 Tuscarora (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Leesburg.
#12 Thomas Jefferson (4-6) at #5 North Stafford (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Stafford.
#11 Potomac (4-6) at #6 Mountain View (7-3) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Stafford.
#10 Freedom (4-6) at #7 Broad Run (7-3) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:00 p.m. in Ashburn.
#9 Albemarle (6-4) at #8 Falls Church (7-3) to be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Falls Church.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WestfieldFan
()
Date: November 12, 2013 12:34PM
herndon Wrote:
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> Congrats to Lamik Bumbrey @ToTheTop_28 for making
> 1st Team All-Concorde District RB and for leading
> the Concorde District in Rushing!
>
> Retweeted by Gameday Nation
Glad to see that - he was impressive against Westfield. After Westfield scored 4 TD's in the 1st quarter (up 27-0) they pulled their defensive starters for the first Herndon series in the 2nd quarter. Westfield's 2nd/3rd string could not contain Bumbrey and Westfield had to put their starters back in at the beginning of the 3rd quarter to make sure the game stayed in hand. He like 230+ yards...
Actually Westfield began the game with a 2-3 defensive starters on the sideline. Couple players were just back from injury so coaches eased them into the game since it was Herndon. The first 3 quarters were a mix match of 1st and 2nd string players. If you saw the Oakton game the following week all the starters were back in the lineup. None the less Bumbrey had an awesome game against Westfield, great combo of power and speed, he was certainly impressive.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Congrats to Lamik Bumbrey @ToTheTop_28 for making
> 1st Team All-Concorde District RB and for leading
> the Concorde District in Rushing!
>
> Retweeted by Gameday Nation
Glad to see that - he was impressive against Westfield. After Westfield scored 4 TD's in the 1st quarter (up 27-0) they pulled their defensive starters for the first Herndon series in the 2nd quarter. Westfield's 2nd/3rd string could not contain Bumbrey and Westfield had to put their starters back in at the beginning of the 3rd quarter to make sure the game stayed in hand. He like 230+ yards...
Actually Westfield began the game with a 2-3 defensive starters on the sideline. Couple players were just back from injury so coaches eased them into the game since it was Herndon. The first 3 quarters were a mix match of 1st and 2nd string players. If you saw the Oakton game the following week all the starters were back in the lineup. None the less Bumbrey had an awesome game against Westfield, great combo of power and speed, he was certainly impressive.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cydv7
()
Date: November 12, 2013 01:51PM
THE JAGUARS!!!!!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wffan
()
Date: November 12, 2013 02:03PM
Bumbrey is a good player. well deserved.
Heard through grapevine that Oakton placed 2 kids on the second team: Connor Fagan and Jarrett Bacon. If not mistaken, that makes only 2 offensive players on the entire Oakton team got 1st or second team. Can't remember that ever happening. Paging Kyle Downer. . . . .
Heard through grapevine that Oakton placed 2 kids on the second team: Connor Fagan and Jarrett Bacon. If not mistaken, that makes only 2 offensive players on the entire Oakton team got 1st or second team. Can't remember that ever happening. Paging Kyle Downer. . . . .
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fuck W&L
()
Date: November 12, 2013 07:07PM
where do you find out who made 1st team and stuff like that?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tony Dungy
()
Date: November 12, 2013 09:16PM
Anybody get Axed yet?
I'm sure there are several schools out there that will be looking for new coaches after this year!
I'm sure there are several schools out there that will be looking for new coaches after this year!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
jaguar
()
Date: November 13, 2013 12:04AM
I heard Adam Daly only got honorable mention, is this true? How is that possible he put up tremendous numbers and lead Falls Church to one of its best seasons ever. Who in his conference (comprised of JEfferson, Wakefield, Marshall, Edison, Lee, Stuart, and Mt. Vernon) is better than him? He had 37 completions in one game, that is amazing
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 13, 2013 09:42AM
Well, WP stats are incomplete on some QB's but there were a couple of other QB's that put of decent numbers:
Player (School) Comp-Att % Yds TD Int. Rate
Harrison Dandridge (Edison) 142-271 52 2201 20 9 77.90
Adam Murray (Lee) 125-201 62 1677 12 11 76.34
Adam Daly (Falls Church) 159-276 58 1965 19 11 73.59
Sam Appel (W-L) 154-296 52 1793 15 8 65.96
Player (School) Comp-Att % Yds TD Int. Rate
Harrison Dandridge (Edison) 142-271 52 2201 20 9 77.90
Adam Murray (Lee) 125-201 62 1677 12 11 76.34
Adam Daly (Falls Church) 159-276 58 1965 19 11 73.59
Sam Appel (W-L) 154-296 52 1793 15 8 65.96
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
girlsdontknownothingboutfootball
()
Date: November 13, 2013 10:03AM
As well as Demorney played - and he did play well especially considering he played about of position all season - give credit to others on the team. The O-line gave Demorney time enough to wash his car and finish his homework from last year. And let's not forget that Pickett kid who played both ways and in only 5 games at running back, made the All Met/Patriot top 20. The team would have faired better with better coaching and playing these young men to their strengths. And as far as the TC game goes - since when is this a huge rivalry? Oh yeah. Since Maxpreps needs Maxpress. The eff'ing ref'ing in that game looked a lot like cheating to me. But what do I know? Girls don't know nothing about football
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
datflipdoe
()
Date: November 13, 2013 10:25AM
I have to agree with girlsdontknow. Demornay is a great athlete, and will undoubtedly get recognition - but he is not a quarterback. Sure he did a pretty good job, but was unable to overcome his lack of height and his desire to make the big plays over making the right play. When he did run the ball, it was obvious the other teams were prepared for him. West Potomac has a potential QB in Preston Jones - and I think we would have seen that had he not been sidelined most of the season with an injury. In fact, West Potomac lost a lot of talent early due to injury: Giamphi, Carter, Toft, Nail, to name a few. As for the reaming members of WP, Harkless, Saldana, Alexander and Williams are standout players, that helped Pierson-El look better at QB than he is. And oh, yeah, that Pickett kid, was something else - made his own holes, blocked for himself, and was pretty damn hard to take down without 4 or 5 opposing players on his back - stout and surprisingly fast - and should have been playing running back before mid-season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Devin
()
Date: November 13, 2013 10:52AM
Does anyone have a link to the all district teams?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
jones
()
Date: November 13, 2013 11:01AM
have not seen any links to all district teams. I'd check the twitter accounts of the players, and see if they said anything.
As for DeMornay, he was the best athlete I saw all year, and I go to a Concorde school. I saw no one with his speed and moves. If he were on Centreville, he'd be a Parade All-American with that supporting cast. No surprise he was so heavily recruited by FBS schools.
As for DeMornay, he was the best athlete I saw all year, and I go to a Concorde school. I saw no one with his speed and moves. If he were on Centreville, he'd be a Parade All-American with that supporting cast. No surprise he was so heavily recruited by FBS schools.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
datflipdoe
()
Date: November 13, 2013 11:06AM
No one is saying Pierson isnt an outstanding athlete...or that he isnt one of the best. I think that an earlier statement by inquisitive said he was the entirety of the WP team. That there were no other players of merit. And that is just BS.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LBSwag
()
Date: November 13, 2013 11:14AM
Caleb Henderson got All Conference Player of the Year and 1st team QB - D$$ got 2nd team QB, 1st team KR/PR - which was a stretch cause he didnt return anything this year.
I hear West Poor has 4 All American Rugby players on their team. Is that true?
I hear West Poor has 4 All American Rugby players on their team. Is that true?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jones
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Date: November 13, 2013 11:54AM
Okay, I have no insight into the West Po team. I was simply commenting on D$$. If he keeps his sh*t together at Nebraska and develops, would not be surprised to see him playing on Sundays one day.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
girlsdon'tknownothingboutfootbal
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Date: November 13, 2013 12:04PM
West PO has 4 players going to the All American Rugby camp and 1 is a returning All American - that Pickett kid.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LBSwag
()
Date: November 13, 2013 12:15PM
Seriously? That rugby shit is no joke.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
datPICKdoe
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Date: November 13, 2013 12:59PM
Sounds like you didn't watch the last 5 games or so ~ the LAST game with TC was a game WP was not designed to win in ANY way, cheap shots, bad calls (REALLY bad calls) and non calls. Coaching finally got smart near the end of season and sent Pickett into the fight and they came out winning, he has super acceleration and legs that won't quit!! He will go far, interceptions, recoveries, tackles, and returning the ball ~ he has talent AND heart. He plays EVERYWHERE. Let's not forget, football TEAM sport, Josh Ransom had key tackles, smelling the runner out ~ ALSO going places. Kris Sheckles also a very key player. These young men also happen to be rugby stars, making all-star teams as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
girlsdontknownothingboutfootball
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Date: November 13, 2013 01:16PM
Right on datPICKdoe. Ransom and Sheckles had outstanding seasons. The whole team did well - considering. Bright futures all the way around!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
datflipdoe
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Date: November 13, 2013 01:49PM
It is insulting to say that Demornay - or D$$? - is the backbone of the West Po team - the only standout. He may have talent...but he cant win games on his own - that was proven this season. And to imply as much would warrant that he alone is the reason WP is not in the playoffs. Does he have the character to shoulder both possibilities? And does anyone that discounts any one of the Wolverine Varsity have the character to accept that as well?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
beauty
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Date: November 13, 2013 06:40PM
Well as a fan that has been at every game this year. With many of the teams key players hurt early in the season the team started to come together. But with dmoney not sharing the ball things got hard. adding to that that pickett kid averaged 6.7 yards per carry. and both backs cannot gain any yards with there help from the offensive line. they had many players make all conference team. and did not utilize the players they had.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
colorful
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Date: November 13, 2013 06:50PM
The wolverines had many talented players in the wrong position. On top of that the coaching staff lacked in there play calling ability offensively and defensively. Why would you call a run play on 3rd and 5 on tc's 10 yard line? Also with that Jones kid i think placing a player who plays the position of a QB would have been smarter making d money play his actual position which is a wide receiver, last time I checked thats what hes goin to nebraska as.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 13, 2013 09:36PM
Repeat after me.....
(1) None of this stuff about West Potomac matters.....
(2) The only two teams that matter in the Northern Region are Centreville and Lake Braddock....
(3) I will not waste my time thinking about other teams....
(1) None of this stuff about West Potomac matters.....
(2) The only two teams that matter in the Northern Region are Centreville and Lake Braddock....
(3) I will not waste my time thinking about other teams....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 13, 2013 09:37PM
And by the way the only one team that really matters is Centreville which will be representing NOVA in the State finals this year and probably next as well....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yorktown
()
Date: November 13, 2013 09:44PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Here are the first-round games of the 6A North
> playoffs that will take place, along with the now
> announced dates and times.
>
> #16 South Lakes (5-5) at #1 Centreville (10-0) to
> be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Clifton.
> #15 Chantilly (5-5) at #2 Lake Braddock (10-0) to
> be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Burke.
> #14 Hayfield (5-5) at #3 Westfield (8-2) to be
> played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Chantilly.
> #13 Stonewall Jackson (6-4) at #4 Washington-Lee
> (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at
> 7:30 p.m. in Arlington.
> #12 Battlefield (6-4) at #5 Langley (8-2) to be
> played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> McLean.
> #11 James W. Robinson (7-3) at #6 Patriot (8-2) to
> be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Nokesville.
> #10 Fairfax (7-3) at #7 Yorktown (8-2) to be
> played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Fairfax.
> #9 Thomas C. Williams (6-3) at #8 South County
> (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at
> 7:30 p.m. in Lorton.
I will be attending one of the games this Friday to enjoy some high school palyoff football. Wondering if there is any game particularly worth going to and also you wrote the the Fairfax/Yorktown is "at Yorktown" but played in "Fairfax"? I thought yorkotwon was an Arlington school.
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> Here are the first-round games of the 6A North
> playoffs that will take place, along with the now
> announced dates and times.
>
> #16 South Lakes (5-5) at #1 Centreville (10-0) to
> be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Clifton.
> #15 Chantilly (5-5) at #2 Lake Braddock (10-0) to
> be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Burke.
> #14 Hayfield (5-5) at #3 Westfield (8-2) to be
> played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Chantilly.
> #13 Stonewall Jackson (6-4) at #4 Washington-Lee
> (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at
> 7:30 p.m. in Arlington.
> #12 Battlefield (6-4) at #5 Langley (8-2) to be
> played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> McLean.
> #11 James W. Robinson (7-3) at #6 Patriot (8-2) to
> be played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Nokesville.
> #10 Fairfax (7-3) at #7 Yorktown (8-2) to be
> played on Friday night the 15th at 7:30 p.m. in
> Fairfax.
> #9 Thomas C. Williams (6-3) at #8 South County
> (8-2) to be played on Friday night the 15th at
> 7:30 p.m. in Lorton.
I will be attending one of the games this Friday to enjoy some high school palyoff football. Wondering if there is any game particularly worth going to and also you wrote the the Fairfax/Yorktown is "at Yorktown" but played in "Fairfax"? I thought yorkotwon was an Arlington school.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hardplay
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Date: November 13, 2013 09:45PM
oh yeah Centreville all the way boyyyyyy....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
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Date: November 13, 2013 09:46PM
You are quite correct. A typo on my part.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 13, 2013 09:46PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> And by the way the only one team that really
> matters is Centreville which will be representing
> NOVA in the State finals this year and probably
> next as well....
Huge CVille fan here but all it takes is one game where they underestimate the opponent or beat themselves..... Don't forgot, the juniors are experienced but still young. Love hearing all of the hype but still have to play the games.
Oakton 2012 is a perfect example.
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> And by the way the only one team that really
> matters is Centreville which will be representing
> NOVA in the State finals this year and probably
> next as well....
Huge CVille fan here but all it takes is one game where they underestimate the opponent or beat themselves..... Don't forgot, the juniors are experienced but still young. Love hearing all of the hype but still have to play the games.
Oakton 2012 is a perfect example.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
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Date: November 13, 2013 09:51PM
Yorktown HS is nowhere near Fairfax. Nor is it the beach team from Yorktown as I have gotten so many times from ignorant locals. It is indeed in the Williamsburg neighborhood of Arlington, and that is where the game will be held.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 13, 2013 09:52PM
Reasonable point Football Fever but last year they were all sophomores, this year the juniors have shown great talent and great discipline. Next there is strong senior leadership at QB and middle linebacker. Next they have homefield advantage throughout. Next from all accounts the coach has their collective heads on straight and they are not taking anything for granted. Henderson at Braddock is good but Centreville is just way deeper overall and has a better defense. Additionally Cville is much more balanced this year running and passing the ball and has tremendous team speed. Of course funnier things have happened but I will turn in my high school football fan jabbering if they do not at least make it to the state finals. There it will be anyone's game as the teams down south - Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes - are nasty too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 13, 2013 09:59PM
Plus look at joint opponents....Lake Braddock barely beat Westfield something like 28-24 whereas Centreville thoroughly dominated Westfield 28-0. Plus Braddock beat South County by three touchdowns so if Centreville gets South County in the second round logic would dictate a relatively easy win....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 13, 2013 10:13PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Plus look at joint opponents....Lake Braddock
> barely beat Westfield something like 28-24 whereas
> Centreville thoroughly dominated Westfield 28-0.
> Plus Braddock beat South County by three
> touchdowns so if Centreville gets South County in
> the second round logic would dictate a relatively
> easy win....
I agree with you on all points. Everything on paper and results looks like a CVille win. But LB has a chip on their shoulder as #2 in the area and 3 straight losses to CVille including a close 2011 playoff loss and a last minute defeat last year. We have the taste of Oakton's defeat in ours. Are they the better team -yes-, if we had our worst game of the year playing them, could we lose, absolutely. Henderson has a lot to play for as a senior and i am sure thier coach understands if they don't win this year, they will definitely not beat us next year
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> Plus look at joint opponents....Lake Braddock
> barely beat Westfield something like 28-24 whereas
> Centreville thoroughly dominated Westfield 28-0.
> Plus Braddock beat South County by three
> touchdowns so if Centreville gets South County in
> the second round logic would dictate a relatively
> easy win....
I agree with you on all points. Everything on paper and results looks like a CVille win. But LB has a chip on their shoulder as #2 in the area and 3 straight losses to CVille including a close 2011 playoff loss and a last minute defeat last year. We have the taste of Oakton's defeat in ours. Are they the better team -yes-, if we had our worst game of the year playing them, could we lose, absolutely. Henderson has a lot to play for as a senior and i am sure thier coach understands if they don't win this year, they will definitely not beat us next year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 13, 2013 10:42PM
Well let us pray for no injuries or other craziness and let the cards fall where they might. Without the injuries or craziness I like Centreville's chances. Cannot wait to watch Cville linebacker Chad Wiggins spying on Henderson and sacking him a few times!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FanMan
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Date: November 14, 2013 08:34AM
so, who will be the new coach at Annandale after they fire Scott for his meltdown?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
stevek3
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Date: November 14, 2013 09:02AM
They should go after either the Falls Church coach or the Wakefield coach. Both are small school that had some success with some young coaches. I think FC might have beaten AHS.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
i hate Chantilly
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Date: November 14, 2013 11:28AM
I have no love for Chantilly, but let's not assume that LB will simply roll all over them. It's a very intriguing Seed 2 - Seed 15 matchup. Stranger things have happened, although I agree LB is a heavy favorite.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757 swag
()
Date: November 14, 2013 11:42AM
I am not sure why people are sleeping on Braddock, offense is pretty much like the Beach teams, very athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers who can go get the ball. Looks like they added a running game this year.Defense looks pretty solid, 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the south.
Centreville is like most of the teams that come out of North, great running game, some very good athletes. But, when you shut down the run, which the South teams will do, the QBs can never throw consistant enough to win.
Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and the QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I just dont see the QB being athletic enough to withstand the pressure he will get with the South teams. In 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was supposed to be all that, look what happened to him against OS.
Defense looks good, and they say they have all these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
Either team is fine, but will not beat the south
Centreville is like most of the teams that come out of North, great running game, some very good athletes. But, when you shut down the run, which the South teams will do, the QBs can never throw consistant enough to win.
Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and the QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I just dont see the QB being athletic enough to withstand the pressure he will get with the South teams. In 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was supposed to be all that, look what happened to him against OS.
Defense looks good, and they say they have all these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
Either team is fine, but will not beat the south
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Col. Legget
()
Date: November 14, 2013 11:46AM
The Wakefield coach will not leave to coach at Annandale. He moved from an assistant coaching position at Yorktown to the head coaching position at Wakefield to build up a strong program there.
Sad about Annandale. 20 years ago they were winning back to back state football championships. The most recent meltdown with the band is rock bottom for that once proud program. What happened...
Sad about Annandale. 20 years ago they were winning back to back state football championships. The most recent meltdown with the band is rock bottom for that once proud program. What happened...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
annandale?
()
Date: November 14, 2013 11:51AM
What happened at Annandale? What melt-down? Is this a publicized story?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: November 14, 2013 02:25PM
Please leave all things Annandale football vs. Band in the thread about it that has popped up on this website. Leave this thread to football!
Anywho's...
Looking at the top three seeds, who has the best chance between the three of them to play in the regional championship? I see a lot of people say C-ville and Braddock but what about Westfield? Granted after watching them play I wasn't very impressed however they did host the previous two regional titles and it could happen again.
Anywho's...
Looking at the top three seeds, who has the best chance between the three of them to play in the regional championship? I see a lot of people say C-ville and Braddock but what about Westfield? Granted after watching them play I wasn't very impressed however they did host the previous two regional titles and it could happen again.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 14, 2013 02:42PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Plus look at joint opponents....Lake Braddock
> barely beat Westfield something like 28-24 whereas
> Centreville thoroughly dominated Westfield 28-0.
Westfield had everyone pretty much healthy for LB game. Not so much at Centreville.
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> Plus look at joint opponents....Lake Braddock
> barely beat Westfield something like 28-24 whereas
> Centreville thoroughly dominated Westfield 28-0.
Westfield had everyone pretty much healthy for LB game. Not so much at Centreville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 14, 2013 04:14PM
Leave it to the Westfield fans to look for excuses. Centreville has been down a few key players all year long and wiped the field with everyone including Westfield. Think Westfield is longing for the glory days, they simply are not as good this year and the talent is not as strong coming up either. Would not be surprised if Westfield loses by the second round and does not even get to face Braddock again. Sorry you're run is over, should have done something with those undefeated seasons while you had the chance....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hardplay
()
Date: November 14, 2013 04:51PM
Agree Westfield is da bunch of whiners. Win the important ballgames then pop off.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 14, 2013 05:41PM
757 swag Wrote:
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> I am not sure why people are sleeping on Braddock,
> offense is pretty much like the Beach teams, very
> athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers
> who can go get the ball. Looks like they added a
> running game this year.Defense looks pretty solid,
> 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the
> south.
>
> Centreville is like most of the teams that come
> out of North, great running game, some very good
> athletes. But, when you shut down the run, which
> the South teams will do, the QBs can never throw
> consistant enough to win.
> Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and the
> QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I just
> dont see the QB being athletic enough to withstand
> the pressure he will get with the South teams. In
> 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was
> supposed to be all that, look what happened to him
> against OS.
> Defense looks good, and they say they have all
> these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
>
> Either team is fine, but will not beat the south
I saw LB-SoCo. LB looked tough--good passing game, QB ran whenever he wanted, and its D has athletes. Haven't seen C'Ville this year but saw that 2011 game at UVA. O. Smith's D dominated C'ville's OL. C'Ville lost its star early but its LBs and DBs were beaten all day. See You Tube. This year is different. C'Ville has been crushing everybody and LB had 5 straight shutouts. Whoever comes out of the North will be tough. I saw O. Smith wax defending D5 champ Lake Taylor 42-2 in the opener. Yet I remember how good those 2 Westfield teams that titled were and have much respect for the North now that I live here and see the play.
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> I am not sure why people are sleeping on Braddock,
> offense is pretty much like the Beach teams, very
> athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers
> who can go get the ball. Looks like they added a
> running game this year.Defense looks pretty solid,
> 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the
> south.
>
> Centreville is like most of the teams that come
> out of North, great running game, some very good
> athletes. But, when you shut down the run, which
> the South teams will do, the QBs can never throw
> consistant enough to win.
> Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and the
> QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I just
> dont see the QB being athletic enough to withstand
> the pressure he will get with the South teams. In
> 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was
> supposed to be all that, look what happened to him
> against OS.
> Defense looks good, and they say they have all
> these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
>
> Either team is fine, but will not beat the south
I saw LB-SoCo. LB looked tough--good passing game, QB ran whenever he wanted, and its D has athletes. Haven't seen C'Ville this year but saw that 2011 game at UVA. O. Smith's D dominated C'ville's OL. C'Ville lost its star early but its LBs and DBs were beaten all day. See You Tube. This year is different. C'Ville has been crushing everybody and LB had 5 straight shutouts. Whoever comes out of the North will be tough. I saw O. Smith wax defending D5 champ Lake Taylor 42-2 in the opener. Yet I remember how good those 2 Westfield teams that titled were and have much respect for the North now that I live here and see the play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 14, 2013 05:53PM
Tons of respect for 2011 Centreville team but this one is better - deeper and faster across the board. QB is bigger, good runner and passer, they go 5-6 deep RBs who can all put 100 yards on the opponent, surprisingly good passing game with about 12-15 passes a game that are very effective to keep teams on their toes with at the same time an almost unstoppable running game, good beef on both lines so no one will get pushed around, have stopped other teams like 60 times in backfield and that is in addition to sacks, LB's run in the 4.6 and 4.7 range, DBs and safeties in the 4.4 and 4.5 range. This is not the 2011 situation. Of course any of the top four teams (CVille, Braddock, Oscar Smith, Ocean Lakes) can win but I feel really good about Cville's chances. Cannot wait to get started with playoffs this Friday!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
4.4?
()
Date: November 14, 2013 06:43PM
The DBs and safeties run a 4.4? Did you personally time them? How do you know? If Tutt and Turner ran 4.4s, they would be 5 star athletes getting D'Shawn attention. They are not. They are good and fast, but let's not get crazy. They don't have Demornay's hops, and it's reported that he runs a 4.4.
The only thing that can stop Centreville are themselves. If their athletes start jawing and mouthing off to the Eastern teams that they'll face in the final, they may risk penalties and flags. I saw similar stuff during their Concorde run this year, and they should just do their talking on the field and STFU. Until they hoist the state trophy in the air, they have won nothing yet worthy of their talent. I suspect the coaching staff is keeping them grounded.
The only thing that can stop Centreville are themselves. If their athletes start jawing and mouthing off to the Eastern teams that they'll face in the final, they may risk penalties and flags. I saw similar stuff during their Concorde run this year, and they should just do their talking on the field and STFU. Until they hoist the state trophy in the air, they have won nothing yet worthy of their talent. I suspect the coaching staff is keeping them grounded.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: November 14, 2013 07:24PM
AJ and Tutt do run 4.4s the only reason they aren't getting looks like D'Sawn is cause theyre juniors
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nova football
()
Date: November 14, 2013 08:05PM
757 swag Wrote:
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> I am not sure why people are sleeping on Braddock,
> offense is pretty much like the Beach teams, very
> athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers
> who can go get the ball. Looks like they added a
> running game this year.Defense looks pretty solid,
> 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the
> south.
>
> Centreville is like most of the teams that come
> out of North, great running game, some very good
> athletes. But, when you shut down the run, which
> the South teams will do, the QBs can never throw
> consistant enough to win.
> Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and the
> QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I just
> dont see the QB being athletic enough to withstand
> the pressure he will get with the South teams. In
> 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was
> supposed to be all that, look what happened to him
> against OS.
> Defense looks good, and they say they have all
> these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
>
> Either team is fine, but will not beat the south
Centreville QB has shown all year he is capable of winning games with the pass if needed. Playing in only the first half of 90% of the games this year, he has thrown over 20 TD passes and run for 5 more and has thrown for over 1100 yards completing close to 80% of his passes (according to the Post). That is one of the big differences between the 2011 team and this team, the QB can throw with anyone in the state, he just plays in a Wing T offense. Centreville will be fine against any team it faces.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am not sure why people are sleeping on Braddock,
> offense is pretty much like the Beach teams, very
> athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers
> who can go get the ball. Looks like they added a
> running game this year.Defense looks pretty solid,
> 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the
> south.
>
> Centreville is like most of the teams that come
> out of North, great running game, some very good
> athletes. But, when you shut down the run, which
> the South teams will do, the QBs can never throw
> consistant enough to win.
> Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and the
> QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I just
> dont see the QB being athletic enough to withstand
> the pressure he will get with the South teams. In
> 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was
> supposed to be all that, look what happened to him
> against OS.
> Defense looks good, and they say they have all
> these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
>
> Either team is fine, but will not beat the south
Centreville QB has shown all year he is capable of winning games with the pass if needed. Playing in only the first half of 90% of the games this year, he has thrown over 20 TD passes and run for 5 more and has thrown for over 1100 yards completing close to 80% of his passes (according to the Post). That is one of the big differences between the 2011 team and this team, the QB can throw with anyone in the state, he just plays in a Wing T offense. Centreville will be fine against any team it faces.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hmmmmmm
()
Date: November 14, 2013 09:06PM
Turner and Nickens-Yzer most definitely run 4.4. Tutt has great hands and quickness, but is not as fast as the other two, and has no size which will limit his offers significantly. None will be in the class of Dashawn Hand.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757
()
Date: November 14, 2013 11:04PM
Nova football Wrote:
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> 757 swag Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am not sure why people are sleeping on
> Braddock,
> > offense is pretty much like the Beach teams,
> very
> > athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers
> > who can go get the ball. Looks like they added
> a
> > running game this year.Defense looks pretty
> solid,
> > 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the
> > south.
> >
> > Centreville is like most of the teams that come
> > out of North, great running game, some very
> good
> > athletes. But, when you shut down the run,
> which
> > the South teams will do, the QBs can never
> throw
> > consistant enough to win.
> > Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and
> the
> > QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I
> just
> > dont see the QB being athletic enough to
> withstand
> > the pressure he will get with the South teams.
> In
> > 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was
> > supposed to be all that, look what happened to
> him
> > against OS.
> > Defense looks good, and they say they have all
> > these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
> >
> > Either team is fine, but will not beat the
> south
>
> Centreville QB has shown all year he is capable of
> winning games with the pass if needed. Playing in
> only the first half of 90% of the games this year,
> he has thrown over 20 TD passes and run for 5 more
> and has thrown for over 1100 yards completing
> close to 80% of his passes (according to the
> Post). That is one of the big differences between
> the 2011 team and this team, the QB can throw with
> anyone in the state, he just plays in a Wing T
> offense. Centreville will be fine against any team
> it faces.
When has the Centreville QB shown he can pass when needed? Like you said they have blown everyone out. Again, his stats are the same or close as the 2011 QB, you saw what happened when he had to throw the ball. There is a big difference for a QB when the running game is working well anyone can look like a QB hero. When forced to throw, Centreville QBs have always failed, I see this year being no different.
Also, if he can throw with anyone in the state, where is he going to school at next year? The best QBs in the state are going to UVa, Vt, UNC, NC St.
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> 757 swag Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am not sure why people are sleeping on
> Braddock,
> > offense is pretty much like the Beach teams,
> very
> > athletic, a QB who can throw and run, receivers
> > who can go get the ball. Looks like they added
> a
> > running game this year.Defense looks pretty
> solid,
> > 5 shutouts, not sure they can hang with the
> > south.
> >
> > Centreville is like most of the teams that come
> > out of North, great running game, some very
> good
> > athletes. But, when you shut down the run,
> which
> > the South teams will do, the QBs can never
> throw
> > consistant enough to win.
> > Most of the NR teams run that Wing offense and
> the
> > QB only throws 10-12 times a game, if that. I
> just
> > dont see the QB being athletic enough to
> withstand
> > the pressure he will get with the South teams.
> In
> > 2011 the QB had the same type stats and was
> > supposed to be all that, look what happened to
> him
> > against OS.
> > Defense looks good, and they say they have all
> > these athletes, come to the beach,let see.
> >
> > Either team is fine, but will not beat the
> south
>
> Centreville QB has shown all year he is capable of
> winning games with the pass if needed. Playing in
> only the first half of 90% of the games this year,
> he has thrown over 20 TD passes and run for 5 more
> and has thrown for over 1100 yards completing
> close to 80% of his passes (according to the
> Post). That is one of the big differences between
> the 2011 team and this team, the QB can throw with
> anyone in the state, he just plays in a Wing T
> offense. Centreville will be fine against any team
> it faces.
When has the Centreville QB shown he can pass when needed? Like you said they have blown everyone out. Again, his stats are the same or close as the 2011 QB, you saw what happened when he had to throw the ball. There is a big difference for a QB when the running game is working well anyone can look like a QB hero. When forced to throw, Centreville QBs have always failed, I see this year being no different.
Also, if he can throw with anyone in the state, where is he going to school at next year? The best QBs in the state are going to UVa, Vt, UNC, NC St.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 14, 2013 11:31PM
Watch and learn about the Centreville QB over the next few weeks. No disrespect to the QB two years ago who admittedly was a game manager type, this current one is a quality athlete who can run, pass, guide the broader offense....
Good luck to other teams, they will need it.
Good luck to other teams, they will need it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??
()
Date: November 15, 2013 08:37AM
steve2k what are the spreads?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 15, 2013 08:40AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Leave it to the Westfield fans to look for
> excuses. Centreville has been down a few key
> players all year long and wiped the field with
> everyone including Westfield. Think Westfield is
> longing for the glory days, they simply are not as
> good this year and the talent is not as strong
> coming up either. Would not be surprised if
> Westfield loses by the second round and does not
> even get to face Braddock again. Sorry you're run
> is over, should have done something with those
> undefeated seasons while you had the chance....
Your insecurities and inferiority complex are showing – I guess a 3-11 record against Westfield does that - so it’s sort of understandable . But where you came up with that uncalled-for-rant out of my two short sentences I don’t know. Centreville is without question a superior team to Westfield this year and I’ll be rooting for the Wildcats when Westfield is out of the playoffs. Not everyone thinks like you so chill out.
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> Leave it to the Westfield fans to look for
> excuses. Centreville has been down a few key
> players all year long and wiped the field with
> everyone including Westfield. Think Westfield is
> longing for the glory days, they simply are not as
> good this year and the talent is not as strong
> coming up either. Would not be surprised if
> Westfield loses by the second round and does not
> even get to face Braddock again. Sorry you're run
> is over, should have done something with those
> undefeated seasons while you had the chance....
Your insecurities and inferiority complex are showing – I guess a 3-11 record against Westfield does that - so it’s sort of understandable . But where you came up with that uncalled-for-rant out of my two short sentences I don’t know. Centreville is without question a superior team to Westfield this year and I’ll be rooting for the Wildcats when Westfield is out of the playoffs. Not everyone thinks like you so chill out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hmmmmm
()
Date: November 15, 2013 08:43AM
I agree 100% with hsfballfan on this, there is a HUGE difference between CVHS QB situation from 2011 and the present. Walter is a tremendous athlete and can run and pass very well. He isn't going to get big time college looks, and part of that is the run-first offense he is in. State semi's and finals should be fantastic to watch.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 15, 2013 09:30AM
Here are my revised spreads. Having not seen a lot of these teams in region play, it makes it very difficult to make one for several of these games.
Division 6
(16) South Lakes @ (1) Centreville (-49.0)
(9) TC Williams @ (8) South County (-21.0)
*This will be a good game, I think in Lorton though, South County will be able to have a fairly easy win.
(13) Stone Wall Jackson (-14.0) @ (4) Washington-Lee *Upset Alert
*Don’t know SWJ, just going off some things I’ve read about this team, may be completely wrong.
(12) Battlefield @ (5) Langley (-6.0) *Awesome game… I think
*I haven’t seen Battlefield this year, but know they’re a fairly successful program in past postseason play. Very tough draw for Langley, wouldn’t be surprised if Battlefield leaves with the W. Tough to have teams in here that haven’t played Northern Region teams… weird.
(15) Chantilly @ (2) Lake Braddock (-20.0)
*An awesome 15 seed, which played the toughest schedule in the region and played most teams right down to the wire. Unfortunately losing by 1, 2, and 3 the last 3 weeks to 3 really good teams sunk them down to 15 where they’re not going to be able to do any damage against Lake Braddock. Still sucks for Braddock though, who I am sure would kill to play Hayfield instead.
(10) Fairfax @ (7) Yorktown (-21.0)
(11) Robinson (-7.0) @ (6) Patriot *Another awesome game!
*I think Patriot is good too, but I’m going with the known team.
(14) Hayfield @ (3) Westfield (-24.0)
Division 5
(16) Edison @ (1) Massaponax (-35.0)
*Who the hell has seen Massaponax?
(9) Albermarle @ (8) Falls Church (-14.0)
*Same goes for Albermarle
(13) Mount Vernon @ (4) Tuscarora (-20.0)
(12) Jefferson @ (5) North Stafford (-28.0)
*North Stafford may be the dark house in this region, have seen tape of them, and they’re pretty legit.
(15) Lee @ (2) Stone Bridge (-45.0)
*2-8 Lee should forfeit. That being said I do commend them on playing a tough schedule.
(10) Freedom Woodbridge @ (7) Broad Run (-14.0)
Division 6
(16) South Lakes @ (1) Centreville (-49.0)
(9) TC Williams @ (8) South County (-21.0)
*This will be a good game, I think in Lorton though, South County will be able to have a fairly easy win.
(13) Stone Wall Jackson (-14.0) @ (4) Washington-Lee *Upset Alert
*Don’t know SWJ, just going off some things I’ve read about this team, may be completely wrong.
(12) Battlefield @ (5) Langley (-6.0) *Awesome game… I think
*I haven’t seen Battlefield this year, but know they’re a fairly successful program in past postseason play. Very tough draw for Langley, wouldn’t be surprised if Battlefield leaves with the W. Tough to have teams in here that haven’t played Northern Region teams… weird.
(15) Chantilly @ (2) Lake Braddock (-20.0)
*An awesome 15 seed, which played the toughest schedule in the region and played most teams right down to the wire. Unfortunately losing by 1, 2, and 3 the last 3 weeks to 3 really good teams sunk them down to 15 where they’re not going to be able to do any damage against Lake Braddock. Still sucks for Braddock though, who I am sure would kill to play Hayfield instead.
(10) Fairfax @ (7) Yorktown (-21.0)
(11) Robinson (-7.0) @ (6) Patriot *Another awesome game!
*I think Patriot is good too, but I’m going with the known team.
(14) Hayfield @ (3) Westfield (-24.0)
Division 5
(16) Edison @ (1) Massaponax (-35.0)
*Who the hell has seen Massaponax?
(9) Albermarle @ (8) Falls Church (-14.0)
*Same goes for Albermarle
(13) Mount Vernon @ (4) Tuscarora (-20.0)
(12) Jefferson @ (5) North Stafford (-28.0)
*North Stafford may be the dark house in this region, have seen tape of them, and they’re pretty legit.
(15) Lee @ (2) Stone Bridge (-45.0)
*2-8 Lee should forfeit. That being said I do commend them on playing a tough schedule.
(10) Freedom Woodbridge @ (7) Broad Run (-14.0)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
observer of concorde
()
Date: November 15, 2013 09:38AM
The reason Walter will not get FBS looks is because he does not have Caleb's measurables (height and weight) or his mechanics. He's a great player no doubt, but not a top level QB college prospect.
No disrespect in that; if he wants to play football at the next level, he certainly can - it just won't be at an FBS school. QB is the toughest position to get recruited as colleges offer their QB prospects early, and schools only take 1-2 QBs a year.
I am not a Westfield fan, but Centreville partisans should not dismiss Westfield so easily in the coming years. While it is true CVille has the talent this year, kids graduate, and teams rise and fall with that natural evolution.
On another note, I saw every Concorde team play this year, and with the exception of Westfield (which had its usual 80 kids on the sideline), I was startled by how few kids Oakton, Chantilly, Robinson, and Centreville had on their sideline. I wonder if there are fewer kids going out for football (with the concussion fears and the pressure for some kids to focus on one sport - baseball, lacrosse - as early as middle school). If this is the start of longer-term trend, it will be difficult for schools to field competitive teams in the coming years if they have a smaller pool to draw from. Until I see something different in the Concorde, I will give Westfield the advantage given their uncanny knack to attract so many kids to their program.
No disrespect in that; if he wants to play football at the next level, he certainly can - it just won't be at an FBS school. QB is the toughest position to get recruited as colleges offer their QB prospects early, and schools only take 1-2 QBs a year.
I am not a Westfield fan, but Centreville partisans should not dismiss Westfield so easily in the coming years. While it is true CVille has the talent this year, kids graduate, and teams rise and fall with that natural evolution.
On another note, I saw every Concorde team play this year, and with the exception of Westfield (which had its usual 80 kids on the sideline), I was startled by how few kids Oakton, Chantilly, Robinson, and Centreville had on their sideline. I wonder if there are fewer kids going out for football (with the concussion fears and the pressure for some kids to focus on one sport - baseball, lacrosse - as early as middle school). If this is the start of longer-term trend, it will be difficult for schools to field competitive teams in the coming years if they have a smaller pool to draw from. Until I see something different in the Concorde, I will give Westfield the advantage given their uncanny knack to attract so many kids to their program.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 15, 2013 09:53AM
Someone posted on VA Preps that both Yorktown RB MJ Stewart and QB Will Roebuck will not play tonight against Fairfax due to injuries.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 15, 2013 10:16AM
I have not heard that. But even without Stewart, Yorktown should beat Fairfax.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tidewater football
()
Date: November 15, 2013 10:41AM
I agree with 757baby:
Braddock's offense is better suited to play against the 757 teams,they can pass and run good balance. Centerville is run first, only pass when you have to.
Braddock have 3 or 4 good size receivers with speed and a pretty good rb. One of the top Qbs in the country, going to UNC.
Centerville's offense is run first, run second, throw only when you have too. The running game they have is very good 2 or 3 rb that are very fast, maybe one of the top running games in the state. Not so sure the receivers are much and the QB is average. They will have to pass against the 757 teams to win and at this point the jury is still out.
Both have strong defenses.
If they play. Braddock looks to be the team, but the 757 teams would want Centerville.
Braddock's offense is better suited to play against the 757 teams,they can pass and run good balance. Centerville is run first, only pass when you have to.
Braddock have 3 or 4 good size receivers with speed and a pretty good rb. One of the top Qbs in the country, going to UNC.
Centerville's offense is run first, run second, throw only when you have too. The running game they have is very good 2 or 3 rb that are very fast, maybe one of the top running games in the state. Not so sure the receivers are much and the QB is average. They will have to pass against the 757 teams to win and at this point the jury is still out.
Both have strong defenses.
If they play. Braddock looks to be the team, but the 757 teams would want Centerville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ballfan
()
Date: November 15, 2013 10:58AM
observer of concorde Wrote:
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> The reason Walter will not get FBS looks is
> because he does not have Caleb's measurables
> (height and weight) or his mechanics. He's a
> great player no doubt, but not a top level QB
> college prospect.
>
> No disrespect in that; if he wants to play
> football at the next level, he certainly can - it
> just won't be at an FBS school. QB is the
> toughest position to get recruited as colleges
> offer their QB prospects early, and schools only
> take 1-2 QBs a year.
Walter was all-region in baseball last year and supposedly that's what he is looking to play in college.
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> The reason Walter will not get FBS looks is
> because he does not have Caleb's measurables
> (height and weight) or his mechanics. He's a
> great player no doubt, but not a top level QB
> college prospect.
>
> No disrespect in that; if he wants to play
> football at the next level, he certainly can - it
> just won't be at an FBS school. QB is the
> toughest position to get recruited as colleges
> offer their QB prospects early, and schools only
> take 1-2 QBs a year.
Walter was all-region in baseball last year and supposedly that's what he is looking to play in college.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mssr. Degraw
()
Date: November 15, 2013 11:46AM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> I have not heard that. But even without Stewart,
> Yorktown should beat Fairfax.
I agree. Especially after the loss to W-L, Yorktown will more than motivated. Easy win for Yorktown.
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> I have not heard that. But even without Stewart,
> Yorktown should beat Fairfax.
I agree. Especially after the loss to W-L, Yorktown will more than motivated. Easy win for Yorktown.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 15, 2013 12:02PM
Catching up on a few posts.
For Westfield, no doubt they were better five years ago but tide has turned. Will be same result next year as this year with Cville big win and by the way the CVille Freshman team went 9-0 again this year including beating Westfield. I "ranted" because in the previous post the author seemed to lay the loss to CVille this year to having a few Westfield players out. No dice! Again CVille has been playing multiple games without key players, makes no difference. Would be happy to play Westfield again in the playoffs and beat them by 3 or 4 touchdowns but they won't get past Patriot or Braddock, etc.
To the Beach teams wanting CVille, better think twice about what you ask for. I hope too they expect that they will face the same team from two years ago. Plus CVille does!!! have the best rushing attack in the state. Plus it has a very viable passing game that can be pulled out at any time. Henderson is fine but he too much in love with his arm and makes real hard throws just to impress. And its rushing attack will not hold up to a defense the quality of CVille. Mark it down here first - a two touchdown or more win against Braddock and then a tight toss up anyone can win game against Oscar or Ocean.
For Westfield, no doubt they were better five years ago but tide has turned. Will be same result next year as this year with Cville big win and by the way the CVille Freshman team went 9-0 again this year including beating Westfield. I "ranted" because in the previous post the author seemed to lay the loss to CVille this year to having a few Westfield players out. No dice! Again CVille has been playing multiple games without key players, makes no difference. Would be happy to play Westfield again in the playoffs and beat them by 3 or 4 touchdowns but they won't get past Patriot or Braddock, etc.
To the Beach teams wanting CVille, better think twice about what you ask for. I hope too they expect that they will face the same team from two years ago. Plus CVille does!!! have the best rushing attack in the state. Plus it has a very viable passing game that can be pulled out at any time. Henderson is fine but he too much in love with his arm and makes real hard throws just to impress. And its rushing attack will not hold up to a defense the quality of CVille. Mark it down here first - a two touchdown or more win against Braddock and then a tight toss up anyone can win game against Oscar or Ocean.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 15, 2013 12:29PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I "ranted" because in the previous post the author
> seemed to lay the loss to CVille this year to
> having a few Westfield players out.
I was only referring to margin of victory. No, I don't think Westfield is good enough to beat Centreville. If they had real QB it could be a little more competitive.
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> I "ranted" because in the previous post the author
> seemed to lay the loss to CVille this year to
> having a few Westfield players out.
I was only referring to margin of victory. No, I don't think Westfield is good enough to beat Centreville. If they had real QB it could be a little more competitive.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 15, 2013 12:56PM
Ok I will let you off the hook. CVille is better than Westfield now, I also admit a few years ago Westfield was better. I do believe though that the talent pool is shifting more toward CVille and the two Region losses (CVille two years ago and Oakton last year) deflated their balloon a bit. We will see if they can get back on stride...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
observerofConcorde
()
Date: November 15, 2013 12:58PM
Good for Walter that he's choosing baseball. If he can ever play professionally, there's far more $$ in baseball!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
luckydeucetwo
()
Date: November 15, 2013 12:59PM
Westfield not so good, Lake Braddock not so good, Centreville not so bad!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 15, 2013 02:06PM
I have seen all of the important teams in the Northern Region and Centreville is a big notch above. Think they also have a strong chance against the Beach teams. Many people are saying Centreville is best team from the Northern region since at least the 2007 Westfield state championship team. I believe them. Personally not sold on Lake Braddock, they will be exposed as a good but not great team. Just the way it is.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 15, 2013 10:34PM
Mssr. Degraw Wrote:
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> steve k2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have not heard that. But even without
> Stewart,
> > Yorktown should beat Fairfax.
>
>
> I agree. Especially after the loss to W-L,
> Yorktown will more than motivated. Easy win for
> Yorktown.
Yorktown won 12-7 on a late TD drive but #2 from FFX looked good. Decent game between 7 and 10 seeds. Was hoping to see Stewart but he and the QB didn't play.
-------------------------------------------------------
> steve k2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have not heard that. But even without
> Stewart,
> > Yorktown should beat Fairfax.
>
>
> I agree. Especially after the loss to W-L,
> Yorktown will more than motivated. Easy win for
> Yorktown.
Yorktown won 12-7 on a late TD drive but #2 from FFX looked good. Decent game between 7 and 10 seeds. Was hoping to see Stewart but he and the QB didn't play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KDTrey
()
Date: November 15, 2013 11:18PM
Any update on final scores? What are the projected match ups for next week?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco
()
Date: November 15, 2013 11:21PM
Soco won 51/27
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
()
Date: November 15, 2013 11:29PM
From Virginia Preps:
6A NORTH
(1) Centreville 35 (16) South Lakes 0
(2) Lake Braddock 56 (15) Chantilly 31
(3) Westfield 33 (14) Hayfield 12
(13) Stonewall Jackson (Manassas) 42 (4) Washington-Lee 34
(5) Langley 28 (12) Battlefield 21
(11) Robinson 35 (6) Patriot 13
(7) Yorktown 12 (10) Fairfax 7
(8) South County 51 (9) T.C. Williams 27
5A NORTH
(1) Massaponax 60 (16) Edison 22
(2) Stone Bridge 55 (15) R.E. Lee (Springfield) 7
(3) Briar Woods 57 (14) Potomac Falls 0
(4) Tuscarora 35 (13) Mount Vernon 27
(5) North Stafford 43 (12) Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria) 7
(6) Mountain View 21 (11) Potomac 7
(7) Broad Run 35 (10) Freedom (PW) 6
(8) Falls Church 24 (9) Albemarle 23
6A NORTH
(1) Centreville 35 (16) South Lakes 0
(2) Lake Braddock 56 (15) Chantilly 31
(3) Westfield 33 (14) Hayfield 12
(13) Stonewall Jackson (Manassas) 42 (4) Washington-Lee 34
(5) Langley 28 (12) Battlefield 21
(11) Robinson 35 (6) Patriot 13
(7) Yorktown 12 (10) Fairfax 7
(8) South County 51 (9) T.C. Williams 27
5A NORTH
(1) Massaponax 60 (16) Edison 22
(2) Stone Bridge 55 (15) R.E. Lee (Springfield) 7
(3) Briar Woods 57 (14) Potomac Falls 0
(4) Tuscarora 35 (13) Mount Vernon 27
(5) North Stafford 43 (12) Thomas Jefferson (Alexandria) 7
(6) Mountain View 21 (11) Potomac 7
(7) Broad Run 35 (10) Freedom (PW) 6
(8) Falls Church 24 (9) Albemarle 23
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: November 16, 2013 03:09AM
Westfield just warming up, baby!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wildcatrunsupport
()
Date: November 16, 2013 08:35AM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
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> I have seen all of the important teams in the
> Northern Region and Centreville is a big notch
> above. Think they also have a strong chance
> against the Beach teams. Many people are saying
> Centreville is best team from the Northern region
> since at least the 2007 Westfield state
> championship team. I believe them. Personally
> not sold on Lake Braddock, they will be exposed as
> a good but not great team. Just the way it is.
totally ridiculous. that westfield team had an NFL quarterback and had a massive roster that dwarfed Centreville. Teams like that dont sprout up out of the ground. That 2007 team was a byproduct of a tremendously well run program. I am a wildcat fan, and think this is the best team they have ever had, but please...
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> I have seen all of the important teams in the
> Northern Region and Centreville is a big notch
> above. Think they also have a strong chance
> against the Beach teams. Many people are saying
> Centreville is best team from the Northern region
> since at least the 2007 Westfield state
> championship team. I believe them. Personally
> not sold on Lake Braddock, they will be exposed as
> a good but not great team. Just the way it is.
totally ridiculous. that westfield team had an NFL quarterback and had a massive roster that dwarfed Centreville. Teams like that dont sprout up out of the ground. That 2007 team was a byproduct of a tremendously well run program. I am a wildcat fan, and think this is the best team they have ever had, but please...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Maybe
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:09AM
This is an opportune time to play cville for soco. A lot of key injuries
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Georgefour
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:18AM
Who is injured
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
........
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:21AM
Georgefour Wrote:
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> Who is injured
AJ Turner
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> Who is injured
AJ Turner
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Georgefour
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:24AM
What is his injury is he out and how long?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
........
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:26AM
Georgefour Wrote:
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> What is his injury is he out and how long?
I've heard it's an mcl injury
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> What is his injury is he out and how long?
I've heard it's an mcl injury
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yo
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:27AM
Yeah that might be an interesting game for cville
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concernedparent11
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:29AM
I was at the Lee-stonebridge game and was beside myself. The stone bridge offense did whatever they wanted, and defensively they stifled out any hopes for anything good to happen on offense. I swear the coaches don't know how to use all the athletes they have at lee. its so frustrating week after week to see the same mistakes made by terrible coaches over at lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
regionfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:44AM
excited to see the soco-centreville game. the stallions couldnt hang with the big boys at braddock, so will be interesting to see if they can get even by playing another region power. I expect the wildcats to win, but could be closer then the experts think...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:51AM
Not the best week with the spreads, but all game selections based off my spreads were correct! On to next week.
(16) South Lakes @ (1) Centreville (-49.0)
*Centreville won 35-0; did not cover spread
(9) TC Williams @ (8) South County (-21.0)
*South County won 51-27; good spread
(13) Stone Wall Jackson (-14.0) @ (4) Washington-Lee *Upset Alert
*SWJ with the seed upset 42-34.
(12) Battlefield @ (5) Langley (-6.0) *Awesome game… I think
*Langley won 28-21; pretty much nailed that spread
(15) Chantilly @ (2) Lake Braddock (-20.0)
*Lake Braddock won 56-31; Chantilly’s O came to play against a pretty decent LB offense, but couldn’t stop their vaunted passing attack.
(10) Fairfax @ (7) Yorktown (-21.0)
*Yorktown won 12-7, a lot closer than I expected
(11) Robinson (-7.0) @ (6) Patriot *Another awesome game!
*Robinson won 35-13; sets up a rematch with Westfield which was a 1 point game a few weeks ago.
(14) Hayfield @ (3) Westfield (-24.0)
*Westfield won 33-12.
Division 5
(16) Edison @ (1) Massaponax (-35.0)
*Mass won 60-22; good spread
(9) Albermarle @ (8) Falls Church (-14.0)
*Falls Church won 24-23
(13) Mount Vernon @ (4) Tuscarora (-20.0)
*Tuscarora won 35-27.
(12) Jefferson @ (5) North Stafford (-28.0)
*North Stafford won 43-7.
(15) Lee @ (2) Stone Bridge (-45.0)
*Stone Bridge won 55-7; great spread
(10) Freedom Woodbridge @ (7) Broad Run (-14.0)
*Broad Run won 35-6.
(16) South Lakes @ (1) Centreville (-49.0)
*Centreville won 35-0; did not cover spread
(9) TC Williams @ (8) South County (-21.0)
*South County won 51-27; good spread
(13) Stone Wall Jackson (-14.0) @ (4) Washington-Lee *Upset Alert
*SWJ with the seed upset 42-34.
(12) Battlefield @ (5) Langley (-6.0) *Awesome game… I think
*Langley won 28-21; pretty much nailed that spread
(15) Chantilly @ (2) Lake Braddock (-20.0)
*Lake Braddock won 56-31; Chantilly’s O came to play against a pretty decent LB offense, but couldn’t stop their vaunted passing attack.
(10) Fairfax @ (7) Yorktown (-21.0)
*Yorktown won 12-7, a lot closer than I expected
(11) Robinson (-7.0) @ (6) Patriot *Another awesome game!
*Robinson won 35-13; sets up a rematch with Westfield which was a 1 point game a few weeks ago.
(14) Hayfield @ (3) Westfield (-24.0)
*Westfield won 33-12.
Division 5
(16) Edison @ (1) Massaponax (-35.0)
*Mass won 60-22; good spread
(9) Albermarle @ (8) Falls Church (-14.0)
*Falls Church won 24-23
(13) Mount Vernon @ (4) Tuscarora (-20.0)
*Tuscarora won 35-27.
(12) Jefferson @ (5) North Stafford (-28.0)
*North Stafford won 43-7.
(15) Lee @ (2) Stone Bridge (-45.0)
*Stone Bridge won 55-7; great spread
(10) Freedom Woodbridge @ (7) Broad Run (-14.0)
*Broad Run won 35-6.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tossweep
()
Date: November 16, 2013 10:05AM
concernedparent11 Wrote:
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> I was at the Lee-stonebridge game and was beside
> myself. The stone bridge offense did whatever they
> wanted, and defensively they stifled out any hopes
> for anything good to happen on offense. I swear
> the coaches don't know how to use all the athletes
> they have at lee. its so frustrating week after
> week to see the same mistakes made by terrible
> coaches over at lee.
Clearly a delusional parent. Everyone knows that murray, brooks, and shaker and great coaches that know what they're doing. Sometimes you dont have the players. I also question where all these "great athletes" are at roberto e lee high school...
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> I was at the Lee-stonebridge game and was beside
> myself. The stone bridge offense did whatever they
> wanted, and defensively they stifled out any hopes
> for anything good to happen on offense. I swear
> the coaches don't know how to use all the athletes
> they have at lee. its so frustrating week after
> week to see the same mistakes made by terrible
> coaches over at lee.
Clearly a delusional parent. Everyone knows that murray, brooks, and shaker and great coaches that know what they're doing. Sometimes you dont have the players. I also question where all these "great athletes" are at roberto e lee high school...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
beach matchups
()
Date: November 16, 2013 10:13AM
Does anyone know what happened down in the eastern region playoffs last night?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
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Date: November 16, 2013 10:44AM
concernedparent11 Wrote:
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> The stone bridge offense did whatever they
> wanted, and defensively they stifled out any hopes
> for anything good to happen on offense.
They were 2-8 for a reason. Why would this game have been any different?
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> The stone bridge offense did whatever they
> wanted, and defensively they stifled out any hopes
> for anything good to happen on offense.
They were 2-8 for a reason. Why would this game have been any different?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
theskyisfalling
()
Date: November 16, 2013 10:53AM
concernedparent11 Wrote:
> I swear
> the coaches don't know how to use all the athletes
> they have at lee. its so frustrating week after
> week to see the same mistakes made by terrible
> coaches over at lee.
to concernedparent11:
I coached against Lee this season and it was a pain in the ass to prepare for their offense. The offensive coaches there scored alot of points when they were at west potomac with similar athletes.
This seems to be a theme in northern virginia across several schools in this region. "if my little johnny doesn't play, its all the coaches fault." Its bullshit. Teach your kids some accountability for once. At least its not baseball parents.
> I swear
> the coaches don't know how to use all the athletes
> they have at lee. its so frustrating week after
> week to see the same mistakes made by terrible
> coaches over at lee.
to concernedparent11:
I coached against Lee this season and it was a pain in the ass to prepare for their offense. The offensive coaches there scored alot of points when they were at west potomac with similar athletes.
This seems to be a theme in northern virginia across several schools in this region. "if my little johnny doesn't play, its all the coaches fault." Its bullshit. Teach your kids some accountability for once. At least its not baseball parents.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LB/Cville?
()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:02PM
who is more likely to go 11-1 LB or CVILLE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:07PM
Neither - they are on a crash course to play in the state semis and will both be 13-0 at that point. So question should be who is more likely to go 13-1?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
brad dock
()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:17PM
LB going to the state finals baby!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:19PM
Not so sure about Lake Braddock. I have posted before analysis as to why Centreville will beat them and go to the state finals.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:40PM
Before anyone freaks out, especially Cville fans, AJ Turner was hurt last night. I've heard that it was a neck strain. He should be good to go next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville injured players
()
Date: November 16, 2013 01:40PM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> Before anyone freaks out, especially Cville fans,
> AJ Turner was hurt last night. I've heard that it
> was a neck strain. He should be good to go next
> week.
What about Nickens-Yzer? I heard he re-aggravated his shoulder injury and might be out for a couple of weeks? If true, not good...
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> Before anyone freaks out, especially Cville fans,
> AJ Turner was hurt last night. I've heard that it
> was a neck strain. He should be good to go next
> week.
What about Nickens-Yzer? I heard he re-aggravated his shoulder injury and might be out for a couple of weeks? If true, not good...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 01:49PM
That is correct, I was at the CVille game last night. Did appear that AJ Turner had a neck strain/sprain, not an MCL injury like some errant post from above stated. Good news it does not appear to be much worse than that. In any event, best of luck in recovery Mr. Turner, you are a great player and CVille Nation is looking forward to seeing you in upcoming weeks (and next year too!!)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 01:50PM
Not clear how bad Nickens-Yzer is hurt
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat Fan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:08PM
What was the halftime score of the Centreville-South Lakes Game?
Was it a blow out like the first 10 games?
I know 35-0 is till a lopsided game but I was expecting much worst!
Was it a blow out like the first 10 games?
I know 35-0 is till a lopsided game but I was expecting much worst!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WTF happened in Ashburn last nig
()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:08PM
147-14.
That is the combined score for the three Ashburn teams ( Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, and Broad Run ), all of whom won easily.
Why is Ashburn so good in football? Any reason?
That is the combined score for the three Ashburn teams ( Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, and Broad Run ), all of whom won easily.
Why is Ashburn so good in football? Any reason?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:16PM
For CVille game it was 21-0 at half. Typical, sloppy first playoff game where one team much better than the other. Then scare with AJ Turner injury and so the game became more of going through the motions and just getting it done with no real serious injuries. Not to worry, CVille is still as good as advertised, just need to stay healthy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:18PM
Excuse me it was 28-0 at half.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WildcatNation
()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:24PM
CVille certainly controlled the game last night but South Lakes came to play! They had a TD called back and the QB overthrew 2 or 3 other wide open TDs. Score could have been 35-14 or 35-21. There was a lot of respect between the 2 coaching staffs after the game. I think Haddock left off the gas in the 2nd half
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:38PM
Not so much what South Lakes did but what CVille did not do. Yes there were a few missed assignments but that will be good film fodder for the coaches to keep the pressure on the team in practice. Touchdown would not have been a touchdown without the holding call. Plus if South Lakes had scored the gas would not have been let off and it would have been 52-14 or whatever...
But your broader point is well taken - cannot take anything for granted in the playoffs because it is one and done.
But your broader point is well taken - cannot take anything for granted in the playoffs because it is one and done.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SLFAN
()
Date: November 16, 2013 03:18PM
Centreville had some problems with South Lakes passing game, they had people open, just didnt get it to them. They won easily, but, You can say whatever you want, if they play like that against South County or Lake Braddock, they will be turning in the equipment. Going through the motions will not get it for Centreville.
The playoffs are a new season, Centreville can be beat!
The playoffs are a new season, Centreville can be beat!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 03:55PM
Sure, reasonable opinion but again I think just some confusion on two plays in pass coverage last night for Centreville. Congratulations to South Lakes for almost scoring points......
Simply a good wake up call and Centreville will make adjustments. Problem with beating every team by 30-40 points is a few mistakes get amplified. I do not expect Centreville to beat South County and then Langley/SJackson and then Lake Braddock by 30-40 points but I do expect them to beat them. Remember Centreville demolished Chantilly 42-0 and Chantilly put up 31 points on Lake Braddock last night. There is a difference between can be beat and will be beat.
Simply a good wake up call and Centreville will make adjustments. Problem with beating every team by 30-40 points is a few mistakes get amplified. I do not expect Centreville to beat South County and then Langley/SJackson and then Lake Braddock by 30-40 points but I do expect them to beat them. Remember Centreville demolished Chantilly 42-0 and Chantilly put up 31 points on Lake Braddock last night. There is a difference between can be beat and will be beat.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 16, 2013 04:04PM
Centreville will not lose to SOCO or LB
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
brad dock
()
Date: November 16, 2013 04:17PM
we will see about that baby - LB all da way
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOCO FAN
()
Date: November 16, 2013 04:19PM
Centreville WILL lose to SOCO. Mark it down.They played WF in the rain and lucked out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 04:28PM
I like "luck" when it is based on a 28-0 win over Westfield who by the way took Lake Braddock to the brink losing only by 4 or something like that. And by extension Braddock disposed of SOCO so not sure where your logic suggests SOCO will beat Centreville. Lake Braddock might make a game out of it with CVille but SOCO will be overmatched when it plays a solid overall team like CVille. Best of luck to your team, you will need it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
coach
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:04PM
Just a few points I want to go over so please forgive me for the novel I'm about to write.
Have seen Centreville play this year, it definitely will be a shock if they are not the 6A North representative for the state championship. As noted in several of these posts they have tremendous athletes but so do a lot of the Concorde teams. What sets Centreville apart is their coaching staff, hands down best in the 6A North.
The Westfield-Lake Braddock game should have been won by Westfield, one of their MLB's intercepted Henderson with under 2 minutes left in the game. The referee closest to the play, but with the worst angle, ruled it an incompletion. The replay for Gameday Magazine and photos from the game show it was clearly an interception. The very next play is when Henderson threw the winning TD pass.
My personal opinion is that if a Centreville-Lake Braddock game does wind up transpiring for the 6A North title Centreville will win big. It will be close for the first half, maybe into the 3rd quarter. However, Lake Braddock has a few players that play both sides of the ball and against Westfield those young men certainly looked gassed by the 4th quarter. Think Centreville will wear them down and pull away by at least 2 TD's. But that's just my opinion of course.
All teams go through injuries throughout the season, difference is the deep teams can keep plugging along. Please don't think I'm making excuses but Westfield did have 2 starting OL's and 6 defensive starters out for the Centreville game.
Do I think that would have made a difference in the outcome, absolutely! Do I think that means that Westfield would have won, I doubt it. Centreville is just to strong, hardest team to prepare for because they have no weaknesses or tendencies that show on film. Once again, that's all about coaching.
I also don't think Westfield's run of anything is over. They've been around for what, 13 years? With the exception for the last 2 seasons Verbanic was there they typically win 8-10 regular season games every year. Byproduct of a school that has 2,700 or so kids, bound to be a few good football players in the mix.
Centreville has a very good chance to not only win the 6A title this year but next year too. However, anything can happen, especially in the postseason, Westfield certainly is a great example of this over the past 2 postseason runs.
Good luck to all the teams still playing, should be some good games over the next few weeks.
Have seen Centreville play this year, it definitely will be a shock if they are not the 6A North representative for the state championship. As noted in several of these posts they have tremendous athletes but so do a lot of the Concorde teams. What sets Centreville apart is their coaching staff, hands down best in the 6A North.
The Westfield-Lake Braddock game should have been won by Westfield, one of their MLB's intercepted Henderson with under 2 minutes left in the game. The referee closest to the play, but with the worst angle, ruled it an incompletion. The replay for Gameday Magazine and photos from the game show it was clearly an interception. The very next play is when Henderson threw the winning TD pass.
My personal opinion is that if a Centreville-Lake Braddock game does wind up transpiring for the 6A North title Centreville will win big. It will be close for the first half, maybe into the 3rd quarter. However, Lake Braddock has a few players that play both sides of the ball and against Westfield those young men certainly looked gassed by the 4th quarter. Think Centreville will wear them down and pull away by at least 2 TD's. But that's just my opinion of course.
All teams go through injuries throughout the season, difference is the deep teams can keep plugging along. Please don't think I'm making excuses but Westfield did have 2 starting OL's and 6 defensive starters out for the Centreville game.
Do I think that would have made a difference in the outcome, absolutely! Do I think that means that Westfield would have won, I doubt it. Centreville is just to strong, hardest team to prepare for because they have no weaknesses or tendencies that show on film. Once again, that's all about coaching.
I also don't think Westfield's run of anything is over. They've been around for what, 13 years? With the exception for the last 2 seasons Verbanic was there they typically win 8-10 regular season games every year. Byproduct of a school that has 2,700 or so kids, bound to be a few good football players in the mix.
Centreville has a very good chance to not only win the 6A title this year but next year too. However, anything can happen, especially in the postseason, Westfield certainly is a great example of this over the past 2 postseason runs.
Good luck to all the teams still playing, should be some good games over the next few weeks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:07PM
Well reasoned analysis. Thanks for bringing some additional well thought out posting to this site.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
retardonomics
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:26PM
coach Wrote:
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> What sets Centreville apart is
> their coaching staff, hands down best in the 6A
> North.
HAHA. Most ridiculous statement ever put on this website.
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> What sets Centreville apart is
> their coaching staff, hands down best in the 6A
> North.
HAHA. Most ridiculous statement ever put on this website.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:30PM
Would you like to suggest some alternative choices?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVA observer
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:37PM
Anything can happened in the playoffs and it usually does.
Regular season doesnt really matter now, lose one and your done.
Centreville had a great regular season, but to say they they cant be beat....see Westfield 2011, 2012 undefeated both years.As a matter of fact, there are times the best team doesnt win the region.
The northern region is down this year, it makes Braddock and Centreville look better then they are. Most games were blow outs in the first half.I cant remember it being as bad as this.
I give both teams credit for a great regular season, but be aware, both can be beat.
Didnt Centreville beat Oakton last year in the regular season, then lost to them in the playoffs. Braddock lost in the first round to Oakton last year.
Neither team is invincible.
Regular season doesnt really matter now, lose one and your done.
Centreville had a great regular season, but to say they they cant be beat....see Westfield 2011, 2012 undefeated both years.As a matter of fact, there are times the best team doesnt win the region.
The northern region is down this year, it makes Braddock and Centreville look better then they are. Most games were blow outs in the first half.I cant remember it being as bad as this.
I give both teams credit for a great regular season, but be aware, both can be beat.
Didnt Centreville beat Oakton last year in the regular season, then lost to them in the playoffs. Braddock lost in the first round to Oakton last year.
Neither team is invincible.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:53PM
Of course no team is invincible (and that includes CVille and Braddock). In fact from here on any of the teams left "could" win out as teams get hot, there are injuries, bad weather, what have you. I personally am just saying I have seen all of the teams play this year and my thought is CVille and Braddock will win out there sides of the bracket and then CVille will win by about 10-14 points against Braddock. If some other team upsets this prediction I will be the first to offer my congratulations and support down in Charlottesville. It is simply not right for other posters to say this team is going to win or whatever but there is never any analysis to support that conjecture. If you make a claim, show a bit of thought process....otherwise we could all just say a team that is 0-10 is somehow going to magically make the playoffs and beat the contenders...
Stay classy NOVA.
Stay classy NOVA.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:57PM
Also do not think that Northern Region football is that down compared to previous years - it is just that CVille and Lake Braddock are a notch above. If you read other sites you will see the same happening down south where Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes are a notch above the competition down there as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NRWatcher
()
Date: November 16, 2013 06:07PM
My observations after watching both LB and Centreville. I have no bias toward either team. I think it would be a great game.
Here is the comparison:
Offense
QB LB Size arm strength, running, passing, LB much better as they are geared for pass
RB Centreville both have very good running games, Centreville may be a little better as the offense is geared for run but not much
WR LB big tall fast receivers who get to the ball and can run after the catch
OL LB they have the size strength can run and pass block as good as I have seen this year.
Defense
DL Centreville they are very good up front
LB LB they play down hill and are very good in coverage
DB Centreville very good secondary will be tested against LB tho
Who will win .....LB in a very close game
Here is the comparison:
Offense
QB LB Size arm strength, running, passing, LB much better as they are geared for pass
RB Centreville both have very good running games, Centreville may be a little better as the offense is geared for run but not much
WR LB big tall fast receivers who get to the ball and can run after the catch
OL LB they have the size strength can run and pass block as good as I have seen this year.
Defense
DL Centreville they are very good up front
LB LB they play down hill and are very good in coverage
DB Centreville very good secondary will be tested against LB tho
Who will win .....LB in a very close game
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: November 16, 2013 06:08PM
to change the subject, TC got a 15 yard penalty Friday night for running through SOCOs inflatable tunnel. they are sooo stupid
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jack Cooked Kent
()
Date: November 16, 2013 06:11PM
WTF happened in Ashburn last nig Wrote:
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> 147-14.
>
> That is the combined score for the three Ashburn
> teams ( Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, and Broad Run
> ), all of whom won easily.
>
> Why is Ashburn so good in football? Any reason?
Used to be Redskins training camp, so lots of people with current or former association with the team
Full of middle-management types who work 9-5 jobs and spend their spare time coaching their kids
Small schools so they play crap teams like Marshall, Lee and Park View, rather than big schools like Centreville and Lake Braddock
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> 147-14.
>
> That is the combined score for the three Ashburn
> teams ( Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, and Broad Run
> ), all of whom won easily.
>
> Why is Ashburn so good in football? Any reason?
Used to be Redskins training camp, so lots of people with current or former association with the team
Full of middle-management types who work 9-5 jobs and spend their spare time coaching their kids
Small schools so they play crap teams like Marshall, Lee and Park View, rather than big schools like Centreville and Lake Braddock
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 06:22PM
First to the TCWilliams tunnel thing that is why teams like that are not in the playoffs any longer (smile). I understand that just pissed SOCO off to play even better than they are.
To the CVille/LBraddock analysis - well thought out, thanks again for upping the level on this site. A few quibbles though (reasonable people can differ):
QB - Of course Henderson is better than Walter but not by as much as you might think. Walter can run very well, is very athletic and strong, and has been very efficient in the 15 of so passes per game he is asked to throw.
Running - big edge to Centreville not just slight edge. Theirs is the best pure running attack I have seen at the high school level in some time. Braddock's running attack has worked against lesser competition but will not hold up to Centreville D which has something like 70 stops for losses against opposing offenses.
Linebackers - no one in Braddock or the Northern Region for that matter is better than Chad Wiggins at CVille. If I am coaching I would have him spying on Henderson all game long. Henderson will not be able to scramble out of messes like he has against lesser competition.
Finally, I think the big difference is Offenses could be thought of as a wash -the Braddock passing plus some running vs CVille running plus some passing. Even with that I will take the running on a cold December day anytime than the spread offense. However I do think that Cville's defense is a true notch above that of Lake Braddock's. We have seen that all year with CVille for instance blanking Westfield but Braddock giving up 24 against them and CVille blanking Chantilly but Braddock giving up 31 (yikes - that is quite a bit, no disrespect to Chantilly but it is simply not as good as a Centreville this year). Defense will rule.
Final piece - not always a big deal but it will be in a state semis- Centreville has home field advantage. Crowd will make a difference here and there.
Again here is my prediction CVille 35 Lake Braddock 24
To the CVille/LBraddock analysis - well thought out, thanks again for upping the level on this site. A few quibbles though (reasonable people can differ):
QB - Of course Henderson is better than Walter but not by as much as you might think. Walter can run very well, is very athletic and strong, and has been very efficient in the 15 of so passes per game he is asked to throw.
Running - big edge to Centreville not just slight edge. Theirs is the best pure running attack I have seen at the high school level in some time. Braddock's running attack has worked against lesser competition but will not hold up to Centreville D which has something like 70 stops for losses against opposing offenses.
Linebackers - no one in Braddock or the Northern Region for that matter is better than Chad Wiggins at CVille. If I am coaching I would have him spying on Henderson all game long. Henderson will not be able to scramble out of messes like he has against lesser competition.
Finally, I think the big difference is Offenses could be thought of as a wash -the Braddock passing plus some running vs CVille running plus some passing. Even with that I will take the running on a cold December day anytime than the spread offense. However I do think that Cville's defense is a true notch above that of Lake Braddock's. We have seen that all year with CVille for instance blanking Westfield but Braddock giving up 24 against them and CVille blanking Chantilly but Braddock giving up 31 (yikes - that is quite a bit, no disrespect to Chantilly but it is simply not as good as a Centreville this year). Defense will rule.
Final piece - not always a big deal but it will be in a state semis- Centreville has home field advantage. Crowd will make a difference here and there.
Again here is my prediction CVille 35 Lake Braddock 24
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ashburn Glory
()
Date: November 16, 2013 07:05PM
You guys with your Fairfax superiority complex crack me up.
Ashburn teams are all under 2000 kids. They play schools of similar size... and typically destroy Fairfax schools of similar size.
Stone Bridge almost beat Lake Braddock this year, and didn't play well against Westfield, but have beat them in the past.
And don't say it is just Stone Bridge, because Briar Woods is going to knock off SB in two weeks.
Add 800 - 1000 kids to any of the Ashburn schools and it would be that team playing Centreville for trip to the state finals.
Hell, a .500 Broad Run team beat Herndon by 30 last year, and Broad Run crushed South Lakes in a full scrimmage right before season started.
Poster was right about middle management types taking off to coach their kids.
Nothing wrong with that, however.
Ashburn teams are all under 2000 kids. They play schools of similar size... and typically destroy Fairfax schools of similar size.
Stone Bridge almost beat Lake Braddock this year, and didn't play well against Westfield, but have beat them in the past.
And don't say it is just Stone Bridge, because Briar Woods is going to knock off SB in two weeks.
Add 800 - 1000 kids to any of the Ashburn schools and it would be that team playing Centreville for trip to the state finals.
Hell, a .500 Broad Run team beat Herndon by 30 last year, and Broad Run crushed South Lakes in a full scrimmage right before season started.
Poster was right about middle management types taking off to coach their kids.
Nothing wrong with that, however.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Reminds me of
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Date: November 16, 2013 07:12PM
This SC/CVille game reminds me of sc/sb a couple of years ago
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ahhh...opinions
()
Date: November 16, 2013 07:48PM
hsfballfan...nice commentary and quite refreshing to hear legit opinions rather than the vitriol most like to serve as insight on this site...
Why don't we look at the washington post and see what it says about stats and head to head because, really at the end of the day, that's about all we have until LB plays Cville. but before...a little background.
Cville runs a wing t - a 4 back offense. each back and series compliments the other. their offensive line is arguably one of the best. huge, gaping holes to run through. their backs are fast, athletic, quality through and through. Each player is a compliment to the other and the entire offense is about using fakes and deception. REALLY good HS rushing offense. Their pass game is built off their run game. they don't truly throw to throw. they throw because you're overplaying some aspect of their run game which gives you lots of one on one throws. Walter is really good at faking and finding the kid he needs to throw to.
LB runs a zone read offense. 2 backs with the qb and running back each connected to the bigger play. they don't run the old 5 wide stuff like they used to...they actually run the ball and they block very effectively. No FB in their system, not a lot of faking, just hit the dive and read the play. They use their throw game to set up their run game. stop the run and the ball goes to the receivers...overplay the receivers and the ball goes to the rb or qb.
seen both play and it's a toss up as to who runs the ball better. it's just different and it's all personal preferences and who you like and where you live as to who runs the ball or passes the ball better or not.
as far as passing the ball, I think I'd go with LB if I had to drive the field. that's what henderson did to westfield when they needed it. Can Centreville do that with 2 minutes left in the game? running play action is not the same as pushing the ball downfield. Just isn't.
how about some stats?
common opponents as found on WashPost -
chantilly - passing
Walter was 3-7 for 70 yards with no TDs.
henderson was 13-22 166 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
chantilly rushing -
CV 28 rushes for 307 yards - 4 players each had about 80 yards a piece, great balance
LB 36 rushes for 307 yards - lee had 196 and henderson 111
robinson - passing
walter - 10-15 158 with 2 TDs
henderson 14-25 201 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
robinson rushing -
CV 19 rushes for 95 yards...can't believe that's true but that's what they had...CV scored on some unusual plays - turner had a TD pass? Punt return by Tutt. Turner had 64 rushing yards, Walter had 31.
LB 33 rushes for 200 yards - O'Brien had 57 and Henderson 112
TC williams rushing -
CV Turner went nuts - 6 for 142 2 TDs. walter no stats.
LB 35 rushes for 355 yards. obrien had 118 2tds and henderson 120 2 tds.
TC williams passing -
walter - 12-14 206 and 3 TDs
henderson - 11-26 182 and 2 TDs.
so what can we say from all of this?
both run their schemes effectively. both throw the ball effectively. CV helps their defense by grinding out teams. LB does no favors running 5 plays in 30 seconds then back goes the defense...
when they both play I say it will be an epic game. Kinda like the region championship two years ago between WF and CV.
CV will grind out yards and keep the LB defense on the field. LB will score quick and on big plays. I guess it might come down to kicking...I'd go with huddleston from LB.
what the hell, who knows...let's just see and enjoy the game.
Why don't we look at the washington post and see what it says about stats and head to head because, really at the end of the day, that's about all we have until LB plays Cville. but before...a little background.
Cville runs a wing t - a 4 back offense. each back and series compliments the other. their offensive line is arguably one of the best. huge, gaping holes to run through. their backs are fast, athletic, quality through and through. Each player is a compliment to the other and the entire offense is about using fakes and deception. REALLY good HS rushing offense. Their pass game is built off their run game. they don't truly throw to throw. they throw because you're overplaying some aspect of their run game which gives you lots of one on one throws. Walter is really good at faking and finding the kid he needs to throw to.
LB runs a zone read offense. 2 backs with the qb and running back each connected to the bigger play. they don't run the old 5 wide stuff like they used to...they actually run the ball and they block very effectively. No FB in their system, not a lot of faking, just hit the dive and read the play. They use their throw game to set up their run game. stop the run and the ball goes to the receivers...overplay the receivers and the ball goes to the rb or qb.
seen both play and it's a toss up as to who runs the ball better. it's just different and it's all personal preferences and who you like and where you live as to who runs the ball or passes the ball better or not.
as far as passing the ball, I think I'd go with LB if I had to drive the field. that's what henderson did to westfield when they needed it. Can Centreville do that with 2 minutes left in the game? running play action is not the same as pushing the ball downfield. Just isn't.
how about some stats?
common opponents as found on WashPost -
chantilly - passing
Walter was 3-7 for 70 yards with no TDs.
henderson was 13-22 166 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
chantilly rushing -
CV 28 rushes for 307 yards - 4 players each had about 80 yards a piece, great balance
LB 36 rushes for 307 yards - lee had 196 and henderson 111
robinson - passing
walter - 10-15 158 with 2 TDs
henderson 14-25 201 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
robinson rushing -
CV 19 rushes for 95 yards...can't believe that's true but that's what they had...CV scored on some unusual plays - turner had a TD pass? Punt return by Tutt. Turner had 64 rushing yards, Walter had 31.
LB 33 rushes for 200 yards - O'Brien had 57 and Henderson 112
TC williams rushing -
CV Turner went nuts - 6 for 142 2 TDs. walter no stats.
LB 35 rushes for 355 yards. obrien had 118 2tds and henderson 120 2 tds.
TC williams passing -
walter - 12-14 206 and 3 TDs
henderson - 11-26 182 and 2 TDs.
so what can we say from all of this?
both run their schemes effectively. both throw the ball effectively. CV helps their defense by grinding out teams. LB does no favors running 5 plays in 30 seconds then back goes the defense...
when they both play I say it will be an epic game. Kinda like the region championship two years ago between WF and CV.
CV will grind out yards and keep the LB defense on the field. LB will score quick and on big plays. I guess it might come down to kicking...I'd go with huddleston from LB.
what the hell, who knows...let's just see and enjoy the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SLParentz
()
Date: November 16, 2013 07:50PM
Broad Run "Crushed" South Lakes?
Broad Run beat South Lakes 7-0. When they put the JVs in Broad run scored another TD.
Get a Life!
Broad Run beat South Lakes 7-0. When they put the JVs in Broad run scored another TD.
Get a Life!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 16, 2013 07:57PM
Here are the games on tap next week:
Class 6A Playoffs -- Second Round
November 22 and 23, 2013
(Dates and times announced Monday)
North
#8 South County (9-2) at #1 Centreville (11-0) in Clifton.
#13 Stonewall Jackson (7-4) at #5 Langley (9-2) in McLean.
#7 Yorktown (9-2) at #2 Lake Braddock (11-0) in Burke.
#11 James Robinson (8-3) at #3 Westfield (9-2) in Chantilly.
South (Eastern)
#4 Grassfield (9-2) at #1 Oscar Smith (11-0) in Chesapeake.
#3 Western Branch (10-1) at #2 Ocean Lakes (11-0) in Virginia Beach.
South (Western)
#5 Forest Park (8-3) at #1 Varina (9-2) in Henrico.
#3 Colonial Forge (8-3) at #2 C.D. Hylton (10-1) in Woodbridge.
Class 6A Playoffs -- Second Round
November 22 and 23, 2013
(Dates and times announced Monday)
North
#8 South County (9-2) at #1 Centreville (11-0) in Clifton.
#13 Stonewall Jackson (7-4) at #5 Langley (9-2) in McLean.
#7 Yorktown (9-2) at #2 Lake Braddock (11-0) in Burke.
#11 James Robinson (8-3) at #3 Westfield (9-2) in Chantilly.
South (Eastern)
#4 Grassfield (9-2) at #1 Oscar Smith (11-0) in Chesapeake.
#3 Western Branch (10-1) at #2 Ocean Lakes (11-0) in Virginia Beach.
South (Western)
#5 Forest Park (8-3) at #1 Varina (9-2) in Henrico.
#3 Colonial Forge (8-3) at #2 C.D. Hylton (10-1) in Woodbridge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 16, 2013 07:58PM
Here are the games on tap next week:
Class 5A Playoffs -- Second Round
November 22 and 23, 2013
(Dates and times announced Monday)
North
#8 Falls Church (8-3) at #1 Massaponax (11-0) in Fredericksburg.
#5 North Stafford (9-2) at #4 Tuscarora (9-2) in Leesburg.
#7 Broad Run (8-3) at #2 Stone Bridge (9-2) in Ashburn.
#6 Mountain View (8-3) at #3 Briar Woods (10-1) in Ashburn.
South (Eastern)
#4 Hampton (7-4) at #1 Salem (9-2) in Virginia Beach.
#3 Maury (8-3) at #2 Green Run (8-3) in Virginia Beach.
South (Central)
#5 Hermitage (9-2) at #1 L.C. Bird (11-0) in Chesterfield.
#3 Douglas Freeman (10-1) at #2 Atlee (10-1) in Mechanicsville.
Class 5A Playoffs -- Second Round
November 22 and 23, 2013
(Dates and times announced Monday)
North
#8 Falls Church (8-3) at #1 Massaponax (11-0) in Fredericksburg.
#5 North Stafford (9-2) at #4 Tuscarora (9-2) in Leesburg.
#7 Broad Run (8-3) at #2 Stone Bridge (9-2) in Ashburn.
#6 Mountain View (8-3) at #3 Briar Woods (10-1) in Ashburn.
South (Eastern)
#4 Hampton (7-4) at #1 Salem (9-2) in Virginia Beach.
#3 Maury (8-3) at #2 Green Run (8-3) in Virginia Beach.
South (Central)
#5 Hermitage (9-2) at #1 L.C. Bird (11-0) in Chesterfield.
#3 Douglas Freeman (10-1) at #2 Atlee (10-1) in Mechanicsville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 07:59PM
Thanks ahh...Opinions for the compliment and right back at you - good analysis. The only thing I think you need to consider further is relative ability of defenses. Again I think the offenses might wash and the difference will be the defenses in this matchup. We could go to yards against and stuff but I look first at points allowed against common opponents - see my earlier post about what Chantilly and WField put up against Braddock (quite a bit) and what they did not put up against Centreville (i.e. 0).
Also want to make something clear - of course I am a CVille fan and I think they will win. But I am also a football fan. I truly hope we have those two teams meet in reasonably good weather in the state semis. 10,000 fans in Centreville stadium for a game like that standing room only - will be a great atmosphere for any northern region high school fan.
Also want to make something clear - of course I am a CVille fan and I think they will win. But I am also a football fan. I truly hope we have those two teams meet in reasonably good weather in the state semis. 10,000 fans in Centreville stadium for a game like that standing room only - will be a great atmosphere for any northern region high school fan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 08:21PM
Ashburn Glory Wrote:
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> You guys with your Fairfax superiority complex
> crack me up.
>
> Ashburn teams are all under 2000 kids. They play
> schools of similar size... and typically destroy
> Fairfax schools of similar size.
>
> Stone Bridge almost beat Lake Braddock this year,
> and didn't play well against Westfield, but have
> beat them in the past.
>
> And don't say it is just Stone Bridge, because
> Briar Woods is going to knock off SB in two weeks.
>
>
> Add 800 - 1000 kids to any of the Ashburn schools
> and it would be that team playing Centreville for
> trip to the state finals.
>
> Hell, a .500 Broad Run team beat Herndon by 30
> last year, and Broad Run crushed South Lakes in a
> full scrimmage right before season started.
>
> Poster was right about middle management types
> taking off to coach their kids.
>
> Nothing wrong with that, however.
Loudoun has great FB but:
1) How does SB do when it goes to states?
2) Who did BW beat in playoffs that had < enrollments? See VHSL figures.
3) Would BW have beaten a team such as Phoebus all those years?
4) SB has 2 losses this year to FFX County Teams.
D6 teams from the North have done well at states--just look at those 2 Westfield title teams. From what I can tell, both counties have some good FB.
-------------------------------------------------------
> You guys with your Fairfax superiority complex
> crack me up.
>
> Ashburn teams are all under 2000 kids. They play
> schools of similar size... and typically destroy
> Fairfax schools of similar size.
>
> Stone Bridge almost beat Lake Braddock this year,
> and didn't play well against Westfield, but have
> beat them in the past.
>
> And don't say it is just Stone Bridge, because
> Briar Woods is going to knock off SB in two weeks.
>
>
> Add 800 - 1000 kids to any of the Ashburn schools
> and it would be that team playing Centreville for
> trip to the state finals.
>
> Hell, a .500 Broad Run team beat Herndon by 30
> last year, and Broad Run crushed South Lakes in a
> full scrimmage right before season started.
>
> Poster was right about middle management types
> taking off to coach their kids.
>
> Nothing wrong with that, however.
Loudoun has great FB but:
1) How does SB do when it goes to states?
2) Who did BW beat in playoffs that had < enrollments? See VHSL figures.
3) Would BW have beaten a team such as Phoebus all those years?
4) SB has 2 losses this year to FFX County Teams.
D6 teams from the North have done well at states--just look at those 2 Westfield title teams. From what I can tell, both counties have some good FB.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 16, 2013 08:27PM
Well... you are having this discussion on the FAIRFAX underground... there's bound to be a little hometown bias.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 08:46PM
Reminds me of Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This SC/CVille game reminds me of sc/sb a couple
> of years ago
Agreed in that SoCo is a big underdog with an O that is quick, deceptive and blessed with a smart QB. SoCo upset SB 2 years ago with a dominating D that held Phoebus in check at UVA before losing 20-10 on the bombs to Deloatch. Ever since then, SoCO's D hasn't been very good when it counts most. Last year the D was beaten off the field in playoffs by Yorktown, 48-28. This year, it gave up 37 to TC, 34 to Chantillu, 45 to LB, and 21 to Hayfield. Anything can happen next Friday --but the D must stand tall if SoCo is to pull the upset.
-------------------------------------------------------
> This SC/CVille game reminds me of sc/sb a couple
> of years ago
Agreed in that SoCo is a big underdog with an O that is quick, deceptive and blessed with a smart QB. SoCo upset SB 2 years ago with a dominating D that held Phoebus in check at UVA before losing 20-10 on the bombs to Deloatch. Ever since then, SoCO's D hasn't been very good when it counts most. Last year the D was beaten off the field in playoffs by Yorktown, 48-28. This year, it gave up 37 to TC, 34 to Chantillu, 45 to LB, and 21 to Hayfield. Anything can happen next Friday --but the D must stand tall if SoCo is to pull the upset.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 08:51PM
Exactly (on the point of SOCO's D needing to stand up). Folks I will say it again. The reason why CVille will beat SOCO, then Stonewall (or Langley) and then even Braddock is because Centreville's defense is really good and the defenses for these other teams while competent not as good. Centreville WILL score with all those teams but will those teams put up the same numbers they are used to against lesser competition against Centreville's D? I for one do not think so. Going way back to the post about Centreville missing a few assignments against South Lakes, I realize Centreville is not going to shut these teams out. But they will win games like 35-21 against all three because the other teams are simply not going to put 40 points on CVille at CVille.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 08:55PM
In fact I hope CVille wins against SOCO something like 35 to 21 so we can get past this "oh my god" Centreville gave up a few points. In playoff ball we should not continue to expect them to shut out opponents and then freak if they don't. It is about winning and I would be perfectly happy with games with a 35 to 21 style score consistently....all about winning three more games to go to states, nothing more nothing less.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:06PM
ahhh...opinions Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan...nice commentary and quite refreshing
> to hear legit opinions rather than the vitriol
> most like to serve as insight on this site...
>
> Why don't we look at the washington post and see
> what it says about stats and head to head because,
> really at the end of the day, that's about all we
> have until LB plays Cville. but before...a little
> background.
>
> Cville runs a wing t - a 4 back offense. each
> back and series compliments the other. their
> offensive line is arguably one of the best. huge,
> gaping holes to run through. their backs are
> fast, athletic, quality through and through. Each
> player is a compliment to the other and the entire
> offense is about using fakes and deception.
> REALLY good HS rushing offense. Their pass game
> is built off their run game. they don't truly
> throw to throw. they throw because you're
> overplaying some aspect of their run game which
> gives you lots of one on one throws. Walter is
> really good at faking and finding the kid he needs
> to throw to.
>
> LB runs a zone read offense. 2 backs with the qb
> and running back each connected to the bigger
> play. they don't run the old 5 wide stuff like
> they used to...they actually run the ball and they
> block very effectively. No FB in their system,
> not a lot of faking, just hit the dive and read
> the play. They use their throw game to set up
> their run game. stop the run and the ball goes to
> the receivers...overplay the receivers and the
> ball goes to the rb or qb.
>
> seen both play and it's a toss up as to who runs
> the ball better. it's just different and it's all
> personal preferences and who you like and where
> you live as to who runs the ball or passes the
> ball better or not.
>
> as far as passing the ball, I think I'd go with LB
> if I had to drive the field. that's what
> henderson did to westfield when they needed it.
> Can Centreville do that with 2 minutes left in the
> game? running play action is not the same as
> pushing the ball downfield. Just isn't.
>
> how about some stats?
>
> common opponents as found on WashPost -
>
> chantilly - passing
>
> Walter was 3-7 for 70 yards with no TDs.
> henderson was 13-22 166 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
>
> chantilly rushing -
>
> CV 28 rushes for 307 yards - 4 players each had
> about 80 yards a piece, great balance
> LB 36 rushes for 307 yards - lee had 196 and
> henderson 111
>
> robinson - passing
>
> walter - 10-15 158 with 2 TDs
> henderson 14-25 201 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
>
> robinson rushing -
>
> CV 19 rushes for 95 yards...can't believe that's
> true but that's what they had...CV scored on some
> unusual plays - turner had a TD pass? Punt return
> by Tutt. Turner had 64 rushing yards, Walter had
> 31.
> LB 33 rushes for 200 yards - O'Brien had 57 and
> Henderson 112
>
> TC williams rushing -
>
> CV Turner went nuts - 6 for 142 2 TDs. walter no
> stats.
> LB 35 rushes for 355 yards. obrien had 118 2tds
> and henderson 120 2 tds.
>
> TC williams passing -
>
> walter - 12-14 206 and 3 TDs
> henderson - 11-26 182 and 2 TDs.
>
> so what can we say from all of this?
>
> both run their schemes effectively. both throw
> the ball effectively. CV helps their defense by
> grinding out teams. LB does no favors running 5
> plays in 30 seconds then back goes the defense...
>
> when they both play I say it will be an epic game.
> Kinda like the region championship two years ago
> between WF and CV.
>
> CV will grind out yards and keep the LB defense on
> the field. LB will score quick and on big plays.
> I guess it might come down to kicking...I'd go
> with huddleston from LB.
>
> what the hell, who knows...let's just see and
> enjoy the game.
Let's take this a bit further. Special Teams can be an important part of the games. How would you rank them?
In addition, like mentioned, 'ahhh...opinions' did not take into account defense and seems to think LB can score on any.
Finally, you are comparing numbers from a Cville team that rarely plays in the 2nd half and often not even into halftime. Their defense keeps the other team from moving so their offense often plays a short field.
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan...nice commentary and quite refreshing
> to hear legit opinions rather than the vitriol
> most like to serve as insight on this site...
>
> Why don't we look at the washington post and see
> what it says about stats and head to head because,
> really at the end of the day, that's about all we
> have until LB plays Cville. but before...a little
> background.
>
> Cville runs a wing t - a 4 back offense. each
> back and series compliments the other. their
> offensive line is arguably one of the best. huge,
> gaping holes to run through. their backs are
> fast, athletic, quality through and through. Each
> player is a compliment to the other and the entire
> offense is about using fakes and deception.
> REALLY good HS rushing offense. Their pass game
> is built off their run game. they don't truly
> throw to throw. they throw because you're
> overplaying some aspect of their run game which
> gives you lots of one on one throws. Walter is
> really good at faking and finding the kid he needs
> to throw to.
>
> LB runs a zone read offense. 2 backs with the qb
> and running back each connected to the bigger
> play. they don't run the old 5 wide stuff like
> they used to...they actually run the ball and they
> block very effectively. No FB in their system,
> not a lot of faking, just hit the dive and read
> the play. They use their throw game to set up
> their run game. stop the run and the ball goes to
> the receivers...overplay the receivers and the
> ball goes to the rb or qb.
>
> seen both play and it's a toss up as to who runs
> the ball better. it's just different and it's all
> personal preferences and who you like and where
> you live as to who runs the ball or passes the
> ball better or not.
>
> as far as passing the ball, I think I'd go with LB
> if I had to drive the field. that's what
> henderson did to westfield when they needed it.
> Can Centreville do that with 2 minutes left in the
> game? running play action is not the same as
> pushing the ball downfield. Just isn't.
>
> how about some stats?
>
> common opponents as found on WashPost -
>
> chantilly - passing
>
> Walter was 3-7 for 70 yards with no TDs.
> henderson was 13-22 166 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
>
> chantilly rushing -
>
> CV 28 rushes for 307 yards - 4 players each had
> about 80 yards a piece, great balance
> LB 36 rushes for 307 yards - lee had 196 and
> henderson 111
>
> robinson - passing
>
> walter - 10-15 158 with 2 TDs
> henderson 14-25 201 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
>
> robinson rushing -
>
> CV 19 rushes for 95 yards...can't believe that's
> true but that's what they had...CV scored on some
> unusual plays - turner had a TD pass? Punt return
> by Tutt. Turner had 64 rushing yards, Walter had
> 31.
> LB 33 rushes for 200 yards - O'Brien had 57 and
> Henderson 112
>
> TC williams rushing -
>
> CV Turner went nuts - 6 for 142 2 TDs. walter no
> stats.
> LB 35 rushes for 355 yards. obrien had 118 2tds
> and henderson 120 2 tds.
>
> TC williams passing -
>
> walter - 12-14 206 and 3 TDs
> henderson - 11-26 182 and 2 TDs.
>
> so what can we say from all of this?
>
> both run their schemes effectively. both throw
> the ball effectively. CV helps their defense by
> grinding out teams. LB does no favors running 5
> plays in 30 seconds then back goes the defense...
>
> when they both play I say it will be an epic game.
> Kinda like the region championship two years ago
> between WF and CV.
>
> CV will grind out yards and keep the LB defense on
> the field. LB will score quick and on big plays.
> I guess it might come down to kicking...I'd go
> with huddleston from LB.
>
> what the hell, who knows...let's just see and
> enjoy the game.
Let's take this a bit further. Special Teams can be an important part of the games. How would you rank them?
In addition, like mentioned, 'ahhh...opinions' did not take into account defense and seems to think LB can score on any.
Finally, you are comparing numbers from a Cville team that rarely plays in the 2nd half and often not even into halftime. Their defense keeps the other team from moving so their offense often plays a short field.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:09PM
Good question.
For special teams....
Kicking Lake Braddock has edge as that kid booms kicks into the end zone religiously.
Punting - I think about even
Returns - I cannot tell you how many times Tutt or Turner have returned punts this year, too many times to mention. I have only seen Braddock a few times so do not know how many they have but would be hard pressed to believe any better on punt returns than Centreville.
So a bit of a wash...
On the numbers game you are absolutely right - if Centreville had kept their starters in most games the numbers would have been 70-7 instead of 40s and 50s.
For special teams....
Kicking Lake Braddock has edge as that kid booms kicks into the end zone religiously.
Punting - I think about even
Returns - I cannot tell you how many times Tutt or Turner have returned punts this year, too many times to mention. I have only seen Braddock a few times so do not know how many they have but would be hard pressed to believe any better on punt returns than Centreville.
So a bit of a wash...
On the numbers game you are absolutely right - if Centreville had kept their starters in most games the numbers would have been 70-7 instead of 40s and 50s.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:15PM
And I forgot to answer your question about defense. Centreville has the best defense in the Northern Region. Simple as that. If SOCO or LB or anyone thinks they are going to put up 40-50 points on them (or maybe even above 20 or 30), I have some Ocean front property to sell you in Wyoming.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:16PM
Repeat after me football fans
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!
Plus it is nice to have an explosive offense like CVille does as well just for fun....
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!
Plus it is nice to have an explosive offense like CVille does as well just for fun....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:17PM
you da man hsfballfan, you know da truth!!!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:22PM
Well thank you MACO but not really....just years of myself learning the hard way being enamored by fancy high powered offense style teams that did not perform in crunch time due to insufficient defenses.....(and meeting up with other teams that did have sufficient defenses)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fairfaxfootball
()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:26PM
Laugh at it all you want, but I'm calling Langley vs. South County for the state semifinal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 16, 2013 09:30PM
No laughing here, everyone entitled to their opinion. However, those two could not play in the state semis as they are on same side of bracket. CVille plays SOCO and Langley plays Stonewall Jackson. Winners of those two games play then for right to go to semis. On other side you have Braddock, Ytown, Robinson, Westfield.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
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Date: November 16, 2013 09:30PM
Fairfaxfootball, sorry but you are a FOOL
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
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Date: November 16, 2013 09:34PM
Hey Fairfaxfootball, you want to throw 2-9 Lee into that finals matchup while we're making impossible predictions?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
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Date: November 16, 2013 09:38PM
How about the Vienna 100lb league team ha ha
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really??
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Date: November 16, 2013 10:03PM
Let's see if centerville's d can stop socos offense as no one has been really able to shut them down
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 16, 2013 10:12PM
If Lake Braddock can hold SOCO to 21 points I am comfortable that CVille will hold them to 21 or less. Can you say the same about SOCO's defense against Cville's offense?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really??
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Date: November 16, 2013 10:16PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> If Lake Braddock can hold SOCO to 21 points I am
> comfortable that CVille will hold them to 21 or
> less. Can you say the same about SOCO's defense
> against Cville's offense?
Pretty sure in that game sc put up like 600 yards of offense. But I am confident that this sc team will give up at least 40 Pts
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> If Lake Braddock can hold SOCO to 21 points I am
> comfortable that CVille will hold them to 21 or
> less. Can you say the same about SOCO's defense
> against Cville's offense?
Pretty sure in that game sc put up like 600 yards of offense. But I am confident that this sc team will give up at least 40 Pts
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ahh...opinions
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Date: November 16, 2013 10:40PM
I am astounded that a pretty reasonable conversation has broken out in FFXUND...
for poster Really?? As far as yards I'd say that SOCO was used to hitting big plays and having them end as touchdowns...watching the gameday video, the lee kid hawking down deuce deuce was breathtaking...they scored later but extra plays gives you more yards. Give LB credit for not letting them get the big plays they were used to. There is also a big difference between running 55 offensive plays and 95. I would say that LB's 55 were far more effective and explosive than SOCO's 95. The WashPost has LB at 600 yards and SOCO at 690. total plays LB has far less than SOCO. when you score fast and only take 4, 5, 6 plays to drive the field it can be pretty devastating but doesn't show in the box score. It will be interesting to watch SOCO against CVille. CVille gambles and sends lots of pressure. I'd like to see if SOCO can pop through the chaos up front. If they can, it could be interesting. I also think Symmes can get the ball downfield and make plays with his arm. He's really good and could be the type of player CVille has problems against.
Now, onto my new friend hsfballfan...while I'm no fan of any particular team, I do like good football and I appreciate well coached football teams. I think penalties will make a huge difference as we get closer to the finals. SOCO commits LOTS of penalties...so does LB. CVille not so much. keep those down and don't fumble and you give yourself a better chance at victory.
Finally defense...I know the old axiom that defense wins championships held favor in 1974. HS offenses have become fairly sophisticated and scoring points is easier in this era than in previous eras...rule changes, trends in offense have all make scoring points much easier.
I think it comes down to Jimmys and Joes and not necessarily Xs and Os. If you run a sound offense and defense, you can buy some victories. When your offense and defense compliment each other like Cville then you get 10-0. When your offense scores fast and allows a defense to bend and not break, then you get LB 10-0. What if LB kept CVille in front of them and kept CVille from cracking huge runs? Big IF but couple that with an offense that has gotten better each week and it gets interesting.
Looking at the box scores, it appears that both Cville and LB scores happen in early quarters. Look at SOCO and you get them all over the game. Both CVille and LB haven't played their starters past 3rd quarter. Did I hear correctly that WT Woodson left after the third quarter rather than tee it up after a lightning delay versus LB? I've also noticed that CVille has been able to find other kids to step in for the injuries they've gone through. Either way, you've got some interesting matchups.
Hey this is fun...
for poster Really?? As far as yards I'd say that SOCO was used to hitting big plays and having them end as touchdowns...watching the gameday video, the lee kid hawking down deuce deuce was breathtaking...they scored later but extra plays gives you more yards. Give LB credit for not letting them get the big plays they were used to. There is also a big difference between running 55 offensive plays and 95. I would say that LB's 55 were far more effective and explosive than SOCO's 95. The WashPost has LB at 600 yards and SOCO at 690. total plays LB has far less than SOCO. when you score fast and only take 4, 5, 6 plays to drive the field it can be pretty devastating but doesn't show in the box score. It will be interesting to watch SOCO against CVille. CVille gambles and sends lots of pressure. I'd like to see if SOCO can pop through the chaos up front. If they can, it could be interesting. I also think Symmes can get the ball downfield and make plays with his arm. He's really good and could be the type of player CVille has problems against.
Now, onto my new friend hsfballfan...while I'm no fan of any particular team, I do like good football and I appreciate well coached football teams. I think penalties will make a huge difference as we get closer to the finals. SOCO commits LOTS of penalties...so does LB. CVille not so much. keep those down and don't fumble and you give yourself a better chance at victory.
Finally defense...I know the old axiom that defense wins championships held favor in 1974. HS offenses have become fairly sophisticated and scoring points is easier in this era than in previous eras...rule changes, trends in offense have all make scoring points much easier.
I think it comes down to Jimmys and Joes and not necessarily Xs and Os. If you run a sound offense and defense, you can buy some victories. When your offense and defense compliment each other like Cville then you get 10-0. When your offense scores fast and allows a defense to bend and not break, then you get LB 10-0. What if LB kept CVille in front of them and kept CVille from cracking huge runs? Big IF but couple that with an offense that has gotten better each week and it gets interesting.
Looking at the box scores, it appears that both Cville and LB scores happen in early quarters. Look at SOCO and you get them all over the game. Both CVille and LB haven't played their starters past 3rd quarter. Did I hear correctly that WT Woodson left after the third quarter rather than tee it up after a lightning delay versus LB? I've also noticed that CVille has been able to find other kids to step in for the injuries they've gone through. Either way, you've got some interesting matchups.
Hey this is fun...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 16, 2013 10:51PM
Good stuff ahh...
You have hit on the key in your statements. Centreville does not need to break big runs even though they can and will. What is deadly about them is they will go on an 80 yard drive with plays that go 6, 10, 4, 7, 8, 4, 11, 5, 11 yards, etc. They keep pounding (think of it as 8 yards and a pile of dust instead of 3) and will in my opinion control enough of the clock that the high octane Braddock offense (or SOCO this week) will only have a certain number of chances on offense themselves. So of course both teams will score on some of those chances but they better convert on all of their chances if they want to win because I do not believe they will have nearly the same number of overall possessions that they are used to.
Make sense?
You have hit on the key in your statements. Centreville does not need to break big runs even though they can and will. What is deadly about them is they will go on an 80 yard drive with plays that go 6, 10, 4, 7, 8, 4, 11, 5, 11 yards, etc. They keep pounding (think of it as 8 yards and a pile of dust instead of 3) and will in my opinion control enough of the clock that the high octane Braddock offense (or SOCO this week) will only have a certain number of chances on offense themselves. So of course both teams will score on some of those chances but they better convert on all of their chances if they want to win because I do not believe they will have nearly the same number of overall possessions that they are used to.
Make sense?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ahh...opinions
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Date: November 16, 2013 11:06PM
hsfballfan...it does, to a point. So if Cville gets the ball and goes 75 yards and scores a TD and LB gets the ball and takes 5 plays to score a TD which is what the stats bear out, we are in for a really good football game.
What team did Cville play that threw the ball? sending 7 and locking up man knowing that the other team really can't throw through blitz is not necessarily a gamble.
My point is that SOCO could have an answer to the riddle.
The Cville defense is built on throwing pressure after pressure. Find a team that can handle that and you've figured out the riddle.
the poster who commented about how South Lakes had people open is a red herring. If you can't get the ball there, who cares if you got folks running free. QBs can't throw on their backs.
I think what we all will find with 6A South teams are matchup issues and teams willing to pump the ball downfield. There's a reason why the 757 is heavily recruited by the top 20 BCS teams.
but at the end of the day, it's about good, stimulating conversation that doesn't hinge on name calling and personal attacks. HSFBALLFAN keep up the good work.
What team did Cville play that threw the ball? sending 7 and locking up man knowing that the other team really can't throw through blitz is not necessarily a gamble.
My point is that SOCO could have an answer to the riddle.
The Cville defense is built on throwing pressure after pressure. Find a team that can handle that and you've figured out the riddle.
the poster who commented about how South Lakes had people open is a red herring. If you can't get the ball there, who cares if you got folks running free. QBs can't throw on their backs.
I think what we all will find with 6A South teams are matchup issues and teams willing to pump the ball downfield. There's a reason why the 757 is heavily recruited by the top 20 BCS teams.
but at the end of the day, it's about good, stimulating conversation that doesn't hinge on name calling and personal attacks. HSFBALLFAN keep up the good work.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 16, 2013 11:13PM
Agreed on staying classy and no name calling.
By the way I watched the tape of CVille and South Lakes on Gameday Network again. There were two plays of any note in the passing game for South Lakes. First there was one tight end that got loose because the CVille Lbackers miscommunicated who would take him. He was overthrown but still a mistake but not one of ability or whatever just an ad hoc mistake. Very correctable by Cville.
Then there was one more where the South Lakes receiver went down field about 20 yards well covered but dropped the ball.
Rest assured I am not concerned about any erstwhile issues in Cville's pass defense.
Anyway, I am done for the night, time to get off for awhile. Looking forward to SOCO....talk to everyone later.
SMILE
HSFBALLFAN OUT!!!
By the way I watched the tape of CVille and South Lakes on Gameday Network again. There were two plays of any note in the passing game for South Lakes. First there was one tight end that got loose because the CVille Lbackers miscommunicated who would take him. He was overthrown but still a mistake but not one of ability or whatever just an ad hoc mistake. Very correctable by Cville.
Then there was one more where the South Lakes receiver went down field about 20 yards well covered but dropped the ball.
Rest assured I am not concerned about any erstwhile issues in Cville's pass defense.
Anyway, I am done for the night, time to get off for awhile. Looking forward to SOCO....talk to everyone later.
SMILE
HSFBALLFAN OUT!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
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Date: November 16, 2013 11:27PM
AhhOpinions--
W-L threw the ball all over the field against Centreville. They only ran maybe 7 times the entire game. Yet, the Centreville defense stood tall. You have to remember, Tutt is an elite cover corner (Raeshawn Smith might be the only one better than him in the region) and Turner is also in the secondary. That's why, for the most part, they can get away with rushing six and just manning up across the board. Most of the time, the blitz will at least pressure the quarterback if not get to him, especially when you have Wiggins and Love, among others.
W-L threw the ball all over the field against Centreville. They only ran maybe 7 times the entire game. Yet, the Centreville defense stood tall. You have to remember, Tutt is an elite cover corner (Raeshawn Smith might be the only one better than him in the region) and Turner is also in the secondary. That's why, for the most part, they can get away with rushing six and just manning up across the board. Most of the time, the blitz will at least pressure the quarterback if not get to him, especially when you have Wiggins and Love, among others.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ahh...opinions
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Date: November 16, 2013 11:34PM
Hello Kicker...
Cville is a great defense. All respect on that. I'd also say that W&L had a great year and did great things in their district...Coach Shapiro should get a medal for turning that program into a winner. W&L is no SOCO and as we found SOCO is no LB. Cville players are outstanding, Wiggins et al are very, very good. SOCO has good players as well and so does LB. But that's the fun of football over other sports like baseball or basketball. You don't get the immediate gratification of the match up. You have to wait, ponder and post onto FFXUND until it gets settled at the game.
PEACE
Cville is a great defense. All respect on that. I'd also say that W&L had a great year and did great things in their district...Coach Shapiro should get a medal for turning that program into a winner. W&L is no SOCO and as we found SOCO is no LB. Cville players are outstanding, Wiggins et al are very, very good. SOCO has good players as well and so does LB. But that's the fun of football over other sports like baseball or basketball. You don't get the immediate gratification of the match up. You have to wait, ponder and post onto FFXUND until it gets settled at the game.
PEACE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
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Date: November 17, 2013 02:52AM
To Ashburn Glory:
Your argument about Asburn schools doesn't make sense. FFX schools must compete with students that are registered to attend (by boundary or pupil placement policy). Asburn and Loudon schools can attend anywhere due to over crowding of schools. The really good schools are all-star teams. This is why there are so many really bad teams. The Concorde district is full of the best football teams and coaching in NOVA. Stone Bridge had the opportunity to join a few years ago and refused. Playing that schedule each year is killer. On a normal season the district produces 4 playoff teams and in recent years it has been 5 of 6 schools making the playoffs. That is impressive.
Your argument about Asburn schools doesn't make sense. FFX schools must compete with students that are registered to attend (by boundary or pupil placement policy). Asburn and Loudon schools can attend anywhere due to over crowding of schools. The really good schools are all-star teams. This is why there are so many really bad teams. The Concorde district is full of the best football teams and coaching in NOVA. Stone Bridge had the opportunity to join a few years ago and refused. Playing that schedule each year is killer. On a normal season the district produces 4 playoff teams and in recent years it has been 5 of 6 schools making the playoffs. That is impressive.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ashburn Programs
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Date: November 17, 2013 07:38AM
Loudoun does not allow you to go to whatever school you want. Where did you see that?
No, Briar Woods would not have defeated Phoebus in the day - NO ONE, D6 teams included, would have.
How does Stone Bridge do in states? They do very well, getting to several finals only to have Phobus get in the way. Last year, they were the only team that hung with Lake Taylor, who mashed Phoebus last year.
Considering enrollments, the football is just better.
THAT is why Stone Bridge chose to stay and play Fairfffffax D5 schools. He wants a district championship every year, and playing Fairfax schools he is guaranteed that.
Tuscarora is a new D5 school who could also handle the D5 teams from Fairfax. Falls Church is the best D5 school in Fairfax County, and they would finish 5th or 6th if they played in a Loudoun district.
Oh, and Stafford area also would dominate Fairfax schools. Massoponex and North Stafford are just as good as Stone Bridge and Briar Woods.
By the way, didn't Caleb Henderson transfer to Braddock so he could play on a contender?
Why yes, yes he did!
No, Briar Woods would not have defeated Phoebus in the day - NO ONE, D6 teams included, would have.
How does Stone Bridge do in states? They do very well, getting to several finals only to have Phobus get in the way. Last year, they were the only team that hung with Lake Taylor, who mashed Phoebus last year.
Considering enrollments, the football is just better.
THAT is why Stone Bridge chose to stay and play Fairfffffax D5 schools. He wants a district championship every year, and playing Fairfax schools he is guaranteed that.
Tuscarora is a new D5 school who could also handle the D5 teams from Fairfax. Falls Church is the best D5 school in Fairfax County, and they would finish 5th or 6th if they played in a Loudoun district.
Oh, and Stafford area also would dominate Fairfax schools. Massoponex and North Stafford are just as good as Stone Bridge and Briar Woods.
By the way, didn't Caleb Henderson transfer to Braddock so he could play on a contender?
Why yes, yes he did!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
6JTT4
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Date: November 17, 2013 10:54AM
Why are we talking about Ashburn and D5, look at the teams that play D5... Not impressive at all. Stone Bridge lost by 25 to Westfield for God's sake. Now I'll give you they've had some fantastic teams, but this year's version would have finished 5th in the Concorde.
D5 has gotten considerablly worse this year. Falls Church may be the best D5 Fairfax team and did have a fantastic year, but can you imagine them against the D6 powers... Dominating D5 is nothing to be proud of in football, we'll talk during basketball season though, where I think D5 is better than D6.
D5 has gotten considerablly worse this year. Falls Church may be the best D5 Fairfax team and did have a fantastic year, but can you imagine them against the D6 powers... Dominating D5 is nothing to be proud of in football, we'll talk during basketball season though, where I think D5 is better than D6.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
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Date: November 17, 2013 11:24AM
Really?? Wrote:
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If Lake Braddock can hold SOCO to 21 points I
> am
> > comfortable that CVille will hold them to 21 or
> > less. Can you say the same about SOCO's
> defense
> > against Cville's offense?
>
>
> Pretty sure in that game sc put up like 600 yards
> of offense. But I am confident that this sc team
> will give up at least 40 Pts
Kind of proved the point. 600 yards and 21 points. Tells me SC defense let the other team score, in LB's case, 5 TD's and 3 FG's then have to start deep and SC cannot sustain a drive.
The more I think about it, LB's scoring strength and strong kicker, put defenses on their own 20 which is a great way to start defending a drive. Making LB punt and getting the ball around the 35 or 40 can change things. That being said, they did give up 21 to SC and 31 to Chantilly although not sure how long LB kept their starters in.
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If Lake Braddock can hold SOCO to 21 points I
> am
> > comfortable that CVille will hold them to 21 or
> > less. Can you say the same about SOCO's
> defense
> > against Cville's offense?
>
>
> Pretty sure in that game sc put up like 600 yards
> of offense. But I am confident that this sc team
> will give up at least 40 Pts
Kind of proved the point. 600 yards and 21 points. Tells me SC defense let the other team score, in LB's case, 5 TD's and 3 FG's then have to start deep and SC cannot sustain a drive.
The more I think about it, LB's scoring strength and strong kicker, put defenses on their own 20 which is a great way to start defending a drive. Making LB punt and getting the ball around the 35 or 40 can change things. That being said, they did give up 21 to SC and 31 to Chantilly although not sure how long LB kept their starters in.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
It always funny this time of
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Date: November 17, 2013 12:07PM
year it the same old SB Bullshit
The SB loses to 757 teams all the time so they must not be good, SB stays in the Liberty to win championships every year. SB should be in the Concorde is all BS...Let's start with the Liberty BS first SB moved up to D5 when their enrollment reached the level where they should no longer play D4 and they moved up immediately even though they could have delayed it. Unlike the pussies at Broad Run and then the ultimate pussies at Briar Woods who stayed in D4 as long as they could to be the big fish in a little pond and win championships when they were by far the largest D4 programs in the state. In Briar Woods case they have had D6 enrollment for years now including this year. Hell Loudoun Valley moved from D5 to D6 after only being D5 one year a few years ago when their enrollment got that high, but Briar Woods hides behind the time lag of when VHSL enforces rules. Briar Woods is full of shit every championship they have is full of shit, even winning this year would still make them full of shit because they have D6 enrollment. This week will be Briar Woods first D5 playoff last week they beat Potomac Falls who is the smallest D5 from Loudoun oh and by the way PF moved up as soon as they had to. SB did not join the Loudoun district this year because they were worried it would fall apart they will wait and see if the pussies from BW and BR stay D5 before they leave the old Liberty. Many reasons for that but I wont get into that detail here.Get over the SB belongs in the Concorde crap because its just that crap SB does not have Concorde enrollment period. But I do agree they would have sucked in the Concorde this year, but most years since 2005 they would have won the Concorde.
For an earlier post by EasternVa Football Fan - SB does tend to shit the bed at states both players and coaches alike and have lost games that they should have won on more than one occasion. But that does not mean another Ashburn team is better because they won in the same years SB lost. I already went into that above. I hear BW is very one dimensional on offense this year and can't stop the ground and pound game can anyone say North Stafford. I hear BW is also more hype than real this year. Even with hearing that this is one of SB's worst teams in a few years but 2-3 years ago when they finally played BR after years of not playing each other, BR came to SB with a far better team and still lost. The same can happen to BW. On paper and in the dumb ass media hype they seem to be the better team but many supposedly better teams have shown up at SB field the day after Thanksgiving and left thoroughly beaten. Liberty in 03, Louisa in 04, Edison and Matoaca in 05, Phoebus in 07, I could go on. Bottom line is SB usually shits the bed in the championships not at home in the regional championships and state semis.
By the way this year for the first time despite what idiots from Fairfax think about what made Ashburn teams good in the past, Loudoun kids can now choose to go to whatever school they want to go to. There are many caveats to the rule but it does exist now, go read it if your from Loudoun I won't educate you here. However it never effected movement from one high school to another the Ashburn teams are winning on their own enrollment merits and they are not all star teams heaven help the entire state if they were. The concorde teams would be a joke to play if Ashburn had only 2 high schools instead of three and soon to be five.
The SB loses to 757 teams all the time so they must not be good, SB stays in the Liberty to win championships every year. SB should be in the Concorde is all BS...Let's start with the Liberty BS first SB moved up to D5 when their enrollment reached the level where they should no longer play D4 and they moved up immediately even though they could have delayed it. Unlike the pussies at Broad Run and then the ultimate pussies at Briar Woods who stayed in D4 as long as they could to be the big fish in a little pond and win championships when they were by far the largest D4 programs in the state. In Briar Woods case they have had D6 enrollment for years now including this year. Hell Loudoun Valley moved from D5 to D6 after only being D5 one year a few years ago when their enrollment got that high, but Briar Woods hides behind the time lag of when VHSL enforces rules. Briar Woods is full of shit every championship they have is full of shit, even winning this year would still make them full of shit because they have D6 enrollment. This week will be Briar Woods first D5 playoff last week they beat Potomac Falls who is the smallest D5 from Loudoun oh and by the way PF moved up as soon as they had to. SB did not join the Loudoun district this year because they were worried it would fall apart they will wait and see if the pussies from BW and BR stay D5 before they leave the old Liberty. Many reasons for that but I wont get into that detail here.Get over the SB belongs in the Concorde crap because its just that crap SB does not have Concorde enrollment period. But I do agree they would have sucked in the Concorde this year, but most years since 2005 they would have won the Concorde.
For an earlier post by EasternVa Football Fan - SB does tend to shit the bed at states both players and coaches alike and have lost games that they should have won on more than one occasion. But that does not mean another Ashburn team is better because they won in the same years SB lost. I already went into that above. I hear BW is very one dimensional on offense this year and can't stop the ground and pound game can anyone say North Stafford. I hear BW is also more hype than real this year. Even with hearing that this is one of SB's worst teams in a few years but 2-3 years ago when they finally played BR after years of not playing each other, BR came to SB with a far better team and still lost. The same can happen to BW. On paper and in the dumb ass media hype they seem to be the better team but many supposedly better teams have shown up at SB field the day after Thanksgiving and left thoroughly beaten. Liberty in 03, Louisa in 04, Edison and Matoaca in 05, Phoebus in 07, I could go on. Bottom line is SB usually shits the bed in the championships not at home in the regional championships and state semis.
By the way this year for the first time despite what idiots from Fairfax think about what made Ashburn teams good in the past, Loudoun kids can now choose to go to whatever school they want to go to. There are many caveats to the rule but it does exist now, go read it if your from Loudoun I won't educate you here. However it never effected movement from one high school to another the Ashburn teams are winning on their own enrollment merits and they are not all star teams heaven help the entire state if they were. The concorde teams would be a joke to play if Ashburn had only 2 high schools instead of three and soon to be five.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: November 17, 2013 12:16PM
Here are the preliminary spreads for the quarterfinals. Should be a number of really fun game to watch!
(8) South County @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
*South County's defense does not have a prayer at stopping Centreville; and Centreville's defense will be by far the toughest South County has faced. This spread is conservative, only because I think Centreville will take more of a playing the clock approach with a big lead and trying to stay healthy for next week.
(13) Stonewall Jackson @ (5) Langley (-7.0)
*Langley draws a Prince William school for the second consecutive week. Once again this should be a great game and don't sleep on Langley's O-line.
(11) Robinson @ (3) Westfield (-7.0)
*Played a 1 poiint game 3 weeks ago. A Robinson win would not suprise me as I have not been impressed by Westfield at all this year, but I will take the safe pick at home.
(7) Yorktown @ (2) Lake Braddock (-35.0)
*With injuries, I believe Yorktown is the weakest team remaining in the D6 field.
D5
(8) Falls Church @ (1) Massaponax (-20.0)
*Falls Church should be incredibally proud of their season, unfortunately it will be a rough trip to Fredricksburg to end it.
(5) North Stafford (-14.0) @ (4) Tuscarora
*North Stafford will be in the region final... Calling it now.
(6) Mountain View @ (3) Briar Woods (-20.0)
(7) Broad Run @ (2) Stone Bridge (-20.0)
*Get to see a battle of Ashburn here, and winner will take on Briar Woods for Ashburn supremacy. The Stone Bridge-Briar Woods game the following week which I feel real comfortable calling will be a phenominal atmosphere.
(8) South County @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
*South County's defense does not have a prayer at stopping Centreville; and Centreville's defense will be by far the toughest South County has faced. This spread is conservative, only because I think Centreville will take more of a playing the clock approach with a big lead and trying to stay healthy for next week.
(13) Stonewall Jackson @ (5) Langley (-7.0)
*Langley draws a Prince William school for the second consecutive week. Once again this should be a great game and don't sleep on Langley's O-line.
(11) Robinson @ (3) Westfield (-7.0)
*Played a 1 poiint game 3 weeks ago. A Robinson win would not suprise me as I have not been impressed by Westfield at all this year, but I will take the safe pick at home.
(7) Yorktown @ (2) Lake Braddock (-35.0)
*With injuries, I believe Yorktown is the weakest team remaining in the D6 field.
D5
(8) Falls Church @ (1) Massaponax (-20.0)
*Falls Church should be incredibally proud of their season, unfortunately it will be a rough trip to Fredricksburg to end it.
(5) North Stafford (-14.0) @ (4) Tuscarora
*North Stafford will be in the region final... Calling it now.
(6) Mountain View @ (3) Briar Woods (-20.0)
(7) Broad Run @ (2) Stone Bridge (-20.0)
*Get to see a battle of Ashburn here, and winner will take on Briar Woods for Ashburn supremacy. The Stone Bridge-Briar Woods game the following week which I feel real comfortable calling will be a phenominal atmosphere.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really...talent
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Date: November 17, 2013 02:05PM
Got the info from their website. Also from coaches and parents. Coaches can go get kids by using the system.
School Assignment
1. Instructional Suitability: Students may be reassigned to a school other than their regular school of assignment at the discretion of the school division for the purpose of providing students a more appropriate instructional program that better meets their individual educational needs and in accordance with established policies. Special programs, such as special education, have separate procedures for the placement of students. Students reassigned due to instructional suitability are entitled to transportation services provided by the school division according to established transportation policies and procedures, unless specified otherwise.
2. Relieving Overcrowding: Students may be reassigned to a school other than their regular school of assignment at the discretion of the school division for the purpose of relieving overcrowding (also called “overflow”), if the regular school of assignment or a particular grade level at an elementary school of assignment is overcrowded. In such a situation, the student may be reassigned to another school in which suitable capacity exists, with transportation provided by the school division. Effort will be made to reassign an overflow student to the closest possible school with suitable capacity, and to return the student to his or her regular school of assignment at the start of the next school year in which the overcrowding situation no longer exists at the regular school of assignment.
Special Permission: A student may request to attend a school of his or her choosing by special permission of the school division for one academic year provided the following conditions are met:
A. Sufficient capacity exists at that school (or grade level in the case of elementary schools, or in special education programs or classes at any school level) for the student to do so without causing or exacerbating overcrowding or an overflow situation, or potentially incurring additional cost to the school system.There is a commitment of the student’s parent or legal guardian to provide a means of reliable transportation for the student to and from the school, as transportation of the student may/may not be provided by the school division;
School Assignment
1. Instructional Suitability: Students may be reassigned to a school other than their regular school of assignment at the discretion of the school division for the purpose of providing students a more appropriate instructional program that better meets their individual educational needs and in accordance with established policies. Special programs, such as special education, have separate procedures for the placement of students. Students reassigned due to instructional suitability are entitled to transportation services provided by the school division according to established transportation policies and procedures, unless specified otherwise.
2. Relieving Overcrowding: Students may be reassigned to a school other than their regular school of assignment at the discretion of the school division for the purpose of relieving overcrowding (also called “overflow”), if the regular school of assignment or a particular grade level at an elementary school of assignment is overcrowded. In such a situation, the student may be reassigned to another school in which suitable capacity exists, with transportation provided by the school division. Effort will be made to reassign an overflow student to the closest possible school with suitable capacity, and to return the student to his or her regular school of assignment at the start of the next school year in which the overcrowding situation no longer exists at the regular school of assignment.
Special Permission: A student may request to attend a school of his or her choosing by special permission of the school division for one academic year provided the following conditions are met:
A. Sufficient capacity exists at that school (or grade level in the case of elementary schools, or in special education programs or classes at any school level) for the student to do so without causing or exacerbating overcrowding or an overflow situation, or potentially incurring additional cost to the school system.There is a commitment of the student’s parent or legal guardian to provide a means of reliable transportation for the student to and from the school, as transportation of the student may/may not be provided by the school division;
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
????????????????????????????????
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Date: November 17, 2013 02:32PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Here are the preliminary spreads for the
> quarterfinals. Should be a number of really fun
> game to watch!
>
> (8) South County @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
> *South County's defense does not have a prayer at
> stopping Centreville; and Centreville's defense
> will be by far the toughest South County has
> faced. This spread is conservative, only because
> I think Centreville will take more of a playing
> the clock approach with a big lead and trying to
> stay healthy for next week.
>
> (13) Stonewall Jackson @ (5) Langley (-7.0)
> *Langley draws a Prince William school for the
> second consecutive week. Once again this should
> be a great game and don't sleep on Langley's
> O-line.
>
Who do you got if it is langley v centerville?
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> Here are the preliminary spreads for the
> quarterfinals. Should be a number of really fun
> game to watch!
>
> (8) South County @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
> *South County's defense does not have a prayer at
> stopping Centreville; and Centreville's defense
> will be by far the toughest South County has
> faced. This spread is conservative, only because
> I think Centreville will take more of a playing
> the clock approach with a big lead and trying to
> stay healthy for next week.
>
> (13) Stonewall Jackson @ (5) Langley (-7.0)
> *Langley draws a Prince William school for the
> second consecutive week. Once again this should
> be a great game and don't sleep on Langley's
> O-line.
>
Who do you got if it is langley v centerville?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
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Date: November 17, 2013 02:55PM
The Loudoun school choice thing just started this year. It doesn't have anything to do with the previous success of Ashburn schools.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dr.Lipp
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Date: November 17, 2013 04:17PM
The spread is conservative? You got to be kidding me! How much better do you think Centreville is on D than TC? How many Tarheels do they have on D? The thing that scares them is TC blitzes just like Centreville, and Soco gashed them. Braddock's D is as good as Centreville's and Soco gashed them. If Symmes doesn't throw those 2 picks in the first half it's 24-21 Soco. Soco will win. Turner is OUT,neck and knee. Too much speed for Centreville. Centreville is a pretender. Concord is down, nothing but boobs over there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr. Dr. Lipp
()
Date: November 17, 2013 04:25PM
Centreville uses the Tubby Raymond bible on wing T, Just running plays to run them. Haddock is a tard, can't adjust or call plays. If it wasn't for Neff and Mathie, He would be nothing. Just another dork coach from northern Virginia. Nice tie tool box.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Leatherneck
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Date: November 17, 2013 04:39PM
Dr. Lipp, thanks for proving wrong earlier posters that there were no dickheads left on this forum.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Douchie VonDouchington
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Date: November 17, 2013 04:54PM
this is getting old - Ashburn Program - henderson moved. legit move. righteous move. they moved. Why would the old man stay at WP? Why would anyone stay at WP? any questions, stop by their house...in burke. So they moved...alright? Do you get it? One more time - why would anyone live in that armpit of the universe? Why would anyone go to WP? Why would the family stay in that community? Why not go somewhere else? They moved. I'd be madder if they stayed.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: November 17, 2013 05:16PM
"The spread is conservative? You got to be kidding me! How much better do you think Centreville is on D than TC? How many Tarheels do they have on D? The thing that scares them is TC blitzes just like Centreville, and Soco gashed them. Braddock's D is as good as Centreville's and Soco gashed them. If Symmes doesn't throw those 2 picks in the first half it's 24-21 Soco. Soco will win. Turner is OUT,neck and knee. Too much speed for Centreville. Centreville is a pretender.Concord is down, nothing but boobs over there."
You must be speaking from the heart because you certainly don't have much knowledge when comparing TC and Centreville. If I'm not mistaken Centreville absolutely destroyed TC earlier this year, 44-16. Centreville doesn't have future Tarheels on defense, you're correct, however that would probably be because most of the starters are juniors. TC has 2 kids going D1 I believe, next year at this time Centreville will have more than that. Love, Tutt, and Turner easy, maybe more. TC's defense isn't even in the same category as Centreville's. This was an intelligent football thread until you joined!!
Please, for all of those "Concorde is just down this year" experts, seems like there are 3 teams form the district advancing to this weeks round. Pretty impressive representation if you ask me.
You must be speaking from the heart because you certainly don't have much knowledge when comparing TC and Centreville. If I'm not mistaken Centreville absolutely destroyed TC earlier this year, 44-16. Centreville doesn't have future Tarheels on defense, you're correct, however that would probably be because most of the starters are juniors. TC has 2 kids going D1 I believe, next year at this time Centreville will have more than that. Love, Tutt, and Turner easy, maybe more. TC's defense isn't even in the same category as Centreville's. This was an intelligent football thread until you joined!!
Please, for all of those "Concorde is just down this year" experts, seems like there are 3 teams form the district advancing to this weeks round. Pretty impressive representation if you ask me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: November 17, 2013 05:21PM
Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake Braddock but their defense is not as good as Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped by a wide open Bulldog just before half. Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3 first downs to Westfield.
I'm done!!
I'm done!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
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Date: November 17, 2013 06:00PM
It always funny this time of Wrote:
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> year it the same old SB Bullshit
>
> The SB loses to 757 teams all the time so they
> must not be good, SB stays in the Liberty to win
> championships every year. SB should be in the
> Concorde is all BS...Let's start with the Liberty
> BS first SB moved up to D5 when their enrollment
> reached the level where they should no longer play
> D4 and they moved up immediately even though they
> could have delayed it. Unlike the pussies at Broad
> Run and then the ultimate pussies at Briar Woods
> who stayed in D4 as long as they could to be the
> big fish in a little pond and win championships
> when they were by far the largest D4 programs in
> the state. In Briar Woods case they have had D6
> enrollment for years now including this year. Hell
> Loudoun Valley moved from D5 to D6 after only
> being D5 one year a few years ago when their
> enrollment got that high, but Briar Woods hides
> behind the time lag of when VHSL enforces rules.
> Briar Woods is full of shit every championship
> they have is full of shit, even winning this year
> would still make them full of shit because they
> have D6 enrollment. This week will be Briar Woods
> first D5 playoff last week they beat Potomac Falls
> who is the smallest D5 from Loudoun oh and by the
> way PF moved up as soon as they had to. SB did not
> join the Loudoun district this year because they
> were worried it would fall apart they will wait
> and see if the pussies from BW and BR stay D5
> before they leave the old Liberty. Many reasons
> for that but I wont get into that detail here.Get
> over the SB belongs in the Concorde crap because
> its just that crap SB does not have Concorde
> enrollment period. But I do agree they would have
> sucked in the Concorde this year, but most years
> since 2005 they would have won the Concorde.
>
> For an earlier post by EasternVa Football Fan - SB
> does tend to shit the bed at states both players
> and coaches alike and have lost games that they
> should have won on more than one occasion. But
> that does not mean another Ashburn team is better
> because they won in the same years SB lost. I
> already went into that above. I hear BW is very
> one dimensional on offense this year and can't
> stop the ground and pound game can anyone say
> North Stafford. I hear BW is also more hype than
> real this year. Even with hearing that this is one
> of SB's worst teams in a few years but 2-3 years
> ago when they finally played BR after years of not
> playing each other, BR came to SB with a far
> better team and still lost. The same can happen to
> BW. On paper and in the dumb ass media hype they
> seem to be the better team but many supposedly
> better teams have shown up at SB field the day
> after Thanksgiving and left thoroughly beaten.
> Liberty in 03, Louisa in 04, Edison and Matoaca in
> 05, Phoebus in 07, I could go on. Bottom line is
> SB usually shits the bed in the championships not
> at home in the regional championships and state
> semis.
>
> By the way this year for the first time despite
> what idiots from Fairfax think about what made
> Ashburn teams good in the past, Loudoun kids can
> now choose to go to whatever school they want to
> go to. There are many caveats to the rule but it
> does exist now, go read it if your from Loudoun I
> won't educate you here. However it never effected
> movement from one high school to another the
> Ashburn teams are winning on their own enrollment
> merits and they are not all star teams heaven help
> the entire state if they were. The concorde teams
> would be a joke to play if Ashburn had only 2 high
> schools instead of three and soon to be five.
Many good points about SB in particular. It's stupid to argue that Loudoun doesn't have good football. The top teams there can play and put players in D1, too. SB is still a mystery--won the old D5 NR almost every year. Last year's team is a good example with Allen, Burns, Mizell, etc. The game plan at UVA was so conservative that Lake Taylor got up by 20 in the first half and won, 20-14. Re BW, it has mostly beaten schools with lower enrollments in playoffs and at states. Since BW hasn't played the big tough schools in NR, there is no way to know how good those title teams really were. Maybe they really were that good--I don't know and wish we could have seen them play some old D5s. This year Bird, Hermy and Salem are around so it will be fun to see what happens.
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> year it the same old SB Bullshit
>
> The SB loses to 757 teams all the time so they
> must not be good, SB stays in the Liberty to win
> championships every year. SB should be in the
> Concorde is all BS...Let's start with the Liberty
> BS first SB moved up to D5 when their enrollment
> reached the level where they should no longer play
> D4 and they moved up immediately even though they
> could have delayed it. Unlike the pussies at Broad
> Run and then the ultimate pussies at Briar Woods
> who stayed in D4 as long as they could to be the
> big fish in a little pond and win championships
> when they were by far the largest D4 programs in
> the state. In Briar Woods case they have had D6
> enrollment for years now including this year. Hell
> Loudoun Valley moved from D5 to D6 after only
> being D5 one year a few years ago when their
> enrollment got that high, but Briar Woods hides
> behind the time lag of when VHSL enforces rules.
> Briar Woods is full of shit every championship
> they have is full of shit, even winning this year
> would still make them full of shit because they
> have D6 enrollment. This week will be Briar Woods
> first D5 playoff last week they beat Potomac Falls
> who is the smallest D5 from Loudoun oh and by the
> way PF moved up as soon as they had to. SB did not
> join the Loudoun district this year because they
> were worried it would fall apart they will wait
> and see if the pussies from BW and BR stay D5
> before they leave the old Liberty. Many reasons
> for that but I wont get into that detail here.Get
> over the SB belongs in the Concorde crap because
> its just that crap SB does not have Concorde
> enrollment period. But I do agree they would have
> sucked in the Concorde this year, but most years
> since 2005 they would have won the Concorde.
>
> For an earlier post by EasternVa Football Fan - SB
> does tend to shit the bed at states both players
> and coaches alike and have lost games that they
> should have won on more than one occasion. But
> that does not mean another Ashburn team is better
> because they won in the same years SB lost. I
> already went into that above. I hear BW is very
> one dimensional on offense this year and can't
> stop the ground and pound game can anyone say
> North Stafford. I hear BW is also more hype than
> real this year. Even with hearing that this is one
> of SB's worst teams in a few years but 2-3 years
> ago when they finally played BR after years of not
> playing each other, BR came to SB with a far
> better team and still lost. The same can happen to
> BW. On paper and in the dumb ass media hype they
> seem to be the better team but many supposedly
> better teams have shown up at SB field the day
> after Thanksgiving and left thoroughly beaten.
> Liberty in 03, Louisa in 04, Edison and Matoaca in
> 05, Phoebus in 07, I could go on. Bottom line is
> SB usually shits the bed in the championships not
> at home in the regional championships and state
> semis.
>
> By the way this year for the first time despite
> what idiots from Fairfax think about what made
> Ashburn teams good in the past, Loudoun kids can
> now choose to go to whatever school they want to
> go to. There are many caveats to the rule but it
> does exist now, go read it if your from Loudoun I
> won't educate you here. However it never effected
> movement from one high school to another the
> Ashburn teams are winning on their own enrollment
> merits and they are not all star teams heaven help
> the entire state if they were. The concorde teams
> would be a joke to play if Ashburn had only 2 high
> schools instead of three and soon to be five.
Many good points about SB in particular. It's stupid to argue that Loudoun doesn't have good football. The top teams there can play and put players in D1, too. SB is still a mystery--won the old D5 NR almost every year. Last year's team is a good example with Allen, Burns, Mizell, etc. The game plan at UVA was so conservative that Lake Taylor got up by 20 in the first half and won, 20-14. Re BW, it has mostly beaten schools with lower enrollments in playoffs and at states. Since BW hasn't played the big tough schools in NR, there is no way to know how good those title teams really were. Maybe they really were that good--I don't know and wish we could have seen them play some old D5s. This year Bird, Hermy and Salem are around so it will be fun to see what happens.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FFXfootball
()
Date: November 17, 2013 06:36PM
Wanna get back to TC Williams running through South County Tunnel. How did this happen? I am surprised a huge fight didn't break out, if an opponent tries to run through my tunnel, there is going to be a huge problem. Just shows how classless TC is. Keep that shit down in the hood, where you have to play on Saturday afternoons.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Pat riot fan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 06:57PM
Coach Wrote:
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> Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake
> Braddock but their defense is not as good as
> Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to
> Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped
> by a wide open Bulldog just before half.
> Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3
> first downs to Westfield.
>
> I'm done!!
Centreville gave up 16 points to TC Williams LB gave up zero.
Whats does that mean? it doesnt mean squat, its a new season.
All the Centreville people on here talk about how the starters only played in the first half of a lot of games...Guess what? So did LB starters.
By that measure according to all the Centreville fans....Looks like LB will be good next year too. How about that!
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> Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake
> Braddock but their defense is not as good as
> Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to
> Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped
> by a wide open Bulldog just before half.
> Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3
> first downs to Westfield.
>
> I'm done!!
Centreville gave up 16 points to TC Williams LB gave up zero.
Whats does that mean? it doesnt mean squat, its a new season.
All the Centreville people on here talk about how the starters only played in the first half of a lot of games...Guess what? So did LB starters.
By that measure according to all the Centreville fans....Looks like LB will be good next year too. How about that!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
was there
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:04PM
soco was not on the field yet when TC ran through the tunnel - they were still walking from the building to the stadium. I was standing at that end zone at the time - best part was a TC player in the middle of the pack, who looked all of about 80 pounds, tripped and fell as he started through the entrance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:18PM
Coach Wrote:
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TC has 2 kids going D1 I believe, next
> year at this time Centreville will have more than
> that. Love, Tutt, and Turner easy, maybe more.
> TC's defense isn't even in the same category as
> Centreville's.
Not to mention Chad Wiggins who already has offers from Richmond and Wake forest and Nickens-Yzer who is being recruited heavily by Mississippi State, VA Tech, UVA and Pittsburgh..
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TC has 2 kids going D1 I believe, next
> year at this time Centreville will have more than
> that. Love, Tutt, and Turner easy, maybe more.
> TC's defense isn't even in the same category as
> Centreville's.
Not to mention Chad Wiggins who already has offers from Richmond and Wake forest and Nickens-Yzer who is being recruited heavily by Mississippi State, VA Tech, UVA and Pittsburgh..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:32PM
CVille Student - do you also know who has been contacting/interest in Turner, Tutt, others? I would assume very strong interest even as juniors....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:40PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> CVille Student - do you also know who has been
> contacting/interest in Turner, Tutt, others? I
> would assume very strong interest even as
> juniors....
The most serious recruiters are:
Turner - Boston College, Penn State
Tutt - ODU, UVA
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> CVille Student - do you also know who has been
> contacting/interest in Turner, Tutt, others? I
> would assume very strong interest even as
> juniors....
The most serious recruiters are:
Turner - Boston College, Penn State
Tutt - ODU, UVA
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:42PM
thanks, bet that list for both will increase over the next year!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Studen
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:43PM
Correction on Wiggins, He has offers from Richmond, Bucknell and just got another offer from Iowa.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:48PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> thanks, bet that list for both will increase over
> the next year!!
Most Definitely!!
This site is awesome. I cant believe Im just finding out about it now. I'll try to keep you updated with Cville recruiting as I hear it.
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> thanks, bet that list for both will increase over
> the next year!!
Most Definitely!!
This site is awesome. I cant believe Im just finding out about it now. I'll try to keep you updated with Cville recruiting as I hear it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:50PM
Btw, there are currently 9 cville players being recruited by D1 schools.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 07:57PM
Recently I and others have been trying to keep this football site as real as possible (with mixed luck, trying to dismiss the comments that are just self serving or downright nasty). So can I ask how do you know that 9 are being recruited, is this an inside tip or is there some other public source/website that has this info. Of course do not give up more than you are comfortable with but we do want to ensure credibility!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:01PM
Lets just say I'm a friend of the football team. :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:02PM
Got it, thanks! Go CVILLE!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:05PM
247 sports is currently updating player profiles for 3 of the 9 players which will include their recruiting status. I will post here as soon as it's available.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
novafootball
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:09PM
Great to hear the Cville is attracting interest at the next level. Concorde has been getting more looks lately. Oakton last year had 7 kids go Division 1.
Who at Westfield (other than Thrasher-Walker) has gotten offers? Anyone on the line?
How about Robinson? Can Pinkston play in college or is he too short?
Other than Rae Smith, who is being recruited at Tilly?
Even Oakton, in a down year, has 4 seniors getting serious looks from schools.
Nice to see the Concorde is respected at the next level.
Who at Westfield (other than Thrasher-Walker) has gotten offers? Anyone on the line?
How about Robinson? Can Pinkston play in college or is he too short?
Other than Rae Smith, who is being recruited at Tilly?
Even Oakton, in a down year, has 4 seniors getting serious looks from schools.
Nice to see the Concorde is respected at the next level.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:09PM
Coach Wrote:
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> Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake
> Braddock but their defense is not as good as
> Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to
> Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped
> by a wide open Bulldog just before half.
> Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3
> first downs to Westfield.
>
> I'm done!!
Centreville gave up 16 points to TC Williams LB gave up zero.
Whats does that mean? it doesnt mean squat, its a new season.
All the Centreville people on here talk about how the starters only played in the first half of a lot of games...Guess what? So did LB starters.
By that measure according to all the Centreville fans....Looks like LB will be good next year too. How about that!
13 of those points were late 4th quarter, JV players on the field. Not sure what your point is about Lake Braddock being good next year because their starters this year didn't play a lot in the second half of games. How they'll do will depend on how many returning starters are back. Btw, Henderson will be in North Carolina, few other key seniors gone. Centreville has 16 returning starters coming back. Unlike Lake Braddock, they don't rely on just one kid to carry the offense like Henderson does for the Bruins. What do you think LB's chances would be if Henderson wasn't playing right now, slim to none would be the answer.
Please also don't think I'm a Centreville fan either, I'm a local high school coach, would rather not mention my affiliation because I don't want my players getting the wrong impression. I speak from knowledge of the game, the teams, and the players, not my heart. My original post was merely to point out the Lake Braddock's defense is not as good Centreville's. And please don't point to all those shutouts, most of them were weaker teams. Centreville is ranked #1 in 6A North because they played a tougher schedule than Lake Braddock.
One final thought, seems like most posts seem to think 6A North Final will be two of the three teams, Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County. I would not sleep on Westfield, one of the areas best defenses, and Thrasher-Walker, Gray, and Burns on off we at skill positions. Saw film on them where they were running the wildcat with Burns at QB, that's scary. Also, don't forget Westfield's only two loses were to the #1 & #2 seeds!
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> Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake
> Braddock but their defense is not as good as
> Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to
> Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped
> by a wide open Bulldog just before half.
> Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3
> first downs to Westfield.
>
> I'm done!!
Centreville gave up 16 points to TC Williams LB gave up zero.
Whats does that mean? it doesnt mean squat, its a new season.
All the Centreville people on here talk about how the starters only played in the first half of a lot of games...Guess what? So did LB starters.
By that measure according to all the Centreville fans....Looks like LB will be good next year too. How about that!
13 of those points were late 4th quarter, JV players on the field. Not sure what your point is about Lake Braddock being good next year because their starters this year didn't play a lot in the second half of games. How they'll do will depend on how many returning starters are back. Btw, Henderson will be in North Carolina, few other key seniors gone. Centreville has 16 returning starters coming back. Unlike Lake Braddock, they don't rely on just one kid to carry the offense like Henderson does for the Bruins. What do you think LB's chances would be if Henderson wasn't playing right now, slim to none would be the answer.
Please also don't think I'm a Centreville fan either, I'm a local high school coach, would rather not mention my affiliation because I don't want my players getting the wrong impression. I speak from knowledge of the game, the teams, and the players, not my heart. My original post was merely to point out the Lake Braddock's defense is not as good Centreville's. And please don't point to all those shutouts, most of them were weaker teams. Centreville is ranked #1 in 6A North because they played a tougher schedule than Lake Braddock.
One final thought, seems like most posts seem to think 6A North Final will be two of the three teams, Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County. I would not sleep on Westfield, one of the areas best defenses, and Thrasher-Walker, Gray, and Burns on off we at skill positions. Saw film on them where they were running the wildcat with Burns at QB, that's scary. Also, don't forget Westfield's only two loses were to the #1 & #2 seeds!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:09PM
By the way catching up on some previous posts from today. Of course Langley and SOCO cannot play in the state semis even if they both win, they would play in the game before the state semis. For reasons laid out in posts over last few days however I believe CVille will beat SOCO due to the quality of the CVille vs SOCO defense. On the other hand I think Langley will beat Stonewall on the strength of their overall team but do not snooze on Greg Stroman of SJackson - great athlete. If Langley were to play CVille I predict a few touchdown CVille win. Why? Because Langley's strength is its line and its patient offensive attack. That has worked well against lesser competition. However in my book CVille has the best D in the Northern Region so the Langley line is not going to spook CVille. Also do not see Langley stopping CVille offense to any great extent.
Again I still see a CVille Lake Braddock state semis. Happy to hear the opinions of others. Read posts though over the past few days so we do not need to backtrack again over some of the basic arguments one way or another....smile
One final note - TC Williams should be ashamed running through SOCO's tunnel at SOCO's field. What a disgrace, who do they think they are? Glad SOCO wiped them up in that game.
Again I still see a CVille Lake Braddock state semis. Happy to hear the opinions of others. Read posts though over the past few days so we do not need to backtrack again over some of the basic arguments one way or another....smile
One final note - TC Williams should be ashamed running through SOCO's tunnel at SOCO's field. What a disgrace, who do they think they are? Glad SOCO wiped them up in that game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:14PM
Coach Wrote:
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> Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake
> Braddock but their defense is not as good as
> Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to
> Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped
> by a wide open Bulldog just before half.
> Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3
> first downs to Westfield.
>
> I'm done!!
"Centreville gave up 16 points to TC Williams LB gave up zero.
Whats does that mean? it doesnt mean squat, its a new season.
All the Centreville people on here talk about how the starters only played in the first half of a lot of games...Guess what? So did LB starters.
By that measure according to all the Centreville fans....Looks like LB will be good next year too. How about that!"
Yes, and 13 of those points were late 4th quarter, JV players on the field. Not sure what your point is about Lake Braddock being good next year because their starters this year didn't play a lot in the second half of games. How they'll do will depend on how many returning starters are back. Btw, Henderson will be in North Carolina, few other key seniors gone. Centreville has 16 returning starters coming back. Unlike Lake Braddock, they don't rely on just one kid to carry the offense like Henderson does for the Bruins. What do you think LB's chances would be if Henderson wasn't playing right now, slim to none would be the answer.
Please also don't think I'm a Centreville fan either, I'm a local high school coach, would rather not mention my affiliation because I don't want my players getting the wrong impression. I speak from knowledge of the game, the teams, and the players, not my heart. My original post was merely to point out the Lake Braddock's defense is not as good Centreville's. And please don't point to all those shutouts, most of them were weaker teams. Centreville is ranked #1 in 6A North because they played a tougher schedule than Lake Braddock.
One final thought, seems like most posts seem to think 6A North Final will be two of the three teams, Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County. I would not sleep on Westfield, one of the areas best defenses, and Thrasher-Walker, Gray, and Burns on offense at skill positions. Saw film on them where they were running the wildcat with Burns at QB, that's scary. Also, don't forget Westfield's only two loses were to the #1 & #2 seeds!
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> Oh yes, I also forgot, no disrespect to Lake
> Braddock but their defense is not as good as
> Centreville's. Lake Braddock gave up 24 points to
> Westfield, that's with a sure TD reception dropped
> by a wide open Bulldog just before half.
> Centreville gave up zero points and a total of 3
> first downs to Westfield.
>
> I'm done!!
"Centreville gave up 16 points to TC Williams LB gave up zero.
Whats does that mean? it doesnt mean squat, its a new season.
All the Centreville people on here talk about how the starters only played in the first half of a lot of games...Guess what? So did LB starters.
By that measure according to all the Centreville fans....Looks like LB will be good next year too. How about that!"
Yes, and 13 of those points were late 4th quarter, JV players on the field. Not sure what your point is about Lake Braddock being good next year because their starters this year didn't play a lot in the second half of games. How they'll do will depend on how many returning starters are back. Btw, Henderson will be in North Carolina, few other key seniors gone. Centreville has 16 returning starters coming back. Unlike Lake Braddock, they don't rely on just one kid to carry the offense like Henderson does for the Bruins. What do you think LB's chances would be if Henderson wasn't playing right now, slim to none would be the answer.
Please also don't think I'm a Centreville fan either, I'm a local high school coach, would rather not mention my affiliation because I don't want my players getting the wrong impression. I speak from knowledge of the game, the teams, and the players, not my heart. My original post was merely to point out the Lake Braddock's defense is not as good Centreville's. And please don't point to all those shutouts, most of them were weaker teams. Centreville is ranked #1 in 6A North because they played a tougher schedule than Lake Braddock.
One final thought, seems like most posts seem to think 6A North Final will be two of the three teams, Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County. I would not sleep on Westfield, one of the areas best defenses, and Thrasher-Walker, Gray, and Burns on offense at skill positions. Saw film on them where they were running the wildcat with Burns at QB, that's scary. Also, don't forget Westfield's only two loses were to the #1 & #2 seeds!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:22PM
Interesting thought on Westfield. We will see if the change to more wildcat will make a different. No disrespect to the QB but we have not seen the same quality QB play from Westfield this year. If they can mitigate that of course they can be a challenger....heck they almost beat Braddock at Braddock during the regular season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
why ridiculous?
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:42PM
wildcatrunsupport Wrote:
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> mysteriomaco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have seen all of the important teams in the
> > Northern Region and Centreville is a big notch
> > above. Think they also have a strong chance
> > against the Beach teams. Many people are
> saying
> > Centreville is best team from the Northern
> region
> > since at least the 2007 Westfield state
> > championship team. I believe them. Personally
> > not sold on Lake Braddock, they will be exposed
> as
> > a good but not great team. Just the way it is.
>
>
> totally ridiculous. that westfield team had an NFL
> quarterback and had a massive roster that dwarfed
> Centreville. Teams like that dont sprout up out of
> the ground. That 2007 team was a byproduct of a
> tremendously well run program. I am a wildcat fan,
> and think this is the best team they have ever
> had, but please...
Not ridiculous at all. According to VHSL, The 2013 wildcats are very similar to the 2007 Bulldogs. See below:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/similar2013_list.cfm
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> mysteriomaco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have seen all of the important teams in the
> > Northern Region and Centreville is a big notch
> > above. Think they also have a strong chance
> > against the Beach teams. Many people are
> saying
> > Centreville is best team from the Northern
> region
> > since at least the 2007 Westfield state
> > championship team. I believe them. Personally
> > not sold on Lake Braddock, they will be exposed
> as
> > a good but not great team. Just the way it is.
>
>
> totally ridiculous. that westfield team had an NFL
> quarterback and had a massive roster that dwarfed
> Centreville. Teams like that dont sprout up out of
> the ground. That 2007 team was a byproduct of a
> tremendously well run program. I am a wildcat fan,
> and think this is the best team they have ever
> had, but please...
Not ridiculous at all. According to VHSL, The 2013 wildcats are very similar to the 2007 Bulldogs. See below:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/similar2013_list.cfm
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:46PM
Interesting find, thanks for the research
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:46PM
Coach,
Thanks for your insight and making the obvious argument about Centreville's defense being better than Lake Braddock. Another example is Chantilly scoring 31 on Lake Braddock and 42 on South County and being shut out by Centreville. I too have no affiliation with either of these teams and actually do hope we get some exciting games, but I am going to enjoy seeing some of these delusional Patriot District folks when they see Centreville on the opposite sideline for the first time.
As mentioned above, maybe I caught them at two bad games, and I know they played Braddock down to the wire, but I really do not think they have enough of a passing threat to knock off Lake Braddock and if they somehow did, I really do not think they can be competitive against Centreville despite the first game being played in a down pour throughout. I feel real confident in saying Centreville will play Lake Braddock in the state semi. That being said, assuming my predictions play out this Friday, I do think Langley would give Centreville one of their closest games on the year, and Westfield-Braddock would be a pretty close game too.
Thanks for your insight and making the obvious argument about Centreville's defense being better than Lake Braddock. Another example is Chantilly scoring 31 on Lake Braddock and 42 on South County and being shut out by Centreville. I too have no affiliation with either of these teams and actually do hope we get some exciting games, but I am going to enjoy seeing some of these delusional Patriot District folks when they see Centreville on the opposite sideline for the first time.
As mentioned above, maybe I caught them at two bad games, and I know they played Braddock down to the wire, but I really do not think they have enough of a passing threat to knock off Lake Braddock and if they somehow did, I really do not think they can be competitive against Centreville despite the first game being played in a down pour throughout. I feel real confident in saying Centreville will play Lake Braddock in the state semi. That being said, assuming my predictions play out this Friday, I do think Langley would give Centreville one of their closest games on the year, and Westfield-Braddock would be a pretty close game too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just saying
()
Date: November 17, 2013 08:59PM
> (8) South County @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
> This spread is conservative, only because
> I think Centreville will take more of a playing
> the clock approach with a big lead and trying to
> stay healthy for next week.
CVille will most likley end up with at least a couple of banged up guys after this week because soco has a physical defense
> This spread is conservative, only because
> I think Centreville will take more of a playing
> the clock approach with a big lead and trying to
> stay healthy for next week.
CVille will most likley end up with at least a couple of banged up guys after this week because soco has a physical defense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:02PM
Do explain, I have seen SOCO a few times this year and I would not characterize SOCO a physical defense. In fact, have to keep it real - there defense is not very good. Giving up 30+ or whatever points a game. Their offense is very good but defense is fair to middling at best.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:04PM
Watch their junior highlights and tell me these aren't D1 players. They can play at any D1 school in the country! BTW, all three players run 4.45 40's...
AJ Turner
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1719973/
Charles Tutt
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1719926/
Xavier Nickens-Yzer
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1719933/
AJ Turner
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1719973/
Charles Tutt
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1719926/
Xavier Nickens-Yzer
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1719933/
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:09PM
Actually to keep my own stats real, just looked on MaxPreps, looks like they are giving up about 24 points a game....not exactly bruising
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fan1
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:09PM
Will AJ Turner play next week against Soco. I heard he suffered a neck sprain against South Lakes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just saying
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:10PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Do explain, I have seen SOCO a few times this year
> and I would not characterize SOCO a physical
> defense. In fact, have to keep it real - there
> defense is not very good. Giving up 30+ or
> whatever points a game. Their offense is very
> good but defense is fair to middling at best.
When they played LB they injured Hendo and their midget
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> Do explain, I have seen SOCO a few times this year
> and I would not characterize SOCO a physical
> defense. In fact, have to keep it real - there
> defense is not very good. Giving up 30+ or
> whatever points a game. Their offense is very
> good but defense is fair to middling at best.
When they played LB they injured Hendo and their midget
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:11PM
No one knows so no basis to speculate. I was at the game when he was hurt. Do not think it is a long term thing but again I have no inside info. Honestly do not think SOCO will beat CVille even if he does take a week off. CVille extremely deep....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
just wondering
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:13PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> No one knows so no basis to speculate. I was at
> the game when he was hurt. Do not think it is a
> long term thing but again I have no inside info.
> Honestly do not think SOCO will beat CVille even
> if he does take a week off. CVille extremely
> deep....
Didnt someone else get injured?
-------------------------------------------------------
> No one knows so no basis to speculate. I was at
> the game when he was hurt. Do not think it is a
> long term thing but again I have no inside info.
> Honestly do not think SOCO will beat CVille even
> if he does take a week off. CVille extremely
> deep....
Didnt someone else get injured?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:14PM
Nickens Yzer came out, not sure of his status
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
also
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:15PM
also when sc played lb they didnt have #2(Gerald) who started both ways
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:17PM
SOCO fans I wish you the best and hope you give CVille a good game. But here is the rub - SOCO offense works well because good team speed. But CVille has excellent team speed too and not just Turner, etc. SOCO cannot expect to put up the same offensive numbers it has put up on some teams. But can you expect CVille to put up less points than 24 a game? Likely not.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:19PM
fan1 Wrote:
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> Will AJ Turner play next week against Soco. I
> heard he suffered a neck sprain against South
> Lakes.
Yes he is okay. SoCo better be ready for him.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Will AJ Turner play next week against Soco. I
> heard he suffered a neck sprain against South
> Lakes.
Yes he is okay. SoCo better be ready for him.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:22PM
That is great news about Turner. I am going to assume your "friend of the CVille program" status gives you insight into latest medical news too. SMILE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:22PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Nickens Yzer came out, not sure of his status
Yes he did come out and was okay to return during the game. The coaches decided to keep him out just to be safe. So he'll also be playing next week.
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> Nickens Yzer came out, not sure of his status
Yes he did come out and was okay to return during the game. The coaches decided to keep him out just to be safe. So he'll also be playing next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:27PM
So just to confirm both Taylor and Nickens Yzer ok to play next week according to your info? I hope you have it right!
If so, sorry SOCO it is not even going to be very close.
If so, sorry SOCO it is not even going to be very close.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:27PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> That is great news about Turner. I am going to
> assume your "friend of the CVille program" status
> gives you insight into latest medical news too.
> SMILE
I'm very good friends with several of the players and I'm pretty much present during all conversations regarding the team. :)
-------------------------------------------------------
> That is great news about Turner. I am going to
> assume your "friend of the CVille program" status
> gives you insight into latest medical news too.
> SMILE
I'm very good friends with several of the players and I'm pretty much present during all conversations regarding the team. :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:29PM
Awesome you are my new best friend (virtually of course!)
SMILE
SMILE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:30PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So just to confirm both Taylor and Nickens Yzer ok
> to play next week according to your info? I hope
> you have it right!
>
> If so, sorry SOCO it is not even going to be very
> close.
You can take it to the bank! lol
-------------------------------------------------------
> So just to confirm both Taylor and Nickens Yzer ok
> to play next week according to your info? I hope
> you have it right!
>
> If so, sorry SOCO it is not even going to be very
> close.
You can take it to the bank! lol
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:31PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Awesome you are my new best friend (virtually of
> course!)
>
> SMILE
lol!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Awesome you are my new best friend (virtually of
> course!)
>
> SMILE
lol!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:32PM
So I open it back up to SOCO fans. Interested in hearing a reasoned argument why SOCO can win this game. Not putting your team down at all, you have had a nice season.....but really how can they come in given the relative strengths of the teams and expect an upset?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
justfunin
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:36PM
Stop the presses, we do not even need to play the rest of the games.
Centreville is the greatest team to ever play. No one will come close to them.
Call the NFL....Maybe they can play in the Superbowl, because we all know in the Northern region, no team can touch them.
Ask Westfield, the regular season means everything. They were 20-0
No one ever plays well in the playoffs.
Teams will not make any adjustments for the playoffs.
All teams will play just like they did in the regular season
There is never any upsets in the playoffs
So we should give the crown to Centreville and everyone else go home.
This is just for fun, let the kids play
None of you are coaches or players on these teams and have no idea what these teams can and can not do.
Centreville is the greatest team to ever play. No one will come close to them.
Call the NFL....Maybe they can play in the Superbowl, because we all know in the Northern region, no team can touch them.
Ask Westfield, the regular season means everything. They were 20-0
No one ever plays well in the playoffs.
Teams will not make any adjustments for the playoffs.
All teams will play just like they did in the regular season
There is never any upsets in the playoffs
So we should give the crown to Centreville and everyone else go home.
This is just for fun, let the kids play
None of you are coaches or players on these teams and have no idea what these teams can and can not do.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:40PM
Thanks for your perspective. Not at all, I want all the teams to play well and am a Big Northern Region fan. I just think the CVille team deserves some serious respect because I have now heard many pundits say it is the best team out of the North since the 2007 Westfield team. For other teams to claim they will win I am just interested in hearing plausible theories of such. I and others have given our theories, give us yours for other teams....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:45PM
And by the way in addition to seeing CVille a lot I have made the effort to see multiple other contending teams on a number of occasions. Have a reasonable sense of strengths and weaknesses of all teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TC
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:46PM
I think that TC is just a classless program like most of the patriot district are
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jaxk
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:52PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> So I open it back up to SOCO fans. Interested in
> hearing a reasoned argument why SOCO can win this
> game. Not putting your team down at all, you have
> had a nice season.....but really how can they come
> in given the relative strengths of the teams and
> expect an upset?
I think it could be a "close" shoot out between the teams but cvilles defense is miles better than socos defense
-------------------------------------------------------
> So I open it back up to SOCO fans. Interested in
> hearing a reasoned argument why SOCO can win this
> game. Not putting your team down at all, you have
> had a nice season.....but really how can they come
> in given the relative strengths of the teams and
> expect an upset?
I think it could be a "close" shoot out between the teams but cvilles defense is miles better than socos defense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:55PM
Jaxk - but that is why it will NOT be a shootout, because CVille defense is much better. SOCO cannot expect to score the types of points it usually does...I think they might get even 21 but what will stop CVille from getting 42 or more....?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat Fan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 09:58PM
Centreville would have beaten last year's Westfield team by 3 touchdowns easy... It was a really weak year in the district, with the other competitors really young.
Two years ago Centreville was the team to beat that undefeated Westfield team, avenging an OT loss in the regular season and went to the state championship. I feel pretty confident saying Centreville this year would beat both those teams, but both of those teams were really strong.
Two years ago Centreville was the team to beat that undefeated Westfield team, avenging an OT loss in the regular season and went to the state championship. I feel pretty confident saying Centreville this year would beat both those teams, but both of those teams were really strong.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FYI..
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:02PM
Pretty sure that sc scored a td three times on a 4th down
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:03PM
meaning....?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:20PM
I have played against cville this year and trust me THEY ARE THE REAL DEAL
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WSHS?
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:23PM
any input on the west springfield Spartans season how did they do and where are they going
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fan1
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:28PM
@ Cville Student is Tyler Love going to play? He's been out for a while now
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:28PM
Saw West Springfield against Centreville which of course CVille won in easy fashion. The story with WS, Woodson, Herndon, etc is they tend to have a few good athletes but not nearly the same number of athletes or depth as the big programs. Do not see that changing anytime soon.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
saxon
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:31PM
Langley has the Oline and balance to compete with centreville, thoughts? they are also fresh from playing in an easy distrct
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:35PM
Might be ok that they are fresh and I do agree they have a great Oline but Centreville has a decided edge on high value athletes. Langley I think would actually do better against a Westfield or something like that. At home Centreville will be happy to grind against Langley but its athletes will also be good for a few scores so I see Centreville still winning by about three touchdowns against Langley, maybe 38-17. But again props to Langley, they have had a nice season and they are generally balanced. Again though CVille just has a very good team this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:43PM
fan1 Wrote:
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> @ Cville Student is Tyler Love going to play?
> He's been out for a while now
Unfortunately he's done for the season. Out 3-4 more weeks. If he does come back it'll be just in time for state finals if we make it there.
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> @ Cville Student is Tyler Love going to play?
> He's been out for a while now
Unfortunately he's done for the season. Out 3-4 more weeks. If he does come back it'll be just in time for state finals if we make it there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:44PM
"Interesting thought on Westfield. We will see if the change to more wildcat will make a different. No disrespect to the QB but we have not seen the same quality QB play from Westfield this year. If they can mitigate that of course they can be a challenger....heck they almost beat Braddock at Braddock during the regular season."
hsballfan,
Cannot agree with you more in regard to Westfield's QB, though I do believe he's had an injury to his throwing shoulder pretty much from the start of the season. Saw game film form their victory this past Friday night against Hayfield, definitely had more zip on the ball than what I had seen previously. It appeared Westfield finally decided to get the ball to Devon Burns, he had a great game, kids as talented as any skill player in the area, incredible speed. The ability for Westfield to successfully air the ball out will definitely keep opposing defenses from loading the box to try and stop their potent rushing attack.
As I stated in a previous post the Lake Braddock game should have ended 24-21, Westfield appeared to have intercepted Henderson with a little under two minutes to go. Refs ruled it an incompletion but film and photos I've seen show otherwise. The very next play is when Henderson threw the game winning TD. Heck, Westfield was driving late but their QB was picked at about Lake Braddock's 15 yard line with about twenty some seconds to go. If those two teams meet again they game could certainly go either way, home field will be a nice advantage to have in that one, Westfield's student section doesn't appear to travel very well. Have seen the folks on Gameday Magazine give them some grief for that...
hsballfan,
Cannot agree with you more in regard to Westfield's QB, though I do believe he's had an injury to his throwing shoulder pretty much from the start of the season. Saw game film form their victory this past Friday night against Hayfield, definitely had more zip on the ball than what I had seen previously. It appeared Westfield finally decided to get the ball to Devon Burns, he had a great game, kids as talented as any skill player in the area, incredible speed. The ability for Westfield to successfully air the ball out will definitely keep opposing defenses from loading the box to try and stop their potent rushing attack.
As I stated in a previous post the Lake Braddock game should have ended 24-21, Westfield appeared to have intercepted Henderson with a little under two minutes to go. Refs ruled it an incompletion but film and photos I've seen show otherwise. The very next play is when Henderson threw the game winning TD. Heck, Westfield was driving late but their QB was picked at about Lake Braddock's 15 yard line with about twenty some seconds to go. If those two teams meet again they game could certainly go either way, home field will be a nice advantage to have in that one, Westfield's student section doesn't appear to travel very well. Have seen the folks on Gameday Magazine give them some grief for that...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:45PM
That is too bad, very good football player and wrestler (third in states as a Sophomore). Wish him a clean recovery for future sporting activities!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:51PM
Agreed, will not sleep on Westfield.
Interested that there are not many if any Braddock fans chiming in.
Let me throw something out there for bait (smile). Here is my real opinion on Henderson - great arm, great athlete but I think he is too enamored with his arm. The two games I saw him this year I saw a number of throws which seemed more like "look at me" rather than throws needed to win a ball game. Also saw the same last year. So although Braddock of course has been playing some good ball I have questions about their defense against really good competition and I am not totally sold on Henderson as a state championship QB (different than a thrower). Plus in a game against CVille they will put someone like Chad Wiggins the LB spying on him so he cannot expect to scramble nearly as much.
Where am I wrong Lake Braddock fans?
Interested that there are not many if any Braddock fans chiming in.
Let me throw something out there for bait (smile). Here is my real opinion on Henderson - great arm, great athlete but I think he is too enamored with his arm. The two games I saw him this year I saw a number of throws which seemed more like "look at me" rather than throws needed to win a ball game. Also saw the same last year. So although Braddock of course has been playing some good ball I have questions about their defense against really good competition and I am not totally sold on Henderson as a state championship QB (different than a thrower). Plus in a game against CVille they will put someone like Chad Wiggins the LB spying on him so he cannot expect to scramble nearly as much.
Where am I wrong Lake Braddock fans?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 17, 2013 11:11PM
"Coach,
Thanks for your insight and making the obvious argument about Centreville's defense being better than Lake Braddock. Another example is Chantilly scoring 31 on Lake Braddock and 42 on South County and being shut out by Centreville. I too have no affiliation with either of these teams and actually do hope we get some exciting games, but I am going to enjoy seeing some of these delusional Patriot District folks when they see Centreville on the opposite sideline for the first time.
As mentioned above, maybe I caught them at two bad games, and I know they played Braddock down to the wire, but I really do not think they have enough of a passing threat to knock off Lake Braddock and if they somehow did, I really do not think they can be competitive against Centreville despite the first game being played in a down pour throughout. I feel real confident in saying Centreville will play Lake Braddock in the state semi. That being said, assuming my predictions play out this Friday, I do think Langley would give Centreville one of their closest games on the year, and Westfield-Braddock would be a pretty close game too."
Steve k2,
I share in your thoughts as to what t will be like to see some of the Patriot district fans see what the boys for Centreville have. I've watched them on several occasions and they just don't have any glaring weaknesses.
In regard to Westfield, my personal opinion is they could be a sleeper. As I stated on a few earlier posts, the Lake Braddock game should have ended 24-21 Westfield. They intercepted Henderson with less than two minutes to go, refs ruled it an incompletion, game film and still photos show it was definitely a pick. Very next play Henderson threw the game winning TD. Westfield was driving late but their QB was intercepted around the 15 yard line with about 20 seconds to go.
The Centreville game Westfield had 2 OL's out and 6 defensive starters as well. If I'm not mistaken their QB was back in his first game from suffering a concussion, he was certainly anything but sharp. The downpour in that game really was a detriment to both teams, overall health appeared to be the underlying issue. Westfield certainly missed their 2 DT's and both MLB's that were on the sideline, they definitely would have helped slow Centreville's inside running game which is where most of their yards came from. The FB for Centreville finished with 100 yards or very close to it.
I think Westfeild-Centreville could definitely transpire but the Bulldogs would have to play error free ball to get there. Lake Braddock is definitely a well balanced team, will be tough for Westfield to beat. But of course this is all speculation because Robinson is going to be a very tough game for Westfield, Joe Wilson appears to be healthy which is not good news for any opposing defense!
Heck, anything can happen, it's the postseason, and the last two years have proven it's anybody's ball game. Like they say, everyone starts fresh, regular season doesn't mean anything, should be some exciting games to see!
Thanks for your insight and making the obvious argument about Centreville's defense being better than Lake Braddock. Another example is Chantilly scoring 31 on Lake Braddock and 42 on South County and being shut out by Centreville. I too have no affiliation with either of these teams and actually do hope we get some exciting games, but I am going to enjoy seeing some of these delusional Patriot District folks when they see Centreville on the opposite sideline for the first time.
As mentioned above, maybe I caught them at two bad games, and I know they played Braddock down to the wire, but I really do not think they have enough of a passing threat to knock off Lake Braddock and if they somehow did, I really do not think they can be competitive against Centreville despite the first game being played in a down pour throughout. I feel real confident in saying Centreville will play Lake Braddock in the state semi. That being said, assuming my predictions play out this Friday, I do think Langley would give Centreville one of their closest games on the year, and Westfield-Braddock would be a pretty close game too."
Steve k2,
I share in your thoughts as to what t will be like to see some of the Patriot district fans see what the boys for Centreville have. I've watched them on several occasions and they just don't have any glaring weaknesses.
In regard to Westfield, my personal opinion is they could be a sleeper. As I stated on a few earlier posts, the Lake Braddock game should have ended 24-21 Westfield. They intercepted Henderson with less than two minutes to go, refs ruled it an incompletion, game film and still photos show it was definitely a pick. Very next play Henderson threw the game winning TD. Westfield was driving late but their QB was intercepted around the 15 yard line with about 20 seconds to go.
The Centreville game Westfield had 2 OL's out and 6 defensive starters as well. If I'm not mistaken their QB was back in his first game from suffering a concussion, he was certainly anything but sharp. The downpour in that game really was a detriment to both teams, overall health appeared to be the underlying issue. Westfield certainly missed their 2 DT's and both MLB's that were on the sideline, they definitely would have helped slow Centreville's inside running game which is where most of their yards came from. The FB for Centreville finished with 100 yards or very close to it.
I think Westfeild-Centreville could definitely transpire but the Bulldogs would have to play error free ball to get there. Lake Braddock is definitely a well balanced team, will be tough for Westfield to beat. But of course this is all speculation because Robinson is going to be a very tough game for Westfield, Joe Wilson appears to be healthy which is not good news for any opposing defense!
Heck, anything can happen, it's the postseason, and the last two years have proven it's anybody's ball game. Like they say, everyone starts fresh, regular season doesn't mean anything, should be some exciting games to see!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 11:18PM
I try to keep it real on this site and provide analysis across the board with various teams. But of course also as a CVille fan I would be happy to see Westfield again. Beating them twice in a year would be an early Christmas present for any CVille fan!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
rock n jock
()
Date: November 17, 2013 11:28PM
Braddock will lose to Yorktown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 17, 2013 11:39PM
Well I am not sure about that Rock but we will see.
HSFBALLFAN out for the night. Keep it classy San Diego....
HSFBALLFAN out for the night. Keep it classy San Diego....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Aye
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:04AM
S/o to sc and Yorktown on their great seasons
Time to get our priorities in order
Posted by:
Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:21AM
Time to get our priorities in order
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131115/OPINION/131119434/1065/time-to-get-our-priorities-in-order&template=fairfaxTimes
[On Nov. 3], I attended the performance day for the Fairfax County Youth league cheerleaders. I was excited to see my daughters and the rest of their team display their talents. It was evident that the young ladies from throughout Fairfax County worked hard; they deserved the undivided attention of the crowd in attendance.
As the afternoon progressed, I became extremely discouraged by the behavior that I witnessed from some of the adults in attendance. The public address announcer began to announce the scores of the NFL games that were in progress. In a moment of unfortunate timing, the crowd reacted to an announced score with a stream of “boos” as one of the cheerleading squads was taking the floor for their performance. The young cheerleaders did not hear what the PA announcer said, as they were focused on their team and their performance. However, those who were paying attention to the girls as they prepared for their performance could tell they definitely heard the “boos” as they entered the gym. After that team finished their performance I sought out the director of the youth league cheerleading commission. I explained what happened and what I had witnessed. I suggested she may want to stop the announcements of the NFL scores. I followed up by stating [that] the majority of the adults who were interested in the scores were most likely tracking the results on their phone or tablet devices. In full disclosure, the PA announcer did apologize for the unfortunate timing of the announcement. The regular updates on scores continued throughout the rest of the show.
This moment was a glaring example of how self-absorbed and distracted adults have become. This day should have been spent focusing on and praising these young girls who have spent long hours practicing their detailed and difficult routines. Instead, a few of these girls were left wondering why they received a chorus of “boos,” rather than cheers for their efforts. It disturbed me to know that the family and friends who showed up to the event had more interest in the results of a contest which had no direct impact on their life and family. I mentioned earlier that the PA announcer apologized for the misunderstanding. He prefaced his apology by saying the doors were opened by the event staff too early and the girls entered the gym too early and should not have entered during his score update. I was shocked that in effect the girls were blamed for interrupting the football update. Our kids need to be given more of our attention on a daily basis. That day was the equivalent to a championship game for many of those girls, I feel terrible that a large number of them weren’t given the attention and support that they deserved.
Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131115/OPINION/131119434/1065/time-to-get-our-priorities-in-order&template=fairfaxTimes
[On Nov. 3], I attended the performance day for the Fairfax County Youth league cheerleaders. I was excited to see my daughters and the rest of their team display their talents. It was evident that the young ladies from throughout Fairfax County worked hard; they deserved the undivided attention of the crowd in attendance.
As the afternoon progressed, I became extremely discouraged by the behavior that I witnessed from some of the adults in attendance. The public address announcer began to announce the scores of the NFL games that were in progress. In a moment of unfortunate timing, the crowd reacted to an announced score with a stream of “boos” as one of the cheerleading squads was taking the floor for their performance. The young cheerleaders did not hear what the PA announcer said, as they were focused on their team and their performance. However, those who were paying attention to the girls as they prepared for their performance could tell they definitely heard the “boos” as they entered the gym. After that team finished their performance I sought out the director of the youth league cheerleading commission. I explained what happened and what I had witnessed. I suggested she may want to stop the announcements of the NFL scores. I followed up by stating [that] the majority of the adults who were interested in the scores were most likely tracking the results on their phone or tablet devices. In full disclosure, the PA announcer did apologize for the unfortunate timing of the announcement. The regular updates on scores continued throughout the rest of the show.
This moment was a glaring example of how self-absorbed and distracted adults have become. This day should have been spent focusing on and praising these young girls who have spent long hours practicing their detailed and difficult routines. Instead, a few of these girls were left wondering why they received a chorus of “boos,” rather than cheers for their efforts. It disturbed me to know that the family and friends who showed up to the event had more interest in the results of a contest which had no direct impact on their life and family. I mentioned earlier that the PA announcer apologized for the misunderstanding. He prefaced his apology by saying the doors were opened by the event staff too early and the girls entered the gym too early and should not have entered during his score update. I was shocked that in effect the girls were blamed for interrupting the football update. Our kids need to be given more of our attention on a daily basis. That day was the equivalent to a championship game for many of those girls, I feel terrible that a large number of them weren’t given the attention and support that they deserved.
Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax
Re: Time to get our priorities in order
Posted by:
What??
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:24AM
Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Time to get our priorities in order
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131115/OPINI
> ON/131119434/1065/time-to-get-our-priorities-in-or
> der&template=fairfaxTimes
>
> [On Nov. 3], I attended the performance day for
> the Fairfax County Youth league cheerleaders. I
> was excited to see my daughters and the rest of
> their team display their talents. It was evident
> that the young ladies from throughout Fairfax
> County worked hard; they deserved the undivided
> attention of the crowd in attendance.
>
> As the afternoon progressed, I became extremely
> discouraged by the behavior that I witnessed from
> some of the adults in attendance. The public
> address announcer began to announce the scores of
> the NFL games that were in progress. In a moment
> of unfortunate timing, the crowd reacted to an
> announced score with a stream of “boos” as one
> of the cheerleading squads was taking the floor
> for their performance. The young cheerleaders did
> not hear what the PA announcer said, as they were
> focused on their team and their performance.
> However, those who were paying attention to the
> girls as they prepared for their performance could
> tell they definitely heard the “boos” as they
> entered the gym. After that team finished their
> performance I sought out the director of the youth
> league cheerleading commission. I explained what
> happened and what I had witnessed. I suggested she
> may want to stop the announcements of the NFL
> scores. I followed up by stating [that] the
> majority of the adults who were interested in the
> scores were most likely tracking the results on
> their phone or tablet devices. In full disclosure,
> the PA announcer did apologize for the unfortunate
> timing of the announcement. The regular updates on
> scores continued throughout the rest of the show.
>
> This moment was a glaring example of how
> self-absorbed and distracted adults have become.
> This day should have been spent focusing on and
> praising these young girls who have spent long
> hours practicing their detailed and difficult
> routines. Instead, a few of these girls were left
> wondering why they received a chorus of
> “boos,” rather than cheers for their efforts.
> It disturbed me to know that the family and
> friends who showed up to the event had more
> interest in the results of a contest which had no
> direct impact on their life and family. I
> mentioned earlier that the PA announcer apologized
> for the misunderstanding. He prefaced his apology
> by saying the doors were opened by the event staff
> too early and the girls entered the gym too early
> and should not have entered during his score
> update. I was shocked that in effect the girls
> were blamed for interrupting the football update.
> Our kids need to be given more of our attention on
> a daily basis. That day was the equivalent to a
> championship game for many of those girls, I feel
> terrible that a large number of them weren’t
> given the attention and support that they
> deserved.
>
> Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax
Does this have anything to do with high school football though?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Time to get our priorities in order
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131115/OPINI
> ON/131119434/1065/time-to-get-our-priorities-in-or
> der&template=fairfaxTimes
>
> [On Nov. 3], I attended the performance day for
> the Fairfax County Youth league cheerleaders. I
> was excited to see my daughters and the rest of
> their team display their talents. It was evident
> that the young ladies from throughout Fairfax
> County worked hard; they deserved the undivided
> attention of the crowd in attendance.
>
> As the afternoon progressed, I became extremely
> discouraged by the behavior that I witnessed from
> some of the adults in attendance. The public
> address announcer began to announce the scores of
> the NFL games that were in progress. In a moment
> of unfortunate timing, the crowd reacted to an
> announced score with a stream of “boos” as one
> of the cheerleading squads was taking the floor
> for their performance. The young cheerleaders did
> not hear what the PA announcer said, as they were
> focused on their team and their performance.
> However, those who were paying attention to the
> girls as they prepared for their performance could
> tell they definitely heard the “boos” as they
> entered the gym. After that team finished their
> performance I sought out the director of the youth
> league cheerleading commission. I explained what
> happened and what I had witnessed. I suggested she
> may want to stop the announcements of the NFL
> scores. I followed up by stating [that] the
> majority of the adults who were interested in the
> scores were most likely tracking the results on
> their phone or tablet devices. In full disclosure,
> the PA announcer did apologize for the unfortunate
> timing of the announcement. The regular updates on
> scores continued throughout the rest of the show.
>
> This moment was a glaring example of how
> self-absorbed and distracted adults have become.
> This day should have been spent focusing on and
> praising these young girls who have spent long
> hours practicing their detailed and difficult
> routines. Instead, a few of these girls were left
> wondering why they received a chorus of
> “boos,” rather than cheers for their efforts.
> It disturbed me to know that the family and
> friends who showed up to the event had more
> interest in the results of a contest which had no
> direct impact on their life and family. I
> mentioned earlier that the PA announcer apologized
> for the misunderstanding. He prefaced his apology
> by saying the doors were opened by the event staff
> too early and the girls entered the gym too early
> and should not have entered during his score
> update. I was shocked that in effect the girls
> were blamed for interrupting the football update.
> Our kids need to be given more of our attention on
> a daily basis. That day was the equivalent to a
> championship game for many of those girls, I feel
> terrible that a large number of them weren’t
> given the attention and support that they
> deserved.
>
> Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax
Does this have anything to do with high school football though?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Darrin Lancaster, Fairfax
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:53AM
"Does this have anything to do with high school football though?"
Of course it does. Everyone knows that more people go to games for band and cheerleaders, don't they?
Of course it does. Everyone knows that more people go to games for band and cheerleaders, don't they?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Special teams
()
Date: November 18, 2013 10:07AM
Who do you guys think has the better special teams: Soco or centreville?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 10:47AM
Centreville. Kicking and punting is a wash but on punt and kickoff runbacks CVille is phenomenal.
Special teams though will not win or lose this game. SOCO's lack of defense and Cville's superior defense WILL win and lose this game.
Special teams though will not win or lose this game. SOCO's lack of defense and Cville's superior defense WILL win and lose this game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 10:54AM
Remember SOCO fans that Lake Braddock beat SOCO 45-21 and I am predicting Centreville would beat Lake Braddock by a score of around 35-24 in the state semis if they meet up (which everyone expects they will). So do the math. Now do I think that Centreville will beat SOCO by 35 or more points? No, this is the playoffs but I do think that Centreville will win by a wide margin going away. I am happy to learn or reasons why not but it is all based on relative strengths and weaknesses. Both have a strong offense, but CVille defense just in another class altogether. Plus it is at CVille, plus CVille has a more diversified offensive attack, plus better coaching staff, etc. etc.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:06AM
"Centreville. Kicking and punting is a wash but on punt and kickoff runbacks CVille is phenomenal.
Special teams though will not win or lose this game. SOCO's lack of defense and Cville's superior defense WILL win and lose this game."
hsballfan,
Saw the kicker for Centreville when he was an eighth grader playing CYA football. He was kicking 45 yard field goals at that time, not sure who SOCO's kicker is but definitely an edge to Centreville.
However, guess it's a moot point because it's not going to come down to a last second field goal to determine the outcome. Centreville will have no problem scoring on SOCO's defense and SOCO'S offense will be limited when facing a defense superior to any it’s seen this year.
Special teams though will not win or lose this game. SOCO's lack of defense and Cville's superior defense WILL win and lose this game."
hsballfan,
Saw the kicker for Centreville when he was an eighth grader playing CYA football. He was kicking 45 yard field goals at that time, not sure who SOCO's kicker is but definitely an edge to Centreville.
However, guess it's a moot point because it's not going to come down to a last second field goal to determine the outcome. Centreville will have no problem scoring on SOCO's defense and SOCO'S offense will be limited when facing a defense superior to any it’s seen this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:11AM
are you guys saying this game should not even be played?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 18, 2013 12:19PM
?? Wrote:
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> are you guys saying this game should not even be
> played?
Yeah, SC should just give up and forfeit the game now. CV already has it won. In the bag. Game over. In fact all the other 6A teams should just give up now, and we just declare CV the state champions and be done with it. I'm convinced by all the experts on this thread. LMAO!
-------------------------------------------------------
> are you guys saying this game should not even be
> played?
Yeah, SC should just give up and forfeit the game now. CV already has it won. In the bag. Game over. In fact all the other 6A teams should just give up now, and we just declare CV the state champions and be done with it. I'm convinced by all the experts on this thread. LMAO!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 18, 2013 12:44PM
The point of this is to analyze the games and predict what will happen. On paper, Centreville looks like the far superior team. But it doesn't always play out that way. See: Oakton in 2012. That's why you play the games. I'm predicting Centreville to win the 6A North, but no, we're not just giving them the trophy yet. You have to play it out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 18, 2013 12:53PM
?? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> are you guys saying this game should not even be
> played?
Yeah, SC should just give up and forfeit the game now. CV already has it won. In the bag. Game over. In fact all the other 6A teams should just give up now, and we just declare CV the state champions and be done with it. I'm convinced by all the experts on this thread. LMAO!
I'm not saying at all that we should crown Centreville as the champion, of course not. Anything can and will happen in the postseason, it never fails, just look at Westfield the past 2 years. I think it's just the opinion of a couple on here that it will be very surprising if Centreville doesn't win the 6A North let alone get to the title game. They are every bit as good as advertised, not once this season have they shown any weaknesses or tendencies. They certainly have opposing coaches racking their brains to come up with a game plan other than executing to near perfection in order to defeat them. Trust me, nothing would please me more than to see Centreville lose, I'm not a fan. However, I've watched a ton of football games this year either in person or on film, have not seen any 6A North team that comes close.
-------------------------------------------------------
> are you guys saying this game should not even be
> played?
Yeah, SC should just give up and forfeit the game now. CV already has it won. In the bag. Game over. In fact all the other 6A teams should just give up now, and we just declare CV the state champions and be done with it. I'm convinced by all the experts on this thread. LMAO!
I'm not saying at all that we should crown Centreville as the champion, of course not. Anything can and will happen in the postseason, it never fails, just look at Westfield the past 2 years. I think it's just the opinion of a couple on here that it will be very surprising if Centreville doesn't win the 6A North let alone get to the title game. They are every bit as good as advertised, not once this season have they shown any weaknesses or tendencies. They certainly have opposing coaches racking their brains to come up with a game plan other than executing to near perfection in order to defeat them. Trust me, nothing would please me more than to see Centreville lose, I'm not a fan. However, I've watched a ton of football games this year either in person or on film, have not seen any 6A North team that comes close.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 01:08PM
Well I have an interesting question to ask, if we put the 2007 Westfield team up against this year's Centreville team, who do you think would win??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 01:47PM
Folks I agree with "Coach" in all of this except I am a fan of CVille (smile). BUt also I have seen tons of games and film. Of course SOCO or Langley or Westfield or SJackson or Lake Braddock can beat Centreville. Any given Sunday (Friday) right. But I just do not think the odds are very great. What some of us are trying to do on this site is provide deeper analysis. Sure I can come in and say any team is going to beat another team because I am emotionally involved etc. But what do the reality of the matchups and game/film study say.
SOCO just does not match up well with CVille. Its offense will not score nearly as much as it has against other teams and its defense will not stop Cville's offense at all if they are giving up an average of 25 points a game to other lesser foes. Also people say that the big strength of Langley is their Oline. Of course it is strong but one of Cville's big strengths is its Dline. Neutralized. Other factors point decidedly in Cville's direction. Of course Henderson at Braddock has a great arm but they will not be able to run nearly as much as they have against other teams (CVille has stopped other teams like 70 times in the backfield and that is in addition to sacks) plus Braddock's defense is good but not great like Cville's.
Again I put it out there - if fans of these other teams can provide reasoned analysis based on matchups I am happy to hear and discuss. All I hear though is "we are going to beat you" and "this is our year" and other platitudes that show no real understanding of football x's and o's.
Just to show you that I am not simply a homer I will admit that the game with Braddock is going to be somewhat close - has the possibility of being a great game. I do stick by my estimation though that CVille would win something like 35-24.
Plus where CVille is going to have a huge challenge would be in states against someone like Oscar Smith, Ocean Lakes or Western Branch. Equally athletic and scary teams. Will be a tossup I would even admit CVille probably should be a small underdog to a team like Oscar Smith.
Open to thoughts from other posters....why am I wrong in all of this?
SOCO just does not match up well with CVille. Its offense will not score nearly as much as it has against other teams and its defense will not stop Cville's offense at all if they are giving up an average of 25 points a game to other lesser foes. Also people say that the big strength of Langley is their Oline. Of course it is strong but one of Cville's big strengths is its Dline. Neutralized. Other factors point decidedly in Cville's direction. Of course Henderson at Braddock has a great arm but they will not be able to run nearly as much as they have against other teams (CVille has stopped other teams like 70 times in the backfield and that is in addition to sacks) plus Braddock's defense is good but not great like Cville's.
Again I put it out there - if fans of these other teams can provide reasoned analysis based on matchups I am happy to hear and discuss. All I hear though is "we are going to beat you" and "this is our year" and other platitudes that show no real understanding of football x's and o's.
Just to show you that I am not simply a homer I will admit that the game with Braddock is going to be somewhat close - has the possibility of being a great game. I do stick by my estimation though that CVille would win something like 35-24.
Plus where CVille is going to have a huge challenge would be in states against someone like Oscar Smith, Ocean Lakes or Western Branch. Equally athletic and scary teams. Will be a tossup I would even admit CVille probably should be a small underdog to a team like Oscar Smith.
Open to thoughts from other posters....why am I wrong in all of this?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 01:51PM
Good question about the 2007 Westfield team....interestingly enough I have not seen enough film on them to make a judgment. Of course they had Glennon who now plays for Tampa Bay in the NFL but I will not make a judgement based on sparse info. I do know though that people in the 757 still talk about that Westfield team with awe. As a Centreville fan I am not one to talk too nicely about Westfield (smile) but as a football fan give that team its due too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: November 18, 2013 01:54PM
Westfield forces the critical turnovers, goes to state title.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 01:58PM
Explain that statement please about Westfield and the state title, it is like me saying I have the greenest grass in my front yard, I should win the international yard competition. On what basis are you making this claim?
Again folks let us up the level of analysis on this site otherwise we should simply call it "Who can yell the loudest about their team?"
Again folks let us up the level of analysis on this site otherwise we should simply call it "Who can yell the loudest about their team?"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concordelong time
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:28PM
Actually Westfield 2007 and Oakton 2008 would have been a great matchup.
Recall Oakton went into the state semis undefeated in 2008 only to lose to Oscar Smith, riding a long undefeated streak, 10-7 after Oakton's starting QB, Chris Coyer, literally broke his neck on a cheap shot by Oscar Smith in the first quarter. Oscar SMith won its next game (the championship going away). That Oakton team was loaded, with several FBS players including all-ACC player, Jack Tyler (Tech), Coyer (Temple), Trey Watts (Tulsa), and Nick Koutris (UVA). They beat Bryn Renner (WS) in the playoffs, and blitzed Chantilly 52-14 in the Northern Region final.
This raises another point not yet discussed on this thread. The Northern Region teams generally play a hard (but clean) brand of football. With a few exceptions, the coaches and players all respect one another. It's different elsewhere in the state. The state-caliber teams from outside the region do all sorts of things (chop blocks, blocks below the waist, punches in the pile, late hits, head shots, and plain racial epithet name calling) that the NOVA teams had better prepared for. Those teams are not as well coached as the Northern VA teams, although they are more athletic. If the Wildcats make it, they had better be prepared for such things. A hit to AJ Turner's knees or to Charles Tutt's head can change things instantly.
Recall Oakton went into the state semis undefeated in 2008 only to lose to Oscar Smith, riding a long undefeated streak, 10-7 after Oakton's starting QB, Chris Coyer, literally broke his neck on a cheap shot by Oscar Smith in the first quarter. Oscar SMith won its next game (the championship going away). That Oakton team was loaded, with several FBS players including all-ACC player, Jack Tyler (Tech), Coyer (Temple), Trey Watts (Tulsa), and Nick Koutris (UVA). They beat Bryn Renner (WS) in the playoffs, and blitzed Chantilly 52-14 in the Northern Region final.
This raises another point not yet discussed on this thread. The Northern Region teams generally play a hard (but clean) brand of football. With a few exceptions, the coaches and players all respect one another. It's different elsewhere in the state. The state-caliber teams from outside the region do all sorts of things (chop blocks, blocks below the waist, punches in the pile, late hits, head shots, and plain racial epithet name calling) that the NOVA teams had better prepared for. Those teams are not as well coached as the Northern VA teams, although they are more athletic. If the Wildcats make it, they had better be prepared for such things. A hit to AJ Turner's knees or to Charles Tutt's head can change things instantly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:30PM
Informative post about Wfield 2007 and Oakton 2008 - thanks for the info concorde longtime
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:34PM
hsballfan
Have you seen today's Washington Post? Lake Braddock lost 2 lineman to season ending injury this past Friday night. I believe one was a defensive lineman the other might have played both ways.
Caleb Henderson is nursing an ankle sprain from the SOCO game and their main RB, O'Brien has an MCL sprain. O'Brien did not play this past Friday night and is listed day to day for this week.
It will be interesting to see if the loss of 2 starting DL will affect Lake Braddock's ability to slow Yorktown's M.J. Stewart. Stewart did not play this past Friday so he should be fresh and is definitely a threat.
Are you ready to change you 6A North title prediction yet in regard to who will play Centreville?
Have you seen today's Washington Post? Lake Braddock lost 2 lineman to season ending injury this past Friday night. I believe one was a defensive lineman the other might have played both ways.
Caleb Henderson is nursing an ankle sprain from the SOCO game and their main RB, O'Brien has an MCL sprain. O'Brien did not play this past Friday night and is listed day to day for this week.
It will be interesting to see if the loss of 2 starting DL will affect Lake Braddock's ability to slow Yorktown's M.J. Stewart. Stewart did not play this past Friday so he should be fresh and is definitely a threat.
Are you ready to change you 6A North title prediction yet in regard to who will play Centreville?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:34PM
And of course if it does happen that some other team besides CVille goes to states I will be the first in line to root for the Northern Region rep over any team from the 757!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concorde longtime
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:35PM
Sure thing, hsball fan, just a little reminder that Northern Virginia is not like the rest of the state. . . .
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:40PM
Interesting Coach - no I did not see that in the Wash Post. Sorry to hear about any injuries quite frankly as I want to see the best out of each team. This could change equation though of course. I was at the Braddock SOCO game when Henderson first tweaked his ankle. Braddock was already up quite a bit and was surprised the coach left him in game, if for no other reason then why really injure it and ruin his ride to UNC for the sake of a regular season game.
Also I had not heard if Stewart was going to be able to play this week or not. He is a big difference maker of course - if people do not know about him take a look at some tape on Gameday Network, etc. With those injuries Braddock will have two tough games against Ytown and then likely Westfield (although Wfield is not a given over Robinson if Joe WIlson of the Rams runs wild). I still think Braddock has enough to get by those two teams but injuries do make it tougher.
Thanks for clueing me into the latest info.
Also I had not heard if Stewart was going to be able to play this week or not. He is a big difference maker of course - if people do not know about him take a look at some tape on Gameday Network, etc. With those injuries Braddock will have two tough games against Ytown and then likely Westfield (although Wfield is not a given over Robinson if Joe WIlson of the Rams runs wild). I still think Braddock has enough to get by those two teams but injuries do make it tougher.
Thanks for clueing me into the latest info.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concorde longtime
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:47PM
Just read the WaPo article. How does one suffer a "fractured kidney"? He must mean lacerated. Sounds gruesome.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 02:49PM
Gruesome indeed....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:03PM
hsballfan,
In terms of injuries I was wondering if you had any insight on the condition of some of the banged up Wildcat’s? I know that Tyler Love appears to be lost for the season, too bad, he's an incredible LB. Didn't see the game this past Friday but saw the Centreville-Robinson game, no disrespect but the kid that's taking Love's place in the lineup looked like a deer in the headlights. That’s definitely a blow to the middle of their D, Love compliments Wiggins so well that there has to be a slight drop off in the middle. Your thoughts.
In addition to Nickens-Yzer and Turner's injuries I thought I had heard Tutt and the RB, Boose, were also banged up as well. Have you heard anything about the afore mentioned player's health.
I know Joe Wilson from Robinson seems to be his old self, had been nursing an injury for pretty much the latter half of the season. I think his first game back was the Westfield game and he didn't have many carries, you could see on the film he didn't appear to be 100%. Other than Wilson coming into the playoffs I believe the rest of the Robinson team is in good health.
In regards to Westfield, they have battled injuries for a good portion of the last 6 games. I've heard everyone is pretty much back and playing with the exception of one of their MLB's, McNulty. Coming into the season he appeared to be one of the teams leaders, got hurt against Centreville. Coaching staff has moved some players around and inserted a sophomore at that spot who seems to be a solid ballplayer.
Just thought I would shed some light on the injury topic, had seen it mentioned in an earlier post. All teams go through it, but it's so critical once the season gets to this point. It's one thing to have a back up play in the regular season, but the pressure becomes so intense in the playoffs that for some kids it's just difficult to handle.
Anyone else hear anything about any of the remaining 6A North teams in regard to any key injuries?
In terms of injuries I was wondering if you had any insight on the condition of some of the banged up Wildcat’s? I know that Tyler Love appears to be lost for the season, too bad, he's an incredible LB. Didn't see the game this past Friday but saw the Centreville-Robinson game, no disrespect but the kid that's taking Love's place in the lineup looked like a deer in the headlights. That’s definitely a blow to the middle of their D, Love compliments Wiggins so well that there has to be a slight drop off in the middle. Your thoughts.
In addition to Nickens-Yzer and Turner's injuries I thought I had heard Tutt and the RB, Boose, were also banged up as well. Have you heard anything about the afore mentioned player's health.
I know Joe Wilson from Robinson seems to be his old self, had been nursing an injury for pretty much the latter half of the season. I think his first game back was the Westfield game and he didn't have many carries, you could see on the film he didn't appear to be 100%. Other than Wilson coming into the playoffs I believe the rest of the Robinson team is in good health.
In regards to Westfield, they have battled injuries for a good portion of the last 6 games. I've heard everyone is pretty much back and playing with the exception of one of their MLB's, McNulty. Coming into the season he appeared to be one of the teams leaders, got hurt against Centreville. Coaching staff has moved some players around and inserted a sophomore at that spot who seems to be a solid ballplayer.
Just thought I would shed some light on the injury topic, had seen it mentioned in an earlier post. All teams go through it, but it's so critical once the season gets to this point. It's one thing to have a back up play in the regular season, but the pressure becomes so intense in the playoffs that for some kids it's just difficult to handle.
Anyone else hear anything about any of the remaining 6A North teams in regard to any key injuries?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
not really
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:17PM
concordelong time Wrote:
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If the Wildcats make it, they had
> better be prepared for such things. A hit to AJ
> Turner's knees or to Charles Tutt's head can
> change things instantly.
It's possible however the Wildcats are very deep with talent. If anything were to happen to them the next man will step in and do just fine. That's what makes them so good.
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If the Wildcats make it, they had
> better be prepared for such things. A hit to AJ
> Turner's knees or to Charles Tutt's head can
> change things instantly.
It's possible however the Wildcats are very deep with talent. If anything were to happen to them the next man will step in and do just fine. That's what makes them so good.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:23PM
I do not have any inside tips as to Cville's health. I do know that Love is out until at best the state finals but at that point does it make sense to bring him back? I agree though about his loss as I am sincerely bummed that he is out as you are exactly right - he anchored the middle so well that you could just let Wiggins play "free agent" and roam wherever (see my earlier posts about him being a great spy on Henderson). Do not know about the others but the poster on this site - CVille Student - seemed to suggest last night that rumors were overwrought about injuries to Cville's star players. Hope that poster is correct (smile) - that poster seemed to be on the up and up.
But here is the deal to all readers - injuries suck but they are part of the game of football. You need a team that can withstand that and play 2 or 3 deep at every position. Is CVille perfect in that respect, of course not! But I do believe that they are deeper than the other Northern teams. You will not hear me lamenting the "what if" game if CVille does not make it all the way to a state championship win. Have to just go with what you have.
THis week though, say Turner is still feeling the effects of his neck injury. I would hate to see it but still think CVille would win against SOCO even if he needs to sit a week or two. As they get further along though that becomes a bigger issue.
Best of health to players on all of the teams, let the quality of the team decide the win not some aberration.
But here is the deal to all readers - injuries suck but they are part of the game of football. You need a team that can withstand that and play 2 or 3 deep at every position. Is CVille perfect in that respect, of course not! But I do believe that they are deeper than the other Northern teams. You will not hear me lamenting the "what if" game if CVille does not make it all the way to a state championship win. Have to just go with what you have.
THis week though, say Turner is still feeling the effects of his neck injury. I would hate to see it but still think CVille would win against SOCO even if he needs to sit a week or two. As they get further along though that becomes a bigger issue.
Best of health to players on all of the teams, let the quality of the team decide the win not some aberration.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:23PM
I do not have any inside tips as to Cville's health. I do know that Love is out until at best the state finals but at that point does it make sense to bring him back? I agree though about his loss as I am sincerely bummed that he is out as you are exactly right - he anchored the middle so well that you could just let Wiggins play "free agent" and roam wherever (see my earlier posts about him being a great spy on Henderson). Do not know about the others but the poster on this site - CVille Student - seemed to suggest last night that rumors were overwrought about injuries to Cville's star players. Hope that poster is correct (smile) - that poster seemed to be on the up and up.
But here is the deal to all readers - injuries suck but they are part of the game of football. You need a team that can withstand that and play 2 or 3 deep at every position. Is CVille perfect in that respect, of course not! But I do believe that they are deeper than the other Northern teams. You will not hear me lamenting the "what if" game if CVille does not make it all the way to a state championship win. Have to just go with what you have.
THis week though, say Turner is still feeling the effects of his neck injury. I would hate to see it but still think CVille would win against SOCO even if he needs to sit a week or two. As they get further along though that becomes a bigger issue.
Best of health to players on all of the teams, let the quality of the team decide the win not some aberration.
But here is the deal to all readers - injuries suck but they are part of the game of football. You need a team that can withstand that and play 2 or 3 deep at every position. Is CVille perfect in that respect, of course not! But I do believe that they are deeper than the other Northern teams. You will not hear me lamenting the "what if" game if CVille does not make it all the way to a state championship win. Have to just go with what you have.
THis week though, say Turner is still feeling the effects of his neck injury. I would hate to see it but still think CVille would win against SOCO even if he needs to sit a week or two. As they get further along though that becomes a bigger issue.
Best of health to players on all of the teams, let the quality of the team decide the win not some aberration.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:23PM
I do not have any inside tips as to Cville's health. I do know that Love is out until at best the state finals but at that point does it make sense to bring him back? I agree though about his loss as I am sincerely bummed that he is out as you are exactly right - he anchored the middle so well that you could just let Wiggins play "free agent" and roam wherever (see my earlier posts about him being a great spy on Henderson). Do not know about the others but the poster on this site - CVille Student - seemed to suggest last night that rumors were overwrought about injuries to Cville's star players. Hope that poster is correct (smile) - that poster seemed to be on the up and up.
But here is the deal to all readers - injuries suck but they are part of the game of football. You need a team that can withstand that and play 2 or 3 deep at every position. Is CVille perfect in that respect, of course not! But I do believe that they are deeper than the other Northern teams. You will not hear me lamenting the "what if" game if CVille does not make it all the way to a state championship win. Have to just go with what you have.
THis week though, say Turner is still feeling the effects of his neck injury. I would hate to see it but still think CVille would win against SOCO even if he needs to sit a week or two. As they get further along though that becomes a bigger issue.
Best of health to players on all of the teams, let the quality of the team decide the win not some aberration.
But here is the deal to all readers - injuries suck but they are part of the game of football. You need a team that can withstand that and play 2 or 3 deep at every position. Is CVille perfect in that respect, of course not! But I do believe that they are deeper than the other Northern teams. You will not hear me lamenting the "what if" game if CVille does not make it all the way to a state championship win. Have to just go with what you have.
THis week though, say Turner is still feeling the effects of his neck injury. I would hate to see it but still think CVille would win against SOCO even if he needs to sit a week or two. As they get further along though that becomes a bigger issue.
Best of health to players on all of the teams, let the quality of the team decide the win not some aberration.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:25PM
Sorry fellow posters, my posting went a little haywire there (smile)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
not really
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:26PM
Actually, if the wildcats were to lose Wiggins and Walters, things can change instantly since I don't see any backup being able to fill their shoes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The line
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:29PM
You guys are not giving Socos Oline any credit with it having besides centerville the best running game in the northern region. #74 is a monster and a D1 athlete
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:31PM
Perhaps but fortunately the backups have gotten a lot of time in games this year. For QB, I think Joe Ferrick the backup and likely starter next year has come around well. In this last game he led some nice drives, had some nice zip on his ball, etc. Certainly would make it tougher though I agree.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 03:34PM
I give SOCO's line and the whole team a lot of credit. They are a good 9-2 team with strong qualities. But again it is matchups. They have not faced a defense like CVille's this year. Like the posts about Langley's Oline, such an advantage while great against other teams in neutralized given quality of CVille defense. No one is saying SOCO or Langley or.... is a bad team, just saying based on my analysis not good enough to beat CVille.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:15PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Folks I agree with "Coach" in all of this except I
> am a fan of CVille (smile). BUt also I have seen
> tons of games and film. Of course SOCO or Langley
> or Westfield or SJackson or Lake Braddock can beat
> Centreville. Any given Sunday (Friday) right.
> But I just do not think the odds are very great.
> What some of us are trying to do on this site is
> provide deeper analysis. Sure I can come in and
> say any team is going to beat another team because
> I am emotionally involved etc. But what do the
> reality of the matchups and game/film study say.
What do you think Westfield's chances would be vs C'ville if they were able to get decent production out of their QB? Devon Burns is IMO one of the most talented WR's in NOVA but he's been silent all year in the passing game for obvious reasons. I'd say every game I've seen him play he's been the fastest guy on the field.
If you look at the starting QB's in the old Concorde District Westfield got by far the least out of the QB position. At the end of the season Westfield was experimenting with Burns at QB on a few plays - haven't seen him throw - but he was pretty effective running from the QB spot.
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> Folks I agree with "Coach" in all of this except I
> am a fan of CVille (smile). BUt also I have seen
> tons of games and film. Of course SOCO or Langley
> or Westfield or SJackson or Lake Braddock can beat
> Centreville. Any given Sunday (Friday) right.
> But I just do not think the odds are very great.
> What some of us are trying to do on this site is
> provide deeper analysis. Sure I can come in and
> say any team is going to beat another team because
> I am emotionally involved etc. But what do the
> reality of the matchups and game/film study say.
What do you think Westfield's chances would be vs C'ville if they were able to get decent production out of their QB? Devon Burns is IMO one of the most talented WR's in NOVA but he's been silent all year in the passing game for obvious reasons. I'd say every game I've seen him play he's been the fastest guy on the field.
If you look at the starting QB's in the old Concorde District Westfield got by far the least out of the QB position. At the end of the season Westfield was experimenting with Burns at QB on a few plays - haven't seen him throw - but he was pretty effective running from the QB spot.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:23PM
There is not doubt Westfield has some real nice skill players in Burns, Thrasher Walker, etc. And I agree that Westfield still might make some noise this year. Here is the thing though about Westfield...even if they get good QB play out of Scoville or through some wildcat style approach with Burns or whomever, Braddock and CVille have equal skill talent as well (Braddock - Henderson, Alexander, etc. CVille - Turner, Tutt, Heiner, etc.). What seems to me different about Westfield this year is relative underproduction and quality on the lines and defense (as well as depth in real quality). Again as a CVille fan what has killed me when CVille has lost to Westfield was the depth and quality in the trenches. Centreville wore Westfield down this year with outside stuff but also a heavy dose of Taylor Boose up the middle. By the way with all the talk of Turner and Tutt (great great players) not enough is said about Boose - rare combo on bulk and speed at fullback. Remember the fullback at Oakton last year (name not coming to me, Bundy??), same deal.
So Westfield has a lot of pieces not simply as many pieces as previous years....
So Westfield has a lot of pieces not simply as many pieces as previous years....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:27PM
Sorry the name of the player was Mike Wandey of Oakton last year....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:35PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> So Westfield has a lot of pieces not simply as
> many pieces as previous years....
I agree. They'll have to play a lot better vs. Robinson than they did last Friday against Hayfield if they expect to win. I would not be at all surprised to see Robinson win this game.
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> So Westfield has a lot of pieces not simply as
> many pieces as previous years....
I agree. They'll have to play a lot better vs. Robinson than they did last Friday against Hayfield if they expect to win. I would not be at all surprised to see Robinson win this game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
All district?
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:35PM
Has all district players been named yet?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:38PM
To earlier posts about Lake Braddock injuries I finally saw the Wash Post piece and see now that one of them (the one with the kidney injury) is Dwight Lomax. Wow that is a big loss as he anchored that DLine. Best wishes in recovery to that young man, again never want to see injuries to the players like that, especially kidney injuries (ouch).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:42PM
On the all district teams I understand they were named about a week ago and word is getting out via tweets and if you listen to some of the Gameday broadcasts the announcers would mention a name here and there (Wigging from CVille, etc.). However I have not seen any full published account.
Anyone out there know, please do tell.
Anyone out there know, please do tell.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
stallion #1
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:49PM
SOCO SOCO SOCO GO.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:50PM
here we go again.... :(
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football fever
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:55PM
stallion #1 Wrote:
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> SOCO SOCO SOCO GO.....
Sad if this reflects the student body there.
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> SOCO SOCO SOCO GO.....
Sad if this reflects the student body there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 04:57PM
Even worse if this is a SOCO parent....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:24PM
"There is not doubt Westfield has some real nice skill players in Burns, Thrasher Walker, etc. And I agree that Westfield still might make some noise this year. Here is the thing though about Westfield...even if they get good QB play out of Scoville or through some wildcat style approach with Burns or whomever, Braddock and CVille have equal skill talent as well (Braddock - Henderson, Alexander, etc. CVille - Turner, Tutt, Heiner, etc.). What seems to me different about Westfield this year is relative underproduction and quality on the lines and defense (as well as depth in real quality). Again as a CVille fan what has killed me when CVille has lost to Westfield was the depth and quality in the trenches. Centreville wore Westfield down this year with outside stuff but also a heavy dose of Taylor Boose up the middle. By the way with all the talk of Turner and Tutt (great great players) not enough is said about Boose - rare combo on bulk and speed at fullback. Remember the fullback at Oakton last year (name not coming to me, Bundy??), same deal.
So Westfield has a lot of pieces not simply as many pieces as previous years...."
hsballfan,
I agree with you to some extent when it comes to Westfield, however, I wouldn't sleep on their defense. As stated in previous posts they were gutted by Centreville but 2 DT's, 1 DE, and 2 MLB's out in that game, all starters.
They were pretty impressive against Lake Braddock, also refer to previous posts with regard to INT late that would have sealed the game for the Bulldogs.
Horrible call by refs, but that's not anything new, level of officiating this year has been atrocious. I've got a few good friends who have been high school refs for close to twenty some years and we've shared a few cold ones this year and agreed the zebras have not been very good. But that's another discussion for after the playoffs, will help fill in the void till next season, huge smile on that one.
Scoville certainly has been no Mullins, last year’s QB for Westfield, part due to an issue with his throwing shoulder all season but also just less talent. From what I've heard Scoville's shoulder is much better, have been throwing it a bit more to keep opponents from putting 8-9 guys in the box on D. Thrasher-Walker is an amazing blend of size, speed, and strength but there's only so much he can do against stacked fronts.
I think the Centreville game was a perfect example of what happens when you become one dimensional. Wiggins blitzed on the majority of snaps thus preventing Thrasher-Walker from ever getting past the line without being harassed. When he did Love was there to say hello! I believe after that game the coaching staff for Westfield realized you can't win just running the ball.
I think the big difference between Centreville and Westfield or any other school for that matter is Centreville's depth. Sure, Westfield puts close to 100 kids on the sidelines come Friday night but realistically only about 35-40 of them actually have any playing time this year.
So Westfield has a lot of pieces not simply as many pieces as previous years...."
hsballfan,
I agree with you to some extent when it comes to Westfield, however, I wouldn't sleep on their defense. As stated in previous posts they were gutted by Centreville but 2 DT's, 1 DE, and 2 MLB's out in that game, all starters.
They were pretty impressive against Lake Braddock, also refer to previous posts with regard to INT late that would have sealed the game for the Bulldogs.
Horrible call by refs, but that's not anything new, level of officiating this year has been atrocious. I've got a few good friends who have been high school refs for close to twenty some years and we've shared a few cold ones this year and agreed the zebras have not been very good. But that's another discussion for after the playoffs, will help fill in the void till next season, huge smile on that one.
Scoville certainly has been no Mullins, last year’s QB for Westfield, part due to an issue with his throwing shoulder all season but also just less talent. From what I've heard Scoville's shoulder is much better, have been throwing it a bit more to keep opponents from putting 8-9 guys in the box on D. Thrasher-Walker is an amazing blend of size, speed, and strength but there's only so much he can do against stacked fronts.
I think the Centreville game was a perfect example of what happens when you become one dimensional. Wiggins blitzed on the majority of snaps thus preventing Thrasher-Walker from ever getting past the line without being harassed. When he did Love was there to say hello! I believe after that game the coaching staff for Westfield realized you can't win just running the ball.
I think the big difference between Centreville and Westfield or any other school for that matter is Centreville's depth. Sure, Westfield puts close to 100 kids on the sidelines come Friday night but realistically only about 35-40 of them actually have any playing time this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:35PM
You da man Coach - we do not agree on everything but I think your level of analysis is strong. Thanks for the continuing contributions.
By the way going back to the Braddock injuries, especially Lomax. If I am the Lake Braddock coach right now I am sh---ing bricks because again his offense is great but the defense was just good. Now it has become good (minus). Will be a big deal against Ytown, Westfield/Robinson, and Centreville depending on how far they go. Will be interesting to see how they scheme the defense with those losses...
By the way going back to the Braddock injuries, especially Lomax. If I am the Lake Braddock coach right now I am sh---ing bricks because again his offense is great but the defense was just good. Now it has become good (minus). Will be a big deal against Ytown, Westfield/Robinson, and Centreville depending on how far they go. Will be interesting to see how they scheme the defense with those losses...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
MPaulsen
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:39PM
How is Centreville's run defense? If(aka when) they get past SoCo this week, I'd be interested in their quite possible matchup with Langley next week. Langley probably has the best running game in NoVa, RB has 1972 yds, QB has 831, and they both have combined for an eye-popping 40 TDs on the ground. Has C-Ville even played a team that runs the option(good) this year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:39PM
Last post for the day, Centreville's defense has given up 7.9 points per game, Westfield is 11.5, and Lake Braddock 12.5 through last week. Centreville and Lake Braddock had their lowest point total scored in their games against Westfield.
Just trying to relate this point to an earlier post about defense winning championships. Not saying Westfield will win the North. Just trying to validate any point to the discussion that Westfield could be the representative from their side of the brackett to face Centreville in the 6A North championship.
Please also understand my opinions are just based off what I've seen this year. I am not a fan of any one team, just of the sport itself which is why it's what I do.
Just trying to relate this point to an earlier post about defense winning championships. Not saying Westfield will win the North. Just trying to validate any point to the discussion that Westfield could be the representative from their side of the brackett to face Centreville in the 6A North championship.
Please also understand my opinions are just based off what I've seen this year. I am not a fan of any one team, just of the sport itself which is why it's what I do.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:45PM
Coach have a good night. Sure though you are not Westfield fan (could not resist)?
To the other poster CVille has best run defense in the north will neutralize Langley.
To the other poster CVille has best run defense in the north will neutralize Langley.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:49PM
also Langley better not sleep on Stroman of SJackson - big difference maker like Turner of CVille, MJ from Yorktown, etc
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:51PM
and by the way Centreville has best rushing attack in north maybe even state with 6-7 runners that can hurt a team. If AJ Turner was on another team he would have had 2500 yards but they have so many options
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 18, 2013 05:58PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Even worse if this is a SOCO parent....
Ok, don't criticize the guy for having some enthusiasm for their team. Even though you've already decided the outcome, others may disagree and still believe in their own team. Or maybe they're just messing with you a little. You can agree to disagree on who you think will win. We know for you it's all about Centreville, but for others, maybe not. Centreville has certainly shown they are a great team this year, and a team to beat, but let's let them play the games first before we declare the winner. One game at a time.
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> Even worse if this is a SOCO parent....
Ok, don't criticize the guy for having some enthusiasm for their team. Even though you've already decided the outcome, others may disagree and still believe in their own team. Or maybe they're just messing with you a little. You can agree to disagree on who you think will win. We know for you it's all about Centreville, but for others, maybe not. Centreville has certainly shown they are a great team this year, and a team to beat, but let's let them play the games first before we declare the winner. One game at a time.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:02PM
of course it is all good just trying to get the "hit and run" posters to say a bit more about why their team might win....otherwise the site is about grade school posting.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dead on
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:08PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> and by the way Centreville has best rushing attack
> in north maybe even state with 6-7 runners that
> can hurt a team. If AJ Turner was on another team
> he would have had 2500 yards but they have so many
> options
This is what makes them so good. Pick your poison so to speak...
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> and by the way Centreville has best rushing attack
> in north maybe even state with 6-7 runners that
> can hurt a team. If AJ Turner was on another team
> he would have had 2500 yards but they have so many
> options
This is what makes them so good. Pick your poison so to speak...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dead on
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:09PM
...And it's not fair. :(
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Dean on
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:11PM
I wish my school had so many weapons. Maybe next year Oakton. :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:17PM
Hang in at Oakton as history shows it is hard to keep any Concorde team down for long, Oakton will be back
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:21PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> of course it is all good just trying to get the
> "hit and run" posters to say a bit more about why
> their team might win....otherwise the site is
> about grade school posting.
South County will need to put together a big game on Friday to beat Centreville. Can they do it? Maybe improbable based on the stats, but nothing is impossible. Offensively, they have shown they can score points against good teams, like Lake Braddock, especially in the 1st half. They moved the ball right down the field several times against a good LB defense, and on a couple occasions stopped themselves with turnovers and penalties that stalled drives. If not for that it's a different game going into halftime. Who knows if the outcome would have been different. Maybe not. But who did what in the past and the "coulda/woulda/shoulda" doesn't matter now. LB did seem to make some adjustments after halftime and slowed down the SC offense a little. Bottom line is they did what they needed to do to win. The bigger key, as has been pointed out, is the SC defense, which has struggled to stop the better offenses they have faced this season. They will need to come together big time, step up and execute. Can they do it? We will see. But they certainly won't if they go into the game believing what has been said by some on this thread. They, like any team, have to go into the game thinking that they CAN and WILL win. Stranger things have happened.
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> of course it is all good just trying to get the
> "hit and run" posters to say a bit more about why
> their team might win....otherwise the site is
> about grade school posting.
South County will need to put together a big game on Friday to beat Centreville. Can they do it? Maybe improbable based on the stats, but nothing is impossible. Offensively, they have shown they can score points against good teams, like Lake Braddock, especially in the 1st half. They moved the ball right down the field several times against a good LB defense, and on a couple occasions stopped themselves with turnovers and penalties that stalled drives. If not for that it's a different game going into halftime. Who knows if the outcome would have been different. Maybe not. But who did what in the past and the "coulda/woulda/shoulda" doesn't matter now. LB did seem to make some adjustments after halftime and slowed down the SC offense a little. Bottom line is they did what they needed to do to win. The bigger key, as has been pointed out, is the SC defense, which has struggled to stop the better offenses they have faced this season. They will need to come together big time, step up and execute. Can they do it? We will see. But they certainly won't if they go into the game believing what has been said by some on this thread. They, like any team, have to go into the game thinking that they CAN and WILL win. Stranger things have happened.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:38PM
BTW- The player who fills in at Cville for Love is #80, Christian Brooks. They moved some people around, so he starts at RE. Physically, he is a beast. 6'6", probably pushing 210, but he is a Sophomore. The issue for him is experience. Expect him to get better as the playoffs go on, and later in his career he will be a difference maker. I think he'll also start on their basketball team this year...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:44PM
I hope South County comes ready to give CVille a great game. I think there are a few things that could stop CVille - a rash of injuries and complacency. I would like them to be really tested before Braddock and the 757. Although they dispatched of South Lakes last week easily 35-0 I will be the first to admit it was a lackluster effort relatively speaking for CVille and probably a good wake up call (hope the coaching staff is reminding them every day this week it gets hard starting now....)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wilbert Tucker W.
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:55PM
Why don't they play the Div 6 North championship game at WTW?? Seems a no brainer to me. The stadium seats at least three times as many fans (8-10k) as either C'ville or LB. And, the school is located almost smack dab between C'ville and LB. I don't want to hear about how C'ville "earned home field advantage" via power points. The PPs don't earn home field advantage in the state final game; no reason they should in the semis. Playing at WTW would make the game much more a regional event for thousands of more HS football fans...and bring in lots more $$$ at the gate.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 06:58PM
"BTW- The player who fills in at Cville for Love is #80, Christian Brooks. They moved some people around, so he starts at RE. Physically, he is a beast. 6'6", probably pushing 210, but he is a Sophomore. The issue for him is experience. Expect him to get better as the playoffs go on, and later in his career he will be a difference maker. I think he'll also start on their basketball team this year..."
Kicker,
I thought Love plays LB not DE, #52 Horner is the kid filling in for him. The Gameday host who's son plays on Centreville's team even mentioned his name on last week's broadcast.
Kicker,
I thought Love plays LB not DE, #52 Horner is the kid filling in for him. The Gameday host who's son plays on Centreville's team even mentioned his name on last week's broadcast.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:01PM
I don't make the rules. But CVille stadium actually can hold about 8,000 probably upward of 10K if they allow standing room only.
But word to the wise, if CVille and Braddock do play, get there early to get tickets - will indeed be a well attended game.
But word to the wise, if CVille and Braddock do play, get there early to get tickets - will indeed be a well attended game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:02PM
Agreed, Horner is filling in for Love directly at LB
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:06PM
Hsfballfan
Both do play. I thought Brooks started last week and they shuffled some people to different positions, but I must have missed Horner. He's also gonna be good. Either way, Love is hard to replace, though so far it doesn't look like they're missing him way too much.
Both do play. I thought Brooks started last week and they shuffled some people to different positions, but I must have missed Horner. He's also gonna be good. Either way, Love is hard to replace, though so far it doesn't look like they're missing him way too much.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:08PM
That is right, they are not missing him too much although fun to think if Love can come back because he is we have talked about previously he is a great anchor in the middle of the D which allows Wiggins to free lance all over the place.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:14PM
Wilbert Tucker W. Wrote:
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> Why don't they play the Div 6 North championship
> game at WTW?? Seems a no brainer to me. The
> stadium seats at least three times as many fans
> (8-10k) as either C'ville or LB. And, the school
> is located almost smack dab between C'ville and
> LB. I don't want to hear about how C'ville
> "earned home field advantage" via power points.
> The PPs don't earn home field advantage in the
> state final game; no reason they should in the
> semis. Playing at WTW would make the game much
> more a regional event for thousands of more HS
> football fans...and bring in lots more $$$ at the
> gate.
I love the idea, Unfortunately as part of the new realignment agreement, the state governing body now 'owns' the state finals and the regional finals (now called the state semifinals) and now gets more money that is not going back to the schools hosting the games.
I for one would love to see a NOVA neutral-site final every year in the 6A North, but unfortunately you now have teams in the 5A North from Charlottesville, Orange, Fredericksburg, Loudoun and even one in South Boston?!?! WOW! With such a far-flung playoff possibility, I don't see it happening.
And now that I just thought about it, could you imagine an Arlington/Alexandria team having to travel four hours to South Boston to play Halifax County? I thought all these changes would save money...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2013 07:17PM by nat4lee.
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> Why don't they play the Div 6 North championship
> game at WTW?? Seems a no brainer to me. The
> stadium seats at least three times as many fans
> (8-10k) as either C'ville or LB. And, the school
> is located almost smack dab between C'ville and
> LB. I don't want to hear about how C'ville
> "earned home field advantage" via power points.
> The PPs don't earn home field advantage in the
> state final game; no reason they should in the
> semis. Playing at WTW would make the game much
> more a regional event for thousands of more HS
> football fans...and bring in lots more $$$ at the
> gate.
I love the idea, Unfortunately as part of the new realignment agreement, the state governing body now 'owns' the state finals and the regional finals (now called the state semifinals) and now gets more money that is not going back to the schools hosting the games.
I for one would love to see a NOVA neutral-site final every year in the 6A North, but unfortunately you now have teams in the 5A North from Charlottesville, Orange, Fredericksburg, Loudoun and even one in South Boston?!?! WOW! With such a far-flung playoff possibility, I don't see it happening.
And now that I just thought about it, could you imagine an Arlington/Alexandria team having to travel four hours to South Boston to play Halifax County? I thought all these changes would save money...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2013 07:17PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:16PM
No one ever accused VHSL of intelligence or generosity....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:17PM
My main point is that you need to pay attention to any and all sophomores playing on this team because they must be very good, if they're playing a lot on a deep team like Cville. Brooks, Horner, et al. will be players to pay attention to in a year or too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:19PM
By the way let me talk about the mirror image of your point. Of course I went to Charlottesville two years ago to watch Centreville play Oscar Smith. Even though both teams had upwards of probably 8-10,000 there in such a big stadium the place looked empty. Of course for the regional venue they need a bigger spot (holding aside arguments about home field and power points) but I wonder if they need a smaller like 20,000 seat venue for the state championship?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:20PM
Of course "Kicker" any sophomore that cracks the lineup on CVille is good in my book
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wite
()
Date: November 18, 2013 07:50PM
one area of motivation for soco could be that this is their chance of revenge against adam neff who left them after their state championship game in 2011
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOCO injury
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:05PM
theres not really any key injuries to soco besides their long-term absentee 1st string tailback(Rumors that he might return this week)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:05PM
Offset perhaps by fact their SOCO's current coach Panonni almost ran Cville's program into the ground when he was there 5-6 years back showing up with a 1-9 record....
Sorry, I know I am being flagrant here but could not resist.
Sorry, I know I am being flagrant here but could not resist.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wite
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:09PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Offset perhaps by fact their SOCO's current coach
> Panonni almost ran Cville's program into the
> ground when he was there 5-6 years back showing up
> with a 1-9 record....
>
> Sorry, I know I am being flagrant here but could
> not resist.
That may be so, however he did have the balls to start a lot of freshman and that would eventually go to states
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> Offset perhaps by fact their SOCO's current coach
> Panonni almost ran Cville's program into the
> ground when he was there 5-6 years back showing up
> with a 1-9 record....
>
> Sorry, I know I am being flagrant here but could
> not resist.
That may be so, however he did have the balls to start a lot of freshman and that would eventually go to states
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:12PM
I know, sometimes things just go down for various reasons. Turned out well for both schools. CVille doing well under Haddock, Neff, others. SOCO doing well under Pannoni. Good for him.
But back to the point. Do not think SOCO being pissed at CVille and Neff will make any difference. Being pissed last week for those yahoos from TC Williams for running through your tunnel - now yes that should and did make a difference. If I was one of your SOCO players I would have definitely played beyond my limits if another team did an grade school move like that....
But back to the point. Do not think SOCO being pissed at CVille and Neff will make any difference. Being pissed last week for those yahoos from TC Williams for running through your tunnel - now yes that should and did make a difference. If I was one of your SOCO players I would have definitely played beyond my limits if another team did an grade school move like that....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitRealll
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:16PM
It will be interesting to see CVIlle going up against the best offense in the state (South County) I think it is really going to come down to South County forcing turnovers, and keeping their Offense in the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:21PM
Ok folks must we do this again. SOCO is not the best offense in the state. Stats are just stats. CVille (and Braddock for that matter) played their starters basically one half of each regular season game. Plus SOCO never faced a serious defense like CVille. I have no doubt SOCO will gain some yards but there is no way they will come close to the production they are used to against CVille. I guess they may get a few touchdowns but no more than the 21 they got against Braddock. NOw on the other hand they gave up an average of 25 points a game. CVille will score 40-50 points against a defense like that. Think about matchups not stats from games against teams that are not even playing anymore.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
................
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:23PM
what if the strongest district ends up to being the patriot one where there are only two teams that have a good team
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:27PM
The strongest district is not the Patriot, the strongest teams are not Braddock and SOCO. Of the 8 teams left in the North I would rate SOCO no better than about 6th or 7th sorry. Good season good team but going to be extremely difficult for you to win this week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:29PM
but to clarify I do think Braddock is the second best team left behind CVille. Although Langley and Westfield are even nipping at the heels of Braddock in 3rd and 4th place based on some untimely injuries Braddock is facing
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
...............
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:29PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> The strongest district is not the Patriot, the
> strongest teams are not Braddock and SOCO. Of the
> 8 teams left in the North I would rate SOCO no
> better than about 6th or 7th sorry. Good season
> good team but going to be extremely difficult for
> you to win this week.
Lol i was just saying that in a hypothetical sense
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> The strongest district is not the Patriot, the
> strongest teams are not Braddock and SOCO. Of the
> 8 teams left in the North I would rate SOCO no
> better than about 6th or 7th sorry. Good season
> good team but going to be extremely difficult for
> you to win this week.
Lol i was just saying that in a hypothetical sense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
AWESOME
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:30PM
What are y'alls rankings for the teams?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:32PM
CVille
Braddock
Westfield
Langley
Stonewall
SOCO
Yorktown
Robinson
Braddock
Westfield
Langley
Stonewall
SOCO
Yorktown
Robinson
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:47PM
I guess I kinda ranted on about the sophomores, sorry bout that. Now my rankings of teams still in the 6A playoffs...
1- Centreville. Nuff said.
2- Braddock. Don't think Henderson'n'crew are good enough to beat Centreville.
3- Langley. What a running attack they have over there. Just plain scary.
4- Stonewall. Very talented, just starting to put it together. With the athletes they have, they could possibly give anyone a game.
5- Westfield. Torn a little bit, but have to give them the edge over Robinson since they won in the regular season.
6- Robinson. Joe Wilson is starting to get back towards where he was last season, not a fun thought for defenses.
7- Yorktown. MJ Stewart is the real deal. Him, Turner and Wilson all are awesome.
8- Soco. They're talented, I'd just take all the other playoff teams over them.
You have to be pretty good to make it this far, so I guess outside of the top two, you could possibly see a completely different bottom six. Soco could be 3 in your opinion, and Stonewall could be 8. But like I said, I'd take all these others over Soco. That's my rankings
1- Centreville. Nuff said.
2- Braddock. Don't think Henderson'n'crew are good enough to beat Centreville.
3- Langley. What a running attack they have over there. Just plain scary.
4- Stonewall. Very talented, just starting to put it together. With the athletes they have, they could possibly give anyone a game.
5- Westfield. Torn a little bit, but have to give them the edge over Robinson since they won in the regular season.
6- Robinson. Joe Wilson is starting to get back towards where he was last season, not a fun thought for defenses.
7- Yorktown. MJ Stewart is the real deal. Him, Turner and Wilson all are awesome.
8- Soco. They're talented, I'd just take all the other playoff teams over them.
You have to be pretty good to make it this far, so I guess outside of the top two, you could possibly see a completely different bottom six. Soco could be 3 in your opinion, and Stonewall could be 8. But like I said, I'd take all these others over Soco. That's my rankings
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:50PM
Good analysis "Kicker" - I have no problems with your list. What do others think about his and my list? Anyone have a completely different opinion?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 08:57PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I hope South County comes ready to give CVille a
> great game. I think there are a few things that
> could stop CVille - a rash of injuries and
> complacency. I would like them to be really tested
> before Braddock and the 757. Although they
> dispatched of South Lakes last week easily 35-0 I
> will be the first to admit it was a lackluster
> effort relatively speaking for CVille and probably
> a good wake up call (hope the coaching staff is
> reminding them every day this week it gets hard
> starting now....)
Well Walters, Turner and Nickens-Yzer left the game in the 1st and early 2nd qtr. If they played until the half we would have reached our 42 point avg.
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> I hope South County comes ready to give CVille a
> great game. I think there are a few things that
> could stop CVille - a rash of injuries and
> complacency. I would like them to be really tested
> before Braddock and the 757. Although they
> dispatched of South Lakes last week easily 35-0 I
> will be the first to admit it was a lackluster
> effort relatively speaking for CVille and probably
> a good wake up call (hope the coaching staff is
> reminding them every day this week it gets hard
> starting now....)
Well Walters, Turner and Nickens-Yzer left the game in the 1st and early 2nd qtr. If they played until the half we would have reached our 42 point avg.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:00PM
Hey CVille Student glad you are back on, what is the news from the "supposed" injury report at CVille? All the guys except Love going to be playing Friday night?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:02PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey CVille Student glad you are back on, what is
> the news from the "supposed" injury report at
> CVille? All the guys except Love going to be
> playing Friday night?
Yes indeed. Good practice today. :)
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> Hey CVille Student glad you are back on, what is
> the news from the "supposed" injury report at
> CVille? All the guys except Love going to be
> playing Friday night?
Yes indeed. Good practice today. :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
It's simple
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:03PM
Just wondering but why would you risk a more serious neck injury just for one game that your supposed to win with/without this guy
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:05PM
Awesome. The rumored demise of AJ Turner, Xavier N-Y and others appears to have previously been grossly exaggerated. I was going to say 42-21 against the visitors from SOCO without a few of those guys but now I think I might say 52-21!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:06PM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> My main point is that you need to pay attention to
> any and all sophomores playing on this team
> because they must be very good, if they're playing
> a lot on a deep team like Cville. Brooks, Horner,
> et al. will be players to pay attention to in a
> year or too.
You are correct, Christian and Andre are going to be ones to watch the 2 years.
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> My main point is that you need to pay attention to
> any and all sophomores playing on this team
> because they must be very good, if they're playing
> a lot on a deep team like Cville. Brooks, Horner,
> et al. will be players to pay attention to in a
> year or too.
You are correct, Christian and Andre are going to be ones to watch the 2 years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:07PM
perhaps he was not really that hurt to start with....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:07PM
It's simple Wrote:
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> Just wondering but why would you risk a more
> serious neck injury just for one game that your
> supposed to win with/without this guy
The injury wasn't as serious as initially thought.
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> Just wondering but why would you risk a more
> serious neck injury just for one game that your
> supposed to win with/without this guy
The injury wasn't as serious as initially thought.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:08PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Awesome. The rumored demise of AJ Turner, Xavier
> N-Y and others appears to have previously been
> grossly exaggerated. I was going to say 42-21
> against the visitors from SOCO without a few of
> those guys but now I think I might say 52-21!!!!
That sounds about right to me!
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> Awesome. The rumored demise of AJ Turner, Xavier
> N-Y and others appears to have previously been
> grossly exaggerated. I was going to say 42-21
> against the visitors from SOCO without a few of
> those guys but now I think I might say 52-21!!!!
That sounds about right to me!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:09PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> perhaps he was not really that hurt to start
> with....
Exactly right.
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> perhaps he was not really that hurt to start
> with....
Exactly right.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:10PM
CVille Student, you have been very helpful the last two nights. One thing additional I might ask. You said nine players at CVille were being recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to elaborate? If not no worries just thought I would ask (smile)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:12PM
This board's really fun. Hope they make one for basketball season...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interested1234
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:13PM
What is the general perception of soco? What is their football history? How are they viewed by outsiders?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:15PM
Its fun quotient grows to the extent we are talking real stuff, real analysis, real injury reports, real recruiting. Of course I like to talk about Centreville. Again however I would recommend anyone chime in just please keep it real and logical. If anyone thinks there are reasons why CVille might lose let us hear them. Or if we want to talk about some of the other matchups great. I have watched all the teams a lot in person or on film so am ready to talk about all of them. Only thing that makes this site no fun is when people just saying inane stuff like my school is better than your school with no logic behind it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:17PM
^I completely agree
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 18, 2013 09:17PM
SOCO is a newer school so not a lot of history. Started slow but last few years has done well and now starting to play with the big boys in D6. As I inferred earlier I had my early doubts because Coach Pannoni there did horribly at Centreville but has turned things around. They deserve respect, have a good offense, and should have a 9-2 season. However, they do not have nearly enough defense and their offense has not seen a defense nearly as strong as Cville's.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:18PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> CVille Student, you have been very helpful the
> last two nights. One thing additional I might
> ask. You said nine players at CVille were being
> recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to
> elaborate? If not no worries just thought I would
> ask (smile)
Chad Wiggins, Josh Smith, Chase Heiner, Tyler Love, AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Nickens-Yzer, Taylor Boose, Justin Skule
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> CVille Student, you have been very helpful the
> last two nights. One thing additional I might
> ask. You said nine players at CVille were being
> recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to
> elaborate? If not no worries just thought I would
> ask (smile)
Chad Wiggins, Josh Smith, Chase Heiner, Tyler Love, AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Nickens-Yzer, Taylor Boose, Justin Skule
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:20PM
Cville Student Wrote:
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CVille Student, you have been very helpful the
> > last two nights. One thing additional I might
> > ask. You said nine players at CVille were
> being
> > recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to
> > elaborate? If not no worries just thought I
> would
> > ask (smile)
>
> Chad Wiggins, Josh Smith, Chase Heiner, Tyler
> Love, AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Nickens-Yzer,
> Taylor Boose, Justin Skule
The speed of this group is what sets them apart.
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CVille Student, you have been very helpful the
> > last two nights. One thing additional I might
> > ask. You said nine players at CVille were
> being
> > recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to
> > elaborate? If not no worries just thought I
> would
> > ask (smile)
>
> Chad Wiggins, Josh Smith, Chase Heiner, Tyler
> Love, AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Nickens-Yzer,
> Taylor Boose, Justin Skule
The speed of this group is what sets them apart.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:22PM
Thanks as usual. Plus you can add Walter to that list who I hear wants to play baseball and then of course I would be very surprised if Christian Brooks, Devante Wright, and a few others don't eventually get some looks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:28PM
One more CVille Student - how are people on the inside feeling about Joe Ferrick for next year at QB? Good he is getting a lot of reps this year in the blowouts but honestly looked a bit timid early in the year. Thought in this last game with South Lakes he had some more confidence, zip on the ball, etc. He of course will be handed the keys to a smooth Ferrari next year with the returnees....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:36PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> One more CVille Student - how are people on the
> inside feeling about Joe Ferrick for next year at
> QB? Good he is getting a lot of reps this year in
> the blowouts but honestly looked a bit timid early
> in the year. Thought in this last game with South
> Lakes he had some more confidence, zip on the
> ball, etc. He of course will be handed the keys
> to a smooth Ferrari next year with the
> returnees....
Walters is getting a few D2 looks however he's a beast at baseball and that's what he's going to pursue.
As for Ferrick, you hit the nail on the head. Timid early on however has gained a tremendous amount of confidence that last couple of weeks. It certainly shows in practice. We will be in good hands when he takes over the wheel.
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> One more CVille Student - how are people on the
> inside feeling about Joe Ferrick for next year at
> QB? Good he is getting a lot of reps this year in
> the blowouts but honestly looked a bit timid early
> in the year. Thought in this last game with South
> Lakes he had some more confidence, zip on the
> ball, etc. He of course will be handed the keys
> to a smooth Ferrari next year with the
> returnees....
Walters is getting a few D2 looks however he's a beast at baseball and that's what he's going to pursue.
As for Ferrick, you hit the nail on the head. Timid early on however has gained a tremendous amount of confidence that last couple of weeks. It certainly shows in practice. We will be in good hands when he takes over the wheel.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:40PM
Thanks again for your insights, very helpful!
Go Wildcats!!!!!
Go Wildcats!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Also Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:45PM
"We will be in good hands when he takes over the wheel."
Hahaha that's funny cause Ferrick's dad is the drivers' ed teacher at Cville haha
Hahaha that's funny cause Ferrick's dad is the drivers' ed teacher at Cville haha
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:46PM
Cville Student Wrote:
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CVille Student, you have been very helpful the
> > last two nights. One thing additional I might
> > ask. You said nine players at CVille were
> being
> > recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to
> > elaborate? If not no worries just thought I
> would
> > ask (smile)
>
> Chad Wiggins, Josh Smith, Chase Heiner, Tyler
> Love, AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Nickens-Yzer,
> Taylor Boose, Justin Skule
6 of the 9 are juniors!
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CVille Student, you have been very helpful the
> > last two nights. One thing additional I might
> > ask. You said nine players at CVille were
> being
> > recruited by D1 schools. Are you at liberty to
> > elaborate? If not no worries just thought I
> would
> > ask (smile)
>
> Chad Wiggins, Josh Smith, Chase Heiner, Tyler
> Love, AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Nickens-Yzer,
> Taylor Boose, Justin Skule
6 of the 9 are juniors!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:49PM
That CVille has that quality in the junior ranks, sophs like Horner and Christian Brooks, Richebourg and others coming, and then a Freshman class led by Jameel Siler, Kobie Turner (yes AJ's little brother) and others on the way makes it fun to say the least to be a CVille football fan these days. And by the way forgot to mention CVille Fresh team completed yet another 9-0 season again beating Westfield and the rest....
Oh yeah....
Oh yeah....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:55PM
What about the other teams left folks so I do not get accused of making this into the CVille channel...heck we can even talk D5 - look what Falls Church is doing this year...good for them. I always like when schools that do not have a great sports tradition can get behind a team - definitely happening at Falls Church this year (that is awesome)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 18, 2013 09:58PM
Also Cville Student Wrote:
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> "We will be in good hands when he takes over the
> wheel."
> Hahaha that's funny cause Ferrick's dad is the
> drivers' ed teacher at Cville haha
Hahaha you're right!
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> "We will be in good hands when he takes over the
> wheel."
> Hahaha that's funny cause Ferrick's dad is the
> drivers' ed teacher at Cville haha
Hahaha you're right!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 18, 2013 10:17PM
why ridiculous? Wrote:
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> wildcatrunsupport Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mysteriomaco Wrote:
> >
>
> Not ridiculous at all. According to VHSL, The 2013
> wildcats are very similar to the 2007 Bulldogs.
> See below:
>
> http://www.vhsl-reference.com/similar2013_list.cfm
Interesting find. So here's a question, if Cville is projected to be even better next year than this year, which team would you compare them to if this years team is being compared to the 2007 Bulldogs? The 2008 Phoebus Phantoms who had the best season in VHSL history?
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> wildcatrunsupport Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mysteriomaco Wrote:
> >
>
> Not ridiculous at all. According to VHSL, The 2013
> wildcats are very similar to the 2007 Bulldogs.
> See below:
>
> http://www.vhsl-reference.com/similar2013_list.cfm
Interesting find. So here's a question, if Cville is projected to be even better next year than this year, which team would you compare them to if this years team is being compared to the 2007 Bulldogs? The 2008 Phoebus Phantoms who had the best season in VHSL history?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 10:20PM
I for one think they have a chance to be better next year but also this year is really good because of the great juniors but complemented by a small set of great seniors - Walter, Heiner, Smith, Wiggins, etc.
I think this THE YEAR but of course next year will be great as well. Depends on how well Love takes over for Wiggins as the main LB, how well Ferrick takes over from Walter as QB, etc. In any event of course the cupboard will not be bare by any stretch....
I think this THE YEAR but of course next year will be great as well. Depends on how well Love takes over for Wiggins as the main LB, how well Ferrick takes over from Walter as QB, etc. In any event of course the cupboard will not be bare by any stretch....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
d5
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:15PM
Can we rank the remaining 8 teams?
Note - D5 went according to chalk, where all of the 8 higher seeds won.
I think Stone Bridge rolls over a tough but undersized Broad Run team.
Falls Church is in a real tough spot this week.
Tuscarora will fall hard, even as higher seed. North Stafford by 14 or more.
I think Briar - Mountain View game is going to be closer than the so-called spread, but Falcons advance to set up 1st ever meeting against Stone Bridge with winner advancing to regional finas. What a big game that will be in Ashburn! All of those kids played youth football together!
Note - D5 went according to chalk, where all of the 8 higher seeds won.
I think Stone Bridge rolls over a tough but undersized Broad Run team.
Falls Church is in a real tough spot this week.
Tuscarora will fall hard, even as higher seed. North Stafford by 14 or more.
I think Briar - Mountain View game is going to be closer than the so-called spread, but Falcons advance to set up 1st ever meeting against Stone Bridge with winner advancing to regional finas. What a big game that will be in Ashburn! All of those kids played youth football together!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:30PM
We just reseeded the D6 teams for fun. There is no reseeding in the North. Strangely after this week the south will reseed. But to your D5 picks
Agree unfortunately the gig will be up for Falls Church as Massaponax is very good.
ALso agree North Stafford will take Tuscarora.
Setting up a Stone Bridge and Briar Woods game will indeed be an interesting thing. Would like to see that game if I wasn't already planning to be at some D6 games....
Agree unfortunately the gig will be up for Falls Church as Massaponax is very good.
ALso agree North Stafford will take Tuscarora.
Setting up a Stone Bridge and Briar Woods game will indeed be an interesting thing. Would like to see that game if I wasn't already planning to be at some D6 games....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:31PM
By the way feel sorry for all of the teams in the North as they will not beat LC Bird from the South....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Can
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:33PM
Speaking of sophomores playing the two best I've seen on defense this year in the Concorde are linebackers, one for Oakton, #10 I think, the other at Westfield, #41. The skinny on both are that they earned starting positions as the season progressed from their level of play, not injury. Both are thought to be D1 level talent from what I hear.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:35PM
Do you happen to remember their names?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:36PM
Sorry last post was from "Fan" not "Can", damn IPhone!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Can
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:40PM
Last name of Oakton's kid is Escajeda I believe, spelling could be wrong. Kid from Westfield last name is Clancy. Both have a real nose for the ball, are big, and can hit. Have seen a couple of either one of their teams games. Had to go watch them when the two schools played each other, both played well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:41PM
Sorry, damn iPhone again, stupid autocorrect!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:42PM
will keep an eye out for them
hsfballfan signing off for tonite
thanks to everyone for good posts tonite
hsfballfan signing off for tonite
thanks to everyone for good posts tonite
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:45PM
I have the pleasure of getting to watch a lot of games. I work for a local company, my job is to film games so I get to see a ton of local high school football.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bam
()
Date: November 18, 2013 11:58PM
the kicker & others who are interested... basketball post
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1337070/1367033.html#msg-1367033
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1337070/1367033.html#msg-1367033
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsref
()
Date: November 19, 2013 07:30AM
Saw Centreville 3 times and SOCO 3 times. SOCO has a better shot than the one Centreville fan on here thinks. I will agree though if they have turnovers like they did vs LB SOCO will lose. Saw SOCO beat Stonewall in preseason. SOCO defense has some good physical athletes but need to stay focused every play, a SOCO parent tells me 9 of there defensive starters will be back next year. SOCO D has left several teams with significant injuries the week after they played them. LB, TC, Hayfield MV. If CV wins next weeks opponent will prob get a weaker CV.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
yes
()
Date: November 19, 2013 08:26AM
hsref Wrote:
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> Saw Centreville 3 times and SOCO 3 times. SOCO
> has a better shot than the one Centreville fan on
> here thinks. I will agree though if they have
> turnovers like they did vs LB SOCO will lose. Saw
> SOCO beat Stonewall in preseason. SOCO defense
> has some good physical athletes but need to stay
> focused every play, a SOCO parent tells me 9 of
> there defensive starters will be back next year.
> SOCO D has left several teams with significant
> injuries the week after they played them. LB, TC,
> Hayfield MV. If CV wins next weeks opponent will
> prob get a weaker CV.
This is so true. If i were cville and got stonewall next week after soco punished some of my players i would pe scared
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> Saw Centreville 3 times and SOCO 3 times. SOCO
> has a better shot than the one Centreville fan on
> here thinks. I will agree though if they have
> turnovers like they did vs LB SOCO will lose. Saw
> SOCO beat Stonewall in preseason. SOCO defense
> has some good physical athletes but need to stay
> focused every play, a SOCO parent tells me 9 of
> there defensive starters will be back next year.
> SOCO D has left several teams with significant
> injuries the week after they played them. LB, TC,
> Hayfield MV. If CV wins next weeks opponent will
> prob get a weaker CV.
This is so true. If i were cville and got stonewall next week after soco punished some of my players i would pe scared
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FB---Fan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 08:40AM
hsref Wrote:
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> Saw Centreville 3 times and SOCO 3 times. SOCO
> has a better shot than the one Centreville fan on
> here thinks. I will agree though if they have
> turnovers like they did vs LB SOCO will lose. Saw
> SOCO beat Stonewall in preseason. SOCO defense
> has some good physical athletes but need to stay
> focused every play, a SOCO parent tells me 9 of
> there defensive starters will be back next year.
> SOCO D has left several teams with significant
> injuries the week after they played them. LB, TC,
> Hayfield MV. If CV wins next weeks opponent will
> prob get a weaker CV.
Credit to the poster here. Much better insight about SOCO and analysis that the 'SOCO rules'. A little scary that SOCO seems to injure players. We could see that with TC Williams as they made a number of late hits/cheap shots against CVille and LB and as that tunnel run shows the type of team they are. SOCO is a tough team and the CVille coaches have to be prepared. While all of the numbers shows CVille winning handily, last years Oakton run will be in the minds of many coaches/players/fans of what can happen and particular season, especially if you do not play well. Going to the VHSL Reference simulator shows CVille winning 71% of the time. Far from an easy win.
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> Saw Centreville 3 times and SOCO 3 times. SOCO
> has a better shot than the one Centreville fan on
> here thinks. I will agree though if they have
> turnovers like they did vs LB SOCO will lose. Saw
> SOCO beat Stonewall in preseason. SOCO defense
> has some good physical athletes but need to stay
> focused every play, a SOCO parent tells me 9 of
> there defensive starters will be back next year.
> SOCO D has left several teams with significant
> injuries the week after they played them. LB, TC,
> Hayfield MV. If CV wins next weeks opponent will
> prob get a weaker CV.
Credit to the poster here. Much better insight about SOCO and analysis that the 'SOCO rules'. A little scary that SOCO seems to injure players. We could see that with TC Williams as they made a number of late hits/cheap shots against CVille and LB and as that tunnel run shows the type of team they are. SOCO is a tough team and the CVille coaches have to be prepared. While all of the numbers shows CVille winning handily, last years Oakton run will be in the minds of many coaches/players/fans of what can happen and particular season, especially if you do not play well. Going to the VHSL Reference simulator shows CVille winning 71% of the time. Far from an easy win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 08:59AM
Hi folks I am back. Of course there are multiple CVille fans in these posts but I assume that the poster this morning is referring to me "that one Centreville fan"). Well here we go...
(1) Let us keep it clean and logical, not emotional
(2) Sorry to hear that SOCO has a history of causing injuries to other teams. Hope it is not intentional. Of course playing in the Concorde District I am comfortable that CVille will be able to handle physicality if that is the reason.
(3) Of course at this stage any team has a chance to win but consider the facts
(4) CVille gave up 7 points a game against stronger competition than SOCO played overall. In reality this should be about 3-4 points a game since the first line team was always pulled out about halftime and some points were scored on third stringers late by other teams.
(5) SOCO's offense is good no doubt but it has not faced a defense as strong as Cville's . Lake Braddock has a good defense not a great defense. So do you expect SOCO to put up more than 21 against CVille. Best of luck folks.
(6) Now let us turn to the real reason why SOCO will lose. SOCO gave up on average 25 points a game again playing a mostly Patriot district schedule. Centreville playing a mostly Concorde district schedule average well over 40 points a game. So again I ask - how does SOCO imagine it will hold CVille to something less than 40 points?
(7) Throw in the CVille home crowd, the fact that CVille will not take anyone lightly, the fact that Neff will have some ideas of what SOCO is trying to do, etc. how does SOCO really think it is going to win?
(8) Please bring your emotion to the game as I want CVille to be tested instead of winning another 35 or worse to zero type of game.
(9) However please do not bring a "hey let us try to injure that team" type of attitude.
Best of luck to SOCO.
(1) Let us keep it clean and logical, not emotional
(2) Sorry to hear that SOCO has a history of causing injuries to other teams. Hope it is not intentional. Of course playing in the Concorde District I am comfortable that CVille will be able to handle physicality if that is the reason.
(3) Of course at this stage any team has a chance to win but consider the facts
(4) CVille gave up 7 points a game against stronger competition than SOCO played overall. In reality this should be about 3-4 points a game since the first line team was always pulled out about halftime and some points were scored on third stringers late by other teams.
(5) SOCO's offense is good no doubt but it has not faced a defense as strong as Cville's . Lake Braddock has a good defense not a great defense. So do you expect SOCO to put up more than 21 against CVille. Best of luck folks.
(6) Now let us turn to the real reason why SOCO will lose. SOCO gave up on average 25 points a game again playing a mostly Patriot district schedule. Centreville playing a mostly Concorde district schedule average well over 40 points a game. So again I ask - how does SOCO imagine it will hold CVille to something less than 40 points?
(7) Throw in the CVille home crowd, the fact that CVille will not take anyone lightly, the fact that Neff will have some ideas of what SOCO is trying to do, etc. how does SOCO really think it is going to win?
(8) Please bring your emotion to the game as I want CVille to be tested instead of winning another 35 or worse to zero type of game.
(9) However please do not bring a "hey let us try to injure that team" type of attitude.
Best of luck to SOCO.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 09:21AM
Here is another data point SOCO fans that should concern you greatly. SOCO lost to Chantilly in Chantilly 42-34. Centreville beat Chantilly in Chantilly 42-0.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 19, 2013 09:24AM
I fear the SOCO game because the team is already making plans for the semi-final game with LB. Just check out some of the twitter posts. The only thing that they haven't done is post bulletin board material for SOCO. CVille also has a history of overlooking opponents by coming out flat for important games. It happened in 2011 in the first Westfield game and again last year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 09:29AM
In the first Westfield game in 2011 CVille dominated that game, especially the first half. An ill advised reverse kickoff play to start the second half turned momentum, then rain, etc. Last year I will be the first to admit that Westfield was marginally better than CVille since the latter was playing so many sophomores. I am confident no one will be taken lightly...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 09:37AM
Inquisitive One I also looked at Twitter - did not see anything concerning, what did you see
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
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Date: November 19, 2013 09:42AM
Simple thing but indicative of the mindset of the team. A CVille back was tweeting with a LB player and discussing what uniforms LB was going to wear for the semi final game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
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hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 09:44AM
Ok they might just be friends (smile). Actually more concerned on the Lake Braddock side with them needing to get past Ytown and likely Westfield....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
interesting
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Date: November 19, 2013 09:54AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Here is another data point SOCO fans that should
> concern you greatly. SOCO lost to Chantilly in
> Chantilly 42-34. Centreville beat Chantilly in
> Chantilly 42-0.
More data points: Centreville scored 503 points this year for an average of 45.7 points per game. Only 35 (7%) of those points were in the 4th Q, and 398 points (79.1%) were scored in the first half. Had Centreville's 2nd half kept pace with their 1st half, they would be averaging 72 points per game. Of course with a running clock that would never happen, but you get the point. As for the Defense, they are only giving up 7.9 points per game. Impressive enough, but even more impressive is the starters only allowed 4.3 points per game. 46% of the defensive points given up by Centreville this season were in the 4th Quarter.
In contrast, South County did averaged 46.8 points per game, however, I suspect the starters were on the field in the 3rd/4th quarters, mainly because the defense was giving up an average of 22.2 points.
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> Here is another data point SOCO fans that should
> concern you greatly. SOCO lost to Chantilly in
> Chantilly 42-34. Centreville beat Chantilly in
> Chantilly 42-0.
More data points: Centreville scored 503 points this year for an average of 45.7 points per game. Only 35 (7%) of those points were in the 4th Q, and 398 points (79.1%) were scored in the first half. Had Centreville's 2nd half kept pace with their 1st half, they would be averaging 72 points per game. Of course with a running clock that would never happen, but you get the point. As for the Defense, they are only giving up 7.9 points per game. Impressive enough, but even more impressive is the starters only allowed 4.3 points per game. 46% of the defensive points given up by Centreville this season were in the 4th Quarter.
In contrast, South County did averaged 46.8 points per game, however, I suspect the starters were on the field in the 3rd/4th quarters, mainly because the defense was giving up an average of 22.2 points.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
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hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 10:00AM
Good analysis "interesting" thanks for your contribution.
Looking for any logical rebuttals from SOCO fans.
Looking for any logical rebuttals from SOCO fans.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
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Denny Green of LB
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Date: November 19, 2013 10:55AM
No need for logical rebuttals Centreville is favored. If SOCO wins it will be a huge upset. only rebuttal is it starts 0-0 but Cville is home with several D-1 players a coach formerly from SOCO great players from the strongest district. Centreville is who we thought they were, if you want to crown them go ahead and crown their A$$. Looking for logical rebuttals is a joke. Upsets happen in sports but no logic to explain why SOCO should win. The previous poster did not allege SOCO injures anyone on purpose, they are just a physical team that is a little young on defense. Coincidence that LB RB sprained MCL vs SOCO. SOCO caused one player to have to have spleen removed in an earlier game just a clean hard hit. The bruins will be ready for Cville but we also have work to do and injured players. Although we beat SOCO it was closer than the final score as they had 600 yards of offense vs our strong d.No excuse just a fact.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach Nova
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Date: November 19, 2013 11:21AM
So what schools will be looking for a new coach?
Annandale?
Edison?
Woodson?
Annandale?
Edison?
Woodson?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
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Date: November 19, 2013 11:34AM
enough about C-ville and SOCO already! How does Robinson look? what about Stonewll? how about Langley?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
refs
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Date: November 19, 2013 11:40AM
another factor will be how biased the refs are
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 11:50AM
Happy to talk about the other teams too because as I have said before I have seen all of them multiple times in person or on film.
Robinson - will go as far as Joe Wilson will take them as he is a great RB but has been nicked up this year. Problem is everyone knows it and teams are keying on Robinson's running game. Do not have the outside athletes or QB to sustain a strong enough passing attack as an antidote. Will give Westfield a good game but I think Westfield wins by about 10 points.
Langley - interesting team, we have talked a lot about their oline and of course their rb and qb have racked up a lot of yardage in the option. Problem is that is something that can be neutralized by a stellar defense like Centreville. Not sure what the options are if the option gets stopped or at least held down.
Stonewall Jackson - tread carefully here. Greg Stroman is one of a small handful of exemplary athletes in the region (read MJ Stewart at Ytown, AJ Turner at Centreville, etc.). He carried that team last week against W-L. Langley is certainly more stout on D than W-L but do not sleep on Stonewall.
Robinson - will go as far as Joe Wilson will take them as he is a great RB but has been nicked up this year. Problem is everyone knows it and teams are keying on Robinson's running game. Do not have the outside athletes or QB to sustain a strong enough passing attack as an antidote. Will give Westfield a good game but I think Westfield wins by about 10 points.
Langley - interesting team, we have talked a lot about their oline and of course their rb and qb have racked up a lot of yardage in the option. Problem is that is something that can be neutralized by a stellar defense like Centreville. Not sure what the options are if the option gets stopped or at least held down.
Stonewall Jackson - tread carefully here. Greg Stroman is one of a small handful of exemplary athletes in the region (read MJ Stewart at Ytown, AJ Turner at Centreville, etc.). He carried that team last week against W-L. Langley is certainly more stout on D than W-L but do not sleep on Stonewall.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 12:58PM
Anyone else have any opinions on these teams?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
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Coach
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Date: November 19, 2013 01:18PM
"Last name of Oakton's kid is Escajeda I believe, spelling could be wrong. Kid from Westfield last name is Clancy. Both have a real nose for the ball, are big, and can hit. Have seen a couple of either one of their teams games. Had to go watch them when the two schools played each other, both played well."
Fan or Can, whichever it might be,
You got the kid from Oakton last name right, Escajeda, but his number is #5. You’re correct about the Westfield kid both name and number, Clancy(#41). Sorry, it's the OCD in me for correcting you.
I've too seen both of these young men play, very impressed, should be hearing their names a good deal over the next 2 years. They both are eerily similar not only in their style of play but build as well, look and play like they were cloned.
hsfballfan,
I can assure you I'm not a fan of Westfield, the thought of that just made me throw up in my mouth just a little, no offense Westfield fans. I am just a fan like you that has had the opportunity to coach against many of the teams mentioned in this thread. Just like to share my perspective of the teams that I've seen more of especially up close.
In regard to the rankings that were posted earlier, I would rate the teams in this order;
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Westfield
Langley/Robinson
Stonewall
SOCO
Yorktown
I deliberately left the space between Centreville and the rest because the others just are not even close. This team is one of those that comes around every so often that are just that special. I paired Langley and Robinson together because that's a toss-up in my opinion. You have to rate Robinson above Stonewall only because they dispatched Patriot so easily, and Patriot did lose to Stonewall but only by 6. Also due to the fact that Patriot beat Hylton, highly regarded in the 6A South, by 10 earlier in the season. Just hard to not rank Concorde teams higher due to the strength of the district, records may not always reflect teams overall talent if that makes any sense.
But once again, just my opinion as are all of these threads from everyone. I must say it's just nice for a change to see a topic on here where there's not name calling and insults thrown about. One of the most insightful and enjoyable threads that I can remember.
Fan or Can, whichever it might be,
You got the kid from Oakton last name right, Escajeda, but his number is #5. You’re correct about the Westfield kid both name and number, Clancy(#41). Sorry, it's the OCD in me for correcting you.
I've too seen both of these young men play, very impressed, should be hearing their names a good deal over the next 2 years. They both are eerily similar not only in their style of play but build as well, look and play like they were cloned.
hsfballfan,
I can assure you I'm not a fan of Westfield, the thought of that just made me throw up in my mouth just a little, no offense Westfield fans. I am just a fan like you that has had the opportunity to coach against many of the teams mentioned in this thread. Just like to share my perspective of the teams that I've seen more of especially up close.
In regard to the rankings that were posted earlier, I would rate the teams in this order;
Centreville
Lake Braddock
Westfield
Langley/Robinson
Stonewall
SOCO
Yorktown
I deliberately left the space between Centreville and the rest because the others just are not even close. This team is one of those that comes around every so often that are just that special. I paired Langley and Robinson together because that's a toss-up in my opinion. You have to rate Robinson above Stonewall only because they dispatched Patriot so easily, and Patriot did lose to Stonewall but only by 6. Also due to the fact that Patriot beat Hylton, highly regarded in the 6A South, by 10 earlier in the season. Just hard to not rank Concorde teams higher due to the strength of the district, records may not always reflect teams overall talent if that makes any sense.
But once again, just my opinion as are all of these threads from everyone. I must say it's just nice for a change to see a topic on here where there's not name calling and insults thrown about. One of the most insightful and enjoyable threads that I can remember.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 01:34PM
Hey Coach welcome back today. Good list, cannot quibble much. Happy you are not a Westfield fan (smile) but would not care if you were.
I took a little grief this morning from the SOCO and Braddock fans - that is alright I am a big boy.
Happy though people like you and some others see the value in analyzing and discussing real x's and o's rather than just talking smack.
Let us keep the quality of this site going - can only happen if we all try hard. Plus I will be the first to admit I do not know everything. Just a lifelong sports fan with some coaching experience of my own in years past, always been a big "Friday Night Lights" guy - who wouldn't like good high school football, then of course Cville's quality makes it even easier. But I have learned a lot from my younger days. Emotion is great and can help ride the day. But you also have to look at games/film, think about matchups and be logical about stuff. Not to say you won't have upsets, they do happen, but much more often than not the team that is supposed to win does win if advantages maximized and disadvantages minimized.
Keep pushing me to be better in my analysis...
Still waiting to hear more from fans from Braddock, Langley, etc. about how and why their teams will win out.
HSFBALLFAN
I took a little grief this morning from the SOCO and Braddock fans - that is alright I am a big boy.
Happy though people like you and some others see the value in analyzing and discussing real x's and o's rather than just talking smack.
Let us keep the quality of this site going - can only happen if we all try hard. Plus I will be the first to admit I do not know everything. Just a lifelong sports fan with some coaching experience of my own in years past, always been a big "Friday Night Lights" guy - who wouldn't like good high school football, then of course Cville's quality makes it even easier. But I have learned a lot from my younger days. Emotion is great and can help ride the day. But you also have to look at games/film, think about matchups and be logical about stuff. Not to say you won't have upsets, they do happen, but much more often than not the team that is supposed to win does win if advantages maximized and disadvantages minimized.
Keep pushing me to be better in my analysis...
Still waiting to hear more from fans from Braddock, Langley, etc. about how and why their teams will win out.
HSFBALLFAN
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Justathought
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Date: November 19, 2013 01:50PM
Watching both Cville and SoCo film, this coming from a coach, I believe SoCo stacks up well athletically on both sides of the ball with Cville. I do not think it is necessarily a matter of these guys are just plain better than SoCo but rather a matter of execution. That being said there are certainly players on Cville that are physically better than guys at Soco. However, you go back and watch film on SoCo and the scores they gave up and nearly all of them were a result of poor execution by the defense. It was most definitely not an issue of the other guy just being better. If, and that is a big if given the past 11 games they've played, SoCo's D can cut down the mental mistakes I believe they will give themselves a fair shot at winning.
I've read more than a few times about SoCo not seeing such a stout defense as the one they will see this Friday but I should remind everyone here that Neff was at Soco just 2 years ago and the offensive staff that is there now hasn't changed since he was there. Neff knowing the offensive style certainly gives him an advantage but the offense knowing Neff's style gives them an advantage as well.
All in all I believe that if SoCo can shore up its execution issues on D Friday night will be a very good game.
Justathought
I've read more than a few times about SoCo not seeing such a stout defense as the one they will see this Friday but I should remind everyone here that Neff was at Soco just 2 years ago and the offensive staff that is there now hasn't changed since he was there. Neff knowing the offensive style certainly gives him an advantage but the offense knowing Neff's style gives them an advantage as well.
All in all I believe that if SoCo can shore up its execution issues on D Friday night will be a very good game.
Justathought
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 01:54PM
Thanks "justathought" - interesting comment. 25 cent question then becomes, how easy do you think it will be to shore up the execution issues 3 days out? Why the continuing execution issues? Bad coaching, irresponsible athletes, etc? My experience is it is difficult to change high school teams midstream, they are what they are but would enjoy hearing other opinions...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
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Date: November 19, 2013 02:18PM
While we are throwing things out there - I am wondering how much difference there really is between Westfield 2011-2012 and 2013.
It is my observation that 2013 is very close to the previous two years - Centreville and Lake Braddock are just a lot better this year than they were in 2011-2012
Unlike a lot of teams Westfield seems to enter the season almost as good as they are going to get. The team is so coached up and well prepared that I don't see a huge jump in performance between game 1 and game 10. A lot of teams don't seem to enter the season that way and improve throughout the year leaving everyone scratching their heads why a 10-0 team keeps getting beat early (well, earlier than expected) in the playoffs. I could be way off but this is an impression that came to mind as I was thinking about it.
It is my observation that 2013 is very close to the previous two years - Centreville and Lake Braddock are just a lot better this year than they were in 2011-2012
Unlike a lot of teams Westfield seems to enter the season almost as good as they are going to get. The team is so coached up and well prepared that I don't see a huge jump in performance between game 1 and game 10. A lot of teams don't seem to enter the season that way and improve throughout the year leaving everyone scratching their heads why a 10-0 team keeps getting beat early (well, earlier than expected) in the playoffs. I could be way off but this is an impression that came to mind as I was thinking about it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 02:25PM
Thanks Rydell for the post. As a CVille fan it pains me but have to give props to Westfield coaching. This year in fact as others have posted they are trying some new things like the wildcat option to get the ball more in the hands of their athletes like Devon Burns, etc.
Just a few things with Westfield this year. Of course they have quality athletes like Burns, Thrasher W, and etc. But you hit it there has been just an explosion of similar or better talent at CVille and Braddock. But there is another thing. I do not see the same overall depth and quality of talent at Westfield this year and coming up as I have seen in the past. 2011 team was very good just got beat by 3 points by a CVille team on a mission to finally beat Westfield and fulfill its own promise. Last year, Oakton just got on a roll and while Westfield was very good not quite as good as 2011 edition. This year they are a very good team, cannot take anything away but they are not a great (CVille) or near great (Lake Braddock) team. We will see what adjustments they make this year and next....
As I said in a post last night to a distraught Oakton fan, history has shown it is hard to keep Concorde teams down for long....and Westfield is not that far down anyway....
Just a few things with Westfield this year. Of course they have quality athletes like Burns, Thrasher W, and etc. But you hit it there has been just an explosion of similar or better talent at CVille and Braddock. But there is another thing. I do not see the same overall depth and quality of talent at Westfield this year and coming up as I have seen in the past. 2011 team was very good just got beat by 3 points by a CVille team on a mission to finally beat Westfield and fulfill its own promise. Last year, Oakton just got on a roll and while Westfield was very good not quite as good as 2011 edition. This year they are a very good team, cannot take anything away but they are not a great (CVille) or near great (Lake Braddock) team. We will see what adjustments they make this year and next....
As I said in a post last night to a distraught Oakton fan, history has shown it is hard to keep Concorde teams down for long....and Westfield is not that far down anyway....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: November 19, 2013 02:27PM
hsfballfan,
I was catching up on the posts I missed last night and this morning, there are definitely many spirited fans on this board. I think that's probably why the thread has been so good, good deal of input from those that have followed their respective schools all season. Catching a little grief comes with the territory on here when you ruffle feathers, fortunately it's all in good fun.
I think most fans of the remaining 7 teams that aren’t named Centreville are clinging to the hope that the post season trend of letdowns will continue. Unlike the past two years though there is a decided difference between the #1 seed and the rest.
I too remember the 2011 Centreville-Westfield regular season game, Centreville definitely dominated the first half but only led 10-0 if I'm not mistaken. I was shaking my head when Centreville opened the second half with that ill advised reverse on the kickoff, scoop and score for Westfield. Turned what could have been a sure victory for Centreville into an awesome game. Heck, if Centreville doesn't fumble the ball on the first play of overtime they would have won.
Sorry, I got off track with my line of reasoning in regard to post season hopes. Guess the point I'm trying to make is unlike the past 2 years where there wasn't a great deal of distance, if any, between the #1 seed and the rest of the field this year there is. Centreville is decidedly a cut above, I could name individual personnel from the other 7 teams that can could match Centreville’s key players. However, the difference is in the second tier players, the non skilled positions.
For example, I remember when Gameday did their big Westfield-Centreville preview earlier this season to hype the game, though none was needed. The video was pairing star for star, i.e. Turner vs. Thrasher-Walker, Tutt vs. Burns, Boose vs. Gray, Walter vs. Scoville, Wiggins vs. Gibson, Nickens-Yzer vs. Moore. Could make a case for each one with the exception of the QB's though I think Scoville gets a little leeway since Westfield does not have him run like Walter does and Westfield is so enamored with the run game that Scoville hasn't had as many opportunities to throw. Of course that could be due to his injury of the throwing shoulder that's been there all year. Though my sources have assured me he's better.
Once again, I've gotten too far from my point, which is if you go down the list of the rest of the starters for both squads, Centreville has the advantage. Does that mean Westfield doesn't have quality players, of course not, heck, their only losses were to the top 2 seeds. What it means is that Centreville just has better quality, some in part to the fact that Centreville returned almost their entire starting line up from last season.
Folks, that just does not happen this day and age either at the high school or college level. There is a great deal to be said for game experience, makes a world of difference especially in the postseason. That's why Centreville has such a sizeable advantage, they have the players but also all those kids were there last year to experience the bitter taste of defeat. I'm sure that's a driving force behind this season, have seen many of Centreville's players mention that this season during interviews.
Once again, just my thoughts and opinion on the subject.
I was catching up on the posts I missed last night and this morning, there are definitely many spirited fans on this board. I think that's probably why the thread has been so good, good deal of input from those that have followed their respective schools all season. Catching a little grief comes with the territory on here when you ruffle feathers, fortunately it's all in good fun.
I think most fans of the remaining 7 teams that aren’t named Centreville are clinging to the hope that the post season trend of letdowns will continue. Unlike the past two years though there is a decided difference between the #1 seed and the rest.
I too remember the 2011 Centreville-Westfield regular season game, Centreville definitely dominated the first half but only led 10-0 if I'm not mistaken. I was shaking my head when Centreville opened the second half with that ill advised reverse on the kickoff, scoop and score for Westfield. Turned what could have been a sure victory for Centreville into an awesome game. Heck, if Centreville doesn't fumble the ball on the first play of overtime they would have won.
Sorry, I got off track with my line of reasoning in regard to post season hopes. Guess the point I'm trying to make is unlike the past 2 years where there wasn't a great deal of distance, if any, between the #1 seed and the rest of the field this year there is. Centreville is decidedly a cut above, I could name individual personnel from the other 7 teams that can could match Centreville’s key players. However, the difference is in the second tier players, the non skilled positions.
For example, I remember when Gameday did their big Westfield-Centreville preview earlier this season to hype the game, though none was needed. The video was pairing star for star, i.e. Turner vs. Thrasher-Walker, Tutt vs. Burns, Boose vs. Gray, Walter vs. Scoville, Wiggins vs. Gibson, Nickens-Yzer vs. Moore. Could make a case for each one with the exception of the QB's though I think Scoville gets a little leeway since Westfield does not have him run like Walter does and Westfield is so enamored with the run game that Scoville hasn't had as many opportunities to throw. Of course that could be due to his injury of the throwing shoulder that's been there all year. Though my sources have assured me he's better.
Once again, I've gotten too far from my point, which is if you go down the list of the rest of the starters for both squads, Centreville has the advantage. Does that mean Westfield doesn't have quality players, of course not, heck, their only losses were to the top 2 seeds. What it means is that Centreville just has better quality, some in part to the fact that Centreville returned almost their entire starting line up from last season.
Folks, that just does not happen this day and age either at the high school or college level. There is a great deal to be said for game experience, makes a world of difference especially in the postseason. That's why Centreville has such a sizeable advantage, they have the players but also all those kids were there last year to experience the bitter taste of defeat. I'm sure that's a driving force behind this season, have seen many of Centreville's players mention that this season during interviews.
Once again, just my thoughts and opinion on the subject.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
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Date: November 19, 2013 02:35PM
I hear you Coach. To amplify your point most of the uninitiated will focus on the offensive skill players of CVille and think wow this is a high scoring team. Of course it is. But what has REALLY impressed me this year is the defense. Great athletes up and down the roster, play their game and positions, take appropriate chances, etc. Again I am probably a purist and a bit of an old fogie but defense still wins championships.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: November 19, 2013 02:47PM
"Thanks Rydell for the post. As a CVille fan it pains me but have to give props to Westfield coaching. This year in fact as others have posted they are trying some new things like the wildcat option to get the ball more in the hands of their athletes like Devon Burns, etc.
Just a few things with Westfield this year. Of course they have quality athletes like Burns, Thrasher W, and etc. But you hit it there has been just an explosion of similar or better talent at CVille and Braddock. But there is another thing. I do not see the same overall depth and quality of talent at Westfield this year and coming up as I have seen in the past. 2011 team was very good just got beat by 3 points by a CVille team on a mission to finally beat Westfield and fulfill its own promise. Last year, Oakton just got on a roll and while Westfield was very good not quite as good as 2011 edition. This year they are a very good team, cannot take anything away but they are not a great (CVille) or near great (Lake Braddock) team. We will see what adjustments they make this year and next....
As I said in a post last night to a distraught Oakton fan, history has shown it is hard to keep Concorde teams down for long....and Westfield is not that far down anyway...."
Actually the defense at Westfield is far better than last years, primarily the front 7 or 8 depending on what look they are in. The D line is a little bigger than last years, little more physical. The big difference is the play of the MLB's. As previously posted the Clancy kid is a heat seeking missile, always seems to find the ball. Mcnulty, who currently is out but supposed to be back this week from a broken leg he suffered against Centreville, is solid, tall lanky kid who also plays rugby. The other MLB filling in for Mcnulty is Gardner, transfer from South Riding area I think, he is the fastest of the 3 and hits hard too. The OLB, Rogers, and safeties’ Gibson and Moore are essentially the same, Rice at CB but he played last year.
The difference from the last 2 seasons for Westfield is offense, especially compared to last year. The QB was Mullins, he outdueled Henderson in their meeting last season, big strong kid that could huck the ball. The OL was also more experienced, and a wee bit better. All the skill position players like Thrasher-Walker, Gray, and Burns were major contributors last year as well.
The big problem Westfield has had is getting the ball in the hands of Burns, probably why they've been experimenting with the WIldcat. He is a phenomenal athlete, I've heard Cincinnati, Maryland, Tennessee, and a few others are looking at him.
I also don't think I would use the word "down" to refer to Westfield, heck, they went 8-2, are the #3 seed, and lost to Centreville and Lake Braddock while playing a pretty tough schedule. I think most programs would love to have that type of a "down" season.
However, I will agree with hsfballfan and RydellRoad, Centreville and Lake Braddock have definitely improved over last season. Centreville's mainly due to experience and reps as I stated in my previous post.
Just a few things with Westfield this year. Of course they have quality athletes like Burns, Thrasher W, and etc. But you hit it there has been just an explosion of similar or better talent at CVille and Braddock. But there is another thing. I do not see the same overall depth and quality of talent at Westfield this year and coming up as I have seen in the past. 2011 team was very good just got beat by 3 points by a CVille team on a mission to finally beat Westfield and fulfill its own promise. Last year, Oakton just got on a roll and while Westfield was very good not quite as good as 2011 edition. This year they are a very good team, cannot take anything away but they are not a great (CVille) or near great (Lake Braddock) team. We will see what adjustments they make this year and next....
As I said in a post last night to a distraught Oakton fan, history has shown it is hard to keep Concorde teams down for long....and Westfield is not that far down anyway...."
Actually the defense at Westfield is far better than last years, primarily the front 7 or 8 depending on what look they are in. The D line is a little bigger than last years, little more physical. The big difference is the play of the MLB's. As previously posted the Clancy kid is a heat seeking missile, always seems to find the ball. Mcnulty, who currently is out but supposed to be back this week from a broken leg he suffered against Centreville, is solid, tall lanky kid who also plays rugby. The other MLB filling in for Mcnulty is Gardner, transfer from South Riding area I think, he is the fastest of the 3 and hits hard too. The OLB, Rogers, and safeties’ Gibson and Moore are essentially the same, Rice at CB but he played last year.
The difference from the last 2 seasons for Westfield is offense, especially compared to last year. The QB was Mullins, he outdueled Henderson in their meeting last season, big strong kid that could huck the ball. The OL was also more experienced, and a wee bit better. All the skill position players like Thrasher-Walker, Gray, and Burns were major contributors last year as well.
The big problem Westfield has had is getting the ball in the hands of Burns, probably why they've been experimenting with the WIldcat. He is a phenomenal athlete, I've heard Cincinnati, Maryland, Tennessee, and a few others are looking at him.
I also don't think I would use the word "down" to refer to Westfield, heck, they went 8-2, are the #3 seed, and lost to Centreville and Lake Braddock while playing a pretty tough schedule. I think most programs would love to have that type of a "down" season.
However, I will agree with hsfballfan and RydellRoad, Centreville and Lake Braddock have definitely improved over last season. Centreville's mainly due to experience and reps as I stated in my previous post.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 02:52PM
Of course "down" is a relative concept, but that is the beauty of some of these programs like Wfield, CVille, Braddock, etc. - they expect to be good which is the first step....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 19, 2013 02:53PM
"I hear you Coach. To amplify your point most of the uninitiated will focus on the offensive skill players of CVille and think wow this is a high scoring team. Of course it is. But what has REALLY impressed me this year is the defense. Great athletes up and down the roster, play their game and positions, take appropriate chances, etc. Again I am probably a purist and a bit of an old fogie but defense still wins championships."
Couldn't agree more, doesn't matter how electrifying your offense is, defensive performances, especially in the postseason, are what championships are made of. Look at last year, Westfield lost to Oakton because the Oakton coaching staff changed their DEFENSE up going into the post season. The offense was the same, they just took a couple of their offensive studs, Kyle Downer for one, and put them on the defensive side of the ball. Westfield scored 28 points on Oakton in the regular season last year, 16 in the region championship. If Westfield scores 28 they win, that was the difference!
Couldn't agree more, doesn't matter how electrifying your offense is, defensive performances, especially in the postseason, are what championships are made of. Look at last year, Westfield lost to Oakton because the Oakton coaching staff changed their DEFENSE up going into the post season. The offense was the same, they just took a couple of their offensive studs, Kyle Downer for one, and put them on the defensive side of the ball. Westfield scored 28 points on Oakton in the regular season last year, 16 in the region championship. If Westfield scores 28 they win, that was the difference!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 03:03PM
Calling all other teams left in the D6 or heck D5 playoffs - tell us what you think about upcoming games. Have heard a little from Braddock fans not much, almost nothing from Langley, nothing from Robinson, etc. Cannot expect SJackson fans to be looking on a Fairfax Underground site although I might to see if I could get some tips on upcoming competition.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BruinFan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 03:30PM
I actually think Robinson will beat Westfield on Friday by a couple of TDs. Just a gut feeling. Robinson is playing really well and is healthy now. Havn't been impressed with Westfield at all this year. Over-rated.
This will set up a Ram/Bruin game the next week - which will be the better game because of the rivalry between the two, but I see Robinson losing that one.
This will set up a Ram/Bruin game the next week - which will be the better game because of the rivalry between the two, but I see Robinson losing that one.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 19, 2013 03:57PM
BruinFan Wrote:
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> I actually think Robinson will beat Westfield on
> Friday by a couple of TDs. Just a gut feeling.
> Robinson is playing really well and is healthy
> now. Havn't been impressed with Westfield at all
> this year. Over-rated.
I can see why you think that - I mentioned before a Robinson win would not surprise me. If you look at Westfield's 5 toughest games (Lake Braddock, Stone Bridge, Centreville, Robinson, Chantilly) they were outscored 92-88 while going 3-2.
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> I actually think Robinson will beat Westfield on
> Friday by a couple of TDs. Just a gut feeling.
> Robinson is playing really well and is healthy
> now. Havn't been impressed with Westfield at all
> this year. Over-rated.
I can see why you think that - I mentioned before a Robinson win would not surprise me. If you look at Westfield's 5 toughest games (Lake Braddock, Stone Bridge, Centreville, Robinson, Chantilly) they were outscored 92-88 while going 3-2.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 03:59PM
Great finally someone else chiming in (smile). What is the feeling amongst Lake Braddock fans given the unfortunate losses on the line this past week including Lomax?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:00PM
"I actually think Robinson will beat Westfield on Friday by a couple of TDs. Just a gut feeling. Robinson is playing really well and is healthy now. Havn't been impressed with Westfield at all this year. Over-rated.
This will set up a Ram/Bruin game the next week - which will be the better game because of the rivalry between the two, but I see Robinson losing that one"
BruinFan,
Actually Joe Wilson is not 100% healthy, I think he only had 12 carries this past Friday night against Patriot. In terms of health, I know the first game between Robinson-Westfield was 14-13 but there are a couple factors there that my friends on Westfield's staff had passed along to me. Apparently Burns returned the opening kickoff for a TD that was called back on a block in the back that apparently never showed up on film. Also, 6 starters on defense for Westfield were out, 2 DT's, 1 DE, both MLB's, and 1 S, that's huge. As a matter of fact even Lake Braddock's head coach, Poythress, mentioned that in his Washington Post top 20 list when commenting on his ranking of Westfield following their narrow victory over Robinson.
I also don't want to ruffle your feathers but I watched the game film from the Westfield-Lake Braddock game, seems like that was a pretty close game. Game winning TD came with under 2 minutes to go, heck, Westfield was driving late but QB had an errant throw that turned into an INT about Lake Braddock's 15 yard line with 20 some seconds to go. Let's also not forget about the TD pass a wide open Westfield receiver dropped just before half on 3rd down, missed field goal on the ensuing down. And the elephant in the room is the INT that Henderson threw just before the game winning TD, ruled an incompletion on the field but the film and a still photo from someone on the sideline clearly showed it was a pick. That would have ended the game right there since there was about 1:42 to go and Lake Braddock either was out of timeouts or only had one left.
And to my hsfballfan, once again, I am not a Westfield fan. However, since I coached against them this year I did see enough film to know a few things, hence my knowledge. I just merely was attempting to offer some factual information to determine what exactly the BruinFan meant when stating he "hadn't been impressed with Westfield all year".
BruinFan, please don't think I'm picking on you either, I just was confused by your comment. Especially since the only close call Lake Braddock had this year was to Westfield!
This will set up a Ram/Bruin game the next week - which will be the better game because of the rivalry between the two, but I see Robinson losing that one"
BruinFan,
Actually Joe Wilson is not 100% healthy, I think he only had 12 carries this past Friday night against Patriot. In terms of health, I know the first game between Robinson-Westfield was 14-13 but there are a couple factors there that my friends on Westfield's staff had passed along to me. Apparently Burns returned the opening kickoff for a TD that was called back on a block in the back that apparently never showed up on film. Also, 6 starters on defense for Westfield were out, 2 DT's, 1 DE, both MLB's, and 1 S, that's huge. As a matter of fact even Lake Braddock's head coach, Poythress, mentioned that in his Washington Post top 20 list when commenting on his ranking of Westfield following their narrow victory over Robinson.
I also don't want to ruffle your feathers but I watched the game film from the Westfield-Lake Braddock game, seems like that was a pretty close game. Game winning TD came with under 2 minutes to go, heck, Westfield was driving late but QB had an errant throw that turned into an INT about Lake Braddock's 15 yard line with 20 some seconds to go. Let's also not forget about the TD pass a wide open Westfield receiver dropped just before half on 3rd down, missed field goal on the ensuing down. And the elephant in the room is the INT that Henderson threw just before the game winning TD, ruled an incompletion on the field but the film and a still photo from someone on the sideline clearly showed it was a pick. That would have ended the game right there since there was about 1:42 to go and Lake Braddock either was out of timeouts or only had one left.
And to my hsfballfan, once again, I am not a Westfield fan. However, since I coached against them this year I did see enough film to know a few things, hence my knowledge. I just merely was attempting to offer some factual information to determine what exactly the BruinFan meant when stating he "hadn't been impressed with Westfield all year".
BruinFan, please don't think I'm picking on you either, I just was confused by your comment. Especially since the only close call Lake Braddock had this year was to Westfield!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:03PM
Coach I don't care if you like Westfield or not, just happy to have some additional quality analysis on this site...!!! :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:07PM
"I can see why you think that - I mentioned before a Robinson win would not surprise me. If you look at Westfield's 5 toughest games (Lake Braddock, Stone Bridge, Centreville, Robinson, Chantilly) they were outscored 92-88 while going 3-2."
Yes, but that is pretty misleading when you consider Westfield beat Stone Bridge by 25 and lost to Braddock by only 4. I think I covered the Robinson game in my previous post. Chantilly game was close but they always are regardless of either teams records year in and year out. Then of course the 28 point loss to Centreville is what skews the numbers, but heck, who hasn't lost to the Wildcats by a large margin, no one that's who....
Yes, but that is pretty misleading when you consider Westfield beat Stone Bridge by 25 and lost to Braddock by only 4. I think I covered the Robinson game in my previous post. Chantilly game was close but they always are regardless of either teams records year in and year out. Then of course the 28 point loss to Centreville is what skews the numbers, but heck, who hasn't lost to the Wildcats by a large margin, no one that's who....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:23PM
Robinson will put up a reasonable fight against Westfield but think Westfield will win by about 10....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:29PM
Coach Wrote:
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> Actually Joe Wilson is not 100% healthy, I think
> he only had 12 carries this past Friday night
> against Patriot.
WP has him at 23 carries for 113 yard vs. Patriot.
> the elephant in the room is the INT that
> Henderson threw just before the game winning TD,
> ruled an incompletion on the field but the film
> and a still photo from someone on the sideline
> clearly showed it was a pick.
Sorta reminds me of another bad call against Westfield in a big game in 2011 on a crucial 4th down where a bounce pass was inexplicably ruled a complete pass.
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> Actually Joe Wilson is not 100% healthy, I think
> he only had 12 carries this past Friday night
> against Patriot.
WP has him at 23 carries for 113 yard vs. Patriot.
> the elephant in the room is the INT that
> Henderson threw just before the game winning TD,
> ruled an incompletion on the field but the film
> and a still photo from someone on the sideline
> clearly showed it was a pick.
Sorta reminds me of another bad call against Westfield in a big game in 2011 on a crucial 4th down where a bounce pass was inexplicably ruled a complete pass.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:32PM
Sorry but CVille won that one fair and square, some bad calls on both ends - look at the tape again....full game in fact on youtube
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:35PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Robinson will put up a reasonable fight against
> Westfield but think Westfield will win by about
> 10....
Not sure about that, I have watched Robinson play the last few weeks and have seen remarkable improvements in the run game and their passing game. Endi Akerman is playing well, and now Shaq is healthy will help them a lot. Joe Wilson is much healthier and finally getting his legs back. Their third back is getting much more confident. Jack Rowlett is passing better but will need to be on to give them an edge. Lake Braddock losing those two starters will really hurt any chances of beating teams over the next weeks. I did hear they are trying Antonellis at DE. Centreville is a really good team and on paper should beat SOCO by a good margin, but SOCO is a scrappy team and will put a a lot of hard hits on players. As mentioned, I do believe Cent will be put to task physically and hope players do not get hurt from it. Yorktown will give LB a good game but don't think they are on point to win. Never know though. LB may get a surge from playing in honor for the hurt players. I too would like to see LB and Robinson play again, but Westfield is first.
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> Robinson will put up a reasonable fight against
> Westfield but think Westfield will win by about
> 10....
Not sure about that, I have watched Robinson play the last few weeks and have seen remarkable improvements in the run game and their passing game. Endi Akerman is playing well, and now Shaq is healthy will help them a lot. Joe Wilson is much healthier and finally getting his legs back. Their third back is getting much more confident. Jack Rowlett is passing better but will need to be on to give them an edge. Lake Braddock losing those two starters will really hurt any chances of beating teams over the next weeks. I did hear they are trying Antonellis at DE. Centreville is a really good team and on paper should beat SOCO by a good margin, but SOCO is a scrappy team and will put a a lot of hard hits on players. As mentioned, I do believe Cent will be put to task physically and hope players do not get hurt from it. Yorktown will give LB a good game but don't think they are on point to win. Never know though. LB may get a surge from playing in honor for the hurt players. I too would like to see LB and Robinson play again, but Westfield is first.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:39PM
I agree Braddock will likely beat Ytown but do not sleep on the latter if MJ Stewart plays....could be a lot closer than people think.
And also where is this SOCO hurting people with their tackles coming from. In the 2 games I saw them on person, then an additional one on film they did not look so bruising....what am I missing?
And also where is this SOCO hurting people with their tackles coming from. In the 2 games I saw them on person, then an additional one on film they did not look so bruising....what am I missing?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:40PM
Even though I think Centreville would have beat Westfield anyway, the rain took any chance that they had to make it close. Westfield needed the passing game to be competitive. I do however think if they played now the game would be closer.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:42PM
Coach Wrote:
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> Actually Joe Wilson is not 100% healthy, I think
> he only had 12 carries this past Friday night
> against Patriot.
WP has him at 23 carries for 113 yard vs. Patriot
RydellRoad,
Wow, I stand corrected, I'll have to watch that film tonight to see, guess my source was wrong. I wasn't going to mention the "bounce pass" in my thread when talking about Westfield's failure over the past 2 postseasons. Didn't want to upset my new friend hsfballfan:)
Unfortunately there will always be bad calls, too bad we didn't get to use instant replay. I have actually seen some coaching staffs this past season using Ipads on the sidelines. They use them as the pro's use still photos for sets and formations. Whatever happened to the good old dry erase boards?
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> Actually Joe Wilson is not 100% healthy, I think
> he only had 12 carries this past Friday night
> against Patriot.
WP has him at 23 carries for 113 yard vs. Patriot
RydellRoad,
Wow, I stand corrected, I'll have to watch that film tonight to see, guess my source was wrong. I wasn't going to mention the "bounce pass" in my thread when talking about Westfield's failure over the past 2 postseasons. Didn't want to upset my new friend hsfballfan:)
Unfortunately there will always be bad calls, too bad we didn't get to use instant replay. I have actually seen some coaching staffs this past season using Ipads on the sidelines. They use them as the pro's use still photos for sets and formations. Whatever happened to the good old dry erase boards?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:42PM
we talking 2011 or 2013??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 04:46PM
the way I look at any miscues in the 2011 NR finals that perhaps went CVille's way was the football gods making up for the blown call on Manny Smith fumble in rain in regular season game against Westfield that year....look at that tape, his knee is clearly down before the fumble.....
Plus (and I will get a bit snarky now) Westfield needed its comeuppance esp against Centreville in 2011....
Plus (and I will get a bit snarky now) Westfield needed its comeuppance esp against Centreville in 2011....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bruinfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 06:49PM
I'll stick with my earlier prediction. Robinson will take this one. Then we'll see how hungry they are when they play LB.
As hard as it is for me to give the Rams props - I just hate doing it- theres no way Westfield can hang with them this weekend. From what I'm hearing, they are on fire for this game.
Rams want a shot at LB again and they will run right over Westfield to get it.
As hard as it is for me to give the Rams props - I just hate doing it- theres no way Westfield can hang with them this weekend. From what I'm hearing, they are on fire for this game.
Rams want a shot at LB again and they will run right over Westfield to get it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco
()
Date: November 19, 2013 07:11PM
Soco scrimmaged stonewall in preseason FYI
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 19, 2013 08:18PM
How did the SOCO Stonewall scrimmage turn out?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCo
()
Date: November 19, 2013 08:24PM
Soco won 21-7. Defense did a great job of containing stromam only gave up one long bomb that went for a score. Offense did great, both qbs looked good, rbs were amazing, overall a great performance by soco.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco
()
Date: November 19, 2013 08:26PM
And symmes played only the 1st half of the 1st quarter
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitRealll
()
Date: November 19, 2013 11:26PM
After seeing film on all of these teams except 1 its got to be:
CVille
Braddock
South County
Robinson
Westfield
Langley
Stonewall
Yorktown
CVille
Braddock
South County
Robinson
Westfield
Langley
Stonewall
Yorktown
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nova football
()
Date: November 20, 2013 01:54AM
KeepitReal Wrote:
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> Even though I think Centreville would have beat
> Westfield anyway, the rain took any chance that
> they had to make it close. Westfield needed the
> passing game to be competitive. I do however
> think if they played now the game would be closer.
Centreville wins by a bigger margin if there was good weather that night. Centrevilles passing game behind Walter is much more dynamic then Westfield. I really hope Westfield plays Centreville for the State Semi. Then we can put issues like this to bed.
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> Even though I think Centreville would have beat
> Westfield anyway, the rain took any chance that
> they had to make it close. Westfield needed the
> passing game to be competitive. I do however
> think if they played now the game would be closer.
Centreville wins by a bigger margin if there was good weather that night. Centrevilles passing game behind Walter is much more dynamic then Westfield. I really hope Westfield plays Centreville for the State Semi. Then we can put issues like this to bed.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
?????????????????????
()
Date: November 20, 2013 09:33AM
why did pannoni leave cville?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOS!
()
Date: November 20, 2013 09:34AM
who will win
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:07PM
????????????????????? Wrote:
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> why did pannoni leave cville?
I think the kids and parents had enough of the neanderthal method. From what I heard, pretty much pushed out.
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> why did pannoni leave cville?
I think the kids and parents had enough of the neanderthal method. From what I heard, pretty much pushed out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
.......
()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:12PM
Rumor has it that #74 and #81 from soco won't be playing this Friday due to injuries during practice
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
old school fan
()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:25PM
Centreville kids were soft his last year tough kids come in cycles in general old school coaches and soft or semi soft kids dont mix dont get me wrong there are a few super soft kids atevery school occaisionally the mix of tough to soft leans towards soft and the coach has to scale back or move on Just an opinion I could be wrong tough old school canstill work but you have to win almost every year for kids and parents to endure it. Lose a couple season s and they want you out kis will tolerate a lot if they know you care and tough old school coaches have to ensure the kids know you really care
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What U talkin bout willis
()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:42PM
Posted by: ....... ()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:12PM
Rumor has it that #74 and #81 from soco won't be playing this Friday due to injuries during practice
Also #4, #77, #5, #61, #11, #25, #20, #44, #6, #8 amd #22
Date: November 20, 2013 12:12PM
Rumor has it that #74 and #81 from soco won't be playing this Friday due to injuries during practice
Also #4, #77, #5, #61, #11, #25, #20, #44, #6, #8 amd #22
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
.......
()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:53PM
That is faulse information, and I just got confirmation that 81 injured his neck and 74 has a sprain foot
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Lake Henderson
()
Date: November 20, 2013 12:54PM
Lake braddock is going to roll over yorktown with out a doubt, hendo is just too good. He is a beast, no one is more unstoppable than my son.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Azamat Matuev Nurlan Murphy
()
Date: November 20, 2013 01:00PM
I love my sisters. Deena and Donna are the best.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Azamat Murphy
()
Date: November 20, 2013 01:05PM
Seeman has been all over the field lately, he has been immaculate the past few games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Kevin Quigley
()
Date: November 20, 2013 01:43PM
Imma boss ass bitch! Yesth!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
John Pionzio the Third (JP3)
()
Date: November 20, 2013 01:46PM
Magacky!!! Why don't I play?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
David Symmes
()
Date: November 20, 2013 02:03PM
JP3 should start over me. Yesth!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Colin stone
()
Date: November 20, 2013 03:12PM
I want respect!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Serious
()
Date: November 20, 2013 07:38PM
Let's please get back on topic. Is Langley good? I've seen SJ, but have no idea on Langley. Also, I believe everyone is sleeping on soco there strength on D is stopping the run, which is centrevilles bread and butter. Also, the offense is so explosive that there is no way to stop it unless penalties hold them back. Thoughts?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
...
()
Date: November 20, 2013 07:39PM
Yea I've heard that 81 and 74 are not playing
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
()
Date: November 20, 2013 07:51PM
Serious Wrote:
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> Also, believe everyone is sleeping on soco there
> strength on D is stopping the run, which is
> centrevilles bread and butter.
LB ran for more than 300 yards against South County. TC broke big running plays against them in both meetings. It will be interesting to see what happens when SC has the ball, but Centreville is going to score on them at will.
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> Also, believe everyone is sleeping on soco there
> strength on D is stopping the run, which is
> centrevilles bread and butter.
LB ran for more than 300 yards against South County. TC broke big running plays against them in both meetings. It will be interesting to see what happens when SC has the ball, but Centreville is going to score on them at will.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 20, 2013 08:00PM
"Let's please get back on topic. Is Langley good? I've seen SJ, but have no idea on Langley. Also, I believe everyone is sleeping on soco there strength on D is stopping the run, which is centrevilles bread and butter. Also, the offense is so explosive that there is no way to stop it unless penalties hold them back. Thoughts?"
Serious,
I don't know if you've seen Centreville play this year but they can certainly throw if they need to. They just haven't had to because no one can stop their running game. In regard to Centreville's defense they are every bit as good as advertised. They have had absolutely no problem stopping anyone's offense. They are stout against the run and have Tutt and Turner as there main cover guys who are absolute blankets in coverage. The WR from Westfield has 4.35 speed, they actually played press coverage against him, their Adan's are that fast. Their pass rush is pretty impressive too, opposing QB's usually don't get much time in the pocket.
Please also believe this, I am not a fan, nothing would make me happier to see Centreville lose. Unfortunately I think the only team that has a chance is a beach school, most probably Oscar Smith.
Serious,
I don't know if you've seen Centreville play this year but they can certainly throw if they need to. They just haven't had to because no one can stop their running game. In regard to Centreville's defense they are every bit as good as advertised. They have had absolutely no problem stopping anyone's offense. They are stout against the run and have Tutt and Turner as there main cover guys who are absolute blankets in coverage. The WR from Westfield has 4.35 speed, they actually played press coverage against him, their Adan's are that fast. Their pass rush is pretty impressive too, opposing QB's usually don't get much time in the pocket.
Please also believe this, I am not a fan, nothing would make me happier to see Centreville lose. Unfortunately I think the only team that has a chance is a beach school, most probably Oscar Smith.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 20, 2013 08:07PM
Sorry, in my previous post I meant to say their DB's are fast but somehow autocorrect turned it into "Adan's are that fast".
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
spartan2103200
()
Date: November 20, 2013 09:08PM
Who has Centreville played that has a viable passing attack?
Herndon? Westfield? TC?
LB offense is very different then any Centreville has seen this year.
You can say whatever you want about the teams they have played, but overall I think the region as a whole is down. Chantilly game was never close.
They played Westfield early and have made changes since.
QB Henderson 1800 yards 23 Tds UNC Recruit
LB has 2 6'4 receivers Antonellis/Alexander who are very physical and both have very good speed. One is a a junior, the other is a senior. Both are being highly recruited as D1 players. 60 catches 12 Tds between them. Alexander maybe one of the top juniors in the country. will presents match up problems for everyone.
The other is 6'2 senior Sica who has 30 catches 9 TDs and has started since his frosh year. He is also being recruited at the 1AA level.Very good receiver
The other is a speedy sophomore churchill with 12 catches 2 Tds this season.
Between those 4 over 100 catches 23 Tds.
Between Obrien, Lee and Henderson over 2300 yard rushing and 38 Tds
LB has a balanced attack and can run and throw with anyone in this region.
Herndon? Westfield? TC?
LB offense is very different then any Centreville has seen this year.
You can say whatever you want about the teams they have played, but overall I think the region as a whole is down. Chantilly game was never close.
They played Westfield early and have made changes since.
QB Henderson 1800 yards 23 Tds UNC Recruit
LB has 2 6'4 receivers Antonellis/Alexander who are very physical and both have very good speed. One is a a junior, the other is a senior. Both are being highly recruited as D1 players. 60 catches 12 Tds between them. Alexander maybe one of the top juniors in the country. will presents match up problems for everyone.
The other is 6'2 senior Sica who has 30 catches 9 TDs and has started since his frosh year. He is also being recruited at the 1AA level.Very good receiver
The other is a speedy sophomore churchill with 12 catches 2 Tds this season.
Between those 4 over 100 catches 23 Tds.
Between Obrien, Lee and Henderson over 2300 yard rushing and 38 Tds
LB has a balanced attack and can run and throw with anyone in this region.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VA Sports
()
Date: November 20, 2013 09:11PM
Just a random spectator,
any thoughts on who the best kicker/punter is in the Northern Region?
any thoughts on who the best kicker/punter is in the Northern Region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 20, 2013 09:34PM
Overall Cory Huddelston for LB is the best. Can do all three and has scored 2 TD's plus consistently puts KO's in endzone
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really?
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Date: November 20, 2013 09:59PM
No doubt Cory Huddlestone
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really?
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Date: November 20, 2013 09:59PM
No doubt Cory Huddlestone
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really?
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Date: November 20, 2013 09:59PM
No doubt Cory Huddlestone
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
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Date: November 20, 2013 10:26PM
SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have nothing to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough if its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In contrast, Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB in the 2nd half of the NR final before losing big. Its passing game is now mediocre, making it tough for Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team struggled to beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got beat by WL in reg season for the first time in 30 years. So it seems like SoCo has a much better chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure what to make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the way C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and Chantilly is impressive.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bad News for LB
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Date: November 20, 2013 10:31PM
spartan2103200 Wrote:
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> Who has Centreville played that has a viable
> passing attack?
> Herndon? Westfield? TC?
>
> LB offense is very different then any Centreville
> has seen this year.
>
> You can say whatever you want about the teams they
> have played, but overall I think the region as a
> whole is down. Chantilly game was never close.
> They played Westfield early and have made changes
> since.
>
> QB Henderson 1800 yards 23 Tds UNC Recruit
>
> LB has 2 6'4 receivers Antonellis/Alexander who
> are very physical and both have very good speed.
> One is a a junior, the other is a senior. Both are
> being highly recruited as D1 players. 60 catches
> 12 Tds between them. Alexander maybe one of the
> top juniors in the country. will presents match up
> problems for everyone.
>
> The other is 6'2 senior Sica who has 30 catches 9
> TDs and has started since his frosh year. He is
> also being recruited at the 1AA level.Very good
> receiver
>
> The other is a speedy sophomore churchill with 12
> catches 2 Tds this season.
>
> Between those 4 over 100 catches 23 Tds.
>
> Between Obrien, Lee and Henderson over 2300 yard
> rushing and 38 Tds
>
> LB has a balanced attack and can run and throw
> with anyone in this region.
That shouldn't be a problem for Cville. Their entire secondary runs 4.4/4.5 forty's (Turner, Nickens-Yzer, Tutt, Heiner) so they'll be able to keep up with LB's receivers. Again, Turner and Tutt will match up against anyone on the outside and if they try and go across the middle, look out for #4. I heard the coaches wanted him to change his number to 21 because he hits like Sean Taylor. lol
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> Who has Centreville played that has a viable
> passing attack?
> Herndon? Westfield? TC?
>
> LB offense is very different then any Centreville
> has seen this year.
>
> You can say whatever you want about the teams they
> have played, but overall I think the region as a
> whole is down. Chantilly game was never close.
> They played Westfield early and have made changes
> since.
>
> QB Henderson 1800 yards 23 Tds UNC Recruit
>
> LB has 2 6'4 receivers Antonellis/Alexander who
> are very physical and both have very good speed.
> One is a a junior, the other is a senior. Both are
> being highly recruited as D1 players. 60 catches
> 12 Tds between them. Alexander maybe one of the
> top juniors in the country. will presents match up
> problems for everyone.
>
> The other is 6'2 senior Sica who has 30 catches 9
> TDs and has started since his frosh year. He is
> also being recruited at the 1AA level.Very good
> receiver
>
> The other is a speedy sophomore churchill with 12
> catches 2 Tds this season.
>
> Between those 4 over 100 catches 23 Tds.
>
> Between Obrien, Lee and Henderson over 2300 yard
> rushing and 38 Tds
>
> LB has a balanced attack and can run and throw
> with anyone in this region.
That shouldn't be a problem for Cville. Their entire secondary runs 4.4/4.5 forty's (Turner, Nickens-Yzer, Tutt, Heiner) so they'll be able to keep up with LB's receivers. Again, Turner and Tutt will match up against anyone on the outside and if they try and go across the middle, look out for #4. I heard the coaches wanted him to change his number to 21 because he hits like Sean Taylor. lol
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
toronto #2
()
Date: November 20, 2013 10:54PM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have nothing
> to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough if
> its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In contrast,
> Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that
> crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB in the
> 2nd half of the NR final before losing big. Its
> passing game is now mediocre, making it tough for
> Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team struggled to
> beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got beat
> by WL in reg season for the first time in 30
> years. So it seems like SoCo has a much better
> chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does
> Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled
> every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most
> likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure what to
> make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the way
> C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> Chantilly is impressive.
I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss against W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game between two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn good season, surprising everyone by winning the district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and with Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get interesting against LB.
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> SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have nothing
> to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough if
> its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In contrast,
> Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that
> crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB in the
> 2nd half of the NR final before losing big. Its
> passing game is now mediocre, making it tough for
> Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team struggled to
> beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got beat
> by WL in reg season for the first time in 30
> years. So it seems like SoCo has a much better
> chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does
> Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled
> every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most
> likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure what to
> make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the way
> C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> Chantilly is impressive.
I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss against W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game between two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn good season, surprising everyone by winning the district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and with Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get interesting against LB.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ummm
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:28AM
Just saying but if soco could shut down aj Alexander then centerville can defiantly do it
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:51AM
Hey all, good to see some of the more serious commenters got online again last night. After seeing the drivel yesterday afternoon I sort of gave up for the day (smile). Catching up on a few points -
* The best kicker I have seen this year is from Lake Braddock, consistently put his kickoffs in the end zone.
* People assume that since CVille is a run team first that it plods along. What is difficult for other teams though is their overall team speed on O and D. That coupled with considerable stoutness on the lines and good scheming and you have a damn good team. Plus as Coach said they can pass too, both play action and just pure send out three WRs.
* SOCO will score a few touchdowns against them but will have difficulty holding Cville to less than 40 points. I am thinking something of the order of 41-17.
* Think Braddock will beat Yorktown but if Stewart plays might be closer than people think. I am going with 45-27.
* While I am at it, I think Langley will do enough to at least slow Stroman down and of course run like crazy themselves and beat SJ by about 7-10 points. I will go with 27-20.
* As previously stated will take Westfield by about 10 over Robinson. Will say 24-14.
What do others think?
* The best kicker I have seen this year is from Lake Braddock, consistently put his kickoffs in the end zone.
* People assume that since CVille is a run team first that it plods along. What is difficult for other teams though is their overall team speed on O and D. That coupled with considerable stoutness on the lines and good scheming and you have a damn good team. Plus as Coach said they can pass too, both play action and just pure send out three WRs.
* SOCO will score a few touchdowns against them but will have difficulty holding Cville to less than 40 points. I am thinking something of the order of 41-17.
* Think Braddock will beat Yorktown but if Stewart plays might be closer than people think. I am going with 45-27.
* While I am at it, I think Langley will do enough to at least slow Stroman down and of course run like crazy themselves and beat SJ by about 7-10 points. I will go with 27-20.
* As previously stated will take Westfield by about 10 over Robinson. Will say 24-14.
What do others think?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
just a question
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Date: November 21, 2013 08:29AM
who do you guys think is the best coach in the northern region?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
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Date: November 21, 2013 08:39AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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>
> * The best kicker I have seen this year is from
> Lake Braddock, consistently put his kickoffs in
> the end zone.
>
Can't argue that the LB kicker is the best (haven't seen him), but would at least like to give props to the Cville kicker who is 63 out of 64 on extra points (bad snap) and 3 for 3 on field goals. It's not often he gets a chance to kick a field goal, so who knows how good he really is. Can't get much better than that on accuracy however. Cville rarely kicks deep, but he can put it at least to the end zone when he has to.
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>
> * The best kicker I have seen this year is from
> Lake Braddock, consistently put his kickoffs in
> the end zone.
>
Can't argue that the LB kicker is the best (haven't seen him), but would at least like to give props to the Cville kicker who is 63 out of 64 on extra points (bad snap) and 3 for 3 on field goals. It's not often he gets a chance to kick a field goal, so who knows how good he really is. Can't get much better than that on accuracy however. Cville rarely kicks deep, but he can put it at least to the end zone when he has to.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Name
()
Date: November 21, 2013 11:54AM
Interesting Wrote:
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > * The best kicker I have seen this year is
> from
> > Lake Braddock, consistently put his kickoffs in
> > the end zone.
> >
>
>
> Can't argue that the LB kicker is the best
> (haven't seen him), but would at least like to
> give props to the Cville kicker who is 63 out of
> 64 on extra points (bad snap) and 3 for 3 on field
> goals. It's not often he gets a chance to kick a
> field goal, so who knows how good he really is.
> Can't get much better than that on accuracy
> however. Cville rarely kicks deep, but he can put
> it at least to the end zone when he has to.
You can't sleep on the SOCO kicker. He has had the most difficult job doing a variety of kickoffs. Interesting to see what Pannoni has in store for him against Cville.
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> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > * The best kicker I have seen this year is
> from
> > Lake Braddock, consistently put his kickoffs in
> > the end zone.
> >
>
>
> Can't argue that the LB kicker is the best
> (haven't seen him), but would at least like to
> give props to the Cville kicker who is 63 out of
> 64 on extra points (bad snap) and 3 for 3 on field
> goals. It's not often he gets a chance to kick a
> field goal, so who knows how good he really is.
> Can't get much better than that on accuracy
> however. Cville rarely kicks deep, but he can put
> it at least to the end zone when he has to.
You can't sleep on the SOCO kicker. He has had the most difficult job doing a variety of kickoffs. Interesting to see what Pannoni has in store for him against Cville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Matchups
()
Date: November 21, 2013 12:22PM
It's the battle of the best offense(soco) and the best defense(centreville) this Friday
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Christian Alvarado
()
Date: November 21, 2013 01:41PM
sorry I forgot to put my name on the second post up ^^
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 21, 2013 02:04PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> * SOCO will score a few touchdowns against them
> but will have difficulty holding Cville to less
> than 40 points. I am thinking something of the
> order of 41-17.
Centreville 49 - Soco 21
South County's defense does not impress. Centreville will score a lot of points.
> * Think Braddock will beat Yorktown but if
> Stewart plays might be closer than people think.
> I am going with 45-27.
LB 29 - Yorktown 13
Patriot vs. National. Patriot Conference has to win right?
> * While I am at it, I think Langley will do
> enough to at least slow Stroman down and of course
> run like crazy themselves and beat SJ by about
> 7-10 points. I will go with 27-20.
Langley 35 - Stonewall 27
Haven't seen either team play.
> * As previously stated will take Westfield by
> about 10 over Robinson. Will say 24-14.
Robinson 21 - Westfield 17
Westfield did not look like they were really that into the Hayfield game - they'll have to step up their game a lot to keep this one close. Something tells me they won't.
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> * SOCO will score a few touchdowns against them
> but will have difficulty holding Cville to less
> than 40 points. I am thinking something of the
> order of 41-17.
Centreville 49 - Soco 21
South County's defense does not impress. Centreville will score a lot of points.
> * Think Braddock will beat Yorktown but if
> Stewart plays might be closer than people think.
> I am going with 45-27.
LB 29 - Yorktown 13
Patriot vs. National. Patriot Conference has to win right?
> * While I am at it, I think Langley will do
> enough to at least slow Stroman down and of course
> run like crazy themselves and beat SJ by about
> 7-10 points. I will go with 27-20.
Langley 35 - Stonewall 27
Haven't seen either team play.
> * As previously stated will take Westfield by
> about 10 over Robinson. Will say 24-14.
Robinson 21 - Westfield 17
Westfield did not look like they were really that into the Hayfield game - they'll have to step up their game a lot to keep this one close. Something tells me they won't.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 02:38PM
Thanks for the thoughts on the scores of the games Rydell Road. And thanks for the analysis supporting your claims.
To the previous poster who simply claimed best offense (SOCO) against best defense (CVille). Well here is the rub, SOCO will play the team with the best defense and the best offense (perhaps only tied on the latter by Braddock). DO not be so enamored by the stats. Of course SOCO has a good offense but it is not the best. SOCO played lesser competition, had to keep the first stringers in a long time each game since the defense was giving up points, etc.
Centreville scored about 35-40 points a game each game by half time and then pulled the 1st string to play 2nd, 3rd, and JV players in the second half. If the first string would have played each game, full game we would be talking games of the order of 60-7 each time (and most were close to that anyway).
Centreville has the best rushing attack in the state and I kid you not have 6-7 players who can run for 100+ yards at anytime. Next they have added a great passing game this year both play action off of the run and straight passing to Tutt, Turner, Heiner, Liddell, others..
I hope for Cville's sake (to be finely tuned for later games) SOCO comes to play. However, SOCO will score much less than it usually does and will give up at least as much as you usually does on defense and most likely more.
To the previous poster who simply claimed best offense (SOCO) against best defense (CVille). Well here is the rub, SOCO will play the team with the best defense and the best offense (perhaps only tied on the latter by Braddock). DO not be so enamored by the stats. Of course SOCO has a good offense but it is not the best. SOCO played lesser competition, had to keep the first stringers in a long time each game since the defense was giving up points, etc.
Centreville scored about 35-40 points a game each game by half time and then pulled the 1st string to play 2nd, 3rd, and JV players in the second half. If the first string would have played each game, full game we would be talking games of the order of 60-7 each time (and most were close to that anyway).
Centreville has the best rushing attack in the state and I kid you not have 6-7 players who can run for 100+ yards at anytime. Next they have added a great passing game this year both play action off of the run and straight passing to Tutt, Turner, Heiner, Liddell, others..
I hope for Cville's sake (to be finely tuned for later games) SOCO comes to play. However, SOCO will score much less than it usually does and will give up at least as much as you usually does on defense and most likely more.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
stat facts
()
Date: November 21, 2013 03:20PM
From hsfballfan: Centreville has the best rushing attack in the state and I kid you not have 6-7 players who can run for 100+ yards at anytime.
I'm not so sure; in looking at Centreville's stats, Robinson held Centreville under 100 yards rushing:
AJ Turner 10-64
Scott Walter 9-31
Centreville basically killed Robinson on a TD punt return and big pass plays.
I'm not so sure; in looking at Centreville's stats, Robinson held Centreville under 100 yards rushing:
AJ Turner 10-64
Scott Walter 9-31
Centreville basically killed Robinson on a TD punt return and big pass plays.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 21, 2013 03:51PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/virginia-6a-football-rivals-westfield-robinson-face-off-centreville-prepares-for-south-county/2013/11/21/a453451c-52c9-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html
Defensive lineman Tyler Sevener is back after missing most of the first contest with an injury and linebacker Connor McNulty is expected to make his first start since injuring his leg in an Oct. 11 loss to Centreville.
South County is averaging nearly 47 points and 358 rushing yards per game, and will look to test a Centreville unit that is still without starting linebacker Tyler Love (shoulder).
Defensive lineman Tyler Sevener is back after missing most of the first contest with an injury and linebacker Connor McNulty is expected to make his first start since injuring his leg in an Oct. 11 loss to Centreville.
South County is averaging nearly 47 points and 358 rushing yards per game, and will look to test a Centreville unit that is still without starting linebacker Tyler Love (shoulder).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RE stat facts
()
Date: November 21, 2013 03:53PM
stat facts Wrote:
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> From hsfballfan: Centreville has the best rushing
> attack in the state and I kid you not have 6-7
> players who can run for 100+ yards at anytime.
>
> I'm not so sure; in looking at Centreville's
> stats, Robinson held Centreville under 100 yards
> rushing:
> AJ Turner 10-64
> Scott Walter 9-31
>
> Centreville basically killed Robinson on a TD punt
> return and big pass plays.
I think what hsfballfan is trying to say is South County has to account for 6-7 players on Cville who are capable of running for 100 yards at any given time. So they cant single out any player. Its pick your poison if you will...
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> From hsfballfan: Centreville has the best rushing
> attack in the state and I kid you not have 6-7
> players who can run for 100+ yards at anytime.
>
> I'm not so sure; in looking at Centreville's
> stats, Robinson held Centreville under 100 yards
> rushing:
> AJ Turner 10-64
> Scott Walter 9-31
>
> Centreville basically killed Robinson on a TD punt
> return and big pass plays.
I think what hsfballfan is trying to say is South County has to account for 6-7 players on Cville who are capable of running for 100 yards at any given time. So they cant single out any player. Its pick your poison if you will...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:10PM
http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1702&tid=168639421&mid=168639421&sid=914&style=2
Take a look at this everyone. Same idea - Virginia Preps, site usually provides sound analysis, predicting a 44-20 win by CVille over SOCO on strength of offense and defense.
Analogy is the KC Denver NFL game this last week. Of course KC was 9-0 but that was built on close wins at the expense of teams like Buffalo, Cleveland, etc. Not exactly Seattle, Denver, NO, NE, etc. KC came in and played fine but Denver's better team exposed KC. I firmly believe based on stats but more important study of the film of both teams and the others in the tourney that CVille will win handily. Do not let stats from previous games get in your way.
And I will say again SOCO last to Chantilly at Chantilly 42-34 while CVille beat Chantilly 44-0 at Chantilly. Nuff said.....
Take a look at this everyone. Same idea - Virginia Preps, site usually provides sound analysis, predicting a 44-20 win by CVille over SOCO on strength of offense and defense.
Analogy is the KC Denver NFL game this last week. Of course KC was 9-0 but that was built on close wins at the expense of teams like Buffalo, Cleveland, etc. Not exactly Seattle, Denver, NO, NE, etc. KC came in and played fine but Denver's better team exposed KC. I firmly believe based on stats but more important study of the film of both teams and the others in the tourney that CVille will win handily. Do not let stats from previous games get in your way.
And I will say again SOCO last to Chantilly at Chantilly 42-34 while CVille beat Chantilly 44-0 at Chantilly. Nuff said.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:19PM
Hey "CVille Student" - you been on these past two days? If you see this post what is the word with Tyler Love, LB at CVille? Are they trying to get him ready for State semis or finals if CVille gets there or are they just shutting him down with the shoulder injury?
Thanks for any insights, you have been so helpful already.
Thanks for any insights, you have been so helpful already.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:32PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey "CVille Student" - you been on these past two
> days? If you see this post what is the word with
> Tyler Love, LB at CVille? Are they trying to get
> him ready for State semis or finals if CVille gets
> there or are they just shutting him down with the
> shoulder injury?
>
> Thanks for any insights, you have been so helpful
> already.
Love was cleared to start working out and practicing earlier this week. He won't be playing against South County; however barring no setbacks, he will be playing again this year.
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> Hey "CVille Student" - you been on these past two
> days? If you see this post what is the word with
> Tyler Love, LB at CVille? Are they trying to get
> him ready for State semis or finals if CVille gets
> there or are they just shutting him down with the
> shoulder injury?
>
> Thanks for any insights, you have been so helpful
> already.
Love was cleared to start working out and practicing earlier this week. He won't be playing against South County; however barring no setbacks, he will be playing again this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:36PM
toronto #2 Wrote:
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> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have
> nothing
> > to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough if
> > its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In
> contrast,
> > Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that
> > crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB in
> the
> > 2nd half of the NR final before losing big. Its
> > passing game is now mediocre, making it tough
> for
> > Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team struggled
> to
> > beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got
> beat
> > by WL in reg season for the first time in 30
> > years. So it seems like SoCo has a much better
> > chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does
> > Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled
> > every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most
> > likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure what
> to
> > make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the way
> > C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> > Chantilly is impressive.
>
> I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss against
> W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game between
> two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn good
> season, surprising everyone by winning the
> district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and with
> Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get
> interesting against LB.
Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry but did not see that game. I did see Yorktown-Chantilly and LB-SoCo and am just not sure what to make of tomorrow's games. Does anybody know if Stewart is playing? If he is then I will go see that game vs trying to cram myself into SoCo-C'Ville.
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> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have
> nothing
> > to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough if
> > its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In
> contrast,
> > Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that
> > crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB in
> the
> > 2nd half of the NR final before losing big. Its
> > passing game is now mediocre, making it tough
> for
> > Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team struggled
> to
> > beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got
> beat
> > by WL in reg season for the first time in 30
> > years. So it seems like SoCo has a much better
> > chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does
> > Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled
> > every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most
> > likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure what
> to
> > make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the way
> > C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> > Chantilly is impressive.
>
> I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss against
> W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game between
> two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn good
> season, surprising everyone by winning the
> district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and with
> Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get
> interesting against LB.
Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry but did not see that game. I did see Yorktown-Chantilly and LB-SoCo and am just not sure what to make of tomorrow's games. Does anybody know if Stewart is playing? If he is then I will go see that game vs trying to cram myself into SoCo-C'Ville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:38PM
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! Thanks for that tip.
Really want to see the best LB corps in the state all intact again (Wiggins, Love, Nickens-Yzer, Behne, etc).....Cville
This is so huge because right now CVille is a great team but if they get Love back it becomes a great (great) team. Why you ask? Because Love is a fantastic anchor linebacker who can secure the middle of the defense allowing Wiggins who of course is also a great middle linebacker to freelance all over the field and spy on Henderson for instance in the likely state semifinals.
Oh baby!
Really want to see the best LB corps in the state all intact again (Wiggins, Love, Nickens-Yzer, Behne, etc).....Cville
This is so huge because right now CVille is a great team but if they get Love back it becomes a great (great) team. Why you ask? Because Love is a fantastic anchor linebacker who can secure the middle of the defense allowing Wiggins who of course is also a great middle linebacker to freelance all over the field and spy on Henderson for instance in the likely state semifinals.
Oh baby!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ytn
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:41PM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> toronto #2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have
> > nothing
> > > to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough
> if
> > > its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In
> > contrast,
> > > Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that
> > > crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB
> in
> > the
> > > 2nd half of the NR final before losing big.
> Its
> > > passing game is now mediocre, making it tough
> > for
> > > Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team
> struggled
> > to
> > > beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got
> > beat
> > > by WL in reg season for the first time in 30
> > > years. So it seems like SoCo has a much
> better
> > > chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does
> > > Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled
> > > every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most
> > > likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure
> what
> > to
> > > make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the
> way
> > > C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> > > Chantilly is impressive.
> >
> > I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss
> against
> > W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game
> between
> > two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn good
> > season, surprising everyone by winning the
> > district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and
> with
> > Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get
> > interesting against LB.
>
> Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry
> but did not see that game. I did see
> Yorktown-Chantilly and LB-SoCo and am just not
> sure what to make of tomorrow's games. Does
> anybody know if Stewart is playing? If he is then
> I will go see that game vs trying to cram myself
> into SoCo-C'Ville.
I've heard that MJ Stewart is in fact playing.
-------------------------------------------------------
> toronto #2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have
> > nothing
> > > to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang tough
> if
> > > its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In
> > contrast,
> > > Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team that
> > > crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB
> in
> > the
> > > 2nd half of the NR final before losing big.
> Its
> > > passing game is now mediocre, making it tough
> > for
> > > Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team
> struggled
> > to
> > > beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly got
> > beat
> > > by WL in reg season for the first time in 30
> > > years. So it seems like SoCo has a much
> better
> > > chance of keeping it close tomorrow than does
> > > Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get felled
> > > every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB most
> > > likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure
> what
> > to
> > > make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the
> way
> > > C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> > > Chantilly is impressive.
> >
> > I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss
> against
> > W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game
> between
> > two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn good
> > season, surprising everyone by winning the
> > district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and
> with
> > Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get
> > interesting against LB.
>
> Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry
> but did not see that game. I did see
> Yorktown-Chantilly and LB-SoCo and am just not
> sure what to make of tomorrow's games. Does
> anybody know if Stewart is playing? If he is then
> I will go see that game vs trying to cram myself
> into SoCo-C'Ville.
I've heard that MJ Stewart is in fact playing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 05:47PM
Braddock beware, MJ Stewart is a game changer, great career at Ytown. Still think Braddock will win but with the unfortunate recent defensive injuries at Braddock Ytown will score plenty.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ytn
()
Date: November 21, 2013 06:30PM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry but did not see that game.
Here's the full video of W-L Yorktown game courtesy of Arlington Independent Media. It was an impressive defensive battle for both teams. The regular season finale between the two schools is always an intense atmosphere and alumni often fly in from out of town to attend, especially this year with the district title on the line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OedlqG3ILOs
-------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry but did not see that game.
Here's the full video of W-L Yorktown game courtesy of Arlington Independent Media. It was an impressive defensive battle for both teams. The regular season finale between the two schools is always an intense atmosphere and alumni often fly in from out of town to attend, especially this year with the district title on the line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OedlqG3ILOs
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 21, 2013 06:47PM
stat facts Wrote:
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> I'm not so sure; in looking at Centreville's
> stats, Robinson held Centreville under 100 yards
> rushing:
> AJ Turner 10-64
> Scott Walter 9-31
>
> Centreville basically killed Robinson on a TD punt
> return and big pass plays.
Centreville ran more than the QB and Turner against Robinson. They had 160 yards on the ground that night. I don't have the individual breakdown, but you're missing yardage from Taylor Boose and Nickens-Yzer. I suspect Chad Wiggins had a few runs as well.
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> I'm not so sure; in looking at Centreville's
> stats, Robinson held Centreville under 100 yards
> rushing:
> AJ Turner 10-64
> Scott Walter 9-31
>
> Centreville basically killed Robinson on a TD punt
> return and big pass plays.
Centreville ran more than the QB and Turner against Robinson. They had 160 yards on the ground that night. I don't have the individual breakdown, but you're missing yardage from Taylor Boose and Nickens-Yzer. I suspect Chad Wiggins had a few runs as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 06:55PM
Thanks "Interesting." That is just the point. If players like AJ Turner or others were on some of the other teams they would have 2000 yards rushing because the other teams would go to them over and over. Football is a team sport folks, that is why CVille is so good this year. They have a very strong, athletic QB (two year starter) who can run and pass, they have 6-7 (or more) quality running backs (led by AJ Turner and Taylor Boose) who all would be starting on most other teams, they have great wide receivers Tutt, Chase Heiner, David Liddell, others, then they have a big OLine to protect everyone. On defense hands down the best LB corps in the state (look at Gameday Mag, Virginia Preps etc they all said it too, then they have Tutt, Turner and other speedy cover guys in the DB backfield. Then they have a 7-8 deep rotation on d line anchored by 280 lb nose tackle and then too athletic, rangy ends in Christian Brooks and Devante Wright.
Folks I keep saying it but stop thinking this is just another team.....it has been discussed on many boards as likely the best to come out of the northern region in upwards of 10 years.
Folks I keep saying it but stop thinking this is just another team.....it has been discussed on many boards as likely the best to come out of the northern region in upwards of 10 years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Veryannoyed
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:03PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Thanks "Interesting." That is just the point. If
> players like AJ Turner or others were on some of
> the other teams they would have 2000 yards rushing
> because the other teams would go to them over and
> over. Football is a team sport folks, that is why
> CVille is so good this year. They have a very
> strong, athletic QB (two year starter) who can run
> and pass, they have 6-7 (or more) quality running
> backs (led by AJ Turner and Taylor Boose) who all
> would be starting on most other teams, they have
> great wide receivers Tutt, Chase Heiner, David
> Liddell, others, then they have a big OLine to
> protect everyone. On defense hands down the best
> LB corps in the state (look at Gameday Mag,
> Virginia Preps etc they all said it too, then they
> have Tutt, Turner and other speedy cover guys in
> the DB backfield. Then they have a 7-8 deep
> rotation on d line anchored by 280 lb nose tackle
> and then too athletic, rangy ends in Christian
> Brooks and Devante Wright.
>
> Folks I keep saying it but stop thinking this is
> just another team.....it has been discussed on
> many boards as likely the best to come out of the
> northern region in upwards of 10 years.
You're such a fucking centreville homer it's ridiculous. Why don't we just hand them the damn trophy already because they're just sooooo good. How about you stop regurgitating the same shit 24/7 and let the kids plays. It's the playoffs. ANYTHING HAPPENS. Especially high school ball. Just my 2 cents, peace.
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> Thanks "Interesting." That is just the point. If
> players like AJ Turner or others were on some of
> the other teams they would have 2000 yards rushing
> because the other teams would go to them over and
> over. Football is a team sport folks, that is why
> CVille is so good this year. They have a very
> strong, athletic QB (two year starter) who can run
> and pass, they have 6-7 (or more) quality running
> backs (led by AJ Turner and Taylor Boose) who all
> would be starting on most other teams, they have
> great wide receivers Tutt, Chase Heiner, David
> Liddell, others, then they have a big OLine to
> protect everyone. On defense hands down the best
> LB corps in the state (look at Gameday Mag,
> Virginia Preps etc they all said it too, then they
> have Tutt, Turner and other speedy cover guys in
> the DB backfield. Then they have a 7-8 deep
> rotation on d line anchored by 280 lb nose tackle
> and then too athletic, rangy ends in Christian
> Brooks and Devante Wright.
>
> Folks I keep saying it but stop thinking this is
> just another team.....it has been discussed on
> many boards as likely the best to come out of the
> northern region in upwards of 10 years.
You're such a fucking centreville homer it's ridiculous. Why don't we just hand them the damn trophy already because they're just sooooo good. How about you stop regurgitating the same shit 24/7 and let the kids plays. It's the playoffs. ANYTHING HAPPENS. Especially high school ball. Just my 2 cents, peace.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:06PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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Then they have a 7-8 deep
> rotation on d line anchored by 280 lb nose tackle
> and then too athletic, rangy ends in Christian
> Brooks and Devante Wright.
I think you meant Jordon Brooks. Christian Brooks is a sophomore along with Junior Sean Culleition that gets in on the rotation, but I believe Jordon and Devante are the starters. Either way, point taken, all studs and all juniors/sophomores
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Then they have a 7-8 deep
> rotation on d line anchored by 280 lb nose tackle
> and then too athletic, rangy ends in Christian
> Brooks and Devante Wright.
I think you meant Jordon Brooks. Christian Brooks is a sophomore along with Junior Sean Culleition that gets in on the rotation, but I believe Jordon and Devante are the starters. Either way, point taken, all studs and all juniors/sophomores
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:11PM
This is a football talk site sorry you are perturbed. I am more than interested to hear alternative opinions based on serious analysis, film study, match ups, etc. What is your opinion?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:14PM
Sorry you are right I stand corrected
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:51PM
ytn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > toronto #2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have
> > > nothing
> > > > to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang
> tough
> > if
> > > > its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In
> > > contrast,
> > > > Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team
> that
> > > > crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB
> > in
> > > the
> > > > 2nd half of the NR final before losing big.
> > Its
> > > > passing game is now mediocre, making it
> tough
> > > for
> > > > Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team
> > struggled
> > > to
> > > > beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly
> got
> > > beat
> > > > by WL in reg season for the first time in
> 30
> > > > years. So it seems like SoCo has a much
> > better
> > > > chance of keeping it close tomorrow than
> does
> > > > Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get
> felled
> > > > every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB
> most
> > > > likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure
> > what
> > > to
> > > > make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the
> > way
> > > > C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> > > > Chantilly is impressive.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss
> > against
> > > W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game
> > between
> > > two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn
> good
> > > season, surprising everyone by winning the
> > > district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and
> > with
> > > Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get
> > > interesting against LB.
> >
> > Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry
> > but did not see that game. I did see
> > Yorktown-Chantilly and LB-SoCo and am just not
> > sure what to make of tomorrow's games. Does
> > anybody know if Stewart is playing? If he is
> then
> > I will go see that game vs trying to cram
> myself
> > into SoCo-C'Ville.
>
> I've heard that MJ Stewart is in fact playing.
Thank you--I'm going to see LB-Yorktown then. I saw Stewart score like 4 times in last year's NR-D5 loss to SB. Both teams would have done well in ER-D5 last year. Yorktown's speed might have given Lake Taylor fits. This year I can't say because I only saw the Chantilly game--Yorktown won a squeaker but Stewart did not play.
-------------------------------------------------------
> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > toronto #2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SoCo and Yorktown as heavy underdogs have
> > > nothing
> > > > to lose tomorrow. SoCo just might hang
> tough
> > if
> > > > its D makes better reads than vs. LB. In
> > > contrast,
> > > > Yorktown pales vs. last year's 12-1 team
> that
> > > > crushed SoCo in playoffs and was beating SB
> > in
> > > the
> > > > 2nd half of the NR final before losing big.
> > Its
> > > > passing game is now mediocre, making it
> tough
> > > for
> > > > Stewart to run. W/O Stewart, the team
> > struggled
> > > to
> > > > beat Chantilly and Fairfax and reportedly
> got
> > > beat
> > > > by WL in reg season for the first time in
> 30
> > > > years. So it seems like SoCo has a much
> > better
> > > > chance of keeping it close tomorrow than
> does
> > > > Yorktown. Then again, mighty teams get
> felled
> > > > every year in FB, e.g., GC this year. LB
> most
> > > > likely will drop 50+ on Yorktown. Not sure
> > what
> > > to
> > > > make of SoCo-C'ville except to say that the
> > way
> > > > C'ville dominated and shutout Westfield and
> > > > Chantilly is impressive.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't penalize Yorktown for that loss
> > against
> > > W-L. It's an emotion-filled rivalry game
> > between
> > > two well-coached teams, and W-L had a damn
> good
> > > season, surprising everyone by winning the
> > > district. Yorktown can play w/o Stewart, and
> > with
> > > Stewart and Roebuck healthy, things could get
> > > interesting against LB.
> >
> > Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry
> > but did not see that game. I did see
> > Yorktown-Chantilly and LB-SoCo and am just not
> > sure what to make of tomorrow's games. Does
> > anybody know if Stewart is playing? If he is
> then
> > I will go see that game vs trying to cram
> myself
> > into SoCo-C'Ville.
>
> I've heard that MJ Stewart is in fact playing.
Thank you--I'm going to see LB-Yorktown then. I saw Stewart score like 4 times in last year's NR-D5 loss to SB. Both teams would have done well in ER-D5 last year. Yorktown's speed might have given Lake Taylor fits. This year I can't say because I only saw the Chantilly game--Yorktown won a squeaker but Stewart did not play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:53PM
"http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/virginia-6a-football-rivals-westfield-robinson-face-off-centreville-prepares-for-south-county/2013/11/21/a453451c-52c9-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html
Defensive lineman Tyler Sevener is back after missing most of the first contest with an injury and linebacker Connor McNulty is expected to make his first start since injuring his leg in an Oct. loss to Centreville."
Tyler Sevener has been back, McNulty just went through his first week of practice, may not start I've heard. Once again, the first game against Robinson Westfield had 5 starters out on D. If you count the sophomore who's been starting the past 4 weeks at MLB, #41 Clancy, it's six starters. I believe he was injured too, didn't dress, saw him on the sidelines. The kid is a tackling machine, definitely will help when facing Robinson's ground and pound. Without a doubt Sevener and McNulty were sorely missed the previous meeting. It will be interesting, I don't think Joe Wilson was 100% for that game, seems to be fine now thought. Should be a great game either way!
Defensive lineman Tyler Sevener is back after missing most of the first contest with an injury and linebacker Connor McNulty is expected to make his first start since injuring his leg in an Oct. loss to Centreville."
Tyler Sevener has been back, McNulty just went through his first week of practice, may not start I've heard. Once again, the first game against Robinson Westfield had 5 starters out on D. If you count the sophomore who's been starting the past 4 weeks at MLB, #41 Clancy, it's six starters. I believe he was injured too, didn't dress, saw him on the sidelines. The kid is a tackling machine, definitely will help when facing Robinson's ground and pound. Without a doubt Sevener and McNulty were sorely missed the previous meeting. It will be interesting, I don't think Joe Wilson was 100% for that game, seems to be fine now thought. Should be a great game either way!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 21, 2013 07:56PM
"fine though" not "fine thought" sorry, fat sausage fingers trying to peck away on an IPhone.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 08:02PM
ytn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry
> but did not see that game.
>
> Here's the full video of W-L Yorktown game
> courtesy of Arlington Independent Media. It was an
> impressive defensive battle for both teams. The
> regular season finale between the two schools is
> always an intense atmosphere and alumni often fly
> in from out of town to attend, especially this
> year with the district title on the line.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OedlqG3ILOs
Wow, I just took looked at the first few drives--big crowd and a lot of good D. Thanks for sending. I didn't realize this rivalry was so intense. Will watch the rest later tonight. The were both D5s all those years right? Amazing that one team beat the other in reg season 30 straight times or something like that.
-------------------------------------------------------
> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks--I have heard of the WL-Yorktown rivalry
> but did not see that game.
>
> Here's the full video of W-L Yorktown game
> courtesy of Arlington Independent Media. It was an
> impressive defensive battle for both teams. The
> regular season finale between the two schools is
> always an intense atmosphere and alumni often fly
> in from out of town to attend, especially this
> year with the district title on the line.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OedlqG3ILOs
Wow, I just took looked at the first few drives--big crowd and a lot of good D. Thanks for sending. I didn't realize this rivalry was so intense. Will watch the rest later tonight. The were both D5s all those years right? Amazing that one team beat the other in reg season 30 straight times or something like that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOCO
()
Date: November 21, 2013 08:04PM
THIS IS JUST LIKE 2 YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT AND BEAT STONEBRIDGE
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 08:36PM
Am keeping an eye on the South to see if Smith can get back to the final. They've only given up 54 points, going 11-0 vs a tough sched. My brother and I saw them open by beating defending D5 champ Lake Taylor 42-2. LT's only other loss is a close one to unbeaten Bird, 21-14. Tomorrow Smith hosts Grassfield which it beat 42-0 earlier. However, Ocean Lakes hosts one-loss Western Branch that hung with Smith all day this year before losing. In the game I saw, Smith's D was impressive. I haven't seen C'Ville so it would be stupid for me to opine on its D relative to Smith's. However, shutting out Westfield and Chantilly caused a buzz in Chesapeake among fans watching the North, so did LB's 5 straight shutouts. We are still 3 games away from seeing who goes to UVA, but the two teams that get there will be stacked.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ytn
()
Date: November 21, 2013 09:11PM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Wow, I just took looked at the first few
> drives--big crowd and a lot of good D. Thanks for
> sending. I didn't realize this rivalry was so
> intense. Will watch the rest later tonight. The
> were both D5s all those years right? Amazing that
> one team beat the other in reg season 30 straight
> times or something like that.
They were both D5 from the 80s on in the old Great Falls district and later the National District.
In prior decades, both schools had over 3,000 students. W-L used to be one of the dominant football programs in Northern Virginia from the 1930s-70s winning multiple district and state titles. In the 80s the school lost 2/3 of its population. Yorktown also shrank significantly in size, but with Hanson at the helm since the mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5 NoVa football. In 2010 W-L finally ended the losing streak against Yorktown in the playoffs (ending a 28 year curse), and this year in the regular season for the district title. Yorktown will always be strong with Hanson, and I believe W-L will stay competitive. Both schools are growing, so the talent pool can only get better. Wakefield, the other Arlington team, will stay D5 or 5A North and should be competitive in the new capitol conference.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Wow, I just took looked at the first few
> drives--big crowd and a lot of good D. Thanks for
> sending. I didn't realize this rivalry was so
> intense. Will watch the rest later tonight. The
> were both D5s all those years right? Amazing that
> one team beat the other in reg season 30 straight
> times or something like that.
They were both D5 from the 80s on in the old Great Falls district and later the National District.
In prior decades, both schools had over 3,000 students. W-L used to be one of the dominant football programs in Northern Virginia from the 1930s-70s winning multiple district and state titles. In the 80s the school lost 2/3 of its population. Yorktown also shrank significantly in size, but with Hanson at the helm since the mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5 NoVa football. In 2010 W-L finally ended the losing streak against Yorktown in the playoffs (ending a 28 year curse), and this year in the regular season for the district title. Yorktown will always be strong with Hanson, and I believe W-L will stay competitive. Both schools are growing, so the talent pool can only get better. Wakefield, the other Arlington team, will stay D5 or 5A North and should be competitive in the new capitol conference.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jonaq
()
Date: November 21, 2013 10:28PM
"Coach" is Clancys dad. Please stop praising your son on this site.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Trygadawg
()
Date: November 21, 2013 10:35PM
#4 #3 #55 #41 #92 #94all did not agaisnt Robinson first time. Defense is almost fully healthy now
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 21, 2013 11:10PM
Agree with Eastern Va Fan about the finals being stacked. Oscar Smith, Ocean Lakes, Western Branch, Centreville, Lake Braddock, perhaps Westfield all tough teams. We in the north also look from time to time to see what is going on down south and it is similarly impressive....
Let the last few weeks begin....!
Let the last few weeks begin....!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What, what, what?
()
Date: November 21, 2013 11:47PM
YTN wrote "with Hanson at the helm since the mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5 NoVa football. "
Dominated weak ass Arlington? Maybe.
Dominated D5 NoVa football? Not a chance.
Example... Stone Bridge is 31-10 in the playoffs since 2000. Yorktown? 6 - 8.
SB also hung a 69 on the "dominant D5" Yorktown team last year.
Their conference and their schedule suck. Move them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
Dominated weak ass Arlington? Maybe.
Dominated D5 NoVa football? Not a chance.
Example... Stone Bridge is 31-10 in the playoffs since 2000. Yorktown? 6 - 8.
SB also hung a 69 on the "dominant D5" Yorktown team last year.
Their conference and their schedule suck. Move them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bbb
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:16AM
hope robinson beats westfield so we can see braddock vs robinson....classic rivalry
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 22, 2013 05:46AM
We all know that SB has dominated NR-D$, but your post ignores what upstart Yorktown has done in 2011-13 and how we now see cracks in the armor when LC teams play schools the same size or larger.
1) Yorktown, not SB, made the NR final the past 2 years.
2) Both team have similar playoff records in 2011-13: SB (6-2); Yorktown (5-2).
3) This year, both teams beat Fairfax by 5--just 1 week apart; Yorktown did it w/o Stewart and its QB.
4) Yorktown beat SoCo 48-28 in 2012 playoffs. How did SB do vs. SoCo the last time they played?
5) In the game you mention, Yorktown put 50 on SB and led 29-28 in the third. SB wasn't the same after that, struggling v. Hanover and losing to LT at UVA.
6) You mention Tuscarora's good team, but they struggled last week vs. Mt.Vernon, 35-27, a team Yorktown handles every year. This year, Yorktown was up 17-0 at half before taking out the limping Stewart and winning 31-21.
7) SB has been great but let's see how other LC schools do the next few years now that they play schools their own size. N. Stafford came to Ashburn this year and took down BW, 19-7.
8) Let's see the Tuscarora team you mention does tonight vs. N. Stafford.
Nobody in VA can top what SB has done the past decade in D5 except Phoebus. Yorktown is no C'Ville, Wesstfield or LB, but neither is any LC team this year. For example, SB lost to Westfield 30-6 and to LB as well.
1) Yorktown, not SB, made the NR final the past 2 years.
2) Both team have similar playoff records in 2011-13: SB (6-2); Yorktown (5-2).
3) This year, both teams beat Fairfax by 5--just 1 week apart; Yorktown did it w/o Stewart and its QB.
4) Yorktown beat SoCo 48-28 in 2012 playoffs. How did SB do vs. SoCo the last time they played?
5) In the game you mention, Yorktown put 50 on SB and led 29-28 in the third. SB wasn't the same after that, struggling v. Hanover and losing to LT at UVA.
6) You mention Tuscarora's good team, but they struggled last week vs. Mt.Vernon, 35-27, a team Yorktown handles every year. This year, Yorktown was up 17-0 at half before taking out the limping Stewart and winning 31-21.
7) SB has been great but let's see how other LC schools do the next few years now that they play schools their own size. N. Stafford came to Ashburn this year and took down BW, 19-7.
8) Let's see the Tuscarora team you mention does tonight vs. N. Stafford.
Nobody in VA can top what SB has done the past decade in D5 except Phoebus. Yorktown is no C'Ville, Wesstfield or LB, but neither is any LC team this year. For example, SB lost to Westfield 30-6 and to LB as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 22, 2013 05:47AM
What, what, what? Wrote:
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> YTN wrote "with Hanson at the helm since the
> mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5
> NoVa football. "
>
> Dominated weak ass Arlington? Maybe.
>
> Dominated D5 NoVa football? Not a chance.
>
> Example... Stone Bridge is 31-10 in the playoffs
> since 2000. Yorktown? 6 - 8.
>
> SB also hung a 69 on the "dominant D5" Yorktown
> team last year.
>
> Their conference and their schedule suck. Move
> them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best
> team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
We all know that SB has dominated NR-D$, but your post ignores what upstart Yorktown has done in 2011-13 and how we now see cracks in the armor when LC teams play schools the same size or larger.
1) Yorktown, not SB, made the NR final the past 2 years.
2) Both team have similar playoff records in 2011-13: SB (6-2); Yorktown (5-2).
3) This year, both teams beat Fairfax by 5--just 1 week apart; Yorktown did it w/o Stewart and its QB.
4) Yorktown beat SoCo 48-28 in 2012 playoffs. How did SB do vs. SoCo the last time they played?
5) In the game you mention, Yorktown put 50 on SB and led 29-28 in the third. SB wasn't the same after that, struggling v. Hanover and losing to LT at UVA.
6) You mention Tuscarora's good team, but they struggled last week vs. Mt.Vernon, 35-27, a team Yorktown handles every year. This year, Yorktown was up 17-0 at half before taking out the limping Stewart and winning 31-21.
7) SB has been great but let's see how other LC schools do the next few years now that they play schools their own size. N. Stafford came to Ashburn this year and took down BW, 19-7.
8) Let's see the Tuscarora team you mention does tonight vs. N. Stafford.
Nobody in VA can top what SB has done the past decade in D5 except Phoebus. Yorktown is no C'Ville, Wesstfield or LB, but neither is any LC team this year. For example, SB lost to Westfield 30-6 and to LB as well.
-------------------------------------------------------
> YTN wrote "with Hanson at the helm since the
> mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5
> NoVa football. "
>
> Dominated weak ass Arlington? Maybe.
>
> Dominated D5 NoVa football? Not a chance.
>
> Example... Stone Bridge is 31-10 in the playoffs
> since 2000. Yorktown? 6 - 8.
>
> SB also hung a 69 on the "dominant D5" Yorktown
> team last year.
>
> Their conference and their schedule suck. Move
> them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best
> team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
We all know that SB has dominated NR-D$, but your post ignores what upstart Yorktown has done in 2011-13 and how we now see cracks in the armor when LC teams play schools the same size or larger.
1) Yorktown, not SB, made the NR final the past 2 years.
2) Both team have similar playoff records in 2011-13: SB (6-2); Yorktown (5-2).
3) This year, both teams beat Fairfax by 5--just 1 week apart; Yorktown did it w/o Stewart and its QB.
4) Yorktown beat SoCo 48-28 in 2012 playoffs. How did SB do vs. SoCo the last time they played?
5) In the game you mention, Yorktown put 50 on SB and led 29-28 in the third. SB wasn't the same after that, struggling v. Hanover and losing to LT at UVA.
6) You mention Tuscarora's good team, but they struggled last week vs. Mt.Vernon, 35-27, a team Yorktown handles every year. This year, Yorktown was up 17-0 at half before taking out the limping Stewart and winning 31-21.
7) SB has been great but let's see how other LC schools do the next few years now that they play schools their own size. N. Stafford came to Ashburn this year and took down BW, 19-7.
8) Let's see the Tuscarora team you mention does tonight vs. N. Stafford.
Nobody in VA can top what SB has done the past decade in D5 except Phoebus. Yorktown is no C'Ville, Wesstfield or LB, but neither is any LC team this year. For example, SB lost to Westfield 30-6 and to LB as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 07:05AM
What, what, what? Wrote:
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> YTN wrote "with Hanson at the helm since the
> mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5
> NoVa football. "
>
> Dominated weak ass Arlington? Maybe.
>
> Dominated D5 NoVa football? Not a chance.
>
> Example... Stone Bridge is 31-10 in the playoffs
> since 2000. Yorktown? 6 - 8.
>
> SB also hung a 69 on the "dominant D5" Yorktown
> team last year.
>
> Their conference and their schedule suck. Move
> them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best
> team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
I've seen every SB home game since the school was built. That Yorktown team you bash came to play. Good O and few tough but little players on D. We finally got rolling in the second half after Stewart and their QB got banged up and lack of depth showed. I think most of their players were seniors except for Stewart and am surprised to see they made it to the 2nd round of D6 this year. This year, we are better than people think. Westfield did beat us for the first time in 3 tries and we lost a close one to LB. Having seen both of those teams, I wouldn't rule out either team yet even though C'Ville's big win over Westfield makes me think they would beat any team in our county (including BW) and any D6 in the North, too.
-------------------------------------------------------
> YTN wrote "with Hanson at the helm since the
> mid-80s Yorktown has dominated Arlington and D5
> NoVa football. "
>
> Dominated weak ass Arlington? Maybe.
>
> Dominated D5 NoVa football? Not a chance.
>
> Example... Stone Bridge is 31-10 in the playoffs
> since 2000. Yorktown? 6 - 8.
>
> SB also hung a 69 on the "dominant D5" Yorktown
> team last year.
>
> Their conference and their schedule suck. Move
> them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best
> team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
I've seen every SB home game since the school was built. That Yorktown team you bash came to play. Good O and few tough but little players on D. We finally got rolling in the second half after Stewart and their QB got banged up and lack of depth showed. I think most of their players were seniors except for Stewart and am surprised to see they made it to the 2nd round of D6 this year. This year, we are better than people think. Westfield did beat us for the first time in 3 tries and we lost a close one to LB. Having seen both of those teams, I wouldn't rule out either team yet even though C'Ville's big win over Westfield makes me think they would beat any team in our county (including BW) and any D6 in the North, too.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
say whaa?
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:16AM
What, what, what? Wrote:
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>
> Their conference and their schedule suck. Move
> them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best
> team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
Couldn't the exact same thing be said of SB? Yeah, I know they schedule at least one Concorde team every year but everyone I know in LC (even SB parents) say the school has resisted leaving the Liberty for a long time because they like being the big fish in a mud puddle not just in football but all sports. Yorktown to Ashburn? Sure, but let SB go first since they're already there.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Their conference and their schedule suck. Move
> them to Ashburn, and they would be the 4th best
> team. 5th if you count Tuscarora.
Couldn't the exact same thing be said of SB? Yeah, I know they schedule at least one Concorde team every year but everyone I know in LC (even SB parents) say the school has resisted leaving the Liberty for a long time because they like being the big fish in a mud puddle not just in football but all sports. Yorktown to Ashburn? Sure, but let SB go first since they're already there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
...
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:21AM
Lets go Langley
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mr steal yo girl
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:22AM
Why am I not playing?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sportz55
()
Date: November 22, 2013 12:04PM
Although Hanson is the superior coach when compared to the LB head coach, LB should coast in this game. York has not seen a team that compares to LB in both size and talent. York struggled in close victories with Hayfield, Mt. V and FC while losing to WL. It’s a numbers game, more kids in the school means better chance of having more skilled/talented players. Not a knock on York, just the reality of the mess that the VHSL created. No way teams with losing records should ever be in the playoffs, its a joke.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 22, 2013 12:34PM
""Coach" is Clancys dad. Please stop praising your son on this site."
Jonaq,
Not sure how you drew that conclusion but I'm sorry to disappoint you that I'm not. Since this thread pertaining to the playoffs has been going on for the past few weeks and I haven't seen your name here I assume you're just throwing your two cents in, which is fine, it's a free country.
First off, had you been part of these discussions, mostly of the intelligent well spoken nature, you would know I'm an assistant coach for a local high school team. The team I'm affiliated with is a Concorde District team, it shouldn't be a surprise that I'm not interested in revealing what team since I like my job and would love to keep it.
Second, had you been a regular in these discussion over the last week or so such as hsfballfn, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, and a host of others you would know that I have doled out praise for many players, Westfield, Centreville, Herndon, Oakton, etc., mostly from the Concorde. I just happen to know a thing or two about the many quality players in the Concorde because I've watched all of the game films, that's part of my job.
So, you can see my praise has been for many, not just one player for one team so please do your research before you post it, as most on this particular sight have. It would add a bit of substance to your claim and not make yourself look foolish.
In the words of hsfball fan, "This is a football talk site sorry you are perturbed. I am more than interested to hear alternative opinions based on serious analysis, film study, match ups, etc. What is your opinion?" otherwise please join some other thread.
For the rest of you, sorry, this is just the kind of stuff that infuriates me, we've got an intelligent discussion going on then someone has to ruin it, please forgive my outburst.
Jonaq,
Not sure how you drew that conclusion but I'm sorry to disappoint you that I'm not. Since this thread pertaining to the playoffs has been going on for the past few weeks and I haven't seen your name here I assume you're just throwing your two cents in, which is fine, it's a free country.
First off, had you been part of these discussions, mostly of the intelligent well spoken nature, you would know I'm an assistant coach for a local high school team. The team I'm affiliated with is a Concorde District team, it shouldn't be a surprise that I'm not interested in revealing what team since I like my job and would love to keep it.
Second, had you been a regular in these discussion over the last week or so such as hsfballfn, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, and a host of others you would know that I have doled out praise for many players, Westfield, Centreville, Herndon, Oakton, etc., mostly from the Concorde. I just happen to know a thing or two about the many quality players in the Concorde because I've watched all of the game films, that's part of my job.
So, you can see my praise has been for many, not just one player for one team so please do your research before you post it, as most on this particular sight have. It would add a bit of substance to your claim and not make yourself look foolish.
In the words of hsfball fan, "This is a football talk site sorry you are perturbed. I am more than interested to hear alternative opinions based on serious analysis, film study, match ups, etc. What is your opinion?" otherwise please join some other thread.
For the rest of you, sorry, this is just the kind of stuff that infuriates me, we've got an intelligent discussion going on then someone has to ruin it, please forgive my outburst.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sportstown
()
Date: November 22, 2013 12:47PM
I'm glad Ytown lost to W-L. It's good to see another program, especially an arch rival, challenge its dominance in the National District. Ytown won 28 consecutive regular season Natl District contests before losing to a very good W-L team. W-L even put up a good fight against Stonewall J, but their explosive quarterback Greg Stroman, who is a Va Tech commit was just a little too much to handle in the second half.
I think Yorktown/LB has the potential to be an interesting game, but it depends on how much of a role MJ Stewart will have. Both MJ and Roebuck the QB reinjured ankles late in the W-L game, but it looks like they will be in the game tonight.
I think Yorktown/LB has the potential to be an interesting game, but it depends on how much of a role MJ Stewart will have. Both MJ and Roebuck the QB reinjured ankles late in the W-L game, but it looks like they will be in the game tonight.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:00PM
Thank you to Coach and others for an insight into the teams that I don't pick up on as a casual fan. Good football is something to be appreciated, and to have made it this deep into November, there are no "bad" teams at this point, they've been knocked out. One thing is for certain, there are always a few surprises come game time, so let's have a good time seeing what actually happens tonight. I hope it stays well above freezing tonight like the forecasters are saying.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:10PM
"#4 #3 #55 #41 #92 #94all did not agaisnt Robinson first time. Defense is almost fully healthy now"
Trygadawg,
You are correct, as noted in my previous posts Westfield was pretty banged up when they played Robinson the first time. The following week after that game the head coach for Lake Braddock, Poythress, even commented on how Westfield had won a tough one against a quality district foe with 5 starters out.
I love reading the panel of coaches input on their rankings, mostly spot on. Though it still always amazes me how the non Virginia high school coaches always rank the Maryland/D.C./private schools above the teams from Virginia, with of course the exception of Centreville and Lake Braddock. Especially considering in the past on the rare occasion you get a Virginia vs. Maryland/D.C. regular season matchup the Virginia schools seem to come out on top. I think the last time though was quite a few years ago, 2008 Robinson played Anacostia when Bendorff was still the head coach for the Rams. Both teams were perennial powers at the time, game wasn’t even close, Robinson dominated 61-14.
But that’s another topic for discussion, sorry I got off track, getting back to the injury thing with Robinson vs. Westfield game. Keep in mind I believe the first matchup was also Joe Wilson's first game back after suffering an injury in the season opener. He didn't have many carries and just didn't look like his old self. I watched the film from this past Friday when Robinson beat Patriot, Wilson certainly looks like he's back to full strength.
As one observer wrote, I believe RydellRoad, the Post had Wilson with 23 carries for 123 yards in the Patriot game. I watched the film, it was actually 23 carries for 109 yards, guess the post didn't take away yards on a few of his carries that the net result was a loss.
I think both teams will move the ball, both possess quality rushing attacks. Inevitably I think the teams that has success passing will come out on top, just my hunch. Of course, my opinion is based on the fact I assume both teams play well, have few if any turnovers and penalties. If that's not the case then the effectiveness of the passing game will bear no advantage.
Either way it should be a great game, these two teams are pretty identical in how they match up with one another. I wish I was going but it's just too hard to pass up watching SOCO vs. Centreville, that's my game of the week. I just am so curious as to how SOCO's offense will stack up against Centreville. I think it will be exciting, especially because Love isn't playing for Centreville due to his shoulder. This will prevent Wiggins from doing what he does best, blitzing, that may allow for some effectiveness from SOCO's offense.
Though deep down inside I still believe Centreville comes out on top, easy, their just so good. Haven't seen a team like this from the Northern Region in a long time. I just have a sneaking suspicion though that SOCO may prove to put the best offensive numbers up against the Wildcat defense, just not enough to win. Should be a pretty awesome game!
Trygadawg,
You are correct, as noted in my previous posts Westfield was pretty banged up when they played Robinson the first time. The following week after that game the head coach for Lake Braddock, Poythress, even commented on how Westfield had won a tough one against a quality district foe with 5 starters out.
I love reading the panel of coaches input on their rankings, mostly spot on. Though it still always amazes me how the non Virginia high school coaches always rank the Maryland/D.C./private schools above the teams from Virginia, with of course the exception of Centreville and Lake Braddock. Especially considering in the past on the rare occasion you get a Virginia vs. Maryland/D.C. regular season matchup the Virginia schools seem to come out on top. I think the last time though was quite a few years ago, 2008 Robinson played Anacostia when Bendorff was still the head coach for the Rams. Both teams were perennial powers at the time, game wasn’t even close, Robinson dominated 61-14.
But that’s another topic for discussion, sorry I got off track, getting back to the injury thing with Robinson vs. Westfield game. Keep in mind I believe the first matchup was also Joe Wilson's first game back after suffering an injury in the season opener. He didn't have many carries and just didn't look like his old self. I watched the film from this past Friday when Robinson beat Patriot, Wilson certainly looks like he's back to full strength.
As one observer wrote, I believe RydellRoad, the Post had Wilson with 23 carries for 123 yards in the Patriot game. I watched the film, it was actually 23 carries for 109 yards, guess the post didn't take away yards on a few of his carries that the net result was a loss.
I think both teams will move the ball, both possess quality rushing attacks. Inevitably I think the teams that has success passing will come out on top, just my hunch. Of course, my opinion is based on the fact I assume both teams play well, have few if any turnovers and penalties. If that's not the case then the effectiveness of the passing game will bear no advantage.
Either way it should be a great game, these two teams are pretty identical in how they match up with one another. I wish I was going but it's just too hard to pass up watching SOCO vs. Centreville, that's my game of the week. I just am so curious as to how SOCO's offense will stack up against Centreville. I think it will be exciting, especially because Love isn't playing for Centreville due to his shoulder. This will prevent Wiggins from doing what he does best, blitzing, that may allow for some effectiveness from SOCO's offense.
Though deep down inside I still believe Centreville comes out on top, easy, their just so good. Haven't seen a team like this from the Northern Region in a long time. I just have a sneaking suspicion though that SOCO may prove to put the best offensive numbers up against the Wildcat defense, just not enough to win. Should be a pretty awesome game!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hdvdd
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:34PM
Hhkkf
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cool it beans
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:36PM
S/o to stonewall
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Langley?
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:37PM
I think Langley is easily the worst team left in 6A north
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:41PM
Thanks for your insight Coach! Always good stuff. 6 more hours Baby!! I'll be firmly planted on the 50 yard line at the SCo-Cville game as well. Going to be a fun night.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:53PM
Coach you da man, like you told me earlier one always takes a bit of grief on these sites - keep the good analysis flowing.
I agree you, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, I would also add Nat4Lee and others (and hopefully myself) are putting up some good posts. Of course I imagine posting will go crazy again on this board later tonite and into the morning after tonite's games. :)
To a few other posts:
Tyler Love is out tonite but will play in later games for CVille assuming they continue to win, cannot wait
I would not sleep on Langley as their option game is deadly. Think their defense will be enough to beat Stonewall in a high scoring affair but then not good enough to deal with later competition (e.g., CVille).
I keep looking at the weather sites and the chances of rain are going down, at most perhaps some light showers nothing like the week earlier in the season when we had the torrential downpours.
Everyone have fun tonite with the various games talk again real soon!
I agree you, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, I would also add Nat4Lee and others (and hopefully myself) are putting up some good posts. Of course I imagine posting will go crazy again on this board later tonite and into the morning after tonite's games. :)
To a few other posts:
Tyler Love is out tonite but will play in later games for CVille assuming they continue to win, cannot wait
I would not sleep on Langley as their option game is deadly. Think their defense will be enough to beat Stonewall in a high scoring affair but then not good enough to deal with later competition (e.g., CVille).
I keep looking at the weather sites and the chances of rain are going down, at most perhaps some light showers nothing like the week earlier in the season when we had the torrential downpours.
Everyone have fun tonite with the various games talk again real soon!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:53PM
Coach Wrote:
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> I love reading the panel of coaches input on their
> rankings, mostly spot on. Though it still always
> amazes me how the non Virginia high school coaches
> always rank the Maryland/D.C./private schools
> above the teams from Virginia, with of course the
> exception of Centreville and Lake Braddock.
It's like that every year. VA schools just don't get much respect from the Post.
DeMatha definitely belongs near the top though. I was at their scrimmage with Westfield and they were very good.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I love reading the panel of coaches input on their
> rankings, mostly spot on. Though it still always
> amazes me how the non Virginia high school coaches
> always rank the Maryland/D.C./private schools
> above the teams from Virginia, with of course the
> exception of Centreville and Lake Braddock.
It's like that every year. VA schools just don't get much respect from the Post.
DeMatha definitely belongs near the top though. I was at their scrimmage with Westfield and they were very good.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
So Cool
()
Date: November 22, 2013 01:57PM
Robinson V. Westfield is the 'Game of the Week' for both Gameday Magazine and WUSA9. Highlights of the game will be on WUSA 9 tonight. Go Rams!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:05PM
By the way can anyone predict which game I will attend?
Ha ha....
Ha ha....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:20PM
"I think Langley is easily the worst team left in 6A north"
I would not sleep on Langley, very sound QB and RB, huge OL. I will admit I don't know too much about them, seen very little film. Stonewall has some talent, dealt with a bunch of injuries early on, team is relatively healthy. This should be a good game by all accounts which means it will probably be a blow out one way or the other. Seems like that's always they way it happens when the playoffs come around.
"I agree you, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, I would also add Nat4Lee and others (and hopefully myself) are putting up some good posts."
hsfballfan,
I couldn't agree with you more, sorry Nat4Lee, didn’t mean to leave you out. Though I must say, hsfballfan is definitely me favorite, even if he's a homer on Centreville:) Can't really blame him though since they're so darn good!
I would not sleep on Langley, very sound QB and RB, huge OL. I will admit I don't know too much about them, seen very little film. Stonewall has some talent, dealt with a bunch of injuries early on, team is relatively healthy. This should be a good game by all accounts which means it will probably be a blow out one way or the other. Seems like that's always they way it happens when the playoffs come around.
"I agree you, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, I would also add Nat4Lee and others (and hopefully myself) are putting up some good posts."
hsfballfan,
I couldn't agree with you more, sorry Nat4Lee, didn’t mean to leave you out. Though I must say, hsfballfan is definitely me favorite, even if he's a homer on Centreville:) Can't really blame him though since they're so darn good!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:23PM
Sorry meant to say "my favorite" not "me favorite", darn spell-check, why can't you detect my grammatical mistakes!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:37PM
I am honored Coach - thx!!
I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson is the game of the week is just comical to me. Of course it is probably the closest matchup of two age old rivals but as good as CVille is every game of theirs should get much more attention in the Post, on TV, etc. That is why I just want to keep spreading the word to fans from other schools that this is not your typical team as you have said eloquently Coach. Anyway, all good especially as they keep winning.
Now football is only five hours away.....
I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson is the game of the week is just comical to me. Of course it is probably the closest matchup of two age old rivals but as good as CVille is every game of theirs should get much more attention in the Post, on TV, etc. That is why I just want to keep spreading the word to fans from other schools that this is not your typical team as you have said eloquently Coach. Anyway, all good especially as they keep winning.
Now football is only five hours away.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:42PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> By the way can anyone predict which game I will
> attend?
>
> Ha ha....
Who cares what game you attend? Just shut up for a while. This thread isn't all about you and your bullshit "analysis". Thanks.
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> By the way can anyone predict which game I will
> attend?
>
> Ha ha....
Who cares what game you attend? Just shut up for a while. This thread isn't all about you and your bullshit "analysis". Thanks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:45PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But
> for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson
> is the game of the week is just comical to me.
Relax. Everyone knows CVille will get their game hype next week. Don't be greedy...
-------------------------------------------------------
> I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But
> for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson
> is the game of the week is just comical to me.
Relax. Everyone knows CVille will get their game hype next week. Don't be greedy...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:51PM
Hey Root Boy sorry to see the hostility - life too short for that. What would you like to say to the rest of us of any substance or even fun. I know I talk too much, I know I am a homer, etc etc etc.
However I think you see that some of us are forming a genuine "community of interest" on this site. Sorry if your team is not amongst the favored or that you like to just make one off comments, or you forgot to kick your dog today, or whatever. You can start other threads if you like as seems that a few of us have actually been able to do something interesting with this one. I remember just a few weeks ago coming on this site and the typical contributions were like:
"go team go"
"our team is going to kick your ass"
"momma says stupid is as stupid will always be"
and a bunch of other shit like that
Say something interesting or at least fun.
However I think you see that some of us are forming a genuine "community of interest" on this site. Sorry if your team is not amongst the favored or that you like to just make one off comments, or you forgot to kick your dog today, or whatever. You can start other threads if you like as seems that a few of us have actually been able to do something interesting with this one. I remember just a few weeks ago coming on this site and the typical contributions were like:
"go team go"
"our team is going to kick your ass"
"momma says stupid is as stupid will always be"
and a bunch of other shit like that
Say something interesting or at least fun.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:51PM
Just remember as good as Centreville appears to be, you still cannot overlook tonight's opponent! Don't clear the space on the mantel for the trophy just yet...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:52PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I am honored Coach - thx!!
>
> I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But
> for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson
> is the game of the week is just comical to me. Of
> course it is probably the closest matchup of two
> age old rivals but as good as CVille is every game
> of theirs should get much more attention in the
> Post, on TV, etc. That is why I just want to keep
> spreading the word to fans from other schools that
> this is not your typical team as you have said
> eloquently Coach. Anyway, all good especially as
> they keep winning.
>
> Now football is only five hours away.....
Actually it was a text-in voting system that allowed Robinson-Westfield to be televised. Several of the schools had the oportunity to vote in their school. It should be on Gameday.
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> I am honored Coach - thx!!
>
> I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But
> for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson
> is the game of the week is just comical to me. Of
> course it is probably the closest matchup of two
> age old rivals but as good as CVille is every game
> of theirs should get much more attention in the
> Post, on TV, etc. That is why I just want to keep
> spreading the word to fans from other schools that
> this is not your typical team as you have said
> eloquently Coach. Anyway, all good especially as
> they keep winning.
>
> Now football is only five hours away.....
Actually it was a text-in voting system that allowed Robinson-Westfield to be televised. Several of the schools had the oportunity to vote in their school. It should be on Gameday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:52PM
I agree Rydell, thanks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 02:54PM
I agree Nat4Lee - SOCO should push them a bit....think that is actually a good thing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:05PM
By the Keep it Real I think you have added to this site as well and should be recognized in addition to Coach, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
Keep on Keeping it real....
Keep on Keeping it real....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:09PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey Root Boy sorry to see the hostility - life too
> short for that. What would you like to say to the
> rest of us of any substance or even fun. I know I
> talk too much, I know I am a homer, etc etc etc.
>
> However I think you see that some of us are
> forming a genuine "community of interest" on this
> site. Sorry if your team is not amongst the
> favored or that you like to just make one off
> comments, or you forgot to kick your dog today, or
> whatever. You can start other threads if you like
> as seems that a few of us have actually been able
> to do something interesting with this one. I
> remember just a few weeks ago coming on this site
> and the typical contributions were like:
>
> "go team go"
> "our team is going to kick your ass"
> "momma says stupid is as stupid will always be"
> and a bunch of other shit like that
>
> Say something interesting or at least fun.
You are so clever! You know so much! You even know who my team is and that I have a dog. Amazing. Your contributions to this site have improved it immensely! Your analysis is above and beyond. You should be on Fox NFL Sunday. Now shut the fuck up and go pop some zits.
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> Hey Root Boy sorry to see the hostility - life too
> short for that. What would you like to say to the
> rest of us of any substance or even fun. I know I
> talk too much, I know I am a homer, etc etc etc.
>
> However I think you see that some of us are
> forming a genuine "community of interest" on this
> site. Sorry if your team is not amongst the
> favored or that you like to just make one off
> comments, or you forgot to kick your dog today, or
> whatever. You can start other threads if you like
> as seems that a few of us have actually been able
> to do something interesting with this one. I
> remember just a few weeks ago coming on this site
> and the typical contributions were like:
>
> "go team go"
> "our team is going to kick your ass"
> "momma says stupid is as stupid will always be"
> and a bunch of other shit like that
>
> Say something interesting or at least fun.
You are so clever! You know so much! You even know who my team is and that I have a dog. Amazing. Your contributions to this site have improved it immensely! Your analysis is above and beyond. You should be on Fox NFL Sunday. Now shut the fuck up and go pop some zits.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:10PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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>
>
> Now football is only five hours away.....
About 4 hours now. :)
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>
>
> Now football is only five hours away.....
About 4 hours now. :)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:11PM
Good luck to you RootBoy
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:12PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey "CVille Student" - you been on these past two
> days? If you see this post what is the word with
> Tyler Love, LB at CVille? Are they trying to get
> him ready for State semis or finals if CVille gets
> there or are they just shutting him down with the
> shoulder injury?
>
> Thanks for any insights, you have been so helpful
> already.
He's now back at practice. We'll see how he progresses.
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> Hey "CVille Student" - you been on these past two
> days? If you see this post what is the word with
> Tyler Love, LB at CVille? Are they trying to get
> him ready for State semis or finals if CVille gets
> there or are they just shutting him down with the
> shoulder injury?
>
> Thanks for any insights, you have been so helpful
> already.
He's now back at practice. We'll see how he progresses.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:13PM
Interesting Wrote:
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> Love was cleared to start working out and
> practicing earlier this week. He won't be playing
> against South County; however barring no setbacks,
> he will be playing again this year.
Exactly right...
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> Love was cleared to start working out and
> practicing earlier this week. He won't be playing
> against South County; however barring no setbacks,
> he will be playing again this year.
Exactly right...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:15PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Good luck to you RootBoy
It was fun. Thanks.
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> Good luck to you RootBoy
It was fun. Thanks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:16PM
Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster that should be added to this board's wall of fame...although watch out we have some fans of lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us CVille homers :)
Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done nearly enough yet....
CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done nearly enough yet....
CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan, RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy is an ass...
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:16PM
RootBoy Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------->
> Who cares what game you attend? Just shut up for
> a while. This thread isn't all about you and your
> bullshit "analysis". Thanks.
Chill out dude...he was just making a joke.
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> Who cares what game you attend? Just shut up for
> a while. This thread isn't all about you and your
> bullshit "analysis". Thanks.
Chill out dude...he was just making a joke.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville student
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:18PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster
> that should be added to this board's wall of
> fame...although watch out we have some fans of
> lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us
> CVille homers :)
>
> Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for
> this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done
> nearly enough yet....
>
> CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan,
> RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
LOL...That's a good list. I've gotta run. Wish us luck tonight. ;)
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> Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster
> that should be added to this board's wall of
> fame...although watch out we have some fans of
> lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us
> CVille homers :)
>
> Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for
> this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done
> nearly enough yet....
>
> CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan,
> RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
LOL...That's a good list. I've gotta run. Wish us luck tonight. ;)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:19PM
Thanks, another person with a sense of humor and who "gets it"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:22PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster
> that should be added to this board's wall of
> fame...although watch out we have some fans of
> lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us
> CVille homers :)
>
> Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for
> this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done
> nearly enough yet....
>
> CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan,
> RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
But, alas, I am at a loss. I would like to, but how does one get on the wall of fame if they will not take part in the incessant, incestuous, recursive conversation concerning Centreville, and NOTHING BUT Centreville, for DAYS at a time, ad nauseum?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster
> that should be added to this board's wall of
> fame...although watch out we have some fans of
> lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us
> CVille homers :)
>
> Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for
> this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done
> nearly enough yet....
>
> CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan,
> RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
But, alas, I am at a loss. I would like to, but how does one get on the wall of fame if they will not take part in the incessant, incestuous, recursive conversation concerning Centreville, and NOTHING BUT Centreville, for DAYS at a time, ad nauseum?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:23PM
Good luck CVille Student....I already know myself, Interesting, Coach perhaps others will be there.
Funny thing about this posting stuff, we might actually be sitting next to each other and not even know it!!!
Root Boy if you are there, I am 6'5" 300 lbs, used to play offensive tackle, moonlighted as a bouncer at a famous NYC bar, etc....
SMILE, and chill out Enjoy the interaction with others on this site, it is all just for fun....
Funny thing about this posting stuff, we might actually be sitting next to each other and not even know it!!!
Root Boy if you are there, I am 6'5" 300 lbs, used to play offensive tackle, moonlighted as a bouncer at a famous NYC bar, etc....
SMILE, and chill out Enjoy the interaction with others on this site, it is all just for fun....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:26PM
But there you miss the point RootBoy....on that list of course I and CVille Student are homers but beyond maybe Interesting the others assuredly are not. Ask a question or post a reasonable thought...we have talked about all of the other games including D6 and D5, we have talked about 757 teams, many other things. Again just be interesting....
Of course when there is dead air I will assuredly fall back on my CVille homerism....
You too can be part of the wall of fame, I actually forgive you for your choice words earlier, just add something.
Of course when there is dead air I will assuredly fall back on my CVille homerism....
You too can be part of the wall of fame, I actually forgive you for your choice words earlier, just add something.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:31PM
Well, would you like me to talk endlessly about those wonderful squads over at George Marshall or Robert E. Lee? I can hear the rats scurrying to jump ship now.
Bring up a thoughtful discussion point about a team, and it will get discussed. It just so happens that the best teams get a little more coverage and attention, and that's probably a good thing.
Bring up a thoughtful discussion point about a team, and it will get discussed. It just so happens that the best teams get a little more coverage and attention, and that's probably a good thing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:33PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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>
> Root Boy if you are there, I am 6'5" 300 lbs, used
> to play offensive tackle, moonlighted as a bouncer
> at a famous NYC bar, etc....
I expect a detailed game report!
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>
> Root Boy if you are there, I am 6'5" 300 lbs, used
> to play offensive tackle, moonlighted as a bouncer
> at a famous NYC bar, etc....
I expect a detailed game report!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:33PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Good luck CVille Student....I already know myself,
> Interesting, Coach perhaps others will be there.
>
> Funny thing about this posting stuff, we might
> actually be sitting next to each other and not
> even know it!!!
>
> Root Boy if you are there, I am 6'5" 300 lbs, used
> to play offensive tackle, moonlighted as a bouncer
> at a famous NYC bar, etc....
>
> SMILE, and chill out Enjoy the interaction with
> others on this site, it is all just for fun....
No worries, I am enjoying myself and I am more chill than the north pole, and I am definitely having fun. I was going to go to the SC-CV game, but now that you mention that you are a 6-5 300-pounder, I'm kinda scared to show up now.
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> Good luck CVille Student....I already know myself,
> Interesting, Coach perhaps others will be there.
>
> Funny thing about this posting stuff, we might
> actually be sitting next to each other and not
> even know it!!!
>
> Root Boy if you are there, I am 6'5" 300 lbs, used
> to play offensive tackle, moonlighted as a bouncer
> at a famous NYC bar, etc....
>
> SMILE, and chill out Enjoy the interaction with
> others on this site, it is all just for fun....
No worries, I am enjoying myself and I am more chill than the north pole, and I am definitely having fun. I was going to go to the SC-CV game, but now that you mention that you are a 6-5 300-pounder, I'm kinda scared to show up now.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:35PM
And by the way RootBoy if CVille loses before getting to the state finals I will be the first to admit I am a dumbshit and you all can lay into me post after post. I will be just fine....Fortunately I think the idea of them getting to states is a sound one though, then when they play one of the 757 teams going to be a toss up.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:38PM
Not to worry Rootboy show up and see some real football at CVille Stadium, heck you do not know I might as easily be 5,5" and 130 pounds.
Of course Rydell Road and assuming you are going to Wfield/Robinson expect the same from you....
Of course Rydell Road and assuming you are going to Wfield/Robinson expect the same from you....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
JimmyV
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:46PM
Westfield has the best coaching staff overall. Year in and year out, they get results. THeir black mark is losing 2 NR finals on their home field. But look at the teams that went 12-0 back to back with no big time talent at any skill position. The 2012 team was virtually all new starters and they went 12-1. Even this years 9-2 team is not filled with talent. That's coaching.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:46PM
> I definitely agree I am a HUGE CVille homer. But
> for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson
> is the game of the week is just comical to me.
I'm pretty sure it's the game of the week only because it potentially is the one that could go down to the wire. Would not be surprised one way or the other who wins unlike the others on tap.
> for instance the fact that Westfield and Robinson
> is the game of the week is just comical to me.
I'm pretty sure it's the game of the week only because it potentially is the one that could go down to the wire. Would not be surprised one way or the other who wins unlike the others on tap.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 03:51PM
Alright another poster with a meaningful comment. Thanks Jimmy V.
I am going to surprise my fans (and non-fans - smile) by saying that Westfield's coaches are right at the top. I think they squeezed a lot out of both of those squads. The 2011 CVille team was just destined in my opinion to win given history with Westfield and last year's Wfield team was solid but not great (and just ran into an incredibly hot team in Oakton.....similar to the Ravens last year in the NFL).
I am going to surprise my fans (and non-fans - smile) by saying that Westfield's coaches are right at the top. I think they squeezed a lot out of both of those squads. The 2011 CVille team was just destined in my opinion to win given history with Westfield and last year's Wfield team was solid but not great (and just ran into an incredibly hot team in Oakton.....similar to the Ravens last year in the NFL).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 22, 2013 04:00PM
JimmyV Wrote:
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> Westfield has the best coaching staff overall.
> Year in and year out, they get results. THeir
> black mark is losing 2 NR finals on their home
> field. But look at the teams that went 12-0 back
> to back with no big time talent at any skill
> position. The 2012 team was virtually all new
> starters and they went 12-1. Even this years 9-2
> team is not filled with talent. That's coaching.
Well put - I think I've tried to say the same thing in a different way in the past. But they had decent RB's those 2 years.
2011: Kendall Anderson
Did OK as a redshirt freshman this year at W&M
http://www.tribeathletics.com/fls/25100/data_import/files/fb/2013/stats/histcarr.htm?DB_OEM_ID=25100#K__Anderson
2012: Dalaun Richardson
Saw a little action at Shenandoah U. this season.
http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2013-14/bios/richardson_dalaun_xegw
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> Westfield has the best coaching staff overall.
> Year in and year out, they get results. THeir
> black mark is losing 2 NR finals on their home
> field. But look at the teams that went 12-0 back
> to back with no big time talent at any skill
> position. The 2012 team was virtually all new
> starters and they went 12-1. Even this years 9-2
> team is not filled with talent. That's coaching.
Well put - I think I've tried to say the same thing in a different way in the past. But they had decent RB's those 2 years.
2011: Kendall Anderson
Did OK as a redshirt freshman this year at W&M
http://www.tribeathletics.com/fls/25100/data_import/files/fb/2013/stats/histcarr.htm?DB_OEM_ID=25100#K__Anderson
2012: Dalaun Richardson
Saw a little action at Shenandoah U. this season.
http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2013-14/bios/richardson_dalaun_xegw
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: November 22, 2013 04:01PM
"Westfield has the best coaching staff overall. Year in and year out, they get results. THeir black mark is losing 2 NR finals on their home field. But look at the teams that went 12-0 back to back with no big time talent at any skill position. The 2012 team was virtually all new starters and they went 12-1. Even this years 9-2 team is not filled with talent. That's coaching."
JimmyV,
I agree to an extent but Stone Bridge, Lake Braddock, and Centreville have some great coaching as well.
In regard to Westfield’s talent, I'm not so sure, Tyler Thrasher-Walker, Evan Gray, Devon Burns, Tyler Sevener, Chase Koon, Connor McNulty, Eric Gardner, a certain #41 who I won't mention by name as to not upset Jovaq, Dontairo Moore, and James Gibson are all some pretty darn good players.
JimmyV,
I agree to an extent but Stone Bridge, Lake Braddock, and Centreville have some great coaching as well.
In regard to Westfield’s talent, I'm not so sure, Tyler Thrasher-Walker, Evan Gray, Devon Burns, Tyler Sevener, Chase Koon, Connor McNulty, Eric Gardner, a certain #41 who I won't mention by name as to not upset Jovaq, Dontairo Moore, and James Gibson are all some pretty darn good players.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 04:10PM
Hey folks I am out. Got to get my Marcus Hamilton autographed socks on, and my Will Montgomery boxers out, play a bit with my Ken Ekanem bobble head doll and then chant "We are Cville" 50 times at the shrine of Coach Haddock in my basement....much to do before 7:30 SMILE
Talk to you all tonite around 11'ish. Have fun at whatever game you might be going to. Isn't Friday Night Lights fun shit?
Cheers!!
Talk to you all tonite around 11'ish. Have fun at whatever game you might be going to. Isn't Friday Night Lights fun shit?
Cheers!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Who?
()
Date: November 22, 2013 05:14PM
Marcus Hamilton that coached at soco?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 22, 2013 05:16PM
I was with Dan Meier and Son's in 09 Watching the Fairfax vs LB game when Haddock was coaching there, if it had not been for the FF running back fumbling 3-4 times inside the 10 yard line, FF looked like a college team compared to LB. It was a shame as FF was playing very well that year. There's no doubt he is a very good coach. I expect an amazing game up there. I will be attending the Rob-Westfield game even though I live next to LB. I thankfully will have guys text me up to date game stats.
Have fun at the games guys!!!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2013 05:16PM by KeepitReal.
Have fun at the games guys!!!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2013 05:16PM by KeepitReal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 22, 2013 06:33PM
Who? Wrote:
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> Marcus Hamilton that coached at soco?
Marcus Hamilton that played at Cville, then Tech (I think, maybe not), then a little bit with the Tampa Bay Bucs.
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> Marcus Hamilton that coached at soco?
Marcus Hamilton that played at Cville, then Tech (I think, maybe not), then a little bit with the Tampa Bay Bucs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: November 22, 2013 08:19PM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> Who? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Marcus Hamilton that coached at soco?
>
>
> Marcus Hamilton that played at Cville, then Tech
> (I think, maybe not), then a little bit with the
> Tampa Bay Bucs.
I think Marcus Hamilton played for UVa, and yes the Bucs.
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> Who? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Marcus Hamilton that coached at soco?
>
>
> Marcus Hamilton that played at Cville, then Tech
> (I think, maybe not), then a little bit with the
> Tampa Bay Bucs.
I think Marcus Hamilton played for UVa, and yes the Bucs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimmy Jam
()
Date: November 22, 2013 09:44PM
About that C'ville state championship run....put it on hold.
Halftime: SoCo 21, Chokeville 14.
Halftime: SoCo 21, Chokeville 14.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
not so fast
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:02PM
Jimmy Jam Wrote:
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> About that C'ville state championship run....put
> it on hold.
>
> Halftime: SoCo 21, Chokeville 14.
Cville up 42-35 w/7 minutes left in Q-4 and have the ball.
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> About that C'ville state championship run....put
> it on hold.
>
> Halftime: SoCo 21, Chokeville 14.
Cville up 42-35 w/7 minutes left in Q-4 and have the ball.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Curious1
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:08PM
Well??? What's the final????
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Muhammad Ali
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:12PM
LB 40 Yorktown 7 FINAL SCORE.
Go Bruins....Rumble young men, rumble.
Go Bruins....Rumble young men, rumble.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:23PM
Centreville 55 South County 35
Lake Braddock 40 Yorktown 7
Westfield 21 Robinson 14
Stonewall Jackson 51 Langley 48
LB-Westfield rematch and Centreville vs Greg St Roman next week.
Lake Braddock 40 Yorktown 7
Westfield 21 Robinson 14
Stonewall Jackson 51 Langley 48
LB-Westfield rematch and Centreville vs Greg St Roman next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
6A North
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:24PM
6A North Semi Final Matchups:
Centreville vs Stonewall
and
Lake Braddock vs Westfield
Centreville vs Stonewall
and
Lake Braddock vs Westfield
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:25PM
Greg Stroman. Damn autocorrect.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 10:56PM
Saw LB-Yorktown:
1) LB's kicker put every KO into the end zone
2) LB's QB threw and ran like he did vs SoCo
3) Yorktown had no starting QB and a part-time Stewart due to injuries
4) In the first half, Yorktown fumbled on 1st and 10 at the LB 13 and later couldn't convert on 4th down inside the 15. It was 14-7 until 10 seconds left in the 2nd. On 4th down from around Yorktown's 40, LB's QB broke a potential sack and threw a rope to the end some to make it 20-7. It was game over. The final score 40-7 vs. a depleted underdog felt about right.
Both times I've seen the LB QB he made good reads, threw well, and ran vertically whenever he needed yards. Having seen LB score 85 points in 2 games now, I think this team's air game could give anybody trouble. If you want to beat LB, you better pressure the QB. Otherwise, he will create plus he has receivers who can go up and get the ball.
A good W for LB and a good experience for a former D5 moving up to the big time.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2013 11:00PM by EasternVaFan.
1) LB's kicker put every KO into the end zone
2) LB's QB threw and ran like he did vs SoCo
3) Yorktown had no starting QB and a part-time Stewart due to injuries
4) In the first half, Yorktown fumbled on 1st and 10 at the LB 13 and later couldn't convert on 4th down inside the 15. It was 14-7 until 10 seconds left in the 2nd. On 4th down from around Yorktown's 40, LB's QB broke a potential sack and threw a rope to the end some to make it 20-7. It was game over. The final score 40-7 vs. a depleted underdog felt about right.
Both times I've seen the LB QB he made good reads, threw well, and ran vertically whenever he needed yards. Having seen LB score 85 points in 2 games now, I think this team's air game could give anybody trouble. If you want to beat LB, you better pressure the QB. Otherwise, he will create plus he has receivers who can go up and get the ball.
A good W for LB and a good experience for a former D5 moving up to the big time.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2013 11:00PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:06PM
Hey all, back from the CVille SOCO game. Just to show you that a homer CVille can call a spade a spade I almost shit my pants in the first half. SOCO came out 21-0 on the strength of a real hectic no huddle offense and some well placed onside kicks. Congrats to them for the really good haymaker they put on the Wildcats the first half. I was extremely impressed and happy to admit nervous as hell watching the first half (smile).
Thank goodness from there we outscored them 55-14 going away but it was still a game midway into the third quarter. The defense finally made some adjustments and AJ Turner and Chad Wiggins showed why they are bona fide stars - making plays all over the place.
Immediate judgements (I will have more when my heart jumps back into my body:
(1) Good wake up call for the Cats, don't think they took them too lightly but of course they needed a challenge and they sure go it tonite
(2) Coaches there will need to work a lot on the defense against the option and spread (and no huddle) because of course other teams will try to duplicate SOCO's early success
(3) Strange aberration tonite CVille just did not tackle well, do not expect to see that again
(4) In any event great teams do not fold under the pressure and get back up after haymakers. Thank god CVille did just that. Onward and upward....
(5) Finally not quite ready to call myself a dumbshit yet (smile)
Thank goodness from there we outscored them 55-14 going away but it was still a game midway into the third quarter. The defense finally made some adjustments and AJ Turner and Chad Wiggins showed why they are bona fide stars - making plays all over the place.
Immediate judgements (I will have more when my heart jumps back into my body:
(1) Good wake up call for the Cats, don't think they took them too lightly but of course they needed a challenge and they sure go it tonite
(2) Coaches there will need to work a lot on the defense against the option and spread (and no huddle) because of course other teams will try to duplicate SOCO's early success
(3) Strange aberration tonite CVille just did not tackle well, do not expect to see that again
(4) In any event great teams do not fold under the pressure and get back up after haymakers. Thank god CVille did just that. Onward and upward....
(5) Finally not quite ready to call myself a dumbshit yet (smile)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:07PM
By the way the final score was 55-35
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
After all that...
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:18PM
Centreville still won!!! They had to play against SoCo who executed a flawless game and the refs. SoCo recovered 2 onside kicks, converted on a fake punt and scored on a fake field goal.
As for the refs, Centreville had 3 TD's called back due to bullshit calls. And did I mention the bullshit calls? They were all against centreville! I've never in my life have any seen anything like it. It was so obvious that the Refs were on Soco's payroll.
Anyway, great game SoCo, if it were any other team you would have blown them out. Unfortunately, it wasn't any other team, it was the CENTREVILLE WILDCATS!!!!
As for the refs, Centreville had 3 TD's called back due to bullshit calls. And did I mention the bullshit calls? They were all against centreville! I've never in my life have any seen anything like it. It was so obvious that the Refs were on Soco's payroll.
Anyway, great game SoCo, if it were any other team you would have blown them out. Unfortunately, it wasn't any other team, it was the CENTREVILLE WILDCATS!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:18PM
Soco had quite phenomenal luck. 2 onside kicks they recovered went of Centreville players' hands. They ran at least one, maybe two fake punts that went for first downs and a fake field goal that scored a touchdown. Pannoni acted like he was playing madden, with all sorts of odd calls. But I give him credit for that, pulling out all the stops like that. I personally think the second half was more representative of what Centreville is than the first, but either way, it's quite a wake up call for them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:18PM
I did not see cville since about the middle of last year and thought that they may have some trouble with the triple option. They came out flat, had trouble with their assignments and when they did get the assignments right SoCo backs broke tackles on about every play (through middle of 2nd qtr.). CVille had particular trouble with plays that involved misdirection. On offense SoCo loaded up the box and bottled up CVille until they started throwing short passes that got their play makers in open space and one on one with SoCo defenders. Once in open space and one on one it was easy going for CVille. On coaching Pannoni pulled out all the stops going for it on fourth down in most cases, tried and recovered two and possibly three on side kickoffs and at least two successful fake punts. It is unfortunate that the refs were an issue as well because this was one of the worst games for officiating that I have ever seen. For a while it appeared that they were going to affect the outcome of the game and that is unfortunate for that to happen in a playoff game. Phantom interference calls, holding calls, and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties which may have been the only thing that they did correctly. Not necessarily the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty calls which were bad but making the calls to keep the game under control. Wiggins had a huge game on defense and Nickens-Yzer and Turner had huge games on offense. Walters had his usual game, nothing spectacular but ran the ball well when needed, was fairly accurate on his short throws and had enough attempts down field to open up the running game. The only injury for CVille that I could see was John Jennings and it appeared that he either had a lower leg bruise or high ankle sprain.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:18PM
I did not see cville since about the middle of last year and thought that they may have some trouble with the triple option. They came out flat, had trouble with their assignments and when they did get the assignments right SoCo backs broke tackles on about every play (through middle of 2nd qtr.). CVille had particular trouble with plays that involved misdirection. On offense SoCo loaded up the box and bottled up CVille until they started throwing short passes that got their play makers in open space and one on one with SoCo defenders. Once in open space and one on one it was easy going for CVille. On coaching Pannoni pulled out all the stops going for it on fourth down in most cases, tried and recovered two and possibly three on side kickoffs and at least two successful fake punts. It is unfortunate that the refs were an issue as well because this was one of the worst games for officiating that I have ever seen. For a while it appeared that they were going to affect the outcome of the game and that is unfortunate for that to happen in a playoff game. Phantom interference calls, holding calls, and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties which may have been the only thing that they did correctly. Not necessarily the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty calls which were bad but making the calls to keep the game under control. Wiggins had a huge game on defense and Nickens-Yzer and Turner had huge games on offense. Walters had his usual game, nothing spectacular but ran the ball well when needed, was fairly accurate on his short throws and had enough attempts down field to open up the running game. The only injury for CVille that I could see was John Jennings and it appeared that he either had a lower leg bruise or high ankle sprain.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:24PM
Thanks to the other commenters. Agree with the terrible officiating, luck on some of the go-for-it calls that Pannoni made, etc. but still want to give SOCO due credit. They came to play and for a half had us believing they just might pull it off. Agreed good half time adjustments by CVille and the fact that Turner and Wiggins are just supernatural took over....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yes indeed
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:49PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Thanks to the other commenters. Agree with the
> terrible officiating, luck on some of the
> go-for-it calls that Pannoni made, etc. but still
> want to give SOCO due credit. They came to play
> and for a half had us believing they just might
> pull it off. Agreed good half time adjustments by
> CVille and the fact that Turner and Wiggins are
> just supernatural took over....
Just getting back from the game. What A Game!!! Hats off to the Centreville Wildcats. As you guys were down, I looked at the sidelines and saw how you guys kept your composure. Truly Remarkable. In addition to Turner and wiggins who played lights out, Taylor Boose came through big time! Gave us the yards when we needed the most. Oh an also hats off to Nickens-Yzer for hanging in there. Apparently he was in so much pain he could only play defense and made some crucial plays.
Who else am I forgetting...
-------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks to the other commenters. Agree with the
> terrible officiating, luck on some of the
> go-for-it calls that Pannoni made, etc. but still
> want to give SOCO due credit. They came to play
> and for a half had us believing they just might
> pull it off. Agreed good half time adjustments by
> CVille and the fact that Turner and Wiggins are
> just supernatural took over....
Just getting back from the game. What A Game!!! Hats off to the Centreville Wildcats. As you guys were down, I looked at the sidelines and saw how you guys kept your composure. Truly Remarkable. In addition to Turner and wiggins who played lights out, Taylor Boose came through big time! Gave us the yards when we needed the most. Oh an also hats off to Nickens-Yzer for hanging in there. Apparently he was in so much pain he could only play defense and made some crucial plays.
Who else am I forgetting...
Re: Westfield 21 Robinson 14
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:52PM
A tight game pretty much from start to finish. Overall Westfield had the better running game, Robinson had the better passing game.
Both teams held the ball well – a lot of time-consuming drives. Westfield sustained a few of their drives by putting Devon Burns at QB again. I’d guess they ran nearly 10 plays with Burns at QB – and most of them were for decent yardage – Burns had 6 carries for 72 yards according to WP (not including the obligatory 40+ yard run called back on a penalty - Westfield always has at least 1 or 2 or 3 big plays called back per game).
Westfield defense had 1 bad series in the second half – started with a roughing the passer penalty (on an incomplete pass) and followed it up a few plays later by leaving Ackerman by himself on a 31 yard TD pass. I don’t think there was a Westfield player within 20 yards of him. Was not a trick play.
#30 Savon Martin had a couple of impact plays in the second half – a big -13 sack of Rowlett and a -3 yard tackle for loss on Wilson.
Wilson broke a big run to the outside in the second half after a Westfield punt – 33 yard gainer - and I thought it was a sure TD but Westfield’s DB’s ran him down. I was sorta surprised at that – when I saw #32 get the sideline I was certain it was going to be a TD.
But I suppose the story of the game has to be the running of Tyler Thrasher-Walker – despite everyone knowing they were going to run and #22 was going to get the carry : WP has him at 207 yards on 29 carries for the game. Scored 3 TD’s. Westfield has given Evan Gray only 6 carries in their 2 playoff games. Passing game for Westfield? Non-existent. I don’t recall Scoville completing a single pass the entire game. Not saying he didn’t but none come to mind.
Robinson was tenacious and stayed in this game until the end when they finally went out on downs with about 1:35 left in the game around the Westfield 40. They had their chances – late 3rd or early 4th quarter they had a dropped pass on a wide-open play that would have been a nice gainer and kept the chains moving. That was a big unforced error.
Westfield #29 Rashuane Rice had the game’s only interception – on Robinson’s second or third series - and a good return deep into Robinson territory (he’s also the DB that ran down Wilson).
Special teams played a big role – Robinson’s punter hit a couple of nice punts including pinning Westfield at the 2 yard line at one point. Westfield’s punter also had a big punt leaving Robinson at their 5 yard line in the 4th quarter down by 7. Westfield’s kicker missed a FG right before the half (missed one last week also) – looked like about 39 yarder.
Not a lot of big plays in this game – both teams seemed to play it safe and not take many risks.
Both teams held the ball well – a lot of time-consuming drives. Westfield sustained a few of their drives by putting Devon Burns at QB again. I’d guess they ran nearly 10 plays with Burns at QB – and most of them were for decent yardage – Burns had 6 carries for 72 yards according to WP (not including the obligatory 40+ yard run called back on a penalty - Westfield always has at least 1 or 2 or 3 big plays called back per game).
Westfield defense had 1 bad series in the second half – started with a roughing the passer penalty (on an incomplete pass) and followed it up a few plays later by leaving Ackerman by himself on a 31 yard TD pass. I don’t think there was a Westfield player within 20 yards of him. Was not a trick play.
#30 Savon Martin had a couple of impact plays in the second half – a big -13 sack of Rowlett and a -3 yard tackle for loss on Wilson.
Wilson broke a big run to the outside in the second half after a Westfield punt – 33 yard gainer - and I thought it was a sure TD but Westfield’s DB’s ran him down. I was sorta surprised at that – when I saw #32 get the sideline I was certain it was going to be a TD.
But I suppose the story of the game has to be the running of Tyler Thrasher-Walker – despite everyone knowing they were going to run and #22 was going to get the carry : WP has him at 207 yards on 29 carries for the game. Scored 3 TD’s. Westfield has given Evan Gray only 6 carries in their 2 playoff games. Passing game for Westfield? Non-existent. I don’t recall Scoville completing a single pass the entire game. Not saying he didn’t but none come to mind.
Robinson was tenacious and stayed in this game until the end when they finally went out on downs with about 1:35 left in the game around the Westfield 40. They had their chances – late 3rd or early 4th quarter they had a dropped pass on a wide-open play that would have been a nice gainer and kept the chains moving. That was a big unforced error.
Westfield #29 Rashuane Rice had the game’s only interception – on Robinson’s second or third series - and a good return deep into Robinson territory (he’s also the DB that ran down Wilson).
Special teams played a big role – Robinson’s punter hit a couple of nice punts including pinning Westfield at the 2 yard line at one point. Westfield’s punter also had a big punt leaving Robinson at their 5 yard line in the 4th quarter down by 7. Westfield’s kicker missed a FG right before the half (missed one last week also) – looked like about 39 yarder.
Not a lot of big plays in this game – both teams seemed to play it safe and not take many risks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:55PM
Thanks for the report on the Westfield Robinson game!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOCO
()
Date: November 22, 2013 11:57PM
There wasn't any coaching adjustments a on offense for cville... Number 28 for SOCO MLB got hurt and could not return to the game sending in a freshman.. Luck goes to cville not SOCO
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:08AM
Ok after playing it straight and eating crow I am now ready to respond in kind to comments like that. Don't believe that any #28 being lost meant 55 points for CVille do you? Or secondarily why doesn't SOCO have something more than a freshman to back up at MLB? Or third how much did you pay those refs...I am an old ref myself so don't like to play this card but I will with this one - most one side reffing I have ever seen.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:12AM
This was payment for all the blown regular season games(see chantilly)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757inthehouse
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:16AM
I came up from Hampton to watch my grandson play against Centerville
I also saw them play Braddock a few weeks back.
Hats off to Centerville for the comeback victory over South County who some called on here, a average NOVA team.I thought they was better then people give them credit for on here.
After watching this game, I now see Braddock as the top team from NOVA, they are more similar to the 757 teams.They have a good mix of passing and running and could give the South teams problems.They have some real good athletes at receiver and real big and strong too. The Qb is a big fellow who runs strong and throws the ball down field.
I still think Centerville is a very good team, but not as good as everybody thought they was. The 757 teams do much better against the run first teams.
I do like they defense, big strong players hard to run against.
Good luck to all the NOVA teams
I also saw them play Braddock a few weeks back.
Hats off to Centerville for the comeback victory over South County who some called on here, a average NOVA team.I thought they was better then people give them credit for on here.
After watching this game, I now see Braddock as the top team from NOVA, they are more similar to the 757 teams.They have a good mix of passing and running and could give the South teams problems.They have some real good athletes at receiver and real big and strong too. The Qb is a big fellow who runs strong and throws the ball down field.
I still think Centerville is a very good team, but not as good as everybody thought they was. The 757 teams do much better against the run first teams.
I do like they defense, big strong players hard to run against.
Good luck to all the NOVA teams
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Spot on
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:18AM
Pannoni is the best coach in the area
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Best Game of the Night
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:33AM
Broad Run upsets Stone Bridge 23 - 21 after getting pounded by them earlier in the year.
Hats off to BR Coach Matt Griffis, who coached with SB Coach Thompson for years.
Re-match with Briar Woods, who destroyed Mountain View, does not look easy for Broad Run, but they will make it closer than last time.
Just an excellent high school football game. 1st victory for Broad Run over Stone Bridge ever!
Haven't seen any Falls Church posts. Was that game postponed or something?
Hats off to BR Coach Matt Griffis, who coached with SB Coach Thompson for years.
Re-match with Briar Woods, who destroyed Mountain View, does not look easy for Broad Run, but they will make it closer than last time.
Just an excellent high school football game. 1st victory for Broad Run over Stone Bridge ever!
Haven't seen any Falls Church posts. Was that game postponed or something?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:39AM
Massaponnax beat Falls Church 55-21
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Best Game of the Night
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:42AM
Sorry, hsfballfan... I was just being sarcastic.
I knew that Falls Church had their hats handed to them.
Still waiting to see any posts from Falls Church fans....
I knew that Falls Church had their hats handed to them.
Still waiting to see any posts from Falls Church fans....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:49AM
Yes indeed Wrote:
> Just getting back from the game. What A Game!!!
> Hats off to the Centreville Wildcats. As you guys
> were down, I looked at the sidelines and saw how
> you guys kept your composure. Truly Remarkable. In
> addition to Turner and wiggins who played lights
> out, Taylor Boose came through big time! Gave us
> the yards when we needed the most. Oh an also hats
> off to Nickens-Yzer for hanging in there.
> Apparently he was in so much pain he could only
> play defense and made some crucial plays.
>
> Who else am I forgetting...
You are forgetting Scotty Walter. Down 21-0, he threw for 2 TDs in less than 3 minutes to end the half, then ran 30 yards for a TD to tie the score 21-21 early in the 3rd.
> Just getting back from the game. What A Game!!!
> Hats off to the Centreville Wildcats. As you guys
> were down, I looked at the sidelines and saw how
> you guys kept your composure. Truly Remarkable. In
> addition to Turner and wiggins who played lights
> out, Taylor Boose came through big time! Gave us
> the yards when we needed the most. Oh an also hats
> off to Nickens-Yzer for hanging in there.
> Apparently he was in so much pain he could only
> play defense and made some crucial plays.
>
> Who else am I forgetting...
You are forgetting Scotty Walter. Down 21-0, he threw for 2 TDs in less than 3 minutes to end the half, then ran 30 yards for a TD to tie the score 21-21 early in the 3rd.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really??
()
Date: November 23, 2013 01:44AM
757inthehouse Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I came up from Hampton to watch my grandson play
> against Centerville
> I also saw them play Braddock a few weeks back.
>
>
> Hats off to Centerville for the comeback victory
> over South County who some called on here, a
> average NOVA team.I thought they was better then
> people give them credit for on here.
>
> After watching this game, I now see Braddock as
> the top team from NOVA, they are more similar to
> the 757 teams.They have a good mix of passing and
> running and could give the South teams
> problems.They have some real good athletes at
> receiver and real big and strong too. The Qb is a
> big fellow who runs strong and throws the ball
> down field.
>
> I still think Centerville is a very good team, but
> not as good as everybody thought they was. The 757
> teams do much better against the run first teams.
> I do like they defense, big strong players hard to
> run against.
>
> Good luck to all the NOVA teams
Centreville had not one but 3 touchdowns called back!!! Trust me they are good. Especially if they could beat an excellent team 76 - 35. Oh that's right, 3 TD's were called back so 55-35.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I came up from Hampton to watch my grandson play
> against Centerville
> I also saw them play Braddock a few weeks back.
>
>
> Hats off to Centerville for the comeback victory
> over South County who some called on here, a
> average NOVA team.I thought they was better then
> people give them credit for on here.
>
> After watching this game, I now see Braddock as
> the top team from NOVA, they are more similar to
> the 757 teams.They have a good mix of passing and
> running and could give the South teams
> problems.They have some real good athletes at
> receiver and real big and strong too. The Qb is a
> big fellow who runs strong and throws the ball
> down field.
>
> I still think Centerville is a very good team, but
> not as good as everybody thought they was. The 757
> teams do much better against the run first teams.
> I do like they defense, big strong players hard to
> run against.
>
> Good luck to all the NOVA teams
Centreville had not one but 3 touchdowns called back!!! Trust me they are good. Especially if they could beat an excellent team 76 - 35. Oh that's right, 3 TD's were called back so 55-35.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldog backer
()
Date: November 23, 2013 02:05AM
So Cool Wrote:
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> Robinson V. Westfield is the 'Game of the Week'
> for both Gameday Magazine and WUSA9. Highlights
> of the game will be on WUSA 9 tonight. Go Rams!
As usual you guys choke against Westfield! Pack your shit away and get ready for basketball and wrestling. Maybe they can win something.
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> Robinson V. Westfield is the 'Game of the Week'
> for both Gameday Magazine and WUSA9. Highlights
> of the game will be on WUSA 9 tonight. Go Rams!
As usual you guys choke against Westfield! Pack your shit away and get ready for basketball and wrestling. Maybe they can win something.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
FU JaguarH8ter
()
Date: November 23, 2013 02:10AM
Best Game of the Night Wrote:
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> Sorry, hsfballfan... I was just being sarcastic.
>
> I knew that Falls Church had their hats handed to
> them.
>
> Still waiting to see any posts from Falls Church
> fans....
Very proud of the Jags! The demographics are turning in their favor, and we look forward to their returning to a State championship soon, for the first time since 1976!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, hsfballfan... I was just being sarcastic.
>
> I knew that Falls Church had their hats handed to
> them.
>
> Still waiting to see any posts from Falls Church
> fans....
Very proud of the Jags! The demographics are turning in their favor, and we look forward to their returning to a State championship soon, for the first time since 1976!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jimmy jam it harder
()
Date: November 23, 2013 02:20AM
Jimmy Jam Wrote:
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> About that C'ville state championship run....put
> it on hold.
>
> Halftime: SoCo 21, Chokeville 14.
What was the final gag boy? Choke on the 55 we jammed down SoCos throat after they couldn't pull any more shit out of their ass. Hard to beat another team and the officials as well. Anyone who watched this game saw the worst officiated game this year. As close to being cheated as I have ever seen.
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> About that C'ville state championship run....put
> it on hold.
>
> Halftime: SoCo 21, Chokeville 14.
What was the final gag boy? Choke on the 55 we jammed down SoCos throat after they couldn't pull any more shit out of their ass. Hard to beat another team and the officials as well. Anyone who watched this game saw the worst officiated game this year. As close to being cheated as I have ever seen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Keeping it realll
()
Date: November 23, 2013 03:26AM
After watching the Centreville-South County game a few things were evident.
1) South County's offense is the best I have seen so far. 99 yard touchdown drive on suppository the best defense in the state.
2) Centreville has all of the championship components. No turnovers, little mistakes.
3) South County beat themselves. 4 (5?) turnovers
4) South County out coached Centreville. Perfectly executing fakes and onside kicks.
5) Centreville vs. LB will surely be a great game.
Major scores of game:
Soco up 21-0
Soco up 21-14 (half)
Tied 35-35 (4th quarter)
Centrevile broke away with a long drive to go up 42-35. After a long Symmes run to the 40 he fumbled. Allowing Cville to go up 49-35 just like that. Ending the game.
1) South County's offense is the best I have seen so far. 99 yard touchdown drive on suppository the best defense in the state.
2) Centreville has all of the championship components. No turnovers, little mistakes.
3) South County beat themselves. 4 (5?) turnovers
4) South County out coached Centreville. Perfectly executing fakes and onside kicks.
5) Centreville vs. LB will surely be a great game.
Major scores of game:
Soco up 21-0
Soco up 21-14 (half)
Tied 35-35 (4th quarter)
Centrevile broke away with a long drive to go up 42-35. After a long Symmes run to the 40 he fumbled. Allowing Cville to go up 49-35 just like that. Ending the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:07AM
As much as I didnt care for being behind much of the C'ville SoCo game, I dont think anyone can say it wasnt an exciting game. Yes, the officiating was questionable, but you also have to give the SoCo boys credit for an awesome performance.
They may have come in knowing they were underdogs, but that didnt stop them from abusing the Cats early.
Thankfully there were no heartattacks in the stands on either side as this was the most intense game we've seen this year. If anything, its a wake up call to C'ville to remain focused for the remianing games.
And no post would be complete with acknowledging the incredible talent displayed by AJ Turner's mom who belted out a beautiful rendition of the National Anthem at the start of the game!
SoCo team can be proud of their season, and if C'ville goes all the way, that success will be due in part to the lessons from this game!
They may have come in knowing they were underdogs, but that didnt stop them from abusing the Cats early.
Thankfully there were no heartattacks in the stands on either side as this was the most intense game we've seen this year. If anything, its a wake up call to C'ville to remain focused for the remianing games.
And no post would be complete with acknowledging the incredible talent displayed by AJ Turner's mom who belted out a beautiful rendition of the National Anthem at the start of the game!
SoCo team can be proud of their season, and if C'ville goes all the way, that success will be due in part to the lessons from this game!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nuetral fan- Nova fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:37AM
Way to call it like it is Cat Dad, SOCO had 3 TD drives in the first QTR, Cville had 0 first downs in 1st Qtr. SOCO went up 35 to 28 and recovered the onside but then fumbled on next play. That was 1 big momentum swing. once tied SOCO QB had a 40 yard run but credit to Cville running him down blindside tomahawk fumble and Cville went up. When tide SOCO MLB #28 went out and the young LB that replaced him touched Turner and Boose on their TD runs but just wasn,t strong enough to get them down. I am amazed Cville fans are complaining about calls when on the fake punt the Cville tight end helo soco right in front of the ref and he touched his flag and decided to swallow the whistle. Cvill is a really good team. Turner, Boose, and Tutt are the real deal.From what I hear these kids are very good kids. Wish nothing but Luck to Cville. SOCO kids played great and looks Like they rushed for 400 yards and dominated Cville Dline. Cville is a big play team their stud athletes can house the ball at any moment. Credit to Cville with a hand in 1 of the fumbles but SOCO hurt themselves with fumbles 4 and you don't win with 5 turnovers no matter how great your offense plays. To be honest I think that will be the hardest game Cville has the rest of the way. The triple option is hard to defend and no one can just copy that in a week or 2, that takes weeks and weeks to learn and perfect. Go back and watch on gameday and you will see most of the calls were good.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nuetral fan- Nova fan ()
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:40AM
When TIED 35 to 35MLB #28 went out and the young LB that replaced him --mispelled above
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:59AM
Nice highlights here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K0IsGONG0M&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXE4uz2-rzyIHCpdJpkAyyw
Ouch! I was referring to at 2:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K0IsGONG0M&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXE4uz2-rzyIHCpdJpkAyyw
Ouch! I was referring to at 2:33
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOT SO nuetral fan -Nova fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:14AM
nuetral fan- Nova fan Wrote:
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> Way to call it like it is Cat Dad, SOCO had 3 TD
> drives in the first QTR, Cville had 0 first downs
> in 1st Qtr. SOCO went up 35 to 28 and recovered
> the onside but then fumbled on next play. That
> was 1 big momentum swing. once tied SOCO QB had a
> 40 yard run but credit to Cville running him down
> blindside tomahawk fumble and Cville went up.
> When tide SOCO MLB #28 went out and the young LB
> that replaced him touched Turner and Boose on
> their TD runs but just wasn,t strong enough to get
> them down. I am amazed Cville fans are
> complaining about calls when on the fake punt the
> Cville tight end helo soco right in front of the
> ref and he touched his flag and decided to swallow
> the whistle. Cvill is a really good team.
> Turner, Boose, and Tutt are the real deal.From
> what I hear these kids are very good kids. Wish
> nothing but Luck to Cville. SOCO kids played
> great and looks Like they rushed for 400 yards and
> dominated Cville Dline. Cville is a big play
> team their stud athletes can house the ball at any
> moment. Credit to Cville with a hand in 1 of the
> fumbles but SOCO hurt themselves with fumbles 4
> and you don't win with 5 turnovers no matter how
> great your offense plays. To be honest I think
> that will be the hardest game Cville has the rest
> of the way. The triple option is hard to defend
> and no one can just copy that in a week or 2, that
> takes weeks and weeks to learn and perfect. Go
> back and watch on gameday and you will see most of
> the calls were good.
Who do you think your fooling SoCo Dad. If you watched that game as a nuetral fan you had to come away blown away by the one sided officiating against Cville. Watch it on Gameday and explain to me how when the SoCo punt receiver goes to fair catch the punt and muffs it, the back judge blows the play dead before Cville has a chance to recover? How do you go offside when the SoCo center forgets to snap the ball and the officials pick up the flag and give them a do over. What about the phantom pass interference call that extended the SoCo drive in the 4th Qrt when the game was close? There was no Cville player within 10 yards of the play. I could go on and on they threw 24 flags against Cville!
That was the worst officiated game I have ever seen. The thing that boggles the mind is we are in the playoffs and these guys are supposed to be a quality crew. SoCo runs an up tempo offense getting to the ball and running the play quickly, the problem is you still have to be set for a second before the snap. SOCo continually was moving as the ball was snapped. They got called for it a couple of times BUT they could have been called on 90% of their plays. It was almost like the officials just decided to live with it and not flag them for it.
Mr nuetral fan wants to point out a non call on a play where a flag was not thrown, C'MON MAN! Man up and just tell us your upset because your team lost.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Way to call it like it is Cat Dad, SOCO had 3 TD
> drives in the first QTR, Cville had 0 first downs
> in 1st Qtr. SOCO went up 35 to 28 and recovered
> the onside but then fumbled on next play. That
> was 1 big momentum swing. once tied SOCO QB had a
> 40 yard run but credit to Cville running him down
> blindside tomahawk fumble and Cville went up.
> When tide SOCO MLB #28 went out and the young LB
> that replaced him touched Turner and Boose on
> their TD runs but just wasn,t strong enough to get
> them down. I am amazed Cville fans are
> complaining about calls when on the fake punt the
> Cville tight end helo soco right in front of the
> ref and he touched his flag and decided to swallow
> the whistle. Cvill is a really good team.
> Turner, Boose, and Tutt are the real deal.From
> what I hear these kids are very good kids. Wish
> nothing but Luck to Cville. SOCO kids played
> great and looks Like they rushed for 400 yards and
> dominated Cville Dline. Cville is a big play
> team their stud athletes can house the ball at any
> moment. Credit to Cville with a hand in 1 of the
> fumbles but SOCO hurt themselves with fumbles 4
> and you don't win with 5 turnovers no matter how
> great your offense plays. To be honest I think
> that will be the hardest game Cville has the rest
> of the way. The triple option is hard to defend
> and no one can just copy that in a week or 2, that
> takes weeks and weeks to learn and perfect. Go
> back and watch on gameday and you will see most of
> the calls were good.
Who do you think your fooling SoCo Dad. If you watched that game as a nuetral fan you had to come away blown away by the one sided officiating against Cville. Watch it on Gameday and explain to me how when the SoCo punt receiver goes to fair catch the punt and muffs it, the back judge blows the play dead before Cville has a chance to recover? How do you go offside when the SoCo center forgets to snap the ball and the officials pick up the flag and give them a do over. What about the phantom pass interference call that extended the SoCo drive in the 4th Qrt when the game was close? There was no Cville player within 10 yards of the play. I could go on and on they threw 24 flags against Cville!
That was the worst officiated game I have ever seen. The thing that boggles the mind is we are in the playoffs and these guys are supposed to be a quality crew. SoCo runs an up tempo offense getting to the ball and running the play quickly, the problem is you still have to be set for a second before the snap. SOCo continually was moving as the ball was snapped. They got called for it a couple of times BUT they could have been called on 90% of their plays. It was almost like the officials just decided to live with it and not flag them for it.
Mr nuetral fan wants to point out a non call on a play where a flag was not thrown, C'MON MAN! Man up and just tell us your upset because your team lost.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:55AM
Westfield and Braddock, game of the week!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:58AM
NOT SO nuetral fan -Nova fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> That was the worst officiated game I have ever
> seen. The thing that boggles the mind is we are in
> the playoffs and these guys are supposed to be a
> quality crew. SoCo runs an up tempo offense
> getting to the ball and running the play quickly,
> the problem is you still have to be set for a
> second before the snap. SOCo continually was
> moving as the ball was snapped. They got called
> for it a couple of times BUT they could have been
> called on 90% of their plays. It was almost like
> the officials just decided to live with it and not
> flag them for it.
See same commentary about SoCo illegal motion here in this thread:
http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2534&mid=166875368&sid=914&tid=166875368&style=1
-------------------------------------------------------
> That was the worst officiated game I have ever
> seen. The thing that boggles the mind is we are in
> the playoffs and these guys are supposed to be a
> quality crew. SoCo runs an up tempo offense
> getting to the ball and running the play quickly,
> the problem is you still have to be set for a
> second before the snap. SOCo continually was
> moving as the ball was snapped. They got called
> for it a couple of times BUT they could have been
> called on 90% of their plays. It was almost like
> the officials just decided to live with it and not
> flag them for it.
See same commentary about SoCo illegal motion here in this thread:
http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2534&mid=166875368&sid=914&tid=166875368&style=1
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:23AM
How far can LB go this year? Am curious to learn what you think.
I saw LB drop 45 on SoCo and 40 on depleted Yorktown. Everybody knows LB's QB is big and can throw. Yet he also runs well whenever he needs yards. So you have to stay in your zones to keep him behind the line. Otherwise, he will find a lane and pickup 6-10. There's more. LB has a few receivers who downfield jump up and get the ball. That's somewhat of a lost art vs. the days when DBs could bump or shove as long as the ball wasn't in the air yet. Lastly, LB's kicker can put it in the end zone almost every time, the team has a decent run game and a few good athletes on D.
So I LIKE this team a lot, but here's one problem I see. LB's D is not nearly as imposing as the O. Smith team I saw crush defending D5 champ Lake Taylor in the opener, 42-2. Smith's D line looks much tougher--big, physical and quick. Plus, its LBs and CBs get to the ball much quicker than the depleted Yorktown backs who played so far off the line that LB could throw flash screens all night.
LB's passing and balance on O could give any team in the state trouble. Having played for Hampton 1996-98, I feel like D looms large at states. I just wonder if LB's D can hang vs. O. Smith or teams I haven't seen such as C'ville, Westfield, SJ and Ocean Lakes. What do you think at this point?
I saw LB drop 45 on SoCo and 40 on depleted Yorktown. Everybody knows LB's QB is big and can throw. Yet he also runs well whenever he needs yards. So you have to stay in your zones to keep him behind the line. Otherwise, he will find a lane and pickup 6-10. There's more. LB has a few receivers who downfield jump up and get the ball. That's somewhat of a lost art vs. the days when DBs could bump or shove as long as the ball wasn't in the air yet. Lastly, LB's kicker can put it in the end zone almost every time, the team has a decent run game and a few good athletes on D.
So I LIKE this team a lot, but here's one problem I see. LB's D is not nearly as imposing as the O. Smith team I saw crush defending D5 champ Lake Taylor in the opener, 42-2. Smith's D line looks much tougher--big, physical and quick. Plus, its LBs and CBs get to the ball much quicker than the depleted Yorktown backs who played so far off the line that LB could throw flash screens all night.
LB's passing and balance on O could give any team in the state trouble. Having played for Hampton 1996-98, I feel like D looms large at states. I just wonder if LB's D can hang vs. O. Smith or teams I haven't seen such as C'ville, Westfield, SJ and Ocean Lakes. What do you think at this point?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:42AM
Good points, EasternVAFan.
I saw C'Ville last night and can tell you that those dudes can play. SoCo had it going on, but kept fumbling. I can't tell you this any other way: C'Ville unleashed the fury in the last part of the 3rd quarter and the whole 4th quarter. I haven't seen LB or the beach teams teams but C'Ville will be tough to beat if it plays all 4 quarters. That said, the place was dead when it was 21-0.
Posters who questioned its D turned out to be right. SoCo got burned for 2 long TDs in the first half when it had the lead and then gave up 3 long runs for TDs in the 4th when it counted most. Easy to fool that D but give SoCo credit for a good season and its tricky option O.
I saw C'Ville last night and can tell you that those dudes can play. SoCo had it going on, but kept fumbling. I can't tell you this any other way: C'Ville unleashed the fury in the last part of the 3rd quarter and the whole 4th quarter. I haven't seen LB or the beach teams teams but C'Ville will be tough to beat if it plays all 4 quarters. That said, the place was dead when it was 21-0.
Posters who questioned its D turned out to be right. SoCo got burned for 2 long TDs in the first half when it had the lead and then gave up 3 long runs for TDs in the 4th when it counted most. Easy to fool that D but give SoCo credit for a good season and its tricky option O.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:35AM
SECEAST Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Good points, EasternVAFan.
>
> I saw C'Ville last night and can tell you that
> those dudes can play. SoCo had it going on, but
> kept fumbling. I can't tell you this any other
> way: C'Ville unleashed the fury in the last part
> of the 3rd quarter and the whole 4th quarter. I
> haven't seen LB or the beach teams teams but
> C'Ville will be tough to beat if it plays all 4
> quarters. That said, the place was dead when it
> was 21-0.
>
> Posters who questioned its D turned out to be
> right. SoCo got burned for 2 long TDs in the
> first half when it had the lead and then gave up 3
> long runs for TDs in the 4th when it counted most.
> Easy to fool that D but give SoCo credit for a
> good season and its tricky option O.
I am a firm believer that game would have been much easier for Centreville if they scored earlier and were ahead. It would have changed SOCO's play calling in trying to catch up. When CVille finally was up by a TD, SOCO changed their offense a bit by trying to pass more which is definitely not their strength. Since SOCO had the lead, they controlled the game and CVille Defense was struggling with their quick snap offense.
That being said, ANYONE that thinks Cville would struggle to play 4 quarters of quality football since they have not really had to this year is seriously mistaken. Many of these players were on both sides of the ball and played the entire game with BETTER defense in the 4th quarter. Also, I think SOCO's offense ran out of steam as quick offense like that has a hard time doing it for 4 qtrs as many of those fumbled were caused by poor execution from exhaustion. That also goes for their defense. CVIlle also won in spite of the officiating.
Credit to SOCO for calling a good game and shocking CVille but CVille never panicked and kept playing their game.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Good points, EasternVAFan.
>
> I saw C'Ville last night and can tell you that
> those dudes can play. SoCo had it going on, but
> kept fumbling. I can't tell you this any other
> way: C'Ville unleashed the fury in the last part
> of the 3rd quarter and the whole 4th quarter. I
> haven't seen LB or the beach teams teams but
> C'Ville will be tough to beat if it plays all 4
> quarters. That said, the place was dead when it
> was 21-0.
>
> Posters who questioned its D turned out to be
> right. SoCo got burned for 2 long TDs in the
> first half when it had the lead and then gave up 3
> long runs for TDs in the 4th when it counted most.
> Easy to fool that D but give SoCo credit for a
> good season and its tricky option O.
I am a firm believer that game would have been much easier for Centreville if they scored earlier and were ahead. It would have changed SOCO's play calling in trying to catch up. When CVille finally was up by a TD, SOCO changed their offense a bit by trying to pass more which is definitely not their strength. Since SOCO had the lead, they controlled the game and CVille Defense was struggling with their quick snap offense.
That being said, ANYONE that thinks Cville would struggle to play 4 quarters of quality football since they have not really had to this year is seriously mistaken. Many of these players were on both sides of the ball and played the entire game with BETTER defense in the 4th quarter. Also, I think SOCO's offense ran out of steam as quick offense like that has a hard time doing it for 4 qtrs as many of those fumbled were caused by poor execution from exhaustion. That also goes for their defense. CVIlle also won in spite of the officiating.
Credit to SOCO for calling a good game and shocking CVille but CVille never panicked and kept playing their game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:39AM
Where's the poster who bragged this week about LC having the galaxy's best football? I'd appreciate his insight on N. Stafford' easy win over the Tuscarora team he touted and also N. Stafford's win at BW this year. LC has good FB for sure -- but welcome to the world of playing schools of similar size. You are lucky that SB's nemesis, Phoebus, is now D4. Fortunately, the gods of FB have given you Bird in D5 instead. In case you don't know Bird, see who won D6 at UVA last year. That's a division no LC has ever won a title in; hopefully soon you will have a D6 school and find out what Concorde, Patriot and other districts around VA have found. It's hard to title once you get to D5 and D6.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:43AM
Let the prognostication begin for the 6A semis!
Both games - LB/WF and C'ville/SJ should be good, but will they be close?
SJ seems like its on a roll, and WF seems like they are struggling.
Can SJ keep it going and does WF have what it takes to stop LB?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Both games - LB/WF and C'ville/SJ should be good, but will they be close?
SJ seems like its on a roll, and WF seems like they are struggling.
Can SJ keep it going and does WF have what it takes to stop LB?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fc fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:44AM
Even though falls Church lost 55-21 in the second round to the,we are still ridiculously proud of these young men. They made history and did something that hasn't been done since 1976. This was the best FC senior class i have ever seen. Daly, Dupont,Coneys, Mulumba, Mejia, Gray and Trautz lived up to the hype and have left a legacy at Falls Church.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fc fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:49AM
Also its not like FC lost to just any team, they lost to the #6 team in the state. That most D-6 teams in the northern region would lose to.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:54AM
Now that I have gotten over the excitement of the game I am also getting better perspective on Cville's win last night over SOCO.
(1) Football Fever you are right that had CVille gotten ahead (and by the way an AJ Turner interception for TD was called back for BS reasons in the first quarter.
(2) As stressful as the first half was it was probably good for CVille to take a punch like this as their games have simply been way too uncompetitive to this point
(3) They showed tremendous resolve and as another poster suggested above unleashed the fury in the second half. Good for them not to fold the tents at a little adversity.
(4) Of course they need to get by Stroman and Stonewall next week (but after this wake up call I expect they will do that) but then assuming they play Lake Braddock (watch out Braddock fans though for a rejuvenated Westfield team) I think they will be fine. Although excellent, LB's offense is more conventional and I think CVille will be able to contain Henderson to something reasonable (like I have always been saying perhaps 24 points). But previous posters are correct Lake Braddock's defense is just good, not great (plus they lost some significant parts to injury including Lomax just this past week). Still predicting a CVille 35-24 win assuming that will happen.
(5) Finally if we all had to select teams (like grade school dodgeball) if I had the first pick I would be happy to select AJ Turner over anyone in the Northern Region. Best two way player I have seen in a long time....RB, WR, FS, Punt and Kick Returner - just incredible. And by the way, no bullshit with him, love the way he does his job (incredibly of course) and then does not showboat or make any fuss. Just hands the ball to the ref and on to the next thing. Good job young man!
(1) Football Fever you are right that had CVille gotten ahead (and by the way an AJ Turner interception for TD was called back for BS reasons in the first quarter.
(2) As stressful as the first half was it was probably good for CVille to take a punch like this as their games have simply been way too uncompetitive to this point
(3) They showed tremendous resolve and as another poster suggested above unleashed the fury in the second half. Good for them not to fold the tents at a little adversity.
(4) Of course they need to get by Stroman and Stonewall next week (but after this wake up call I expect they will do that) but then assuming they play Lake Braddock (watch out Braddock fans though for a rejuvenated Westfield team) I think they will be fine. Although excellent, LB's offense is more conventional and I think CVille will be able to contain Henderson to something reasonable (like I have always been saying perhaps 24 points). But previous posters are correct Lake Braddock's defense is just good, not great (plus they lost some significant parts to injury including Lomax just this past week). Still predicting a CVille 35-24 win assuming that will happen.
(5) Finally if we all had to select teams (like grade school dodgeball) if I had the first pick I would be happy to select AJ Turner over anyone in the Northern Region. Best two way player I have seen in a long time....RB, WR, FS, Punt and Kick Returner - just incredible. And by the way, no bullshit with him, love the way he does his job (incredibly of course) and then does not showboat or make any fuss. Just hands the ball to the ref and on to the next thing. Good job young man!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just a question
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:54AM
How do you guys think that soco and Yorktown would have done had they not moved up to d6
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:59AM
Predictions for the next round
Centreville 45 Stonewall 28 (don't sleep on Greg Stroman but CVille has now had and withstood its wake up call)
Lake Braddock 35 Westfield 21 (Braddock is nicked up and Westfiled is putting some things together but Braddock will have more than enough)
Prediction for State semis
Centreville 35 Lake Braddock 24 (Both superlative offenses Lake Braddock a 10 and CVille perhaps a 9 but CVille a 9/10 on defense whereas Lake Braddock is more like a 6 - not bad just not great)
Centreville 45 Stonewall 28 (don't sleep on Greg Stroman but CVille has now had and withstood its wake up call)
Lake Braddock 35 Westfield 21 (Braddock is nicked up and Westfiled is putting some things together but Braddock will have more than enough)
Prediction for State semis
Centreville 35 Lake Braddock 24 (Both superlative offenses Lake Braddock a 10 and CVille perhaps a 9 but CVille a 9/10 on defense whereas Lake Braddock is more like a 6 - not bad just not great)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:59AM
make that hsfballfan not hfballfan, sorry
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:02PM
To some previous posts, indeed congrats to Falls Church....love when a team can change around the culture of a program from losing to on the ups. Nicely done!
Think SOCO would have been very competitive in D5 this year on the strength of that offense. But sort of a moot point.....what if Westfield and Centreville were still one school (smile)?
Think SOCO would have been very competitive in D5 this year on the strength of that offense. But sort of a moot point.....what if Westfield and Centreville were still one school (smile)?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
upandcoming
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:12PM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How far can LB go this year? Am curious to learn
> what you think.
>
> I saw LB drop 45 on SoCo and 40 on depleted
> Yorktown. Everybody knows LB's QB is big and can
> throw. Yet he also runs well whenever he needs
> yards. So you have to stay in your zones to keep
> him behind the line. Otherwise, he will find a
> lane and pickup 6-10. There's more. LB has a few
> receivers who downfield jump up and get the ball.
> That's somewhat of a lost art vs. the days when
> DBs could bump or shove as long as the ball
> wasn't in the air yet. Lastly, LB's kicker can put
> it in the end zone almost every time, the team has
> a decent run game and a few good athletes on D.
>
> So I LIKE this team a lot, but here's one problem
> I see. LB's D is not nearly as imposing as the O.
> Smith team I saw crush defending D5 champ Lake
> Taylor in the opener, 42-2. Smith's D line looks
> much tougher--big, physical and quick. Plus, its
> LBs and CBs get to the ball much quicker than the
> depleted Yorktown backs who played so far off the
> line that LB could throw flash screens all night.
>
>
> LB's passing and balance on O could give any team
> in the state trouble. Having played for Hampton
> 1996-98, I feel like D looms large at states. I
> just wonder if LB's D can hang vs. O. Smith or
> teams I haven't seen such as C'ville, Westfield,
> SJ and Ocean Lakes. What do you think at this
> point?
With halftime adjustments on defense, SJ has rallied to win against higher seeded Langley and W-L. Injury prone in the regular season, SJ is finally proving themselves in the playoffs. Stroman, who missed a few games mid-season, is one of the best QBs in the state. He is an excellent dual-threat QB and evaporated W-L's lead in the 4th qtr. W-L had a comeback drive in the final minute to tie the game but was intercepted. Same story with Langley, Behind Stroman's 3 second half rushing TDs, SJ ran up the score, and Langley missed a game tying field goal. The upcoming SJ Centerville game should be fun to watch.
-------------------------------------------------------
> How far can LB go this year? Am curious to learn
> what you think.
>
> I saw LB drop 45 on SoCo and 40 on depleted
> Yorktown. Everybody knows LB's QB is big and can
> throw. Yet he also runs well whenever he needs
> yards. So you have to stay in your zones to keep
> him behind the line. Otherwise, he will find a
> lane and pickup 6-10. There's more. LB has a few
> receivers who downfield jump up and get the ball.
> That's somewhat of a lost art vs. the days when
> DBs could bump or shove as long as the ball
> wasn't in the air yet. Lastly, LB's kicker can put
> it in the end zone almost every time, the team has
> a decent run game and a few good athletes on D.
>
> So I LIKE this team a lot, but here's one problem
> I see. LB's D is not nearly as imposing as the O.
> Smith team I saw crush defending D5 champ Lake
> Taylor in the opener, 42-2. Smith's D line looks
> much tougher--big, physical and quick. Plus, its
> LBs and CBs get to the ball much quicker than the
> depleted Yorktown backs who played so far off the
> line that LB could throw flash screens all night.
>
>
> LB's passing and balance on O could give any team
> in the state trouble. Having played for Hampton
> 1996-98, I feel like D looms large at states. I
> just wonder if LB's D can hang vs. O. Smith or
> teams I haven't seen such as C'ville, Westfield,
> SJ and Ocean Lakes. What do you think at this
> point?
With halftime adjustments on defense, SJ has rallied to win against higher seeded Langley and W-L. Injury prone in the regular season, SJ is finally proving themselves in the playoffs. Stroman, who missed a few games mid-season, is one of the best QBs in the state. He is an excellent dual-threat QB and evaporated W-L's lead in the 4th qtr. W-L had a comeback drive in the final minute to tie the game but was intercepted. Same story with Langley, Behind Stroman's 3 second half rushing TDs, SJ ran up the score, and Langley missed a game tying field goal. The upcoming SJ Centerville game should be fun to watch.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SOCO Fans SUCK
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:13PM
Just want to post the CLASSLESS soco fans last night. Someone told me that a student went over to SOCO's side as part of the 50/50 fundraiser in the first half WHEN THEY WERE WINNING, and they were assholes to him. That was a fundraiser. Never heard that before with any other opposing team and it is sad that they acted that way. While I could wish a number of different dumb things, I think for those close to the game, having that sick feeling in their stomach by having a 3 TD lead against the #1 team then losing significantly is good enough for me and they can stay home for the rest of the tournament. What they may not be aware of is IF THEY HAD WON, they would have been hosting SJ this week as the higher seed. Sucks for SOCO
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:33PM
Have fun at home SOCO, have fun at home thinking about what might have been....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:56PM
Hey Coach, Interesting, CVille Student, others what did you think of the game last night (CVille vs SOCO). Were you there, interested to hear your thoughts if so?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RooBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 01:17PM
SOCO Fans SUCK Wrote:
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> Just want to post the CLASSLESS soco fans last
> night. Someone told me that a student went over
> to SOCO's side as part of the 50/50 fundraiser in
> the first half WHEN THEY WERE WINNING, and they
> were assholes to him. That was a fundraiser.
> Never heard that before with any other opposing
> team and it is sad that they acted that way.
> While I could wish a number of different dumb
> things, I think for those close to the game,
> having that sick feeling in their stomach by
> having a 3 TD lead against the #1 team then losing
> significantly is good enough for me and they can
> stay home for the rest of the tournament. What
> they may not be aware of is IF THEY HAD WON, they
> would have been hosting SJ this week as the higher
> seed. Sucks for SOCO
How about the classless, asshole Centreville parent on their chain crew who got ejected by the refs for clapping in a SoCo coach's face and taunting him. Cops were waiting by the fence to escort him out. Class act, Centreville!
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> Just want to post the CLASSLESS soco fans last
> night. Someone told me that a student went over
> to SOCO's side as part of the 50/50 fundraiser in
> the first half WHEN THEY WERE WINNING, and they
> were assholes to him. That was a fundraiser.
> Never heard that before with any other opposing
> team and it is sad that they acted that way.
> While I could wish a number of different dumb
> things, I think for those close to the game,
> having that sick feeling in their stomach by
> having a 3 TD lead against the #1 team then losing
> significantly is good enough for me and they can
> stay home for the rest of the tournament. What
> they may not be aware of is IF THEY HAD WON, they
> would have been hosting SJ this week as the higher
> seed. Sucks for SOCO
How about the classless, asshole Centreville parent on their chain crew who got ejected by the refs for clapping in a SoCo coach's face and taunting him. Cops were waiting by the fence to escort him out. Class act, Centreville!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 01:19PM
I meant the ROOT from the institute! RootBoy
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hey SECEAST
()
Date: November 23, 2013 01:30PM
Never said Loudoun County was the best, however, it is time that Fairfax folks acknowledge that their neighbors to the north have more quality programs, and are extremely competitive despite being smaller schools.
Tuscarora is the 4th best team in Ashburn/Leesburg area, so yes, expected them to lose to North Stafford. Think I might have even said that on here.
Stone Bridge was down a bit this year, but gave Braddock all it could handle and then some. Anyone who saw the Westfield-Stone Bridge game knows the score was an aberration due to unforced turnovers.
Broad Run mauls Liberty, who then go on a tear.
Woodgrove just destroyed Eastern View.
We in Ashburn know why Mickey Thompson desperately wants to keep playing Fairfax schools. He knows that week in and week out, playing in Fairfax is easier than playing in Loudoun, despite playing schools with much larger enrollments.
Oh, and Briar Woods is going to avenge their loss to North Stafford or beat Massaponex before running into a superior Byrd team in the finals.
And no, we won't have D6 teams in the future because it is no good to pack 2600 - 300 kids in a high school! We'll keep ours at 1600- 2000 and be much happier, thank you.
Tuscarora is the 4th best team in Ashburn/Leesburg area, so yes, expected them to lose to North Stafford. Think I might have even said that on here.
Stone Bridge was down a bit this year, but gave Braddock all it could handle and then some. Anyone who saw the Westfield-Stone Bridge game knows the score was an aberration due to unforced turnovers.
Broad Run mauls Liberty, who then go on a tear.
Woodgrove just destroyed Eastern View.
We in Ashburn know why Mickey Thompson desperately wants to keep playing Fairfax schools. He knows that week in and week out, playing in Fairfax is easier than playing in Loudoun, despite playing schools with much larger enrollments.
Oh, and Briar Woods is going to avenge their loss to North Stafford or beat Massaponex before running into a superior Byrd team in the finals.
And no, we won't have D6 teams in the future because it is no good to pack 2600 - 300 kids in a high school! We'll keep ours at 1600- 2000 and be much happier, thank you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 23, 2013 01:35PM
Just a question Wrote:
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> How do you guys think that soco and Yorktown would
> have done had they not moved up to d6
Good question. SoCo and Yorktown traded D5 playoffs wins vs each other with SoCo winning big in 2011 and Yorktown winning big in 2012. Each won a D6 playoff game this year, so they did what was expected per the seedings. This year vs common opponents ('Tilly, Hayfield and LB), Yorktown went 2-1; SoCo 1-2. Yorktown was so banged up late season (2012 all-met Stewart, the QB, etc.) that it would have been very tough to get back to the region final for a 3rd straight year. Might have even lost in the second round this year. Even though SoCo did worse vs. common opponents, it is not as banged up plus its option is hard to stop unless you see it often in games, practice and on film. Having played v GA TECH, I can tell you that teams with better athletes get fooled just like everybody else does. So SoCo would be a tough draw in D5 North and might still be playing.
But the South has talent in D5 and I don't think SoCo could beat Bird or Lake Taylor. Bird, the 2012 D6 champ, is unbeaten and has wins over defending D5 champ Lake Taylor and Hermy. Lake Taylor has lost only to unbeatens Bird and O. Smith. Lake Taylor muted SB's ESPN stars last year at UVA and has a ton of players back.
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> How do you guys think that soco and Yorktown would
> have done had they not moved up to d6
Good question. SoCo and Yorktown traded D5 playoffs wins vs each other with SoCo winning big in 2011 and Yorktown winning big in 2012. Each won a D6 playoff game this year, so they did what was expected per the seedings. This year vs common opponents ('Tilly, Hayfield and LB), Yorktown went 2-1; SoCo 1-2. Yorktown was so banged up late season (2012 all-met Stewart, the QB, etc.) that it would have been very tough to get back to the region final for a 3rd straight year. Might have even lost in the second round this year. Even though SoCo did worse vs. common opponents, it is not as banged up plus its option is hard to stop unless you see it often in games, practice and on film. Having played v GA TECH, I can tell you that teams with better athletes get fooled just like everybody else does. So SoCo would be a tough draw in D5 North and might still be playing.
But the South has talent in D5 and I don't think SoCo could beat Bird or Lake Taylor. Bird, the 2012 D6 champ, is unbeaten and has wins over defending D5 champ Lake Taylor and Hermy. Lake Taylor has lost only to unbeatens Bird and O. Smith. Lake Taylor muted SB's ESPN stars last year at UVA and has a ton of players back.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nufan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 02:25PM
The comments about the Cville chain gang parent is a bit blown out of portion. True it never should have happened!! He has no kids there. It was a reaction to a coach being up in arms about a blown call by the refs. I am NOT blaming the coach, as I said it never should have happened!! He was not ejected by the refs. The other members of the chain gang removed him from the area and the cops were there the whole time and were not waiting to escort him out. It was a stupid thing to do. Saw the coaching staff and the other members of the chain gang crew talking and getting along just fine after that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 23, 2013 04:00PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster
> that should be added to this board's wall of
> fame...although watch out we have some fans of
> lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us
> CVille homers :)
>
> Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for
> this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done
> nearly enough yet....
>
> CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan,
> RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
Wow, I carried this thread along with spreads and analysis for I don't know how long, years, and not even a consideration for the wall of fame?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey CVille Student!! Now there is another poster
> that should be added to this board's wall of
> fame...although watch out we have some fans of
> lesser teams that are getting "concerned" about us
> CVille homers :)
>
> Here is my growing list of the wall of fame for
> this site. Sorry Root Boy you have not done
> nearly enough yet....
>
> CVille Student, Keep it Real, Coach, EasternVaFan,
> RydellRoad, Interesting, Nat4Lee, others...
Wow, I carried this thread along with spreads and analysis for I don't know how long, years, and not even a consideration for the wall of fame?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 23, 2013 04:50PM
steve k2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Wow, I carried this thread along with spreads and
> analysis for I don't know how long, years, and not
> even a consideration for the wall of fame?
He's a newcomer. That being said I think it's time for another one of your posts...
-------------------------------------------------------
> Wow, I carried this thread along with spreads and
> analysis for I don't know how long, years, and not
> even a consideration for the wall of fame?
He's a newcomer. That being said I think it's time for another one of your posts...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Centreville fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:02PM
Props to south county for throwing several haymakers to go up 21-0 at centreville. But let's talk facts, south county's up tempo offense was impressive. Centreville was extremely flat to start the game (probably because they haven't faced a true test this year like south county). South county was able to run the football and keep centrevilles high powered offense off the field. That being said, south county had several 4th down conversions that most people would have punted on(I understand it worked, so props to them). They needed a fake punt, two onside kicks the centreville had there hands on, and a fake field goal for a touchdown. Once centreville was able to get their offense on the field south county luck ran out. Centreville proceeded to emphatically score 55 points (with 3 touchdowns called back). South county had zero answer, and learned why centreville one of the two best teams in this area. AJ turner is the best football player this area has seen in a long time. He completely dominated the game. Their defense started to settle down and read the option offense better. Long story short, south county pull off several trick/lucky plays the most teams wouldn't try. They were not able to keep up the trickery and Ucentreville proved why they are so unique and dominate. Good luck to both teams in the future.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:16PM
Hey SECEAST Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Never said Loudoun County was the best, however,
> it is time that Fairfax folks acknowledge that
> their neighbors to the north have more quality
> programs, and are extremely competitive despite
> being smaller schools.
>
> Tuscarora is the 4th best team in Ashburn/Leesburg
> area, so yes, expected them to lose to North
> Stafford. Think I might have even said that on
> here.
>
> Stone Bridge was down a bit this year, but gave
> Braddock all it could handle and then some. Anyone
> who saw the Westfield-Stone Bridge game knows the
> score was an aberration due to unforced turnovers.
>
>
> Broad Run mauls Liberty, who then go on a tear.
>
> Woodgrove just destroyed Eastern View.
>
> We in Ashburn know why Mickey Thompson desperately
> wants to keep playing Fairfax schools. He knows
> that week in and week out, playing in Fairfax is
> easier than playing in Loudoun, despite playing
> schools with much larger enrollments.
>
> Oh, and Briar Woods is going to avenge their loss
> to North Stafford or beat Massaponex before
> running into a superior Byrd team in the finals.
>
> And no, we won't have D6 teams in the future
> because it is no good to pack 2600 - 300 kids in a
> high school! We'll keep ours at 1600- 2000 and be
> much happier, thank you.
-----------------------------
Back to you, HEY SECEAST: You post that LC has “more quality programs” than FC? You must be new or something.
Only 3 LC schools have titled in D4-D5 and all 5 were vs. smaller schools See enrollments in the year the game was played in parenthesis and then ask yourself about BW's 3 titles:
2012 BW (1594) beat Heritage ( 1111)
2011BW (1594) beat Christiansburg, (1062)
2010 BW (1405) beat Harrisonburg (1276).
2009 BR (1603) beat Amherst County (1474)
2008 BR (1479) beat Amherst County (1460)
2007 SB (1709) beat Potomac (1637)
And don't crown that 2007 SB team as NOVA's best; its 1 loss was to Robinson 41-14.
Had BW/BR been in D5 as they should have been, here is who they would have faced:
2012: Lake Taylor, which beat SB at UVA.
2011: Phoebus
2010: Phoebus
2009: Phoebus
2008: Phoebus.
How many titles would you have playing those teams?
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/team_enrollments_by_year.cfm
In contrast with LC, SIX different FC teams have won D6 VA titles in the past 20 years:
Annandale,
Chantilly
Centreville
Westfield
Robinson
Chantilly.
Who has "more quality programs" this year? SB lost to Westfield/LB and squeaked by Fairfax. The losses weren’t aberrations or because of school size. SB had poor ball control just like at UVA last year. BW is finally gets in the right class and immediately gets spanked at home by N. Stafford, 19-7. Tuscarora got crushed last night, 39-20. Does anybody think that BW, BR or SB would beat C'Ville, LB and Westfield?
NOVA football is great, including what's played in both FC and LC. Yet to claim that LC has “more quality programs” than FC is paternalistic at best. You claim foul when LC schools lose to bigger FC schools, yet that is how you won every title. Come back when LC has 6 different schools that win VA titles in the right class. In the meantime, enjoy your “smaller” schools while you can. You see the track housing being built in LC. It won’t be long before those small schools you tout become big schools. Again, you must be new here because the same thing happened to FC after Tysons was built years ago.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Never said Loudoun County was the best, however,
> it is time that Fairfax folks acknowledge that
> their neighbors to the north have more quality
> programs, and are extremely competitive despite
> being smaller schools.
>
> Tuscarora is the 4th best team in Ashburn/Leesburg
> area, so yes, expected them to lose to North
> Stafford. Think I might have even said that on
> here.
>
> Stone Bridge was down a bit this year, but gave
> Braddock all it could handle and then some. Anyone
> who saw the Westfield-Stone Bridge game knows the
> score was an aberration due to unforced turnovers.
>
>
> Broad Run mauls Liberty, who then go on a tear.
>
> Woodgrove just destroyed Eastern View.
>
> We in Ashburn know why Mickey Thompson desperately
> wants to keep playing Fairfax schools. He knows
> that week in and week out, playing in Fairfax is
> easier than playing in Loudoun, despite playing
> schools with much larger enrollments.
>
> Oh, and Briar Woods is going to avenge their loss
> to North Stafford or beat Massaponex before
> running into a superior Byrd team in the finals.
>
> And no, we won't have D6 teams in the future
> because it is no good to pack 2600 - 300 kids in a
> high school! We'll keep ours at 1600- 2000 and be
> much happier, thank you.
-----------------------------
Back to you, HEY SECEAST: You post that LC has “more quality programs” than FC? You must be new or something.
Only 3 LC schools have titled in D4-D5 and all 5 were vs. smaller schools See enrollments in the year the game was played in parenthesis and then ask yourself about BW's 3 titles:
2012 BW (1594) beat Heritage ( 1111)
2011BW (1594) beat Christiansburg, (1062)
2010 BW (1405) beat Harrisonburg (1276).
2009 BR (1603) beat Amherst County (1474)
2008 BR (1479) beat Amherst County (1460)
2007 SB (1709) beat Potomac (1637)
And don't crown that 2007 SB team as NOVA's best; its 1 loss was to Robinson 41-14.
Had BW/BR been in D5 as they should have been, here is who they would have faced:
2012: Lake Taylor, which beat SB at UVA.
2011: Phoebus
2010: Phoebus
2009: Phoebus
2008: Phoebus.
How many titles would you have playing those teams?
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/team_enrollments_by_year.cfm
In contrast with LC, SIX different FC teams have won D6 VA titles in the past 20 years:
Annandale,
Chantilly
Centreville
Westfield
Robinson
Chantilly.
Who has "more quality programs" this year? SB lost to Westfield/LB and squeaked by Fairfax. The losses weren’t aberrations or because of school size. SB had poor ball control just like at UVA last year. BW is finally gets in the right class and immediately gets spanked at home by N. Stafford, 19-7. Tuscarora got crushed last night, 39-20. Does anybody think that BW, BR or SB would beat C'Ville, LB and Westfield?
NOVA football is great, including what's played in both FC and LC. Yet to claim that LC has “more quality programs” than FC is paternalistic at best. You claim foul when LC schools lose to bigger FC schools, yet that is how you won every title. Come back when LC has 6 different schools that win VA titles in the right class. In the meantime, enjoy your “smaller” schools while you can. You see the track housing being built in LC. It won’t be long before those small schools you tout become big schools. Again, you must be new here because the same thing happened to FC after Tysons was built years ago.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:17PM
Back to you, HEY SECEAST: You post that LC has “more quality programs” than FC? You must be new or something.
Only 3 LC schools have titled in D4-D5 and all 5 were vs. smaller schools See enrollments in the year the game was played in parenthesis and then ask yourself about BW's 3 titles:
2012 BW (1594) beat Heritage ( 1111)
2011BW (1594) beat Christiansburg, (1062)
2010 BW (1405) beat Harrisonburg (1276).
2009 BR (1603) beat Amherst County (1474)
2008 BR (1479) beat Amherst County (1460)
2007 SB (1709) beat Potomac (1637)
And don't crown that 2007 SB team as NOVA's best; its 1 loss was to Robinson 41-14.
Had BW/BR been in D5 as they should have been, here is who they would have faced:
2012: Lake Taylor, which beat SB at UVA.
2011: Phoebus
2010: Phoebus
2009: Phoebus
2008: Phoebus.
How many titles would you have playing those teams?
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/team_enrollments_by_year.cfm
In contrast with LC, SIX different FC teams have won D6 VA titles in the past 20 years:
Annandale,
Chantilly
Centreville
Westfield
Robinson
Chantilly.
Who has "more quality programs" this year? SB lost to Westfield/LB and squeaked by Fairfax. The losses weren’t aberrations or because of school size. SB had poor ball control just like at UVA last year. BW is finally gets in the right class and immediately gets spanked at home by N. Stafford, 19-7. Tuscarora got crushed last night, 39-20. Does anybody think that BW, BR or SB would beat C'Ville, LB and Westfield?
NOVA football is great, including what's played in both FC and LC. Yet to claim that LC has “more quality programs” than FC is paternalistic at best. You claim foul when LC schools lose to bigger FC schools, yet that is how you won every title. Come back when LC has 6 different schools that win VA titles in the right class. In the meantime, enjoy your “smaller” schools while you can. You see the track housing being built in LC. It won’t be long before those small schools you tout become big schools. Again, you must be new here because the same thing happened to FC after Tysons was built years ago.
Only 3 LC schools have titled in D4-D5 and all 5 were vs. smaller schools See enrollments in the year the game was played in parenthesis and then ask yourself about BW's 3 titles:
2012 BW (1594) beat Heritage ( 1111)
2011BW (1594) beat Christiansburg, (1062)
2010 BW (1405) beat Harrisonburg (1276).
2009 BR (1603) beat Amherst County (1474)
2008 BR (1479) beat Amherst County (1460)
2007 SB (1709) beat Potomac (1637)
And don't crown that 2007 SB team as NOVA's best; its 1 loss was to Robinson 41-14.
Had BW/BR been in D5 as they should have been, here is who they would have faced:
2012: Lake Taylor, which beat SB at UVA.
2011: Phoebus
2010: Phoebus
2009: Phoebus
2008: Phoebus.
How many titles would you have playing those teams?
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/team_enrollments_by_year.cfm
In contrast with LC, SIX different FC teams have won D6 VA titles in the past 20 years:
Annandale,
Chantilly
Centreville
Westfield
Robinson
Chantilly.
Who has "more quality programs" this year? SB lost to Westfield/LB and squeaked by Fairfax. The losses weren’t aberrations or because of school size. SB had poor ball control just like at UVA last year. BW is finally gets in the right class and immediately gets spanked at home by N. Stafford, 19-7. Tuscarora got crushed last night, 39-20. Does anybody think that BW, BR or SB would beat C'Ville, LB and Westfield?
NOVA football is great, including what's played in both FC and LC. Yet to claim that LC has “more quality programs” than FC is paternalistic at best. You claim foul when LC schools lose to bigger FC schools, yet that is how you won every title. Come back when LC has 6 different schools that win VA titles in the right class. In the meantime, enjoy your “smaller” schools while you can. You see the track housing being built in LC. It won’t be long before those small schools you tout become big schools. Again, you must be new here because the same thing happened to FC after Tysons was built years ago.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Keeping it realll
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:28PM
South County also had a touchdown called back, so that really is not a valid point. One of Centreville's TDs got called back because a block in the back. That's just careless football. Ref is going to call that every time. We all know Centreville is the better team, but South County was there hardest test by far. Had the game win until the 4th quarter.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:33PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey Coach, Interesting, CVille Student, others
> what did you think of the game last night (CVille
> vs SOCO). Were you there, interested to hear your
> thoughts if so?
I was there and hats off to South County. They really outplayed Cville for a large portion of the game. Yes, the refs made some horrible calls, but that doesn't change the fact that SoCo controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball in the 1st half. SoCos fast paced offense kept Cville's defense on their heels. I would love to see the time of possession in the 1st half. Cville only had 13 offensive plays compared to SoCo 65ish offensive plays. If SoCo game plan was to keep Cville's high powered offense off the field, they did that well, successfully converting on-side kicks, fake punts, and sustaining long drives (one was 99.5 yards!)
Down 21-0, Scotty Walters deserves a game ball for throwing 2 TDs in 4 plays with about 3 minutes remaining in the 1st half, and then running a 30 yard TD in the 1st drive of the 2nd half to tie the score 21-21. After being mostly shutdown in the 1st half, Turner and Boose had tremendous 2nd half outings.
With Cville up by 7 in the 4th Q, Cville gave SoCo a taste of their own medicine when they converted a fake punt from the 50ish yard line on 4th and 7. Boose rumbled for about 20 yards and that play put the nail in the coffin. It only took AJ Turner 1 additional run to put the ball in the end zone.
As you said, it was definitely a wake-up call for Cville, but I think they are up the the challenge.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey Coach, Interesting, CVille Student, others
> what did you think of the game last night (CVille
> vs SOCO). Were you there, interested to hear your
> thoughts if so?
I was there and hats off to South County. They really outplayed Cville for a large portion of the game. Yes, the refs made some horrible calls, but that doesn't change the fact that SoCo controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball in the 1st half. SoCos fast paced offense kept Cville's defense on their heels. I would love to see the time of possession in the 1st half. Cville only had 13 offensive plays compared to SoCo 65ish offensive plays. If SoCo game plan was to keep Cville's high powered offense off the field, they did that well, successfully converting on-side kicks, fake punts, and sustaining long drives (one was 99.5 yards!)
Down 21-0, Scotty Walters deserves a game ball for throwing 2 TDs in 4 plays with about 3 minutes remaining in the 1st half, and then running a 30 yard TD in the 1st drive of the 2nd half to tie the score 21-21. After being mostly shutdown in the 1st half, Turner and Boose had tremendous 2nd half outings.
With Cville up by 7 in the 4th Q, Cville gave SoCo a taste of their own medicine when they converted a fake punt from the 50ish yard line on 4th and 7. Boose rumbled for about 20 yards and that play put the nail in the coffin. It only took AJ Turner 1 additional run to put the ball in the end zone.
As you said, it was definitely a wake-up call for Cville, but I think they are up the the challenge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Centreville fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:41PM
Please don't bring the refs into it. Centreville had 24 penalties called on the vs how many on south county. South county was a test and only a test. After their excitement died down. They were out played 55-14. South county had the game at 21-0. There is no reason to let a team score 14 points with less the 3 mins in a half. The momentum changed then. No disrespect to south county players and coaches, I thought they played on hell of a game. But still at the end of the day, centreville won by 20, and showed their dominance once again. That doesn't happen by accident in d6 playoffs. This could have been the worse thing that could happen to the remaining teams left. Centreville is battle tested, and will most likely not come out flat again and overlook teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 05:45PM
Hey Steve K2 no disrespect. A number of us just have found a bit of community together on this site over the last few weeks and so I thought it would be fun to recognize that....of course who am I to say over the longer haul....if there has been consistent, well reasoned posters over the longer term including yourself that is great and hope you will accept our relatively new conversations.
The thing that has just kept us interested I think is interesting and fun analysis based talk not just "my team is better than your team." We try to back up our statements...
Here is to an even bigger community of hs football lovers!
The thing that has just kept us interested I think is interesting and fun analysis based talk not just "my team is better than your team." We try to back up our statements...
Here is to an even bigger community of hs football lovers!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
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Date: November 23, 2013 05:54PM
Centreville fan Wrote:
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> Centreville
> had 24 penalties called on the vs how many on
> south county.
WP has it:
South County: 10-55
Centreville: 14-125
Interesting stats. SC had 23 first downs and over 500 yards vs. Centreville 16 first downs and over 400 yards. South County had 5 turnovers? I wasn't at the game but -5 in the turnover category would seem to be the key to the game right there.
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> Centreville
> had 24 penalties called on the vs how many on
> south county.
WP has it:
South County: 10-55
Centreville: 14-125
Interesting stats. SC had 23 first downs and over 500 yards vs. Centreville 16 first downs and over 400 yards. South County had 5 turnovers? I wasn't at the game but -5 in the turnover category would seem to be the key to the game right there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Centreville fan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:07PM
Absolutely right newgate. Centrevilles defense got several key turnovers in the second half. One qb strip, fumbled pitch on an option, and and int to seal the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
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Date: November 23, 2013 06:08PM
You have good FB up here, period.
Fairfax County D6 teams have arguably been VA’s best over time.
A few of those teams standout, e.g., that Westfield team with Glennon (sp?).
Your D5 have been good, too, dominated by SB.
But in 2011-2012 SoCo and Yorktown were good, too; the 2012 NR final SB-Yorktown was fun to watch.
Here’s a somewhat contentious point but I’ll make it anyway.
Having seen BW play once in 2012, that team would have done well in D5.
And those SB teams would have done well in D6 most years.
They probably wouldn't have made it to UVA, but only 2 teaam do in class.
Sure, BW was beating much smaller schools in winning its titles.
But I know FB well enough to know a good team when I see one.
I'm not saying BW could beat C'ville, LB or Westfield, though.
These are just my opinions.
Fairfax County D6 teams have arguably been VA’s best over time.
A few of those teams standout, e.g., that Westfield team with Glennon (sp?).
Your D5 have been good, too, dominated by SB.
But in 2011-2012 SoCo and Yorktown were good, too; the 2012 NR final SB-Yorktown was fun to watch.
Here’s a somewhat contentious point but I’ll make it anyway.
Having seen BW play once in 2012, that team would have done well in D5.
And those SB teams would have done well in D6 most years.
They probably wouldn't have made it to UVA, but only 2 teaam do in class.
Sure, BW was beating much smaller schools in winning its titles.
But I know FB well enough to know a good team when I see one.
I'm not saying BW could beat C'ville, LB or Westfield, though.
These are just my opinions.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:10PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Hey Steve K2 no disrespect. A number of us just
> have found a bit of community together on this
> site over the last few weeks and so I thought it
> would be fun to recognize that....of course who am
> I to say over the longer haul....if there has been
> consistent, well reasoned posters over the longer
> term including yourself that is great and hope you
> will accept our relatively new conversations.
>
> The thing that has just kept us interested I think
> is interesting and fun analysis based talk not
> just "my team is better than your team." We try
> to back up our statements...
>
> Here is to an even bigger community of hs football
> lovers!
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Totally agree--and Steve K2 has amazed me with his spreads.
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> Hey Steve K2 no disrespect. A number of us just
> have found a bit of community together on this
> site over the last few weeks and so I thought it
> would be fun to recognize that....of course who am
> I to say over the longer haul....if there has been
> consistent, well reasoned posters over the longer
> term including yourself that is great and hope you
> will accept our relatively new conversations.
>
> The thing that has just kept us interested I think
> is interesting and fun analysis based talk not
> just "my team is better than your team." We try
> to back up our statements...
>
> Here is to an even bigger community of hs football
> lovers!
----------------
Totally agree--and Steve K2 has amazed me with his spreads.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:23PM
Centreville fan Wrote:
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> Props to south county for throwing several
> haymakers to go up 21-0 at centreville. But let's
> talk facts, south county's up tempo offense was
> impressive. Centreville was extremely flat to
> start the game (probably because they haven't
> faced a true test this year like south county).
> South county was able to run the football and keep
> centrevilles high powered offense off the field.
> That being said, south county had several 4th
> down conversions that most people would have
> punted on(I understand it worked, so props to
> them). They needed a fake punt, two onside kicks
> the centreville had there hands on, and a fake
> field goal for a touchdown. Once centreville was
> able to get their offense on the field south
> county luck ran out. Centreville proceeded to
> emphatically score 55 points (with 3 touchdowns
> called back). South county had zero answer, and
> learned why centreville one of the two best teams
> in this area. AJ turner is the best football
> player this area has seen in a long time. He
> completely dominated the game. Their defense
> started to settle down and read the option offense
> better. Long story short, south county pull off
> several trick/lucky plays the most teams wouldn't
> try. They were not able to keep up the trickery
> and Ucentreville proved why they are so unique and
> dominate. Good luck to both teams in the future.
Wrong. So why couldn't stop the on sides kicks and fake punts? First three scores by SoCo they drove right down the field. No trick plays. So they go for it on 4th down. So what. They want to keep the ball and score. Centreville could not stop them. SoCo had 21-0 on the scoreboard before CV even got a first down. First three possessions by CV were three and out. Most of the game they moved the ball at will. One of their later drives they went 99 yards from their 1 yard line and drove down the field to score. It was smash-mouth football at its best. Their QB rushed for 194 yards and on a couple plays manhandled Chad Wiggins with a stiff arm and made others look silly. SoCo put up 35 points on the vaunted, dominant Centreville defense, which was supposed to be so scary SoCo should just lay down and quit. CV defense got exposed. We knew that the SoCo defense was likely to give up some big plays, but their early stops were impressive. The difference in the game was the SoCo turnovers. Without those they probably win it. Especially if they had gone in to score and go up 14 after the recovered kickoff fumble by CV. Turns out CV gets it right back with a SC fumble and they go down and tie the game, which changed all the momentum. But hand it to CV. They did what they had to do and earned the win handily.
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> Props to south county for throwing several
> haymakers to go up 21-0 at centreville. But let's
> talk facts, south county's up tempo offense was
> impressive. Centreville was extremely flat to
> start the game (probably because they haven't
> faced a true test this year like south county).
> South county was able to run the football and keep
> centrevilles high powered offense off the field.
> That being said, south county had several 4th
> down conversions that most people would have
> punted on(I understand it worked, so props to
> them). They needed a fake punt, two onside kicks
> the centreville had there hands on, and a fake
> field goal for a touchdown. Once centreville was
> able to get their offense on the field south
> county luck ran out. Centreville proceeded to
> emphatically score 55 points (with 3 touchdowns
> called back). South county had zero answer, and
> learned why centreville one of the two best teams
> in this area. AJ turner is the best football
> player this area has seen in a long time. He
> completely dominated the game. Their defense
> started to settle down and read the option offense
> better. Long story short, south county pull off
> several trick/lucky plays the most teams wouldn't
> try. They were not able to keep up the trickery
> and Ucentreville proved why they are so unique and
> dominate. Good luck to both teams in the future.
Wrong. So why couldn't stop the on sides kicks and fake punts? First three scores by SoCo they drove right down the field. No trick plays. So they go for it on 4th down. So what. They want to keep the ball and score. Centreville could not stop them. SoCo had 21-0 on the scoreboard before CV even got a first down. First three possessions by CV were three and out. Most of the game they moved the ball at will. One of their later drives they went 99 yards from their 1 yard line and drove down the field to score. It was smash-mouth football at its best. Their QB rushed for 194 yards and on a couple plays manhandled Chad Wiggins with a stiff arm and made others look silly. SoCo put up 35 points on the vaunted, dominant Centreville defense, which was supposed to be so scary SoCo should just lay down and quit. CV defense got exposed. We knew that the SoCo defense was likely to give up some big plays, but their early stops were impressive. The difference in the game was the SoCo turnovers. Without those they probably win it. Especially if they had gone in to score and go up 14 after the recovered kickoff fumble by CV. Turns out CV gets it right back with a SC fumble and they go down and tie the game, which changed all the momentum. But hand it to CV. They did what they had to do and earned the win handily.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Novafbfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:39PM
Couldn't agree more with you Rootboy
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:44PM
We see it over and over in sports - if you want to win big games your star players need to play like stars. After the admittedly horrible start, Walter, Wiggins, Boose, and especially AJ Turner played like stars. Hope they keep it up....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Very suspect
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:44PM
It's crazy how adults who aren't even football coaches obsess over HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. It's almost scary. Y'all need to re-evaluate your lives. I mean high school football is interesting but y'all OBSESS over it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:46PM
Interesting perspective RootBoy but do not be surprised if CVille turns around and holds SJackson to 14 points. This was indeed a wake up call and they will make adjustments.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:48PM
Actually I am a 13 year whiz kid who finds school boring so do film study and my other football obsessing in my free time. Nice to meet ya....
Seriously, this is better than obsessing over some of the things that other people obsess over (power, alcohol, money, etc.)
Seriously, this is better than obsessing over some of the things that other people obsess over (power, alcohol, money, etc.)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:51PM
And Very-Suspect is your own obsession coming on to sites like this to see how much other people obsess about other topics (smile)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
just shut up
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:58PM
hsfballfan, being the "great" reporter on this site that you are, you should know that your biased analysis skews what actually happened in the game and gives people the wrong impression. have some integrity and quit bullshitting other people that want to know what actually happened
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Sc football player
()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:58PM
The reason we lost was when we recovered the onside kick and fumbled the first play
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:11PM
Hey "Just Shut Up" please explain how I have biased any reporting. Would be happy to hear from an expert such as yourself, especially with that very descriptive name. I know I talk too much, I know I am a blowhard, heck I know I am a homer, but definitely not biased (and quite frankly if you look across posts the last few weeks I will compare my breadth (D6, D5, North/South, individual players, individual games, etc.) and depth of posts with just about anyone.....
And by the way, although I do not have to do this I will submit that my trying to help moderate some of the discussions on this site has made it more informative and wide ranging for everyone. This is not nearly saying I have all the answers, of course I do not. In fact I just about had to call myself a dumbshit in front of everyone the way the CVille was going the first half. However, before when I have come on this site perhaps there were good individual posts (sounds for instance like Steve K2 has been a prominent poster) but that was just it - a bunch or unrelated posts with no feel of community.
If others want me to shut up, sound off but I have no plans to do such as this point based on your concern. Free country dude.
And by the way, although I do not have to do this I will submit that my trying to help moderate some of the discussions on this site has made it more informative and wide ranging for everyone. This is not nearly saying I have all the answers, of course I do not. In fact I just about had to call myself a dumbshit in front of everyone the way the CVille was going the first half. However, before when I have come on this site perhaps there were good individual posts (sounds for instance like Steve K2 has been a prominent poster) but that was just it - a bunch or unrelated posts with no feel of community.
If others want me to shut up, sound off but I have no plans to do such as this point based on your concern. Free country dude.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
...
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:13PM
I think most of the GOOD teams in the northern region can hold stonewall jackson to 14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:15PM
And by the way maybe you and Root Boy can start your own site (however sneaking suspicion you might be same person)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just my opinion
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:18PM
Lb
CVille
Soco
Westfield
Robinson
Stonewall
Langley
Yorktown
CVille
Soco
Westfield
Robinson
Stonewall
Langley
Yorktown
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
"just shut up"
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:19PM
you have even admitted you are a cville fan and proceeded to write questionable analysis/prediction on their games. for example, bitching about the refereeing (which is a poor excuse often times) I think most people on this forum would say you are a biased opinion….except for maybe cvillefan, cat dad, and cvillestudent of course. Sorry if my original post came off as insulting
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
just shut up
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:20PM
"Free Country Dude"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:21PM
Just some comments.
Thorough analysis RootBoy, but believe your conclusion is wrong. The turnovers were inevitable, given the SOCO QB's tendency to fumble the pitch and his loose handling of the ball as seen in many previous games. Once he figures out how to pitch (in particular to his left) and secure the ball when he is in traffic, he will be a good, but not great, QB. (Would help if he got some coaching on his throwing as well.)
To me the key difference between the two teams came down to conditioning and depth. C'Ville had both and SOCO didn't. This was even early into the 4th quarter, but the SOCO players were simply gassed. Many were playing both ways, and the O-Line in particular looked dead on their feet at the end. They gave it a great, nearly herculean, effort, but C’Ville just had to much in the end.
Neutral_fan,
Saw your post earlier on the "holding" by the C'Ville TE during the fake punt. Recommend you review the films. I've seen it a dozen times. #11 was the TE and he blocked down on the DT, not the DE. The DE was kicked out by a pulling tackle. No holding at all from any of the two angles I've seen. And none of the refs visible in any frame have their hands anywhere near their flags.
Officiating was probably the worst I’ve seen in many years, but frankly this year has been the worst overall. Understand the crew was being evaluated yesterday. Most, particularly #104 (who, while 15yds away, was looking at a trapped ball ‘reception’ and couldn’t see the ball on the ground with the receivers hands on top them) should be canned.
I've seen the interception called back due to the "phantom holding" call. When viewing the various angles, the C'ville DBs were playing off the receivers (another post on that later) by at least 2-3 yards. Unless they had 6-9 foot arms they couldn’t have held anything, because they were to far off.
Lots of cheap shots by SOCO and a few by C’Ville. To bad. If they want to be thugs they should go to basketball. There’s no honor in that in football. But at least no one on the field was as dirty as McManus from Washington-Lee. Now that kid is a punk.
Enough for now.
Thorough analysis RootBoy, but believe your conclusion is wrong. The turnovers were inevitable, given the SOCO QB's tendency to fumble the pitch and his loose handling of the ball as seen in many previous games. Once he figures out how to pitch (in particular to his left) and secure the ball when he is in traffic, he will be a good, but not great, QB. (Would help if he got some coaching on his throwing as well.)
To me the key difference between the two teams came down to conditioning and depth. C'Ville had both and SOCO didn't. This was even early into the 4th quarter, but the SOCO players were simply gassed. Many were playing both ways, and the O-Line in particular looked dead on their feet at the end. They gave it a great, nearly herculean, effort, but C’Ville just had to much in the end.
Neutral_fan,
Saw your post earlier on the "holding" by the C'Ville TE during the fake punt. Recommend you review the films. I've seen it a dozen times. #11 was the TE and he blocked down on the DT, not the DE. The DE was kicked out by a pulling tackle. No holding at all from any of the two angles I've seen. And none of the refs visible in any frame have their hands anywhere near their flags.
Officiating was probably the worst I’ve seen in many years, but frankly this year has been the worst overall. Understand the crew was being evaluated yesterday. Most, particularly #104 (who, while 15yds away, was looking at a trapped ball ‘reception’ and couldn’t see the ball on the ground with the receivers hands on top them) should be canned.
I've seen the interception called back due to the "phantom holding" call. When viewing the various angles, the C'ville DBs were playing off the receivers (another post on that later) by at least 2-3 yards. Unless they had 6-9 foot arms they couldn’t have held anything, because they were to far off.
Lots of cheap shots by SOCO and a few by C’Ville. To bad. If they want to be thugs they should go to basketball. There’s no honor in that in football. But at least no one on the field was as dirty as McManus from Washington-Lee. Now that kid is a punk.
Enough for now.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:24PM
No insult taken and I will talk on. If you look at the posts I refrained from excusing the CVille start on refereeing (although did concur with many other posters later who brought up a number of suspicious calls), was the first to hand it to SOCO for their great early game plan, have talked and provided info on many other topics, and strongly believe that this past weekend was an aberration - heck CVille still won by 20 points even given all of the craziness in the first half.
What is your opinion on anything in addition to disliking me? I am game to talk about just about anything....
What is your opinion on anything in addition to disliking me? I am game to talk about just about anything....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nordic
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:27PM
Viking, I think some errant pitches and turnovers are inevitable and are "given" with the type of offense SOCO runs. There is something called "pitch-relationship" which is between the rb and qb and it looked like they just weren't on the same page often times.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
"just shut up"
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:29PM
was only commenting on a few of your posts that I read hsfballfan, don't sweat it I love you
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:33PM
no sweat "just shut up" - I love myself too (smile)
one of these days you and others are going to really "get me" and why I do the things that I do....you can think I am a dick but cannot say I am not at least interesting....and have a few well thought out posts here and there..
GO WILDCATS GO ALL THE WAY TO STATES!!!!
I WILL PREACH ON!!!!!
one of these days you and others are going to really "get me" and why I do the things that I do....you can think I am a dick but cannot say I am not at least interesting....and have a few well thought out posts here and there..
GO WILDCATS GO ALL THE WAY TO STATES!!!!
I WILL PREACH ON!!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:36PM
And by the way faithful listeners where in the heck is "Coach" - think he has provided real top notch analysis the last few weeks. Coach we miss ya buddy and what you thought about CVille SOCO last night.
Come back to us, come back to us....
Come back to us, come back to us....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
joe schmo-ronovich
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:42PM
Hey "Just Shut Up" cool it and leave HSFBALFAN alone I think this posting place has been better with him than before!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:43PM
Well thank you Joe but I am a big boy, can handle it. Think Just Shut Up and I understand each other well enough.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:45PM
And by the way that is hsfballfan not hsfbalfan....big difference (smile)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:46PM
OK. Now I can’t stop.
Nordic,
Absolutely concur. The triple takes immense concentration and practice to do it well. That’s why teams that specialize in it tend to be one dimensional, as they don’t have the time to work other options (pun intended). The amount of time and practice necessary to get the pitch right during games is far greater than between a QB and his receivers.
On another point. Not sure why C’Ville had their DEs crashing down on the dive aspect of the triple option. Makes no sense to me. I played the triple, and coached against it. Our first rule of thumb was in the 4-3, the DE, or in the 3-5, the OLB take the QB. The DT, in the 4-3, hits the guard, shucks and goes for the FB. (In the 3-5, the NG does the same for the 0-1 holes.) The MLB or ILBs fill. The point was to close off the dive aspect, and also force the QB to pitch. At that point, the triple option becomes just another pitch play. The best DEs are able to string the QB out laterally, but not allow a cutback, to allow the LBs, CBs and safety to move into position to support and cover the pitch.
Why didn’t C’Ville do that? Can’t say. The films show the DEs doing that all the way through the 3rd qtr, then they started adjusting. It was ridiculous watching a DE run past the QB, who had the ball, all the way across the back side of the line of scrimmage to hit the FB from behind doing a fake dive on the other side of the line. Once they adjusted, they started closing down the triple. Plus, once C’Ville got up by a touchdown, SOCO changed it’s game plan, to more passing. Might have hurt them more than helped, as SOCO was still getting a lot out of the triple. Although as I noted earlier, the SOCO players were exhausted. Great game. Would have been different if they only played three quarters.
I’ve heard a great deal about the coaching at C’Ville, but the defensive scheme, particularly given Neff’s tenure at SOCO, did not seem very coherent to me.
Nordic,
Absolutely concur. The triple takes immense concentration and practice to do it well. That’s why teams that specialize in it tend to be one dimensional, as they don’t have the time to work other options (pun intended). The amount of time and practice necessary to get the pitch right during games is far greater than between a QB and his receivers.
On another point. Not sure why C’Ville had their DEs crashing down on the dive aspect of the triple option. Makes no sense to me. I played the triple, and coached against it. Our first rule of thumb was in the 4-3, the DE, or in the 3-5, the OLB take the QB. The DT, in the 4-3, hits the guard, shucks and goes for the FB. (In the 3-5, the NG does the same for the 0-1 holes.) The MLB or ILBs fill. The point was to close off the dive aspect, and also force the QB to pitch. At that point, the triple option becomes just another pitch play. The best DEs are able to string the QB out laterally, but not allow a cutback, to allow the LBs, CBs and safety to move into position to support and cover the pitch.
Why didn’t C’Ville do that? Can’t say. The films show the DEs doing that all the way through the 3rd qtr, then they started adjusting. It was ridiculous watching a DE run past the QB, who had the ball, all the way across the back side of the line of scrimmage to hit the FB from behind doing a fake dive on the other side of the line. Once they adjusted, they started closing down the triple. Plus, once C’Ville got up by a touchdown, SOCO changed it’s game plan, to more passing. Might have hurt them more than helped, as SOCO was still getting a lot out of the triple. Although as I noted earlier, the SOCO players were exhausted. Great game. Would have been different if they only played three quarters.
I’ve heard a great deal about the coaching at C’Ville, but the defensive scheme, particularly given Neff’s tenure at SOCO, did not seem very coherent to me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:54PM
Viking thanks for those notes. The other thing that struck me watching last night was why all of the defense could not tackle. This was on short bursts but also in the open field, they looked like deer in headlights, giving them way too much cushion. Took Wiggins and a few others to make a couple of pops to get the others to follow suit.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:59PM
Sc football player,
The fumble was not the reason you lost, so please don’t get down on yourself, the player who fumbled, or the team. C’Ville is an unusually talented team. You guys played a great game. You did what no other team has done before against C’Ville. Be proud of yourselves.
The fumble was not the reason you lost, so please don’t get down on yourself, the player who fumbled, or the team. C’Ville is an unusually talented team. You guys played a great game. You did what no other team has done before against C’Ville. Be proud of yourselves.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:08PM
Hsfballfan,
Agreed. The C’Ville tackling was atrocious. They were hitting a college level QB in the chest or around the shoulder pads and trying to wrestle him down. And he just decided he wouldn’t go down. Some wrapping on the tackles, but not much. Unfortunately, that is the state of tackling at all levels today. Fundamentals are not taught, or are apparently taught wrong. I almost want to avert my eyes on open field tackles, as I know the tackler will try to hit with their shoulder and bump the runner down, vice trying to get some type of a wrap.
C’Ville was also not adjusting to the running style of #22, fast, shifty and with great speed. A couple of good tackles on him, but many times he left them grasping at air. (He’s also a great blocker. Very impressive, overall.)
Agreed. The C’Ville tackling was atrocious. They were hitting a college level QB in the chest or around the shoulder pads and trying to wrestle him down. And he just decided he wouldn’t go down. Some wrapping on the tackles, but not much. Unfortunately, that is the state of tackling at all levels today. Fundamentals are not taught, or are apparently taught wrong. I almost want to avert my eyes on open field tackles, as I know the tackler will try to hit with their shoulder and bump the runner down, vice trying to get some type of a wrap.
C’Ville was also not adjusting to the running style of #22, fast, shifty and with great speed. A couple of good tackles on him, but many times he left them grasping at air. (He’s also a great blocker. Very impressive, overall.)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:32PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Actually I am a 13 year whiz kid who finds school
> boring so do film study and my other football
> obsessing in my free time. Nice to meet ya....
>
> Seriously, this is better than obsessing over some
> of the things that other people obsess over
> (power, alcohol, money, etc.)
You actually bring a nice, light-hearted approach to the discussion, and I apologize for my earlier hostile statements I made to you, hsfballfan. The Friday Night Lights experience is a lot of fun to discuss.
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> Actually I am a 13 year whiz kid who finds school
> boring so do film study and my other football
> obsessing in my free time. Nice to meet ya....
>
> Seriously, this is better than obsessing over some
> of the things that other people obsess over
> (power, alcohol, money, etc.)
You actually bring a nice, light-hearted approach to the discussion, and I apologize for my earlier hostile statements I made to you, hsfballfan. The Friday Night Lights experience is a lot of fun to discuss.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:38PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> And by the way maybe you and Root Boy can start
> your own site (however sneaking suspicion you
> might be same person)
No.
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> And by the way maybe you and Root Boy can start
> your own site (however sneaking suspicion you
> might be same person)
No.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:41PM
Very suspect,
My day job is preventing nuclear war, so high school football is nice way to unwind. Thanks.
My day job is preventing nuclear war, so high school football is nice way to unwind. Thanks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:46PM
No worries Rootboy or Just Shut Up love ya both too...keep on pushing me to be better or (worse). Smile
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 08:49PM
Viking Wrote:
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> Just some comments.
>
> Thorough analysis RootBoy, but believe your
> conclusion is wrong. The turnovers were
> inevitable, given the SOCO QB's tendency to fumble
> the pitch and his loose handling of the ball as
> seen in many previous games. Once he figures out
> how to pitch (in particular to his left) and
> secure the ball when he is in traffic, he will be
> a good, but not great, QB. (Would help if he got
> some coaching on his throwing as well.)
>
> To me the key difference between the two teams
> came down to conditioning and depth. C'Ville had
> both and SOCO didn't. This was even early into
> the 4th quarter, but the SOCO players were simply
> gassed. Many were playing both ways, and the
> O-Line in particular looked dead on their feet at
> the end. They gave it a great, nearly herculean,
> effort, but C’Ville just had to much in the
> end.
>
> Neutral_fan,
>
> Saw your post earlier on the "holding" by the
> C'Ville TE during the fake punt. Recommend you
> review the films. I've seen it a dozen times.
> #11 was the TE and he blocked down on the DT, not
> the DE. The DE was kicked out by a pulling
> tackle. No holding at all from any of the two
> angles I've seen. And none of the refs visible in
> any frame have their hands anywhere near their
> flags.
>
> Officiating was probably the worst I’ve seen in
> many years, but frankly this year has been the
> worst overall. Understand the crew was being
> evaluated yesterday. Most, particularly #104
> (who, while 15yds away, was looking at a trapped
> ball ‘reception’ and couldn’t see the ball
> on the ground with the receivers hands on top
> them) should be canned.
>
> I've seen the interception called back due to the
> "phantom holding" call. When viewing the various
> angles, the C'ville DBs were playing off the
> receivers (another post on that later) by at least
> 2-3 yards. Unless they had 6-9 foot arms they
> couldn’t have held anything, because they were
> to far off.
>
> Lots of cheap shots by SOCO and a few by
> C’Ville. To bad. If they want to be thugs they
> should go to basketball. There’s no honor in
> that in football. But at least no one on the
> field was as dirty as McManus from Washington-Lee.
> Now that kid is a punk.
>
> Enough for now.
Oh please. The CV defense was gassed. They were getting up slowly and had their hands on their hips waiting for the inexorable no huddle to come right back at them. They couldn't stop it.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Just some comments.
>
> Thorough analysis RootBoy, but believe your
> conclusion is wrong. The turnovers were
> inevitable, given the SOCO QB's tendency to fumble
> the pitch and his loose handling of the ball as
> seen in many previous games. Once he figures out
> how to pitch (in particular to his left) and
> secure the ball when he is in traffic, he will be
> a good, but not great, QB. (Would help if he got
> some coaching on his throwing as well.)
>
> To me the key difference between the two teams
> came down to conditioning and depth. C'Ville had
> both and SOCO didn't. This was even early into
> the 4th quarter, but the SOCO players were simply
> gassed. Many were playing both ways, and the
> O-Line in particular looked dead on their feet at
> the end. They gave it a great, nearly herculean,
> effort, but C’Ville just had to much in the
> end.
>
> Neutral_fan,
>
> Saw your post earlier on the "holding" by the
> C'Ville TE during the fake punt. Recommend you
> review the films. I've seen it a dozen times.
> #11 was the TE and he blocked down on the DT, not
> the DE. The DE was kicked out by a pulling
> tackle. No holding at all from any of the two
> angles I've seen. And none of the refs visible in
> any frame have their hands anywhere near their
> flags.
>
> Officiating was probably the worst I’ve seen in
> many years, but frankly this year has been the
> worst overall. Understand the crew was being
> evaluated yesterday. Most, particularly #104
> (who, while 15yds away, was looking at a trapped
> ball ‘reception’ and couldn’t see the ball
> on the ground with the receivers hands on top
> them) should be canned.
>
> I've seen the interception called back due to the
> "phantom holding" call. When viewing the various
> angles, the C'ville DBs were playing off the
> receivers (another post on that later) by at least
> 2-3 yards. Unless they had 6-9 foot arms they
> couldn’t have held anything, because they were
> to far off.
>
> Lots of cheap shots by SOCO and a few by
> C’Ville. To bad. If they want to be thugs they
> should go to basketball. There’s no honor in
> that in football. But at least no one on the
> field was as dirty as McManus from Washington-Lee.
> Now that kid is a punk.
>
> Enough for now.
Oh please. The CV defense was gassed. They were getting up slowly and had their hands on their hips waiting for the inexorable no huddle to come right back at them. They couldn't stop it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:00PM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Just some comments.
>
> Thorough analysis RootBoy, but believe your
> conclusion is wrong. The turnovers were
> inevitable, given the SOCO QB's tendency to fumble
> the pitch and his loose handling of the ball as
> seen in many previous games. Once he figures out
> how to pitch (in particular to his left) and
> secure the ball when he is in traffic, he will be
> a good, but not great, QB. (Would help if he got
> some coaching on his throwing as well.)
>
> To me the key difference between the two teams
> came down to conditioning and depth. C'Ville had
> both and SOCO didn't. This was even early into
> the 4th quarter, but the SOCO players were simply
> gassed. Many were playing both ways, and the
> O-Line in particular looked dead on their feet at
> the end. They gave it a great, nearly herculean,
> effort, but C’Ville just had to much in the
> end.
>
> Neutral_fan,
>
> Saw your post earlier on the "holding" by the
> C'Ville TE during the fake punt. Recommend you
> review the films. I've seen it a dozen times.
> #11 was the TE and he blocked down on the DT, not
> the DE. The DE was kicked out by a pulling
> tackle. No holding at all from any of the two
> angles I've seen. And none of the refs visible in
> any frame have their hands anywhere near their
> flags.
>
> Officiating was probably the worst I’ve seen in
> many years, but frankly this year has been the
> worst overall. Understand the crew was being
> evaluated yesterday. Most, particularly #104
> (who, while 15yds away, was looking at a trapped
> ball ‘reception’ and couldn’t see the ball
> on the ground with the receivers hands on top
> them) should be canned.
>
> I've seen the interception called back due to the
> "phantom holding" call. When viewing the various
> angles, the C'ville DBs were playing off the
> receivers (another post on that later) by at least
> 2-3 yards. Unless they had 6-9 foot arms they
> couldn’t have held anything, because they were
> to far off.
>
> Lots of cheap shots by SOCO and a few by
> C’Ville. To bad. If they want to be thugs they
> should go to basketball. There’s no honor in
> that in football. But at least no one on the
> field was as dirty as McManus from Washington-Lee.
> Now that kid is a punk.
>
> Enough for now.
The SC QB pitches and passes just fine. It's an option offense and the ball has to carried loosely. Hard to pitch it with it tucked under your arm. A ball gets bobbled or a pass floats once in a while. It's high school, and it even happens in college sometimes! But he (and the other SC backs) certainly ran all over the studs in the dominant CV defense. And the real irony here is that this was his last football game. He will go on to play for Army Lacrosse at West Point next year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Just some comments.
>
> Thorough analysis RootBoy, but believe your
> conclusion is wrong. The turnovers were
> inevitable, given the SOCO QB's tendency to fumble
> the pitch and his loose handling of the ball as
> seen in many previous games. Once he figures out
> how to pitch (in particular to his left) and
> secure the ball when he is in traffic, he will be
> a good, but not great, QB. (Would help if he got
> some coaching on his throwing as well.)
>
> To me the key difference between the two teams
> came down to conditioning and depth. C'Ville had
> both and SOCO didn't. This was even early into
> the 4th quarter, but the SOCO players were simply
> gassed. Many were playing both ways, and the
> O-Line in particular looked dead on their feet at
> the end. They gave it a great, nearly herculean,
> effort, but C’Ville just had to much in the
> end.
>
> Neutral_fan,
>
> Saw your post earlier on the "holding" by the
> C'Ville TE during the fake punt. Recommend you
> review the films. I've seen it a dozen times.
> #11 was the TE and he blocked down on the DT, not
> the DE. The DE was kicked out by a pulling
> tackle. No holding at all from any of the two
> angles I've seen. And none of the refs visible in
> any frame have their hands anywhere near their
> flags.
>
> Officiating was probably the worst I’ve seen in
> many years, but frankly this year has been the
> worst overall. Understand the crew was being
> evaluated yesterday. Most, particularly #104
> (who, while 15yds away, was looking at a trapped
> ball ‘reception’ and couldn’t see the ball
> on the ground with the receivers hands on top
> them) should be canned.
>
> I've seen the interception called back due to the
> "phantom holding" call. When viewing the various
> angles, the C'ville DBs were playing off the
> receivers (another post on that later) by at least
> 2-3 yards. Unless they had 6-9 foot arms they
> couldn’t have held anything, because they were
> to far off.
>
> Lots of cheap shots by SOCO and a few by
> C’Ville. To bad. If they want to be thugs they
> should go to basketball. There’s no honor in
> that in football. But at least no one on the
> field was as dirty as McManus from Washington-Lee.
> Now that kid is a punk.
>
> Enough for now.
The SC QB pitches and passes just fine. It's an option offense and the ball has to carried loosely. Hard to pitch it with it tucked under your arm. A ball gets bobbled or a pass floats once in a while. It's high school, and it even happens in college sometimes! But he (and the other SC backs) certainly ran all over the studs in the dominant CV defense. And the real irony here is that this was his last football game. He will go on to play for Army Lacrosse at West Point next year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
yo
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:11PM
Cville's defense got exposed last night by south county. They didn't look good at all but they made big plays and turnovers in crunch time. Symmes, Kargbo and Davis had there way with the triple option. Cville has a lot of work to do before you crowned them region champs. just my thought..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Would've been different
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:20PM
If Soco had #3 not out for the majority of the season they would be the powerhouse in 6A north. #8 wouldn't be playing so much offense and he is a big part of the defense and him being gassed most of the second half became a huge factor in Cvilles big plays. Excited to see what #3 has in store for next year as he could go all region.
PS.
He played in two games and made 2nd team all patriot conference.
PS.
He played in two games and made 2nd team all patriot conference.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:36PM
Would've been different Wrote:
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> If Soco had #3 not out for the majority of the
> season they would be the powerhouse in 6A north.
> #8 wouldn't be playing so much offense and he is a
> big part of the defense and him being gassed most
> of the second half became a huge factor in Cvilles
> big plays. Excited to see what #3 has in store for
> next year as he could go all region.
>
>
> PS.
> He played in two games and made 2nd team all
> patriot conference.
I don't disagree with your statement per se, and having had #3 in there all season would have added even more fire power to the SC triple-option blockbuster. But had the SC defense been more solid they would have gone to the state championship with the offense they had even without #3. With the SC defense frequently giving up the big plays, and so many times for very quick scores, it's unrealistic to have seen them getting past most of the better offensive teams in the playoffs. But if the SC defense had been able to tighten up and hold good teams to say 24-28 points in a game, their offense should usually win it for them. Gotta be solid on both sides of the ball.
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> If Soco had #3 not out for the majority of the
> season they would be the powerhouse in 6A north.
> #8 wouldn't be playing so much offense and he is a
> big part of the defense and him being gassed most
> of the second half became a huge factor in Cvilles
> big plays. Excited to see what #3 has in store for
> next year as he could go all region.
>
>
> PS.
> He played in two games and made 2nd team all
> patriot conference.
I don't disagree with your statement per se, and having had #3 in there all season would have added even more fire power to the SC triple-option blockbuster. But had the SC defense been more solid they would have gone to the state championship with the offense they had even without #3. With the SC defense frequently giving up the big plays, and so many times for very quick scores, it's unrealistic to have seen them getting past most of the better offensive teams in the playoffs. But if the SC defense had been able to tighten up and hold good teams to say 24-28 points in a game, their offense should usually win it for them. Gotta be solid on both sides of the ball.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mysterious12345
()
Date: November 23, 2013 09:36PM
As my team , SoCo, went down this week I look to the future. Who's going to be good next year? Any stud athletes ready to break out? Or will many teams decline as talented seniors graduate? Thoughts?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VA Sports
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:02PM
I know this has already been asked, but does anyone know where I could find all-district listings?
Most specifically the Concorde district?
Most specifically the Concorde district?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:16PM
I too have been looking for the All Districts lists but to no avail.
Centreville (sorry, I know) will return about 15-16 starters include AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Taylor Boose, X. Nickens-Yzer, Tyler Love, Devante Wright, Christian Brooks, Justin Skule, etc. Plus they have plenty coming up in the current Frosh and Sophomore classes. Will be right up there again.
Centreville (sorry, I know) will return about 15-16 starters include AJ Turner, Charles Tutt, Taylor Boose, X. Nickens-Yzer, Tyler Love, Devante Wright, Christian Brooks, Justin Skule, etc. Plus they have plenty coming up in the current Frosh and Sophomore classes. Will be right up there again.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:19PM
Oh Coach oh Coach, where art thou dear Coach? Want to hear from you directly with your analysis (I feel your presence even now.....)
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:36PM
It's crazy how adults who aren't even football coaches obsess over HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. It's almost scary. Y'all need to re-evaluate your lives. I mean high school football is interesting but y'all OBSESS over it.
This just in....
All points bulletin out on "Very Suspect" for crimes against football obsessors, composite sketch looks like Ms. Crabapple, everyone's third grade teacher...grey hair in a bun, horned rim glasses.....
This just in....
All points bulletin out on "Very Suspect" for crimes against football obsessors, composite sketch looks like Ms. Crabapple, everyone's third grade teacher...grey hair in a bun, horned rim glasses.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
......
()
Date: November 23, 2013 10:38PM
Mysterious12345 Wrote:
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> As my team , SoCo, went down this week I look to
> the future. Who's going to be good next year? Any
> stud athletes ready to break out? Or will many
> teams decline as talented seniors graduate?
> Thoughts?
Doubt next years soco will be as good as this one as they graduate almost their entire offense
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> As my team , SoCo, went down this week I look to
> the future. Who's going to be good next year? Any
> stud athletes ready to break out? Or will many
> teams decline as talented seniors graduate?
> Thoughts?
Doubt next years soco will be as good as this one as they graduate almost their entire offense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
We can say the same
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:06PM
Would've been different Wrote:
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> If Soco had #3 not out for the majority of the
> season they would be the powerhouse in 6A north.
> #8 wouldn't be playing so much offense and he is a
> big part of the defense and him being gassed most
> of the second half became a huge factor in Cvilles
> big plays. Excited to see what #3 has in store for
> next year as he could go all region.
>
>
> PS.
> He played in two games and made 2nd team all
> patriot conference.
We can say the same thing about Nickens-Yzer. Unfortunately due to injury he only played in 5 games total and still made 2nd team all conference. What's your point?
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> If Soco had #3 not out for the majority of the
> season they would be the powerhouse in 6A north.
> #8 wouldn't be playing so much offense and he is a
> big part of the defense and him being gassed most
> of the second half became a huge factor in Cvilles
> big plays. Excited to see what #3 has in store for
> next year as he could go all region.
>
>
> PS.
> He played in two games and made 2nd team all
> patriot conference.
We can say the same thing about Nickens-Yzer. Unfortunately due to injury he only played in 5 games total and still made 2nd team all conference. What's your point?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 23, 2013 11:09PM
Hey "We can say the same" where are the lists?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
History
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:03AM
This soco offense is one of the best in history
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hmm
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:53AM
Seems like south county beat themselves on the offensive side of the ball, considering only 2-3 of the turnovers were actually forced by cville. There were a couple fumbles forced by wiggins however props to him. The botched pitch and interception(s) are all user error and was south county shooting itself in the foot. Would have been a way different story without turnovers. South County never got lucky in this game. In my opinion muddle formations should now be second nature among teams, especially in the northern region, everyone runs it. on the muddle formation field goal cville had it perfectly defended except wiggins missed a tackle and south county capitalized on a corner that was caught staring at the qb. If south county got lucky off of fake punts then so did cville on their's. Cville won because they capitalized off of south county's mistakes. It also helps that their offense and defense are top 5 in the state.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hmm
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:55AM
As for the onside kicks being "lucky", aren't you taught how to receive/kick them in practice? I don't think it is really a matter of luck. It's about having a quick special teams and a kicker that can get a good bounce.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
"Nordic"
()
Date: November 24, 2013 12:02PM
Yes, the teams that tend to defend the triple option best are the ones with D-ends that provide the qb with a "shaky" read and feather down the line. Cville went straight for dive every single time, even the mlb would be consumed by every play-fake. They need to fix that.
ON another note
Cville is 5x better and more athletic than braddock, if they get into a rhythm no one can stop them, especially on offense. Lake Braddock no longer has Lomax either so their edge has been weakened a bit,.
ON another note
Cville is 5x better and more athletic than braddock, if they get into a rhythm no one can stop them, especially on offense. Lake Braddock no longer has Lomax either so their edge has been weakened a bit,.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 12:38PM
History Wrote:
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> This soco offense is one of the best in history
No way. SoCo’s O self-destructed when it counted most.
What did it do with the game on the line vs. C’Ville, LB and even 5-6 Chantilly?
Here is what it did: turnovers, fumbles, one-dimensional and unable to rally by passing..
This year, a number of VA teams have “better” O’s
Example 1: Bird is unbeaten and averaging 50
Example 2: Smith is unbeaten and averaging 49
Example 3: LB is unbeaten and averaging 49.
Example 4: C’Ville--2 longTD passes on SoCo to close Q2 + 3 long TDs runs in Q4 when it counted.
Prior years:
Example 5: 2012, Lake Taylor; 50 ppg, went 15-0, beat Phoebus 54-0 and SB at UVA.
Example 6: 2011 Smith averaged almost 40 vs. tough teams and titled with 47 on C’ville
Example 7: 2007 Westfield. Did the same thing as the 2011 Smith team.
See these rankings of O’s by year:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_off_gy.cfm?GY=2007
SoCo's O was good this year, and it's 9-3 record reflects that.
Having seen SoCo play twice, I give it the eye test.
In the end, it lived and died by the option.
Putting 50s on weak teams doesn't make history.
Performing when the game is on the line does.
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> This soco offense is one of the best in history
No way. SoCo’s O self-destructed when it counted most.
What did it do with the game on the line vs. C’Ville, LB and even 5-6 Chantilly?
Here is what it did: turnovers, fumbles, one-dimensional and unable to rally by passing..
This year, a number of VA teams have “better” O’s
Example 1: Bird is unbeaten and averaging 50
Example 2: Smith is unbeaten and averaging 49
Example 3: LB is unbeaten and averaging 49.
Example 4: C’Ville--2 longTD passes on SoCo to close Q2 + 3 long TDs runs in Q4 when it counted.
Prior years:
Example 5: 2012, Lake Taylor; 50 ppg, went 15-0, beat Phoebus 54-0 and SB at UVA.
Example 6: 2011 Smith averaged almost 40 vs. tough teams and titled with 47 on C’ville
Example 7: 2007 Westfield. Did the same thing as the 2011 Smith team.
See these rankings of O’s by year:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_off_gy.cfm?GY=2007
SoCo's O was good this year, and it's 9-3 record reflects that.
Having seen SoCo play twice, I give it the eye test.
In the end, it lived and died by the option.
Putting 50s on weak teams doesn't make history.
Performing when the game is on the line does.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitRealll
()
Date: November 24, 2013 01:41PM
Soco is returning most of their Defense which will be improved, obviously. Their best offensive player (#3) will be back, as well as the entire receiving core, and half of the O-Line. The Sophomore and Freshman class at Soco are VERY impressive and with the off-season workouts and meetings Pannoni has the team doing all year, they will surely be a contender for at least the next 3 years. Talking to their coaches, there off-season schedule is no joke, hard to find another school in the state who works harder than them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
It can happen...
()
Date: November 24, 2013 03:06PM
KeepitRealll Wrote:
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> Soco is returning most of their Defense which will
> be improved, obviously. Their best offensive
> player (#3) will be back, as well as the entire
> receiving core, and half of the O-Line. The
> Sophomore and Freshman class at Soco are VERY
> impressive and with the off-season workouts and
> meetings Pannoni has the team doing all year, they
> will surely be a contender for at least the next 3
> years. Talking to their coaches, there off-season
> schedule is no joke, hard to find another school
> in the state who works harder than them.
Don't be surprised if Soco is a contender for the state title in the next few years. One of the great programs and has one of the great coaches in Virginia.
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> Soco is returning most of their Defense which will
> be improved, obviously. Their best offensive
> player (#3) will be back, as well as the entire
> receiving core, and half of the O-Line. The
> Sophomore and Freshman class at Soco are VERY
> impressive and with the off-season workouts and
> meetings Pannoni has the team doing all year, they
> will surely be a contender for at least the next 3
> years. Talking to their coaches, there off-season
> schedule is no joke, hard to find another school
> in the state who works harder than them.
Don't be surprised if Soco is a contender for the state title in the next few years. One of the great programs and has one of the great coaches in Virginia.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 03:34PM
Eastern Va Fan thanks for the strong info. Should remind us all that to be considered great you really have to get deeper in the playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 24, 2013 03:55PM
Agreed, Nordic. Other teams are watching this game, and will look for any Centreville weaknesses.
Hmm,
I think the QB and pitch man needed more work on the pitch. It is very difficult to do right every time, which is what you have to do in a game. Accepting fumbles was nothing my coaches seemed really keen on, in practice or in a game. Or at least they left that impression with me courtesy of a number of laps for me and everyone else in the backfield for each miscue. Did keep us in shape though. Of course, I’m from Ohio, and the coaches there tend to be Neanderthals.
The Centreville kickoffs on both sides of the ball need a lot of work. These have been iffy since the beginning of the season.
Despite the muddle formation, there is no reason a receiver should ever be 5 yards free end running away from a DB in the end zone in any situation. It points to Centreville’s most significant weakness – coverage. They highlight reel interceptions, but don’t cover well against good receivers and QBs.
I still believe the game came down to South County being out of gas in the 4th quarter. Capitalizing on and causing some turnovers definitely helped, but South County’s switch to the pass and Centreville finding its rhythm in the 4th quarter were also key issues. Most of the turnovers were in the 4th quarter and I think exhaustion was a factor. Not knocking South County at all, although some here will suspect that in any case.
Hmm,
I think the QB and pitch man needed more work on the pitch. It is very difficult to do right every time, which is what you have to do in a game. Accepting fumbles was nothing my coaches seemed really keen on, in practice or in a game. Or at least they left that impression with me courtesy of a number of laps for me and everyone else in the backfield for each miscue. Did keep us in shape though. Of course, I’m from Ohio, and the coaches there tend to be Neanderthals.
The Centreville kickoffs on both sides of the ball need a lot of work. These have been iffy since the beginning of the season.
Despite the muddle formation, there is no reason a receiver should ever be 5 yards free end running away from a DB in the end zone in any situation. It points to Centreville’s most significant weakness – coverage. They highlight reel interceptions, but don’t cover well against good receivers and QBs.
I still believe the game came down to South County being out of gas in the 4th quarter. Capitalizing on and causing some turnovers definitely helped, but South County’s switch to the pass and Centreville finding its rhythm in the 4th quarter were also key issues. Most of the turnovers were in the 4th quarter and I think exhaustion was a factor. Not knocking South County at all, although some here will suspect that in any case.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Love the forum, but...
()
Date: November 24, 2013 04:26PM
we really need some posters who are not completely biased in their outlook. I mean, Centreville fan and SoCo fan are obviously knowledgable and passionate, but see everything through glasses completely colored by fierce loyalty for their respective teams.
We don't have any truly dominant programs around here, which is a good thing. Teams pop up here and there and are great, but different teams knock them off sometimes, until they, themselves get knocked off their perch.
Let's try our best to keep this from becoming a Centreville suck fest.
Just my two cents....
We don't have any truly dominant programs around here, which is a good thing. Teams pop up here and there and are great, but different teams knock them off sometimes, until they, themselves get knocked off their perch.
Let's try our best to keep this from becoming a Centreville suck fest.
Just my two cents....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 24, 2013 05:00PM
Love the forum, but..
My kids played for another Concorde District school years ago. I think the Concorde District plays the best quality football in the northern region, and I think C’Ville has the best chance to beat the Beach schools. To me, the focus should be on getting the best representative to the state championship to accomplish that goal. Centreville seems to be the best, but isn’t flawless by any stretch. I think they would be a better representative than Lake Braddock or Westfield, but the region championships will decide.
If you want to change topics, then who do you think will be the best Concorde QB next year? My money is on Jake Rowlett at Robinson, although McLaughlin at Herndon could be a big factor for them, particularly given Day’s track record in producing high quality QBs.
My kids played for another Concorde District school years ago. I think the Concorde District plays the best quality football in the northern region, and I think C’Ville has the best chance to beat the Beach schools. To me, the focus should be on getting the best representative to the state championship to accomplish that goal. Centreville seems to be the best, but isn’t flawless by any stretch. I think they would be a better representative than Lake Braddock or Westfield, but the region championships will decide.
If you want to change topics, then who do you think will be the best Concorde QB next year? My money is on Jake Rowlett at Robinson, although McLaughlin at Herndon could be a big factor for them, particularly given Day’s track record in producing high quality QBs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ramette
()
Date: November 24, 2013 05:15PM
> If you want to change topics, then who do you
> think will be the best Concorde QB next year? My
> money is on Jake Rowlett at Robinson, although
> McLaughlin at Herndon could be a big factor for
> them, particularly given Day’s track record in
> producing high quality QBs.
I agree Rowlett will be all-dist next year... and he better be, 'cause the Rams have no RBs in the stable. Wilson and Johnson will be gone, and there's no speed/power runner to fill the void. Rowlett will probably be the Rams; biggest running threat. It looks like a one-man show nest season.
> think will be the best Concorde QB next year? My
> money is on Jake Rowlett at Robinson, although
> McLaughlin at Herndon could be a big factor for
> them, particularly given Day’s track record in
> producing high quality QBs.
I agree Rowlett will be all-dist next year... and he better be, 'cause the Rams have no RBs in the stable. Wilson and Johnson will be gone, and there's no speed/power runner to fill the void. Rowlett will probably be the Rams; biggest running threat. It looks like a one-man show nest season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 24, 2013 05:29PM
Viking Wrote:
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>
> I still believe the game came down to South County
> being out of gas in the 4th quarter. Capitalizing
> on and causing some turnovers definitely helped,
> but South County’s switch to the pass and
> Centreville finding its rhythm in the 4th quarter
> were also key issues. Most of the turnovers were
> in the 4th quarter and I think exhaustion was a
> factor. Not knocking South County at all,
> although some here will suspect that in any case.
No more out of gas than Centreville, and honestly less so. The CV D line was gasping in the 2nd qtr with their hands on their hips, and looking very bewildered at being down 21-0 to a team they were supposed to crush. The SC off season training is very rigorous, and they have gone up tempo all season, so they are pretty used to it. Overall a pretty well conditioned group. None of the SC linemen went both ways and the only skill guy that would consistently go both ways was #8 Kargbo. I could see he was getting a little tired toward the end. I think what finally collapsed the SC lead and momentum was the offense knowing that the defense would not be able to hold onto it for them, and that they had to make something happen. CV defense adjusted to pressure the option a little better later in the game, but they never really stopped it. The SC offense stopped themselves with the turnovers, and when they got behind they went to the pass, which is not their strength. The SC receivers sometimes seemed to give up on their routes and/or not go up and get the ball, or at least knock it down and prevent the pick if the pass floated up there, which it did a couple times. Some of the long SC go routes in the 4th qtr seemed ill-advised, and more swing passes or slants/drag routes underneath would probably have worked better. If they had taken care of the ball better they would have won the game, simple as that.
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>
> I still believe the game came down to South County
> being out of gas in the 4th quarter. Capitalizing
> on and causing some turnovers definitely helped,
> but South County’s switch to the pass and
> Centreville finding its rhythm in the 4th quarter
> were also key issues. Most of the turnovers were
> in the 4th quarter and I think exhaustion was a
> factor. Not knocking South County at all,
> although some here will suspect that in any case.
No more out of gas than Centreville, and honestly less so. The CV D line was gasping in the 2nd qtr with their hands on their hips, and looking very bewildered at being down 21-0 to a team they were supposed to crush. The SC off season training is very rigorous, and they have gone up tempo all season, so they are pretty used to it. Overall a pretty well conditioned group. None of the SC linemen went both ways and the only skill guy that would consistently go both ways was #8 Kargbo. I could see he was getting a little tired toward the end. I think what finally collapsed the SC lead and momentum was the offense knowing that the defense would not be able to hold onto it for them, and that they had to make something happen. CV defense adjusted to pressure the option a little better later in the game, but they never really stopped it. The SC offense stopped themselves with the turnovers, and when they got behind they went to the pass, which is not their strength. The SC receivers sometimes seemed to give up on their routes and/or not go up and get the ball, or at least knock it down and prevent the pick if the pass floated up there, which it did a couple times. Some of the long SC go routes in the 4th qtr seemed ill-advised, and more swing passes or slants/drag routes underneath would probably have worked better. If they had taken care of the ball better they would have won the game, simple as that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 24, 2013 06:44PM
Ramette,
I’d agree next year could be tough for the Rams. Losing Wilson, Johnson, Ackermann, Pinkston, and a host of other starters will make their road back to the playoffs difficult indeed. Rowlett will have to step up mightily for them to have a shot, however, his passing ability continues to improve. Denham may come through, but don’t think he can replace Wilson or Johnson by himself.
Part of the reason I think Rowlett will be a stand-out is because he will have to carry so much of the load, and he’s shown toughness when Wilson was out.
RootBoy,
Respectfully disagree on the exhaustion, but concur largely with your analysis. #8 was one of the players I was watching, as he was a key part of the SOCO defense. Completely concur that the C’Ville D-line was confused. The adjustments later in game had an effect. Also saw the same thing you did with the SOCO receivers, but I thought they looked a little confused on some of their routes. At one point they had two receivers running the same route next to each other covered by one C’Ville DB. Make that pass, and that could have changed the game. But there were many other events throughout the game that could have resulted in a different outcome.
I didn’t understand why SOCO, switched to the pass when it was tied. I thought the way they had been driving using the triple option was still effective. And when they switched is was almost a complete switch. Mixing the triple with the pass, to me, would have been more effective. But the coaches were probably seeing things differently and apparently had a different perspective on the game situation.
I’d agree next year could be tough for the Rams. Losing Wilson, Johnson, Ackermann, Pinkston, and a host of other starters will make their road back to the playoffs difficult indeed. Rowlett will have to step up mightily for them to have a shot, however, his passing ability continues to improve. Denham may come through, but don’t think he can replace Wilson or Johnson by himself.
Part of the reason I think Rowlett will be a stand-out is because he will have to carry so much of the load, and he’s shown toughness when Wilson was out.
RootBoy,
Respectfully disagree on the exhaustion, but concur largely with your analysis. #8 was one of the players I was watching, as he was a key part of the SOCO defense. Completely concur that the C’Ville D-line was confused. The adjustments later in game had an effect. Also saw the same thing you did with the SOCO receivers, but I thought they looked a little confused on some of their routes. At one point they had two receivers running the same route next to each other covered by one C’Ville DB. Make that pass, and that could have changed the game. But there were many other events throughout the game that could have resulted in a different outcome.
I didn’t understand why SOCO, switched to the pass when it was tied. I thought the way they had been driving using the triple option was still effective. And when they switched is was almost a complete switch. Mixing the triple with the pass, to me, would have been more effective. But the coaches were probably seeing things differently and apparently had a different perspective on the game situation.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yasss
()
Date: November 24, 2013 07:10PM
This Friday Gerry Pannoni showed us all why he is the best coach in the NR this year
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 07:17PM
To the earlier poster, of course there are CVille (including me of course) and SOCO homers but we are an open bunch....waiting for the Braddock, Westfield and other crowds to weigh in more deeply. All good.
Viking - thanks for the strong posts and the participation. Quality reminds me of some other strong posters who have been on this site. Keep the quality up....
Viking - thanks for the strong posts and the participation. Quality reminds me of some other strong posters who have been on this site. Keep the quality up....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 07:52PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Eastern Va Fan thanks for the strong info. Should
> remind us all that to be considered great you
> really have to get deeper in the playoffs.
IMHO, the FB up here is competitive and unforgiving.
In a typical year, you have 2-3 teams capable of titling + a hot team.
Hot team in 2011: SoCo with its D; in 2012 it was Oakton's run in NR playoffs.
You regularly knock off teams with good reg seasons: Westfield 2011, 2012; SB 2011 and others.
That balance and unpredictability is one reason why NR is so fun to watch.
Yorktown comes out of nowhere to go 9-2, 12-1, 12-1, and 9-3.
Falls Church wins +7 games this year.
Langley goes to playoffs with its OL and decent RB.
Herndon is improving.
TC had some strong games.
SoCo had good O.
C'Ville 2012 struggles to beat MtV and Hayfield--now this year goes on a tear.
LB emerged as a balanced O power with a good kicker too.
I could go on and on...the point is your teams constantly ebb and flow.
So to make it to UVA, you have to PERFORM in elimination games
That means DICTATING to the other team and not folding when you get behind or give up a few big plays.
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> Eastern Va Fan thanks for the strong info. Should
> remind us all that to be considered great you
> really have to get deeper in the playoffs.
IMHO, the FB up here is competitive and unforgiving.
In a typical year, you have 2-3 teams capable of titling + a hot team.
Hot team in 2011: SoCo with its D; in 2012 it was Oakton's run in NR playoffs.
You regularly knock off teams with good reg seasons: Westfield 2011, 2012; SB 2011 and others.
That balance and unpredictability is one reason why NR is so fun to watch.
Yorktown comes out of nowhere to go 9-2, 12-1, 12-1, and 9-3.
Falls Church wins +7 games this year.
Langley goes to playoffs with its OL and decent RB.
Herndon is improving.
TC had some strong games.
SoCo had good O.
C'Ville 2012 struggles to beat MtV and Hayfield--now this year goes on a tear.
LB emerged as a balanced O power with a good kicker too.
I could go on and on...the point is your teams constantly ebb and flow.
So to make it to UVA, you have to PERFORM in elimination games
That means DICTATING to the other team and not folding when you get behind or give up a few big plays.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 07:55PM
Eastern VA Fan so help me understand the 757 a bit better. In years past there seem to me more breadth now it all about OSmith and OLakes. What givens, why the consolidation in just two major teams in the D6 down there?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
YASSS WHAT
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:00PM
Yasss Wrote:
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> This Friday Gerry Pannoni showed us all why he is
> the best coach in the NR this year
How by losing to Centreville by 20 instead of 40?
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> This Friday Gerry Pannoni showed us all why he is
> the best coach in the NR this year
How by losing to Centreville by 20 instead of 40?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:06PM
All this talk about SOCO being best is a bunch of BS. Lost to Lake Braddock, lost to Centreville, lost to Chantilly. Sorry you cannot be best. Play a full game and have a full team and then come back and talk your smackety smack smack.
Maco out!
Maco out!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:15PM
Yasss Wrote:
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> This Friday Gerry Pannoni showed us all why he is
> the best coach in the NR this year
His team had a good season and he gets much credit.
But he is not NR coach of the year.
In reg season, he lost to 5-6 Chantilly.
The D was bad, giving up 34 to Chantilly and a combined 100 to C'Ville and LB.
He is supposed to coach the D, too, right?
The ball handling Fri nigh was a re-run of the LB loss. You fix that in practice and that's coaching.
Most important, his team looked sleepy in q4 Fri and got outscored 27-0.
Going 9-3 gets a big congrats but coach of the year?
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> This Friday Gerry Pannoni showed us all why he is
> the best coach in the NR this year
His team had a good season and he gets much credit.
But he is not NR coach of the year.
In reg season, he lost to 5-6 Chantilly.
The D was bad, giving up 34 to Chantilly and a combined 100 to C'Ville and LB.
He is supposed to coach the D, too, right?
The ball handling Fri nigh was a re-run of the LB loss. You fix that in practice and that's coaching.
Most important, his team looked sleepy in q4 Fri and got outscored 27-0.
Going 9-3 gets a big congrats but coach of the year?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SoCo
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:29PM
If the defensive secondary improves then next years team should be dominant. The offense should be just as good, as #3 will be back, the receivers come back, and the backup, #18, did great when symmes went down against lee, scoring two tds. The offense must become much more balanced with a passing game, way too one dimensional with the triple option. But with the way pannoni works those boys they should be primed for a great year next year. GO STALLIONS!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:30PM
"just shut up" Wrote:
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> you have even admitted you are a cville fan and
> proceeded to write questionable
> analysis/prediction on their games. for example,
> bitching about the refereeing (which is a poor
> excuse often times) I think most people on this
> forum would say you are a biased opinion….except
> for maybe cvillefan, cat dad, and cvillestudent of
> course. Sorry if my original post came off as
> insulting
I have to admit that CV fans complaining about the officiating is comical to me after watching some of the most atrocious calls and no-calls against South County most of the season, especially in the Chantilly game, with some horrendous pass interference calls against SC. South County also was flagged 13 times for 135 yards in the first TC Williams game. Really? They did earn a few but not nearly that many. Just horrible. I am not saying the refs got every call perfect in the SC-CV game, but it was far better than I have seen in the regular season. I was actually looking for any illegal motion by the SC offense during the game, and they were set for at least a second every time the ball was snapped except for twice, which were good calls.
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> you have even admitted you are a cville fan and
> proceeded to write questionable
> analysis/prediction on their games. for example,
> bitching about the refereeing (which is a poor
> excuse often times) I think most people on this
> forum would say you are a biased opinion….except
> for maybe cvillefan, cat dad, and cvillestudent of
> course. Sorry if my original post came off as
> insulting
I have to admit that CV fans complaining about the officiating is comical to me after watching some of the most atrocious calls and no-calls against South County most of the season, especially in the Chantilly game, with some horrendous pass interference calls against SC. South County also was flagged 13 times for 135 yards in the first TC Williams game. Really? They did earn a few but not nearly that many. Just horrible. I am not saying the refs got every call perfect in the SC-CV game, but it was far better than I have seen in the regular season. I was actually looking for any illegal motion by the SC offense during the game, and they were set for at least a second every time the ball was snapped except for twice, which were good calls.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Yasss
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:46PM
he outcoached haddock and got down all of the special teams calls.
And he does not coach defense, Taylor does
And he does not coach defense, Taylor does
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:53PM
Ok folks all good but after a flurry of craziness where CVille admittedly looked horrible, SOCO got outscored 55-14. Don't bronze the hall of fame statue too quickly for Pannoni and SOCO. They are sitting home now twiddling thumbs, CVille plays on....
One time I walked near Brad Pitt, does not mean I look like him
One time I walked near Brad Pitt, does not mean I look like him
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:57PM
Yasss Wrote:
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> he outcoached haddock and got down all of the
> special teams calls.
> And he does not coach defense, Taylor does
C'mon, his team fumbled all night and gave up 55 points.
It was the same thing vs. LB.
You don't "outcoach" somebody and get beaten 27-0 in the fourth quarter.
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> he outcoached haddock and got down all of the
> special teams calls.
> And he does not coach defense, Taylor does
C'mon, his team fumbled all night and gave up 55 points.
It was the same thing vs. LB.
You don't "outcoach" somebody and get beaten 27-0 in the fourth quarter.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 09:00PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Eastern VA Fan so help me understand the 757 a bit
> better. In years past there seem to me more
> breadth now it all about OSmith and OLakes. What
> givens, why the consolidation in just two major
> teams in the D6 down there?
Here, you just have more balance in a typical year.
So many different D6 teams have titled, and that excludes the good LB teams of a few years ago.
In D6, it’s hard to stay at the top. See Landstown.
This year Western Branch was ok but big gap after that.
We’ve seen more prolonged runs among smaller schools.
Here, SB dominated D5 for 10 years, with SoCo and Yorktown doing well in 2011, 2012. .
Down there, you had Hampton teams in the late 1990s followed by the Phoebus runs.
Now,it’s LT, followed by Phoebus this year (which lost Fri and to LT last year by 50+).
I saw LT beat SB at UVA last year and saw Smith wax LT 42-2 this year.
I can’t believe Smith can play this well the entire year w/o having one bad game.
We’ll see this weekend.
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> Eastern VA Fan so help me understand the 757 a bit
> better. In years past there seem to me more
> breadth now it all about OSmith and OLakes. What
> givens, why the consolidation in just two major
> teams in the D6 down there?
Here, you just have more balance in a typical year.
So many different D6 teams have titled, and that excludes the good LB teams of a few years ago.
In D6, it’s hard to stay at the top. See Landstown.
This year Western Branch was ok but big gap after that.
We’ve seen more prolonged runs among smaller schools.
Here, SB dominated D5 for 10 years, with SoCo and Yorktown doing well in 2011, 2012. .
Down there, you had Hampton teams in the late 1990s followed by the Phoebus runs.
Now,it’s LT, followed by Phoebus this year (which lost Fri and to LT last year by 50+).
I saw LT beat SB at UVA last year and saw Smith wax LT 42-2 this year.
I can’t believe Smith can play this well the entire year w/o having one bad game.
We’ll see this weekend.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
coach
()
Date: November 24, 2013 09:42PM
hsfan is a weird ass old guy..
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 09:48PM
Et tu coach, et tu....?
I am hurt.
I am hurt.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: November 24, 2013 09:56PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Et tu coach, et tu....?
>
> I am hurt.
My first thought: imposter...
Coach has always said you're his favorite. Just a thought
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> Et tu coach, et tu....?
>
> I am hurt.
My first thought: imposter...
Coach has always said you're his favorite. Just a thought
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 09:58PM
Thanks to you The Kicker - another wall of famer. Maybe it is an impostor coach, maybe not. I think we may have found our Ms. Crabapple....search is over.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 10:00PM
Will the real Coach please come back to us. We miss you even though you are close.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cOach
()
Date: November 24, 2013 10:09PM
meeeeee
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 10:32PM
Coach, hoping you are the real Coach....miss ya man, think there are impostors on this site using your moniker. Knew you were not too far away and would come back when the chips were down. You da man, we need no impostors any which way they happen.
What a few days - whew.
Centreville down 21-0 in first half
Root Boy and Just Shut up telling me to shut up and then apologizing
Ms. Crabapple my third grade teacher accusing all of us with obsessing about football
SOCO fans saying SOCO is the best even though they are sitting home now
Cold as Minnesota here in DC in so many ways
Coach, my # 1 fan, calling me what he did (but alas now finding out there is likely an impostor coach...)
Is this an episode of Lost on ABC television.
Oh yes CVille will right the ship and bring sanity back with a shellacking of SJackson this weekend.....
What a few days - whew.
Centreville down 21-0 in first half
Root Boy and Just Shut up telling me to shut up and then apologizing
Ms. Crabapple my third grade teacher accusing all of us with obsessing about football
SOCO fans saying SOCO is the best even though they are sitting home now
Cold as Minnesota here in DC in so many ways
Coach, my # 1 fan, calling me what he did (but alas now finding out there is likely an impostor coach...)
Is this an episode of Lost on ABC television.
Oh yes CVille will right the ship and bring sanity back with a shellacking of SJackson this weekend.....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
?><?
()
Date: November 24, 2013 10:52PM
wait hsfballfan, why are we forgetting the other 21 points? Maybe we should forget the 55 cville scored on soco because that was when soco looked "horrible" as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 10:55PM
You know I think the world of the Cats, just was scared the first quarter and a half. Got to be straight with everyone, no BS. But hey as I have said of course they they unleashed the fury and outscored SOCO 55-14. The ship will be righted this weekend.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
langleysax
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:05PM
hsfballfan i've got to say you are getting a tad bit annoying with your failed attempts at humor. And judging by recent posts you will probably get butthurt over this very post and start calling people "soco fans" because they are centreville's latest victim/test. The hypocrisy is real. you can't criticize other people's opinions because they are "soco fans" when you are analyzing the game as a centreville fan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Soco football player
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:05PM
Personally I think lake Braddock is better than centreville
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
langleysax
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:13PM
hsfballfan, do you run this forum? I appreciate your attempts at moderating somewhat civil conversation but can you spare us of all the other bs (which includes your crappy coaches, hypocritical behavior/analysis, and stupidity quite honestly). please stop acting like everyone wants to the unceasing horseshit that is spewing out of your mouth/keyboard. yeah it's a "free country" like you posted earlier to "just shut up" but it doesn't mean people don't deserve to read better stuff on this site.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
langleysax
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:16PM
sorry meant "jokes" not "coaches"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 24, 2013 11:19PM
Ok now the Langley Saxon fans giving me a dose of medicine even though they similarly sit home as one of the vanquished. Or maybe another impostor who knows. No real Coach left to talk this all through intelligently, only a fake Coach in more ways than one, no more joy of the community, Steve K2 pissed off at me as a newcomer, old friends not online as much as before, many people clearly using multiple aliases and not being true to themselves or the community.
Good luck (or maybe bad luck to some) to all. I sign off now never to grace this posting place again. I will take my biased analysis, my blowhardiness, my talk too muchedness away and be gone. Good luck going back to where it was before, stray posts - my team's colors are better than yours, SOCO SOCO SOCO GO, etc. No moderation, no anchor, no direction, no fun.
Sometimes people are just not understood or appreciated.
Peace out and go Wildcats!
Good luck (or maybe bad luck to some) to all. I sign off now never to grace this posting place again. I will take my biased analysis, my blowhardiness, my talk too muchedness away and be gone. Good luck going back to where it was before, stray posts - my team's colors are better than yours, SOCO SOCO SOCO GO, etc. No moderation, no anchor, no direction, no fun.
Sometimes people are just not understood or appreciated.
Peace out and go Wildcats!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 06:38AM
All of you that don't like me are sitting at home and my team that I follow is still playing and we are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team is still playing don't tell me how good they or their coaches are.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really?
()
Date: November 25, 2013 07:44AM
Soco is graduating more than half the line and the other two guys that rotated in on the o-line
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757
()
Date: November 25, 2013 07:44AM
How can you guys expect to beat a team that has a freshman with 7offers
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Langleysax
()
Date: November 25, 2013 07:51AM
Thank you hsfballfan. Much obliged. But hurt as usual lmao. Boohoo no one appreciates me boohoo. unfortunately we all know you'll be back
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Braddock vs Cville
()
Date: November 25, 2013 08:14AM
Take it from someone that has played both teams and Braddock will beat centreville... A much better team. You can talk about the talent centreville has all you want but Braddock is a lot more well rounded than centreville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
......
()
Date: November 25, 2013 08:58AM
If you tell me David Symmes shouldn't be going D1 quarterback there's something wrong with you... Imagine if he actually cared more about football than lacrosse and how much better of a quarterback he would be.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
..........
()
Date: November 25, 2013 08:59AM
Here's his highlight tape. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/934742/highlights/105870403
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 25, 2013 09:04AM
Braddock vs Cville Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Take it from someone that has played both teams
> and Braddock will beat centreville... A much
> better team. You can talk about the talent
> centreville has all you want but Braddock is a lot
> more well rounded than centreville.
I think both Centreville and Lake Braddock will be frantic in practice the next week or two to learn how to run and defend against the triple option. LMAO!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Take it from someone that has played both teams
> and Braddock will beat centreville... A much
> better team. You can talk about the talent
> centreville has all you want but Braddock is a lot
> more well rounded than centreville.
I think both Centreville and Lake Braddock will be frantic in practice the next week or two to learn how to run and defend against the triple option. LMAO!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 09:12AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> All of you that don't like me are sitting at home
> and my team that I follow is still playing and we
> are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team is
> still playing don't tell me how good they or their
> coaches are.
People are expressing their opinions, just like you and I do here.
It's cool if they don't agree with you, me or each other.
The top 3 seeds are still playing--so there are no surprises except for SJ.
People always appreciate somebody who wins with grace and character.
It's hard to do sometimes bc fans naturally chatter and are loyal to their teams.
I was transferred here thinking that the 757 had better FB, especially in D5 and sometimes in D6.
In my first year here, I quickly saw how much balance the NR now North has.
SB dominated D5, but you also recently have had very good Yorktown and SoCo.
In D6, it's a free-for-all with Concorde and a few rotating Patriot teams.
You also have Loudoun teams besides SB doing well and the new classifications make that more interesting..
We all come to this chat board looking for something.
I'm learning a lot doing it and I like the banter, too.
But you don't hearing me crowing about which team of mine titled.
Don't let opinions get to you; try to keep people focused on the merits.
This board could become something special if we all do our parts.
-------------------------------------------------------
> All of you that don't like me are sitting at home
> and my team that I follow is still playing and we
> are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team is
> still playing don't tell me how good they or their
> coaches are.
People are expressing their opinions, just like you and I do here.
It's cool if they don't agree with you, me or each other.
The top 3 seeds are still playing--so there are no surprises except for SJ.
People always appreciate somebody who wins with grace and character.
It's hard to do sometimes bc fans naturally chatter and are loyal to their teams.
I was transferred here thinking that the 757 had better FB, especially in D5 and sometimes in D6.
In my first year here, I quickly saw how much balance the NR now North has.
SB dominated D5, but you also recently have had very good Yorktown and SoCo.
In D6, it's a free-for-all with Concorde and a few rotating Patriot teams.
You also have Loudoun teams besides SB doing well and the new classifications make that more interesting..
We all come to this chat board looking for something.
I'm learning a lot doing it and I like the banter, too.
But you don't hearing me crowing about which team of mine titled.
Don't let opinions get to you; try to keep people focused on the merits.
This board could become something special if we all do our parts.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 09:28AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> All of you that don't like me are sitting at home
> and my team that I follow is still playing and we
> are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team is
> still playing don't tell me how good they or their
> coaches are.
This is the "real" hsfballfan once again. This post I attach above is from an impostor. Exactly what I mean, this site will never become special if people play multiple impostor games. All the best to you Eastern VA Fan and others on the growing wall of fame. I might check back from time to time to see what people are saying but this will constitute my last post. All future hsfballfan posts (like this one above) you can be sure will be put in by impostors. I tried the moderator role, the open it up to everyone role, the self-deprecating role never taking myself too seriously along the way. I voiced my love and support for my team vociferously (even cantankerously) but did it out of fun and respect for other teams (how many times did I say CVille will have difficulties with the 757 teams?), how many times did I invite people to talk about other teams including D5? So forget it, time for this poster on Fairfax Underground to truly go underground.
Good luck to the true searchers, have patience with those who have a chance to go in the right direction at some point, and screw the rest.
PEACE OUT....
-------------------------------------------------------
> All of you that don't like me are sitting at home
> and my team that I follow is still playing and we
> are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team is
> still playing don't tell me how good they or their
> coaches are.
This is the "real" hsfballfan once again. This post I attach above is from an impostor. Exactly what I mean, this site will never become special if people play multiple impostor games. All the best to you Eastern VA Fan and others on the growing wall of fame. I might check back from time to time to see what people are saying but this will constitute my last post. All future hsfballfan posts (like this one above) you can be sure will be put in by impostors. I tried the moderator role, the open it up to everyone role, the self-deprecating role never taking myself too seriously along the way. I voiced my love and support for my team vociferously (even cantankerously) but did it out of fun and respect for other teams (how many times did I say CVille will have difficulties with the 757 teams?), how many times did I invite people to talk about other teams including D5? So forget it, time for this poster on Fairfax Underground to truly go underground.
Good luck to the true searchers, have patience with those who have a chance to go in the right direction at some point, and screw the rest.
PEACE OUT....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 25, 2013 09:38AM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All of you that don't like me are sitting at
> home
> > and my team that I follow is still playing and
> we
> > are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team
> is
> > still playing don't tell me how good they or
> their
> > coaches are.
>
> People are expressing their opinions, just like
> you and I do here.
> It's cool if they don't agree with you, me or each
> other.
> The top 3 seeds are still playing--so there are no
> surprises except for SJ.
> People always appreciate somebody who wins with
> grace and character.
> It's hard to do sometimes bc fans naturally
> chatter and are loyal to their teams.
> I was transferred here thinking that the 757 had
> better FB, especially in D5 and sometimes in D6.
> In my first year here, I quickly saw how much
> balance the NR now North has.
> SB dominated D5, but you also recently have had
> very good Yorktown and SoCo.
> In D6, it's a free-for-all with Concorde and a few
> rotating Patriot teams.
> You also have Loudoun teams besides SB doing well
> and the new classifications make that more
> interesting..
> We all come to this chat board looking for
> something.
> I'm learning a lot doing it and I like the banter,
> too.
> But you don't hearing me crowing about which team
> of mine titled.
> Don't let opinions get to you; try to keep people
> focused on the merits.
> This board could become something special if we
> all do our parts.
Exactly. Thank you EasternVA. hsfballfan one thing you might consider is that this forum is not about people liking you or not. It's about people pointing out the merits, and sometimes deficiencies that they see in their respective teams, and what might have been had the structure and mechanics been a little different. That's what's fun about it; kind of like fantasy football. For you it's all about Centreville right now, but be careful about putting any team on a pedestal, because they will eventually fall off. Centreville got exposed by South County's offense on Friday night, and they were lucky that South County continued to have an underperforming defense, and beat themselves on offense with turnovers. They knew what South County was bringing with the triple option, and even their DC came from South County, but they STILL couldn't stop it. Credit some big time athletes from SC who played as a team to run it right at Centreville and basically manhandle them. But a great team takes care of the ball in the big game and they play for 4 quarters and they finish it, which SC failed to do. We give credit to Centreville for responding to taking a pounding most of the game and then doing what they needed to do to get the win.
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All of you that don't like me are sitting at
> home
> > and my team that I follow is still playing and
> we
> > are one of the greatest ever. Unless your team
> is
> > still playing don't tell me how good they or
> their
> > coaches are.
>
> People are expressing their opinions, just like
> you and I do here.
> It's cool if they don't agree with you, me or each
> other.
> The top 3 seeds are still playing--so there are no
> surprises except for SJ.
> People always appreciate somebody who wins with
> grace and character.
> It's hard to do sometimes bc fans naturally
> chatter and are loyal to their teams.
> I was transferred here thinking that the 757 had
> better FB, especially in D5 and sometimes in D6.
> In my first year here, I quickly saw how much
> balance the NR now North has.
> SB dominated D5, but you also recently have had
> very good Yorktown and SoCo.
> In D6, it's a free-for-all with Concorde and a few
> rotating Patriot teams.
> You also have Loudoun teams besides SB doing well
> and the new classifications make that more
> interesting..
> We all come to this chat board looking for
> something.
> I'm learning a lot doing it and I like the banter,
> too.
> But you don't hearing me crowing about which team
> of mine titled.
> Don't let opinions get to you; try to keep people
> focused on the merits.
> This board could become something special if we
> all do our parts.
Exactly. Thank you EasternVA. hsfballfan one thing you might consider is that this forum is not about people liking you or not. It's about people pointing out the merits, and sometimes deficiencies that they see in their respective teams, and what might have been had the structure and mechanics been a little different. That's what's fun about it; kind of like fantasy football. For you it's all about Centreville right now, but be careful about putting any team on a pedestal, because they will eventually fall off. Centreville got exposed by South County's offense on Friday night, and they were lucky that South County continued to have an underperforming defense, and beat themselves on offense with turnovers. They knew what South County was bringing with the triple option, and even their DC came from South County, but they STILL couldn't stop it. Credit some big time athletes from SC who played as a team to run it right at Centreville and basically manhandle them. But a great team takes care of the ball in the big game and they play for 4 quarters and they finish it, which SC failed to do. We give credit to Centreville for responding to taking a pounding most of the game and then doing what they needed to do to get the win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 09:38AM
and by the way I am a 13 year old whiz kid....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 25, 2013 10:47AM
I was at the Robinson game, it was a very hard fought game and could have gone either way. WF didn't pull any punches they did what worked for them the whole year, ground and pound and didn't back off to it. They did line up #1 at QB for direct snaps which proved to be very good for first downs. If Robinson held Thrasher to under 150 yards they would have won this game. Robinson did not make any adjustments on D which surprised me, with a WF feeble attempt to pass, I would have blitz'd, stacked the box and bring up safety's etc. The front line for WF is very big and had the better of the Rob D line. I was although impressed with Robinsons play calling and though other than one int that Jack Rowlett showed great poise. He threw some extremely nice passes in small areas with great accuracy. Joe Wilson played better, but doesn't have last years breakaway speed. He did make some great tackles on D. I'm sure Dam Meier was hoping for last years version of Wilson. Proof that not working out and being caught up in your own hype doesn't pay off.
Denham proved to be a really good back but dropped a crucial pass in the second quarter. Avyn really did a great job getting the tough yards at RB, a tough task when your playing Linebacker the whole game. Rockwood Rob's punter/Kicker had an amazing game, really keeping his team in it. He had a 50 plus yard punt inside the 5 and two great corner kickoffs that forced a WF returner over the out of bounds. Not sure why Rob had him short kick his first kickoff, that gave WF great field position. The Rowlett int gave WF good field position that turned into a TD.
I thought WF played a bit more intense and looked a tad more hungry. Rob after the last two years probably forgot how to win and didn't realize how hard it is to get to the playoffs. For some kids, it's a long season.
I was impressed with Dan Meiers play calling, mixing up passes and all sorts of counters, outside runs etc... He also had Rowlett scramble out to the right and pass back to the left with good results. I think he will be really good next year. They did have a trick play with the TE getting a backwards pass in which he threw for a long first down. WF defense was put in bad positions at times due to the different looks the offense had. The last play as I found out, TE for Rob was supposed to run a 5 yard hitch and just kept running causing the pass to hit him in the back. There was a huge running lane had he caught it. WF just out executed Rob defense and we all know that a good defense wins in the playoffs.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2013 11:04AM by KeepitReal.
Denham proved to be a really good back but dropped a crucial pass in the second quarter. Avyn really did a great job getting the tough yards at RB, a tough task when your playing Linebacker the whole game. Rockwood Rob's punter/Kicker had an amazing game, really keeping his team in it. He had a 50 plus yard punt inside the 5 and two great corner kickoffs that forced a WF returner over the out of bounds. Not sure why Rob had him short kick his first kickoff, that gave WF great field position. The Rowlett int gave WF good field position that turned into a TD.
I thought WF played a bit more intense and looked a tad more hungry. Rob after the last two years probably forgot how to win and didn't realize how hard it is to get to the playoffs. For some kids, it's a long season.
I was impressed with Dan Meiers play calling, mixing up passes and all sorts of counters, outside runs etc... He also had Rowlett scramble out to the right and pass back to the left with good results. I think he will be really good next year. They did have a trick play with the TE getting a backwards pass in which he threw for a long first down. WF defense was put in bad positions at times due to the different looks the offense had. The last play as I found out, TE for Rob was supposed to run a 5 yard hitch and just kept running causing the pass to hit him in the back. There was a huge running lane had he caught it. WF just out executed Rob defense and we all know that a good defense wins in the playoffs.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2013 11:04AM by KeepitReal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 25, 2013 11:01AM
Onto the next week, I expect Cville to win against SJ. I do think SJ is playing really good football at the right time. I hope for the fans it's a good playoff game. LB is a much better team and more balanced than the last time they played WF. I expect LB players to turn it up a notch. With LB's passing attack, a Robinson exposing WF defense, should yield great results. Vince Sica is proving to be a really good go to guy at receiver. Trevor and Lee are a nice 1-2 punch, one is like a extra large fire hydrant and the other is a speedy quick back. Henderson has proven to be a really good runner and when his passing game is on really does the job. Even though LB lost some great kids, others have filled in nicely. I would expect WF to fight hard but was not impressed with their overall game. After SoCo's performance last Friday, it has made me think if LB stays healthy, should win the game against Cville, but will be a close one.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ashburn Guy
()
Date: November 25, 2013 11:24AM
Ok, so I have posted many times, but usually the name in my e-mailhas something to do with my note, or my response to someone else. hs - step back off the ledge. We all love you, except for a few flamers. Don't let them win!
Let me drop some guarantees on everyone...
Stonewall has no chance of stopping, or even slowing down Centreville. They have given up 338 points this year. Saw Stroman up close and live last year, and he is impressive, but Cats will put a spy on him if they are smart, and in general commit to stopping him. Stonewall has a good coach, and will score some, but this gets away from them by the third quarter. Mark it down.
Next guarantee - Briar will defeat Broad Run. Broad Run will play better than they did last time v. Briar, but score might be similar when it is all said and done. They play with too much intensity, and will roll into 5N championship.
Not guaranteed, but confident in...
Braddock over Westfield. This should be close, but LB pulls away late to set up dream match-up.
For those that care, I think North Stafford-Massaponex will be a classic, and have a funny feeling that North Stafford finds a way to beat undefeated Massaponex, reversing their overtime loss earlier in the year.
I'll wait to next week to formally crown them, but believe that Centreville and Briar Woods will be the North's representatives in D6 and D5 title games.
Count on it.
Let me drop some guarantees on everyone...
Stonewall has no chance of stopping, or even slowing down Centreville. They have given up 338 points this year. Saw Stroman up close and live last year, and he is impressive, but Cats will put a spy on him if they are smart, and in general commit to stopping him. Stonewall has a good coach, and will score some, but this gets away from them by the third quarter. Mark it down.
Next guarantee - Briar will defeat Broad Run. Broad Run will play better than they did last time v. Briar, but score might be similar when it is all said and done. They play with too much intensity, and will roll into 5N championship.
Not guaranteed, but confident in...
Braddock over Westfield. This should be close, but LB pulls away late to set up dream match-up.
For those that care, I think North Stafford-Massaponex will be a classic, and have a funny feeling that North Stafford finds a way to beat undefeated Massaponex, reversing their overtime loss earlier in the year.
I'll wait to next week to formally crown them, but believe that Centreville and Briar Woods will be the North's representatives in D6 and D5 title games.
Count on it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
comingup
()
Date: November 25, 2013 11:48AM
KeepitReal Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Onto the next week, I expect Cville to win against
> SJ. I do think SJ is playing really good football
> at the right time. I hope for the fans it's a
> good playoff game. LB is a much better team and
> more balanced than the last time they played WF.
> I expect LB players to turn it up a notch. With
> LB's passing attack, a Robinson exposing WF
> defense, should yield great results. Vince Sica
> is proving to be a really good go to guy at
> receiver. Trevor and Lee are a nice 1-2 punch,
> one is like a extra large fire hydrant and the
> other is a speedy quick back. Henderson has
> proven to be a really good runner and when his
> passing game is on really does the job. Even
> though LB lost some great kids, others have filled
> in nicely. I would expect WF to fight hard but
> was not impressed with their overall game. After
> SoCo's performance last Friday, it has made me
> think if LB stays healthy, should win the game
> against Cville, but will be a close one.
SJ/Cville should be a good game. It's worth it to see Stroman in action. To keep the game close, SJ has got to get their offense goin in the first half, and not fall behind like @ W-L. While SJ rallied to win against W-L and Langley, there would be no such opportunity against Centreville.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Onto the next week, I expect Cville to win against
> SJ. I do think SJ is playing really good football
> at the right time. I hope for the fans it's a
> good playoff game. LB is a much better team and
> more balanced than the last time they played WF.
> I expect LB players to turn it up a notch. With
> LB's passing attack, a Robinson exposing WF
> defense, should yield great results. Vince Sica
> is proving to be a really good go to guy at
> receiver. Trevor and Lee are a nice 1-2 punch,
> one is like a extra large fire hydrant and the
> other is a speedy quick back. Henderson has
> proven to be a really good runner and when his
> passing game is on really does the job. Even
> though LB lost some great kids, others have filled
> in nicely. I would expect WF to fight hard but
> was not impressed with their overall game. After
> SoCo's performance last Friday, it has made me
> think if LB stays healthy, should win the game
> against Cville, but will be a close one.
SJ/Cville should be a good game. It's worth it to see Stroman in action. To keep the game close, SJ has got to get their offense goin in the first half, and not fall behind like @ W-L. While SJ rallied to win against W-L and Langley, there would be no such opportunity against Centreville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
A couple of points...
()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:25PM
1. I like the fact that people are now saying Cville is the underdog to represent the north and LB is better because Cville's defense was exposed by SC.
2. SC can say all they want about what their offense did to Cville, the bottom line is Cville won. I dont care if they won by by 1 point or 100 points.They also won with a defense that was without their starting LB and an injured safety who pretty much played the game with one arm.
3. Tyler Love who is a very important part of Cville's LB core is recovering nicely and should be ready for the game against LB if they both meet in the regional finals.
4.If Tyler Love is back in a couple of weeks, Chad Wiggins will be able to resume his prowess of roaming the field and making plays in the backfield. This will put an end to the doubters notion about Cville having a dominant defense.
5. Biggest point of them all...Cville now has a chip on their shoulder and if all starters are healthy the next couple of weeks, watch out!
2. SC can say all they want about what their offense did to Cville, the bottom line is Cville won. I dont care if they won by by 1 point or 100 points.They also won with a defense that was without their starting LB and an injured safety who pretty much played the game with one arm.
3. Tyler Love who is a very important part of Cville's LB core is recovering nicely and should be ready for the game against LB if they both meet in the regional finals.
4.If Tyler Love is back in a couple of weeks, Chad Wiggins will be able to resume his prowess of roaming the field and making plays in the backfield. This will put an end to the doubters notion about Cville having a dominant defense.
5. Biggest point of them all...Cville now has a chip on their shoulder and if all starters are healthy the next couple of weeks, watch out!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:26PM
Class 6A Playoffs -- Region Semifinals (State Quarterfinals)
Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
North
#13 Stonewall Jackson (8-4) at #1 Centreville (12-0) in Clifton on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
#3 Westfield (10-2) at #2 Lake Braddock (12-0) in Burke on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
South
#5 Forest Park (9-3) at #1 Oscar Smith (12-0) in Chesapeake on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
#3 Colonial Forge (9-3) at #2 Ocean Lakes (12-0) in Virginia Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2013 01:40PM by nat4lee.
Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
North
#13 Stonewall Jackson (8-4) at #1 Centreville (12-0) in Clifton on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
#3 Westfield (10-2) at #2 Lake Braddock (12-0) in Burke on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
South
#5 Forest Park (9-3) at #1 Oscar Smith (12-0) in Chesapeake on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
#3 Colonial Forge (9-3) at #2 Ocean Lakes (12-0) in Virginia Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2013 01:40PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:26PM
Class 5A Playoffs -- Region Semifinals (State Quarterfinals)
Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
North
#5 North Stafford (10-2) at #1 Massaponax (12-0) in Fredericksburg on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
#7 Broad Run (9-3) at #3 Briar Woods (11-1) in Ashburn on Friday at 1:30 p.m.
South
#2 Atlee (11-1) at #1 L.C. Bird (12-0) in Chesterfield on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
#2 Green Run (9-3) at #1 Salem (10-2) in Virginia Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2013 01:46PM by nat4lee.
Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
North
#5 North Stafford (10-2) at #1 Massaponax (12-0) in Fredericksburg on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
#7 Broad Run (9-3) at #3 Briar Woods (11-1) in Ashburn on Friday at 1:30 p.m.
South
#2 Atlee (11-1) at #1 L.C. Bird (12-0) in Chesterfield on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
#2 Green Run (9-3) at #1 Salem (10-2) in Virginia Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2013 01:46PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:51PM
KeepitReal Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I was at the Robinson game, it was a very hard
> fought game and could have gone either way. WF
> didn't pull any punches they did what worked for
> them the whole year, ground and pound and didn't
> back off to it. They did line up #1 at QB for
> direct snaps which proved to be very good for
> first downs. If Robinson held Thrasher to under
> 150 yards they would have won this game. Robinson
> did not make any adjustments on D which surprised
> me, with a WF feeble attempt to pass, I would have
> blitz'd, stacked the box and bring up safety's
> etc. The front line for WF is very big and had the
> better of the Rob D line. I was although
> impressed with Robinsons play calling and though
> other than one int that Jack Rowlett showed great
> poise. He threw some extremely nice passes in
> small areas with great accuracy. Joe Wilson
> played better, but doesn't have last years
> breakaway speed. He did make some great tackles on
> D. I'm sure Dam Meier was hoping for last years
> version of Wilson. Proof that not working out and
> being caught up in your own hype doesn't pay off.
>
> Denham proved to be a really good back but dropped
> a crucial pass in the second quarter. Avyn really
> did a great job getting the tough yards at RB, a
> tough task when your playing Linebacker the whole
> game. Rockwood Rob's punter/Kicker had an amazing
> game, really keeping his team in it. He had a 50
> plus yard punt inside the 5 and two great corner
> kickoffs that forced a WF returner over the out of
> bounds. Not sure why Rob had him short kick his
> first kickoff, that gave WF great field position.
> The Rowlett int gave WF good field position that
> turned into a TD.
> I thought WF played a bit more intense and looked
> a tad more hungry. Rob after the last two years
> probably forgot how to win and didn't realize how
> hard it is to get to the playoffs. For some kids,
> it's a long season.
> I was impressed with Dan Meiers play calling,
> mixing up passes and all sorts of counters,
> outside runs etc... He also had Rowlett scramble
> out to the right and pass back to the left with
> good results. I think he will be really good next
> year. They did have a trick play with the TE
> getting a backwards pass in which he threw for a
> long first down. WF defense was put in bad
> positions at times due to the different looks the
> offense had. The last play as I found out, TE for
> Rob was supposed to run a 5 yard hitch and just
> kept running causing the pass to hit him in the
> back. There was a huge running lane had he caught
> it. WF just out executed Rob defense and we all
> know that a good defense wins in the playoffs.
This is an excellent summary of the game. I'd be giving more detailed comments but actual work has come into play...
Suffice to say I thought Westfield's offensive line played much better than vs. Hayfield and as a whole the team seemed more intense than last week.
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> I was at the Robinson game, it was a very hard
> fought game and could have gone either way. WF
> didn't pull any punches they did what worked for
> them the whole year, ground and pound and didn't
> back off to it. They did line up #1 at QB for
> direct snaps which proved to be very good for
> first downs. If Robinson held Thrasher to under
> 150 yards they would have won this game. Robinson
> did not make any adjustments on D which surprised
> me, with a WF feeble attempt to pass, I would have
> blitz'd, stacked the box and bring up safety's
> etc. The front line for WF is very big and had the
> better of the Rob D line. I was although
> impressed with Robinsons play calling and though
> other than one int that Jack Rowlett showed great
> poise. He threw some extremely nice passes in
> small areas with great accuracy. Joe Wilson
> played better, but doesn't have last years
> breakaway speed. He did make some great tackles on
> D. I'm sure Dam Meier was hoping for last years
> version of Wilson. Proof that not working out and
> being caught up in your own hype doesn't pay off.
>
> Denham proved to be a really good back but dropped
> a crucial pass in the second quarter. Avyn really
> did a great job getting the tough yards at RB, a
> tough task when your playing Linebacker the whole
> game. Rockwood Rob's punter/Kicker had an amazing
> game, really keeping his team in it. He had a 50
> plus yard punt inside the 5 and two great corner
> kickoffs that forced a WF returner over the out of
> bounds. Not sure why Rob had him short kick his
> first kickoff, that gave WF great field position.
> The Rowlett int gave WF good field position that
> turned into a TD.
> I thought WF played a bit more intense and looked
> a tad more hungry. Rob after the last two years
> probably forgot how to win and didn't realize how
> hard it is to get to the playoffs. For some kids,
> it's a long season.
> I was impressed with Dan Meiers play calling,
> mixing up passes and all sorts of counters,
> outside runs etc... He also had Rowlett scramble
> out to the right and pass back to the left with
> good results. I think he will be really good next
> year. They did have a trick play with the TE
> getting a backwards pass in which he threw for a
> long first down. WF defense was put in bad
> positions at times due to the different looks the
> offense had. The last play as I found out, TE for
> Rob was supposed to run a 5 yard hitch and just
> kept running causing the pass to hit him in the
> back. There was a huge running lane had he caught
> it. WF just out executed Rob defense and we all
> know that a good defense wins in the playoffs.
This is an excellent summary of the game. I'd be giving more detailed comments but actual work has come into play...
Suffice to say I thought Westfield's offensive line played much better than vs. Hayfield and as a whole the team seemed more intense than last week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NoCoach
()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:53PM
Broad Run vs Stone Bridge
What a terrible loss for the Stone Bridge program. BR is not a good football team and Mickey Thompson let SB just go through the motions all year and they underachieved.
Horrible refs in the game as there where 2 personal foul calls on the last drive of the game. The refs waited for the last drive of the game to try to clean it up?
Briar Woods will beat Broad Run again this week, probably shut them out. BW is well on the way to another state title.
What a terrible loss for the Stone Bridge program. BR is not a good football team and Mickey Thompson let SB just go through the motions all year and they underachieved.
Horrible refs in the game as there where 2 personal foul calls on the last drive of the game. The refs waited for the last drive of the game to try to clean it up?
Briar Woods will beat Broad Run again this week, probably shut them out. BW is well on the way to another state title.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Monday Morning Quarterdeck
()
Date: November 25, 2013 02:17PM
StoneBridgers always pimp-walk when they win and whine when they lose....you can take that to the bank.
Dan Meier was hoping to catapault one more season to a new job out-of-state. Don't call the moving van just yet.
The 757 will once again ride or die over the 703 in two weeks.
Dan Meier was hoping to catapault one more season to a new job out-of-state. Don't call the moving van just yet.
The 757 will once again ride or die over the 703 in two weeks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 03:11PM
I said I would go away but I actually wrote this and feel the need to confess, I can't stay away
Cville 24-7 what?
"
1. I like the fact that people are now saying Cville is the underdog to represent the north and LB is better because Cville's defense was exposed by SC.
2. SC can say all they want about what their offense did to Cville, the bottom line is Cville won. I dont care if they won by by 1 point or 100 points.They also won with a defense that was without their starting LB and an injured safety who pretty much played the game with one arm.
3. Tyler Love who is a very important part of Cville's LB core is recovering nicely and should be ready for the game against LB if they both meet in the regional finals.
4.If Tyler Love is back in a couple of weeks, Chad Wiggins will be able to resume his prowess of roaming the field and making plays in the backfield. This will put an end to the doubters notion about Cville having a dominant defense.
5. Biggest point of them all...Cville now has a chip on their shoulder and if all starters are healthy the next couple of weeks, watch out!
Cville 24-7 what?
"
1. I like the fact that people are now saying Cville is the underdog to represent the north and LB is better because Cville's defense was exposed by SC.
2. SC can say all they want about what their offense did to Cville, the bottom line is Cville won. I dont care if they won by by 1 point or 100 points.They also won with a defense that was without their starting LB and an injured safety who pretty much played the game with one arm.
3. Tyler Love who is a very important part of Cville's LB core is recovering nicely and should be ready for the game against LB if they both meet in the regional finals.
4.If Tyler Love is back in a couple of weeks, Chad Wiggins will be able to resume his prowess of roaming the field and making plays in the backfield. This will put an end to the doubters notion about Cville having a dominant defense.
5. Biggest point of them all...Cville now has a chip on their shoulder and if all starters are healthy the next couple of weeks, watch out!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HSref
()
Date: November 25, 2013 03:47PM
Love how fans bash the refs when their teams and or coaches don't perform up to expectations. There are great calls and questionable calls in every game. When several refs drop a flag on a play the ref's may have gotten one call right. I do understand it comes with the territory. have to blame someone.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fan of hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:18PM
Being a reader of this site for awhile I think the last few posts ascribed to hsfballfan are fakes. I do not think he would apologize like that. Just leave the dude's namesake alone and post on your own names. There seems to be too much flexibility in who everyone calls themselves. Use one name and go with it. I typically only use one name, using another only this time not to take grief from you hsfballfan detractors over the long haul. Agree hsfballfan was a homer and a bit odd but he did make it interesting, kinda like my crazy Uncle Joe. If he wants to move on let him go already.
By the way while I am at it - go Lake Braddock!
By the way while I am at it - go Lake Braddock!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
socofan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:27PM
Is it me or does Centreville not know how to use Tutt. What did he have 2 balls thrown his way. We could use him over here just saying!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:28PM
no it really is me I do want to confess I cant stay away, I cant stay away, believe believe, go Cville
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fan of hsfballfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:28PM
I rest my case
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:36PM
Folks, it is an easy matter to register your username on the site, takes all of 10 seconds, and no one else can post as you. Simple.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:38PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I said I would go away but I actually wrote this
> and feel the need to confess, I can't stay away
> Cville 24-7 what?
> "
> 1. I like the fact that people are now saying
> Cville is the underdog to represent the north and
> LB is better because Cville's defense was exposed
> by SC.
>
> 2. SC can say all they want about what their
> offense did to Cville, the bottom line is Cville
> won. I dont care if they won by by 1 point or 100
> points.They also won with a defense that was
> without their starting LB and an injured safety
> who pretty much played the game with one arm.
>
> 3. Tyler Love who is a very important part of
> Cville's LB core is recovering nicely and should
> be ready for the game against LB if they both meet
> in the regional finals.
>
> 4.If Tyler Love is back in a couple of weeks,
> Chad Wiggins will be able to resume his prowess of
> roaming the field and making plays in the
> backfield. This will put an end to the doubters
> notion about Cville having a dominant defense.
>
>
> 5. Biggest point of them all...Cville now has a
> chip on their shoulder and if all starters are
> healthy the next couple of weeks, watch out!
It's not just SC saying it. Plenty of people saw CV defense get dominated. Ok so what, it's over, SC lost, but it shows a serious CV weakness against a strong, shifty rushing attack, and they better work on it if they want to beat LB. They have to get through SJ first, which they probably will, but LB will be a different story. Quote all the stats you want, but having seen both teams play, if they played today LB would beat CV.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I said I would go away but I actually wrote this
> and feel the need to confess, I can't stay away
> Cville 24-7 what?
> "
> 1. I like the fact that people are now saying
> Cville is the underdog to represent the north and
> LB is better because Cville's defense was exposed
> by SC.
>
> 2. SC can say all they want about what their
> offense did to Cville, the bottom line is Cville
> won. I dont care if they won by by 1 point or 100
> points.They also won with a defense that was
> without their starting LB and an injured safety
> who pretty much played the game with one arm.
>
> 3. Tyler Love who is a very important part of
> Cville's LB core is recovering nicely and should
> be ready for the game against LB if they both meet
> in the regional finals.
>
> 4.If Tyler Love is back in a couple of weeks,
> Chad Wiggins will be able to resume his prowess of
> roaming the field and making plays in the
> backfield. This will put an end to the doubters
> notion about Cville having a dominant defense.
>
>
> 5. Biggest point of them all...Cville now has a
> chip on their shoulder and if all starters are
> healthy the next couple of weeks, watch out!
It's not just SC saying it. Plenty of people saw CV defense get dominated. Ok so what, it's over, SC lost, but it shows a serious CV weakness against a strong, shifty rushing attack, and they better work on it if they want to beat LB. They have to get through SJ first, which they probably will, but LB will be a different story. Quote all the stats you want, but having seen both teams play, if they played today LB would beat CV.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:45PM
Last weekend's contests just show us how close and how good the projected game between Centreville and Lake Braddock will be. Both teams have clearly shown their strengths and their weaknesses.
Here's an interesting nugget to think over: Lake Braddock will be well-tested in its game against Westfield, but can we say the same thing about Centreville?
Here's an interesting nugget to think over: Lake Braddock will be well-tested in its game against Westfield, but can we say the same thing about Centreville?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hsfhockeyfan
()
Date: November 25, 2013 08:56PM
I think Westfield's superior stick work will be the difference this week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 25, 2013 09:50PM
KeepitReal,
Excellent analysis. Any idea if Meier will be back next year.
What does Westfield need to do to make it a game with LB? I think Westfield has a pretty good chance to take this from LB, but it will be a very good game.
Have to concur that Centreville will handle Stonewall. Seen multiple films of Stonewall and they tend to play sandlot ball. Good talent, but not enough disciple to put things together in the crunch.
RootBoy,
Agree C’Ville defense is vulnerable to a strong running attack, but generally when coupled with the no huddle. They faced very strong running attacks by Westfield and Robinson, and did well. The key seemed to be the no huddle, as the secondary was completely confused most of the time, and the line was not playing the triple right.
Excellent analysis. Any idea if Meier will be back next year.
What does Westfield need to do to make it a game with LB? I think Westfield has a pretty good chance to take this from LB, but it will be a very good game.
Have to concur that Centreville will handle Stonewall. Seen multiple films of Stonewall and they tend to play sandlot ball. Good talent, but not enough disciple to put things together in the crunch.
RootBoy,
Agree C’Ville defense is vulnerable to a strong running attack, but generally when coupled with the no huddle. They faced very strong running attacks by Westfield and Robinson, and did well. The key seemed to be the no huddle, as the secondary was completely confused most of the time, and the line was not playing the triple right.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 25, 2013 10:12PM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal,
>
> Excellent analysis. Any idea if Meier will be
> back next year.
>
> What does Westfield need to do to make it a game
> with LB? I think Westfield has a pretty good
> chance to take this from LB, but it will be a very
> good game.
>
> Have to concur that Centreville will handle
> Stonewall. Seen multiple films of Stonewall and
> they tend to play sandlot ball. Good talent, but
> not enough disciple to put things together in the
> crunch.
>
> RootBoy,
>
> Agree C’Ville defense is vulnerable to a strong
> running attack, but generally when coupled with
> the no huddle. They faced very strong running
> attacks by Westfield and Robinson, and did well.
> The key seemed to be the no huddle, as the
> secondary was completely confused most of the
> time, and the line was not playing the triple
> right.
Westfield has a huge front line, but unfortunately they don't have a passing game and that will hurt them against LB. They also run basically tackle to tackle with #1 going outside on direct snaps. Hinder those two and put up 24 or more, LB will win. They key if the LB vs Centreville will be who puts up the most points.
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal,
>
> Excellent analysis. Any idea if Meier will be
> back next year.
>
> What does Westfield need to do to make it a game
> with LB? I think Westfield has a pretty good
> chance to take this from LB, but it will be a very
> good game.
>
> Have to concur that Centreville will handle
> Stonewall. Seen multiple films of Stonewall and
> they tend to play sandlot ball. Good talent, but
> not enough disciple to put things together in the
> crunch.
>
> RootBoy,
>
> Agree C’Ville defense is vulnerable to a strong
> running attack, but generally when coupled with
> the no huddle. They faced very strong running
> attacks by Westfield and Robinson, and did well.
> The key seemed to be the no huddle, as the
> secondary was completely confused most of the
> time, and the line was not playing the triple
> right.
Westfield has a huge front line, but unfortunately they don't have a passing game and that will hurt them against LB. They also run basically tackle to tackle with #1 going outside on direct snaps. Hinder those two and put up 24 or more, LB will win. They key if the LB vs Centreville will be who puts up the most points.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 25, 2013 10:29PM
...... Wrote:
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> If you tell me David Symmes shouldn't be going D1
> quarterback there's something wrong with you...
> Imagine if he actually cared more about football
> than lacrosse and how much better of a quarterback
> he would be.
Only saw Symmes play once this year - but he reminded me a lot of Oakton's Kyle Downer of last year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you tell me David Symmes shouldn't be going D1
> quarterback there's something wrong with you...
> Imagine if he actually cared more about football
> than lacrosse and how much better of a quarterback
> he would be.
Only saw Symmes play once this year - but he reminded me a lot of Oakton's Kyle Downer of last year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hey NoCoach
()
Date: November 25, 2013 11:31PM
Hey NoCoach,
Some good points about Stone Bridge not really preparing for game with Broad Run, and it caught up to them.
Broad Run is very athletic, and their QB is often fastest player on the team. SB had no answer for his read options. Neither did Freedom-Woodbridge the week before. Should BR have lost to them? Of course not. But SB underachieves just about every year. Briar Woods would have waxed them anyway.
But don't rip on Broad Run. Sound program and sound team coming of age. I don't thin they will beat Briar, but they are going to give them a battle this time around, wait and see. They will likely beat Briar and SB next year!
Briar is going to states - trust me.
Some good points about Stone Bridge not really preparing for game with Broad Run, and it caught up to them.
Broad Run is very athletic, and their QB is often fastest player on the team. SB had no answer for his read options. Neither did Freedom-Woodbridge the week before. Should BR have lost to them? Of course not. But SB underachieves just about every year. Briar Woods would have waxed them anyway.
But don't rip on Broad Run. Sound program and sound team coming of age. I don't thin they will beat Briar, but they are going to give them a battle this time around, wait and see. They will likely beat Briar and SB next year!
Briar is going to states - trust me.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 25, 2013 11:49PM
KeepitReal,
Do you think Westfield can slow down LB’s passing? They have some good DBs, although they played way to loose earlier in the year and gave Henderson open receivers all game long. (South County kept much tighter coverage, but Henderson exploited a couple kids for TDs.) LB’s receivers are tall and pretty good, but watching Westfield’s DBs over several games, they may have a better shot this time, if they keep tight coverage.
If they do shut down the pass, can Henderson and O’Brien get enough on the ground, again given Westfield’s pretty good run defense?
Do you think Westfield can slow down LB’s passing? They have some good DBs, although they played way to loose earlier in the year and gave Henderson open receivers all game long. (South County kept much tighter coverage, but Henderson exploited a couple kids for TDs.) LB’s receivers are tall and pretty good, but watching Westfield’s DBs over several games, they may have a better shot this time, if they keep tight coverage.
If they do shut down the pass, can Henderson and O’Brien get enough on the ground, again given Westfield’s pretty good run defense?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 26, 2013 10:19AM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal,
>
> Do you think Westfield can slow down LB’s
> passing? They have some good DBs, although they
> played way to loose earlier in the year and gave
> Henderson open receivers all game long. (South
> County kept much tighter coverage, but Henderson
> exploited a couple kids for TDs.) LB’s
> receivers are tall and pretty good, but watching
> Westfield’s DBs over several games, they may
> have a better shot this time, if they keep tight
> coverage.
>
> If they do shut down the pass, can Henderson and
> O’Brien get enough on the ground, again given
> Westfield’s pretty good run defense?
From what I saw last Friday, Robinson exploited WF DB's and defense with the passing game. Don't get me wrong, running is Robinson's MO, but the game showed me you can effectively use a play action and roll out passing game to win against WF. LB has a great running game with Caleb, Trevor, and Dejeon Lee. The weapons that LB can use between Calebs ability to scramble, the receivers and running backs will be hard to beat. WF has one good trait, their big up front, have a pound in your face running back and a really good quick Back to alternate with. The reason Cville is so good, they have multiple threats with a good solid defense. I think LB has gotten better over the season whereas WF has stayed the same. If LB can get through WF and meet Cville the following week, again they will have to put up big points to do so. I think they finish games better than SoCo. What hurt Cville, they never faced a good offense before SoCo, but LB is even better. The way SoCo played Cville, proved two possible points, LB kids may now know that Cville is beatable and Cville may not take a game for granted. It also could put doubt in the Cville players minds too. A good offensive and Defensive scheme is one thing, but one thing coaches can't control, is the emotion of their team or how inspired they play. You can give them all the Rah RAH SPEACH, but on the field it's up to the players
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/26/2013 10:26AM by KeepitReal.
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> KeepitReal,
>
> Do you think Westfield can slow down LB’s
> passing? They have some good DBs, although they
> played way to loose earlier in the year and gave
> Henderson open receivers all game long. (South
> County kept much tighter coverage, but Henderson
> exploited a couple kids for TDs.) LB’s
> receivers are tall and pretty good, but watching
> Westfield’s DBs over several games, they may
> have a better shot this time, if they keep tight
> coverage.
>
> If they do shut down the pass, can Henderson and
> O’Brien get enough on the ground, again given
> Westfield’s pretty good run defense?
From what I saw last Friday, Robinson exploited WF DB's and defense with the passing game. Don't get me wrong, running is Robinson's MO, but the game showed me you can effectively use a play action and roll out passing game to win against WF. LB has a great running game with Caleb, Trevor, and Dejeon Lee. The weapons that LB can use between Calebs ability to scramble, the receivers and running backs will be hard to beat. WF has one good trait, their big up front, have a pound in your face running back and a really good quick Back to alternate with. The reason Cville is so good, they have multiple threats with a good solid defense. I think LB has gotten better over the season whereas WF has stayed the same. If LB can get through WF and meet Cville the following week, again they will have to put up big points to do so. I think they finish games better than SoCo. What hurt Cville, they never faced a good offense before SoCo, but LB is even better. The way SoCo played Cville, proved two possible points, LB kids may now know that Cville is beatable and Cville may not take a game for granted. It also could put doubt in the Cville players minds too. A good offensive and Defensive scheme is one thing, but one thing coaches can't control, is the emotion of their team or how inspired they play. You can give them all the Rah RAH SPEACH, but on the field it's up to the players
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/26/2013 10:26AM by KeepitReal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 26, 2013 02:38PM
KeepitReal Wrote:
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> From what I saw last Friday, Robinson exploited WF
> DB's and defense with the passing game. Don't get
> me wrong, running is Robinson's MO, but the game
> showed me you can effectively use a play action
> and roll out passing game to win against WF.
Exploit is a bit over-stated I think. Robinson completed 7 passes for 77 yards (and the drop that could have been an important completion). But Westfield's vulnerability to play-action/roll out is nothing really new or striking. Their defense has showed ability to adapt to a lot of different styles of offense this year. Haven't given up more than 28 points in a game all season.
I'd like to see Westfield get Evan Gray involved in the offense against LB. They've kept him under wraps in the playoffs. He showed a lot of ability on catching passes coming out of the backfield and I look for some of that this weekend.
-------------------------------------------------------
> From what I saw last Friday, Robinson exploited WF
> DB's and defense with the passing game. Don't get
> me wrong, running is Robinson's MO, but the game
> showed me you can effectively use a play action
> and roll out passing game to win against WF.
Exploit is a bit over-stated I think. Robinson completed 7 passes for 77 yards (and the drop that could have been an important completion). But Westfield's vulnerability to play-action/roll out is nothing really new or striking. Their defense has showed ability to adapt to a lot of different styles of offense this year. Haven't given up more than 28 points in a game all season.
I'd like to see Westfield get Evan Gray involved in the offense against LB. They've kept him under wraps in the playoffs. He showed a lot of ability on catching passes coming out of the backfield and I look for some of that this weekend.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 26, 2013 06:03PM
My ex wife is the one who did the exploiting
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 26, 2013 11:17PM
KeepitReal,
C’Ville’s secondary is overrated. (And I include #23 in this mix. He’s a great running back, but to loose on his coverage. Same with #2.) They make spectacular plays (i.e., interceptions for TDs, typically when an inexperienced QB makes an errant throw or poor decision), but they do not cover receivers great. I’ve seen the DBs, and LBs, beat by a few/many yards on way to many occasions. Against a run of the mill QB that would probably be acceptable. Against a college lever passer, like Henderson, they are in trouble. If they don’t cover better or get someone who can, then the probable game against Henderson will be very interesting. (Next week’s LB-Westfield game, however, should still be terrific.)
Regarding Henderson. I have seen him on film and in person a number of times. I think he’s also overrated. He’s a good runner, but in my view not a good passer, despite the UNC offer. His lack of precision in his passes and tendency to heave the long ball hoping the receiver will run under it are minuses.
In the long run, the game could come down to whether C’Ville covers better or Henderson throws more accurately. If the C’Ville DBs don’t cover better, or find someone who can cover better, then Henderson’s passing could be the difference in the game.
At this point, the secondary is probably C’Ville’s weakest link. Their D-Line, however, also looks like it needs a lot of work as well, based on Friday’s game.
C’Ville’s secondary is overrated. (And I include #23 in this mix. He’s a great running back, but to loose on his coverage. Same with #2.) They make spectacular plays (i.e., interceptions for TDs, typically when an inexperienced QB makes an errant throw or poor decision), but they do not cover receivers great. I’ve seen the DBs, and LBs, beat by a few/many yards on way to many occasions. Against a run of the mill QB that would probably be acceptable. Against a college lever passer, like Henderson, they are in trouble. If they don’t cover better or get someone who can, then the probable game against Henderson will be very interesting. (Next week’s LB-Westfield game, however, should still be terrific.)
Regarding Henderson. I have seen him on film and in person a number of times. I think he’s also overrated. He’s a good runner, but in my view not a good passer, despite the UNC offer. His lack of precision in his passes and tendency to heave the long ball hoping the receiver will run under it are minuses.
In the long run, the game could come down to whether C’Ville covers better or Henderson throws more accurately. If the C’Ville DBs don’t cover better, or find someone who can cover better, then Henderson’s passing could be the difference in the game.
At this point, the secondary is probably C’Ville’s weakest link. Their D-Line, however, also looks like it needs a lot of work as well, based on Friday’s game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 27, 2013 08:16AM
RydellRoad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > From what I saw last Friday, Robinson exploited
> WF
> > DB's and defense with the passing game. Don't
> get
> > me wrong, running is Robinson's MO, but the
> game
> > showed me you can effectively use a play action
> > and roll out passing game to win against WF.
>
> Exploit is a bit over-stated I think. Robinson
> completed 7 passes for 77 yards (and the drop that
> could have been an important completion). But
> Westfield's vulnerability to play-action/roll out
> is nothing really new or striking. Their defense
> has showed ability to adapt to a lot of different
> styles of offense this year. Haven't given up
> more than 28 points in a game all season.
>
> I'd like to see Westfield get Evan Gray involved
> in the offense against LB. They've kept him under
> wraps in the playoffs. He showed a lot of ability
> on catching passes coming out of the backfield and
> I look for some of that this weekend.
I probably didn't use the right term, but what I did mean was they were exposed in my eyes to a team that is proficient in the passing game. If you remember in the Robinson game, there were two other long passes dropped in the game that went in and out of the receivers hands. Rowlett would have had well over 100 yards in the game and for a running team that's a lot. I think they could have passed more. As we say in NY nothing for nothing WF Won the game.
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > From what I saw last Friday, Robinson exploited
> WF
> > DB's and defense with the passing game. Don't
> get
> > me wrong, running is Robinson's MO, but the
> game
> > showed me you can effectively use a play action
> > and roll out passing game to win against WF.
>
> Exploit is a bit over-stated I think. Robinson
> completed 7 passes for 77 yards (and the drop that
> could have been an important completion). But
> Westfield's vulnerability to play-action/roll out
> is nothing really new or striking. Their defense
> has showed ability to adapt to a lot of different
> styles of offense this year. Haven't given up
> more than 28 points in a game all season.
>
> I'd like to see Westfield get Evan Gray involved
> in the offense against LB. They've kept him under
> wraps in the playoffs. He showed a lot of ability
> on catching passes coming out of the backfield and
> I look for some of that this weekend.
I probably didn't use the right term, but what I did mean was they were exposed in my eyes to a team that is proficient in the passing game. If you remember in the Robinson game, there were two other long passes dropped in the game that went in and out of the receivers hands. Rowlett would have had well over 100 yards in the game and for a running team that's a lot. I think they could have passed more. As we say in NY nothing for nothing WF Won the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: November 27, 2013 08:22AM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal,
>
> C’Ville’s secondary is overrated. (And I
> include #23 in this mix. He’s a great running
> back, but to loose on his coverage. Same with
> #2.) They make spectacular plays (i.e.,
> interceptions for TDs, typically when an
> inexperienced QB makes an errant throw or poor
> decision), but they do not cover receivers great.
> I’ve seen the DBs, and LBs, beat by a few/many
> yards on way to many occasions. Against a run of
> the mill QB that would probably be acceptable.
> Against a college lever passer, like Henderson,
> they are in trouble. If they don’t cover better
> or get someone who can, then the probable game
> against Henderson will be very interesting. (Next
> week’s LB-Westfield game, however, should still
> be terrific.)
>
> Regarding Henderson. I have seen him on film and
> in person a number of times. I think he’s also
> overrated. He’s a good runner, but in my view
> not a good passer, despite the UNC offer. His
> lack of precision in his passes and tendency to
> heave the long ball hoping the receiver will run
> under it are minuses.
>
> In the long run, the game could come down to
> whether C’Ville covers better or Henderson
> throws more accurately. If the C’Ville DBs
> don’t cover better, or find someone who can
> cover better, then Henderson’s passing could be
> the difference in the game.
>
> At this point, the secondary is probably
> C’Ville’s weakest link. Their D-Line,
> however, also looks like it needs a lot of work as
> well, based on Friday’s game.
I can't speak on behalf of Cville, but agree about your assessment on Caleb, he's not a Neibrict or a Glennon for passing, but he does have those games when it comes together. His receivers on a whole are better this year and the running game had been established early in the year whereas last season midway through. Their quick screen passes work great to stop the rush. I want to see how they play WF, if they put up major numbers I will be more convinced for the following week.
-------------------------------------------------------
> KeepitReal,
>
> C’Ville’s secondary is overrated. (And I
> include #23 in this mix. He’s a great running
> back, but to loose on his coverage. Same with
> #2.) They make spectacular plays (i.e.,
> interceptions for TDs, typically when an
> inexperienced QB makes an errant throw or poor
> decision), but they do not cover receivers great.
> I’ve seen the DBs, and LBs, beat by a few/many
> yards on way to many occasions. Against a run of
> the mill QB that would probably be acceptable.
> Against a college lever passer, like Henderson,
> they are in trouble. If they don’t cover better
> or get someone who can, then the probable game
> against Henderson will be very interesting. (Next
> week’s LB-Westfield game, however, should still
> be terrific.)
>
> Regarding Henderson. I have seen him on film and
> in person a number of times. I think he’s also
> overrated. He’s a good runner, but in my view
> not a good passer, despite the UNC offer. His
> lack of precision in his passes and tendency to
> heave the long ball hoping the receiver will run
> under it are minuses.
>
> In the long run, the game could come down to
> whether C’Ville covers better or Henderson
> throws more accurately. If the C’Ville DBs
> don’t cover better, or find someone who can
> cover better, then Henderson’s passing could be
> the difference in the game.
>
> At this point, the secondary is probably
> C’Ville’s weakest link. Their D-Line,
> however, also looks like it needs a lot of work as
> well, based on Friday’s game.
I can't speak on behalf of Cville, but agree about your assessment on Caleb, he's not a Neibrict or a Glennon for passing, but he does have those games when it comes together. His receivers on a whole are better this year and the running game had been established early in the year whereas last season midway through. Their quick screen passes work great to stop the rush. I want to see how they play WF, if they put up major numbers I will be more convinced for the following week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 27, 2013 08:38AM
KeepitReal Wrote:
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> I probably didn't use the right term, but what I
> did mean was they were exposed in my eyes to a
> team that is proficient in the passing game. If
> you remember in the Robinson game, there were two
> other long passes dropped in the game that went in
> and out of the receivers hands. Rowlett would have
> had well over 100 yards in the game and for a
> running team that's a lot. I think they could have
> passed more. As we say in NY nothing for nothing
> WF Won the game.
Henderson (LB), Thompson (SB) and Sydnor (Chantilly) all had decent games against Westfield throwing the ball. It's hard to stop both - WF decided to stop the run against and make Robinson beat them throwing the ball. Don't think that will work against LB.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I probably didn't use the right term, but what I
> did mean was they were exposed in my eyes to a
> team that is proficient in the passing game. If
> you remember in the Robinson game, there were two
> other long passes dropped in the game that went in
> and out of the receivers hands. Rowlett would have
> had well over 100 yards in the game and for a
> running team that's a lot. I think they could have
> passed more. As we say in NY nothing for nothing
> WF Won the game.
Henderson (LB), Thompson (SB) and Sydnor (Chantilly) all had decent games against Westfield throwing the ball. It's hard to stop both - WF decided to stop the run against and make Robinson beat them throwing the ball. Don't think that will work against LB.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
C'Ville is a Joke
()
Date: November 27, 2013 10:19AM
C'Ville will make it to the state championship, and they will get crushed (again) by Oscar Smith!! They are overrated, and not ready for any kind of speed. Have fun practicing for the next three weeks, only to get crushed (again) by Oscar Smith!! Catch us if you can!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dP_hGOugQLE
Go Tigers!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dP_hGOugQLE
Go Tigers!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hmmmmmmm
()
Date: November 27, 2013 10:53AM
Hey Viking, in a single post you call Henderson a college level passer, and then a few sentences later you say that he is not a good passer. Which is it?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Eff Ewe
()
Date: November 27, 2013 01:11PM
To the poster "CVille is a Joke" - they will be competitive and at least do it with kids who actually should go to CVille instead of recruiting and playing shady transfer games with kids from all over Tidewater to come to Oscar Smith. You will get yours, bad karma has a way of returning sooner or later.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 27, 2013 01:24PM
Good one Eff Ewe - I hear a lot of stories about cheating down in the 757 with football. Guess they cannot win with the teams in their schools so they pay kids from other schools to come in and play football. VHSL should investigate.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tidewater is Cheating
()
Date: November 27, 2013 01:37PM
I have heard the same thing. Too bad they have to do that down there, just play it straight dammit. This is not college.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NoCoach
()
Date: November 27, 2013 01:48PM
I agree, Briar Woods will probably get to State Championship game this year and then probably fall off after this season when Trace graduates.
As for Stone Bridge, their program is in shambles. Unless they do some recruiting this offseason, they are destined for mediocrity, All their size and team speed is gone. They should have won state title last season when they had their best team and best chance.
Broad Run is a middling program with too many injuries and too many coaches leaving. Plus, they don't play with a alot of respect (they are dirty and talk a ton) which is why their program is not well liked through the state.
As for Stone Bridge, their program is in shambles. Unless they do some recruiting this offseason, they are destined for mediocrity, All their size and team speed is gone. They should have won state title last season when they had their best team and best chance.
Broad Run is a middling program with too many injuries and too many coaches leaving. Plus, they don't play with a alot of respect (they are dirty and talk a ton) which is why their program is not well liked through the state.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 02:04PM
C'Ville is a Joke Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> C'Ville will make it to the state championship,
> and they will get crushed (again) by Oscar Smith!!
> They are overrated, and not ready for any kind of
> speed. Have fun practicing for the next three
> weeks, only to get crushed (again) by Oscar
> Smith!! Catch us if you can!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd
> ed&v=dP_hGOugQLE
>
> Go Tigers!!
----------------------
I saw Smith's 42-2 win over defending D5 champ Lake Taylor. The Tigers' DL looked as good as its 2011 title team. Yet that was 11 games ago and Smith has to beat 2 more teams just to get to UVA. One team left is O. Lakes, which beat Smith in 2012 playoffs and gave Bird a tough game at UVA, 10-14. Like you, I "think" Smith will get to UVA but nobody should be surprised if O Lakes punks them again.
In the North, I saw LB last week and earlier. Its O is deceptively balanced and good. I have not seen C'Ville --- but that team blanked Westfield and outscored SoCo 27-0 in Q4. You know it just comes down to which team handles adversity and makes plays in key situations. That 2011 C'ville team was good, but didn't handle Smith's DL or respond after its star got hurt early. That same day, SoCo-Phoebus were 10-10 in the 3rd until Deloatch got loose on a few pass plays. He did the same thing in 2010. This Sat I'm watching C'Ville-SJ, expecting C'Ville to win by 10-14 points or so. Yet in the back of my mind is that SJ's losses came early in the year -- and that it just beat 2 higher seeds to get here. We are a long way from UVA and any team can have a bad or good game at this point. They all have done well this year; now it's a 3 game season.
-------------------------------------------------------
> C'Ville will make it to the state championship,
> and they will get crushed (again) by Oscar Smith!!
> They are overrated, and not ready for any kind of
> speed. Have fun practicing for the next three
> weeks, only to get crushed (again) by Oscar
> Smith!! Catch us if you can!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd
> ed&v=dP_hGOugQLE
>
> Go Tigers!!
----------------------
I saw Smith's 42-2 win over defending D5 champ Lake Taylor. The Tigers' DL looked as good as its 2011 title team. Yet that was 11 games ago and Smith has to beat 2 more teams just to get to UVA. One team left is O. Lakes, which beat Smith in 2012 playoffs and gave Bird a tough game at UVA, 10-14. Like you, I "think" Smith will get to UVA but nobody should be surprised if O Lakes punks them again.
In the North, I saw LB last week and earlier. Its O is deceptively balanced and good. I have not seen C'Ville --- but that team blanked Westfield and outscored SoCo 27-0 in Q4. You know it just comes down to which team handles adversity and makes plays in key situations. That 2011 C'ville team was good, but didn't handle Smith's DL or respond after its star got hurt early. That same day, SoCo-Phoebus were 10-10 in the 3rd until Deloatch got loose on a few pass plays. He did the same thing in 2010. This Sat I'm watching C'Ville-SJ, expecting C'Ville to win by 10-14 points or so. Yet in the back of my mind is that SJ's losses came early in the year -- and that it just beat 2 higher seeds to get here. We are a long way from UVA and any team can have a bad or good game at this point. They all have done well this year; now it's a 3 game season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 03:02PM
Eff Ewe Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> To the poster "CVille is a Joke" - they will be
> competitive and at least do it with kids who
> actually should go to CVille instead of recruiting
> and playing shady transfer games with kids from
> all over Tidewater to come to Oscar Smith. You
> will get yours, bad karma has a way of returning
> sooner or later.
-----------
Every region has kids who move around, legitimately. LB's QB transferred from WestPo. It was legal but people on this board complained for months. Now we have unsubstantiated complaints from posters here re 757 teams. Smith's Alabama-bound player Andrew Brown is no illegal transfer. See for yourself. The 757 teams have rivalries and know their players just like we do here. Those rivalries help to keep illegal recruiting in check. Lake Taylor crushed Phoebus last year 54-0 yet you didn't see Phoebes kids transferring. Instead, they put together a good season that included a tough 24-20 loss to DeMaths, our #1 ranked team. Rather than accuse based on rumor, please go see Smith, Ocean Lakes, Western Branch, Lake Taylor or Phoebus play one another. You will see the rivalries. The old NR has had 6 different teams win D6 in the past 20 years. That is great and shows the balance you have over time. If you look at ER, you see a similar thing. LANDSTOWN was great and titled but now it's Smith and Ocean Lakes with a few close followers and Lake Taylor and Phoebus in D5 and D4, respectively. Then look the schools putting players into D1 schools for ER; you will see that the talent is very dispersed, not concentrated. You can choose to believe the rumors or you can educate yourself about the region and appreciate how tough it is to title at UVA regardless of a team's regional origin.
-------------------------------------------------------
> To the poster "CVille is a Joke" - they will be
> competitive and at least do it with kids who
> actually should go to CVille instead of recruiting
> and playing shady transfer games with kids from
> all over Tidewater to come to Oscar Smith. You
> will get yours, bad karma has a way of returning
> sooner or later.
-----------
Every region has kids who move around, legitimately. LB's QB transferred from WestPo. It was legal but people on this board complained for months. Now we have unsubstantiated complaints from posters here re 757 teams. Smith's Alabama-bound player Andrew Brown is no illegal transfer. See for yourself. The 757 teams have rivalries and know their players just like we do here. Those rivalries help to keep illegal recruiting in check. Lake Taylor crushed Phoebus last year 54-0 yet you didn't see Phoebes kids transferring. Instead, they put together a good season that included a tough 24-20 loss to DeMaths, our #1 ranked team. Rather than accuse based on rumor, please go see Smith, Ocean Lakes, Western Branch, Lake Taylor or Phoebus play one another. You will see the rivalries. The old NR has had 6 different teams win D6 in the past 20 years. That is great and shows the balance you have over time. If you look at ER, you see a similar thing. LANDSTOWN was great and titled but now it's Smith and Ocean Lakes with a few close followers and Lake Taylor and Phoebus in D5 and D4, respectively. Then look the schools putting players into D1 schools for ER; you will see that the talent is very dispersed, not concentrated. You can choose to believe the rumors or you can educate yourself about the region and appreciate how tough it is to title at UVA regardless of a team's regional origin.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 03:37PM
People should back up their claims of unfairness between regions. Last year, nobody here complained of illegal whatever when Bird from the CR came to Oakton and crushed the NR D6 champ and then beat Ocean Lakes at UVA. Also last year, nobody complained about transfers when we went to UVA and fumbled 10 yards away from getting our 2nd D5 title in 5 years. I've seen almost every SB playoff game since the school was built and every recent D6 and D5 title game at UVA. Usually, games have been close and the talent evenly distributed. Anybody who says beach teams are much better than here or in the old CR hasn't seen enough teams and games, including those Westfield title teams or last year's Bird. I'm aware of rivalries in both places and laugh at claims that teams cheat. The talent is too spread out for that and any of the remaining D6 and D5 teams could go 3-0 at this point. People said Oakton would lose in the first round of NR playoffs last year, yet won all 3 games.
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Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cheetahaz
()
Date: November 27, 2013 04:01PM
Too bad the 757 have to recruit players through special programs that mask football players coming in to play. Poor sportsmanship.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WestfieldDad
()
Date: November 27, 2013 04:32PM
O Smith had the speed advantage over Westfield in 2007 - 3 D1 senior recruit receivers and the junior was the fastest kid on the field, but Westfield won anyway.
Reasons...
Westfield had a great punting/kicking game, O Smith's was dreadful. 25 yards a punt difference, field goals from the 30+ and kickoffs into the endzone.
Glennon - Glennon a senior - threw darts, had a senior's gamesmanship, and had the confidence of everyone on the team - they "knew" he'd get it done and he did, too.
And, as Berdhius said, luck.
C'Ville is a Joke Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> C'Ville will make it to the state championship,
> and they will get crushed (again) by Oscar Smith!!
> They are overrated, and not ready for any kind of
> speed. Have fun practicing for the next three
> weeks, only to get crushed (again) by Oscar
> Smith!! Catch us if you can!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd
> ed&v=dP_hGOugQLE
>
> Go Tigers!!
Reasons...
Westfield had a great punting/kicking game, O Smith's was dreadful. 25 yards a punt difference, field goals from the 30+ and kickoffs into the endzone.
Glennon - Glennon a senior - threw darts, had a senior's gamesmanship, and had the confidence of everyone on the team - they "knew" he'd get it done and he did, too.
And, as Berdhius said, luck.
C'Ville is a Joke Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> C'Ville will make it to the state championship,
> and they will get crushed (again) by Oscar Smith!!
> They are overrated, and not ready for any kind of
> speed. Have fun practicing for the next three
> weeks, only to get crushed (again) by Oscar
> Smith!! Catch us if you can!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd
> ed&v=dP_hGOugQLE
>
> Go Tigers!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The 703
()
Date: November 27, 2013 04:35PM
On the eve of Thxgiving I am thankful this kind of cheating does not happen so much in the 703 except maybe for Henderson
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 27, 2013 05:12PM
You people who make claims of cheating don't know "jack" about how VHSL cut down on that back in 1998 and since. In 1998, they made the change that prevents a student from moving in with a family member who is not a parent and playing for the new school within 365 days.
http://articles.dailypress.com/1998-05-08/sports/9805080014_1_transfer-eligibility-new-rules-move
You also ignore the VHSL rule that a player living with a parent or guardian can't play for another school without a change in physical address, e.g., what happened at LB with Henderson. Just like up here, programs differ by school, e.g., IB programs. That's the same as down there--O.Smith offers an IB program. Here's the rule on those transfers who "cheat" by applying for competitive admission into it:
http://www.cpschools.com/Schools/OSH/PDFs/IBApplication.pdf
If you go IB, and then quit, you still can't go back to your school and play within 365 days.
WL and some other schools here have IB. WB just beat Yorktown in reg season for the first time in 30 years. Some students in the Yorktown district transfer to WL to attend WL's IB program. Does that mean WL cheated this year to beat Yorktown? Your comments about special programs masking football players moving around is a joke. You don't think the other teams would blow the whistle on that in a second? You saw it up here with LB and the crybabies were wrong, just like this time.
As was already stated on here, you posters ought to shut up or put up with your claims of cheating or unfair advantage. You act as if there's no way the North can compete or that it doesn't have special programs and NEVER had has a transfer. Oh, and I guess we're to believe that VHSL is complicit in the alleged cheating.
FB teaches you how to overcome adversity and not let teams dictate to you. Yet you posters already are making excuses and spreading rumors about players who just want to play and win--just like the players here. I'm not from the ER or the NR and played in the SEC. Everybody in that conference knows that the eastern part of VA has talent every year. That has nothing to do with transfers, recruiting, etc. Just look at who is playing D1, including at places such as Clemson, FLA STATE, etc.. Oh, and Jon Allen from SB lat year? When he was a kid guess where he lived? ER. This year, Andrew Brown has committed to Alabama. You do him a disservice with your lame posts.
http://articles.dailypress.com/1998-05-08/sports/9805080014_1_transfer-eligibility-new-rules-move
You also ignore the VHSL rule that a player living with a parent or guardian can't play for another school without a change in physical address, e.g., what happened at LB with Henderson. Just like up here, programs differ by school, e.g., IB programs. That's the same as down there--O.Smith offers an IB program. Here's the rule on those transfers who "cheat" by applying for competitive admission into it:
http://www.cpschools.com/Schools/OSH/PDFs/IBApplication.pdf
If you go IB, and then quit, you still can't go back to your school and play within 365 days.
WL and some other schools here have IB. WB just beat Yorktown in reg season for the first time in 30 years. Some students in the Yorktown district transfer to WL to attend WL's IB program. Does that mean WL cheated this year to beat Yorktown? Your comments about special programs masking football players moving around is a joke. You don't think the other teams would blow the whistle on that in a second? You saw it up here with LB and the crybabies were wrong, just like this time.
As was already stated on here, you posters ought to shut up or put up with your claims of cheating or unfair advantage. You act as if there's no way the North can compete or that it doesn't have special programs and NEVER had has a transfer. Oh, and I guess we're to believe that VHSL is complicit in the alleged cheating.
FB teaches you how to overcome adversity and not let teams dictate to you. Yet you posters already are making excuses and spreading rumors about players who just want to play and win--just like the players here. I'm not from the ER or the NR and played in the SEC. Everybody in that conference knows that the eastern part of VA has talent every year. That has nothing to do with transfers, recruiting, etc. Just look at who is playing D1, including at places such as Clemson, FLA STATE, etc.. Oh, and Jon Allen from SB lat year? When he was a kid guess where he lived? ER. This year, Andrew Brown has committed to Alabama. You do him a disservice with your lame posts.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 05:30PM
Wow, I can't believe everyone is already anticipating a Centreville vs. Lake Braddock 6A North title game. If I’m not mistaken there are 2 games on Saturday to determine who gets to the championship game.
Not saying Centreville and Lake Braddock don't have a very legitimate shot to advance but anything can happen. Remember, their just a bunch of 15-18 kids out there who can and will make mistakes. I think Westfield has proven over the past 2 post season you certainly can expect the unexpected.
The Centreville-Stonewall Jackson game will come down to Stonewall’s inability to stop teams from scoring. Their offense can score points without a doubt but defense wins championships. Seen them on film and they just don't scare anyone from a defensive standpoint. Centreville is just too loaded on both sides of the ball, I would be surprised if Centreville didn’t win by at least 14.
The Westfield-Lake Braddock game might be closer than most think, remember LB won the game earlier this year 28-24. I watched the film, Westfield fumbled the first LB punt and set LB up inside the 20 for their first score. Wide receiver for Westfield, #1, dropped a wide open pass in the end zone just before half on 3rd down, bumbled snap on 4th and Westfield came away with 0 points. Early in the 3rd with LB up 14-9 Westfield attempted a fake punt, failed, LB got the ball on the Westfield side of the 50, another short field for their 3rd TD. The game winning TD came with under 2 minutes to go, the play before looked like Henderson threw an INT but refs said incomplete, looked good on film. Westfield got the ball back and drove the field only to have an INT at LB's 12 yard line with about 24 seconds or so. Also, Tyler Thrasher-Walker didn't play much of the 2nd half, he must have been injured, that’s the only reason why you wouldn’t have that kid on the field, he is a beast.
I honestly think this game could go either way, Westfield's strength is their D, huge DL's who are fast and aggressive. Their LB's can hit, their DB's too, yes I know they gave up a big play against Robinson but that looked to be a blown coverage. Also, Westfield has a big OL as well, they like to pound the ball, the last few games they've run the wildcat with Burns(#1) as the QB, he will be the fastest kid on the field Saturday. If Westfield can establish the run Henderson’s opportunities could be limited, best way to beat LB is to keep their QB on the sideline.
I just think anyone that believes the Westfield game will be a walk in the park for Lake Braddock might consider this, Westfield's only 2 losses were against the top 2 seeds. I would imagine they have a pretty decent team over there, LB might not want to look past them!
Not saying Centreville and Lake Braddock don't have a very legitimate shot to advance but anything can happen. Remember, their just a bunch of 15-18 kids out there who can and will make mistakes. I think Westfield has proven over the past 2 post season you certainly can expect the unexpected.
The Centreville-Stonewall Jackson game will come down to Stonewall’s inability to stop teams from scoring. Their offense can score points without a doubt but defense wins championships. Seen them on film and they just don't scare anyone from a defensive standpoint. Centreville is just too loaded on both sides of the ball, I would be surprised if Centreville didn’t win by at least 14.
The Westfield-Lake Braddock game might be closer than most think, remember LB won the game earlier this year 28-24. I watched the film, Westfield fumbled the first LB punt and set LB up inside the 20 for their first score. Wide receiver for Westfield, #1, dropped a wide open pass in the end zone just before half on 3rd down, bumbled snap on 4th and Westfield came away with 0 points. Early in the 3rd with LB up 14-9 Westfield attempted a fake punt, failed, LB got the ball on the Westfield side of the 50, another short field for their 3rd TD. The game winning TD came with under 2 minutes to go, the play before looked like Henderson threw an INT but refs said incomplete, looked good on film. Westfield got the ball back and drove the field only to have an INT at LB's 12 yard line with about 24 seconds or so. Also, Tyler Thrasher-Walker didn't play much of the 2nd half, he must have been injured, that’s the only reason why you wouldn’t have that kid on the field, he is a beast.
I honestly think this game could go either way, Westfield's strength is their D, huge DL's who are fast and aggressive. Their LB's can hit, their DB's too, yes I know they gave up a big play against Robinson but that looked to be a blown coverage. Also, Westfield has a big OL as well, they like to pound the ball, the last few games they've run the wildcat with Burns(#1) as the QB, he will be the fastest kid on the field Saturday. If Westfield can establish the run Henderson’s opportunities could be limited, best way to beat LB is to keep their QB on the sideline.
I just think anyone that believes the Westfield game will be a walk in the park for Lake Braddock might consider this, Westfield's only 2 losses were against the top 2 seeds. I would imagine they have a pretty decent team over there, LB might not want to look past them!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
aghast at the news
()
Date: November 27, 2013 06:14PM
I have heard from many people (credible sources all of them) as well both in 703 and 757 about the cheating that goes on in both places but especially in the 757. Shameful, shameful, shameful.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 27, 2013 06:40PM
Just take a look at Oscar Smith defensive line, you are telling me no transfers - guess they grow multiple 300 lb 4.7 speed kids down there in a few block radius. I also have swamp land to sell you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concerned parents
()
Date: November 27, 2013 06:45PM
I had not heard about this, can anyone feel me in more about the cheating you are discussing here. Hope this is not going on down there in South VA.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 27, 2013 06:49PM
Concerned Parents, there is rampant recruiting and transferring and stacking of teams down in Tidewater area. Bunch of BS that VHSL should stop.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concerned parents
()
Date: November 27, 2013 06:50PM
thx, yikes - that is not good
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 27, 2013 06:54PM
Fan Wrote:
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> Also, Tyler Thrasher-Walker didn't play much of the 2nd half,
> he must have been injured, that’s the only
> reason why you wouldn’t have that kid on the
> field, he is a beast.
No one ever mentioned it because he is a tough kid, but yes, he hurt his shoulder in the Fairfax game. Look at his numbers the following week vs. SB and then Cville. Don't know if he is 100% even now. I might add it was on a late hit - he was about 5 feet out of bounds... and there was no penalty called.
http://gameday.smugmug.com/Football/FOOTBALL-2013/Westfield-vs-Fairfax-Photos-By/i-ctdJ9rT
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> Also, Tyler Thrasher-Walker didn't play much of the 2nd half,
> he must have been injured, that’s the only
> reason why you wouldn’t have that kid on the
> field, he is a beast.
No one ever mentioned it because he is a tough kid, but yes, he hurt his shoulder in the Fairfax game. Look at his numbers the following week vs. SB and then Cville. Don't know if he is 100% even now. I might add it was on a late hit - he was about 5 feet out of bounds... and there was no penalty called.
http://gameday.smugmug.com/Football/FOOTBALL-2013/Westfield-vs-Fairfax-Photos-By/i-ctdJ9rT
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:25PM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
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> Just take a look at Oscar Smith defensive line,
> you are telling me no transfers - guess they grow
> multiple 300 lb 4.7 speed kids down there in a few
> block radius. I also have swamp land to sell you.
------
You are SO wrong about O. Smith--it doesn't have ANY DL who runs 4.7. Andrew Brown, the Alabama recruit, runs 5.06. See recruiting.scout.com. Also, the fastest 40 ever for a 300 pounder was Terron Armstesd's 4.65 at NFL 2013 combine and nobody there could remember a 4.7 in the past. See www.oscarsmithfootball.com. You see players the same size as those at Westfield, Lake Taylor, etc. Brown is a legal player and so are the others. Smith has + 2000 enrollments like C'Ville and doesn't recruit like some smaller schools did in the mid-1990s that triggered the big VHSL rule changes.
Our NR champ last year got crushed by Bird from the CR. Did you see how dominate and physical Bird was? Does Bird recruit, too? Do LC schools that have won so much cheat, too? Remember the ex-assistant coach at a Fairfax County school that pled guilty to 'roid distribution last year? I can give you the link if the generator on the swampland you mention has impaired your memory. Sell that land and learn some facts. Both the North and the South have teams that can play.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 07:39PM by EasternVaFan.
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> Just take a look at Oscar Smith defensive line,
> you are telling me no transfers - guess they grow
> multiple 300 lb 4.7 speed kids down there in a few
> block radius. I also have swamp land to sell you.
------
You are SO wrong about O. Smith--it doesn't have ANY DL who runs 4.7. Andrew Brown, the Alabama recruit, runs 5.06. See recruiting.scout.com. Also, the fastest 40 ever for a 300 pounder was Terron Armstesd's 4.65 at NFL 2013 combine and nobody there could remember a 4.7 in the past. See www.oscarsmithfootball.com. You see players the same size as those at Westfield, Lake Taylor, etc. Brown is a legal player and so are the others. Smith has + 2000 enrollments like C'Ville and doesn't recruit like some smaller schools did in the mid-1990s that triggered the big VHSL rule changes.
Our NR champ last year got crushed by Bird from the CR. Did you see how dominate and physical Bird was? Does Bird recruit, too? Do LC schools that have won so much cheat, too? Remember the ex-assistant coach at a Fairfax County school that pled guilty to 'roid distribution last year? I can give you the link if the generator on the swampland you mention has impaired your memory. Sell that land and learn some facts. Both the North and the South have teams that can play.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 07:39PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ramfan2014
()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:33PM
Fan Wrote:
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> Wow, I can't believe everyone is already
> anticipating a Centreville vs. Lake Braddock 6A
> North title game. If I’m not mistaken there are
> 2 games on Saturday to determine who gets to the
> championship game.
>
> Not saying Centreville and Lake Braddock don't
> have a very legitimate shot to advance but
> anything can happen. Remember, their just a bunch
> of 15-18 kids out there who can and will make
> mistakes. I think Westfield has proven over the
> past 2 post season you certainly can expect the
> unexpected.
>
> The Centreville-Stonewall Jackson game will come
> down to Stonewall’s inability to stop teams from
> scoring. Their offense can score points without a
> doubt but defense wins championships. Seen them on
> film and they just don't scare anyone from a
> defensive standpoint. Centreville is just too
> loaded on both sides of the ball, I would be
> surprised if Centreville didn’t win by at least
> 14.
>
> The Westfield-Lake Braddock game might be closer
> than most think, remember LB won the game earlier
> this year 28-24. I watched the film, Westfield
> fumbled the first LB punt and set LB up inside the
> 20 for their first score. Wide receiver for
> Westfield, #1, dropped a wide open pass in the end
> zone just before half on 3rd down, bumbled snap on
> 4th and Westfield came away with 0 points. Early
> in the 3rd with LB up 14-9 Westfield attempted a
> fake punt, failed, LB got the ball on the
> Westfield side of the 50, another short field for
> their 3rd TD. The game winning TD came with under
> 2 minutes to go, the play before looked like
> Henderson threw an INT but refs said incomplete,
> looked good on film. Westfield got the ball back
> and drove the field only to have an INT at LB's 12
> yard line with about 24 seconds or so. Also, Tyler
> Thrasher-Walker didn't play much of the 2nd half,
> he must have been injured, that’s the only
> reason why you wouldn’t have that kid on the
> field, he is a beast.
>
> I honestly think this game could go either way,
> Westfield's strength is their D, huge DL's who are
> fast and aggressive. Their LB's can hit, their
> DB's too, yes I know they gave up a big play
> against Robinson but that looked to be a blown
> coverage. Also, Westfield has a big OL as well,
> they like to pound the ball, the last few games
> they've run the wildcat with Burns(#1) as the QB,
> he will be the fastest kid on the field Saturday.
> If Westfield can establish the run Henderson’s
> opportunities could be limited, best way to beat
> LB is to keep their QB on the sideline.
>
> I just think anyone that believes the Westfield
> game will be a walk in the park for Lake Braddock
> might consider this, Westfield's only 2 losses
> were against the top 2 seeds. I would imagine they
> have a pretty decent team over there, LB might not
> want to look past them!
You are telling everyone that LB shouldnt look past Westfield, which I am sure they are not. Do you think that Centreville is looking past Stonewall?
Centreville is not as good as the "Centreville homers" on here have been hyping.
They will have problems with Stonewalls offense and this game will be much closer then Centreville thinks. If they fall behind in this one, Stone wall will put them away.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Wow, I can't believe everyone is already
> anticipating a Centreville vs. Lake Braddock 6A
> North title game. If I’m not mistaken there are
> 2 games on Saturday to determine who gets to the
> championship game.
>
> Not saying Centreville and Lake Braddock don't
> have a very legitimate shot to advance but
> anything can happen. Remember, their just a bunch
> of 15-18 kids out there who can and will make
> mistakes. I think Westfield has proven over the
> past 2 post season you certainly can expect the
> unexpected.
>
> The Centreville-Stonewall Jackson game will come
> down to Stonewall’s inability to stop teams from
> scoring. Their offense can score points without a
> doubt but defense wins championships. Seen them on
> film and they just don't scare anyone from a
> defensive standpoint. Centreville is just too
> loaded on both sides of the ball, I would be
> surprised if Centreville didn’t win by at least
> 14.
>
> The Westfield-Lake Braddock game might be closer
> than most think, remember LB won the game earlier
> this year 28-24. I watched the film, Westfield
> fumbled the first LB punt and set LB up inside the
> 20 for their first score. Wide receiver for
> Westfield, #1, dropped a wide open pass in the end
> zone just before half on 3rd down, bumbled snap on
> 4th and Westfield came away with 0 points. Early
> in the 3rd with LB up 14-9 Westfield attempted a
> fake punt, failed, LB got the ball on the
> Westfield side of the 50, another short field for
> their 3rd TD. The game winning TD came with under
> 2 minutes to go, the play before looked like
> Henderson threw an INT but refs said incomplete,
> looked good on film. Westfield got the ball back
> and drove the field only to have an INT at LB's 12
> yard line with about 24 seconds or so. Also, Tyler
> Thrasher-Walker didn't play much of the 2nd half,
> he must have been injured, that’s the only
> reason why you wouldn’t have that kid on the
> field, he is a beast.
>
> I honestly think this game could go either way,
> Westfield's strength is their D, huge DL's who are
> fast and aggressive. Their LB's can hit, their
> DB's too, yes I know they gave up a big play
> against Robinson but that looked to be a blown
> coverage. Also, Westfield has a big OL as well,
> they like to pound the ball, the last few games
> they've run the wildcat with Burns(#1) as the QB,
> he will be the fastest kid on the field Saturday.
> If Westfield can establish the run Henderson’s
> opportunities could be limited, best way to beat
> LB is to keep their QB on the sideline.
>
> I just think anyone that believes the Westfield
> game will be a walk in the park for Lake Braddock
> might consider this, Westfield's only 2 losses
> were against the top 2 seeds. I would imagine they
> have a pretty decent team over there, LB might not
> want to look past them!
You are telling everyone that LB shouldnt look past Westfield, which I am sure they are not. Do you think that Centreville is looking past Stonewall?
Centreville is not as good as the "Centreville homers" on here have been hyping.
They will have problems with Stonewalls offense and this game will be much closer then Centreville thinks. If they fall behind in this one, Stone wall will put them away.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:50PM
aghast at the news Wrote:
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> I have heard from many people (credible sources
> all of them) as well both in 703 and 757 about the
> cheating that goes on in both places but
> especially in the 757. Shameful, shameful,
> shameful.
When it comes to recruiting and transferring, you'd be right if you are describing behavior in the mid-1990s. As for recent incidents, are you referring in part to the ex-assistant here who got caught with intent to distribute 'droids 2 years ago? I hope the "credible sources" do their civic duty and report what they know.
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> I have heard from many people (credible sources
> all of them) as well both in 703 and 757 about the
> cheating that goes on in both places but
> especially in the 757. Shameful, shameful,
> shameful.
When it comes to recruiting and transferring, you'd be right if you are describing behavior in the mid-1990s. As for recent incidents, are you referring in part to the ex-assistant here who got caught with intent to distribute 'droids 2 years ago? I hope the "credible sources" do their civic duty and report what they know.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:58PM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
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> Concerned Parents, there is rampant recruiting and
> transferring and stacking of teams down in
> Tidewater area. Bunch of BS that VHSL should
> stop.
See posts above re what mythology these claims are. Concerned parents saw the NR champs of the last 2 years (Oakton and C'Ville) get crushed by teams from the CR and NR and so we have the complaints. No complaints in years this region wins, only rants against LC schools on here. "Rampant recruiting and transferring" is comical. Again, see above posts and go see how many teams in the East can play. The talent is too dispersed to support these BS claims.
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> Concerned Parents, there is rampant recruiting and
> transferring and stacking of teams down in
> Tidewater area. Bunch of BS that VHSL should
> stop.
See posts above re what mythology these claims are. Concerned parents saw the NR champs of the last 2 years (Oakton and C'Ville) get crushed by teams from the CR and NR and so we have the complaints. No complaints in years this region wins, only rants against LC schools on here. "Rampant recruiting and transferring" is comical. Again, see above posts and go see how many teams in the East can play. The talent is too dispersed to support these BS claims.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVA ONE TWO THREE
()
Date: November 27, 2013 08:49PM
Sorry Eastern VA Fan I have heard all of the same, a lot of shenanigans with transferring and building a few power teams down in 757. Not sure it can be denied at this point. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:05PM
Yeah don't talk to me about mythology. The 757 cheats.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:33PM
NOVA ONE TWO THREE Wrote:
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> Sorry Eastern VA Fan I have heard all of the same,
> a lot of shenanigans with transferring and
> building a few power teams down in 757. Not sure
> it can be denied at this point. Where there is
> smoke there is fire.
I hear you, but which teams given how many are good right now, seriously.
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> Sorry Eastern VA Fan I have heard all of the same,
> a lot of shenanigans with transferring and
> building a few power teams down in 757. Not sure
> it can be denied at this point. Where there is
> smoke there is fire.
I hear you, but which teams given how many are good right now, seriously.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:34PM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
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> Yeah don't talk to me about mythology. The 757
> cheats.
Prove it you loser
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> Yeah don't talk to me about mythology. The 757
> cheats.
Prove it you loser
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:35PM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah don't talk to me about mythology. The 757
> cheats.
Put up or shut up
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> Yeah don't talk to me about mythology. The 757
> cheats.
Put up or shut up
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:36PM
NOVA ONE TWO THREE Wrote:
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> Sorry Eastern VA Fan I have heard all of the same,
> a lot of shenanigans with transferring and
> building a few power teams down in 757. Not sure
> it can be denied at this point. Where there is
> smoke there is fire.
Where there's smoke they also elect a pope.
You can do better than that or just keep making up BS because our D1 talent here is so scarce and LC has gained on you too. Put up the info you have.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 09:37PM by EasternVaFan.
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> Sorry Eastern VA Fan I have heard all of the same,
> a lot of shenanigans with transferring and
> building a few power teams down in 757. Not sure
> it can be denied at this point. Where there is
> smoke there is fire.
Where there's smoke they also elect a pope.
You can do better than that or just keep making up BS because our D1 talent here is so scarce and LC has gained on you too. Put up the info you have.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 09:37PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:46PM
Hmmmmmmm,
My mistake. I rewrote the post and meant to say Henderson is not a great passer. I do think he is college level, but I have yet to be fully impressed. My point of reference is Nebricht, who was very good in comparison, with often great throws and runs. I also look at him in comparison to the Glennon’s and Renner from West Springfield. Just don’t think he is up to their caliber.
Sorry about the confusion.
Thanks again, KeepitReal.
Spot on, as usual. I think Henderson’s receivers are better this year than last. They are helping him considerably.
Fan,
I’m probably guilty of already looking at a LB-C’Ville game. I agree LB-Westfield is going to be a helluva game. Possibly the best game of the season. I’ve seen four Stonewall games and just am not that impressed. Just don’t seem them being able to use the same stuff against C’Ville that has worked offensively for them against other teams.
My mistake. I rewrote the post and meant to say Henderson is not a great passer. I do think he is college level, but I have yet to be fully impressed. My point of reference is Nebricht, who was very good in comparison, with often great throws and runs. I also look at him in comparison to the Glennon’s and Renner from West Springfield. Just don’t think he is up to their caliber.
Sorry about the confusion.
Thanks again, KeepitReal.
Spot on, as usual. I think Henderson’s receivers are better this year than last. They are helping him considerably.
Fan,
I’m probably guilty of already looking at a LB-C’Ville game. I agree LB-Westfield is going to be a helluva game. Possibly the best game of the season. I’ve seen four Stonewall games and just am not that impressed. Just don’t seem them being able to use the same stuff against C’Ville that has worked offensively for them against other teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
Same old complaints almost every year. These posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the beach. These people just can't face losing the grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's see what happens this year. How many FC schools are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the deck if you want to claim that about the beach or LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concerned parents
()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:48PM
I do not have a dog in this fight but must say Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is palpable.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 27, 2013 10:00PM
concerned parents Wrote:
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> I do not have a dog in this fight but must say
> Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> palpable.
I see that too but did you see his post above that nobody commented on--it's the same old thing every year. The recruiting and transferring was big in the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It just can't be that the beach has talent, too, can it? Again, people are freaked out about the sudden loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it might happen this year, too.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 10:02PM by SECEAST.
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> I do not have a dog in this fight but must say
> Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> palpable.
I see that too but did you see his post above that nobody commented on--it's the same old thing every year. The recruiting and transferring was big in the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It just can't be that the beach has talent, too, can it? Again, people are freaked out about the sudden loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it might happen this year, too.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 10:02PM by SECEAST.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 10:19PM
concerned parents Wrote:
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> I do not have a dog in this fight but must say
> Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> palpable.
If you read my posts here this season, until today they have been about FB and how good it is across the state. I grew up in the military, saw the FB in ER and found it to be good. Now I'm here and have reported finding the same thing. I've seen the complaints about LB, Henderson, LOUDOUN, private schools recruiting (Stanford's QB is from McLean but played in the WCAC), and beach teams. When you ask about it, all you get is "the 757 cheats." Only a few posters have pointed out how teams such as Westfield took down the beach teams and were just as physical, or that Bird came up here last year and won and then beat the darn beach team at UVA. My dog in this fight is for people to cite examples of cheating aside from possibly the ex-FC assistant coach who got caught with intent to distribute 'roids but nobody cheats here.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I do not have a dog in this fight but must say
> Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> palpable.
If you read my posts here this season, until today they have been about FB and how good it is across the state. I grew up in the military, saw the FB in ER and found it to be good. Now I'm here and have reported finding the same thing. I've seen the complaints about LB, Henderson, LOUDOUN, private schools recruiting (Stanford's QB is from McLean but played in the WCAC), and beach teams. When you ask about it, all you get is "the 757 cheats." Only a few posters have pointed out how teams such as Westfield took down the beach teams and were just as physical, or that Bird came up here last year and won and then beat the darn beach team at UVA. My dog in this fight is for people to cite examples of cheating aside from possibly the ex-FC assistant coach who got caught with intent to distribute 'roids but nobody cheats here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 27, 2013 10:31PM
Easternvafan and seceast:
Let the people complain. I'm on here to talk FB. Who do you have for this week's games in the North and why? I think the seeds were right and that it will be LB and C'Ville. I see LB scoring more this time around, maybe 35-24. It's had enough time to tighten the passing game and get some balance on O, too. I think C'Ville will score plenty on SJ, maybe 48-34, or worse. In D5, I hate to say it but BW is likely to go downstate That said, it's tough to beat a good team twice so the rematches including for LB could be tough.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 10:33PM by OneSBFan.
Let the people complain. I'm on here to talk FB. Who do you have for this week's games in the North and why? I think the seeds were right and that it will be LB and C'Ville. I see LB scoring more this time around, maybe 35-24. It's had enough time to tighten the passing game and get some balance on O, too. I think C'Ville will score plenty on SJ, maybe 48-34, or worse. In D5, I hate to say it but BW is likely to go downstate That said, it's tough to beat a good team twice so the rematches including for LB could be tough.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2013 10:33PM by OneSBFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Truthteller
()
Date: November 28, 2013 12:20AM
SECEAST Wrote:
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> concerned parents Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I do not have a dog in this fight but must say
> > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > palpable.
>
>
> I see that too but did you see his post above that
> nobody commented on--it's the same old thing every
> year. The recruiting and transferring was big in
> the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It just
> can't be that the beach has talent, too, can it?
> Again, people are freaked out about the sudden
> loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it might
> happen this year, too.
Every school district sets their own rules for transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it, that's just more Bullshit from the Beach. The Chesapeake school system allows kids to go to whatever school they want as long as they provide their own transportation. So of course Football players flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you think they beat every other Chesapeake school so soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar Smith. I really don't give a shit, but don't try and say they don't transfer players in with no problems. It is a lie and anyone who says different is either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
-------------------------------------------------------
> concerned parents Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I do not have a dog in this fight but must say
> > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > palpable.
>
>
> I see that too but did you see his post above that
> nobody commented on--it's the same old thing every
> year. The recruiting and transferring was big in
> the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It just
> can't be that the beach has talent, too, can it?
> Again, people are freaked out about the sudden
> loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it might
> happen this year, too.
Every school district sets their own rules for transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it, that's just more Bullshit from the Beach. The Chesapeake school system allows kids to go to whatever school they want as long as they provide their own transportation. So of course Football players flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you think they beat every other Chesapeake school so soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar Smith. I really don't give a shit, but don't try and say they don't transfer players in with no problems. It is a lie and anyone who says different is either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Matt Sturbate
()
Date: November 28, 2013 05:22AM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hmmmmmmm,
>
> My mistake. I rewrote the post and meant to say
> Henderson is not a great passer. I do think he is
> college level, but I have yet to be fully
> impressed. My point of reference is Nebricht, who
> was very good in comparison, with often great
> throws and runs. I also look at him in comparison
> to the Glennon’s and Renner from West
> Springfield. Just don’t think he is up to their
> caliber.
>
> Sorry about the confusion.
>
> Thanks again, KeepitReal.
>
> Spot on, as usual. I think Henderson’s
> receivers are better this year than last. They
> are helping him considerably.
>
> Fan,
>
> I’m probably guilty of already looking at a
> LB-C’Ville game. I agree LB-Westfield is going
> to be a helluva game. Possibly the best game of
> the season. I’ve seen four Stonewall games and
> just am not that impressed. Just don’t seem
> them being able to use the same stuff against
> C’Ville that has worked offensively for them
> against other teams.
http://www.maxpreps.com/blogs/maxwire-national-blog/HQT9q4sCyUyyg-rBHaXNYw/caleb-hendersons-incredible-touchdown-pass.htm
So, I'm not too sure Henderson isn't a great passer. Granted, this looks like its "just thrown up there" but Henderson threw this pass right after he should have been sacked. He wasn't, and was able to spot his receiver and make a *60 yard throw* to the back of the end zone. His receiver made an excellent catch, but someone had to deliver the ball 60 yards, right?
Looks like a pretty solid passer, IMHO.
Couple that with his ability to run the ball, he's an elite high school QB. Viking, when did you see him play? What games? Half of the season, the first team was pulled off the field so LB didn't get injured or run up the score. You may not have enough data points. LB has been killing it in the playoffs. Their receivers are very very solid, and their running game has been balanced with their passing game.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hmmmmmmm,
>
> My mistake. I rewrote the post and meant to say
> Henderson is not a great passer. I do think he is
> college level, but I have yet to be fully
> impressed. My point of reference is Nebricht, who
> was very good in comparison, with often great
> throws and runs. I also look at him in comparison
> to the Glennon’s and Renner from West
> Springfield. Just don’t think he is up to their
> caliber.
>
> Sorry about the confusion.
>
> Thanks again, KeepitReal.
>
> Spot on, as usual. I think Henderson’s
> receivers are better this year than last. They
> are helping him considerably.
>
> Fan,
>
> I’m probably guilty of already looking at a
> LB-C’Ville game. I agree LB-Westfield is going
> to be a helluva game. Possibly the best game of
> the season. I’ve seen four Stonewall games and
> just am not that impressed. Just don’t seem
> them being able to use the same stuff against
> C’Ville that has worked offensively for them
> against other teams.
http://www.maxpreps.com/blogs/maxwire-national-blog/HQT9q4sCyUyyg-rBHaXNYw/caleb-hendersons-incredible-touchdown-pass.htm
So, I'm not too sure Henderson isn't a great passer. Granted, this looks like its "just thrown up there" but Henderson threw this pass right after he should have been sacked. He wasn't, and was able to spot his receiver and make a *60 yard throw* to the back of the end zone. His receiver made an excellent catch, but someone had to deliver the ball 60 yards, right?
Looks like a pretty solid passer, IMHO.
Couple that with his ability to run the ball, he's an elite high school QB. Viking, when did you see him play? What games? Half of the season, the first team was pulled off the field so LB didn't get injured or run up the score. You may not have enough data points. LB has been killing it in the playoffs. Their receivers are very very solid, and their running game has been balanced with their passing game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 28, 2013 09:26AM
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by: SECEAST ()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
"Same old complaints almost every year. These posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the beach. These people just can't face losing the grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's see what happens this year. How many FC schools are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the deck if you want to claim that about the beach or LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today."
I could care less about the argument in regard to "stacking" teams either in the 757 or 703. Truth is every year you have a family that might move into another schools boundaries just so a kid can play ball. Westfield do it with both Eddie Royal and Evan Royster. Chad Wiggins was in LC if I'm not mistaken before moving to Centreville, maybe I'm wrong. Point is it happens all the time, kids who have a real shot moving to the next level, there families are willing to make those sacrifices. I don't think it's cheating, just might not be fair to the program who loses out.
SECEAST,
I've got news for you, DeMatha would crush and public high school they played, 757 or 707. Westfield has been playing the for years, Verbanic/Simmons believe the only way to judge your strengths and weaknesses is to play preseason games against top opponents. Last year Westfield also played LC Bird, this year Quince Orchard. I can also tell you DeMatha has always done well against Westfield, never been close. If you watched the game you probably saw Westfield go through 3 rotations, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd stringers against DeMatha's starters. Westfield wasn't worried about who won, they were attempting to evaluate talent.
DeMatha recruits, from everywhere, they don't have anyone on that roster who wasn't the top player from whatever high school they came from. They also don't just recruit from the DC-Metro area, all over the country. Their best RB is from Pittsburgh! No offense to Centreville but I find it laughable that in the Post top 20 coaches poll some have Centreville ranked above DeMatha, Centreville is talented but not at DeMatha's level. There are only 2 or 3 players on Centreville's roster that could potentially have a shot of making the team! So please don't use the outcome of the Westfield-Dematha scrimmage to say that 703's talent is diminishing because that's asinine!!
Posted by: SECEAST ()
Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
"Same old complaints almost every year. These posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the beach. These people just can't face losing the grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's see what happens this year. How many FC schools are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the deck if you want to claim that about the beach or LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today."
I could care less about the argument in regard to "stacking" teams either in the 757 or 703. Truth is every year you have a family that might move into another schools boundaries just so a kid can play ball. Westfield do it with both Eddie Royal and Evan Royster. Chad Wiggins was in LC if I'm not mistaken before moving to Centreville, maybe I'm wrong. Point is it happens all the time, kids who have a real shot moving to the next level, there families are willing to make those sacrifices. I don't think it's cheating, just might not be fair to the program who loses out.
SECEAST,
I've got news for you, DeMatha would crush and public high school they played, 757 or 707. Westfield has been playing the for years, Verbanic/Simmons believe the only way to judge your strengths and weaknesses is to play preseason games against top opponents. Last year Westfield also played LC Bird, this year Quince Orchard. I can also tell you DeMatha has always done well against Westfield, never been close. If you watched the game you probably saw Westfield go through 3 rotations, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd stringers against DeMatha's starters. Westfield wasn't worried about who won, they were attempting to evaluate talent.
DeMatha recruits, from everywhere, they don't have anyone on that roster who wasn't the top player from whatever high school they came from. They also don't just recruit from the DC-Metro area, all over the country. Their best RB is from Pittsburgh! No offense to Centreville but I find it laughable that in the Post top 20 coaches poll some have Centreville ranked above DeMatha, Centreville is talented but not at DeMatha's level. There are only 2 or 3 players on Centreville's roster that could potentially have a shot of making the team! So please don't use the outcome of the Westfield-Dematha scrimmage to say that 703's talent is diminishing because that's asinine!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: November 28, 2013 09:31AM
Sorry for my grammatical errors, keys too small and slow on my IPhone!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 28, 2013 10:10AM
The Truthteller Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SECEAST Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > concerned parents Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I do not have a dog in this fight but must
> say
> > > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > > palpable.
> >
> >
> > I see that too but did you see his post above
> that
> > nobody commented on--it's the same old thing
> every
> > year. The recruiting and transferring was big
> in
> > the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It just
> > can't be that the beach has talent, too, can
> it?
> > Again, people are freaked out about the sudden
> > loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it
> might
> > happen this year, too.
>
>
> Every school district sets their own rules for
> transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it, that's
> just more Bullshit from the Beach. The Chesapeake
> school system allows kids to go to whatever school
> they want as long as they provide their own
> transportation. So of course Football players
> flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you think
> they beat every other Chesapeake school so
> soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar Smith.
> I really don't give a shit, but don't try and say
> they don't transfer players in with no problems.
> It is a lie and anyone who says different is
> either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
-------------
You don't know jack. VHSL governs who plays after they move and Ocean Lakes BEAT Oscar Smith last year in playoffs to get to UVA. Another big talker who doesn't know jack.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2013 10:19AM by OneSBFan.
-------------------------------------------------------
> SECEAST Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > concerned parents Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I do not have a dog in this fight but must
> say
> > > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > > palpable.
> >
> >
> > I see that too but did you see his post above
> that
> > nobody commented on--it's the same old thing
> every
> > year. The recruiting and transferring was big
> in
> > the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It just
> > can't be that the beach has talent, too, can
> it?
> > Again, people are freaked out about the sudden
> > loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it
> might
> > happen this year, too.
>
>
> Every school district sets their own rules for
> transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it, that's
> just more Bullshit from the Beach. The Chesapeake
> school system allows kids to go to whatever school
> they want as long as they provide their own
> transportation. So of course Football players
> flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you think
> they beat every other Chesapeake school so
> soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar Smith.
> I really don't give a shit, but don't try and say
> they don't transfer players in with no problems.
> It is a lie and anyone who says different is
> either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
-------------
You don't know jack. VHSL governs who plays after they move and Ocean Lakes BEAT Oscar Smith last year in playoffs to get to UVA. Another big talker who doesn't know jack.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2013 10:19AM by OneSBFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 28, 2013 10:16AM
Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Re: Highschool Football 2013
> Posted by: SECEAST ()
> Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
>
> "Same old complaints almost every year. These
> posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they
> complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the
> beach. These people just can't face losing the
> grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's
> see what happens this year. How many FC schools
> are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the
> top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the
> deck if you want to claim that about the beach or
> LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield
> in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so
> much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry
> since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the
> mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today."
>
> I could care less about the argument in regard to
> "stacking" teams either in the 757 or 703. Truth
> is every year you have a family that might move
> into another schools boundaries just so a kid can
> play ball. Westfield do it with both Eddie Royal
> and Evan Royster. Chad Wiggins was in LC if I'm
> not mistaken before moving to Centreville, maybe
> I'm wrong. Point is it happens all the time, kids
> who have a real shot moving to the next level,
> there families are willing to make those
> sacrifices. I don't think it's cheating, just
> might not be fair to the program who loses out.
>
> SECEAST,
>
> I've got news for you, DeMatha would crush and
> public high school they played, 757 or 707.
> Westfield has been playing the for years,
> Verbanic/Simmons believe the only way to judge
> your strengths and weaknesses is to play preseason
> games against top opponents. Last year Westfield
> also played LC Bird, this year Quince Orchard. I
> can also tell you DeMatha has always done well
> against Westfield, never been close. If you
> watched the game you probably saw Westfield go
> through 3 rotations, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd stringers
> against DeMatha's starters. Westfield wasn't
> worried about who won, they were attempting to
> evaluate talent.
>
> DeMatha recruits, from everywhere, they don't have
> anyone on that roster who wasn't the top player
> from whatever high school they came from. They
> also don't just recruit from the DC-Metro area,
> all over the country. Their best RB is from
> Pittsburgh! No offense to Centreville but I find
> it laughable that in the Post top 20 coaches poll
> some have Centreville ranked above DeMatha,
> Centreville is talented but not at DeMatha's
> level. There are only 2 or 3 players on
> Centreville's roster that could potentially have a
> shot of making the team! So please don't use the
> outcome of the Westfield-Dematha scrimmage to say
> that 703's talent is diminishing because that's
> asinine!!
DeMatha would crush any 757 or 707 school? DeMatha struggled to beat now-D4 Phoebus this year in a real game, 24-20--and it was played in Hyattsville. Agree with all your other points, though; well said.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2013 10:17AM by OneSBFan.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Re: Highschool Football 2013
> Posted by: SECEAST ()
> Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
>
> "Same old complaints almost every year. These
> posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they
> complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the
> beach. These people just can't face losing the
> grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's
> see what happens this year. How many FC schools
> are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the
> top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the
> deck if you want to claim that about the beach or
> LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield
> in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so
> much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry
> since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the
> mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today."
>
> I could care less about the argument in regard to
> "stacking" teams either in the 757 or 703. Truth
> is every year you have a family that might move
> into another schools boundaries just so a kid can
> play ball. Westfield do it with both Eddie Royal
> and Evan Royster. Chad Wiggins was in LC if I'm
> not mistaken before moving to Centreville, maybe
> I'm wrong. Point is it happens all the time, kids
> who have a real shot moving to the next level,
> there families are willing to make those
> sacrifices. I don't think it's cheating, just
> might not be fair to the program who loses out.
>
> SECEAST,
>
> I've got news for you, DeMatha would crush and
> public high school they played, 757 or 707.
> Westfield has been playing the for years,
> Verbanic/Simmons believe the only way to judge
> your strengths and weaknesses is to play preseason
> games against top opponents. Last year Westfield
> also played LC Bird, this year Quince Orchard. I
> can also tell you DeMatha has always done well
> against Westfield, never been close. If you
> watched the game you probably saw Westfield go
> through 3 rotations, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd stringers
> against DeMatha's starters. Westfield wasn't
> worried about who won, they were attempting to
> evaluate talent.
>
> DeMatha recruits, from everywhere, they don't have
> anyone on that roster who wasn't the top player
> from whatever high school they came from. They
> also don't just recruit from the DC-Metro area,
> all over the country. Their best RB is from
> Pittsburgh! No offense to Centreville but I find
> it laughable that in the Post top 20 coaches poll
> some have Centreville ranked above DeMatha,
> Centreville is talented but not at DeMatha's
> level. There are only 2 or 3 players on
> Centreville's roster that could potentially have a
> shot of making the team! So please don't use the
> outcome of the Westfield-Dematha scrimmage to say
> that 703's talent is diminishing because that's
> asinine!!
DeMatha would crush any 757 or 707 school? DeMatha struggled to beat now-D4 Phoebus this year in a real game, 24-20--and it was played in Hyattsville. Agree with all your other points, though; well said.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2013 10:17AM by OneSBFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Truthteller
()
Date: November 28, 2013 11:17AM
OneSBFan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Truthteller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SECEAST Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > concerned parents Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I do not have a dog in this fight but must
> > say
> > > > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > > > palpable.
> > >
> > >
> > > I see that too but did you see his post above
> > that
> > > nobody commented on--it's the same old thing
> > every
> > > year. The recruiting and transferring was big
> > in
> > > the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It
> just
> > > can't be that the beach has talent, too, can
> > it?
> > > Again, people are freaked out about the
> sudden
> > > loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it
> > might
> > > happen this year, too.
> >
> >
> > Every school district sets their own rules for
> > transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it,
> that's
> > just more Bullshit from the Beach. The
> Chesapeake
> > school system allows kids to go to whatever
> school
> > they want as long as they provide their own
> > transportation. So of course Football players
> > flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you
> think
> > they beat every other Chesapeake school so
> > soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar
> Smith.
> > I really don't give a shit, but don't try and
> say
> > they don't transfer players in with no problems.
>
> > It is a lie and anyone who says different is
> > either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
> -------------
> You don't know jack. VHSL governs who plays after
> they move and Ocean Lakes BEAT Oscar Smith last
> year in playoffs to get to UVA. Another big talker
> who doesn't know jack.
As I said before you are either ignorant of the facts or a liar, WHICH IS IT? The VHSL has nothing to do with determining transfers within a school district. Look it up before you answer!
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Truthteller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SECEAST Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > concerned parents Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I do not have a dog in this fight but must
> > say
> > > > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > > > palpable.
> > >
> > >
> > > I see that too but did you see his post above
> > that
> > > nobody commented on--it's the same old thing
> > every
> > > year. The recruiting and transferring was big
> > in
> > > the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It
> just
> > > can't be that the beach has talent, too, can
> > it?
> > > Again, people are freaked out about the
> sudden
> > > loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it
> > might
> > > happen this year, too.
> >
> >
> > Every school district sets their own rules for
> > transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it,
> that's
> > just more Bullshit from the Beach. The
> Chesapeake
> > school system allows kids to go to whatever
> school
> > they want as long as they provide their own
> > transportation. So of course Football players
> > flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you
> think
> > they beat every other Chesapeake school so
> > soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar
> Smith.
> > I really don't give a shit, but don't try and
> say
> > they don't transfer players in with no problems.
>
> > It is a lie and anyone who says different is
> > either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
> -------------
> You don't know jack. VHSL governs who plays after
> they move and Ocean Lakes BEAT Oscar Smith last
> year in playoffs to get to UVA. Another big talker
> who doesn't know jack.
As I said before you are either ignorant of the facts or a liar, WHICH IS IT? The VHSL has nothing to do with determining transfers within a school district. Look it up before you answer!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 28, 2013 05:00PM
The Truthteller Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Truthteller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > concerned parents Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > I do not have a dog in this fight but
> must
> > > say
> > > > > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > > > > palpable.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see that too but did you see his post
> above
> > > that
> > > > nobody commented on--it's the same old
> thing
> > > every
> > > > year. The recruiting and transferring was
> big
> > > in
> > > > the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It
> > just
> > > > can't be that the beach has talent, too,
> can
> > > it?
> > > > Again, people are freaked out about the
> > sudden
> > > > loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it
> > > might
> > > > happen this year, too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Every school district sets their own rules
> for
> > > transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it,
> > that's
> > > just more Bullshit from the Beach. The
> > Chesapeake
> > > school system allows kids to go to whatever
> > school
> > > they want as long as they provide their own
> > > transportation. So of course Football players
> > > flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you
> > think
> > > they beat every other Chesapeake school so
> > > soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar
> > Smith.
> > > I really don't give a shit, but don't try and
> > say
> > > they don't transfer players in with no
> problems.
> >
> > > It is a lie and anyone who says different is
> > > either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
> > -------------
> > You don't know jack. VHSL governs who plays
> after
> > they move and Ocean Lakes BEAT Oscar Smith last
> > year in playoffs to get to UVA. Another big
> talker
> > who doesn't know jack.
>
>
> As I said before you are either ignorant of the
> facts or a liar, WHICH IS IT? The VHSL has
> nothing to do with determining transfers within a
> school district. Look it up before you answer!
--------------------
Truthteller: Read the rule book and then decide who is ignorant or lying. VHSL’s rules determines whether a student who transfers or moves is eligible to play football or any other VHSL sport. That makes every VHSL football team from the North and South subject to the same rules. See link below; reading the entire section on eligibility might help as it covers the LB move posters complained about, too. You also posted that Smith beats all the other beach schools soundly but didn’t even know that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s playoffs. Anybody who doesn’t know that can’t know much about Virginia state-wide D6 football.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-142.pdf
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Truthteller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > concerned parents Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > I do not have a dog in this fight but
> must
> > > say
> > > > > Eastern VA Fan that your defensiveness is
> > > > > palpable.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see that too but did you see his post
> above
> > > that
> > > > nobody commented on--it's the same old
> thing
> > > every
> > > > year. The recruiting and transferring was
> big
> > > in
> > > > the 1990s before the VHSL rule changes. It
> > just
> > > > can't be that the beach has talent, too,
> can
> > > it?
> > > > Again, people are freaked out about the
> > sudden
> > > > loss of power in D6 the past 2 years and it
> > > might
> > > > happen this year, too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Every school district sets their own rules
> for
> > > transfers. VHSL has nothing to do with it,
> > that's
> > > just more Bullshit from the Beach. The
> > Chesapeake
> > > school system allows kids to go to whatever
> > school
> > > they want as long as they provide their own
> > > transportation. So of course Football players
> > > flock to Oscar Smith to get seen, why do you
> > think
> > > they beat every other Chesapeake school so
> > > soundly, anyone who is a player is at Oscar
> > Smith.
> > > I really don't give a shit, but don't try and
> > say
> > > they don't transfer players in with no
> problems.
> >
> > > It is a lie and anyone who says different is
> > > either ignorant of the facts or a liar.
> > -------------
> > You don't know jack. VHSL governs who plays
> after
> > they move and Ocean Lakes BEAT Oscar Smith last
> > year in playoffs to get to UVA. Another big
> talker
> > who doesn't know jack.
>
>
> As I said before you are either ignorant of the
> facts or a liar, WHICH IS IT? The VHSL has
> nothing to do with determining transfers within a
> school district. Look it up before you answer!
--------------------
Truthteller: Read the rule book and then decide who is ignorant or lying. VHSL’s rules determines whether a student who transfers or moves is eligible to play football or any other VHSL sport. That makes every VHSL football team from the North and South subject to the same rules. See link below; reading the entire section on eligibility might help as it covers the LB move posters complained about, too. You also posted that Smith beats all the other beach schools soundly but didn’t even know that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s playoffs. Anybody who doesn’t know that can’t know much about Virginia state-wide D6 football.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-142.pdf
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 28, 2013 05:26PM
Truthteller:
You are SO wrong about which rules determine player eligibility after a move or transfer. Read VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules determine whether a student who transfers or moves is eligible to play VHSL football. Each district decides whether to allow the transfer, but not whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver provisions now specifically restrict transfers for sports. You also posted that Smith beats all the other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems like your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before the VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998 and following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1), making it perfectly clear that you are not eligible if you move or transfer unless your parent or guardian has a corresponding change in physical address.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-142.pdf
PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement (1-71)-A student who moves
from one school to another with no move on the part of his parents is ineligible. This student can become eligible immediately when his parents move to the zone served by the student’s new school."
You are SO wrong about which rules determine player eligibility after a move or transfer. Read VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules determine whether a student who transfers or moves is eligible to play VHSL football. Each district decides whether to allow the transfer, but not whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver provisions now specifically restrict transfers for sports. You also posted that Smith beats all the other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems like your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before the VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998 and following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1), making it perfectly clear that you are not eligible if you move or transfer unless your parent or guardian has a corresponding change in physical address.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-142.pdf
PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement (1-71)-A student who moves
from one school to another with no move on the part of his parents is ineligible. This student can become eligible immediately when his parents move to the zone served by the student’s new school."
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 28, 2013 06:16PM
SECEAST Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Truthteller:
>
> You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> player eligibility after a move or transfer. Read
> VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules determine
> whether a student who transfers or moves is
> eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> decides whether to allow the transfer, but not
> whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> provisions now specifically restrict transfers for
> sports. You also posted that Smith beats all the
> other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know
> that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems like
> your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before the
> VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998 and
> following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> making it perfectly clear that you are not
> eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> parent or guardian has a corresponding change in
> physical address.
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
> 42.pdf
>
> PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> (1-71)-A student who moves
> from one school to another with no move on the
> part of his parents is ineligible. This student
> can become eligible immediately when his parents
> move to the zone served by the student’s new
> school."
------------
Thanks for shutting that dude down. People used to complain about SB, too, because they could not accept that Fairfax County has to share the spotlight with its newcomers to the west. We won 7 NR D5 titles in 10 years, titled once at state and almost had another one last year had we not fumbled at the end. Westfield beat us this year for the first time in 3 tries. We are having a somewhat down year but the point is that people always complain when one school starts winning more than its share. Let's get back to talking about the next games.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Truthteller:
>
> You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> player eligibility after a move or transfer. Read
> VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules determine
> whether a student who transfers or moves is
> eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> decides whether to allow the transfer, but not
> whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> provisions now specifically restrict transfers for
> sports. You also posted that Smith beats all the
> other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know
> that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems like
> your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before the
> VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998 and
> following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> making it perfectly clear that you are not
> eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> parent or guardian has a corresponding change in
> physical address.
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
> 42.pdf
>
> PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> (1-71)-A student who moves
> from one school to another with no move on the
> part of his parents is ineligible. This student
> can become eligible immediately when his parents
> move to the zone served by the student’s new
> school."
------------
Thanks for shutting that dude down. People used to complain about SB, too, because they could not accept that Fairfax County has to share the spotlight with its newcomers to the west. We won 7 NR D5 titles in 10 years, titled once at state and almost had another one last year had we not fumbled at the end. Westfield beat us this year for the first time in 3 tries. We are having a somewhat down year but the point is that people always complain when one school starts winning more than its share. Let's get back to talking about the next games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 28, 2013 06:50PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2013 06:51PM by newgatedenizen.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2013 06:51PM by newgatedenizen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: November 28, 2013 07:56PM
Matt Sturbate,
Very impressive throw, but I’ve seen a number of others that were much less impressive. I’ve seen the Westfield, Robinson and South County games this year and the Lake Braddock-Centreville game last year on film. I think Henderson only came out for a short time in any of those games.
Fan,
I think the national polls disagree on the assessment that DeMatha would crush any Virginia high school teams. PrepNation and RivalsHigh100 have Oscar Smith, Ocean Lakes and Centreville all above DeMatha. Student Sports Fab50 has Ocean Lakes and USAToday/Massey has Oscar Smith above DeMatha. DeMatha is obviously good, but the four point game over Phoebus does not indicate the type of dominance that would lead to your conclusion. And Phoebus is not up to its usual standard.
Very impressive throw, but I’ve seen a number of others that were much less impressive. I’ve seen the Westfield, Robinson and South County games this year and the Lake Braddock-Centreville game last year on film. I think Henderson only came out for a short time in any of those games.
Fan,
I think the national polls disagree on the assessment that DeMatha would crush any Virginia high school teams. PrepNation and RivalsHigh100 have Oscar Smith, Ocean Lakes and Centreville all above DeMatha. Student Sports Fab50 has Ocean Lakes and USAToday/Massey has Oscar Smith above DeMatha. DeMatha is obviously good, but the four point game over Phoebus does not indicate the type of dominance that would lead to your conclusion. And Phoebus is not up to its usual standard.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 28, 2013 08:26PM
Let's see what happens this weekend. C'Ville probably watched film of Forest Park's 21-3 win over SJ in reg season. Forest Park also beat Varina last weekend so it has it going on right now. If Smith comes out flat, can Forest Park win?
What about the rematch between LB and Westfield. Anybody here picking the upset?
What about the rematch between LB and Westfield. Anybody here picking the upset?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football purist
()
Date: November 28, 2013 08:47PM
Wow lot of talk about all the cheating going on in VA high school football? Since when did this all start? Isn't there anything left that is close to pure?
Jeez.
Jeez.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WestfieldDad
()
Date: November 28, 2013 09:51PM
Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>> since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the
> mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today." Re: Highschool Football 2013
> Posted by: SECEAST ()
> Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
>
> "Same old complaints almost every year. These
> posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they
> complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the
> beach. These people just can't face losing the
> grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's
> see what happens this year. How many FC schools
> are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the
> top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the
> deck if you want to claim that about the beach or
> LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield
> in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so
> much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry
>
> I could care less about the argument in regard to
> "stacking" teams either in the 757 or 703. Truth
> is every year you have a family that might move
> into another schools boundaries just so a kid can
> play ball. Westfield do it with both Eddie Royal
> and Evan Royster. Chad Wiggins was in LC if I'm
> not mistaken before moving to Centreville, maybe
> I'm wrong. Point is it happens all the time, kids
> who have a real shot moving to the next level,
> there families are willing to make those
> sacrifices. I don't think it's cheating, just
> might not be fair to the program who loses out.
>
I don't know about Eddie Royal, but he might have just been redistricted to Westfield when Westfield opened.
Evan Royster was on the parent working at a school exception... His mom worked at Westfield and wanted Evan to be coached by Verbanic who'd been coach of his older brother at Fairfax. So, not a move, but Evan played out of district.
-------------------------------------------------------
>> since VHSL is on record about the cleanups for the
> mid-1999s among the smaller schools vs today." Re: Highschool Football 2013
> Posted by: SECEAST ()
> Date: November 27, 2013 09:47PM
>
> "Same old complaints almost every year. These
> posters complain about LB and HENDERSON, they
> complain about LOUDOUN programs and also the
> beach. These people just can't face losing the
> grip they had in D6 and it's fading fast. Let's
> see what happens this year. How many FC schools
> are in the WaPo top 20 any more? Just a few at the
> top--nobody else. That looks like stacking the
> deck if you want to claim that about the beach or
> LC. BTW, did you see what DeMatha did to Westield
> in the scrimmage this year? Things have changed so
> much the last few years ... Let the crybabies cry
>
> I could care less about the argument in regard to
> "stacking" teams either in the 757 or 703. Truth
> is every year you have a family that might move
> into another schools boundaries just so a kid can
> play ball. Westfield do it with both Eddie Royal
> and Evan Royster. Chad Wiggins was in LC if I'm
> not mistaken before moving to Centreville, maybe
> I'm wrong. Point is it happens all the time, kids
> who have a real shot moving to the next level,
> there families are willing to make those
> sacrifices. I don't think it's cheating, just
> might not be fair to the program who loses out.
>
I don't know about Eddie Royal, but he might have just been redistricted to Westfield when Westfield opened.
Evan Royster was on the parent working at a school exception... His mom worked at Westfield and wanted Evan to be coached by Verbanic who'd been coach of his older brother at Fairfax. So, not a move, but Evan played out of district.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 28, 2013 10:44PM
Division 5
North Stafford (-6.0) @ Massaponax
*North Stafford avenges their loss and hands Massaponax their first. Honestly I still haven't seen Massaponax and they may be the real deal, but I did see North Stafford and that team was loaded. I find it hard to believe a team beats them twice in one season.
Broad Run @ Briar Woods (-21.0)
*Still shocked Broad Run took down Stone Bridge, and actually quite disappointed. Stone Bridge was the better team and dominated Broad Run earlier in the season. A lot of people wanted to see the perenial state powers Stone Bridge and Briar Woods square off for the first time in the playoffs and going into the season I thought it would be a given. Not a huge Loudoun follower but I don't think Broad Run will play them close.
Division 6
Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
*Again at this point in the season, all these teams are good, but just going off what I saw, I like Lake Braddock winning fairly comfortably this go around.
Stonewall Jackson @ Centreville (-20.0)
*Still haven't seen SJHS, but I'm guessing SJHS has not seen a team like Centreville this year. This may be a good one, but I am picking Centreville to cruise.
North Stafford (-6.0) @ Massaponax
*North Stafford avenges their loss and hands Massaponax their first. Honestly I still haven't seen Massaponax and they may be the real deal, but I did see North Stafford and that team was loaded. I find it hard to believe a team beats them twice in one season.
Broad Run @ Briar Woods (-21.0)
*Still shocked Broad Run took down Stone Bridge, and actually quite disappointed. Stone Bridge was the better team and dominated Broad Run earlier in the season. A lot of people wanted to see the perenial state powers Stone Bridge and Briar Woods square off for the first time in the playoffs and going into the season I thought it would be a given. Not a huge Loudoun follower but I don't think Broad Run will play them close.
Division 6
Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
*Again at this point in the season, all these teams are good, but just going off what I saw, I like Lake Braddock winning fairly comfortably this go around.
Stonewall Jackson @ Centreville (-20.0)
*Still haven't seen SJHS, but I'm guessing SJHS has not seen a team like Centreville this year. This may be a good one, but I am picking Centreville to cruise.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: November 28, 2013 11:46PM
WestfieldDad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Evan Royster was on the parent working at a school
> exception... His mom worked at Westfield and
> wanted Evan to be coached by Verbanic who'd been
> coach of his older brother at Fairfax. So, not a
> move, but Evan played out of district.
And she's still teaching at Westfield. No big deal at all.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Evan Royster was on the parent working at a school
> exception... His mom worked at Westfield and
> wanted Evan to be coached by Verbanic who'd been
> coach of his older brother at Fairfax. So, not a
> move, but Evan played out of district.
And she's still teaching at Westfield. No big deal at all.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldawg
()
Date: November 29, 2013 12:00AM
You heard it here first.....Westfield WILL beat Lake Braddock on Saturday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 29, 2013 08:08AM
Bulldawg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You heard it here first.....Westfield WILL beat
> Lake Braddock on Saturday.
It's tough to beat a good team twice so you just might be right. Having seen LB twice, I think its O has good balance. I believe that this game will turn on which D makes plays in the key situations. D looms large deep in playoffs, and that starts with making 1st down a bad one for the O and not giving up many big plays.
-------------------------------------------------------
> You heard it here first.....Westfield WILL beat
> Lake Braddock on Saturday.
It's tough to beat a good team twice so you just might be right. Having seen LB twice, I think its O has good balance. I believe that this game will turn on which D makes plays in the key situations. D looms large deep in playoffs, and that starts with making 1st down a bad one for the O and not giving up many big plays.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Truthteller
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:03AM
SECEAST Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Truthteller:
>
> You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> player eligibility after a move or transfer. Read
> VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules determine
> whether a student who transfers or moves is
> eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> decides whether to allow the transfer, but not
> whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> provisions now specifically restrict transfers for
> sports. You also posted that Smith beats all the
> other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know
> that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems like
> your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before the
> VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998 and
> following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> making it perfectly clear that you are not
> eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> parent or guardian has a corresponding change in
> physical address.
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
> 42.pdf
>
> PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> (1-71)-A student who moves
> from one school to another with no move on the
> part of his parents is ineligible. This student
> can become eligible immediately when his parents
> move to the zone served by the student’s new
> school."
I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not the 3 pages of exceptions to the rule in the same book. School Districts set the rules for transfers and their eligibility, read the book again! Where it says Districts, that means School Districts, again sounds like you are just ignorant of the facts.
You are also not very observant, I said "other Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from Virginia Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again get your facts straight before you challenge the Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here again and I will slap it back in your face, AGAIN.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Truthteller:
>
> You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> player eligibility after a move or transfer. Read
> VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules determine
> whether a student who transfers or moves is
> eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> decides whether to allow the transfer, but not
> whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> provisions now specifically restrict transfers for
> sports. You also posted that Smith beats all the
> other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know
> that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems like
> your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before the
> VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998 and
> following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> making it perfectly clear that you are not
> eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> parent or guardian has a corresponding change in
> physical address.
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
> 42.pdf
>
> PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> (1-71)-A student who moves
> from one school to another with no move on the
> part of his parents is ineligible. This student
> can become eligible immediately when his parents
> move to the zone served by the student’s new
> school."
I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not the 3 pages of exceptions to the rule in the same book. School Districts set the rules for transfers and their eligibility, read the book again! Where it says Districts, that means School Districts, again sounds like you are just ignorant of the facts.
You are also not very observant, I said "other Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from Virginia Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again get your facts straight before you challenge the Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here again and I will slap it back in your face, AGAIN.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:22AM
The Truthteller Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SECEAST Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Truthteller:
> >
> > You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> > player eligibility after a move or transfer.
> Read
> > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> determine
> > whether a student who transfers or moves is
> > eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> > decides whether to allow the transfer, but not
> > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> > provisions now specifically restrict transfers
> for
> > sports. You also posted that Smith beats all
> the
> > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know
> > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> > playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems
> like
> > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before
> the
> > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998
> and
> > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> > making it perfectly clear that you are not
> > eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> > parent or guardian has a corresponding change
> in
> > physical address.
> >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> > 42.pdf
> >
> > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > from one school to another with no move on the
> > part of his parents is ineligible. This student
> > can become eligible immediately when his
> parents
> > move to the zone served by the student’s new
> > school."
>
>
> I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not the 3
> pages of exceptions to the rule in the same book.
> School Districts set the rules for transfers and
> their eligibility, read the book again! Where it
> says Districts, that means School Districts, again
> sounds like you are just ignorant of the facts.
>
> You are also not very observant, I said "other
> Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from Virginia
> Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again get
> your facts straight before you challenge the
> Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here
> again and I will slap it back in your face, AGAIN.
---------------------
Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be some kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he cited and his post is accurate about transfers. You got caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS. You haven't cited any examples of illegal transfers anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is stuck in the 1990s before the rule changes. My school played the ER teams most years and we did ok--and you don't hear us crying like you are. Man up, let people play FB and shut up unless you can cite ONE example. That's how all this started--your BS that you can't back up about people cheating.
-------------------------------------------------------
> SECEAST Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Truthteller:
> >
> > You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> > player eligibility after a move or transfer.
> Read
> > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> determine
> > whether a student who transfers or moves is
> > eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> > decides whether to allow the transfer, but not
> > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> > provisions now specifically restrict transfers
> for
> > sports. You also posted that Smith beats all
> the
> > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t know
> > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> > playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems
> like
> > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before
> the
> > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998
> and
> > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> > making it perfectly clear that you are not
> > eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> > parent or guardian has a corresponding change
> in
> > physical address.
> >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> > 42.pdf
> >
> > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > from one school to another with no move on the
> > part of his parents is ineligible. This student
> > can become eligible immediately when his
> parents
> > move to the zone served by the student’s new
> > school."
>
>
> I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not the 3
> pages of exceptions to the rule in the same book.
> School Districts set the rules for transfers and
> their eligibility, read the book again! Where it
> says Districts, that means School Districts, again
> sounds like you are just ignorant of the facts.
>
> You are also not very observant, I said "other
> Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from Virginia
> Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again get
> your facts straight before you challenge the
> Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here
> again and I will slap it back in your face, AGAIN.
---------------------
Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be some kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he cited and his post is accurate about transfers. You got caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS. You haven't cited any examples of illegal transfers anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is stuck in the 1990s before the rule changes. My school played the ER teams most years and we did ok--and you don't hear us crying like you are. Man up, let people play FB and shut up unless you can cite ONE example. That's how all this started--your BS that you can't back up about people cheating.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:40AM
Truthteller: Everybody knows that Smith dominates Chesapeake -- but your earlier posts also alleged cheating at the beach, too. Like OneSBFan posted, read all of the rules and then cite ONE example of a transfer that was illegal or otherwise makes your point. You haven't because you can't since the big cleanup 10 years ago. Your BS is so weak--maybe you should learn more about O. SMITH's tough offseason training program and how VHSL looked at it a few years but decided not to make rule changes to restrict it. That school has had a tough time lately, including with one of its JV players passing away at practice last year. The players work hard and you do them all a disservice with your BS. Some are there because their parents serve in the military. You dishonor them all with your vague allegations of cheating. What a low life...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
idiots!
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:59AM
Hopefully, you people will find something more productive to do instead of watching a bunch of niggers run up and down a field all day long.
Somehow, I doubt it!
Somehow, I doubt it!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Truthteller
()
Date: November 29, 2013 11:46AM
OneSBFan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Truthteller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SECEAST Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Truthteller:
> > >
> > > You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> > > player eligibility after a move or transfer.
> > Read
> > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > determine
> > > whether a student who transfers or moves is
> > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> > > decides whether to allow the transfer, but
> not
> > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> > > provisions now specifically restrict
> transfers
> > for
> > > sports. You also posted that Smith beats all
> > the
> > > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t
> know
> > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> > > playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems
> > like
> > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before
> > the
> > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998
> > and
> > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> > > making it perfectly clear that you are not
> > > eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> > > parent or guardian has a corresponding change
> > in
> > > physical address.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > > 42.pdf
> > >
> > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > from one school to another with no move on
> the
> > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> student
> > > can become eligible immediately when his
> > parents
> > > move to the zone served by the student’s
> new
> > > school."
> >
> >
> > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not the
> 3
> > pages of exceptions to the rule in the same
> book.
> > School Districts set the rules for transfers
> and
> > their eligibility, read the book again! Where
> it
> > says Districts, that means School Districts,
> again
> > sounds like you are just ignorant of the facts.
>
> >
> > You are also not very observant, I said "other
> > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> Virginia
> > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again
> get
> > your facts straight before you challenge the
> > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here
> > again and I will slap it back in your face,
> AGAIN.
>
> ---------------------
> Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be some
> kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he cited
> and his post is accurate about transfers. You got
> caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS. You
> haven't cited any examples of illegal transfers
> anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is stuck in
> the 1990s before the rule changes. My school
> played the ER teams most years and we did ok--and
> you don't hear us crying like you are. Man up, let
> people play FB and shut up unless you can cite ONE
> example. That's how all this started--your BS that
> you can't back up about people cheating.
You know I was going to give you guys the benefit of doubt that you were just ignorant of the facts, BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass shit, trying to call out the Truthteller! You are obviously just liars! who are now trying to bring pity into play with some Bullshit about kids of military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
See the below quoted directly from the VHSL handbook. These are just a few of the exceptions to the Transfer rule! There are pages and pages of exceptions where someone can work to exempt the limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule. You continue to get abused with your own rulebook, I feel like the older brother holding your hand and hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you with "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
LOL!! PATHETIC
(7) A school board or division superintendent may transfer a student, by name,
within the school division without affecting that student’s eligibility by specifically granting a waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such waivers should be considered for the welfare of the student and/or school system and not for athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master Eligibility List of all teams which have students who have been so waived shall reference the
specific school board minutes or written documentation granting the waiver
(5) A student entering the eighth grade for the first time becomes immediately eligible in the high school in which he/she enrolls regardless of his or her residence status. A student entering the ninth grade for the first time becomes immediately eligible in the high school in which he/she enrolls regardless of his or her residence status.
(1) A student shall become eligible for interscholastic competition after he/she has been enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive calendar days. Exception: If a student transfers during the summer and remains ineligible for the entire subsequent school year, he/she would become eligible beginning with the fall season of the following academic year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Truthteller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SECEAST Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Truthteller:
> > >
> > > You are SO wrong about which rules determine
> > > player eligibility after a move or transfer.
> > Read
> > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > determine
> > > whether a student who transfers or moves is
> > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each district
> > > decides whether to allow the transfer, but
> not
> > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's waiver
> > > provisions now specifically restrict
> transfers
> > for
> > > sports. You also posted that Smith beats all
> > the
> > > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t
> know
> > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last year’s
> > > playoffs. How could you not know that? Seems
> > like
> > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s before
> > the
> > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in 1998
> > and
> > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and 28-7-1(1),
> > > making it perfectly clear that you are not
> > > eligible if you move or transfer unless your
> > > parent or guardian has a corresponding change
> > in
> > > physical address.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > > 42.pdf
> > >
> > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move Requirement
> > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > from one school to another with no move on
> the
> > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> student
> > > can become eligible immediately when his
> > parents
> > > move to the zone served by the student’s
> new
> > > school."
> >
> >
> > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not the
> 3
> > pages of exceptions to the rule in the same
> book.
> > School Districts set the rules for transfers
> and
> > their eligibility, read the book again! Where
> it
> > says Districts, that means School Districts,
> again
> > sounds like you are just ignorant of the facts.
>
> >
> > You are also not very observant, I said "other
> > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> Virginia
> > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again
> get
> > your facts straight before you challenge the
> > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here
> > again and I will slap it back in your face,
> AGAIN.
>
> ---------------------
> Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be some
> kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he cited
> and his post is accurate about transfers. You got
> caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS. You
> haven't cited any examples of illegal transfers
> anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is stuck in
> the 1990s before the rule changes. My school
> played the ER teams most years and we did ok--and
> you don't hear us crying like you are. Man up, let
> people play FB and shut up unless you can cite ONE
> example. That's how all this started--your BS that
> you can't back up about people cheating.
You know I was going to give you guys the benefit of doubt that you were just ignorant of the facts, BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass shit, trying to call out the Truthteller! You are obviously just liars! who are now trying to bring pity into play with some Bullshit about kids of military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
See the below quoted directly from the VHSL handbook. These are just a few of the exceptions to the Transfer rule! There are pages and pages of exceptions where someone can work to exempt the limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule. You continue to get abused with your own rulebook, I feel like the older brother holding your hand and hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you with "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
LOL!! PATHETIC
(7) A school board or division superintendent may transfer a student, by name,
within the school division without affecting that student’s eligibility by specifically granting a waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such waivers should be considered for the welfare of the student and/or school system and not for athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master Eligibility List of all teams which have students who have been so waived shall reference the
specific school board minutes or written documentation granting the waiver
(5) A student entering the eighth grade for the first time becomes immediately eligible in the high school in which he/she enrolls regardless of his or her residence status. A student entering the ninth grade for the first time becomes immediately eligible in the high school in which he/she enrolls regardless of his or her residence status.
(1) A student shall become eligible for interscholastic competition after he/she has been enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive calendar days. Exception: If a student transfers during the summer and remains ineligible for the entire subsequent school year, he/she would become eligible beginning with the fall season of the following academic year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: November 29, 2013 12:05PM
“Truthteller,” your posts include some key errors, as other posters have noted. Here are 2 other examples, both of which affect the credibility of your assertions that the schools in question have unfair advantage and that VHSL does not determine who is eligible to play:
1) You post that the districts themselves decide the eligibility of tranfsers and move-ins to play football. That is WRONG. See page 11 of the “Chesapeake Public Schools Athletic Handbook for High School Athletes and Parents, 2013-2014 edition:
“All participants in VHSL-sanctioned activities must meet individual eligibility requirements in Section 28 of the Virginia High School League Inc. Handbook. “
http://www.cpschools.com/departments/student_services/athletichandbook_highschool2013.pdf
You have the link to rule 28. Every district allows transfers, including for programs such as Smith’s IB—just like we have here. With the big Capital Improvement Program (CIP) in place for schools down there, the district is re-zoning, shuffling students around, and grouping students to reduce costs and better use existing classroom space. Gone are the days of liberal transfers. This info has been reported for a few years now. Google and www.cpschools.com probably have more on CIP if you are interested.
2) You also post that the “Chesapeake school system allows kids to go to any school as long as they provide their own transportation. That is not true. In fact, the district has a form people can use to report -of-zone students? Here’s the link:
http://www.cpschools.com/departments/student_services/report_outofzone.php.
Furthermore, here’s a quote from the district’s handbook, including its statement that falsification is a crime: “Chesapeake students are expected to attend the schools zoned for their residence.”
Then the handbook continues with this warning:
Ҥ22.1-264.1; Misdemeanor to make false statements as to school division
or attendance zone residency; penalty:
Any person who knowingly makes a false statement concerning the residency of a child,
as determined by §22.1-3, in particular school division or school attendance zone, for the
purpose of (i) avoiding the tuition charges authorized by §221-5 or (ii) enrollment in a
school outside the attendance zone in which the student resides, shall be guilty of a Class
4 misdemeanor. “
http://www.cpschools.com/departments/student_services/enrollment_packet/Page%2002%20CHESAPEAKE%20PUBLIC%20SCHOOLS%20ENROLLMENT%20INFORMATI0N%20-2012.pdf.
Sports-related transfers have been severely restricted with the VHSL changes to rule 28, including that sports can’t be a factor in the transfer if the player is to remain eligible to play sports such as FB. I “get” that your points about transfers had merit in the 1990s but it’s been cleaned up considerably since then. If you research Smith’s off-season workouts, you’ll see that schools here aren’t the only ones whose players work hard.
1) You post that the districts themselves decide the eligibility of tranfsers and move-ins to play football. That is WRONG. See page 11 of the “Chesapeake Public Schools Athletic Handbook for High School Athletes and Parents, 2013-2014 edition:
“All participants in VHSL-sanctioned activities must meet individual eligibility requirements in Section 28 of the Virginia High School League Inc. Handbook. “
http://www.cpschools.com/departments/student_services/athletichandbook_highschool2013.pdf
You have the link to rule 28. Every district allows transfers, including for programs such as Smith’s IB—just like we have here. With the big Capital Improvement Program (CIP) in place for schools down there, the district is re-zoning, shuffling students around, and grouping students to reduce costs and better use existing classroom space. Gone are the days of liberal transfers. This info has been reported for a few years now. Google and www.cpschools.com probably have more on CIP if you are interested.
2) You also post that the “Chesapeake school system allows kids to go to any school as long as they provide their own transportation. That is not true. In fact, the district has a form people can use to report -of-zone students? Here’s the link:
http://www.cpschools.com/departments/student_services/report_outofzone.php.
Furthermore, here’s a quote from the district’s handbook, including its statement that falsification is a crime: “Chesapeake students are expected to attend the schools zoned for their residence.”
Then the handbook continues with this warning:
Ҥ22.1-264.1; Misdemeanor to make false statements as to school division
or attendance zone residency; penalty:
Any person who knowingly makes a false statement concerning the residency of a child,
as determined by §22.1-3, in particular school division or school attendance zone, for the
purpose of (i) avoiding the tuition charges authorized by §221-5 or (ii) enrollment in a
school outside the attendance zone in which the student resides, shall be guilty of a Class
4 misdemeanor. “
http://www.cpschools.com/departments/student_services/enrollment_packet/Page%2002%20CHESAPEAKE%20PUBLIC%20SCHOOLS%20ENROLLMENT%20INFORMATI0N%20-2012.pdf.
Sports-related transfers have been severely restricted with the VHSL changes to rule 28, including that sports can’t be a factor in the transfer if the player is to remain eligible to play sports such as FB. I “get” that your points about transfers had merit in the 1990s but it’s been cleaned up considerably since then. If you research Smith’s off-season workouts, you’ll see that schools here aren’t the only ones whose players work hard.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 29, 2013 12:09PM
The Truthteller Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Truthteller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Truthteller:
> > > >
> > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> determine
> > > > player eligibility after a move or
> transfer.
> > > Read
> > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > determine
> > > > whether a student who transfers or moves is
> > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> district
> > > > decides whether to allow the transfer, but
> > not
> > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> waiver
> > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > transfers
> > > for
> > > > sports. You also posted that Smith beats
> all
> > > the
> > > > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t
> > know
> > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> year’s
> > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> Seems
> > > like
> > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> before
> > > the
> > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in
> 1998
> > > and
> > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> 28-7-1(1),
> > > > making it perfectly clear that you are not
> > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> your
> > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> change
> > > in
> > > > physical address.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > >
> > > > 42.pdf
> > > >
> > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> Requirement
> > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > from one school to another with no move on
> > the
> > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > student
> > > > can become eligible immediately when his
> > > parents
> > > > move to the zone served by the student’s
> > new
> > > > school."
> > >
> > >
> > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not
> the
> > 3
> > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the same
> > book.
> > > School Districts set the rules for transfers
> > and
> > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> Where
> > it
> > > says Districts, that means School Districts,
> > again
> > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> facts.
> >
> > >
> > > You are also not very observant, I said
> "other
> > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > Virginia
> > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again
> > get
> > > your facts straight before you challenge the
> > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here
> > > again and I will slap it back in your face,
> > AGAIN.
> >
> > ---------------------
> > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be
> some
> > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he cited
> > and his post is accurate about transfers. You
> got
> > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS.
> You
> > haven't cited any examples of illegal transfers
> > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is stuck
> in
> > the 1990s before the rule changes. My school
> > played the ER teams most years and we did
> ok--and
> > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man up,
> let
> > people play FB and shut up unless you can cite
> ONE
> > example. That's how all this started--your BS
> that
> > you can't back up about people cheating.
>
>
>
> You know I was going to give you guys the benefit
> of doubt that you were just ignorant of the facts,
> BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass shit,
> trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> obviously just liars! who are now trying to bring
> pity into play with some Bullshit about kids of
> military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
>
> See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> handbook. These are just a few of the exceptions
> to the Transfer rule! There are pages and pages
> of exceptions where someone can work to exempt the
> limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule. You
> continue to get abused with your own rulebook, I
> feel like the older brother holding your hand and
> hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you with
> "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
>
>
> LOL!! PATHETIC
>
>
>
> (7) A school board or division superintendent may
> transfer a student, by name,
> within the school division without affecting that
> student’s eligibility by specifically granting a
> waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> waivers should be considered for the welfare of
> the student and/or school system and not for
> athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> Eligibility List of all teams which have students
> who have been so waived shall reference the
> specific school board minutes or written
> documentation granting the waiver
>
> (5) A student entering the eighth grade for the
> first time becomes immediately eligible in the
> high school in which he/she enrolls regardless of
> his or her residence status. A student entering
> the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> immediately eligible in the high school in which
> he/she enrolls regardless of his or her residence
> status.
>
>
> (1) A student shall become eligible for
> interscholastic competition after he/she has been
> enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> calendar days. Exception: If a student transfers
> during the summer and remains ineligible for the
> entire subsequent school year, he/she would become
> eligible beginning with the fall season of the
> following academic year.
--------------------
Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity" purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're already making excuses for why you don't think whatever team is yours might lose. Every team that has made it this far can play.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2013 12:16PM by OneSBFan.
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Truthteller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Truthteller:
> > > >
> > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> determine
> > > > player eligibility after a move or
> transfer.
> > > Read
> > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > determine
> > > > whether a student who transfers or moves is
> > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> district
> > > > decides whether to allow the transfer, but
> > not
> > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> waiver
> > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > transfers
> > > for
> > > > sports. You also posted that Smith beats
> all
> > > the
> > > > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t
> > know
> > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> year’s
> > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> Seems
> > > like
> > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> before
> > > the
> > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in
> 1998
> > > and
> > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> 28-7-1(1),
> > > > making it perfectly clear that you are not
> > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> your
> > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> change
> > > in
> > > > physical address.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > >
> > > > 42.pdf
> > > >
> > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> Requirement
> > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > from one school to another with no move on
> > the
> > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > student
> > > > can become eligible immediately when his
> > > parents
> > > > move to the zone served by the student’s
> > new
> > > > school."
> > >
> > >
> > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not
> the
> > 3
> > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the same
> > book.
> > > School Districts set the rules for transfers
> > and
> > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> Where
> > it
> > > says Districts, that means School Districts,
> > again
> > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> facts.
> >
> > >
> > > You are also not very observant, I said
> "other
> > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > Virginia
> > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake, again
> > get
> > > your facts straight before you challenge the
> > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in here
> > > again and I will slap it back in your face,
> > AGAIN.
> >
> > ---------------------
> > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be
> some
> > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he cited
> > and his post is accurate about transfers. You
> got
> > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS.
> You
> > haven't cited any examples of illegal transfers
> > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is stuck
> in
> > the 1990s before the rule changes. My school
> > played the ER teams most years and we did
> ok--and
> > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man up,
> let
> > people play FB and shut up unless you can cite
> ONE
> > example. That's how all this started--your BS
> that
> > you can't back up about people cheating.
>
>
>
> You know I was going to give you guys the benefit
> of doubt that you were just ignorant of the facts,
> BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass shit,
> trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> obviously just liars! who are now trying to bring
> pity into play with some Bullshit about kids of
> military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
>
> See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> handbook. These are just a few of the exceptions
> to the Transfer rule! There are pages and pages
> of exceptions where someone can work to exempt the
> limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule. You
> continue to get abused with your own rulebook, I
> feel like the older brother holding your hand and
> hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you with
> "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
>
>
> LOL!! PATHETIC
>
>
>
> (7) A school board or division superintendent may
> transfer a student, by name,
> within the school division without affecting that
> student’s eligibility by specifically granting a
> waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> waivers should be considered for the welfare of
> the student and/or school system and not for
> athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> Eligibility List of all teams which have students
> who have been so waived shall reference the
> specific school board minutes or written
> documentation granting the waiver
>
> (5) A student entering the eighth grade for the
> first time becomes immediately eligible in the
> high school in which he/she enrolls regardless of
> his or her residence status. A student entering
> the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> immediately eligible in the high school in which
> he/she enrolls regardless of his or her residence
> status.
>
>
> (1) A student shall become eligible for
> interscholastic competition after he/she has been
> enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> calendar days. Exception: If a student transfers
> during the summer and remains ineligible for the
> entire subsequent school year, he/she would become
> eligible beginning with the fall season of the
> following academic year.
--------------------
Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity" purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're already making excuses for why you don't think whatever team is yours might lose. Every team that has made it this far can play.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2013 12:16PM by OneSBFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde longtime
()
Date: November 29, 2013 12:28PM
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:58PM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Concerned Parents, there is rampant recruiting and
> transferring and stacking of teams down in
> Tidewater area. Bunch of BS that VHSL should
> stop.
[See posts above re what mythology these claims are. Concerned parents saw the NR champs of the last 2 years (Oakton and C'Ville) get crushed by teams from the CR and NR and so we have the complaints. No complaints in years this region wins, only rants against LC schools on here. "Rampant recruiting and transferring" is comical. Again, see above posts and go see how many teams in the East can play. The talent is too dispersed to support these BS claims.]
As an Oakton fan, we had no problem with LC Bird last year. They beat us fair and square, and if we played them 10 times, we would have been lucky to win once. They were bigger and stronger, and if we had Chris Durant (our all-State left tackle) playing in the game (he hurt his knee against WF in the Northern Region final), perhaps we could have had one more score. Either way, the result would have been the same.
Our beef with LC, and I suspect it's the same with the Beach teams in the ER, is they talked a lot of trash (called the majority-white Oakton team a bunch of "crackers" and referred to several linemen as "bleach"), and were essentially a bunch of cheap shot artists - crack back blocks, hits below the knees, late hits, helmet to helmet hits, etc. Not sure if the LC players were coached to do that, or if they did that on their own, but suffice to say, it was difficult to watch. The NR teams (perhaps with a few exceptions) just don't resort to such tactics.
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:58PM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Concerned Parents, there is rampant recruiting and
> transferring and stacking of teams down in
> Tidewater area. Bunch of BS that VHSL should
> stop.
[See posts above re what mythology these claims are. Concerned parents saw the NR champs of the last 2 years (Oakton and C'Ville) get crushed by teams from the CR and NR and so we have the complaints. No complaints in years this region wins, only rants against LC schools on here. "Rampant recruiting and transferring" is comical. Again, see above posts and go see how many teams in the East can play. The talent is too dispersed to support these BS claims.]
As an Oakton fan, we had no problem with LC Bird last year. They beat us fair and square, and if we played them 10 times, we would have been lucky to win once. They were bigger and stronger, and if we had Chris Durant (our all-State left tackle) playing in the game (he hurt his knee against WF in the Northern Region final), perhaps we could have had one more score. Either way, the result would have been the same.
Our beef with LC, and I suspect it's the same with the Beach teams in the ER, is they talked a lot of trash (called the majority-white Oakton team a bunch of "crackers" and referred to several linemen as "bleach"), and were essentially a bunch of cheap shot artists - crack back blocks, hits below the knees, late hits, helmet to helmet hits, etc. Not sure if the LC players were coached to do that, or if they did that on their own, but suffice to say, it was difficult to watch. The NR teams (perhaps with a few exceptions) just don't resort to such tactics.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jim Greek
()
Date: November 29, 2013 01:23PM
I wonder how many white people will fall victim to the "knockout game" while these games are occurring?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Truthteller
()
Date: November 29, 2013 02:10PM
OneSBFan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Truthteller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OneSBFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Truthteller Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Truthteller:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> > determine
> > > > > player eligibility after a move or
> > transfer.
> > > > Read
> > > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > > determine
> > > > > whether a student who transfers or moves
> is
> > > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> > district
> > > > > decides whether to allow the transfer,
> but
> > > not
> > > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> > waiver
> > > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > > transfers
> > > > for
> > > > > sports. You also posted that Smith beats
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t
> > > know
> > > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> > year’s
> > > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> > Seems
> > > > like
> > > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> > before
> > > > the
> > > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in
> > 1998
> > > > and
> > > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> > 28-7-1(1),
> > > > > making it perfectly clear that you are
> not
> > > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> > your
> > > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> > change
> > > > in
> > > > > physical address.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > 42.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> > Requirement
> > > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > > from one school to another with no move
> on
> > > the
> > > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > > student
> > > > > can become eligible immediately when his
> > > > parents
> > > > > move to the zone served by the
> student’s
> > > new
> > > > > school."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not
> > the
> > > 3
> > > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the same
> > > book.
> > > > School Districts set the rules for
> transfers
> > > and
> > > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> > Where
> > > it
> > > > says Districts, that means School
> Districts,
> > > again
> > > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> > facts.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You are also not very observant, I said
> > "other
> > > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > > Virginia
> > > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake,
> again
> > > get
> > > > your facts straight before you challenge
> the
> > > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in
> here
> > > > again and I will slap it back in your face,
> > > AGAIN.
> > >
> > > ---------------------
> > > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be
> > some
> > > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he
> cited
> > > and his post is accurate about transfers. You
> > got
> > > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS.
> > You
> > > haven't cited any examples of illegal
> transfers
> > > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is
> stuck
> > in
> > > the 1990s before the rule changes. My school
> > > played the ER teams most years and we did
> > ok--and
> > > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man
> up,
> > let
> > > people play FB and shut up unless you can
> cite
> > ONE
> > > example. That's how all this started--your BS
> > that
> > > you can't back up about people cheating.
> >
> >
> >
> > You know I was going to give you guys the
> benefit
> > of doubt that you were just ignorant of the
> facts,
> > BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass
> shit,
> > trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> > obviously just liars! who are now trying to
> bring
> > pity into play with some Bullshit about kids of
> > military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
> >
> > See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> > handbook. These are just a few of the
> exceptions
> > to the Transfer rule! There are pages and
> pages
> > of exceptions where someone can work to exempt
> the
> > limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule.
> You
> > continue to get abused with your own rulebook,
> I
> > feel like the older brother holding your hand
> and
> > hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you
> with
> > "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
>
> >
> >
> > LOL!! PATHETIC
> >
> >
> >
> > (7) A school board or division superintendent
> may
> > transfer a student, by name,
> > within the school division without affecting
> that
> > student’s eligibility by specifically granting
> a
> > waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> > waivers should be considered for the welfare of
> > the student and/or school system and not for
> > athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> > Eligibility List of all teams which have
> students
> > who have been so waived shall reference the
> > specific school board minutes or written
> > documentation granting the waiver
> >
> > (5) A student entering the eighth grade for the
> > first time becomes immediately eligible in the
> > high school in which he/she enrolls regardless
> of
> > his or her residence status. A student entering
> > the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> > immediately eligible in the high school in
> which
> > he/she enrolls regardless of his or her
> residence
> > status.
> >
> >
> > (1) A student shall become eligible for
> > interscholastic competition after he/she has
> been
> > enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> > calendar days. Exception: If a student
> transfers
> > during the summer and remains ineligible for
> the
> > entire subsequent school year, he/she would
> become
> > eligible beginning with the fall season of the
> > following academic year.
>
> --------------------
>
> Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the
> waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity"
> purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates
> back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're
> already making excuses for why you don't think
> whatever team is yours might lose. Every team that
> has made it this far can play.
CMON MAN! Do you read before you post? I told you I do not give a shit who wins (re read my original post), I am just here to tell the truth about these "transfers". I quoted directly from the VHSL rule book that you referenced. If you have a problem with the references refresh your handbook.
Are you serious about referring back to the "athletic and/or activity" as a deterrent to having a transfer! OH YEA! my son wants to come to Smith because he really wants to attend this better school and OH by the way, he is a pretty good football player. Get serious!
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Truthteller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OneSBFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Truthteller Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Truthteller:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> > determine
> > > > > player eligibility after a move or
> > transfer.
> > > > Read
> > > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > > determine
> > > > > whether a student who transfers or moves
> is
> > > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> > district
> > > > > decides whether to allow the transfer,
> but
> > > not
> > > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> > waiver
> > > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > > transfers
> > > > for
> > > > > sports. You also posted that Smith beats
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > other beach schools soundly, but didn’t
> > > know
> > > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> > year’s
> > > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> > Seems
> > > > like
> > > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> > before
> > > > the
> > > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting in
> > 1998
> > > > and
> > > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> > 28-7-1(1),
> > > > > making it perfectly clear that you are
> not
> > > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> > your
> > > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> > change
> > > > in
> > > > > physical address.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > 42.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> > Requirement
> > > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > > from one school to another with no move
> on
> > > the
> > > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > > student
> > > > > can become eligible immediately when his
> > > > parents
> > > > > move to the zone served by the
> student’s
> > > new
> > > > > school."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT not
> > the
> > > 3
> > > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the same
> > > book.
> > > > School Districts set the rules for
> transfers
> > > and
> > > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> > Where
> > > it
> > > > says Districts, that means School
> Districts,
> > > again
> > > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> > facts.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You are also not very observant, I said
> > "other
> > > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > > Virginia
> > > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake,
> again
> > > get
> > > > your facts straight before you challenge
> the
> > > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in
> here
> > > > again and I will slap it back in your face,
> > > AGAIN.
> > >
> > > ---------------------
> > > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must be
> > some
> > > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he
> cited
> > > and his post is accurate about transfers. You
> > got
> > > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated BS.
> > You
> > > haven't cited any examples of illegal
> transfers
> > > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is
> stuck
> > in
> > > the 1990s before the rule changes. My school
> > > played the ER teams most years and we did
> > ok--and
> > > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man
> up,
> > let
> > > people play FB and shut up unless you can
> cite
> > ONE
> > > example. That's how all this started--your BS
> > that
> > > you can't back up about people cheating.
> >
> >
> >
> > You know I was going to give you guys the
> benefit
> > of doubt that you were just ignorant of the
> facts,
> > BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass
> shit,
> > trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> > obviously just liars! who are now trying to
> bring
> > pity into play with some Bullshit about kids of
> > military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
> >
> > See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> > handbook. These are just a few of the
> exceptions
> > to the Transfer rule! There are pages and
> pages
> > of exceptions where someone can work to exempt
> the
> > limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule.
> You
> > continue to get abused with your own rulebook,
> I
> > feel like the older brother holding your hand
> and
> > hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you
> with
> > "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
>
> >
> >
> > LOL!! PATHETIC
> >
> >
> >
> > (7) A school board or division superintendent
> may
> > transfer a student, by name,
> > within the school division without affecting
> that
> > student’s eligibility by specifically granting
> a
> > waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> > waivers should be considered for the welfare of
> > the student and/or school system and not for
> > athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> > Eligibility List of all teams which have
> students
> > who have been so waived shall reference the
> > specific school board minutes or written
> > documentation granting the waiver
> >
> > (5) A student entering the eighth grade for the
> > first time becomes immediately eligible in the
> > high school in which he/she enrolls regardless
> of
> > his or her residence status. A student entering
> > the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> > immediately eligible in the high school in
> which
> > he/she enrolls regardless of his or her
> residence
> > status.
> >
> >
> > (1) A student shall become eligible for
> > interscholastic competition after he/she has
> been
> > enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> > calendar days. Exception: If a student
> transfers
> > during the summer and remains ineligible for
> the
> > entire subsequent school year, he/she would
> become
> > eligible beginning with the fall season of the
> > following academic year.
>
> --------------------
>
> Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the
> waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity"
> purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates
> back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're
> already making excuses for why you don't think
> whatever team is yours might lose. Every team that
> has made it this far can play.
CMON MAN! Do you read before you post? I told you I do not give a shit who wins (re read my original post), I am just here to tell the truth about these "transfers". I quoted directly from the VHSL rule book that you referenced. If you have a problem with the references refresh your handbook.
Are you serious about referring back to the "athletic and/or activity" as a deterrent to having a transfer! OH YEA! my son wants to come to Smith because he really wants to attend this better school and OH by the way, he is a pretty good football player. Get serious!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: November 29, 2013 03:00PM
The Truthteller Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Truthteller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > OneSBFan Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The Truthteller Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Truthteller:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> > > determine
> > > > > > player eligibility after a move or
> > > transfer.
> > > > > Read
> > > > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > > > determine
> > > > > > whether a student who transfers or
> moves
> > is
> > > > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> > > district
> > > > > > decides whether to allow the transfer,
> > but
> > > > not
> > > > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> > > waiver
> > > > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > > > transfers
> > > > > for
> > > > > > sports. You also posted that Smith
> beats
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > other beach schools soundly, but
> didn’t
> > > > know
> > > > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> > > year’s
> > > > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> > > Seems
> > > > > like
> > > > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> > > before
> > > > > the
> > > > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting
> in
> > > 1998
> > > > > and
> > > > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> > > 28-7-1(1),
> > > > > > making it perfectly clear that you are
> > not
> > > > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> > > your
> > > > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> > > change
> > > > > in
> > > > > > physical address.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 42.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> > > Requirement
> > > > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > > > from one school to another with no move
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > > > student
> > > > > > can become eligible immediately when
> his
> > > > > parents
> > > > > > move to the zone served by the
> > student’s
> > > > new
> > > > > > school."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT
> not
> > > the
> > > > 3
> > > > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the
> same
> > > > book.
> > > > > School Districts set the rules for
> > transfers
> > > > and
> > > > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> > > Where
> > > > it
> > > > > says Districts, that means School
> > Districts,
> > > > again
> > > > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> > > facts.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are also not very observant, I said
> > > "other
> > > > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > > > Virginia
> > > > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake,
> > again
> > > > get
> > > > > your facts straight before you challenge
> > the
> > > > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in
> > here
> > > > > again and I will slap it back in your
> face,
> > > > AGAIN.
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must
> be
> > > some
> > > > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he
> > cited
> > > > and his post is accurate about transfers.
> You
> > > got
> > > > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated
> BS.
> > > You
> > > > haven't cited any examples of illegal
> > transfers
> > > > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is
> > stuck
> > > in
> > > > the 1990s before the rule changes. My
> school
> > > > played the ER teams most years and we did
> > > ok--and
> > > > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man
> > up,
> > > let
> > > > people play FB and shut up unless you can
> > cite
> > > ONE
> > > > example. That's how all this started--your
> BS
> > > that
> > > > you can't back up about people cheating.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You know I was going to give you guys the
> > benefit
> > > of doubt that you were just ignorant of the
> > facts,
> > > BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass
> > shit,
> > > trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> > > obviously just liars! who are now trying to
> > bring
> > > pity into play with some Bullshit about kids
> of
> > > military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
> > >
> > > See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> > > handbook. These are just a few of the
> > exceptions
> > > to the Transfer rule! There are pages and
> > pages
> > > of exceptions where someone can work to
> exempt
> > the
> > > limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule.
> > You
> > > continue to get abused with your own
> rulebook,
> > I
> > > feel like the older brother holding your hand
> > and
> > > hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you
> > with
> > > "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING
> YOURSELF!"
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL!! PATHETIC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (7) A school board or division superintendent
> > may
> > > transfer a student, by name,
> > > within the school division without affecting
> > that
> > > student’s eligibility by specifically
> granting
> > a
> > > waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> > > waivers should be considered for the welfare
> of
> > > the student and/or school system and not for
> > > athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> > > Eligibility List of all teams which have
> > students
> > > who have been so waived shall reference the
> > > specific school board minutes or written
> > > documentation granting the waiver
> > >
> > > (5) A student entering the eighth grade for
> the
> > > first time becomes immediately eligible in
> the
> > > high school in which he/she enrolls
> regardless
> > of
> > > his or her residence status. A student
> entering
> > > the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> > > immediately eligible in the high school in
> > which
> > > he/she enrolls regardless of his or her
> > residence
> > > status.
> > >
> > >
> > > (1) A student shall become eligible for
> > > interscholastic competition after he/she has
> > been
> > > enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> > > calendar days. Exception: If a student
> > transfers
> > > during the summer and remains ineligible for
> > the
> > > entire subsequent school year, he/she would
> > become
> > > eligible beginning with the fall season of
> the
> > > following academic year.
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the
> > waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity"
> > purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates
> > back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're
> > already making excuses for why you don't think
> > whatever team is yours might lose. Every team
> that
> > has made it this far can play.
>
>
> CMON MAN! Do you read before you post? I told you
> I do not give a shit who wins (re read my original
> post), I am just here to tell the truth about
> these "transfers". I quoted directly from the
> VHSL rule book that you referenced. If you have a
> problem with the references refresh your handbook.
>
>
> Are you serious about referring back to the
> "athletic and/or activity" as a deterrent to
> having a transfer! OH YEA! my son wants to come
> to Smith because he really wants to attend this
> better school and OH by the way, he is a pretty
> good football player. Get serious!
---------
Sure, I can think of 2 schools in the ex-ER whose football programs benefitted from the old days of liberal transfers. Those days ended right around when Landstown titled with Percy Harvin. Your first post stated that Chesapeake kids could still go to "any school" they want as long as they had transportation. Maybe so in the past but the district's current handbook requires in-zone attendance with the same exceptions we have here. Then we linked you to Chesapeake's sports rule book stating that VHSL rules, not the district, decides who can play. Even you cited the rule that playing sports can't be a factor. No player is going to transfer and risk having to sit out the 365 days. Others don't transfer because of the same reasons kids around here don't move and transfer into better programs. Some might still game the system -- but mobility is restricted vs. the way it used to be. Maybe at least we can agree on that unless we find out that some of the current players are illegals. I know Andrew Brown isn't.
Would rather engage you on this weekend's games--can SJ and Westfield pull upsets and will BW end up winning D5 North. What do you think?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2013 04:12PM by SECEAST.
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> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Truthteller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > OneSBFan Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The Truthteller Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > SECEAST Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Truthteller:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are SO wrong about which rules
> > > determine
> > > > > > player eligibility after a move or
> > > transfer.
> > > > > Read
> > > > > > VHSL's handbook (link below). Its rules
> > > > > determine
> > > > > > whether a student who transfers or
> moves
> > is
> > > > > > eligible to play VHSL football. Each
> > > district
> > > > > > decides whether to allow the transfer,
> > but
> > > > not
> > > > > > whether a player can play. Even VHSL's
> > > waiver
> > > > > > provisions now specifically restrict
> > > > transfers
> > > > > for
> > > > > > sports. You also posted that Smith
> beats
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > other beach schools soundly, but
> didn’t
> > > > know
> > > > > > that Ocean Lakes beat Smith in last
> > > year’s
> > > > > > playoffs. How could you not know that?
> > > Seems
> > > > > like
> > > > > > your posts are stuck in the mid-1990s
> > > before
> > > > > the
> > > > > > VHSL cleanups on transfers/recruiting
> in
> > > 1998
> > > > > and
> > > > > > following. Read rules 28A-7-1 and
> > > 28-7-1(1),
> > > > > > making it perfectly clear that you are
> > not
> > > > > > eligible if you move or transfer unless
> > > your
> > > > > > parent or guardian has a corresponding
> > > change
> > > > > in
> > > > > > physical address.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/pub-handbook-2013-1
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 42.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PM 28A-7-1 (1) TRANSFER RULE/Move
> > > Requirement
> > > > > > (1-71)-A student who moves
> > > > > > from one school to another with no move
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > part of his parents is ineligible. This
> > > > student
> > > > > > can become eligible immediately when
> his
> > > > > parents
> > > > > > move to the zone served by the
> > student’s
> > > > new
> > > > > > school."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I love the way you quote the rule, BUT
> not
> > > the
> > > > 3
> > > > > pages of exceptions to the rule in the
> same
> > > > book.
> > > > > School Districts set the rules for
> > transfers
> > > > and
> > > > > their eligibility, read the book again!
> > > Where
> > > > it
> > > > > says Districts, that means School
> > Districts,
> > > > again
> > > > > sounds like you are just ignorant of the
> > > facts.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are also not very observant, I said
> > > "other
> > > > > Chesapeake schools" Ocean Lakes is from
> > > > Virginia
> > > > > Beach. Oscar Smith is from Chesapeake,
> > again
> > > > get
> > > > > your facts straight before you challenge
> > the
> > > > > Truthteller. Bring that weak ass shit in
> > here
> > > > > again and I will slap it back in your
> face,
> > > > AGAIN.
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > Truthteller: you are wrong again and must
> be
> > > some
> > > > kind of idiot. I read the entire rules he
> > cited
> > > > and his post is accurate about transfers.
> You
> > > got
> > > > caught with your weak and unsubstantiated
> BS.
> > > You
> > > > haven't cited any examples of illegal
> > transfers
> > > > anywhere just weak ass smack talk that is
> > stuck
> > > in
> > > > the 1990s before the rule changes. My
> school
> > > > played the ER teams most years and we did
> > > ok--and
> > > > you don't hear us crying like you are. Man
> > up,
> > > let
> > > > people play FB and shut up unless you can
> > cite
> > > ONE
> > > > example. That's how all this started--your
> BS
> > > that
> > > > you can't back up about people cheating.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You know I was going to give you guys the
> > benefit
> > > of doubt that you were just ignorant of the
> > facts,
> > > BUT you keep coming back with your weak ass
> > shit,
> > > trying to call out the Truthteller! You are
> > > obviously just liars! who are now trying to
> > bring
> > > pity into play with some Bullshit about kids
> of
> > > military playing for Smith. Nigga Please!
> > >
> > > See the below quoted directly from the VHSL
> > > handbook. These are just a few of the
> > exceptions
> > > to the Transfer rule! There are pages and
> > pages
> > > of exceptions where someone can work to
> exempt
> > the
> > > limp dick VHSL on enforcement of their rule.
> > You
> > > continue to get abused with your own
> rulebook,
> > I
> > > feel like the older brother holding your hand
> > and
> > > hitting you in the face, while ridiculing you
> > with
> > > "STOP HITTING YOURSELF!" STOP HITTING
> YOURSELF!"
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL!! PATHETIC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (7) A school board or division superintendent
> > may
> > > transfer a student, by name,
> > > within the school division without affecting
> > that
> > > student’s eligibility by specifically
> granting
> > a
> > > waiver of the Transfer Rule (28A-7-1). Such
> > > waivers should be considered for the welfare
> of
> > > the student and/or school system and not for
> > > athletic and/or activity purposes. The Master
> > > Eligibility List of all teams which have
> > students
> > > who have been so waived shall reference the
> > > specific school board minutes or written
> > > documentation granting the waiver
> > >
> > > (5) A student entering the eighth grade for
> the
> > > first time becomes immediately eligible in
> the
> > > high school in which he/she enrolls
> regardless
> > of
> > > his or her residence status. A student
> entering
> > > the ninth grade for the first time becomes
> > > immediately eligible in the high school in
> > which
> > > he/she enrolls regardless of his or her
> > residence
> > > status.
> > >
> > >
> > > (1) A student shall become eligible for
> > > interscholastic competition after he/she has
> > been
> > > enrolled in the school for 365 consecutive
> > > calendar days. Exception: If a student
> > transfers
> > > during the summer and remains ineligible for
> > the
> > > entire subsequent school year, he/she would
> > become
> > > eligible beginning with the fall season of
> the
> > > following academic year.
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > Like you posted, subsection 7 states that the
> > waivers can't for "athletic and/or activity"
> > purposes. Your anecdotal info is old and dates
> > back to the 1990s before the cleanups. You're
> > already making excuses for why you don't think
> > whatever team is yours might lose. Every team
> that
> > has made it this far can play.
>
>
> CMON MAN! Do you read before you post? I told you
> I do not give a shit who wins (re read my original
> post), I am just here to tell the truth about
> these "transfers". I quoted directly from the
> VHSL rule book that you referenced. If you have a
> problem with the references refresh your handbook.
>
>
> Are you serious about referring back to the
> "athletic and/or activity" as a deterrent to
> having a transfer! OH YEA! my son wants to come
> to Smith because he really wants to attend this
> better school and OH by the way, he is a pretty
> good football player. Get serious!
---------
Sure, I can think of 2 schools in the ex-ER whose football programs benefitted from the old days of liberal transfers. Those days ended right around when Landstown titled with Percy Harvin. Your first post stated that Chesapeake kids could still go to "any school" they want as long as they had transportation. Maybe so in the past but the district's current handbook requires in-zone attendance with the same exceptions we have here. Then we linked you to Chesapeake's sports rule book stating that VHSL rules, not the district, decides who can play. Even you cited the rule that playing sports can't be a factor. No player is going to transfer and risk having to sit out the 365 days. Others don't transfer because of the same reasons kids around here don't move and transfer into better programs. Some might still game the system -- but mobility is restricted vs. the way it used to be. Maybe at least we can agree on that unless we find out that some of the current players are illegals. I know Andrew Brown isn't.
Would rather engage you on this weekend's games--can SJ and Westfield pull upsets and will BW end up winning D5 North. What do you think?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2013 04:12PM by SECEAST.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: November 29, 2013 03:13PM
WestfieldDad Wrote:
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> O Smith had the speed advantage over Westfield in
> 2007 - 3 D1 senior recruit receivers and the
> junior was the fastest kid on the field, but
> Westfield won anyway.
>
> Reasons...
>
> Westfield had a great punting/kicking game, O
> Smith's was dreadful. 25 yards a punt difference,
> field goals from the 30+ and kickoffs into the
> endzone.
>
> Glennon - Glennon a senior - threw darts, had a
> senior's gamesmanship, and had the confidence of
> everyone on the team - they "knew" he'd get it
> done and he did, too.
>
> And, as Berdhius said, luck.
Holy siht, I don't remember mentioning luck. Discipline, my friends, and technique will win the day. Centreville had it, with superior tackling, in the 2011 NR finals over Westfield.
-------------------------------------------------------
> O Smith had the speed advantage over Westfield in
> 2007 - 3 D1 senior recruit receivers and the
> junior was the fastest kid on the field, but
> Westfield won anyway.
>
> Reasons...
>
> Westfield had a great punting/kicking game, O
> Smith's was dreadful. 25 yards a punt difference,
> field goals from the 30+ and kickoffs into the
> endzone.
>
> Glennon - Glennon a senior - threw darts, had a
> senior's gamesmanship, and had the confidence of
> everyone on the team - they "knew" he'd get it
> done and he did, too.
>
> And, as Berdhius said, luck.
Holy siht, I don't remember mentioning luck. Discipline, my friends, and technique will win the day. Centreville had it, with superior tackling, in the 2011 NR finals over Westfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: November 29, 2013 04:12PM
And another observation about that 2011 Centreville team - how the the Coach conducted himself and led the team immediately after their OT regular season loss to WF. He gathered that team in a circle in the middle of the field, taking a knee, and commended his players for a well fought game. Such respect for his players, and in return from his players. Did not see a single hung head in that group. That impressed me the most about that team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 29, 2013 04:25PM
Broad Run and Briar Woods tied at 31 in overtime! This is a great game!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 29, 2013 04:27PM
Briar Woods knocks off Broad Run 37 to 34!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Loudoun
()
Date: November 29, 2013 05:16PM
Great high school football game today at Briar Woods. Amazing effort by Broad Run team that lost by 35 to Briar a few weeks ago.
Gutsy effort by Vandy recruit McSorley, who was banged up and not 100%.
Should be great game next week for Region 5 championship vs North Staffoed - Massaponex winner.
Great job, Coach Griffis and your Spartans.
Gutsy effort by Vandy recruit McSorley, who was banged up and not 100%.
Should be great game next week for Region 5 championship vs North Staffoed - Massaponex winner.
Great job, Coach Griffis and your Spartans.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: November 29, 2013 08:30PM
Yes, sounds like Broad Run really found something that worked the last couple weeks. To beat Stone Bridge who they got crushed by, then to almost take down Briar Woods who they did get crushed by, kudos to them for making me look like an idiot with my 3 touchdown spread.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 29, 2013 08:49PM
Broad Run really played their hearts out this afternoon and the last few weeks. I walk away frozen but quite impressed in both teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: November 29, 2013 09:20PM
Anyone know the score of the South 6A region game today?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fdjk
()
Date: November 29, 2013 09:22PM
Ocean Lakes lost
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: November 29, 2013 09:33PM
Ouch! Just confirmed fdjk
23-20 - must have been good!
I was thinking that OL and OS would be the South Region Finals.
Guess anything can happen! Hope C'ville and LB remember that!
23-20 - must have been good!
I was thinking that OL and OS would be the South Region Finals.
Guess anything can happen! Hope C'ville and LB remember that!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:02PM
The first "college program" got beat down south tonight - Ocean Lakes. Will Oscar Smith be next? The karma of their recruiting methods are coming back to haunt them....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
what?
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:11PM
who are these teams?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 29, 2013 10:16PM
Well, if you are claiming that Ocean Lakes is cheating on such a rampant scale, how could they have possibly lost today's game? Hasn't God or Providence or whatever already decided to give them the championship trophy for the next five years anyway?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
C-Ville score?
()
Date: November 29, 2013 11:43PM
Did the C-Ville game happen? Score? Nothing posted here or on Max Preps. We are out of town, so don't know of any cancellations. What happened?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
()
Date: November 30, 2013 01:40AM
C-Ville score? Wrote:
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> Did the C-Ville game happen? Score? Nothing
> posted here or on Max Preps. We are out of town,
> so don't know of any cancellations. What happened?
6A North games are Saturday afternoon.
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> Did the C-Ville game happen? Score? Nothing
> posted here or on Max Preps. We are out of town,
> so don't know of any cancellations. What happened?
6A North games are Saturday afternoon.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Time? Place?
()
Date: November 30, 2013 07:42AM
What time are they? Can't find a schedule for 6A North games. Thanks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
heimeng
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:03AM
Stonewall Jackson thinks they can pull off the upset for the third straight time. They will have to play a near flawless game to do so. Rots o ruck.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:17AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Class 6A Playoffs -- Region Semifinals (State
> Quarterfinals)
> Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
>
> North
>
> #13 Stonewall Jackson (8-4) at #1 Centreville
> (12-0) in Clifton on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
> #3 Westfield (10-2) at #2 Lake Braddock (12-0) in
> Burke on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
>
> South
>
> #5 Forest Park (9-3) at #1 Oscar Smith (12-0) in
> Chesapeake on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
> #3 Colonial Forge (9-3) at #2 Ocean Lakes (12-0)
> in Virginia Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Class 6A Playoffs -- Region Semifinals (State
> Quarterfinals)
> Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
>
> North
>
> #13 Stonewall Jackson (8-4) at #1 Centreville
> (12-0) in Clifton on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
> #3 Westfield (10-2) at #2 Lake Braddock (12-0) in
> Burke on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.
>
> South
>
> #5 Forest Park (9-3) at #1 Oscar Smith (12-0) in
> Chesapeake on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
> #3 Colonial Forge (9-3) at #2 Ocean Lakes (12-0)
> in Virginia Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:18AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Class 5A Playoffs -- Region Semifinals (State
> Quarterfinals)
> Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
>
> North
>
> #5 North Stafford (10-2) at #1 Massaponax (12-0)
> in Fredericksburg on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
> #7 Broad Run (9-3) at #3 Briar Woods (11-1) in
> Ashburn on Friday at 1:30 p.m.
>
> South
>
> #2 Atlee (11-1) at #1 L.C. Bird (12-0) in
> Chesterfield on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
> #2 Green Run (9-3) at #1 Salem (10-2) in Virginia
> Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Class 5A Playoffs -- Region Semifinals (State
> Quarterfinals)
> Friday and Saturday, November 29 and 30, 2013
>
> North
>
> #5 North Stafford (10-2) at #1 Massaponax (12-0)
> in Fredericksburg on Saturday at 2:00 p.m.
> #7 Broad Run (9-3) at #3 Briar Woods (11-1) in
> Ashburn on Friday at 1:30 p.m.
>
> South
>
> #2 Atlee (11-1) at #1 L.C. Bird (12-0) in
> Chesterfield on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
> #2 Green Run (9-3) at #1 Salem (10-2) in Virginia
> Beach on Friday at 7:00 p.m.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
You Da Man
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:29AM
Thank you, Nat4lee!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:25AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Well, if you are claiming that Ocean Lakes is
> cheating on such a rampant scale, how could they
> have possibly lost today's game? Hasn't God or
> Providence or whatever already decided to give
> them the championship trophy for the next five
> years anyway?
---------
SO glad you answered these posters' claims. If a beach team wins, it is "cheating." If it loses "it is karma" because of cheating. When SB won 7 of 10 NR-D5 titles, people said we cheated, too. People also wrongfully accused LB with Henderson, etc. These crybabies have "credible sources" yet they can't cite one single example. Should be easy to do if it's so "rampant." We see beach teams every year and over time they are no better than teams from here. Maybe they put more players in D1 but their teams have not dominated ANY state class lately except for Phoebus in D5 and that run is over!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well, if you are claiming that Ocean Lakes is
> cheating on such a rampant scale, how could they
> have possibly lost today's game? Hasn't God or
> Providence or whatever already decided to give
> them the championship trophy for the next five
> years anyway?
---------
SO glad you answered these posters' claims. If a beach team wins, it is "cheating." If it loses "it is karma" because of cheating. When SB won 7 of 10 NR-D5 titles, people said we cheated, too. People also wrongfully accused LB with Henderson, etc. These crybabies have "credible sources" yet they can't cite one single example. Should be easy to do if it's so "rampant." We see beach teams every year and over time they are no better than teams from here. Maybe they put more players in D1 but their teams have not dominated ANY state class lately except for Phoebus in D5 and that run is over!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
C'Ville is a joke!
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:45AM
Oh boy Ocean Lakes down, paving the way for the Tigers!! Coach M is going to have these boys ready. Come on C'Ville you ass whoopin will be waiting!! To slow and predictable to play with the teams down here. Like I said before, catch us if you can!! Do I need the YouTube highlights again haha??!!
Go Tigers!!
Go Tigers!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Eff Ewe
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:56AM
Better be careful what you wish for asswipe.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bobbye ray
()
Date: November 30, 2013 01:31PM
Does anybody know if the games or on TV? Thank You
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mfmfmf
()
Date: November 30, 2013 01:31PM
are**
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
haha clinton dix
()
Date: November 30, 2013 01:59PM
Stonewall 14 cville 14 lake b 7 westfiweld 0 2nd qtr on both
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Knigthawk
()
Date: November 30, 2013 02:53PM
Centreville 21 - 14 3rd quarter
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde
()
Date: November 30, 2013 03:49PM
Westfield is about to beat Lake Braddock.. looks like Cville/Westfield Region final all over again!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: November 30, 2013 03:50PM
Concorde Wrote:
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> Westfield is about to beat Lake Braddock.. looks
> like Cville/Westfield Region final all over again!
Score, please?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Westfield is about to beat Lake Braddock.. looks
> like Cville/Westfield Region final all over again!
Score, please?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
rams
()
Date: November 30, 2013 03:54PM
Westfield Over Braddock for all you LB cocksuckers.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football
()
Date: November 30, 2013 03:54PM
westfield beat lb 19 to 16
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Knigthawk
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:01PM
Centreville 52 SJ 21
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:03PM
Gotta love this... it's why we actually go and play the games! Should be interesting next week with Westfield at Centreville to decide the North champion, and Colonial Forge at Oscar Smith to decide the South champion.
Can't wait!
Can't wait!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
predictions
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:11PM
Smith Over Centreville in the State Championship 41-21.....What do you guys think??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:19PM
predictions Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Smith Over Centreville in the State Championship
> 41-21.....What do you guys think??
My first impressions say the score should be closer, within 10 points, and Centreville MIGHT have the slight edge in that game... but again, anything could happen before we get to UVA in two weeks! Westfield looks good, hmm?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Smith Over Centreville in the State Championship
> 41-21.....What do you guys think??
My first impressions say the score should be closer, within 10 points, and Centreville MIGHT have the slight edge in that game... but again, anything could happen before we get to UVA in two weeks! Westfield looks good, hmm?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:27PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Division 5
>
> North Stafford (-6.0) @ Massaponax
> *North Stafford avenges their loss and hands
> Massaponax their first. Honestly I still haven't
> seen Massaponax and they may be the real deal, but
> I did see North Stafford and that team was loaded.
> I find it hard to believe a team beats them twice
> in one season.
>
> Broad Run @ Briar Woods (-21.0)
> *Still shocked Broad Run took down Stone Bridge,
> and actually quite disappointed. Stone Bridge was
> the better team and dominated Broad Run earlier in
> the season. A lot of people wanted to see the
> perenial state powers Stone Bridge and Briar Woods
> square off for the first time in the playoffs and
> going into the season I thought it would be a
> given. Not a huge Loudoun follower but I don't
> think Broad Run will play them close.
>
>
> Division 6
>
> Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
> *Again at this point in the season, all these
> teams are good, but just going off what I saw, I
> like Lake Braddock winning fairly comfortably this
> go around.
>
> Stonewall Jackson @ Centreville (-20.0)
> *Still haven't seen SJHS, but I'm guessing SJHS
> has not seen a team like Centreville this year.
> This may be a good one, but I am picking
> Centreville to cruise.
Westfield beats Lake Henderson today 17-16. Yeah, Lake Henderson got "comfortably" beat today by a team that did not give up, even though everyone thinks it's all about Caleb Henderson. I wonder if he's doing his Cam Newton "Superman" move now? Him and Lake Braddock losing makes my day for a number of reasons! Hahahahahahahahaha! Go Bulldogs!
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> Division 5
>
> North Stafford (-6.0) @ Massaponax
> *North Stafford avenges their loss and hands
> Massaponax their first. Honestly I still haven't
> seen Massaponax and they may be the real deal, but
> I did see North Stafford and that team was loaded.
> I find it hard to believe a team beats them twice
> in one season.
>
> Broad Run @ Briar Woods (-21.0)
> *Still shocked Broad Run took down Stone Bridge,
> and actually quite disappointed. Stone Bridge was
> the better team and dominated Broad Run earlier in
> the season. A lot of people wanted to see the
> perenial state powers Stone Bridge and Briar Woods
> square off for the first time in the playoffs and
> going into the season I thought it would be a
> given. Not a huge Loudoun follower but I don't
> think Broad Run will play them close.
>
>
> Division 6
>
> Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
> *Again at this point in the season, all these
> teams are good, but just going off what I saw, I
> like Lake Braddock winning fairly comfortably this
> go around.
>
> Stonewall Jackson @ Centreville (-20.0)
> *Still haven't seen SJHS, but I'm guessing SJHS
> has not seen a team like Centreville this year.
> This may be a good one, but I am picking
> Centreville to cruise.
Westfield beats Lake Henderson today 17-16. Yeah, Lake Henderson got "comfortably" beat today by a team that did not give up, even though everyone thinks it's all about Caleb Henderson. I wonder if he's doing his Cam Newton "Superman" move now? Him and Lake Braddock losing makes my day for a number of reasons! Hahahahahahahahaha! Go Bulldogs!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:34PM
Jim Greek Wrote:
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> I wonder how many white people will fall victim to
> the "knockout game" while these games are
> occurring?
Come play knockout with me you fucking punk.
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> I wonder how many white people will fall victim to
> the "knockout game" while these games are
> occurring?
Come play knockout with me you fucking punk.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Mike Tyson
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:42PM
Choke Braddock....once again....how do you lose when you're up 16-3 in the red zone with 5 minutes left in the game????!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hioh
()
Date: November 30, 2013 04:50PM
Hey Rootboy,
nice name, fits you well, you white faggot..........you need some nigger to knock your sissy ass out.
nice name, fits you well, you white faggot..........you need some nigger to knock your sissy ass out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:08PM
Hey Lake Braddock, hey Caleb Henderson - you are who we thought you were....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
lbstudent
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:14PM
I was at the game, they missed their go ahead extra point but the refs through a bullshit flag for roughing the kicker which gave them another shot, which they made. We completely deserved that loss though for not being able to close them out
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
lbstudent
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:17PM
Also Caleb lost his helmet on a play so had to sit out on a crucial 3rd and 8 on our last meaningful possession
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:19PM
that is called bad karma
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:19PM
hioh Wrote:
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> Hey Rootboy,
> nice name, fits you well, you white
> faggot..........you need some nigger to knock your
> sissy ass out.
Come to me punk, we'll figure it out.
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> Hey Rootboy,
> nice name, fits you well, you white
> faggot..........you need some nigger to knock your
> sissy ass out.
Come to me punk, we'll figure it out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:22PM
CVille ready to lay it on Westfield again baby!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Well...
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:24PM
for all of those who said LB was better than Cville sorry, you wont be able to see that game happen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:27PM
lbstudent Wrote:
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> Also Caleb lost his helmet on a play so had to sit
> out on a crucial 3rd and 8 on our last meaningful
> possession
Even better, punk ass crybaby #9 on Lake Henderson gets a personal foul for starting a fight at the end of the game because he's so upset! Way to keep your head and lose with a little class you little bitch. I am so glad Lake Henderson lost. Total lack of class by that whole team. Bunch of cocky assholes got what they had coming. Although it might have been fun to watch Centreville stomp Lake Henderson in the final, but Lake Henderson proved they were mostly hype this season.
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> Also Caleb lost his helmet on a play so had to sit
> out on a crucial 3rd and 8 on our last meaningful
> possession
Even better, punk ass crybaby #9 on Lake Henderson gets a personal foul for starting a fight at the end of the game because he's so upset! Way to keep your head and lose with a little class you little bitch. I am so glad Lake Henderson lost. Total lack of class by that whole team. Bunch of cocky assholes got what they had coming. Although it might have been fun to watch Centreville stomp Lake Henderson in the final, but Lake Henderson proved they were mostly hype this season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Go to UNC
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:30PM
Better yet Henderson and daddy move to North Carolina now....that is all you ever cared about not Virginia high school football.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde longtime
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:37PM
I can tell you all the Concorde coaches are congratulating Coach Simmons and his staff. No love lost between tham and the Polythress regime at LB. Karma is a bitch.
The Concorde once again establishes itself as the strongest conference in the region.
The Concorde once again establishes itself as the strongest conference in the region.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 05:50PM
Agree with your post with one quibble = Concorde ALWAYS has been best district in the area
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:10PM
Lake Braddock, what a bunch of poseurs. That is how it goes when you transfer your selfish QB in, play a pussy schedule in the Patriot and assume you are going to cake walk through the playoffs. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Stop The Haters
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:20PM
Why so much hateration. LB played the game, fought hard and lost. Henderson played hard and lost. Enough already. All the hateration smacks of simple and shallow jealousy. Good luck to Westfield and C'ville, repping the North. Good luck to the Henderson kid and all other LB seniors who move forward to the next level.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:24PM
Don't understand the hate for LB. LB was a great team this year - how can you discount a 12-1 season? Reminds me of the haters that came out after the last two 12-1 Westfield seasons. Acting like it was a bad year. 12-1 is a GREAT season and LB should be proud of their accomplishments this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Matt Sturbate
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:25PM
Stop The Haters Wrote:
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> Why so much hateration. LB played the game,
> fought hard and lost. Henderson played hard and
> lost. Enough already. All the hateration smacks
> of simple and shallow jealousy. Good luck to
> Westfield and C'ville, repping the North. Good
> luck to the Henderson kid and all other LB seniors
> who move forward to the next level.
Agree, poster. LB lost and Westfield won. The refs let the two teams play and the better team today came out on top. I would have loved to see a centerville / lake Braddock game.
The game today was hard fought and well played by both teams. Congrats to the bulldogs, good luck next week.
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> Why so much hateration. LB played the game,
> fought hard and lost. Henderson played hard and
> lost. Enough already. All the hateration smacks
> of simple and shallow jealousy. Good luck to
> Westfield and C'ville, repping the North. Good
> luck to the Henderson kid and all other LB seniors
> who move forward to the next level.
Agree, poster. LB lost and Westfield won. The refs let the two teams play and the better team today came out on top. I would have loved to see a centerville / lake Braddock game.
The game today was hard fought and well played by both teams. Congrats to the bulldogs, good luck next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:31PM
Ok thanks mommy and daddy. Braddock sucks and the karma came back to bite them in the ass.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:37PM
I agree Braddock had this shit coming to them. Be gone Henderson, bye bye.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CVILLE CITY
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:39PM
28-0
28-0
28-0
28-0
28-0
28-0
28-0
28-0
28-0
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:40PM
yeah baby 28-0 ha ha
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:03PM
BRAD DOCK SUX Wrote:
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> Ok thanks mommy and daddy. Braddock sucks and the
> karma came back to bite them in the ass.
Hahaha. Just like to see what goes around come around for some big time assholes. Karmic justice. Lake Henderson was so goddamn arrogant and without class this season, especially their QB. Saw him taunt and gloat many times this fall after beating up on weak teams, like he is some kind of NFL superstar, which is just what his father was trying to spin and hype on VA Preps, Gameday, etc. It's easy to pad your stats against weak teams. And it's easy to pretend you're some kind of legit option QB who can actually run. What a joke. He'll find out it's a different story at UNC, if he ever even sees the field.
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> Ok thanks mommy and daddy. Braddock sucks and the
> karma came back to bite them in the ass.
Hahaha. Just like to see what goes around come around for some big time assholes. Karmic justice. Lake Henderson was so goddamn arrogant and without class this season, especially their QB. Saw him taunt and gloat many times this fall after beating up on weak teams, like he is some kind of NFL superstar, which is just what his father was trying to spin and hype on VA Preps, Gameday, etc. It's easy to pad your stats against weak teams. And it's easy to pretend you're some kind of legit option QB who can actually run. What a joke. He'll find out it's a different story at UNC, if he ever even sees the field.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
northern region guy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:08PM
I agree screw braddock and the Hendersons....got what they deserved
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
northern region guy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:13PM
Was at the game and even though Westfield hung in and took the game not sure they have nearly what it takes to beat Centreville next week. Remember they were losing 16-3 until nearly the end, not exactly an offensive explosion. Might not get shellacked like they did the first time against the Wildcats but not sensing they can beat CVille and go south to Charlottesville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:14PM
You got that right Northern Region Guy
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Haaaaaa
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:21PM
Ok Rootboy, I'm no fan of LB but I think you can stop using your less-than-witty "Lake Henderson" reference. You probably have some other axe to grind, so move on.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:22PM
northern region guy Wrote:
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> Was at the game and even though Westfield hung in
> and took the game not sure they have nearly what
> it takes to beat Centreville next week. Remember
> they were losing 16-3 until nearly the end, not
> exactly an offensive explosion. Might not get
> shellacked like they did the first time against
> the Wildcats but not sensing they can beat CVille
> and go south to Charlottesville.
Agreed. Westfield hung on today and beat a very hyped up team which was really not as good as some people were saying. Centreville will be a big challenge. Not impossible to beat, but Westfield will have to do everything right and have a little luck (and luck is where preparation meets opportunity). Unlike today against Lake Henderson, Westfield will need to convert their 3rd and 4th downs, finish drives and not leave points on the field. Also will need to take care of the ball and don't make it easy for Centreville, which has an explosive offense. Should be a good game. I am happy to see these two teams in there.
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> Was at the game and even though Westfield hung in
> and took the game not sure they have nearly what
> it takes to beat Centreville next week. Remember
> they were losing 16-3 until nearly the end, not
> exactly an offensive explosion. Might not get
> shellacked like they did the first time against
> the Wildcats but not sensing they can beat CVille
> and go south to Charlottesville.
Agreed. Westfield hung on today and beat a very hyped up team which was really not as good as some people were saying. Centreville will be a big challenge. Not impossible to beat, but Westfield will have to do everything right and have a little luck (and luck is where preparation meets opportunity). Unlike today against Lake Henderson, Westfield will need to convert their 3rd and 4th downs, finish drives and not leave points on the field. Also will need to take care of the ball and don't make it easy for Centreville, which has an explosive offense. Should be a good game. I am happy to see these two teams in there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:26PM
I heard Thrasher Walker went out in first half and came back on crutches in the second half. Anyone know the extent of his injury?
That makes the WF win even that much more impressive.
That makes the WF win even that much more impressive.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
northern region guy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:27PM
Hey Root Boy ok and I do not have a dog in the fight but I see Centreville winning 41-20 over Westfield. Do not think it is going to be particularly close.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:27PM
Haaaaaa Wrote:
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> Ok Rootboy, I'm no fan of LB but I think you can
> stop using your less-than-witty "Lake Henderson"
> reference. You probably have some other axe to
> grind, so move on.
Awww, does that annoy you? Sorry! I think I'll be using "Lake Henderson" for the foreseeable future, because I kind of like the ring of it, and also because it seems to piss you off, ese.
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> Ok Rootboy, I'm no fan of LB but I think you can
> stop using your less-than-witty "Lake Henderson"
> reference. You probably have some other axe to
> grind, so move on.
Awww, does that annoy you? Sorry! I think I'll be using "Lake Henderson" for the foreseeable future, because I kind of like the ring of it, and also because it seems to piss you off, ese.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
northern region guy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:29PM
If Thrasher Walker does not play could even be something like 41-10. Do not see where Westfield will get consistent offense as they surely did not today.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:30PM
Here are your state semifinal (region final) matchups, with the dates and times to be announced Monday morning by the VHSL:
6A
Westfield @ Centreville
Colonial Forge @ Oscar Smith
5A
North Stafford @ Briar Woods
Salem (VB) @ L.C. Bird
6A
Westfield @ Centreville
Colonial Forge @ Oscar Smith
5A
North Stafford @ Briar Woods
Salem (VB) @ L.C. Bird
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:33PM
northern region guy Wrote:
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> Hey Root Boy ok and I do not have a dog in the
> fight but I see Centreville winning 41-20 over
> Westfield. Do not think it is going to be
> particularly close.
You are probably not too far off. Everything will have to go right for Westfield, and Centreville will have to make some mistakes, to make it a close game and actually pull out the win. But as we have seen, Centreville can go down 21-0 and still come roaring back. Westfield's defense is better than South County's, but Centreville has so many weapons.
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> Hey Root Boy ok and I do not have a dog in the
> fight but I see Centreville winning 41-20 over
> Westfield. Do not think it is going to be
> particularly close.
You are probably not too far off. Everything will have to go right for Westfield, and Centreville will have to make some mistakes, to make it a close game and actually pull out the win. But as we have seen, Centreville can go down 21-0 and still come roaring back. Westfield's defense is better than South County's, but Centreville has so many weapons.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
homosexual rootboy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:39PM
Who is this rootboy punk? He sure runs his mouth on here. Probabbly never even played a down in his life.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
braddock karma
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:40PM
Cockiest school in Nova u wonder why everyone hates them and is piling on leading 16 to 3 with over5 min to go and henderson throws a pass around westfield 25 pick 6 and the come back is on. Just run out the clock on the ground and u win but nooo! Greedy and cocky and now I know it tastes bad Braddock. Even all the other patriot conf opponents wanted braddock to lose even though concorde will continue to have bragging rights. Several patriot conf folks were saying anyone other than braddock and we would pull for patriot
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:43PM
homosexual rootboy Wrote:
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> Who is this rootboy punk? He sure runs his mouth
> on here. Probabbly never even played a down in his
> life.
Oh, did you call me a homo? Guess you told me good, huh Caleb? Fuck you, you ugly loser.
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> Who is this rootboy punk? He sure runs his mouth
> on here. Probabbly never even played a down in his
> life.
Oh, did you call me a homo? Guess you told me good, huh Caleb? Fuck you, you ugly loser.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mistake by the lake
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:45PM
They will call this one "Mistake by the Lake" in Lake Braddock football history books.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
braddock student
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:48PM
Why do y'all hate us so much?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:49PM
mistake by the lake Wrote:
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> They will call this one "Mistake by the Lake" in
> Lake Braddock football history books.
Hahahahahahaha!!! I LIKE that! Better than Lake Henderson. Mistake is right. Probably should have stayed at West Po, instead of trying to stack the deck.
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> They will call this one "Mistake by the Lake" in
> Lake Braddock football history books.
Hahahahahahaha!!! I LIKE that! Better than Lake Henderson. Mistake is right. Probably should have stayed at West Po, instead of trying to stack the deck.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
food lion
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:08PM
Serious ? Lake B has a stud athlete 6 3 210 fast big wideout A J with 1 touch 5 yards. HENDO C'mon Man!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football observer
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:21PM
braddock karma Wrote:
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> leading 16 to 3 with over5 min to go and henderson throws a pass around
> westfield 25 pick 6 and the come back is on.
that is not what happened
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> leading 16 to 3 with over5 min to go and henderson throws a pass around
> westfield 25 pick 6 and the come back is on.
that is not what happened
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:25PM
Does anyone who was actually at the Westfield/Lake Braddock game today have a DETAILED analysis of what actually occurred during the game, and why Westfield came out the victor?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:29PM
I didnt see the WF/LB game but I understand Tyler-Thrasher Walker had a hurt knee early.
Anyone have the scoop on how serious it was?
And anyone have a sense about the upcoming Oscar Smith Colonial Gorge game?
Anyone have the scoop on how serious it was?
And anyone have a sense about the upcoming Oscar Smith Colonial Gorge game?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
lbwf
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:35PM
Braddock was up 16-3, and going for a 30 yard field goal with 5 minutes to go....ball was blocked and Westfield ran it all the way back...........then they got it back and drove down for the winning score.
Westfield ran the ball really well, but Braddock kind of gave the game away in the end.
That's the way it goes sometimes.
Westfield ran the ball really well, but Braddock kind of gave the game away in the end.
That's the way it goes sometimes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
roundtree
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:38PM
Rootboy needs his faggot ass whipped.....this nigger here is just the person to do it..........c'mon whiteboy
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:51PM
Nat,
I was at the entire game. LB totally gave the game away. Midway through the 4th quarter it didn't even feel like the two teams should have been on the same field it seemed so clearly in hand.
As was said, with about five minutes left, LB was driving into Westfield territory. In my opinion, the coaches messed up big time in that they were pretty conservative most of the game and most plays were the run option with very little passing. If LB had stuck to the ground game and used clock, it would have been game over. Instead, LB had an incomplete pass on 1st down and another on 3rd down, saving around two minutes.
Westfield has no passing game whatsoever, and usually takes around 4-5 minutes to ground and pound down the field, so even if LB had "gone for it" on 4th down, Westfield would have needed what was left just to get one score, nevermind two scores.
Instead, the FG try line drived right to a kid in the secondary who sprinted downfield. One of the issues was he was almost tackled at the LB 20 yard line, right in front of where I was, and a number of us believed the runner actually stepped out of bounds, but it wasn't called.
When LB got ball back still up 6 points, they got one first down, but then Henderson's helmet came off during the 2nd down play, so Edwards came in and almost got a first down. I would have liked to have seen LB "Bill Belichek" it at that point and get the first down on 4th and 1, but it would have been a risky call on the LB 30. They did punt and got it to Westfield 20, but LB allowed Westfield to break a couple of long runs, and they scored with 15 seconds left.
This is when the greatest extra point refereeing cluster f*** you have ever seen occurred. Westfield missed the attempt keeping the score at 16, but refs called roughing the kicker, even though it was tipped by an LB player. (Just to confirm, I talked to a kid just now at a friend's house who confirmed the ball was tipped), but the refs ignored that and called the penalty. After 2 LB offsides and 1 Westfield illegal motion, and a couple more kicks, the point after was good. That was ball game.
Bottom line in my opinion--LB played conservative at times when "airing it out" made sense, but with game in hand and clock and field their friends, they didn't manage the game well and just like Alabama, a fluke play allowed the game to get away from them.
I was at the entire game. LB totally gave the game away. Midway through the 4th quarter it didn't even feel like the two teams should have been on the same field it seemed so clearly in hand.
As was said, with about five minutes left, LB was driving into Westfield territory. In my opinion, the coaches messed up big time in that they were pretty conservative most of the game and most plays were the run option with very little passing. If LB had stuck to the ground game and used clock, it would have been game over. Instead, LB had an incomplete pass on 1st down and another on 3rd down, saving around two minutes.
Westfield has no passing game whatsoever, and usually takes around 4-5 minutes to ground and pound down the field, so even if LB had "gone for it" on 4th down, Westfield would have needed what was left just to get one score, nevermind two scores.
Instead, the FG try line drived right to a kid in the secondary who sprinted downfield. One of the issues was he was almost tackled at the LB 20 yard line, right in front of where I was, and a number of us believed the runner actually stepped out of bounds, but it wasn't called.
When LB got ball back still up 6 points, they got one first down, but then Henderson's helmet came off during the 2nd down play, so Edwards came in and almost got a first down. I would have liked to have seen LB "Bill Belichek" it at that point and get the first down on 4th and 1, but it would have been a risky call on the LB 30. They did punt and got it to Westfield 20, but LB allowed Westfield to break a couple of long runs, and they scored with 15 seconds left.
This is when the greatest extra point refereeing cluster f*** you have ever seen occurred. Westfield missed the attempt keeping the score at 16, but refs called roughing the kicker, even though it was tipped by an LB player. (Just to confirm, I talked to a kid just now at a friend's house who confirmed the ball was tipped), but the refs ignored that and called the penalty. After 2 LB offsides and 1 Westfield illegal motion, and a couple more kicks, the point after was good. That was ball game.
Bottom line in my opinion--LB played conservative at times when "airing it out" made sense, but with game in hand and clock and field their friends, they didn't manage the game well and just like Alabama, a fluke play allowed the game to get away from them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:54PM
Thank you for calm rational people on this board. Great points that I think deserve to be debated in the Burke community for some time to come.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2013 09:56PM by nat4lee.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2013 09:56PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: November 30, 2013 09:57PM
roundtree Wrote:
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> Rootboy needs his faggot ass whipped.....this
> nigger here is just the person to do
> it..........c'mon whiteboy
Poor thing. Are you one of the blobs who stands on the sideline in your Lake Henderson purple people eater uniform and never gets to get on the field? Or are you one of the cowards who talks about it, but really doesn't even have the balls to take the risk of sucker punching some woman walking along and then running away? Probably both.
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> Rootboy needs his faggot ass whipped.....this
> nigger here is just the person to do
> it..........c'mon whiteboy
Poor thing. Are you one of the blobs who stands on the sideline in your Lake Henderson purple people eater uniform and never gets to get on the field? Or are you one of the cowards who talks about it, but really doesn't even have the balls to take the risk of sucker punching some woman walking along and then running away? Probably both.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
chubbybeagle
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:02PM
Nat,
I haven't seen Centerville play this year, but given what I've seen in the papers, I will be stunned if Westfield gets within 2 TD's in the final score, especially if their stud running back is hurt. I was not real impressed overall with Westfield--play hard and steady, but talent wise they didn't seem as strong as past Westfield teams.
I think this will play out like most people expect--Centerville winning the North comfortably and then Oscar Smith winning the state championship. But, of course, this is why they play the games because teams win on the field not on paper.
I haven't seen Centerville play this year, but given what I've seen in the papers, I will be stunned if Westfield gets within 2 TD's in the final score, especially if their stud running back is hurt. I was not real impressed overall with Westfield--play hard and steady, but talent wise they didn't seem as strong as past Westfield teams.
I think this will play out like most people expect--Centerville winning the North comfortably and then Oscar Smith winning the state championship. But, of course, this is why they play the games because teams win on the field not on paper.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:06PM
After braving the cold and wind the past couple weeks I think I completely agree with your thoughts, and look forward to attending a great game in Charlottesville that honestly leaves a razor-thin margin for error from either Centreville or Oscar Smith if they want to come home happy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Best-of-luck-at-UNC
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:28PM
Definitely seemed to be a couple of bad calls. The change in momentum was palpable. If the LB kids had been able to shake off the mistake, they might have not choked. It had been a while since they had a close game. It was a lot of pressure.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Really............
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:38PM
I also attended the game today and saw a much different game. I thought westfield gave away the game in the first half. They were dominant on offense. Terrible play calling in the red zone killed them. Their coordinator really needs to open it up a bit. The westfield of old would have scored on both their opportunities and would have won that game easily. It should have been at least 14 to 14 at half. The opening drive westfield ran the ball at will and threw a nice pass down inside the five. Four runs later and no score. I'm not saying they needed to take the 3- I agree with going for it. I just hated the selection. Lb just brought a ton of pressure and gave them no shot. Then again with 1st and goal and penalty moved them back to goal and 17 to go. He finally calls a pass, a boot, opposite of his throwing hand forcing the qb to throw across his body and be picked. Didn't like it. Later in the game they started getting the ball to #1 on quick bubbles and a few deep balls. They were doing great things. After the half they never came back to those things. It was like after 22 got hurt, they got super conservative. The fb who moved to rb played his butt off. He was gassed. Get some play action or some regular passes to lighten his load. Even the westfield fans were screaming to thrown the ball.
At the end the block kick returned for a score was an amazing play. Westfield plays great D and gets the ball back. Henderson did have to come off for being on the sideline after a time out not his helmet coming off. The timeout would have allowed him to return after the helmet coming off - just like blood. Westfield has a huge run down the sideline and then scores. The pat was not blocked or tipped like previously told, the kid pushed it wide. I was standing in the corner of the track in that end zone. They did run into him and then there were multiple more flags because lb kept trying to fake the jump over the center (you can't run up to the line and stomp your feet before the snap). Braddock gets the ball back and was sacked multiple times to end it.
So in conclusion I thought westfield should have won all around. If Braddock would have held on to win I would have said westfield lost the game because of play calling.
Also - if you are Braddock why not get the ball to 24 more. He is a man and I doubt westfield could have covered him all game. He was open the majority of the time but Henderson never looked his way.
At the end the block kick returned for a score was an amazing play. Westfield plays great D and gets the ball back. Henderson did have to come off for being on the sideline after a time out not his helmet coming off. The timeout would have allowed him to return after the helmet coming off - just like blood. Westfield has a huge run down the sideline and then scores. The pat was not blocked or tipped like previously told, the kid pushed it wide. I was standing in the corner of the track in that end zone. They did run into him and then there were multiple more flags because lb kept trying to fake the jump over the center (you can't run up to the line and stomp your feet before the snap). Braddock gets the ball back and was sacked multiple times to end it.
So in conclusion I thought westfield should have won all around. If Braddock would have held on to win I would have said westfield lost the game because of play calling.
Also - if you are Braddock why not get the ball to 24 more. He is a man and I doubt westfield could have covered him all game. He was open the majority of the time but Henderson never looked his way.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldog
()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:42PM
Two years in a row where the play selection has caused problems in big games. Last year against Oakton the play calling was awful. Today it was just as bad. Coach fired Shannon after last season because of it, he might need to do the same this year. There are a lot of old head coaches on the staff - let one of them call the plays.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
food lion
()
Date: November 30, 2013 11:44PM
Read the rules he came off for losing his helmet and the 2nd string qb went in and off and then back in he should have missed that play also. Funny Braddock fan saw the game one way and westfield fan another the truth wassomewhere in the middle ofboth of there observations. Had to be painful leading 16 to 3 with 5 + to go and tasting victory only to be sitting home next weekend with the other losers after going 12 and 0 with a tranfer stud qb and a under utilized stud receiver
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CvilleBacker
()
Date: December 01, 2013 03:04AM
Really............ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I also attended the game today and saw a much
> different game. I thought westfield gave away the
> game in the first half. They were dominant on
> offense. Terrible play calling in the red zone
> killed them. Their coordinator really needs to
> open it up a bit. The westfield of old would have
> scored on both their opportunities and would have
> won that game easily. It should have been at least
> 14 to 14 at half. The opening drive westfield ran
> the ball at will and threw a nice pass down inside
> the five. Four runs later and no score. I'm not
> saying they needed to take the 3- I agree with
> going for it. I just hated the selection. Lb just
> brought a ton of pressure and gave them no shot.
> Then again with 1st and goal and penalty moved
> them back to goal and 17 to go. He finally calls a
> pass, a boot, opposite of his throwing hand
> forcing the qb to throw across his body and be
> picked. Didn't like it. Later in the game they
> started getting the ball to #1 on quick bubbles
> and a few deep balls. They were doing great
> things. After the half they never came back to
> those things. It was like after 22 got hurt, they
> got super conservative. The fb who moved to rb
> played his butt off. He was gassed. Get some play
> action or some regular passes to lighten his load.
> Even the westfield fans were screaming to thrown
> the ball.
>
> At the end the block kick returned for a score was
> an amazing play. Westfield plays great D and gets
> the ball back. Henderson did have to come off for
> being on the sideline after a time out not his
> helmet coming off. The timeout would have allowed
> him to return after the helmet coming off - just
> like blood. Westfield has a huge run down the
> sideline and then scores. The pat was not blocked
> or tipped like previously told, the kid pushed it
> wide. I was standing in the corner of the track in
> that end zone. They did run into him and then
> there were multiple more flags because lb kept
> trying to fake the jump over the center (you can't
> run up to the line and stomp your feet before the
> snap). Braddock gets the ball back and was sacked
> multiple times to end it.
>
> So in conclusion I thought westfield should have
> won all around. If Braddock would have held on to
> win I would have said westfield lost the game
> because of play calling.
>
> Also - if you are Braddock why not get the ball to
> 24 more. He is a man and I doubt westfield could
> have covered him all game. He was open the
> majority of the time but Henderson never looked
> his way.
Thank you Westfield for making this easy! We are going to kick your ass, just like last time only worse. You may score this time, but we will have the second team in by the 3rd Qrt.
Someone tell me why this time will be different. Centreville is going to embarass Westfield next Saturday at Centreville, everyone come out and watch!
-------------------------------------------------------
> I also attended the game today and saw a much
> different game. I thought westfield gave away the
> game in the first half. They were dominant on
> offense. Terrible play calling in the red zone
> killed them. Their coordinator really needs to
> open it up a bit. The westfield of old would have
> scored on both their opportunities and would have
> won that game easily. It should have been at least
> 14 to 14 at half. The opening drive westfield ran
> the ball at will and threw a nice pass down inside
> the five. Four runs later and no score. I'm not
> saying they needed to take the 3- I agree with
> going for it. I just hated the selection. Lb just
> brought a ton of pressure and gave them no shot.
> Then again with 1st and goal and penalty moved
> them back to goal and 17 to go. He finally calls a
> pass, a boot, opposite of his throwing hand
> forcing the qb to throw across his body and be
> picked. Didn't like it. Later in the game they
> started getting the ball to #1 on quick bubbles
> and a few deep balls. They were doing great
> things. After the half they never came back to
> those things. It was like after 22 got hurt, they
> got super conservative. The fb who moved to rb
> played his butt off. He was gassed. Get some play
> action or some regular passes to lighten his load.
> Even the westfield fans were screaming to thrown
> the ball.
>
> At the end the block kick returned for a score was
> an amazing play. Westfield plays great D and gets
> the ball back. Henderson did have to come off for
> being on the sideline after a time out not his
> helmet coming off. The timeout would have allowed
> him to return after the helmet coming off - just
> like blood. Westfield has a huge run down the
> sideline and then scores. The pat was not blocked
> or tipped like previously told, the kid pushed it
> wide. I was standing in the corner of the track in
> that end zone. They did run into him and then
> there were multiple more flags because lb kept
> trying to fake the jump over the center (you can't
> run up to the line and stomp your feet before the
> snap). Braddock gets the ball back and was sacked
> multiple times to end it.
>
> So in conclusion I thought westfield should have
> won all around. If Braddock would have held on to
> win I would have said westfield lost the game
> because of play calling.
>
> Also - if you are Braddock why not get the ball to
> 24 more. He is a man and I doubt westfield could
> have covered him all game. He was open the
> majority of the time but Henderson never looked
> his way.
Thank you Westfield for making this easy! We are going to kick your ass, just like last time only worse. You may score this time, but we will have the second team in by the 3rd Qrt.
Someone tell me why this time will be different. Centreville is going to embarass Westfield next Saturday at Centreville, everyone come out and watch!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
dumbparents
()
Date: December 01, 2013 08:45AM
Really............ Wrote:
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> I just hated the selection. Lb just
> brought a ton of pressure and gave them no shot.
braddock brought NO pressure. Don't recall them blitzing hardly at all. Regardless of your affinity for the playcalling, if a team can gain yards on the ground at will (Like westfield did in the second half) they aren't going to change.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I just hated the selection. Lb just
> brought a ton of pressure and gave them no shot.
braddock brought NO pressure. Don't recall them blitzing hardly at all. Regardless of your affinity for the playcalling, if a team can gain yards on the ground at will (Like westfield did in the second half) they aren't going to change.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 01, 2013 09:15AM
CvilleBacker wrote;
"Someone tell me why this time will be different. Centreville is going to embarass Westfield next Saturday at Centreville, everyone come out and watch!"
First, I doubt you're a Centreville football player, especially a LB. Coach Newell is an awesome coach and his players certainly have more class. Second, why would you taunt your opponent, especially a district rival, anything can and will happen in a rivalry game. Third, please don't rest your prediction based on the last game, Westfield had 8 starters out in that game, they were the LT, RG, both DT's, DE, both MLB's, DB. Oh, and their QB was playing his first game back recovering from a concussion so I think this game might be a bit closer than most think. Point is, if you actually play for Centreville why would you be that stupid to offer bulletin board material? Don't think the Kids don't know what gets put on here!
"Someone tell me why this time will be different. Centreville is going to embarass Westfield next Saturday at Centreville, everyone come out and watch!"
First, I doubt you're a Centreville football player, especially a LB. Coach Newell is an awesome coach and his players certainly have more class. Second, why would you taunt your opponent, especially a district rival, anything can and will happen in a rivalry game. Third, please don't rest your prediction based on the last game, Westfield had 8 starters out in that game, they were the LT, RG, both DT's, DE, both MLB's, DB. Oh, and their QB was playing his first game back recovering from a concussion so I think this game might be a bit closer than most think. Point is, if you actually play for Centreville why would you be that stupid to offer bulletin board material? Don't think the Kids don't know what gets put on here!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
LL3nw
()
Date: December 01, 2013 09:21AM
Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> CvilleBacker wrote;
>
> "Someone tell me why this time will be different.
> Centreville is going to embarass Westfield next
> Saturday at Centreville, everyone come out and
> watch!"
>
> First, I doubt you're a Centreville football
> player, especially a LB. Coach Newell is an
> awesome coach and his players certainly have more
> class. Second, why would you taunt your opponent,
> especially a district rival, anything can and will
> happen in a rivalry game. Third, please don't rest
> your prediction based on the last game, Westfield
> had 8 starters out in that game, they were the LT,
> RG, both DT's, DE, both MLB's, DB. Oh, and their
> QB was playing his first game back recovering from
> a concussion so I think this game might be a bit
> closer than most think. Point is, if you actually
> play for Centreville why would you be that stupid
> to offer bulletin board material? Don't think the
> Kids don't know what gets put on here!
no kids read this fucking site
who are you kidding?
-------------------------------------------------------
> CvilleBacker wrote;
>
> "Someone tell me why this time will be different.
> Centreville is going to embarass Westfield next
> Saturday at Centreville, everyone come out and
> watch!"
>
> First, I doubt you're a Centreville football
> player, especially a LB. Coach Newell is an
> awesome coach and his players certainly have more
> class. Second, why would you taunt your opponent,
> especially a district rival, anything can and will
> happen in a rivalry game. Third, please don't rest
> your prediction based on the last game, Westfield
> had 8 starters out in that game, they were the LT,
> RG, both DT's, DE, both MLB's, DB. Oh, and their
> QB was playing his first game back recovering from
> a concussion so I think this game might be a bit
> closer than most think. Point is, if you actually
> play for Centreville why would you be that stupid
> to offer bulletin board material? Don't think the
> Kids don't know what gets put on here!
no kids read this fucking site
who are you kidding?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 01, 2013 09:25AM
Point was if you're playing in the game don't talk shit. However I doubt this idiot does because he would know better!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
almost there
()
Date: December 01, 2013 10:26AM
Lets go Centreville!........one more win and then its "bring on those niggers from the Beach"!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RE CVILLE BACKER
()
Date: December 01, 2013 10:32AM
Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Point was if you're playing in the game don't talk
> shit. However I doubt this idiot does because he
> would know better!
I think he's just saying he's a cville backer? As in he backs Cville football?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Point was if you're playing in the game don't talk
> shit. However I doubt this idiot does because he
> would know better!
I think he's just saying he's a cville backer? As in he backs Cville football?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
What happened to #4?
()
Date: December 01, 2013 10:39AM
I went to the Centreville game yesterday and noticed Nickens-Yzer was only playing defense? Anyone know why?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Guessing
()
Date: December 01, 2013 10:53AM
What happened to #4? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I went to the Centreville game yesterday and
> noticed Nickens-Yzer was only playing defense?
> Anyone know why?
I'm guessing it's because #4 has shoulder injury and he's re-injured it a few times while running the ball.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I went to the Centreville game yesterday and
> noticed Nickens-Yzer was only playing defense?
> Anyone know why?
I'm guessing it's because #4 has shoulder injury and he's re-injured it a few times while running the ball.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 01, 2013 11:19AM
Yesterday, I saw C'Ville play for the first time since the 2011 game at UVA. That 2011 team beat a tough 12-0 Hermy team in the semis but struggled when its star got hurt early at UVA. Based on what I saw yesterday, this year's D has more speed, especially re DBs and LBs coming to the ball. Yesterday, the D was well-coached plus players were in the right spots and mostly made good reads. Just on that alone, it's easy to see why this team has been tough to beat. Looking to next week, both teams have shown the ability to overcome in-game adversity. Any team that comes from 21 down and goes on a 27-0 run in Q4 vs SoCo has game. The same goes for what Westfield did yesterday. Beating a 12-0 team after trailing by 13 with 6 mins to go says volumes about the will to win. I wouldn't count out either team next week and whichever one goes to UVA will be battle-tested. Congrats to the other playoff teams for making it this far.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CentrevilleParent
()
Date: December 01, 2013 11:39AM
Fan,
Concur that "CvilleBacker" is not an Centreville LB. The LBs are pretty classy. Some of DBs are trashtalkers. Wish they'd stop, since the secondary is actually pretty weak.
Frankly, "CvilleBacker" is probably a Westfield parent trying to rouse his team. Recommend he just let the kids play the game and quit trying to create the wrong atmosphere for the game.
Concur that "CvilleBacker" is not an Centreville LB. The LBs are pretty classy. Some of DBs are trashtalkers. Wish they'd stop, since the secondary is actually pretty weak.
Frankly, "CvilleBacker" is probably a Westfield parent trying to rouse his team. Recommend he just let the kids play the game and quit trying to create the wrong atmosphere for the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 01, 2013 12:26PM
Wanted to say again, Braddock sux....nice job yesterday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: December 01, 2013 01:25PM
Look folks, this can be a great site for talking HS football, but 'almost there's' comments were way out of line.
I think C'ville can take it all, but its going to be tough and they'll come by it as a team working together. And I'm guessing OS will be working to do the same.
All these boys still have more game to go, and all four teams that have made it this far should enjoy it, be proud, and work hard.
And the rest of us - parents, hard core fans - should keep the spirit going.
And talk strategy, assessments, and just a wee bit of civilized smack!
I think C'ville can take it all, but its going to be tough and they'll come by it as a team working together. And I'm guessing OS will be working to do the same.
All these boys still have more game to go, and all four teams that have made it this far should enjoy it, be proud, and work hard.
And the rest of us - parents, hard core fans - should keep the spirit going.
And talk strategy, assessments, and just a wee bit of civilized smack!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
last bastion of free speech
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:33PM
Hey catdad,
you need to learn to ignore the comments you believe to be "out of line", or respond to them directly (probably not a good idea on this site)
This is FU, some discussion is very good, but free speech is going to allow some things you don't like, and there will be some vulgar, vile stuff as well. Toughen up, man. It's not a good site for kids.
you need to learn to ignore the comments you believe to be "out of line", or respond to them directly (probably not a good idea on this site)
This is FU, some discussion is very good, but free speech is going to allow some things you don't like, and there will be some vulgar, vile stuff as well. Toughen up, man. It's not a good site for kids.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:37PM
Watched the C'Ville - Stonewall game. Stonewall was a classless group. Punks from beginning to end. Talking trash and dirty play.
Darren Woodson, #4, was the worst. Dirty player. Trash talking punk. Couldn’t tackle well, so instead did late hits in the back and going for the knees. Trying to injure other players. Good to see him get beat badly on a long pass in the 2nd. Got ejected in the 4th. Should have been gone by the 2nd. Future hall of famer in the state pen. Refs need to watch this scum in the future, as he's only a junior. Couldn't win, and knew it, so just degraded the game of football instead.
Rashad Johnson, #1, was another punk. Can’t play well, so makes dirty hits instead. Got beat in the 4th for a TD. Both he and #4 missed easy tackles in the 4th letting in another TD. Then unloads on a defenseless player on a kickoff. Backed off tackles so he wouldn’t get hurt. Basic coward. He’s another future jailbird.
However, watched C’Ville players several times help up Stonewall players. Last week one of the C’Ville players acted like a punk. This week was a complete contrast with the Stonewall players.
Hope GameDay picks up on this. Don't need these type of scum in football. Gave up on the NFL due to this crap. Seeing it move down to high school. Need to eject these scum and make it football, not some talking crap. Find out who started the incident and toss them.
Good to see Stonewall gone. Never should have never been in the playoffs. Don’t blame all the players, but the coaches know what their players were like, and these clowns didn’t bench Woodson or Johnson, so good riddance.
Darren Woodson, #4, was the worst. Dirty player. Trash talking punk. Couldn’t tackle well, so instead did late hits in the back and going for the knees. Trying to injure other players. Good to see him get beat badly on a long pass in the 2nd. Got ejected in the 4th. Should have been gone by the 2nd. Future hall of famer in the state pen. Refs need to watch this scum in the future, as he's only a junior. Couldn't win, and knew it, so just degraded the game of football instead.
Rashad Johnson, #1, was another punk. Can’t play well, so makes dirty hits instead. Got beat in the 4th for a TD. Both he and #4 missed easy tackles in the 4th letting in another TD. Then unloads on a defenseless player on a kickoff. Backed off tackles so he wouldn’t get hurt. Basic coward. He’s another future jailbird.
However, watched C’Ville players several times help up Stonewall players. Last week one of the C’Ville players acted like a punk. This week was a complete contrast with the Stonewall players.
Hope GameDay picks up on this. Don't need these type of scum in football. Gave up on the NFL due to this crap. Seeing it move down to high school. Need to eject these scum and make it football, not some talking crap. Find out who started the incident and toss them.
Good to see Stonewall gone. Never should have never been in the playoffs. Don’t blame all the players, but the coaches know what their players were like, and these clowns didn’t bench Woodson or Johnson, so good riddance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757 rules
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:37PM
Those crackers from Westfield or Centerville can't play wit Beach schools........you cant coach speed and quickness.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
??????
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:38PM
Who is going to be the other semifinal game?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
O SMITH PROGRAM
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:40PM
Yes, it is not bring on those (N) it is bring on that college team Oscar Smith with its recruiting program, ability to transfer in all good football players in Southern VA to one school, and lavish gifts for doing it...
Just imagine if NOVA could take its multi team all stars to Charlottesville as well.
Just imagine if NOVA could take its multi team all stars to Charlottesville as well.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:44PM
Been almost 24 hours but Lake Braddock still sux!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
lucky
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:46PM
But Westfield is still lucky you ignoramus.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:50PM
I bet the Braddock players are all over at the Henderson's house - is that Alexandria or Burke I forget - making popcorn balls for the holidays.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:51PM
nat4lee Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here are your state semifinal (region final)
> matchups, with the dates and times to be announced
> Monday morning by the VHSL:
>
> Friday and Saturday, December 6 and 7, 2013
>
> 6A
> Westfield @ Centreville
> Colonial Forge @ Oscar Smith
>
> 5A
> North Stafford @ Briar Woods
> Salem (VB) @ L.C. Bird
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here are your state semifinal (region final)
> matchups, with the dates and times to be announced
> Monday morning by the VHSL:
>
> Friday and Saturday, December 6 and 7, 2013
>
> 6A
> Westfield @ Centreville
> Colonial Forge @ Oscar Smith
>
> 5A
> North Stafford @ Briar Woods
> Salem (VB) @ L.C. Bird
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
O SMITH PROGRAM
()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:55PM
Hey "757 Rules" cannot coach lax transfer rules and blatant recruiting violations either. Karma will catch up one of these days, just like it did for Ocean Lakes and Phoebus and Lake Taylor.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Phoebe from Buckroe
()
Date: December 01, 2013 03:31PM
Isn't Phoebus an all white school?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 01, 2013 03:53PM
Seriously, just stop talking about illegal transfers. I seriously think, for the most part, the VHSL has done a very good job about it.
Centreville should win pretty easily this Saturday. Key word: "should". Lake Braddock "should" have beaten Westfield, but a couple of crazy plays, and Westfield wound up with the win. I think Westfield played a really good fourth quarter, and Braddock not so much. But Centreville is a whole different matter. They got Tyler Love back this week on defense and held Stroman in check for most of the game, although he did break a run or two. I personally think this game will not be much different from the first one, especially if Thrasher-Walker is out. If Westfield hangs within a touchdown into the second half, though, watch out.
Centreville should win pretty easily this Saturday. Key word: "should". Lake Braddock "should" have beaten Westfield, but a couple of crazy plays, and Westfield wound up with the win. I think Westfield played a really good fourth quarter, and Braddock not so much. But Centreville is a whole different matter. They got Tyler Love back this week on defense and held Stroman in check for most of the game, although he did break a run or two. I personally think this game will not be much different from the first one, especially if Thrasher-Walker is out. If Westfield hangs within a touchdown into the second half, though, watch out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
if they cheat then...
()
Date: December 01, 2013 04:13PM
I have friends down in Tidewater who laugh all the time about how schools like Oscar Smith get around the rules and bring in players.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hot cocoa by the fireplace
()
Date: December 01, 2013 04:18PM
Haha the team is ACTUALLY at Hendos they
are stamping rolls of toilet paper
with Jerry Pannonis face
to give to the community for
stocking stuffers. You should
come by its a great time!
are stamping rolls of toilet paper
with Jerry Pannonis face
to give to the community for
stocking stuffers. You should
come by its a great time!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: December 01, 2013 04:45PM
We Are Westfield!!! *bang*bang*bang-bang-bang* We Are Westfield!!! *bang*bang*bang-bang-bang* last time we played Cville in the northern region title game the team that lost in the regular season won...Karma is out to get you Cville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan 2
()
Date: December 01, 2013 05:11PM
Anyone know any other blogs focused on northern region football Xs and Os?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan 176
()
Date: December 01, 2013 05:15PM
CPT Morgan, I am no fan of either Centreville or Westfield but I suggest you really pray for karma since Westfield is not nearly as good as Centreville this year. The way I remember 2011 was two evenly matched teams, perhaps Centreville even a bit better, but Centreville lost first game on suspicious fumble at end even though player's knee down. Their winning second game was based on being a bit better than Westfield. This year unfortunately for Westfield fans they are not nearly as talented as Centreville especially if Thrasher-Walker is nicked up. Just saying to keep it real.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
N-LIGHT-'ND
()
Date: December 01, 2013 05:17PM
Yeah hears one "Gerry Panoni, so close
but never gets it"
but never gets it"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Retard
()
Date: December 01, 2013 05:17PM
Ignorant fool!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 01, 2013 06:34PM
The Kicker Wrote:
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> Seriously, just stop talking about illegal
> transfers. I seriously think, for the most part,
> the VHSL has done a very good job about it.
>
> Centreville should win pretty easily this
> Saturday. Key word: "should". Lake Braddock
> "should" have beaten Westfield, but a couple of
> crazy plays, and Westfield wound up with the win.
> I think Westfield played a really good fourth
> quarter, and Braddock not so much. But Centreville
> is a whole different matter. They got Tyler Love
> back this week on defense and held Stroman in
> check for most of the game, although he did break
> a run or two. I personally think this game will
> not be much different from the first one,
> especially if Thrasher-Walker is out. If Westfield
> hangs within a touchdown into the second half,
> though, watch out.
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Agree about the chatter re transfers. It's been cleaned up via changes to VHSL rules, Chesapeake's handbook for athletes, etc. Last year, Lake Taylor titled in D5 and OLakes almost beat Bird in D6 at UVA. OSmith was sitting at home. Anybody who says that Andrew Brown or any other Smith player is illegal should just report the violation using the district's anonymous web form for reporting out-of-zone illegals. It's THAT easy. Otherwise, play football. D6 teams here have won more titles anyway.
Like you, I expect the North final to be a good game and its battle-tested champ to be a tough draw no matter which team reps the South.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2013 06:35PM by EasternVaFan.
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> Seriously, just stop talking about illegal
> transfers. I seriously think, for the most part,
> the VHSL has done a very good job about it.
>
> Centreville should win pretty easily this
> Saturday. Key word: "should". Lake Braddock
> "should" have beaten Westfield, but a couple of
> crazy plays, and Westfield wound up with the win.
> I think Westfield played a really good fourth
> quarter, and Braddock not so much. But Centreville
> is a whole different matter. They got Tyler Love
> back this week on defense and held Stroman in
> check for most of the game, although he did break
> a run or two. I personally think this game will
> not be much different from the first one,
> especially if Thrasher-Walker is out. If Westfield
> hangs within a touchdown into the second half,
> though, watch out.
--------
Agree about the chatter re transfers. It's been cleaned up via changes to VHSL rules, Chesapeake's handbook for athletes, etc. Last year, Lake Taylor titled in D5 and OLakes almost beat Bird in D6 at UVA. OSmith was sitting at home. Anybody who says that Andrew Brown or any other Smith player is illegal should just report the violation using the district's anonymous web form for reporting out-of-zone illegals. It's THAT easy. Otherwise, play football. D6 teams here have won more titles anyway.
Like you, I expect the North final to be a good game and its battle-tested champ to be a tough draw no matter which team reps the South.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2013 06:35PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 01, 2013 06:36PM
Fan 176 Wrote:
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> Their winning second game was based on
> being a bit better than Westfield.
Incorrect. Largely a result of a series of big time bad calls in critical situations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
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> Their winning second game was based on
> being a bit better than Westfield.
Incorrect. Largely a result of a series of big time bad calls in critical situations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_fP64-lt4
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
S Jackson
()
Date: December 01, 2013 06:57PM
Stonewall Jackson was a bunch of ghetto, running their mouth types players...very poor sportsmanship......I'm glad they got whupped!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wildcat
()
Date: December 01, 2013 07:24PM
Question: What is the rule for marking off multiple flags during the same play? During the Cville and SJ game, 30 yards were marked off for waht I assumed were two PFs. Can someone shed some light on the rule?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jim Feist
()
Date: December 01, 2013 08:06PM
What is the point spread for the game this week? I need to make some money so I can buy some Christmas presents.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 01, 2013 08:21PM
I actually believe Centreville was the better team in 2011. But the teams were so closely matched that a series of bad playcalls, bad refereeing, and a little bit of luck won each game. Each game could have easily gone both ways.
But, as I think we know, the gap between Cville and Wfield is that much wider. Westfield has had its struggles on offense, and if Thrasher-Walker is banged up, it certainly doesn't help that. Centreville's defense should be just as good as it was last time they played. Not saying the upset can't happen, it certainly happened yesterday. But the chance of it, even with those injured players from last time back in, are pretty slim.
I'm predicting a 31-14 Centreville win.
Here's hoping I'm wrong about that and we get a great game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2013 08:22PM by The Kicker.
But, as I think we know, the gap between Cville and Wfield is that much wider. Westfield has had its struggles on offense, and if Thrasher-Walker is banged up, it certainly doesn't help that. Centreville's defense should be just as good as it was last time they played. Not saying the upset can't happen, it certainly happened yesterday. But the chance of it, even with those injured players from last time back in, are pretty slim.
I'm predicting a 31-14 Centreville win.
Here's hoping I'm wrong about that and we get a great game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2013 08:22PM by The Kicker.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: December 01, 2013 08:32PM
Thanks, newgatedenizen,
Video seems obviously done by a Westfield fan, but clearly shows Centreville was playing better. The ‘bad calls’ excuse is pretty old now. Roughing the kicker was due to Westfield players running into the punter. Pretty clear, even without slow motion (unless you are biased). The refs blew the whistle for forward progress on the ‘fumble.’ That’s what they are trained to do. After the whistle the play is dead. Just the way the football bounces. Sometimes ‘forward progress’ works for you, sometimes it doesn’t. Can’t tell if the catch was off the ground or not. If you can, you’ve got great eyesight and should be flying jets off a carrier.
Key for the current game, is Walker injured? If so, how will Westfield generate the offense it needs? Do they loosen up and try to pass more? Do they switch to ‘trick’ plays? I heard a rumor that Westfield shifted to a wildcat or changed their game plan after Walker was injured. Any word on that?
Video seems obviously done by a Westfield fan, but clearly shows Centreville was playing better. The ‘bad calls’ excuse is pretty old now. Roughing the kicker was due to Westfield players running into the punter. Pretty clear, even without slow motion (unless you are biased). The refs blew the whistle for forward progress on the ‘fumble.’ That’s what they are trained to do. After the whistle the play is dead. Just the way the football bounces. Sometimes ‘forward progress’ works for you, sometimes it doesn’t. Can’t tell if the catch was off the ground or not. If you can, you’ve got great eyesight and should be flying jets off a carrier.
Key for the current game, is Walker injured? If so, how will Westfield generate the offense it needs? Do they loosen up and try to pass more? Do they switch to ‘trick’ plays? I heard a rumor that Westfield shifted to a wildcat or changed their game plan after Walker was injured. Any word on that?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 01, 2013 11:34PM
Viking Wrote:
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> Thanks, newgatedenizen,
>
> Video seems obviously done by a Westfield fan,
Video and commentary by RHS Productions. If you had read the comments you would see he answered the same criticism:
"I'm a member of the press---no affiliation to either WF or CV"
> Can’t tell if the catch was off the ground or
> not. If you can, you’ve got great eyesight and
> should be flying jets off a carrier.
That was a most obvious bounce pass. A badly botched call.
I only dredge up the bad calls when the Centreville backers mindlessly troll about how much better 2011 C'ville was the 2011 WF.
Attachments:
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> Thanks, newgatedenizen,
>
> Video seems obviously done by a Westfield fan,
Video and commentary by RHS Productions. If you had read the comments you would see he answered the same criticism:
"I'm a member of the press---no affiliation to either WF or CV"
> Can’t tell if the catch was off the ground or
> not. If you can, you’ve got great eyesight and
> should be flying jets off a carrier.
That was a most obvious bounce pass. A badly botched call.
I only dredge up the bad calls when the Centreville backers mindlessly troll about how much better 2011 C'ville was the 2011 WF.
Attachments:
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
reality cheque
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:55AM
Sorry this is not your 2007 Westfield anymore whiner. Losing big playoff games two years in a row at home, stumbling in this year as Lake Braddock fell apart. Boo hoo...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:14AM
Lake Braddock still sux even after 2 days
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KeepitReal
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:00AM
The second back for WF actually proved to be a great option as he hit the hole faster. He had over 150 yard in just over a half. I could take a side but its simple, you have to play 4 quarters. That low fg kick was the turning point, but LB had a chance to make the tackle on the long turnover return. I talked to several people on the LB fence, the WF player did step out of bounds, but LB still could have sustained a drive to run the clock out. WF stopped any offense and had a great drive themselves for a score. There's no doubt after watching that game, neither team is good enough to beat Cville. LB would match up better against Cville but just doesn't have enough playmakers. Vince Sica #10 made Hendo look good. Funny Hendo is going to UNC for QB, but Hendo dad ran the majority of the time in the game. I saw several receivers open and Hendo failed to see them and go through his progressions. NO doubt Daddy Hendo covered his sons weaknesses by running the ball.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Sufferbitchsuffer
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:25AM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Viking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks, newgatedenizen,
> >
> > Video seems obviously done by a Westfield fan,
>
> Video and commentary by RHS Productions. If you
> had read the comments you would see he answered
> the same criticism:
>
> "I'm a member of the press---no affiliation to
> either WF or CV"
>
>
> > Can’t tell if the catch was off the ground
> or
> > not. If you can, you’ve got great eyesight
> and
> > should be flying jets off a carrier.
>
> That was a most obvious bounce pass. A badly
> botched call.
>
> I only dredge up the bad calls when the
> Centreville backers mindlessly troll about how
> much better 2011 C'ville was the 2011 WF.
You have no idea how good it makes me feel to have a Westfield fan still lamenting our win against them in 2011. Keep suffering and digging up YouTube videos and pictures from the game, unless you have them in files that you still refer to. Nothing will change the fact that Centreville beat you that day and Oakton beat you last year. This year we get to beat you on our field!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Viking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks, newgatedenizen,
> >
> > Video seems obviously done by a Westfield fan,
>
> Video and commentary by RHS Productions. If you
> had read the comments you would see he answered
> the same criticism:
>
> "I'm a member of the press---no affiliation to
> either WF or CV"
>
>
> > Can’t tell if the catch was off the ground
> or
> > not. If you can, you’ve got great eyesight
> and
> > should be flying jets off a carrier.
>
> That was a most obvious bounce pass. A badly
> botched call.
>
> I only dredge up the bad calls when the
> Centreville backers mindlessly troll about how
> much better 2011 C'ville was the 2011 WF.
You have no idea how good it makes me feel to have a Westfield fan still lamenting our win against them in 2011. Keep suffering and digging up YouTube videos and pictures from the game, unless you have them in files that you still refer to. Nothing will change the fact that Centreville beat you that day and Oakton beat you last year. This year we get to beat you on our field!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
reality cheque
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:59AM
You mean beat Westfield TWICE this year on our field. Once we win this week we will have won 3 of last four against the pompous Bulldogs and then next year with Turner, Boose, Tutt back and Thrasher-Walker and Burns gone shall I say 4 out of 5? Yes I shall! Reminisce sweet baby, reminisce but the trend has turned...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 02, 2013 10:03AM
Go Wildcats beat those lucky dogs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 02, 2013 10:06AM
I watched the Lake Braddock and Westfield game. Only thing Westfield did was run the ball some against a suspect Lake Braddock defense. We all know they cannot do the same against Centreville. Beyond that Lake Braddock gave the game away. Westfield, enjoy your good fortune but the end is near.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 02, 2013 11:29AM
KeepitReal Wrote:
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> The second back for WF actually proved to be a
> great option as he hit the hole faster. He had
> over 150 yard in just over a half.
I have thought all year that #28 was every bit as good if not a better back than #22 - did not understand why he was not used more other than not a senior.
> There's no doubt
> after watching that game, neither team is good
> enough to beat Cville. LB would match up better
> against Cville but just doesn't have enough
> playmakers.
I agree - it will take a perfect game accompanied by Centreville blunders for WF to win. But that's why they play the game.
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> The second back for WF actually proved to be a
> great option as he hit the hole faster. He had
> over 150 yard in just over a half.
I have thought all year that #28 was every bit as good if not a better back than #22 - did not understand why he was not used more other than not a senior.
> There's no doubt
> after watching that game, neither team is good
> enough to beat Cville. LB would match up better
> against Cville but just doesn't have enough
> playmakers.
I agree - it will take a perfect game accompanied by Centreville blunders for WF to win. But that's why they play the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 02, 2013 11:45AM
reality cheque Wrote:
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> You mean beat Westfield TWICE this year on our
> field. Once we win this week we will have won 3
> of last four against the pompous Bulldogs and then
> next year with Turner, Boose, Tutt back and
> Thrasher-Walker and Burns gone shall I say 4 out
> of 5? Yes I shall! Reminisce sweet baby,
> reminisce but the trend has turned...
Man, if you read the last couple years worth of HS football threads it's the Centreville fans that are pompous - insufferably arrogant, mouthy and full of taunting. Don't really see that from Westfield backers. Most of them act like they have actually been there before. But hey - I say congratulations to the Wildcats! If they win vs. WF I will be rooting for them vs. OS.
-------------------------------------------------------
> You mean beat Westfield TWICE this year on our
> field. Once we win this week we will have won 3
> of last four against the pompous Bulldogs and then
> next year with Turner, Boose, Tutt back and
> Thrasher-Walker and Burns gone shall I say 4 out
> of 5? Yes I shall! Reminisce sweet baby,
> reminisce but the trend has turned...
Man, if you read the last couple years worth of HS football threads it's the Centreville fans that are pompous - insufferably arrogant, mouthy and full of taunting. Don't really see that from Westfield backers. Most of them act like they have actually been there before. But hey - I say congratulations to the Wildcats! If they win vs. WF I will be rooting for them vs. OS.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wrong Westfield wrong
()
Date: December 02, 2013 12:01PM
I disagree with that opinion. The entitlement attitude that Westfield fans have shown for years is very clear to outsiders. Things change though and they are not nearly the football squad from the mid 2000s.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 02, 2013 12:02PM
Here are the announced game times for next weekend... enjoy!
Playoffs -- Region Finals (State Semifinals)
Saturday, December 7, 2013
Class 6A
North -- #3 Westfield (11-2) at #1 Centreville (13-0) in Clifton at 1:30 p.m.
South -- #3 Colonial Forge (10-3) at #1 Oscar Smith (13-0) in Chesapeake at 1:30 p.m.
Class 5A
North -- #5 North Stafford (11-2) at #3 Briar Woods (12-1) in Ashburn at 1:30 p.m.
South -- #1 Salem (11-2) at #1 L.C. Bird (13-0) in Chesterfield at 2:00 p.m.
Playoffs -- Region Finals (State Semifinals)
Saturday, December 7, 2013
Class 6A
North -- #3 Westfield (11-2) at #1 Centreville (13-0) in Clifton at 1:30 p.m.
South -- #3 Colonial Forge (10-3) at #1 Oscar Smith (13-0) in Chesapeake at 1:30 p.m.
Class 5A
North -- #5 North Stafford (11-2) at #3 Briar Woods (12-1) in Ashburn at 1:30 p.m.
South -- #1 Salem (11-2) at #1 L.C. Bird (13-0) in Chesterfield at 2:00 p.m.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
reality cheque
()
Date: December 02, 2013 12:03PM
Agree with the Westfield sense of entitlement. Sorry things are a changing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Novafballlfan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 12:58PM
wrong Westfield wrong Wrote:
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> I disagree with that opinion. The entitlement
> attitude that Westfield fans have shown for years
> is very clear to outsiders. Things change though
> and they are not nearly the football squad from
> the mid 2000s.
It was brought up here before the last Centreville vs. Westfield game BUT worth saying again. Westfield last year ran the score up on Centreville at the end of the game. Centreville players have not forgotten that and will be bringing alot of attitude/motivation to this game along with alot of talent. Westfield will get embarrassed Saturday as Centreville is going to dominate them AGAIN. I doubt Haddock will run the score up like Simmons did, but the starters may stay in a little longer than normal in a beat down. Just remember Bulldog fans you brought this on yourself when Simmons ran the score up, something Verbanic would never have done.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I disagree with that opinion. The entitlement
> attitude that Westfield fans have shown for years
> is very clear to outsiders. Things change though
> and they are not nearly the football squad from
> the mid 2000s.
It was brought up here before the last Centreville vs. Westfield game BUT worth saying again. Westfield last year ran the score up on Centreville at the end of the game. Centreville players have not forgotten that and will be bringing alot of attitude/motivation to this game along with alot of talent. Westfield will get embarrassed Saturday as Centreville is going to dominate them AGAIN. I doubt Haddock will run the score up like Simmons did, but the starters may stay in a little longer than normal in a beat down. Just remember Bulldog fans you brought this on yourself when Simmons ran the score up, something Verbanic would never have done.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wildcats state champs 13
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:12PM
Since Centreville is the top program in the state hands down, the question remains...is haddock the best coach in the history of northern virginia?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hold on
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:19PM
I must say that Centreville will put a hurting on Westfield but will have a real game to play against Oscar Smith which recruits like a college team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
can we stop
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:23PM
wildcats state champs 13 Wrote:
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> Since Centreville is the top program in the state
> hands down, the question remains...is haddock the
> best coach in the history of northern virginia?
What makes you think this?
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> Since Centreville is the top program in the state
> hands down, the question remains...is haddock the
> best coach in the history of northern virginia?
What makes you think this?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcats state champs
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:26PM
Ok, Centreville was 1-9 before haddock took over, has immediately won He coaches with class and has great schemes on both sides of the ball. they have DOMINATED everyone they have played, and will win the state championship this year undefeated. What has your coach done? is there any other coach that's ever dominated like this without recruiting?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ditka fan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:28PM
Haddock > Ditka
Da Wildcats....
Da Wildcats....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ditka fan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:30PM
Figured that Oscar Smith ran a suspect program, understand there a few other Hampton Roads teams doing the same.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
a point to remember
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:32PM
hey wildcats state champs also remember, haddock and staff also won at fairfax. fairfax has NO talent, the staff does it better then most and coaches with an old school, no nonsense mentality.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
....
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:35PM
Wildcats state champs Wrote:
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> Ok, Centreville was 1-9 before haddock took over,
> has immediately won He coaches with class and has
> great schemes on both sides of the ball. they have
> DOMINATED everyone they have played, and will win
> the state championship this year undefeated. What
> has your coach done? is there any other coach
> that's ever dominated like this without
> recruiting?
That's because they all were under Pannonia schedule while developing
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> Ok, Centreville was 1-9 before haddock took over,
> has immediately won He coaches with class and has
> great schemes on both sides of the ball. they have
> DOMINATED everyone they have played, and will win
> the state championship this year undefeated. What
> has your coach done? is there any other coach
> that's ever dominated like this without
> recruiting?
That's because they all were under Pannonia schedule while developing
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ditka fan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:40PM
1000 fire breathing gargantuan demonoids from the planet Arbos vs. Haddock.
Haddock.
Da Wildcats...
Haddock.
Da Wildcats...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:41PM
Wildcats state champs Wrote:
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> Ok, Centreville was 1-9 before haddock took over,
> has immediately won He coaches with class and has
> great schemes on both sides of the ball. they have
> DOMINATED everyone they have played, and will win
> the state championship this year undefeated. What
> has your coach done? is there any other coach
> that's ever dominated like this without
> recruiting?
Haddock has done great, very classy guy, but as a Cville resident I can tell you that Pannoni never quite had the talent (and team speed) that Haddock has had either. But Haddock deserves all the credit no doubt.
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> Ok, Centreville was 1-9 before haddock took over,
> has immediately won He coaches with class and has
> great schemes on both sides of the ball. they have
> DOMINATED everyone they have played, and will win
> the state championship this year undefeated. What
> has your coach done? is there any other coach
> that's ever dominated like this without
> recruiting?
Haddock has done great, very classy guy, but as a Cville resident I can tell you that Pannoni never quite had the talent (and team speed) that Haddock has had either. But Haddock deserves all the credit no doubt.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:41PM
wildcats state champs 13 Wrote:
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> Since Centreville is the top program in the state
> hands down, the question remains...is haddock the
> best coach in the history of northern virginia?
Before you make a fool of yourself, realize that football has been played by high school teams in Virginia since 1920. THAT'S 93 YEARS! I can name several coaches who have done more for their schools, their communities, desegregation, and coaches who have changed the very way the game is played and perceived down to the X's and O's. Read your history, visit a museum, hell watch "Remember the Titans" if you want. Don't make a fool of yourself with that kind of a statement.
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> Since Centreville is the top program in the state
> hands down, the question remains...is haddock the
> best coach in the history of northern virginia?
Before you make a fool of yourself, realize that football has been played by high school teams in Virginia since 1920. THAT'S 93 YEARS! I can name several coaches who have done more for their schools, their communities, desegregation, and coaches who have changed the very way the game is played and perceived down to the X's and O's. Read your history, visit a museum, hell watch "Remember the Titans" if you want. Don't make a fool of yourself with that kind of a statement.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ditka fan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:43PM
All current and former Northern Region coaches vs. Haddock in a steel cage match.
Haddock.
Da Wildcats...
Haddock.
Da Wildcats...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 01:49PM
Would have liked to see Centreville beat Henderson from West Potomac (nope sorry Lake Braddock) but we all know what happened along the way!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 02:08PM
I hate lake braddock. I also hate west Potomac. Also Henderson. The reason I hate Henderson is because I wanted to date him and show him my man love. He refused and it made me sad. Now I need to cheat on my wife elsewhere. I don't know football. Never have.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 02:11PM
Sorry that one of the Braddock cheerleaders just used my namesake. Braddock still sux.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
not even close
()
Date: December 02, 2013 02:13PM
Tom Verbanic
Mickey Thompson
Mark Bendorf
Francis Dall
Danny Meir
Bill Renner
Ed Henry
Dick Adams
Frank Crennetti
He's not even close to this group. It takes more then an unusual rash of talent, and a conservative game plan to get into this club. No chance.
Mickey Thompson
Mark Bendorf
Francis Dall
Danny Meir
Bill Renner
Ed Henry
Dick Adams
Frank Crennetti
He's not even close to this group. It takes more then an unusual rash of talent, and a conservative game plan to get into this club. No chance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Go Cats!!
()
Date: December 02, 2013 02:26PM
Novafballlfan Wrote:
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> wrong Westfield wrong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I disagree with that opinion. The entitlement
> > attitude that Westfield fans have shown for
> years
> > is very clear to outsiders. Things change
> though
> > and they are not nearly the football squad from
> > the mid 2000s.
>
>
> It was brought up here before the last Centreville
> vs. Westfield game BUT worth saying again.
> Westfield last year ran the score up on
> Centreville at the end of the game. Centreville
> players have not forgotten that and will be
> bringing alot of attitude/motivation to this game
> along with alot of talent. Westfield will get
> embarrassed Saturday as Centreville is going to
> dominate them AGAIN. I doubt Haddock will run the
> score up like Simmons did, but the starters may
> stay in a little longer than normal in a beat
> down. Just remember Bulldog fans you brought this
> on yourself when Simmons ran the score up,
> something Verbanic would never have done.
I am a big CVille fan and there is the distinct possibility that CVille could win handily but let us not believe for one second that Westfield is going to hand the win to us. SC and SJ put a scare into CVille in the first half and even into the second. WF have not given up 30+ points in a game all year. Their defense is solid. With the weather of the first game, not sure if that favored CVille or WF.
While many would have prefered to play Braddock, I think we match up much better with WF but if we have issues like a couple of other games, we could be in for a rough ride
Also, don't forgot, this is the game Westfield was striving to get to the past two seasons. If anyone thinks this is a down year for them, they are playing at least one more game than last year.
My negative on WF. I was at the CVille game but I saw the replay of the LB/WF game and the WF fan attendance was piss-poor. Some set of fans they have! The Stonewall Jackson fan base at CVille put them to shame.
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> wrong Westfield wrong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I disagree with that opinion. The entitlement
> > attitude that Westfield fans have shown for
> years
> > is very clear to outsiders. Things change
> though
> > and they are not nearly the football squad from
> > the mid 2000s.
>
>
> It was brought up here before the last Centreville
> vs. Westfield game BUT worth saying again.
> Westfield last year ran the score up on
> Centreville at the end of the game. Centreville
> players have not forgotten that and will be
> bringing alot of attitude/motivation to this game
> along with alot of talent. Westfield will get
> embarrassed Saturday as Centreville is going to
> dominate them AGAIN. I doubt Haddock will run the
> score up like Simmons did, but the starters may
> stay in a little longer than normal in a beat
> down. Just remember Bulldog fans you brought this
> on yourself when Simmons ran the score up,
> something Verbanic would never have done.
I am a big CVille fan and there is the distinct possibility that CVille could win handily but let us not believe for one second that Westfield is going to hand the win to us. SC and SJ put a scare into CVille in the first half and even into the second. WF have not given up 30+ points in a game all year. Their defense is solid. With the weather of the first game, not sure if that favored CVille or WF.
While many would have prefered to play Braddock, I think we match up much better with WF but if we have issues like a couple of other games, we could be in for a rough ride
Also, don't forgot, this is the game Westfield was striving to get to the past two seasons. If anyone thinks this is a down year for them, they are playing at least one more game than last year.
My negative on WF. I was at the CVille game but I saw the replay of the LB/WF game and the WF fan attendance was piss-poor. Some set of fans they have! The Stonewall Jackson fan base at CVille put them to shame.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 02:28PM
Because the Westfield fans know they do not have a team this year - that is why they did not show up.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 02, 2013 02:36PM
wildcats state champs 13 Wrote:
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> Since Centreville is the top program in the state
> hands down
"If" Centreville gets by Westfield, and even as a Cville resident and CVHS fan, that's an emphatic "if"... they will have a monumental task against Oscar Smith, who will be a heavy favorite.
Here's the picture, on paper:
Oscar Smith ranked nationally #10 by USA Today:
http://www.usatodayhss.com/super25/rankings/2013/boys/varsity/football/
Oscar Smith's best players:
Andrew Brown, DT (6-3 298), 5-star recruit ranked #8 HS player in the country and the #1 DT, UVa signee:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3235
Jaylen Bradshaw, WR, 2-star recruit, Conference offensive player of the year, Va Tech signee.
DaShawn McClease, RB, Junior, ranked in top 150 nationally, already offers from VT, UNC, and others.
I doubt that Cville has ever seen anyone in NoVa as good as these three players at their positions.
Let's not forget Shon Mitchell, a freshman, who is their starting QB. You may think "oh, a freshman, he'll choke in the big game". Well, Oscar Smith was on national TV (ESPNU) their first game this year, and Mitchell (obviously his first HS start) threw three TD passes. By the way he was first team all-conference.
It will take a team effort and the game of his life from Scott Walter since he'll have to win it with his arm. They won't be able to run much and won't have much time to throw. They can win with the perfect game, but nothing less.
The 2011 game between the two was a complete mismatch, but Walter is a big upgrade from the 2011 QB, and Cville has more team speed this year with Turner, Tutt etc.
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> Since Centreville is the top program in the state
> hands down
"If" Centreville gets by Westfield, and even as a Cville resident and CVHS fan, that's an emphatic "if"... they will have a monumental task against Oscar Smith, who will be a heavy favorite.
Here's the picture, on paper:
Oscar Smith ranked nationally #10 by USA Today:
http://www.usatodayhss.com/super25/rankings/2013/boys/varsity/football/
Oscar Smith's best players:
Andrew Brown, DT (6-3 298), 5-star recruit ranked #8 HS player in the country and the #1 DT, UVa signee:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3235
Jaylen Bradshaw, WR, 2-star recruit, Conference offensive player of the year, Va Tech signee.
DaShawn McClease, RB, Junior, ranked in top 150 nationally, already offers from VT, UNC, and others.
I doubt that Cville has ever seen anyone in NoVa as good as these three players at their positions.
Let's not forget Shon Mitchell, a freshman, who is their starting QB. You may think "oh, a freshman, he'll choke in the big game". Well, Oscar Smith was on national TV (ESPNU) their first game this year, and Mitchell (obviously his first HS start) threw three TD passes. By the way he was first team all-conference.
It will take a team effort and the game of his life from Scott Walter since he'll have to win it with his arm. They won't be able to run much and won't have much time to throw. They can win with the perfect game, but nothing less.
The 2011 game between the two was a complete mismatch, but Walter is a big upgrade from the 2011 QB, and Cville has more team speed this year with Turner, Tutt etc.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
funny isnt it
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:00PM
How does all that talent reside in one school district, funny isn't it?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
agree with ya
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:11PM
yep we should run a study of the amazing birth and growth rates of kids in one school district....good job Oscar Smith you hit the genetic jackpot apparently.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OSCAR SMITHHHHHHH
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:16PM
We win anyway we have to man, win Smith win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:23PM
I don't want to look past the WF game either, and I certainly know that any Cville game against OS will be hard, but....
While VTboy may preach the wonders of the OS team, from my perspective I have a hard time admiring a team whose regular season consists of only two games against Div 6 teams, three games against Div 5 teams and five games against Div 4 teams!
And no wonder the freshman QB did a miraculous job on TV in his first game - heck it was against Lake Taylor a Div 4 team.
While VTboy may preach the wonders of the OS team, from my perspective I have a hard time admiring a team whose regular season consists of only two games against Div 6 teams, three games against Div 5 teams and five games against Div 4 teams!
And no wonder the freshman QB did a miraculous job on TV in his first game - heck it was against Lake Taylor a Div 4 team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
7577
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:24PM
Live in Chesapeake. This oscar smith team is young and not even close to what they usually are. undisciplined, street, and maybe not even the best team down here? Ocean lakes was upset last week, but was the #1 team in the state for most of the season.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:27PM
"How does all that talent reside in one school district, funny isn't it?"
I will use the Concorde district as an example since they are the last two teams in the 6A North still standing. It would be nice to find out how many kids in the Concorde were living in the Concorde district while in junior high school. The only reason why I say this is there are transfers that happen up here just as down in the 6A South but legally, by moving. I'll use Devon Burns for Westfield and Chad Wiggins for Centreville as an example. I believe they both transferred into their respective schools after their sophomore seasons. Parent's moved into the respective school district so their kids could play ball instead of staying in South Riding. I'm sure it happens more than most people think especially in the Concorde. If you had a son who was a good football player and had a shot at playing at the next level, why stay somewhere that has a horrible team and history? I'll use Freedom in South Riding as an example.
I will use the Concorde district as an example since they are the last two teams in the 6A North still standing. It would be nice to find out how many kids in the Concorde were living in the Concorde district while in junior high school. The only reason why I say this is there are transfers that happen up here just as down in the 6A South but legally, by moving. I'll use Devon Burns for Westfield and Chad Wiggins for Centreville as an example. I believe they both transferred into their respective schools after their sophomore seasons. Parent's moved into the respective school district so their kids could play ball instead of staying in South Riding. I'm sure it happens more than most people think especially in the Concorde. If you had a son who was a good football player and had a shot at playing at the next level, why stay somewhere that has a horrible team and history? I'll use Freedom in South Riding as an example.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OScar SMith
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:45PM
We cheat you lose.
You complain we cruise.
You complain we cruise.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 02, 2013 03:48PM
CatDad Wrote:
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> I don't want to look past the WF game either, and
> I certainly know that any Cville game against OS
> will be hard, but....
>
> While VTboy may preach the wonders of the OS team,
> from my perspective I have a hard time admiring a
> team whose regular season consists of only two
> games against Div 6 teams, three games against Div
> 5 teams and five games against Div 4 teams!
>
> And no wonder the freshman QB did a miraculous job
> on TV in his first game - heck it was against Lake
> Taylor a Div 4 team.
Good points CatDad, but I was not referring to their won-loss record as much as the college-level quality of those three players. And I wouldn't discount a team simply because they are Div 4. Lake Taylor is ranked 26th in the state, and only lost to LC Bird by 7, who are defending 6A State champs and will most likely win 5A State Title this year. The separation between classifications in Virginia is not nearly as distinct as say between NCAA divisions.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I don't want to look past the WF game either, and
> I certainly know that any Cville game against OS
> will be hard, but....
>
> While VTboy may preach the wonders of the OS team,
> from my perspective I have a hard time admiring a
> team whose regular season consists of only two
> games against Div 6 teams, three games against Div
> 5 teams and five games against Div 4 teams!
>
> And no wonder the freshman QB did a miraculous job
> on TV in his first game - heck it was against Lake
> Taylor a Div 4 team.
Good points CatDad, but I was not referring to their won-loss record as much as the college-level quality of those three players. And I wouldn't discount a team simply because they are Div 4. Lake Taylor is ranked 26th in the state, and only lost to LC Bird by 7, who are defending 6A State champs and will most likely win 5A State Title this year. The separation between classifications in Virginia is not nearly as distinct as say between NCAA divisions.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: December 02, 2013 04:13PM
True VTboy, and I'd hate to take anything away from any of the non-Div6 schools.
Yet, I believe the make up of the Northern Region playoff landscape would look a heck of a lot different if the Div 6 teams up here had the regular season schedule OS had.
And if OS is routinely either unbeaten or close to it, then why wouldn't a parent try to get their good player into OS? That's a lot of automatic college attention.
There are plenty of Div6 teams in nearby Virginia Beach and Norfolk. Limit the number of non Div 6 team opponents in a schedule and I suspect the transfers/recruiting/genetics allegations will slowly fade away.
Yet, I believe the make up of the Northern Region playoff landscape would look a heck of a lot different if the Div 6 teams up here had the regular season schedule OS had.
And if OS is routinely either unbeaten or close to it, then why wouldn't a parent try to get their good player into OS? That's a lot of automatic college attention.
There are plenty of Div6 teams in nearby Virginia Beach and Norfolk. Limit the number of non Div 6 team opponents in a schedule and I suspect the transfers/recruiting/genetics allegations will slowly fade away.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
collapse
()
Date: December 02, 2013 04:28PM
I saw the Lake Braddock game.....what a total collapse!...All they had to do was run the ball and whittle the clock down, but they totally lost their composure. A few running plays at the 5 minute mark, punt it and make Westfield go the length of the field, down two scores with just a few minutes to play.........again, total collapse!.........they don't deserve to move on, and thay aren't.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 04:50PM
Collapse came because Braddock sux
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concorde longtime
()
Date: December 02, 2013 05:57PM
I can't comment on how good a coach Haddock is, but given the talent he has had to play with this year, it would be hard to imagine how his team would not win as much as they have. True, he had to harness it, and with his staff, put together a system, but when you have his thoroughbreds, it's not difficult to see why his team is where it is.
Now if he could have taken this year's Chantilly or Oakton teams to the 6A north finals (given the uneven talent those schools had this year) that would have been impressive!
What's that old line that people used to say about Bear Bryant? ""He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n"
Now if he could have taken this year's Chantilly or Oakton teams to the 6A north finals (given the uneven talent those schools had this year) that would have been impressive!
What's that old line that people used to say about Bear Bryant? ""He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
7619run
()
Date: December 02, 2013 06:35PM
Maybe Alabama needed Bear Bryant Saturday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
classless
()
Date: December 02, 2013 06:53PM
Lake Braddock managed to be one of the least classy teams this season. Even with an undefeated record they still managed to talk as much shit as possible. I think it's funny how on twitter Caleb Henderson is being called a "class act" for a note of apology and condolences he wrote after the WF game. Everyone at that moment seemed to have turned a blind eye to all the shitty behavior shown through out the entire Braddock season by their QB, as well as their entire team...I saw players leaving the field before the game had even ended, even leaving their pads on the field. It's understandable being upset after such a big loss, but last time I checked you win and lose as a team. Another disappointment was the lack of humbleness and sportsmanship shown by this team...it's a shame. Sure shows how their team was just a bunch of "individuals", Henderson being the biggest one, minus the facade he consistently puts on for the media and public. Not trying to instigate anything, just my honest take on what I have observed. Hey, not to say all of LB's players are assholes, I'm sure most are good teammates. But a team is a unit...can't be half in and half out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
gingerboy
()
Date: December 02, 2013 06:55PM
hey man can't we all just get along
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 06:57PM
Lake Braddock sux and Henderson sux the most. Good luck at UNC you pompous fool.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
gingerboy
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:02PM
i agree, braddock sucks.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:14PM
Just read the Henderson posts on Twitter. My offensive line this and my team that and my Bruins this. Again, what a pompous, self centered ass. Big donut hole to show for his high school career and now he is going to get big time exposed trying to play college ball.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:34PM
Still floored that LB had difficulty with Westfield with all of that 'supposed' talent in both games. Henderson was supposed to be a great passer and with 2-3 receivers over 6' tall and struggled to score. I understand that LB was missing a couple of their best defenders but WF barely moved the ball on offense.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:36PM
Was overrated the entire year. Played weak competition, almost got beat by WF and SOCO and Henderson me first type of player. They got enamored with his so-called running skills at end of year but no big deal against a reasonable defense like WF. Also his passing is way overrated. Strong arm but no touch, no understanding of how to run an offense. Good riddance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
gingerboy
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:38PM
yeah it's a shame that the media tries to put people like this in a positive light....not that henderson should be put in a negative light but no "light" at all would be preferable. by the way i heard hendo was awarded 1st team all met... i haven't looked much into qb's in the allmet area but is he deserving of it? honest question...anyways screw Lake Braddock...those phony assholes. Reading Poythress' post-interviews make me want to vomit. What a prick, I can see why every ref and coach in the northern region hates his ass.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:40PM
In the annals of NOVA football Henderson and this Lake Braddock team will not even register a blip.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
reality cheque
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:03PM
Can think of a number of local QBs I would rather have than Henderson, starting with Scott Walter of Centreville. Much more of a true dual threat.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ridiculous
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:17PM
gingerboy Wrote:
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> yeah it's a shame that the media tries to put
> people like this in a positive light....not that
> henderson should be put in a negative light but no
> "light" at all would be preferable. by the way i
> heard hendo was awarded 1st team all met... i
> haven't looked much into qb's in the allmet area
> but is he deserving of it? honest
> question...anyways screw Lake Braddock...those
> phony assholes. Reading Poythress'
> post-interviews make me want to vomit. What a
> prick, I can see why every ref and coach in the
> northern region hates his ass.
It's all about hype. Looks good in the shorts and t-shirt in the controlled situations at the camps, clinics and combines, father schmoozes with the right people, fudges some stats like his 40 speed, transfers to LB to try and stack the deck and build the mythology. Media feeds into it and it's just like a snowball rolling down hill, gets a life of its own, and the hype builds even more. Some talent there but no more so than a dozen deserving QBs in the metro area. More about his fat ass father spinning the tale to the right people in the media and NoVa football community. Of course Poythress is one of the coaches on the AllMet site who give top 20 rankings. Cute.
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> yeah it's a shame that the media tries to put
> people like this in a positive light....not that
> henderson should be put in a negative light but no
> "light" at all would be preferable. by the way i
> heard hendo was awarded 1st team all met... i
> haven't looked much into qb's in the allmet area
> but is he deserving of it? honest
> question...anyways screw Lake Braddock...those
> phony assholes. Reading Poythress'
> post-interviews make me want to vomit. What a
> prick, I can see why every ref and coach in the
> northern region hates his ass.
It's all about hype. Looks good in the shorts and t-shirt in the controlled situations at the camps, clinics and combines, father schmoozes with the right people, fudges some stats like his 40 speed, transfers to LB to try and stack the deck and build the mythology. Media feeds into it and it's just like a snowball rolling down hill, gets a life of its own, and the hype builds even more. Some talent there but no more so than a dozen deserving QBs in the metro area. More about his fat ass father spinning the tale to the right people in the media and NoVa football community. Of course Poythress is one of the coaches on the AllMet site who give top 20 rankings. Cute.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:33PM
ridiculous Wrote:
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> gingerboy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > yeah it's a shame that the media tries to put
> > people like this in a positive light....not
> that
> > henderson should be put in a negative light but
> no
> > "light" at all would be preferable. by the way
> i
> > heard hendo was awarded 1st team all met... i
> > haven't looked much into qb's in the allmet
> area
> > but is he deserving of it? honest
> > question...anyways screw Lake Braddock...those
> > phony assholes. Reading Poythress'
> > post-interviews make me want to vomit. What a
> > prick, I can see why every ref and coach in the
> > northern region hates his ass.
>
> It's all about hype. Looks good in the shorts and
> t-shirt in the controlled situations at the camps,
> clinics and combines, father schmoozes with the
> right people, fudges some stats like his 40 speed,
> transfers to LB to try and stack the deck and
> build the mythology. Media feeds into it and it's
> just like a snowball rolling down hill, gets a
> life of its own, and the hype builds even more.
> Some talent there but no more so than a dozen
> deserving QBs in the metro area. More about his
> fat ass father spinning the tale to the right
> people in the media and NoVa football community.
> Of course Poythress is one of the coaches on the
> AllMet site who give top 20 rankings. Cute.
For his Dad, to do what is needed and maybe a little extra to get a scholarship for his son, I have to give hi credit. Coaches likely see what they need and for them to move to a school that showcases his skills is smart. A scholarship/degree from UNC is huge. Based on all of his 'choices', people were surprised with his choice of UNC but a lower D1 team may be the best fit although I think he will be shocked, if he plays, by the competition. Remember what happen to Nebrick who went to UConn, was not going to play and transferred, doing very well now.
Also, with Nebrick, Zanellato, the Robinson WR who transferred his senior year to LB as Robinson was not a good fit for his skills. He received a scholarship to Penn State. May not have if he stayed with Robinson.
I am not saying players should transfer based on their skills but sometimes moving to a different program 'style' helps.
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> gingerboy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > yeah it's a shame that the media tries to put
> > people like this in a positive light....not
> that
> > henderson should be put in a negative light but
> no
> > "light" at all would be preferable. by the way
> i
> > heard hendo was awarded 1st team all met... i
> > haven't looked much into qb's in the allmet
> area
> > but is he deserving of it? honest
> > question...anyways screw Lake Braddock...those
> > phony assholes. Reading Poythress'
> > post-interviews make me want to vomit. What a
> > prick, I can see why every ref and coach in the
> > northern region hates his ass.
>
> It's all about hype. Looks good in the shorts and
> t-shirt in the controlled situations at the camps,
> clinics and combines, father schmoozes with the
> right people, fudges some stats like his 40 speed,
> transfers to LB to try and stack the deck and
> build the mythology. Media feeds into it and it's
> just like a snowball rolling down hill, gets a
> life of its own, and the hype builds even more.
> Some talent there but no more so than a dozen
> deserving QBs in the metro area. More about his
> fat ass father spinning the tale to the right
> people in the media and NoVa football community.
> Of course Poythress is one of the coaches on the
> AllMet site who give top 20 rankings. Cute.
For his Dad, to do what is needed and maybe a little extra to get a scholarship for his son, I have to give hi credit. Coaches likely see what they need and for them to move to a school that showcases his skills is smart. A scholarship/degree from UNC is huge. Based on all of his 'choices', people were surprised with his choice of UNC but a lower D1 team may be the best fit although I think he will be shocked, if he plays, by the competition. Remember what happen to Nebrick who went to UConn, was not going to play and transferred, doing very well now.
Also, with Nebrick, Zanellato, the Robinson WR who transferred his senior year to LB as Robinson was not a good fit for his skills. He received a scholarship to Penn State. May not have if he stayed with Robinson.
I am not saying players should transfer based on their skills but sometimes moving to a different program 'style' helps.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mouy89
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:35PM
Some bitter, hateful people on here getting all the hate out of their system. Most are just jealous of LB's success, and so they're hapy to see them lose and take thier potshots at the one player whom they probably have never met or talked to. I don't know or haven't talked with the QB but it's obvious that some of these clowns on here have an ax to grind............jealously is one of the seven sins.
Look in the mirror before you go on your hateful rants towards other people.
Look in the mirror before you go on your hateful rants towards other people.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:39PM
CatDad Wrote:
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> I don't want to look past the WF game either, and
> I certainly know that any Cville game against OS
> will be hard, but....
>
> While VTboy may preach the wonders of the OS team,
> from my perspective I have a hard time admiring a
> team whose regular season consists of only two
> games against Div 6 teams, three games against Div
> 5 teams and five games against Div 4 teams!
>
> And no wonder the freshman QB did a miraculous job
> on TV in his first game - heck it was against Lake
> Taylor a Div 4 team.
----------------
I have posted here before about Smith not being as battle-tested this year as teams in the North. Yet I wouldn't rank on Smith playing Lake Taylor. LT is the defending D5 champ and only moved to D4 this year. LT beat a Stone Bridge team at UVA last year that had 2 players in ESPN's top 50: Burns and Allen. I was at the opener; LT's O was not ready yet and that's a big reason why the score was 42-2. Lake Taylor got going after that; its only other reg season loss was a close 21-14 battle vs. defending D6 champ Bird which is now in D5.
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> I don't want to look past the WF game either, and
> I certainly know that any Cville game against OS
> will be hard, but....
>
> While VTboy may preach the wonders of the OS team,
> from my perspective I have a hard time admiring a
> team whose regular season consists of only two
> games against Div 6 teams, three games against Div
> 5 teams and five games against Div 4 teams!
>
> And no wonder the freshman QB did a miraculous job
> on TV in his first game - heck it was against Lake
> Taylor a Div 4 team.
----------------
I have posted here before about Smith not being as battle-tested this year as teams in the North. Yet I wouldn't rank on Smith playing Lake Taylor. LT is the defending D5 champ and only moved to D4 this year. LT beat a Stone Bridge team at UVA last year that had 2 players in ESPN's top 50: Burns and Allen. I was at the opener; LT's O was not ready yet and that's a big reason why the score was 42-2. Lake Taylor got going after that; its only other reg season loss was a close 21-14 battle vs. defending D6 champ Bird which is now in D5.
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Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:44PM
What success has Lake Braddock had Mr. Minister? A lot of talkative nothingness in the Patriot District. A team of a lot of show but nothing to SHOW for it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 08:58PM
7577 Wrote:
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> Live in Chesapeake. This oscar smith team is young
> and not even close to what they usually are.
> undisciplined, street, and maybe not even the best
> team down here? Ocean lakes was upset last week,
> but was the #1 team in the state for most of the
> season.
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I agree. OLakes dropped 62 on Western Branch, a team Smith struggled to score 27 against. Smith's young QB hasn't seen much pressure and doesn't respond well when he gets it. No doubt that will be part of the game plan for whichever team reps the North at UVA. On D, Smith will crowd the line unless you throw some on first and second downs.
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> Live in Chesapeake. This oscar smith team is young
> and not even close to what they usually are.
> undisciplined, street, and maybe not even the best
> team down here? Ocean lakes was upset last week,
> but was the #1 team in the state for most of the
> season.
-------
I agree. OLakes dropped 62 on Western Branch, a team Smith struggled to score 27 against. Smith's young QB hasn't seen much pressure and doesn't respond well when he gets it. No doubt that will be part of the game plan for whichever team reps the North at UVA. On D, Smith will crowd the line unless you throw some on first and second downs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Heydickweed
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:08PM
Hey Brad Dock Sux - we get it, you hate them. You and Mootboy need to find something else to talk about. I'm sorry if Henderson banged your daughter, or took your son's spot on the team, or if they didn't give out the right kind of candy on Halloween. Get over it and shut the fuck up. You offer nothing but worthless babble at this point.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:12PM
You must be from North Carolina. One of the confused and soon to be bewildered.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:17PM
VTboy Wrote:
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> wildcats state champs 13 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Centreville is the top program in the
> state
> > hands down
>
> "If" Centreville gets by Westfield, and even as a
> Cville resident and CVHS fan, that's an emphatic
> "if"... they will have a monumental task against
> Oscar Smith, who will be a heavy favorite.
>
> Here's the picture, on paper:
>
> Oscar Smith ranked nationally #10 by USA Today:
> http://www.usatodayhss.com/super25/rankings/2013/b
> oys/varsity/football/
>
> Oscar Smith's best players:
>
> Andrew Brown, DT (6-3 298), 5-star recruit ranked
> #8 HS player in the country and the #1 DT, UVa
> signee:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/r
> ankings/rank-3235
>
> Jaylen Bradshaw, WR, 2-star recruit, Conference
> offensive player of the year, Va Tech signee.
>
> DaShawn McClease, RB, Junior, ranked in top 150
> nationally, already offers from VT, UNC, and
> others.
>
> I doubt that Cville has ever seen anyone in NoVa
> as good as these three players at their
> positions.
>
> Let's not forget Shon Mitchell, a freshman, who is
> their starting QB. You may think "oh, a
> freshman, he'll choke in the big game". Well,
> Oscar Smith was on national TV (ESPNU) their first
> game this year, and Mitchell (obviously his first
> HS start) threw three TD passes. By the way he
> was first team all-conference.
>
> It will take a team effort and the game of his
> life from Scott Walter since he'll have to win it
> with his arm. They won't be able to run much and
> won't have much time to throw. They can win with
> the perfect game, but nothing less.
>
> The 2011 game between the two was a complete
> mismatch, but Walter is a big upgrade from the
> 2011 QB, and Cville has more team speed this year
> with Turner, Tutt etc.
--------
Excellent points. Last year, Stone Bridge had 2 players in ESPN's top 40: Burns the QB (now at Stanford) and Allen the DT who just played for Alabama vs Auburn. It also had a big line and one other player who was all-NOVA--maybe Mizell. Was great for 12 games but then showed chinks in the armor. In the NR final win, it gave up 29 to Yorktown in the 1st half and trailed in the 3rd before pulling away. At UVA, the O game plan was run, run and run some more. Down 20-0, the team rallied before losing, 20-14. The point is that the TEAM must execute and 2-3 great players often are not enough to overcome weaknesses such as slow D backs, poor ball handling, etc., when you are deep in playoffs.
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> wildcats state champs 13 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Centreville is the top program in the
> state
> > hands down
>
> "If" Centreville gets by Westfield, and even as a
> Cville resident and CVHS fan, that's an emphatic
> "if"... they will have a monumental task against
> Oscar Smith, who will be a heavy favorite.
>
> Here's the picture, on paper:
>
> Oscar Smith ranked nationally #10 by USA Today:
> http://www.usatodayhss.com/super25/rankings/2013/b
> oys/varsity/football/
>
> Oscar Smith's best players:
>
> Andrew Brown, DT (6-3 298), 5-star recruit ranked
> #8 HS player in the country and the #1 DT, UVa
> signee:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/r
> ankings/rank-3235
>
> Jaylen Bradshaw, WR, 2-star recruit, Conference
> offensive player of the year, Va Tech signee.
>
> DaShawn McClease, RB, Junior, ranked in top 150
> nationally, already offers from VT, UNC, and
> others.
>
> I doubt that Cville has ever seen anyone in NoVa
> as good as these three players at their
> positions.
>
> Let's not forget Shon Mitchell, a freshman, who is
> their starting QB. You may think "oh, a
> freshman, he'll choke in the big game". Well,
> Oscar Smith was on national TV (ESPNU) their first
> game this year, and Mitchell (obviously his first
> HS start) threw three TD passes. By the way he
> was first team all-conference.
>
> It will take a team effort and the game of his
> life from Scott Walter since he'll have to win it
> with his arm. They won't be able to run much and
> won't have much time to throw. They can win with
> the perfect game, but nothing less.
>
> The 2011 game between the two was a complete
> mismatch, but Walter is a big upgrade from the
> 2011 QB, and Cville has more team speed this year
> with Turner, Tutt etc.
--------
Excellent points. Last year, Stone Bridge had 2 players in ESPN's top 40: Burns the QB (now at Stanford) and Allen the DT who just played for Alabama vs Auburn. It also had a big line and one other player who was all-NOVA--maybe Mizell. Was great for 12 games but then showed chinks in the armor. In the NR final win, it gave up 29 to Yorktown in the 1st half and trailed in the 3rd before pulling away. At UVA, the O game plan was run, run and run some more. Down 20-0, the team rallied before losing, 20-14. The point is that the TEAM must execute and 2-3 great players often are not enough to overcome weaknesses such as slow D backs, poor ball handling, etc., when you are deep in playoffs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:18PM
Coming from Lee, I have plenty of dislike for all that Braddock stands for, but y'all keep your paws off my Tar Heels. I be born and raised in gorgeous Chapel Hill.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
MVP All We Do is Win
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:38PM
Ride or die. 757 will kick 703 butt all day long, every day when the eagle flies.
757 4 Life. 703 players end up riding the bench in FCS. 757 players play for BCS in FCS. Simple fact of life.
757 4 Life. 703 players end up riding the bench in FCS. 757 players play for BCS in FCS. Simple fact of life.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:45PM
"Still floored that LB had difficulty with Westfield with all of that 'supposed' talent in both games. Henderson was supposed to be a great passer and with 2-3 receivers over 6' tall and struggled to score. I understand that LB was missing a couple of their best defenders but WF barely moved the ball on offense."
Not sure what game you watched, if you even saw the game, but just Thrasher-Walker and Evan Gray alone had over 250 rushing yards. Add Burns rushing and receiving yards there's an easy 300. Truth is if the ref wasn't so blind he would have given WF a TD on their first possession. Film shows ball broke the plain before Thrasher-Walkers knee was down. Could have been more than 19 points for WF if they're QB didn't throw two awful picks in the LB redzone, one of them was in the endzone. LB didn't put WF away because contrary to popular belief WF actually has a strong D.
Not sure what game you watched, if you even saw the game, but just Thrasher-Walker and Evan Gray alone had over 250 rushing yards. Add Burns rushing and receiving yards there's an easy 300. Truth is if the ref wasn't so blind he would have given WF a TD on their first possession. Film shows ball broke the plain before Thrasher-Walkers knee was down. Could have been more than 19 points for WF if they're QB didn't throw two awful picks in the LB redzone, one of them was in the endzone. LB didn't put WF away because contrary to popular belief WF actually has a strong D.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
flintStones
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:50PM
hmm
I coach outside the division but from the outside in.
2013 LB has 12 wins in a row!
2012 LB has 8 wins and loses to region champion(team that beat Cville and Westfield)
2011 LB has down year with like 7 wins? not sure on this
2010 LB wins region and loses to state champion
2009 LB wins region and loses to state champion
If doing this well is considered god awful and worse then squirrel poop what would people say about most of the other teams around who don't do these things?
in the last 10 years The only team to win anything more than these guys is Westfeild. And well last I checked Westfield is one of the best programs in state history (in terms of success per year as only opened for like 15 yrs?).
If people really want to attack LB there are probably a multitude of things to say. But laughing at their lack of success means every post must be from Westfield or it's just not credible. But then Westfield is who they are by, arrogantly be it, believing they do things the right way which doesn't include fairfax underground attacks on people below them.
So, maybe all the LB hate is coming from somewhere internally?
I coach outside the division but from the outside in.
2013 LB has 12 wins in a row!
2012 LB has 8 wins and loses to region champion(team that beat Cville and Westfield)
2011 LB has down year with like 7 wins? not sure on this
2010 LB wins region and loses to state champion
2009 LB wins region and loses to state champion
If doing this well is considered god awful and worse then squirrel poop what would people say about most of the other teams around who don't do these things?
in the last 10 years The only team to win anything more than these guys is Westfeild. And well last I checked Westfield is one of the best programs in state history (in terms of success per year as only opened for like 15 yrs?).
If people really want to attack LB there are probably a multitude of things to say. But laughing at their lack of success means every post must be from Westfield or it's just not credible. But then Westfield is who they are by, arrogantly be it, believing they do things the right way which doesn't include fairfax underground attacks on people below them.
So, maybe all the LB hate is coming from somewhere internally?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ridiculous
()
Date: December 02, 2013 09:51PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Coming from Lee, I have plenty of dislike for all
> that Braddock stands for, but y'all keep your paws
> off my Tar Heels. I be born and raised in
> gorgeous Chapel Hill.
Nothing against UNC. I feel bad for them. A good program, and they will realize that they wasted a spot on the Mistake from the Lake. All hype and bluster. Live and learn. Won't see the field.
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> Coming from Lee, I have plenty of dislike for all
> that Braddock stands for, but y'all keep your paws
> off my Tar Heels. I be born and raised in
> gorgeous Chapel Hill.
Nothing against UNC. I feel bad for them. A good program, and they will realize that they wasted a spot on the Mistake from the Lake. All hype and bluster. Live and learn. Won't see the field.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 10:38PM
Yes all the spew is coming from the Lake Braddock 4th period crocheting class. We won the districts this year and got no notice at all due to the damn football team hogging all the attention.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Winston Salem
()
Date: December 02, 2013 10:40PM
For you Lake Braddock haters, tune in this Saturday. Former LB QB Mike Nebrich leads Fordham in the second round NCAA FCS playoffs against Towson. Fordham is 12-1 and on a tear.
Chew on that tobacco. Haters gone hate....losers are just losers.
Chew on that tobacco. Haters gone hate....losers are just losers.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jefferson Davis
()
Date: December 02, 2013 10:43PM
Enuff already with the jealousy. Local kid gets scholarship to UNC...wish him well or go to hell. His high school career is over. Let the focus be on those still standing, not the fallen whom you have some sad desire to condemn. Grow up and move on buddy. Hendo took your position, so deal with it.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 02, 2013 10:50PM
How bout them Wildcats!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football truth
()
Date: December 02, 2013 11:06PM
Smoke there's fire Hendo is an ok qb but a classless taunting football player that will be fine if he grows up and becomes a little more humble. If he is all met 1st team justs shows this really is a down year for metro area qbs.people on here are not jealous of mistake by the lake but just dont like them much. Westfield has more recent success over the last 15 years and no one is jealous of them. Its the lack of class and humility at Lake Braddock. If this hurts maybe they should self reflect and figure out why they are the most hated school in nova?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Play Offs
()
Date: December 02, 2013 11:08PM
Time change for the Centreville/Westfield game?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Benedict Arnold
()
Date: December 02, 2013 11:16PM
Success breeds jealousy...nobody hatin' on West Springfield or Jeb Stuart.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 02, 2013 11:27PM
Jealousy, peshaw....
I have always known Braddock sux and the past weekend just another element of proof.
I have always known Braddock sux and the past weekend just another element of proof.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BRAD DOCK SUX
()
Date: December 03, 2013 01:16AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Coming from Lee, I have plenty of dislike for all
> that Braddock stands for, but y'all keep your paws
> off my Tar Heels. I be born and raised in
> gorgeous Chapel Hill.
Nat - apologies. I don't have a problem with UNC. I do have an ax to grind, but as I mentioned in an earlier post, it's all with Poythress, Henderson, and Lake Braddock. I'm mad because I never got my shot in high school because someone was better than me. Instead of getting over it, I relive it through high school kids today. I don't mean to be so pathetic, but I'm 48 and my mom didn't tell me she loved me enough because she was so busy servicing the other dads in the neighborhood. By the way, I'm also posting as gingerboy, and rootboy too. You can tell because my gingerboy posts come literally 2 minutes or less after my other posts.
It's too bad, because I say that lake Braddock won't register a blip in the annals of NoVA football. Yet, here I am creating as much publicity as I possibly can for lake Braddock. I really have nothing to do. No wonder my wife hates me, I'm so boring. Even my hand falls asleep when I rub one out.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Coming from Lee, I have plenty of dislike for all
> that Braddock stands for, but y'all keep your paws
> off my Tar Heels. I be born and raised in
> gorgeous Chapel Hill.
Nat - apologies. I don't have a problem with UNC. I do have an ax to grind, but as I mentioned in an earlier post, it's all with Poythress, Henderson, and Lake Braddock. I'm mad because I never got my shot in high school because someone was better than me. Instead of getting over it, I relive it through high school kids today. I don't mean to be so pathetic, but I'm 48 and my mom didn't tell me she loved me enough because she was so busy servicing the other dads in the neighborhood. By the way, I'm also posting as gingerboy, and rootboy too. You can tell because my gingerboy posts come literally 2 minutes or less after my other posts.
It's too bad, because I say that lake Braddock won't register a blip in the annals of NoVA football. Yet, here I am creating as much publicity as I possibly can for lake Braddock. I really have nothing to do. No wonder my wife hates me, I'm so boring. Even my hand falls asleep when I rub one out.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 03, 2013 06:27AM
Play Offs Wrote:
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> Time change for the Centreville/Westfield game?
Nope. Still Saturday at 1:30.
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> Time change for the Centreville/Westfield game?
Nope. Still Saturday at 1:30.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan come back!
()
Date: December 03, 2013 07:19AM
hsfballfan, this thread has turned to shit. PLEASE COME BACK. You can deal with the imposters and haters for 2 more weeks!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
KingConcorde
()
Date: December 03, 2013 07:21AM
How about a shout out to Westfield coaching staff. It is one of the regions best. They consistently take teams that are lacking true D1 talent and make them consistent winners. The 2011 team loses 20 starters and they come back with a 12-1 season. This years team loses QB that led District in all passing categories, RB with 1700+ yards and an all district o-line and just reloads again. That is coaching pure and simple. Hats off to the Westfield coaching staff. Let's see if they can pull a rabbit out of their hat on Saturday and beat a Centreville team that is deserving of their #2 ranking.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 03, 2013 08:01AM
I am sorry I have given up on football completely and joined a Hare Krishna sect in South Asia. May peace be with you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan come back!
()
Date: December 03, 2013 08:09AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> I am sorry I have given up on football completely
> and joined a Hare Krishna sect in South Asia. May
> peace be with you.
Imposter!
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> I am sorry I have given up on football completely
> and joined a Hare Krishna sect in South Asia. May
> peace be with you.
Imposter!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 03, 2013 08:17AM
Why the accusation? I have truly found the peace and love and acceptance I have so desired. Join me, find the light, given up your wordly obsessions, especially high school football. Join with me in some bhakti yoga, in which we as devotees can dedicate thoughts and actions and our very existence towards pleasing the Supreme Lord, Krishna.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 03, 2013 08:31AM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Why the accusation? I have truly found the peace
> and love and acceptance I have so desired. Join
> me, find the light, given up your wordly
> obsessions, especially high school football. Join
> with me in some bhakti yoga, in which we as
> devotees can dedicate thoughts and actions and our
> very existence towards pleasing the Supreme Lord,
> Krishna.
This thread indeed has turned to shit.
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> Why the accusation? I have truly found the peace
> and love and acceptance I have so desired. Join
> me, find the light, given up your wordly
> obsessions, especially high school football. Join
> with me in some bhakti yoga, in which we as
> devotees can dedicate thoughts and actions and our
> very existence towards pleasing the Supreme Lord,
> Krishna.
This thread indeed has turned to shit.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 03, 2013 09:39AM
EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> > The 2011 game between the two was a complete
> > mismatch, but Walter is a big upgrade from the
> > 2011 QB, and Cville has more team speed this
> > year with Turner, Tutt etc.
> --------
> Excellent points. Last year, Stone Bridge had 2
> players in ESPN's top 40: Burns the QB (now at
> Stanford) and Allen the DT who just played for
> Alabama vs Auburn. It also had a big line and one
> other player who was all-NOVA--maybe Mizell. Was
> great for 12 games but then showed chinks in the
> armor. In the NR final win, it gave up 29 to
> Yorktown in the 1st half and trailed in the 3rd
> before pulling away. At UVA, the O game plan was
> run, run and run some more. Down 20-0, the team
> rallied before losing, 20-14. The point is that
> the TEAM must execute and 2-3 great players often
> are not enough to overcome weaknesses such as slow
> D backs, poor ball handling, etc., when you are
> deep in playoffs.
Totally agree. Look at Braddock, 2 Div 1 players and a few FCS players but not enough talent across the board to beat Westfield which prob has zero Div 1 players. Of course Centreville only has one D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of talent and depth.
So yes team execution and coaching will be so important for whichever Northern team faces Oscar Smith (assuming they win).
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> > The 2011 game between the two was a complete
> > mismatch, but Walter is a big upgrade from the
> > 2011 QB, and Cville has more team speed this
> > year with Turner, Tutt etc.
> --------
> Excellent points. Last year, Stone Bridge had 2
> players in ESPN's top 40: Burns the QB (now at
> Stanford) and Allen the DT who just played for
> Alabama vs Auburn. It also had a big line and one
> other player who was all-NOVA--maybe Mizell. Was
> great for 12 games but then showed chinks in the
> armor. In the NR final win, it gave up 29 to
> Yorktown in the 1st half and trailed in the 3rd
> before pulling away. At UVA, the O game plan was
> run, run and run some more. Down 20-0, the team
> rallied before losing, 20-14. The point is that
> the TEAM must execute and 2-3 great players often
> are not enough to overcome weaknesses such as slow
> D backs, poor ball handling, etc., when you are
> deep in playoffs.
Totally agree. Look at Braddock, 2 Div 1 players and a few FCS players but not enough talent across the board to beat Westfield which prob has zero Div 1 players. Of course Centreville only has one D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of talent and depth.
So yes team execution and coaching will be so important for whichever Northern team faces Oscar Smith (assuming they win).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Gronkmeister
()
Date: December 03, 2013 09:47AM
It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be playing Westfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
novafootballkid
()
Date: December 03, 2013 10:29AM
Gronkmeister Wrote:
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> It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be
> playing Westfield.
OOOHHHH How I wish I could make a bet on this game!! Take Centreville and give the points, they are going to dominate them AGAIN!
BTW .. what would the points be..... 24?
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> It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be
> playing Westfield.
OOOHHHH How I wish I could make a bet on this game!! Take Centreville and give the points, they are going to dominate them AGAIN!
BTW .. what would the points be..... 24?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 03, 2013 10:34AM
Gronkmeister Wrote:
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> It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be
> playing Westfield.
As a CVHS fan, I'm much more nervous about WF than would have been about LB. Something about playing a team the 2nd time after beating them the first time. See CVHS-WF 2011, Oakton-WF 2012, and of course WF-LB 2013.
Anyone know the extent of Thrasher-Walker's injury?
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> It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be
> playing Westfield.
As a CVHS fan, I'm much more nervous about WF than would have been about LB. Something about playing a team the 2nd time after beating them the first time. See CVHS-WF 2011, Oakton-WF 2012, and of course WF-LB 2013.
Anyone know the extent of Thrasher-Walker's injury?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Gronkmeister
()
Date: December 03, 2013 10:49AM
No word on Thrasher-Walker.
Haddock's sphincter is getting tighter by the day thinking about this game.
Haddock's sphincter is getting tighter by the day thinking about this game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 03, 2013 11:16AM
VTboy Wrote:
Of course Centreville only has one
> D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of
> talent and depth.
That's because starters Tutt, Turner, O'Connor, Nicken-Yzer, Boose, Love, Liddle, Jennings, Behne, Brooks, Wright and Skule are all juniors. Not saying they are all D1, but this time next year, several more will be on rivals.com
Of course Centreville only has one
> D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of
> talent and depth.
That's because starters Tutt, Turner, O'Connor, Nicken-Yzer, Boose, Love, Liddle, Jennings, Behne, Brooks, Wright and Skule are all juniors. Not saying they are all D1, but this time next year, several more will be on rivals.com
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Football Fever
()
Date: December 03, 2013 11:18AM
VTboy Wrote:
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> Gronkmeister Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be
> > playing Westfield.
>
> As a CVHS fan, I'm much more nervous about WF than
> would have been about LB. Something about playing
> a team the 2nd time after beating them the first
> time. See CVHS-WF 2011, Oakton-WF 2012, and of
> course WF-LB 2013.
>
> Anyone know the extent of Thrasher-Walker's
> injury?
I am less concerned. I was worried that CVille's secondary would struggle with LB WR's and it could be a high scoring affair
It may be the opposite with WF. Their Defense is solid, and probably underrated.
I think CVille's defense will hold well, especailly if Thrasher_Walker is out or not 100% but if they are within a couple of TD's late, no telling what could happen.
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> Gronkmeister Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It won't be Centreville. Oscar Smith will be
> > playing Westfield.
>
> As a CVHS fan, I'm much more nervous about WF than
> would have been about LB. Something about playing
> a team the 2nd time after beating them the first
> time. See CVHS-WF 2011, Oakton-WF 2012, and of
> course WF-LB 2013.
>
> Anyone know the extent of Thrasher-Walker's
> injury?
I am less concerned. I was worried that CVille's secondary would struggle with LB WR's and it could be a high scoring affair
It may be the opposite with WF. Their Defense is solid, and probably underrated.
I think CVille's defense will hold well, especailly if Thrasher_Walker is out or not 100% but if they are within a couple of TD's late, no telling what could happen.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NovaPigskin
()
Date: December 03, 2013 11:43AM
KingConcorde Wrote:
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> How about a shout out to Westfield coaching staff.
> It is one of the regions best. They consistently
> take teams that are lacking true D1 talent and
> make them consistent winners. The 2011 team
> loses 20 starters and they come back with a 12-1
> season. This years team loses QB that led
> District in all passing categories, RB with 1700+
> yards and an all district o-line and just reloads
> again. That is coaching pure and simple. Hats
> off to the Westfield coaching staff. Let's see if
> they can pull a rabbit out of their hat on
> Saturday and beat a Centreville team that is
> deserving of their #2 ranking.
Agree totally. These coaches get the most out of what they have and are great at putting the players they have in the best position to win. A bit conservative at times with offensive play calling, but you can't argue with the results (35-4 last three years in the "post-Verbanic era."
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> How about a shout out to Westfield coaching staff.
> It is one of the regions best. They consistently
> take teams that are lacking true D1 talent and
> make them consistent winners. The 2011 team
> loses 20 starters and they come back with a 12-1
> season. This years team loses QB that led
> District in all passing categories, RB with 1700+
> yards and an all district o-line and just reloads
> again. That is coaching pure and simple. Hats
> off to the Westfield coaching staff. Let's see if
> they can pull a rabbit out of their hat on
> Saturday and beat a Centreville team that is
> deserving of their #2 ranking.
Agree totally. These coaches get the most out of what they have and are great at putting the players they have in the best position to win. A bit conservative at times with offensive play calling, but you can't argue with the results (35-4 last three years in the "post-Verbanic era."
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 03, 2013 11:52AM
Interesting Wrote:
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> VTboy Wrote:
>
> Of course Centreville only has one
> > D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of
> > talent and depth.
>
> That's because starters Tutt, Turner, O'Connor,
> Nicken-Yzer, Boose, Love, Liddle, Jennings, Behne,
> Brooks, Wright and Skule are all juniors. Not
> saying they are all D1, but this time next year,
> several more will be on rivals.com
Very well could be. I'm sure there is a lot of hype and PR that goes into those lists.
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> VTboy Wrote:
>
> Of course Centreville only has one
> > D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of
> > talent and depth.
>
> That's because starters Tutt, Turner, O'Connor,
> Nicken-Yzer, Boose, Love, Liddle, Jennings, Behne,
> Brooks, Wright and Skule are all juniors. Not
> saying they are all D1, but this time next year,
> several more will be on rivals.com
Very well could be. I'm sure there is a lot of hype and PR that goes into those lists.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Going to Romp
()
Date: December 03, 2013 01:06PM
Centreville will beat Westfield by a few touchdowns if not more. Don't buy into the second game hoax or the emotion from years past. Very good talent will trump good talent in this case.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
He's Back
()
Date: December 03, 2013 01:14PM
Welcome back "hsfballfan" guess which one of these 2 he is "Of course Centreville only has one
> > D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of
> > talent and depth.
>
> That's because starters Tutt, Turner, O'Connor,
> Nicken-Yzer, Boose, Love, Liddle, Jennings, Behne,
> Brooks, Wright and Skule are all juniors. Not
> saying they are all D1, but this time next year,
> several more will be on rivals.com" or
"Cville Going to Romp ()
Date: December 03, 2013 01:06PM
Centreville will beat Westfield by a few touchdowns if not more. Don't buy into the second game hoax or the emotion from years past. Very good talent will trump good talent in this case.
> > D1 player on rivals.com (Tutt) but has lots of
> > talent and depth.
>
> That's because starters Tutt, Turner, O'Connor,
> Nicken-Yzer, Boose, Love, Liddle, Jennings, Behne,
> Brooks, Wright and Skule are all juniors. Not
> saying they are all D1, but this time next year,
> several more will be on rivals.com" or
"Cville Going to Romp ()
Date: December 03, 2013 01:06PM
Centreville will beat Westfield by a few touchdowns if not more. Don't buy into the second game hoax or the emotion from years past. Very good talent will trump good talent in this case.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
fan of hsfballfan
()
Date: December 03, 2013 01:29PM
No it is ME, "Fan of hsfballfan." I am here to take up the banner of hsfballfan and talk Centreville football and all that is good in this world (and distract the haters). By the way hope all the haters from last night are long gone.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 03, 2013 02:35PM
fan of hsfballfan Wrote:
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> No it is ME, "Fan of hsfballfan." I am here to
> take up the banner of hsfballfan and talk
> Centreville football and all that is good in this
> world (and distract the haters). By the way hope
> all the haters from last night are long gone.
Well, before you get started you'd better go register so nobody could imitate you, as his demise was partly the fault of impostors.
-------------------------------------------------------
> No it is ME, "Fan of hsfballfan." I am here to
> take up the banner of hsfballfan and talk
> Centreville football and all that is good in this
> world (and distract the haters). By the way hope
> all the haters from last night are long gone.
Well, before you get started you'd better go register so nobody could imitate you, as his demise was partly the fault of impostors.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 03, 2013 02:51PM
He's Back Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Welcome back "hsfballfan" guess which one of
> these 2 he is
your wrong...."hsfballfan" I think has been posting as "Football Fever".
Am I right???
-------------------------------------------------------
> Welcome back "hsfballfan" guess which one of
> these 2 he is
your wrong...."hsfballfan" I think has been posting as "Football Fever".
Am I right???
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldong
()
Date: December 03, 2013 04:37PM
BruinFan Wrote:
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> I actually think Robinson will beat Westfield on
> Friday by a couple of TDs. Just a gut feeling.
> Robinson is playing really well and is healthy
> now. Havn't been impressed with Westfield at all
> this year. Over-rated.
>
> This will set up a Ram/Bruin game the next week -
> which will be the better game because of the
> rivalry between the two, but I see Robinson losing
> that one.
Hey Bruin Fan, how are you feeling now? Both you and Robinson are sitting home watching Westfield play again. Westfield throttled you last year, you QB was outplayed; should have beat you in the first meeting and left you standing on your home field wondering what the hell happened on Saturday. Do you still think they are overrated? They don't have the talent of LB or Centreville, but I think the better term in "underrated."
-------------------------------------------------------
> I actually think Robinson will beat Westfield on
> Friday by a couple of TDs. Just a gut feeling.
> Robinson is playing really well and is healthy
> now. Havn't been impressed with Westfield at all
> this year. Over-rated.
>
> This will set up a Ram/Bruin game the next week -
> which will be the better game because of the
> rivalry between the two, but I see Robinson losing
> that one.
Hey Bruin Fan, how are you feeling now? Both you and Robinson are sitting home watching Westfield play again. Westfield throttled you last year, you QB was outplayed; should have beat you in the first meeting and left you standing on your home field wondering what the hell happened on Saturday. Do you still think they are overrated? They don't have the talent of LB or Centreville, but I think the better term in "underrated."
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
son of hsfballfan
()
Date: December 03, 2013 04:40PM
Actually I want to be bold and lay claim to the heritage of hsfballfan. I too can analyze film, speak intelligently about matchups, talk smack about Centreville, create Halls of Fame, and facilitate a band of merry followers just like Santa Claus. Where do we start? How about Centreville 102, Westfield 17. hoooooooah....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
what what
()
Date: December 03, 2013 04:53PM
son of hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Actually I want to be bold and lay claim to the
> heritage of hsfballfan. I too can analyze film,
> speak intelligently about matchups, talk smack
> about Centreville, create Halls of Fame, and
> facilitate a band of merry followers just like
> Santa Claus. Where do we start? How about
> Centreville 102, Westfield 17. hoooooooah....
Nah, Westfield will score 21.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Actually I want to be bold and lay claim to the
> heritage of hsfballfan. I too can analyze film,
> speak intelligently about matchups, talk smack
> about Centreville, create Halls of Fame, and
> facilitate a band of merry followers just like
> Santa Claus. Where do we start? How about
> Centreville 102, Westfield 17. hoooooooah....
Nah, Westfield will score 21.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sister of hsfballfan
()
Date: December 03, 2013 04:56PM
Well I am his younger sister and I TOTALLY disagree with anyone taking claim to anything. HF (what we in the family call him) has taken a stop from his football film studies and is resting in south florida at the moment. Stop impostering!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
what is going on here?
()
Date: December 03, 2013 04:59PM
Who in da hell is hsfballfan?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
yah man 23
()
Date: December 03, 2013 05:03PM
I have the same question. Is this a high school football thread or what people?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
crack a dilly pot
()
Date: December 03, 2013 05:18PM
hsfballfan is a semi-ok, semi-crackpot who was on this thread some time back thinking he was the football moderator and talked all the time about Centreville Wildcats and blah blah blah. He clearly had too much time on his hands. Left for some reason, think because he could not stand the heat of detractors and the haters that come on here from time to time.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
yah man 23
()
Date: December 03, 2013 05:20PM
Thanks got it, there is one on every thread.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just saying
()
Date: December 03, 2013 06:49PM
I don't remember Michael Nebrich having haters like this. Neither did Ryan burns. I don't think people hate lb for their success but rather the way they handle it. Anyways next topic...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 03, 2013 10:09PM
How about a little blast from the past for our cross-town rivals: Centreville
(Note current Redskins teammates DeAngelo Hall and Will Montgomery feature in story)
Attachments:
(Note current Redskins teammates DeAngelo Hall and Will Montgomery feature in story)
Attachments:
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 03, 2013 11:09PM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> How about a little blast from the past for our
> cross-town rivals: Centreville
>
> (Note current Redskins teammates DeAngelo Hall and
> Will Montgomery feature in story)
,
Thanks so much for the blast from the past. I still remember going to the CV games back then. CV won their last 3 playoff games by a total of 7 points or something. Great run.
Yes it's funny how Hall and Montgomery played for the same college and (eventually) pro teams.
-------------------------------------------------------
> How about a little blast from the past for our
> cross-town rivals: Centreville
>
> (Note current Redskins teammates DeAngelo Hall and
> Will Montgomery feature in story)
,
Thanks so much for the blast from the past. I still remember going to the CV games back then. CV won their last 3 playoff games by a total of 7 points or something. Great run.
Yes it's funny how Hall and Montgomery played for the same college and (eventually) pro teams.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
sooowhaz
()
Date: December 03, 2013 11:30PM
Yo so I was pulled over and cops found a crumb of weed on me. You think I'm gonna get anal raped when I go to jail. Let me know I wanna make sure my butthole is stretched... don't wanna tear glute.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 04, 2013 09:17AM
Nice story about the LB season:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/lake-braddock-reflects-on-stellar-season-after-stunning-loss-to-westfield/2013/12/02/c2d0980c-5b7d-11e3-bf7e-f567ee61ae21_story.html
After reaching the state title game in 2009, the Bruins had fallen to either the state finalist or Northern Region champion in each of the last three years, demonstrating just how close Lake Braddock was to a breakthrough.
Despite the haters LB has a good football program.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/lake-braddock-reflects-on-stellar-season-after-stunning-loss-to-westfield/2013/12/02/c2d0980c-5b7d-11e3-bf7e-f567ee61ae21_story.html
After reaching the state title game in 2009, the Bruins had fallen to either the state finalist or Northern Region champion in each of the last three years, demonstrating just how close Lake Braddock was to a breakthrough.
Despite the haters LB has a good football program.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldong
()
Date: December 04, 2013 09:31AM
RydellRoad Wrote:
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> Nice story about the LB season:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/l
> ake-braddock-reflects-on-stellar-season-after-stun
> ning-loss-to-westfield/2013/12/02/c2d0980c-5b7d-11
> e3-bf7e-f567ee61ae21_story.html
>
> After reaching the state title game in 2009,
> the Bruins had fallen to either the state finalist
> or Northern Region champion in each of the last
> three years, demonstrating just how close Lake
> Braddock was to a breakthrough.
>
> Despite the haters LB has a good football program.
Good, but not great. Westfield has a one dimensional offense and how does LB not stop them on that last drive???
This was a stunning defeat that could have been avoided. How was it that stud AJ Alexander was virtually shut out in this game?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nice story about the LB season:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/l
> ake-braddock-reflects-on-stellar-season-after-stun
> ning-loss-to-westfield/2013/12/02/c2d0980c-5b7d-11
> e3-bf7e-f567ee61ae21_story.html
>
> After reaching the state title game in 2009,
> the Bruins had fallen to either the state finalist
> or Northern Region champion in each of the last
> three years, demonstrating just how close Lake
> Braddock was to a breakthrough.
>
> Despite the haters LB has a good football program.
Good, but not great. Westfield has a one dimensional offense and how does LB not stop them on that last drive???
This was a stunning defeat that could have been avoided. How was it that stud AJ Alexander was virtually shut out in this game?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 04, 2013 09:41AM
Lake Braddock does have to be commended for fielding a consistently good team year in and year out, but I think personally think that article was right. They have hit their peak as a team, and I think they will have a difficult time returning to the state title game in the next couple years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 04, 2013 09:48AM
Bulldong Wrote:
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> Good, but not great. Westfield has a one
> dimensional offense and how does LB not stop them
> on that last drive???
WF really did not have any problem moving the ball on LB. It was just a LOT of critical mistakes and not finishing drives. Heck, they had 20 first downs to LB's 14. Realistically WF should have scored 2-3 additional TD's - that's 14-21 points. But they didn't... and it could have/should have lost them the game.
>
> This was a stunning defeat that could have been
> avoided. How was it that stud AJ Alexander was
> virtually shut out in this game?
WF defense has been under-rated all season. They are pretty darn good. Never let up more than 28 points in a game all season. In 3 PO games they have given up 42 points (12+14+16)... CVille has allowed 62 points in their last 2 PO games.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Good, but not great. Westfield has a one
> dimensional offense and how does LB not stop them
> on that last drive???
WF really did not have any problem moving the ball on LB. It was just a LOT of critical mistakes and not finishing drives. Heck, they had 20 first downs to LB's 14. Realistically WF should have scored 2-3 additional TD's - that's 14-21 points. But they didn't... and it could have/should have lost them the game.
>
> This was a stunning defeat that could have been
> avoided. How was it that stud AJ Alexander was
> virtually shut out in this game?
WF defense has been under-rated all season. They are pretty darn good. Never let up more than 28 points in a game all season. In 3 PO games they have given up 42 points (12+14+16)... CVille has allowed 62 points in their last 2 PO games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Just saying
()
Date: December 04, 2013 10:21AM
RydellRoad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > Good, but not great. Westfield has a one
> > dimensional offense and how does LB not stop
> them
> > on that last drive???
>
> WF really did not have any problem moving the ball
> on LB. It was just a LOT of critical mistakes and
> not finishing drives. Heck, they had 20 first
> downs to LB's 14. Realistically WF should have
> scored 2-3 additional TD's - that's 14-21 points.
> But they didn't... and it could have/should have
> lost them the game.
>
> >
> > This was a stunning defeat that could have been
> > avoided. How was it that stud AJ Alexander was
> > virtually shut out in this game?
>
> WF defense has been under-rated all season. They
> are pretty darn good. Never let up more than 28
> points in a game all season. In 3 PO games they
> have given up 42 points (12+14+16)... CVille has
> allowed 62 points in their last 2 PO games.
It would be different had Westfield had played socos offense or stonewalls offense
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > Good, but not great. Westfield has a one
> > dimensional offense and how does LB not stop
> them
> > on that last drive???
>
> WF really did not have any problem moving the ball
> on LB. It was just a LOT of critical mistakes and
> not finishing drives. Heck, they had 20 first
> downs to LB's 14. Realistically WF should have
> scored 2-3 additional TD's - that's 14-21 points.
> But they didn't... and it could have/should have
> lost them the game.
>
> >
> > This was a stunning defeat that could have been
> > avoided. How was it that stud AJ Alexander was
> > virtually shut out in this game?
>
> WF defense has been under-rated all season. They
> are pretty darn good. Never let up more than 28
> points in a game all season. In 3 PO games they
> have given up 42 points (12+14+16)... CVille has
> allowed 62 points in their last 2 PO games.
It would be different had Westfield had played socos offense or stonewalls offense
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: December 04, 2013 11:39AM
Stranger things have happened in Concorde District play y'all. C-ville might be the better team but the better doesn't always win..Remember when Robinson was going to go undefeated and on Monday night westfield beat them 21-20? or how about when Chantilly beat WHS in the playoffs in 2006 after getting schmaked in the regular season? If WHS comes out and wins I would not be surprised in the least bit.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
you beat me to it...
()
Date: December 04, 2013 11:50AM
Just saying Wrote:
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> RydellRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldong Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> It would be different had Westfield had played
> socos offense or stonewalls offense
and Cville has allowed 62 points in their last 3 playoff games. Why not include the shutout??
-------------------------------------------------------
> RydellRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldong Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> It would be different had Westfield had played
> socos offense or stonewalls offense
and Cville has allowed 62 points in their last 3 playoff games. Why not include the shutout??
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 04, 2013 12:10PM
you beat me to it... Wrote:
> Why not include the shutout??
It's a more dramatic comparison that way, but sure, WF has given up 30 points in last 2 games while C'ville has allowed 62.
LB scored 595 points this year - that's more than Westfield has ever put up in a single season. WF held them to 28 and 16. Not bad. C'ville also got 28 in the first game. If WF holds them to 16 I think they have a shot at winning. Now do I expect that to happen? No. But that's why the play the game.
> Why not include the shutout??
It's a more dramatic comparison that way, but sure, WF has given up 30 points in last 2 games while C'ville has allowed 62.
LB scored 595 points this year - that's more than Westfield has ever put up in a single season. WF held them to 28 and 16. Not bad. C'ville also got 28 in the first game. If WF holds them to 16 I think they have a shot at winning. Now do I expect that to happen? No. But that's why the play the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 04, 2013 12:35PM
> >
> > It would be different had Westfield had played
> > socos offense or stonewalls offense
>
>
> and Cville has allowed 62 points in their last 3
> playoff games. Why not include the shutout??
...and 6 or the 62 were garbage pts put up late in the 4th Q by SJ's 1st team against Cville's 2nd team.
> > It would be different had Westfield had played
> > socos offense or stonewalls offense
>
>
> and Cville has allowed 62 points in their last 3
> playoff games. Why not include the shutout??
...and 6 or the 62 were garbage pts put up late in the 4th Q by SJ's 1st team against Cville's 2nd team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 04, 2013 12:38PM
RydellRoad,
You are correct, Westfield does have a very solid defense, they typically don't get credit where credit is due. First game against Centreville I think Westfield had 4 or 5 starters out, 2 DT's, 1 DE, 1 LB, and 1 DB was playing on a bum knee, don't think he lasted the game.
However, to beat have any chance to beat Centreville this weekend Westfield cannot turn the ball over as much as they did the first go round. I think Centreville might have only recovered 2 fumbles but there were another 2 or 3 fumbled snaps. This past weekend Westfield was consistently in LB's red zone but a stop on 4th and goal, 2 horribly thrown passes turned INT's, and a fumble doomed any scoring ability.
Seems Westfield hasn't realized that their QB this year is not as good as last year’s QB at throwing the deep ball. They would be smart to throw short quick passes, especially given Centreville's ability to apply pressure. But to have a real chance to move the ball and score points against Centreville it would probably be smart to copy what SOCO did.
Centreville had a terrible time defending the option in that game, Westfield has run the Wildcat formation a great deal over the past 4 or 5 weeks. Burns, #1 on Westfield is the QB in that package, he's much faster and a better athlete than #4 for SOCO. Burns also doesn't have a bad arm which would help slow the run blitz. If you compare QB's with #1 under center, FB's, and RB's between SOCO and Westfield I would give the Bulldogs the advantage. Add a pretty decent sized line and who knows, maybe they can score enough points to win.
Of course, all just an opinion of someone who's seen a ton of high school football over the years and coached a few games. I can tell you one thing, if Westfield doesn't change up their offense this weekend doesn't matter how good their defense plays, Centreville will win!
You are correct, Westfield does have a very solid defense, they typically don't get credit where credit is due. First game against Centreville I think Westfield had 4 or 5 starters out, 2 DT's, 1 DE, 1 LB, and 1 DB was playing on a bum knee, don't think he lasted the game.
However, to beat have any chance to beat Centreville this weekend Westfield cannot turn the ball over as much as they did the first go round. I think Centreville might have only recovered 2 fumbles but there were another 2 or 3 fumbled snaps. This past weekend Westfield was consistently in LB's red zone but a stop on 4th and goal, 2 horribly thrown passes turned INT's, and a fumble doomed any scoring ability.
Seems Westfield hasn't realized that their QB this year is not as good as last year’s QB at throwing the deep ball. They would be smart to throw short quick passes, especially given Centreville's ability to apply pressure. But to have a real chance to move the ball and score points against Centreville it would probably be smart to copy what SOCO did.
Centreville had a terrible time defending the option in that game, Westfield has run the Wildcat formation a great deal over the past 4 or 5 weeks. Burns, #1 on Westfield is the QB in that package, he's much faster and a better athlete than #4 for SOCO. Burns also doesn't have a bad arm which would help slow the run blitz. If you compare QB's with #1 under center, FB's, and RB's between SOCO and Westfield I would give the Bulldogs the advantage. Add a pretty decent sized line and who knows, maybe they can score enough points to win.
Of course, all just an opinion of someone who's seen a ton of high school football over the years and coached a few games. I can tell you one thing, if Westfield doesn't change up their offense this weekend doesn't matter how good their defense plays, Centreville will win!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 04, 2013 12:51PM
Fan Wrote:
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> Seems Westfield hasn't realized that their QB this
> year is not as good as last year’s QB at
> throwing the deep ball.
Oh, I think they realize it - that's part of the reason why Burns has been playing QB more.
> I can tell you one thing,if Westfield doesn't change up their offense this
> weekend doesn't matter how good their defense plays, Centreville will win!
No question about it. I'd play Burns every down.
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> Seems Westfield hasn't realized that their QB this
> year is not as good as last year’s QB at
> throwing the deep ball.
Oh, I think they realize it - that's part of the reason why Burns has been playing QB more.
> I can tell you one thing,if Westfield doesn't change up their offense this
> weekend doesn't matter how good their defense plays, Centreville will win!
No question about it. I'd play Burns every down.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 04, 2013 01:11PM
Fan Wrote:
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>
> You are correct, Westfield does have a very solid
> defense, they typically don't get credit where
> credit is due. First game against Centreville I
> think Westfield had 4 or 5 starters out, 2 DT's, 1
> DE, 1 LB, and 1 DB was playing on a bum knee,
> don't think he lasted the game.
>
Agreed, and as a CVHS fan I am worried sick about this game. There is nothing worse than being a favorite, but playing an underdog who you have beaten before, but is on a roll and playing with nothing to lose. Westfield knows all about this scenario, being on the wrong end of the last two region finals.
IF CVHS loses this game, the season will be looked upon much differently than if they lose to a heavy favorite like Oscar Smith.
CVHS is very beatable. Their defense has shown they can be scored upon. Other than Wiggins they don't get much pass rush. Their offense relies more on big plays than sustained drives.
I just hope they aren't looking ahead, they focus on the game at hand. I predict a great game.
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>
> You are correct, Westfield does have a very solid
> defense, they typically don't get credit where
> credit is due. First game against Centreville I
> think Westfield had 4 or 5 starters out, 2 DT's, 1
> DE, 1 LB, and 1 DB was playing on a bum knee,
> don't think he lasted the game.
>
Agreed, and as a CVHS fan I am worried sick about this game. There is nothing worse than being a favorite, but playing an underdog who you have beaten before, but is on a roll and playing with nothing to lose. Westfield knows all about this scenario, being on the wrong end of the last two region finals.
IF CVHS loses this game, the season will be looked upon much differently than if they lose to a heavy favorite like Oscar Smith.
CVHS is very beatable. Their defense has shown they can be scored upon. Other than Wiggins they don't get much pass rush. Their offense relies more on big plays than sustained drives.
I just hope they aren't looking ahead, they focus on the game at hand. I predict a great game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
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Date: December 04, 2013 01:51PM
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I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
GO BULLDOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 04, 2013 02:48PM
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: December 04, 2013 03:22PM
NRFan Wrote:
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> I
> I BELIEVE
> I BELIEVE THAT
> I BELIEVE THAT WE
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
>
> GO BULLDOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LETS GO BULLDOGS!!!!!
On another note this game I think will be very good, hopefully WHS can win this time around....I mean third time's a charm no?
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> I
> I BELIEVE
> I BELIEVE THAT
> I BELIEVE THAT WE
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
> I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
>
> GO BULLDOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LETS GO BULLDOGS!!!!!
On another note this game I think will be very good, hopefully WHS can win this time around....I mean third time's a charm no?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
GodIs
()
Date: December 04, 2013 08:20PM
"Niggers" Really???
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
HighSchoolFB
()
Date: December 04, 2013 08:21PM
Really "Niggers"
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde Fan
()
Date: December 04, 2013 08:42PM
It's always good to see the Concorde teams representing in the finals, especially a rivalry game like Cville-Westfield. For those predicting a close game, does this come down to special teams? Watching the WF-LB game, that's what made the difference - WF blocked a PAT and got another chance at one they missed, converting it for the lead. LB didn't hit a FG well, so WF scooped it up and took it to the house. Those of you who are looking at this weekend's game objectively, what do you think? From what I've seen this season, I'd give the special teams edge to Cville.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
"The" Nothern Region Game
()
Date: December 04, 2013 08:45PM
RydellRoad Wrote:
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> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131204/SPORT
> S/131209535/1267/westfield-turns-attention-to-cent
> reville&template=fairfaxTimes
Does this article seem to hint that Thrasher Walker is not playing?
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> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131204/SPORT
> S/131209535/1267/westfield-turns-attention-to-cent
> reville&template=fairfaxTimes
Does this article seem to hint that Thrasher Walker is not playing?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 04, 2013 08:50PM
Who's better:
Special teams: Centreville
Defense: Westfield
Offense: Centreville
Best Quarterback: Centreville
Game Control: Westfield
Best Coach: Centreville
Winning team: Who knows? Centreville has the edge.
Special teams: Centreville
Defense: Westfield
Offense: Centreville
Best Quarterback: Centreville
Game Control: Westfield
Best Coach: Centreville
Winning team: Who knows? Centreville has the edge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
MyxB2
()
Date: December 04, 2013 09:23PM
I was lurking on this site to see if I could get the scoop on NORVA football before the Colonial Forge vs Oscar Smith game. I guess the not so talented programs in Hampton Roads likely feel the same way about the top teams “Recruiting” players, thus cheating to get ahead. Why is it assumed that cheating to get better is more likely than having highly developed feeder programs? Hampton Roads has Pop Warner Little League teams that perennially battle for a spot in the National Championship game. The Summer passing leagues down here are filled with players that are invited to top tier training camps throughout the country. As these kids build friendships and tight bonds at these events, they collectively plan to all play for the better high school programs. This is no different than academically gifted students looking to attend a Governors School, IB program, or attend private schools to make themselves scholarship worthy. Parents move to provide the best opportunities possible for their child in both circumstances. The only difference is that recruiting actually occurs in High School Academia.
The smartest kids in school study the hardest because they want to be the best, and the best athletes work the hardest too. The rest of us can only be fans of their abilities, hard work, focus and dedication. We should not be envious!
The smartest kids in school study the hardest because they want to be the best, and the best athletes work the hardest too. The rest of us can only be fans of their abilities, hard work, focus and dedication. We should not be envious!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 04, 2013 09:50PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Who's better:
>
> Special teams: Centreville
> Defense: Westfield
> Offense: Centreville
> Best Quarterback: Centreville
> Game Control: Westfield
> Best Coach: Centreville
>
> Winning team: Who knows? Centreville has the
> edge.
How can you give Defensive edge to Westfield when Centreville beat them 28-0 in the first meeting. Look at the similar opponents:
Robinson - Cville D gave up 9 pts, Westfield D gave up 13 and 14 the 2nd time
Chantilly -Cville D gave up 0 pts, Westfield D gave up 17
Herndon - Cville D gave up 20 pts, Westfield D gave up 28
Oakton - Cville D gave up 21, but 1st team only gave up 7, Westfield gave up 7
Hayfield - Cville D gave up 7 pts, Westfield D gave up 13, and 12 the 2nd time
South Lakes - Cville D gave up 0 pts, Westfield D gave up 7.
Westfield has a very good Defense, but I would not give them the edge.
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> Who's better:
>
> Special teams: Centreville
> Defense: Westfield
> Offense: Centreville
> Best Quarterback: Centreville
> Game Control: Westfield
> Best Coach: Centreville
>
> Winning team: Who knows? Centreville has the
> edge.
How can you give Defensive edge to Westfield when Centreville beat them 28-0 in the first meeting. Look at the similar opponents:
Robinson - Cville D gave up 9 pts, Westfield D gave up 13 and 14 the 2nd time
Chantilly -Cville D gave up 0 pts, Westfield D gave up 17
Herndon - Cville D gave up 20 pts, Westfield D gave up 28
Oakton - Cville D gave up 21, but 1st team only gave up 7, Westfield gave up 7
Hayfield - Cville D gave up 7 pts, Westfield D gave up 13, and 12 the 2nd time
South Lakes - Cville D gave up 0 pts, Westfield D gave up 7.
Westfield has a very good Defense, but I would not give them the edge.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 04, 2013 10:08PM
Interesting Wrote:
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> Herndon - Cville D gave up 20 pts, Westfield D
> gave up 28
If you want to get really technical here Westfield's starting D didn't give up any of those 28. They started to pull starters after the first quarter when they went up 28-0.
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> Herndon - Cville D gave up 20 pts, Westfield D
> gave up 28
If you want to get really technical here Westfield's starting D didn't give up any of those 28. They started to pull starters after the first quarter when they went up 28-0.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 04, 2013 10:38PM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Interesting Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Herndon - Cville D gave up 20 pts, Westfield D
> > gave up 28
>
> If you want to get really technical here
> Westfield's starting D didn't give up any of those
> 28. They started to pull starters after the first
> quarter when they went up 28-0.
For the Herndon game, can make a similar statement. Cvill score against Herndon was 42-7 in the 2nd Q, so the 1st team D didn't actually give up 20 pts.
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> Interesting Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Herndon - Cville D gave up 20 pts, Westfield D
> > gave up 28
>
> If you want to get really technical here
> Westfield's starting D didn't give up any of those
> 28. They started to pull starters after the first
> quarter when they went up 28-0.
For the Herndon game, can make a similar statement. Cvill score against Herndon was 42-7 in the 2nd Q, so the 1st team D didn't actually give up 20 pts.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tyler Thrasher-Walker
()
Date: December 05, 2013 12:04AM
"The" Nothern Region Game Wrote:
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> RydellRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131204/SPORT
>
> >
> S/131209535/1267/westfield-turns-attention-to-cent
>
> > reville&template=fairfaxTimes
>
>
> Does this article seem to hint that Thrasher
> Walker is not playing?
Yup! I heard he blew out his knee. So, unless Westfield holds Cville to 0 points, sorry to say they ain't winning...
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> RydellRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131204/SPORT
>
> >
> S/131209535/1267/westfield-turns-attention-to-cent
>
> > reville&template=fairfaxTimes
>
>
> Does this article seem to hint that Thrasher
> Walker is not playing?
Yup! I heard he blew out his knee. So, unless Westfield holds Cville to 0 points, sorry to say they ain't winning...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 05, 2013 12:15AM
Wow! If he's not playing, I'd say Westfield's chances are now very slim. CVille/OSmith here we come...
On another front... might Briar Woods and North Stafford be a better game to drive out to watch this weekend?
On another front... might Briar Woods and North Stafford be a better game to drive out to watch this weekend?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: December 05, 2013 02:17AM
Tyler Thrasher-Walker Wrote:
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> "The" Nothern Region Game Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > RydellRoad Wrote:
> >
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> > >
> >
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131204/SPORT
>
> >
> > >
> >
> S/131209535/1267/westfield-turns-attention-to-cent
>
> >
> > > reville&template=fairfaxTimes
> >
> >
> > Does this article seem to hint that Thrasher
> > Walker is not playing?
>
> Yup! I heard he blew out his knee. So, unless
> Westfield holds Cville to 0 points, sorry to say
> they ain't winning...
Do not write off Evans because he is a good back. If you look at some of his film he does have speed, is elusive and has good vision. In addition to that, he is a much bigger back than Thrasher-Walker.
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> "The" Nothern Region Game Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > RydellRoad Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > >
> >
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131204/SPORT
>
> >
> > >
> >
> S/131209535/1267/westfield-turns-attention-to-cent
>
> >
> > > reville&template=fairfaxTimes
> >
> >
> > Does this article seem to hint that Thrasher
> > Walker is not playing?
>
> Yup! I heard he blew out his knee. So, unless
> Westfield holds Cville to 0 points, sorry to say
> they ain't winning...
Do not write off Evans because he is a good back. If you look at some of his film he does have speed, is elusive and has good vision. In addition to that, he is a much bigger back than Thrasher-Walker.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Champe
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:56AM
Briar Woods has apparently shifted the site to the new turf at John Champe HS. Good move, as North Stafford would gain an advantage on a slow, muddy surface. Briar-Broad Run game chewed up the field last week.
19-7 score from first game was legit, as North Stafford earned the win. Still,look for a very close game, with Briar having a real shot at it.
I think they fall just short because of the disadvantage they have on both sides of the line.
Trip to finals at stake, not so much chance at state championship. That belongs to L.C. Bird from Chesterfield.
19-7 score from first game was legit, as North Stafford earned the win. Still,look for a very close game, with Briar having a real shot at it.
I think they fall just short because of the disadvantage they have on both sides of the line.
Trip to finals at stake, not so much chance at state championship. That belongs to L.C. Bird from Chesterfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 10:07AM
Champe Wrote:
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> Briar Woods has apparently shifted the site to the
> new turf at John Champe HS. Good move, as North
> Stafford would gain an advantage on a slow, muddy
> surface. Briar-Broad Run game chewed up the field
> last week.
>
> 19-7 score from first game was legit, as North
> Stafford earned the win. Still,look for a very
> close game, with Briar having a real shot at it.
>
> I think they fall just short because of the
> disadvantage they have on both sides of the line.
>
> Trip to finals at stake, not so much chance at
> state championship. That belongs to L.C. Bird
> from Chesterfield.
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Good points re BW-NS. It's tough to beat a good team twice in 1 year. Also agree about Bird. The defending D6 champ should be favored in D5 if it gets by Salem. The team is undefeated and has beaten Lake Taylor and Hermy. Any chance Salem takes down Bird? Salem was beating OLakes late but gave up 2 Q4 TDs and lost. Concorde teams arguably are more battle-tested this year than teams such as Bird, Smith and a OLakes. When not used to trailing, some teams don't respond like C'Ville did vs SoCo and Westfield did v LB. I saw the Smith-Lake Taylor opener which was cool bc it was the defending D5 and D6 champs. Yet that was over 3 months ago and I haven't see Westfield or Salem play. Am going to C'Cille this weekend to see which team will rep the South.
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> Briar Woods has apparently shifted the site to the
> new turf at John Champe HS. Good move, as North
> Stafford would gain an advantage on a slow, muddy
> surface. Briar-Broad Run game chewed up the field
> last week.
>
> 19-7 score from first game was legit, as North
> Stafford earned the win. Still,look for a very
> close game, with Briar having a real shot at it.
>
> I think they fall just short because of the
> disadvantage they have on both sides of the line.
>
> Trip to finals at stake, not so much chance at
> state championship. That belongs to L.C. Bird
> from Chesterfield.
--------
Good points re BW-NS. It's tough to beat a good team twice in 1 year. Also agree about Bird. The defending D6 champ should be favored in D5 if it gets by Salem. The team is undefeated and has beaten Lake Taylor and Hermy. Any chance Salem takes down Bird? Salem was beating OLakes late but gave up 2 Q4 TDs and lost. Concorde teams arguably are more battle-tested this year than teams such as Bird, Smith and a OLakes. When not used to trailing, some teams don't respond like C'Ville did vs SoCo and Westfield did v LB. I saw the Smith-Lake Taylor opener which was cool bc it was the defending D5 and D6 champs. Yet that was over 3 months ago and I haven't see Westfield or Salem play. Am going to C'Cille this weekend to see which team will rep the South.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RamSportsSwag
()
Date: December 05, 2013 10:17AM
Watch out for the Robinson Rams next year. Although losing key seniors like Matt Choi (OL/DL), JP Vittori (offers from NOVA, CNU and Maine) and Charlie Phillips (H), the rams are poised to make a miraculous state title run in 2014. Anchored on the offense by Matt Strain (C) and all-state worthy Eric Williams (G). Williams also heads a strong defense, with the possible return of Rafay Rana along with the standout corner Marcus Denham. The will have to do this with a new coach, but look to be a strong contender in the Northern Region.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Swag Sports
()
Date: December 05, 2013 10:21AM
Joe Wilson who? I heard they have a new rising star RB Sean Foncha who has potential to shatter his records along with FB Matt Ryan
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Fan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 10:23AM
Not to look ahead or anything, but I (as a CVille Fan) had no idea the power the Robinson Rams will posses in 2014, watch out Concorde, Eric Williams and the Rams are the real deal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cpt. Morgan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 11:25AM
and as always we will be better than Robinson...*insert 21-20 win over Robinson here*
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Ditka Fan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 12:18PM
Going to go the Centreville Westfield game this weekend with 10,000 other people. Look for a better game than earlier this year but also think it will be tough for Westfield to beat a healthy Centreville. I am going with a score of 30-17.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: December 05, 2013 01:25PM
28-0 Cats- Again!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 05, 2013 01:37PM
Ditka Fan Wrote:
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> Going to go the Centreville Westfield game this
> weekend with 10,000 other people. Look for a
> better game than earlier this year but also think
> it will be tough for Westfield to beat a healthy
> Centreville. I am going with a score of 30-17.
Yes 10,000 people, thankfully my kid got my ticket today. Ticket line was horrible last week, can't imagine what it will be like this week when probably twice as many people will be there. I'll go for 24-14 CV.
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> Going to go the Centreville Westfield game this
> weekend with 10,000 other people. Look for a
> better game than earlier this year but also think
> it will be tough for Westfield to beat a healthy
> Centreville. I am going with a score of 30-17.
Yes 10,000 people, thankfully my kid got my ticket today. Ticket line was horrible last week, can't imagine what it will be like this week when probably twice as many people will be there. I'll go for 24-14 CV.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
C'Ville is a joke!
()
Date: December 05, 2013 02:31PM
Please, you mean they got dominated two years ago by the same team they are going to get DOMINATED by next week!!
Go Tigers!!
Go Tigers!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EFF EWE
()
Date: December 05, 2013 03:01PM
Will be happy to see Centreville take its chances against the college team from Oscar Smith. Is Oscar Smith transferring in even more players these next two weeks, hear that the Redskins are out of the playoffs maybe Oscar Smith can get a few of those guys to transfer in....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Agreed
()
Date: December 05, 2013 05:04PM
Ditka Fan Wrote:
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> Going to go the Centreville Westfield game this
> weekend with 10,000 other people. Look for a
> better game than earlier this year but also think
> it will be tough for Westfield to beat a healthy
> Centreville. I am going with a score of 30-17.
Tyler Love and Nickens-Yzer are healthier than ever. Nickens-Yzer was finally cleared to resume his duties on offense. It's been several weeks so I expect him to be rusty running the ball however, he's healthy enough to resume his prowess in making lanes for #23 on the sweeps. So watch for the long and sustained drives to return this week for Cville...Cant wait!!!
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> Going to go the Centreville Westfield game this
> weekend with 10,000 other people. Look for a
> better game than earlier this year but also think
> it will be tough for Westfield to beat a healthy
> Centreville. I am going with a score of 30-17.
Tyler Love and Nickens-Yzer are healthier than ever. Nickens-Yzer was finally cleared to resume his duties on offense. It's been several weeks so I expect him to be rusty running the ball however, he's healthy enough to resume his prowess in making lanes for #23 on the sweeps. So watch for the long and sustained drives to return this week for Cville...Cant wait!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 05:32PM
Speaking of health except for Thrasher-Walker Westfield too is as healthy as they've been all season. Those of you who don't think Evan Gray is a comparable RB are mistaken. He's close to Thrasher-Walkers speed but 20 pounds heavier. Chase Koon, Westfields DT is playing FB, there's a 250 pound back, he's played the position before.
Oh, and remember the LT, RG, TE, DT, DE, MLB, and S that missed the first Westfield-Centreville game are back. Think that will be a huge plus, especially on the O line.
Oh, and remember the LT, RG, TE, DT, DE, MLB, and S that missed the first Westfield-Centreville game are back. Think that will be a huge plus, especially on the O line.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan here (been too long)
()
Date: December 05, 2013 05:37PM
Hi all, hsfballfan here. Yes it is me (I understand that there have been some impostors over the last few weeks, not surprised). Shout out to Coach, Interesting, Keeping It Real, Eastern VA Fan, Rydell Road, Nat4Lee, Steve2K, Viking, The Kicker, Rootboy (even you my old nemesis-smile), and there appear to be some additional similarly serious posters such as VTBoy, CatDad, Mysterio Maco, Inquisitive One, NewgateDenizen, Fan, Just Saying, Cpt Morgan, others (sure I am missing some good posters, sorry - no slight intended).
Well even though I left for awhile I could not resist the temptation to comment on a Centreville Westfield state semis!!!!! Saturday will be nirvana. Well here goes.
Although I would have loved to see Centreville take Henderson and the boys to the cleaners there is nothing better for a CVille fan than to have Westfield in the mix for the state semis. You have the state semis, holy cow - winner goes to Charlottesville baby. You have 10,000 fans on a Saturday afternoon watching NOVA football. And of course you have the Centreville Wfield rivalry (think Mich OSU, Cowboys Redskins, etc.). Place will be hopping and I will be yelling with all the rest. So what will happen? Surprise surprise I did a little film study and some computing and here it is. 28-14 CVille wins.
How did I get there? Well first my fellow serious posters will remember a few weeks back I suggested a CVille 35-21 win over Lake Braddock if that matchup were to happen. Well I modify to 28-14 here because Westfield's defense is better than LB's but WF's offense still has some to prove. How do I see the game going? Of course everyone will be amped up to start and I actually see each team scoring a touchdown early on. The question will come around the 2nd quarter. I sense that Centreville although maybe shut down on a possession or two is going to score fairly consistently. Question will be whether Westfield with Evan Gray, Devon Burns, and the coach says he will possible even play sophomore Donteiro Moore a bit at RB consistently cash in on multiple drives. I think it is possible but not probable. Remember why Centreville had relative trouble with SOCO and some with Stonewall. Fast, athletic QBs. I think Westfield unless they really pull some rabbits out with tons of Devon Burns with wildcat offense etc will be too predictable. That plays in the hands of Cville's Defense. Also remember that Tyler Love is now back after injury which is really big. He anchors the middle of the field with sure tackling which will allow Chad Wiggins and others to roam.
Additionally there is a lot of talk of redemption for Westfield losing the last two years in the NR finals and also revenge for the 2011 game against Centreville. That might play a factor in a lesser game but do you think that CVille is going to be anything less than totally amped up in its own house with a state bid on the line to perhaps go and upset Oscar Smith (its own burr in the saddle)? Plus there is still enough of the Westfield winning all the time in years past against CVille to push them even further. I was more worried about the SOCO and Stonewall games because of the lack of familiarity. This game is like two brothers wrestling in the basement. I will be very surprised if either team is even close to being flat. So this will come down to athletes. Westfield has impressed me with the aforementioned offensive players and Sevener, Gibson, etc. on defense. But just not the same as CVille. Edge on athletes for Centreville, I think a wash on coaching, and of course a little homerism, that all gets me to a CVille win.
Peace out friends. Keep it classy Fairfax Underground!
hsfballfan
Well even though I left for awhile I could not resist the temptation to comment on a Centreville Westfield state semis!!!!! Saturday will be nirvana. Well here goes.
Although I would have loved to see Centreville take Henderson and the boys to the cleaners there is nothing better for a CVille fan than to have Westfield in the mix for the state semis. You have the state semis, holy cow - winner goes to Charlottesville baby. You have 10,000 fans on a Saturday afternoon watching NOVA football. And of course you have the Centreville Wfield rivalry (think Mich OSU, Cowboys Redskins, etc.). Place will be hopping and I will be yelling with all the rest. So what will happen? Surprise surprise I did a little film study and some computing and here it is. 28-14 CVille wins.
How did I get there? Well first my fellow serious posters will remember a few weeks back I suggested a CVille 35-21 win over Lake Braddock if that matchup were to happen. Well I modify to 28-14 here because Westfield's defense is better than LB's but WF's offense still has some to prove. How do I see the game going? Of course everyone will be amped up to start and I actually see each team scoring a touchdown early on. The question will come around the 2nd quarter. I sense that Centreville although maybe shut down on a possession or two is going to score fairly consistently. Question will be whether Westfield with Evan Gray, Devon Burns, and the coach says he will possible even play sophomore Donteiro Moore a bit at RB consistently cash in on multiple drives. I think it is possible but not probable. Remember why Centreville had relative trouble with SOCO and some with Stonewall. Fast, athletic QBs. I think Westfield unless they really pull some rabbits out with tons of Devon Burns with wildcat offense etc will be too predictable. That plays in the hands of Cville's Defense. Also remember that Tyler Love is now back after injury which is really big. He anchors the middle of the field with sure tackling which will allow Chad Wiggins and others to roam.
Additionally there is a lot of talk of redemption for Westfield losing the last two years in the NR finals and also revenge for the 2011 game against Centreville. That might play a factor in a lesser game but do you think that CVille is going to be anything less than totally amped up in its own house with a state bid on the line to perhaps go and upset Oscar Smith (its own burr in the saddle)? Plus there is still enough of the Westfield winning all the time in years past against CVille to push them even further. I was more worried about the SOCO and Stonewall games because of the lack of familiarity. This game is like two brothers wrestling in the basement. I will be very surprised if either team is even close to being flat. So this will come down to athletes. Westfield has impressed me with the aforementioned offensive players and Sevener, Gibson, etc. on defense. But just not the same as CVille. Edge on athletes for Centreville, I think a wash on coaching, and of course a little homerism, that all gets me to a CVille win.
Peace out friends. Keep it classy Fairfax Underground!
hsfballfan
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hey...
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:03PM
hsfballfan here (been too long) Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi all, hsfballfan here. Yes it is me (I
> understand that there have been some impostors
> over the last few weeks, not surprised). Shout
> out to Coach, Interesting, Keeping It Real,
> Eastern VA Fan, Rydell Road, Nat4Lee, Steve2K,
> Viking, The Kicker, Rootboy (even you my old
> nemesis-smile), and there appear to be some
> additional similarly serious posters such as
> VTBoy, CatDad, Mysterio Maco, Inquisitive One,
> NewgateDenizen, Fan, Just Saying, Cpt Morgan,
> others (sure I am missing some good posters, sorry
> - no slight intended).
>
> Well even though I left for awhile I could not
> resist the temptation to comment on a Centreville
> Westfield state semis!!!!! Saturday will be
> nirvana. Well here goes.
>
> Although I would have loved to see Centreville
> take Henderson and the boys to the cleaners there
> is nothing better for a CVille fan than to have
> Westfield in the mix for the state semis. You have
> the state semis, holy cow - winner goes to
> Charlottesville baby. You have 10,000 fans on a
> Saturday afternoon watching NOVA football. And of
> course you have the Centreville Wfield rivalry
> (think Mich OSU, Cowboys Redskins, etc.). Place
> will be hopping and I will be yelling with all the
> rest. So what will happen? Surprise surprise I
> did a little film study and some computing and
> here it is. 28-14 CVille wins.
>
> How did I get there? Well first my fellow serious
> posters will remember a few weeks back I suggested
> a CVille 35-21 win over Lake Braddock if that
> matchup were to happen. Well I modify to 28-14
> here because Westfield's defense is better than
> LB's but WF's offense still has some to prove.
> How do I see the game going? Of course everyone
> will be amped up to start and I actually see each
> team scoring a touchdown early on. The question
> will come around the 2nd quarter. I sense that
> Centreville although maybe shut down on a
> possession or two is going to score fairly
> consistently. Question will be whether Westfield
> with Evan Gray, Devon Burns, and the coach says he
> will possible even play sophomore Donteiro Moore a
> bit at RB consistently cash in on multiple drives.
> I think it is possible but not probable.
> Remember why Centreville had relative trouble with
> SOCO and some with Stonewall. Fast, athletic QBs.
> I think Westfield unless they really pull some
> rabbits out with tons of Devon Burns with wildcat
> offense etc will be too predictable. That plays
> in the hands of Cville's Defense. Also remember
> that Tyler Love is now back after injury which is
> really big. He anchors the middle of the field
> with sure tackling which will allow Chad Wiggins
> and others to roam.
>
> Additionally there is a lot of talk of redemption
> for Westfield losing the last two years in the NR
> finals and also revenge for the 2011 game against
> Centreville. That might play a factor in a lesser
> game but do you think that CVille is going to be
> anything less than totally amped up in its own
> house with a state bid on the line to perhaps go
> and upset Oscar Smith (its own burr in the
> saddle)? Plus there is still enough of the
> Westfield winning all the time in years past
> against CVille to push them even further. I was
> more worried about the SOCO and Stonewall games
> because of the lack of familiarity. This game is
> like two brothers wrestling in the basement. I
> will be very surprised if either team is even
> close to being flat. So this will come down to
> athletes. Westfield has impressed me with the
> aforementioned offensive players and Sevener,
> Gibson, etc. on defense. But just not the same as
> CVille. Edge on athletes for Centreville, I think
> a wash on coaching, and of course a little
> homerism, that all gets me to a CVille win.
>
> Peace out friends. Keep it classy Fairfax
> Underground!
> hsfballfan
Welcome back HSFBALLFAN! It indeed has been too long. Your analysis looks about right to me. The only thing that I disagree with is your final score.
The last time these two teams met, both offenses were only able to run due to the monsoon. Given the forecast for Saturday, I expect both teams to do more passing. Because I give the passing edge to Cville (by a wide margin), I expect this game to not be as close as you think. My guess is 49-14 as a final score.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi all, hsfballfan here. Yes it is me (I
> understand that there have been some impostors
> over the last few weeks, not surprised). Shout
> out to Coach, Interesting, Keeping It Real,
> Eastern VA Fan, Rydell Road, Nat4Lee, Steve2K,
> Viking, The Kicker, Rootboy (even you my old
> nemesis-smile), and there appear to be some
> additional similarly serious posters such as
> VTBoy, CatDad, Mysterio Maco, Inquisitive One,
> NewgateDenizen, Fan, Just Saying, Cpt Morgan,
> others (sure I am missing some good posters, sorry
> - no slight intended).
>
> Well even though I left for awhile I could not
> resist the temptation to comment on a Centreville
> Westfield state semis!!!!! Saturday will be
> nirvana. Well here goes.
>
> Although I would have loved to see Centreville
> take Henderson and the boys to the cleaners there
> is nothing better for a CVille fan than to have
> Westfield in the mix for the state semis. You have
> the state semis, holy cow - winner goes to
> Charlottesville baby. You have 10,000 fans on a
> Saturday afternoon watching NOVA football. And of
> course you have the Centreville Wfield rivalry
> (think Mich OSU, Cowboys Redskins, etc.). Place
> will be hopping and I will be yelling with all the
> rest. So what will happen? Surprise surprise I
> did a little film study and some computing and
> here it is. 28-14 CVille wins.
>
> How did I get there? Well first my fellow serious
> posters will remember a few weeks back I suggested
> a CVille 35-21 win over Lake Braddock if that
> matchup were to happen. Well I modify to 28-14
> here because Westfield's defense is better than
> LB's but WF's offense still has some to prove.
> How do I see the game going? Of course everyone
> will be amped up to start and I actually see each
> team scoring a touchdown early on. The question
> will come around the 2nd quarter. I sense that
> Centreville although maybe shut down on a
> possession or two is going to score fairly
> consistently. Question will be whether Westfield
> with Evan Gray, Devon Burns, and the coach says he
> will possible even play sophomore Donteiro Moore a
> bit at RB consistently cash in on multiple drives.
> I think it is possible but not probable.
> Remember why Centreville had relative trouble with
> SOCO and some with Stonewall. Fast, athletic QBs.
> I think Westfield unless they really pull some
> rabbits out with tons of Devon Burns with wildcat
> offense etc will be too predictable. That plays
> in the hands of Cville's Defense. Also remember
> that Tyler Love is now back after injury which is
> really big. He anchors the middle of the field
> with sure tackling which will allow Chad Wiggins
> and others to roam.
>
> Additionally there is a lot of talk of redemption
> for Westfield losing the last two years in the NR
> finals and also revenge for the 2011 game against
> Centreville. That might play a factor in a lesser
> game but do you think that CVille is going to be
> anything less than totally amped up in its own
> house with a state bid on the line to perhaps go
> and upset Oscar Smith (its own burr in the
> saddle)? Plus there is still enough of the
> Westfield winning all the time in years past
> against CVille to push them even further. I was
> more worried about the SOCO and Stonewall games
> because of the lack of familiarity. This game is
> like two brothers wrestling in the basement. I
> will be very surprised if either team is even
> close to being flat. So this will come down to
> athletes. Westfield has impressed me with the
> aforementioned offensive players and Sevener,
> Gibson, etc. on defense. But just not the same as
> CVille. Edge on athletes for Centreville, I think
> a wash on coaching, and of course a little
> homerism, that all gets me to a CVille win.
>
> Peace out friends. Keep it classy Fairfax
> Underground!
> hsfballfan
Welcome back HSFBALLFAN! It indeed has been too long. Your analysis looks about right to me. The only thing that I disagree with is your final score.
The last time these two teams met, both offenses were only able to run due to the monsoon. Given the forecast for Saturday, I expect both teams to do more passing. Because I give the passing edge to Cville (by a wide margin), I expect this game to not be as close as you think. My guess is 49-14 as a final score.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:11PM
I think hsfballfan has it right. Don't ignore Westfield's defense. Still, if the game gets out of hand you might see Centreville running up a couple extra scores to turn a 10-14 point win into a blowout...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/05/2013 06:13PM by nat4lee.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/05/2013 06:13PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
welcome back
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:25PM
Good to see you on again hsfballfan. I knew the haters could not overcome your Centreville homerism. LOL
Honestly though, welcome back man!
Honestly though, welcome back man!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:26PM
Well all I saw on here last week was how badly Westfield was going to lose to LB. Lot to be said trying to beat a good team twice in the same season. Pile on the thumping Westfield took the first go round, add all the trash talk by Centreville's players at the Bulldog players and that's tons of motivation. I would expect to see a good deal of the wildcat run by Westfield, option seems to be Centreville's only weakness in D. The Bulldog skill players in that formation are a tad better than SOCO's. Plus, I'm not so sure there is such a wide desperity in talent comparing the line ups as everyone thinks. Guess that's why they play the game. I would be shocked to see Westfield give up 49, 28 is the most they've allowed this season, pretty darn good defense.
Good to hear from you hsfballfan!!!
Good to hear from you hsfballfan!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldawg
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:30PM
And the winner is....
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Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Jerry
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:34PM
Westfield wins 24-21, another instant classic.
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Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:38PM
Centreville 31-14, too explosive on offense and solid on defense as well. Just too much for Westfield to handle. If it's close going in to the 4th quarter, though, look out. Should be another great rivalry game.
Shoutout to hsfballfan, good looks my man. Good to see you back.
Shoutout to hsfballfan, good looks my man. Good to see you back.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:38PM
EFF EWE Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Will be happy to see Centreville take its chances
> against the college team from Oscar Smith. Is
> Oscar Smith transferring in even more players
> these next two weeks, hear that the Redskins are
> out of the playoffs maybe Oscar Smith can get a
> few of those guys to transfer in....
-------
Yeah, beach teams can't compete on their own, right? See lake Taylor, Ocean Lakes, Phoebus, etc., and then ask why D1 recruits so many players from there whose high schools are not named "Smith." Even go back to Percy Harvin's title team from Landstown, another school not named Smith. If you come to UVA, let's walk over to Smith's side together and tell them you think they cheat. And let's also fill out the district's anonymous web form for reporting illegal students. It's been on there for years. I don't think Smith needs any help and neither do C'Ville or Westfield. They are great programs all of which have titled and are good almost every year. Smith might not even get by Salem. We have great FB in the North but the South has a little game, too. How come you didn't complain last year when Bird beat OLakes or when Lake Taylor beat a tough Stone Bridge team?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/05/2013 06:43PM by EasternVaFan.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Will be happy to see Centreville take its chances
> against the college team from Oscar Smith. Is
> Oscar Smith transferring in even more players
> these next two weeks, hear that the Redskins are
> out of the playoffs maybe Oscar Smith can get a
> few of those guys to transfer in....
-------
Yeah, beach teams can't compete on their own, right? See lake Taylor, Ocean Lakes, Phoebus, etc., and then ask why D1 recruits so many players from there whose high schools are not named "Smith." Even go back to Percy Harvin's title team from Landstown, another school not named Smith. If you come to UVA, let's walk over to Smith's side together and tell them you think they cheat. And let's also fill out the district's anonymous web form for reporting illegal students. It's been on there for years. I don't think Smith needs any help and neither do C'Ville or Westfield. They are great programs all of which have titled and are good almost every year. Smith might not even get by Salem. We have great FB in the North but the South has a little game, too. How come you didn't complain last year when Bird beat OLakes or when Lake Taylor beat a tough Stone Bridge team?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/05/2013 06:43PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Tommy Tune
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:40PM
"THAT'S WHY THE PLAY THE GAME"
Enough of this blabber-mouthing.
Talked to me on Saturday.
Enough of this blabber-mouthing.
Talked to me on Saturday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:42PM
Hey good to hear from ya hsfballfan - you were missed. There were some crazy posts the last few weeks, glad you are back to help raise the level.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 06:45PM
Hey... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan here (been too long) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi all, hsfballfan here. Yes it is me (I
> > understand that there have been some impostors
> > over the last few weeks, not surprised). Shout
> > out to Coach, Interesting, Keeping It Real,
> > Eastern VA Fan, Rydell Road, Nat4Lee, Steve2K,
> > Viking, The Kicker, Rootboy (even you my old
> > nemesis-smile), and there appear to be some
> > additional similarly serious posters such as
> > VTBoy, CatDad, Mysterio Maco, Inquisitive One,
> > NewgateDenizen, Fan, Just Saying, Cpt Morgan,
> > others (sure I am missing some good posters,
> sorry
> > - no slight intended).
> >
> > Well even though I left for awhile I could not
> > resist the temptation to comment on a
> Centreville
> > Westfield state semis!!!!! Saturday will be
> > nirvana. Well here goes.
> >
> > Although I would have loved to see Centreville
> > take Henderson and the boys to the cleaners
> there
> > is nothing better for a CVille fan than to have
> > Westfield in the mix for the state semis. You
> have
> > the state semis, holy cow - winner goes to
> > Charlottesville baby. You have 10,000 fans on
> a
> > Saturday afternoon watching NOVA football. And
> of
> > course you have the Centreville Wfield rivalry
> > (think Mich OSU, Cowboys Redskins, etc.).
> Place
> > will be hopping and I will be yelling with all
> the
> > rest. So what will happen? Surprise surprise
> I
> > did a little film study and some computing and
> > here it is. 28-14 CVille wins.
> >
> > How did I get there? Well first my fellow
> serious
> > posters will remember a few weeks back I
> suggested
> > a CVille 35-21 win over Lake Braddock if that
> > matchup were to happen. Well I modify to 28-14
> > here because Westfield's defense is better than
> > LB's but WF's offense still has some to prove.
> > How do I see the game going? Of course
> everyone
> > will be amped up to start and I actually see
> each
> > team scoring a touchdown early on. The
> question
> > will come around the 2nd quarter. I sense that
> > Centreville although maybe shut down on a
> > possession or two is going to score fairly
> > consistently. Question will be whether
> Westfield
> > with Evan Gray, Devon Burns, and the coach says
> he
> > will possible even play sophomore Donteiro Moore
> a
> > bit at RB consistently cash in on multiple
> drives.
> > I think it is possible but not probable.
> > Remember why Centreville had relative trouble
> with
> > SOCO and some with Stonewall. Fast, athletic
> QBs.
> > I think Westfield unless they really pull some
> > rabbits out with tons of Devon Burns with
> wildcat
> > offense etc will be too predictable. That
> plays
> > in the hands of Cville's Defense. Also
> remember
> > that Tyler Love is now back after injury which
> is
> > really big. He anchors the middle of the field
> > with sure tackling which will allow Chad
> Wiggins
> > and others to roam.
> >
> > Additionally there is a lot of talk of
> redemption
> > for Westfield losing the last two years in the
> NR
> > finals and also revenge for the 2011 game
> against
> > Centreville. That might play a factor in a
> lesser
> > game but do you think that CVille is going to
> be
> > anything less than totally amped up in its own
> > house with a state bid on the line to perhaps
> go
> > and upset Oscar Smith (its own burr in the
> > saddle)? Plus there is still enough of the
> > Westfield winning all the time in years past
> > against CVille to push them even further. I
> was
> > more worried about the SOCO and Stonewall games
> > because of the lack of familiarity. This game
> is
> > like two brothers wrestling in the basement. I
> > will be very surprised if either team is even
> > close to being flat. So this will come down to
> > athletes. Westfield has impressed me with the
> > aforementioned offensive players and Sevener,
> > Gibson, etc. on defense. But just not the same
> as
> > CVille. Edge on athletes for Centreville, I
> think
> > a wash on coaching, and of course a little
> > homerism, that all gets me to a CVille win.
> >
> > Peace out friends. Keep it classy Fairfax
> > Underground!
> > hsfballfan
>
>
> Welcome back HSFBALLFAN! It indeed has been too
> long. Your analysis looks about right to me. The
> only thing that I disagree with is your final
> score.
>
> The last time these two teams met, both offenses
> were only able to run due to the monsoon. Given
> the forecast for Saturday, I expect both teams to
> do more passing. Because I give the passing edge
> to Cville (by a wide margin), I expect this game
> to not be as close as you think. My guess is 49-14
> as a final score.
-------
Def welcome back!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan here (been too long) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi all, hsfballfan here. Yes it is me (I
> > understand that there have been some impostors
> > over the last few weeks, not surprised). Shout
> > out to Coach, Interesting, Keeping It Real,
> > Eastern VA Fan, Rydell Road, Nat4Lee, Steve2K,
> > Viking, The Kicker, Rootboy (even you my old
> > nemesis-smile), and there appear to be some
> > additional similarly serious posters such as
> > VTBoy, CatDad, Mysterio Maco, Inquisitive One,
> > NewgateDenizen, Fan, Just Saying, Cpt Morgan,
> > others (sure I am missing some good posters,
> sorry
> > - no slight intended).
> >
> > Well even though I left for awhile I could not
> > resist the temptation to comment on a
> Centreville
> > Westfield state semis!!!!! Saturday will be
> > nirvana. Well here goes.
> >
> > Although I would have loved to see Centreville
> > take Henderson and the boys to the cleaners
> there
> > is nothing better for a CVille fan than to have
> > Westfield in the mix for the state semis. You
> have
> > the state semis, holy cow - winner goes to
> > Charlottesville baby. You have 10,000 fans on
> a
> > Saturday afternoon watching NOVA football. And
> of
> > course you have the Centreville Wfield rivalry
> > (think Mich OSU, Cowboys Redskins, etc.).
> Place
> > will be hopping and I will be yelling with all
> the
> > rest. So what will happen? Surprise surprise
> I
> > did a little film study and some computing and
> > here it is. 28-14 CVille wins.
> >
> > How did I get there? Well first my fellow
> serious
> > posters will remember a few weeks back I
> suggested
> > a CVille 35-21 win over Lake Braddock if that
> > matchup were to happen. Well I modify to 28-14
> > here because Westfield's defense is better than
> > LB's but WF's offense still has some to prove.
> > How do I see the game going? Of course
> everyone
> > will be amped up to start and I actually see
> each
> > team scoring a touchdown early on. The
> question
> > will come around the 2nd quarter. I sense that
> > Centreville although maybe shut down on a
> > possession or two is going to score fairly
> > consistently. Question will be whether
> Westfield
> > with Evan Gray, Devon Burns, and the coach says
> he
> > will possible even play sophomore Donteiro Moore
> a
> > bit at RB consistently cash in on multiple
> drives.
> > I think it is possible but not probable.
> > Remember why Centreville had relative trouble
> with
> > SOCO and some with Stonewall. Fast, athletic
> QBs.
> > I think Westfield unless they really pull some
> > rabbits out with tons of Devon Burns with
> wildcat
> > offense etc will be too predictable. That
> plays
> > in the hands of Cville's Defense. Also
> remember
> > that Tyler Love is now back after injury which
> is
> > really big. He anchors the middle of the field
> > with sure tackling which will allow Chad
> Wiggins
> > and others to roam.
> >
> > Additionally there is a lot of talk of
> redemption
> > for Westfield losing the last two years in the
> NR
> > finals and also revenge for the 2011 game
> against
> > Centreville. That might play a factor in a
> lesser
> > game but do you think that CVille is going to
> be
> > anything less than totally amped up in its own
> > house with a state bid on the line to perhaps
> go
> > and upset Oscar Smith (its own burr in the
> > saddle)? Plus there is still enough of the
> > Westfield winning all the time in years past
> > against CVille to push them even further. I
> was
> > more worried about the SOCO and Stonewall games
> > because of the lack of familiarity. This game
> is
> > like two brothers wrestling in the basement. I
> > will be very surprised if either team is even
> > close to being flat. So this will come down to
> > athletes. Westfield has impressed me with the
> > aforementioned offensive players and Sevener,
> > Gibson, etc. on defense. But just not the same
> as
> > CVille. Edge on athletes for Centreville, I
> think
> > a wash on coaching, and of course a little
> > homerism, that all gets me to a CVille win.
> >
> > Peace out friends. Keep it classy Fairfax
> > Underground!
> > hsfballfan
>
>
> Welcome back HSFBALLFAN! It indeed has been too
> long. Your analysis looks about right to me. The
> only thing that I disagree with is your final
> score.
>
> The last time these two teams met, both offenses
> were only able to run due to the monsoon. Given
> the forecast for Saturday, I expect both teams to
> do more passing. Because I give the passing edge
> to Cville (by a wide margin), I expect this game
> to not be as close as you think. My guess is 49-14
> as a final score.
-------
Def welcome back!!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan come back!
()
Date: December 05, 2013 07:02PM
hsfballfan come back! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan, this thread has turned to shit.
> PLEASE COME BACK. You can deal with the imposters
> and haters for 2 more weeks!
With the biggest game ever in the Cville/Westfield rivalry, I knew you couldn't keep away.
Welcome back!
-------------------------------------------------------
> hsfballfan, this thread has turned to shit.
> PLEASE COME BACK. You can deal with the imposters
> and haters for 2 more weeks!
With the biggest game ever in the Cville/Westfield rivalry, I knew you couldn't keep away.
Welcome back!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 05, 2013 09:53PM
Wow, thanks folks for the nice welcome back, much appreciated. Sorry now that I was out the last few weeks. I am sure we will all be talking after the game Saturday one way or another. Go Wildcats!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 05, 2013 11:04PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIFP8gn5mSg&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXE4uz2-rzyIHCpdJpkAyyw
Stonewall @ Centreville Recap: 0:07:00
Westfield @ Lake Braddock Recap: 0:16:00
Westfield @ Centreville Preview/Picks: 1:10:30
Stonewall @ Centreville Recap: 0:07:00
Westfield @ Lake Braddock Recap: 0:16:00
Westfield @ Centreville Preview/Picks: 1:10:30
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
lake b
()
Date: December 05, 2013 11:43PM
hsfballfan missed u like hemroids just kidding like a stick in the eye.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 06, 2013 08:18AM
hsfballfan here (been too long) Wrote:
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> Hi all, hsfballfan here.
> Well I modify to 28-14
Welcome back! Well I had predicted 24-14 so we're not far apart. I do think it could go from close to a rout in the 4th like the other CV playoff games.
Hope everyone gets there early. CV doesn't manage tickets very well and the ticket line was ridiculous last week, will be worse this week. Gates open at noon.
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> Hi all, hsfballfan here.
> Well I modify to 28-14
Welcome back! Well I had predicted 24-14 so we're not far apart. I do think it could go from close to a rout in the 4th like the other CV playoff games.
Hope everyone gets there early. CV doesn't manage tickets very well and the ticket line was ridiculous last week, will be worse this week. Gates open at noon.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:14AM
VTboy Wrote:
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> hsfballfan here (been too long) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi all, hsfballfan here.
> > Well I modify to 28-14
>
> Welcome back! Well I had predicted 24-14 so we're
> not far apart. I do think it could go from close
> to a rout in the 4th like the other CV playoff
> games.
>
> Hope everyone gets there early. CV doesn't manage
> tickets very well and the ticket line was
> ridiculous last week, will be worse this week.
> Gates open at noon.
The line was horrible last week and if you were at the end, you missed much of the 1st Q. For what it's worth, they are pre-selling tickets in the cafeteria at Cville from 11:15-1:00 today (and yesterday) and I heard Westfield is doing the same thing. For this game, there will be an extra "exact change" line at the gate as well. Parking is going to be a big problem too, so early is a good idea.
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> hsfballfan here (been too long) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi all, hsfballfan here.
> > Well I modify to 28-14
>
> Welcome back! Well I had predicted 24-14 so we're
> not far apart. I do think it could go from close
> to a rout in the 4th like the other CV playoff
> games.
>
> Hope everyone gets there early. CV doesn't manage
> tickets very well and the ticket line was
> ridiculous last week, will be worse this week.
> Gates open at noon.
The line was horrible last week and if you were at the end, you missed much of the 1st Q. For what it's worth, they are pre-selling tickets in the cafeteria at Cville from 11:15-1:00 today (and yesterday) and I heard Westfield is doing the same thing. For this game, there will be an extra "exact change" line at the gate as well. Parking is going to be a big problem too, so early is a good idea.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat Killer
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:25AM
Hey Centreville fans, get ready for a beat down on Saturday!!!!! The Westfield Bulldogs will win 56-12, NO DOUBT! Centreville is overrated on the defense (Chad Wiggins) and the Offense side of the ball.
WF 56 CVille 12
Westfield RB (Gray or T-W) 25-234 6 TD's
Westfield QB 6-7 100 2 TD
Centreville offense chokes; 150 yd's total offense
Cville is going HOME!
#Believethat
WF 56 CVille 12
Westfield RB (Gray or T-W) 25-234 6 TD's
Westfield QB 6-7 100 2 TD
Centreville offense chokes; 150 yd's total offense
Cville is going HOME!
#Believethat
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:28AM
Well I appreciate your enthusiasm...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Wildcat Killer
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:37AM
I "appreciate" your sarcasm, but maybe I will "appreciate" the whooping Westfield will give to Centreville on Saturday. THATS THE FACTS
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:39AM
Please make a note for Saturday:
If you are going to watch the North Stafford/Briar Woods game it has been moved to John Champe High School due to the conditions of the field. Don't show up at the wrong high school, you will just feel awful.
Secondly, the Centreville/Westfield game is at 1:30 p.m. as had been agreed upon and reported all week. Just to shut the rumors down.
Also, the Altavista/Haysi game has been moved next door to the stadium belonging to the elementary school due to conditions with the field. In case you feel like a long fall drive...
If you are going to watch the North Stafford/Briar Woods game it has been moved to John Champe High School due to the conditions of the field. Don't show up at the wrong high school, you will just feel awful.
Secondly, the Centreville/Westfield game is at 1:30 p.m. as had been agreed upon and reported all week. Just to shut the rumors down.
Also, the Altavista/Haysi game has been moved next door to the stadium belonging to the elementary school due to conditions with the field. In case you feel like a long fall drive...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville 4 Dayz
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:48AM
Wildcat Killer Wrote:
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> Hey Centreville fans, get ready for a beat down on
> Saturday!!!!! The Westfield Bulldogs will win
> 56-12, NO DOUBT! Centreville is overrated on the
> defense (Chad Wiggins) and the Offense side of the
> ball.
>
> WF 56 CVille 12
> Westfield RB (Gray or T-W) 25-234 6 TD's
> Westfield QB 6-7 100 2 TD
>
> Centreville offense chokes; 150 yd's total
> offense
>
> Cville is going HOME!
>
> #Believethat
Excuse me sir, but you are a fucking idiot. Such an idiot that it make me want to beat you so badly taht your face will resemble that of a derrange monkey. But sadly your face already looks that way. So I will have to do with watching Chad Wiggins and the rest of his boyz take down your filthy, rotten bulldogs. OR should I say "bull-shits".
CVille 1,000
WF -12
MARK
MY
WORDS
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> Hey Centreville fans, get ready for a beat down on
> Saturday!!!!! The Westfield Bulldogs will win
> 56-12, NO DOUBT! Centreville is overrated on the
> defense (Chad Wiggins) and the Offense side of the
> ball.
>
> WF 56 CVille 12
> Westfield RB (Gray or T-W) 25-234 6 TD's
> Westfield QB 6-7 100 2 TD
>
> Centreville offense chokes; 150 yd's total
> offense
>
> Cville is going HOME!
>
> #Believethat
Excuse me sir, but you are a fucking idiot. Such an idiot that it make me want to beat you so badly taht your face will resemble that of a derrange monkey. But sadly your face already looks that way. So I will have to do with watching Chad Wiggins and the rest of his boyz take down your filthy, rotten bulldogs. OR should I say "bull-shits".
CVille 1,000
WF -12
MARK
MY
WORDS
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
boyz will be boyz
()
Date: December 06, 2013 10:16AM
Before anyone goes off the deep end let us see what happens tomorrow in the game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BullDoge
()
Date: December 06, 2013 10:17AM
HOW DARE YOU
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
boyz will be boyz
()
Date: December 06, 2013 10:24AM
hey hey hey.... cool your jets mannnnn
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
BullDoge
()
Date: December 06, 2013 10:25AM
I will FUCK YOU UP
DON'T MESS WITH ME BITCH I'M A BLACK BELT
DON'T MESS WITH ME BITCH I'M A BLACK BELT
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville 4 Dayz
()
Date: December 06, 2013 02:02PM
Hey "BullDoge" bitch,
I want your possibly black-belted ass to see me at Centreville, center of the football field, 12:00 midnight, rain or shine, tonight (Friday, 12/6/2013) and I will beat your ass. THen we will watch as the Centreville Wildcats DEMOLISH the Westfield "Bull-shits".
Hope to see you on the field tonight, get ready to be fucked up.
Sincerly,
A concerned High school football fan
I want your possibly black-belted ass to see me at Centreville, center of the football field, 12:00 midnight, rain or shine, tonight (Friday, 12/6/2013) and I will beat your ass. THen we will watch as the Centreville Wildcats DEMOLISH the Westfield "Bull-shits".
Hope to see you on the field tonight, get ready to be fucked up.
Sincerly,
A concerned High school football fan
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Westfield wins
()
Date: December 06, 2013 03:43PM
Westfield 237 Centreville 236 yeah man
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville jingle all the way
()
Date: December 06, 2013 04:04PM
Bunch of dumbshit Westfield fans on this site the last day or two. What hole did you all come out of? Well don't worry you can crawl back in late Saturday afternoon at about 4:30.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 06, 2013 04:15PM
Well, so much for the intelligent thread that's been going on the past few weeks. Just when hsfballfan had come out of the woodwork to join us I'm sure he's probably retreated for good with the goings on of this afternoon on here!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: December 06, 2013 04:26PM
Trying to get back on track... how 'bout the weather's impact?
While it looks like no precipitation, I imagine the field will be soaked. I've never played on turf so I don't really know what that does for traction.
While it looks like no precipitation, I imagine the field will be soaked. I've never played on turf so I don't really know what that does for traction.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: December 06, 2013 05:54PM
CatDad Wrote:
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> Trying to get back on track... how 'bout the
> weather's impact?
> While it looks like no precipitation, I imagine
> the field will be soaked. I've never played on
> turf so I don't really know what that does for
> traction.
Turf drains pretty well, and the rain is supposed to stop by early morning. By game time the field might be a little slick with temps in the 40s. Not bad football weather. Should not impact either team in a huge way. Westfield will probably mostly run the ball anyway. If Centreville can shore up their run defense they should probably take this game 35-21.
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> Trying to get back on track... how 'bout the
> weather's impact?
> While it looks like no precipitation, I imagine
> the field will be soaked. I've never played on
> turf so I don't really know what that does for
> traction.
Turf drains pretty well, and the rain is supposed to stop by early morning. By game time the field might be a little slick with temps in the 40s. Not bad football weather. Should not impact either team in a huge way. Westfield will probably mostly run the ball anyway. If Centreville can shore up their run defense they should probably take this game 35-21.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 06, 2013 06:59PM
I don't think Westfields D will give up more than 28, just my opinion. That's the most they gave up all year. They did a very good job shutting Lake Braddock's high powered offense down last week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Braddock fan
()
Date: December 06, 2013 08:37PM
When and where does Lake Braddock play this weekend?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
yo dufus
()
Date: December 06, 2013 08:58PM
Lake Braddock is playing video games at Dave and Busters this weekend, go say hello to them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
West Coast
()
Date: December 06, 2013 09:57PM
casualobserver Wrote:
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> My daughters go to robinson and I have watched
> most of the games on friday nights. It seems like
> alot of the offenses in this region are very
> conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton,
> herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to
> run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end
> option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on
> running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason
> why? We moved from south carolina last year, and
> many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and 4
> wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone read
> offense.
>
> Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block,
> but was just wondering why coaches seem to favor
> the conservative approach up here.
Because the coaches are God awful here. The Northern Virginia teams are absolutely terrible mostly because of the vanilla offenses they run. I would list Virgina in the bottom 10% in the country however, Virginia Beach is much better
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> My daughters go to robinson and I have watched
> most of the games on friday nights. It seems like
> alot of the offenses in this region are very
> conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton,
> herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to
> run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end
> option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on
> running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason
> why? We moved from south carolina last year, and
> many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and 4
> wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone read
> offense.
>
> Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block,
> but was just wondering why coaches seem to favor
> the conservative approach up here.
Because the coaches are God awful here. The Northern Virginia teams are absolutely terrible mostly because of the vanilla offenses they run. I would list Virgina in the bottom 10% in the country however, Virginia Beach is much better
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 06, 2013 10:35PM
West Coast Wrote:
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> casualobserver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My daughters go to robinson and I have watched
> > most of the games on friday nights. It seems
> like
> > alot of the offenses in this region are very
> > conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton,
> > herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to
> > run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end
> > option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on
> > running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason
> > why? We moved from south carolina last year,
> and
> > many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and
> 4
> > wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone
> read
> > offense.
> >
> > Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block,
> > but was just wondering why coaches seem to
> favor
> > the conservative approach up here.
>
> Because the coaches are God awful here. The
> Northern Virginia teams are absolutely terrible
> mostly because of the vanilla offenses they run.
> I would list Virgina in the bottom 10% in the
> country however, Virginia Beach is much better
------------
SC football is all about O, for sure. Last year, Byrnes came to Chesapeake and ran away from O. Smith, 42-21. The thing that surprised me was how wide Byrnes' spread was and how often it ran from that set. Good O line and receivers that beat Smith to spots. Also saw the AAA title game--open Os that dictated. Even though it's mostly a power game here, Westield's Glennon is throwing in the NFL, Renner had a few good seasons as UNC's QB before injuries this year, and Stone Bridge's Burns is a freshman at Stanford. These Os can give small quick teams a better chance to beat bigger teams as WaPo pointed out today in the article re what Baylor's coach did in Texas high school FB.
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> casualobserver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My daughters go to robinson and I have watched
> > most of the games on friday nights. It seems
> like
> > alot of the offenses in this region are very
> > conservative. Centreville, chantilly, oakton,
> > herndon, robinson, and south county all seem to
> > run under-center, wing t or multiple tight end
> > option sets. There seems to be an emphasis on
> > running the ball in Virginia, is there a reason
> > why? We moved from south carolina last year,
> and
> > many of the teams down there have gone to 3 and
> 4
> > wide receiver sets and run the shotgun-zone
> read
> > offense.
> >
> > Sorry if I sound like the new guy on the block,
> > but was just wondering why coaches seem to
> favor
> > the conservative approach up here.
>
> Because the coaches are God awful here. The
> Northern Virginia teams are absolutely terrible
> mostly because of the vanilla offenses they run.
> I would list Virgina in the bottom 10% in the
> country however, Virginia Beach is much better
------------
SC football is all about O, for sure. Last year, Byrnes came to Chesapeake and ran away from O. Smith, 42-21. The thing that surprised me was how wide Byrnes' spread was and how often it ran from that set. Good O line and receivers that beat Smith to spots. Also saw the AAA title game--open Os that dictated. Even though it's mostly a power game here, Westield's Glennon is throwing in the NFL, Renner had a few good seasons as UNC's QB before injuries this year, and Stone Bridge's Burns is a freshman at Stanford. These Os can give small quick teams a better chance to beat bigger teams as WaPo pointed out today in the article re what Baylor's coach did in Texas high school FB.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Oakton fan
()
Date: December 06, 2013 11:01PM
Oakton runs a multiple set option offense with a ton of read option plays. They did not have a great season this year, but still ran the same things that have made them very successful the past few years. They started running that stuff in 2008 with Chris Coyer at QB. Last year Kyle Downer did it and they shocked everyone by winning the region for the 4th time (more than any other school in The northern region since 2002).
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nova football fan
()
Date: December 06, 2013 11:08PM
ESPNU has virginia ranked number 8 in high school football. Northern Va schools have produced more number 1 recruits in the country than the beach. Overall, it is pretty close for total college football players from each area. If you check out the numbers you will see how far off your opinions about VA football and their coaches really are.
For the first tine ever USA football and their heads up programs partnered with one school district in the country this year...FCPS. Why not Texas, or The 757?
For the first tine ever USA football and their heads up programs partnered with one school district in the country this year...FCPS. Why not Texas, or The 757?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 07, 2013 12:20AM
Nova football fan Wrote:
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> ESPNU has virginia ranked number 8 in high school
> football. Northern Va schools have produced more
> number 1 recruits in the country than the beach.
> Overall, it is pretty close for total college
> football players from each area. If you check out
> the numbers you will see how far off your opinions
> about VA football and their coaches really are.
>
> For the first tine ever USA football and their
> heads up programs partnered with one school
> district in the country this year...FCPS. Why not
> Texas, or The 757?
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Per capita FBS recruiting stats for 2008-2013 rank VA 16th and VA trails 9 states with schools in the SEC. LA, Alabama, FL and GA rank 1 through 4. Not saying this is THE indicator; it's just another factor to consider in assessing variances by state. In terms of gross numbers, CA, TX and FL still lead for what I'm told. www.footballstudyhall.com.
The partnership between USA Football and FCPS is driven by safety and the sheer numbers of youths and HS teams playing in the county. That was pointed out in press releases, etc., when the partnership was announced. There were already 1900 youth programs doing Heads Up and FC was a national leader in that. Neither Texas nor the 757 has the density we have and all 3 areas have D1 cred.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/07/2013 12:46AM by EasternVaFan.
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> ESPNU has virginia ranked number 8 in high school
> football. Northern Va schools have produced more
> number 1 recruits in the country than the beach.
> Overall, it is pretty close for total college
> football players from each area. If you check out
> the numbers you will see how far off your opinions
> about VA football and their coaches really are.
>
> For the first tine ever USA football and their
> heads up programs partnered with one school
> district in the country this year...FCPS. Why not
> Texas, or The 757?
-------
Per capita FBS recruiting stats for 2008-2013 rank VA 16th and VA trails 9 states with schools in the SEC. LA, Alabama, FL and GA rank 1 through 4. Not saying this is THE indicator; it's just another factor to consider in assessing variances by state. In terms of gross numbers, CA, TX and FL still lead for what I'm told. www.footballstudyhall.com.
The partnership between USA Football and FCPS is driven by safety and the sheer numbers of youths and HS teams playing in the county. That was pointed out in press releases, etc., when the partnership was announced. There were already 1900 youth programs doing Heads Up and FC was a national leader in that. Neither Texas nor the 757 has the density we have and all 3 areas have D1 cred.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/07/2013 12:46AM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
r u ready for some
()
Date: December 07, 2013 08:56AM
R u ready for some football - oh yeah. Go Centreville beat Westfield.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysterio maco
()
Date: December 07, 2013 09:05AM
I AM READY!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Blahjkf
()
Date: December 07, 2013 11:35AM
Will the game be televised?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ForFee
()
Date: December 07, 2013 01:51PM
Blahjkf Wrote:
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> Will the game be televised?
http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com. $14.99 for 3 day pass to watch VHSL football live online. To my knowledge that is the only way to watch it. I can't even find a radio broadcast to listen to. Sad thing is, I live 0.8mi from Centreville but didn't go. I'm not a fan of standing outside in low 40s temps.
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> Will the game be televised?
http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com. $14.99 for 3 day pass to watch VHSL football live online. To my knowledge that is the only way to watch it. I can't even find a radio broadcast to listen to. Sad thing is, I live 0.8mi from Centreville but didn't go. I'm not a fan of standing outside in low 40s temps.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Kat15
()
Date: December 07, 2013 04:00PM
Final. Cville 35-14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 07, 2013 04:11PM
FINAL: Oscar Smith 17 Colonial Forge 0
FINAL: Briar Woods 27 North Stafford 25
FINAL: Briar Woods 27 North Stafford 25
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 07, 2013 04:50PM
FINAL: L.C. Bird 7 Salem (VB) 3
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 07, 2013 04:55PM
Here are your state championship matchups to be played at UVA's stadium in Charlottesville:
6A: OSCAR SMITH / CENTREVILLE
5A: L.C. BIRD / BRIAR WOODS
6A: OSCAR SMITH / CENTREVILLE
5A: L.C. BIRD / BRIAR WOODS
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 07, 2013 04:58PM
Congrats to Centreville. They played a nearly flawless game and powered their way past and over Westfield with a convincing win.
Surprised Westfield stuck with their usual plain vanilla offense almost every play of the entire game. WF went 3-out their first 4 possessions iirc. WF defense on the field seemed like nearly the entire game. TOP must have been like 32-16.
Walter vs. Scoville was in my mind the biggest difference between these two teams. WF QB not only can't throw - can't run either... averaged 1.8 ypc for the season.
Centreville's defense will have their work cut out for them - but if CF can hold OS to 17, well, I think Centreville can also.
Good Luck next week.
Surprised Westfield stuck with their usual plain vanilla offense almost every play of the entire game. WF went 3-out their first 4 possessions iirc. WF defense on the field seemed like nearly the entire game. TOP must have been like 32-16.
Walter vs. Scoville was in my mind the biggest difference between these two teams. WF QB not only can't throw - can't run either... averaged 1.8 ypc for the season.
Centreville's defense will have their work cut out for them - but if CF can hold OS to 17, well, I think Centreville can also.
Good Luck next week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 07, 2013 05:13PM
Quite an amazing end to the 5A North game... North Stafford hits a 42-yard hail mary to cut lead to 27-25 with no time remaining. Tying 2 point attempt no good. Briar Woods wins!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
bushels
()
Date: December 07, 2013 05:15PM
Just pitiful.....too bad Braddock choked last week; would have loved to see them and Centreville play. This wasn't much of a game at all.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Westfield wayward
()
Date: December 07, 2013 06:42PM
Ok I give, Centreville is a better team this year (but this year only). What peeves me though is the conservo way Westfield coaches running the game today. Of course Thrasher Walker out, of course the QB is not the greatest this year but there is no way we were going to beat Centreville without some spicing it up with trick plays or more Devon or something. Running up the middle right into Centreville linebackers everytime is not going to get it done.
Loosen it up boys next year.
Loosen it up boys next year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 07, 2013 07:05PM
I saw Smith in its opener and C'Ville today. Both teams have good lines and playmakers. C'Ville will win if its OL executes and its LBs make quick reads. Smith loves to test LBs--shows run then throws behind you or throws under and makes you chase. CF showed that you stop Smith with speed-to-ball and pressure; game today was 10-0 until the TD in the 4th. On D, Smith's focus is the LOS. It also better cheat up on #23; otherwise, he will make you miss. This is not 2011 and an easy win by either team would surprise me.
Congrats to Westfield for a good year that included beating a 12-0 team and hanging around today against a very tough state finalist.
Congrats to Westfield for a good year that included beating a 12-0 team and hanging around today against a very tough state finalist.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 07, 2013 07:06PM
Well hsfballfan here, as you can imagine happy as a cat. In fact here is a shout out to the boys from CVille, they did it 14-0 and on to states. Cue the speakers....
Back in black, I hit the sack
It's been too long I'm glad to be back
Yes I'm, let loose
From the noose
That's kept me hanging around
I keep looking at the sky
'Cause it's gettin' me high
Forget the hearse 'cause I'll never die
I got nine lives
Cats eyes
Usin' every one of them and running wild
'Cause I'm back
Yes, I'm back
Well, I'm back
Yes, I'm back
Well, I'm back, back
(Well) I'm back in black
Yes, I'm back in black
AC/DC - Back In Black Lyrics
Now on to more serious analysis. Indeed the game went as most people expected. In fact I remember saying 28-14. Always better to be a bit conservative so am fine with the 35-14 final. Random thoughts:
* Defense came back ready to play today. Only two plays concerned me for Wfield offense the entire game....great throw and catch to Burns down at the 1 and then the run around the left end for a TD that was in reality a missed assignment by Centreville defense.
* I respect Westfield. Of course big rivals and great to beat them but good job yelling "USA USA" Westfield fans when the old timer veteran came golf carting around the track. Also good job playing a disciplined, tough ball game.
* I think Centreville is a superior team but I would not say vastly superior. Agree with previous poster newgatedenizen that big difference in QB play between the two teams. Plus aggressive defense just kept Westfield from sustaining much all day long. Also have to shout out to Taylor Boose. I know that Turner and Tutt get a lot of press (and deservedly so) but that kid Boose is da bomb. Great strength and agility.
* Centreville fans and especially the students. Good job coming out of hibernation with the blue out and the balloons. You are on your way to being a real great cheer section but please turn out next week too.
* I know there has been a bunch of pooh poohing about Fairfax County and the turf fields. But that is a bunch of bullshit. Can you imagine this and other games being played on a muddy December field instead of on the turf? I did not see one player slip or anything even given the terrible weather yesterday.
* Overall a good crowd turnout but a bit surprised to see about a third to half of the visitors side open. Thought Westfield traveled a bit better than that especially being so close and given the rivalry? But I also wonder if the third party (other teams and coaches) attendance was down given the loss by Braddock (i.e., people expected Centreville to win without Braddock involved so why show up....)
* Another point there, I think Centreville should be really commended because the hardest way to win is having the pressure that everyone expects it. People have been expecting this result since the beginning and lo and behold they delivered it. Congratulations.
* Next week against Smith. I think the pressure is off now. People expect Smith to win so if I am Haddock I just tell them to roll the dice and see what happens.
* Hope Tutt is not too hurt, noticed he did not play the last half.
In sum, congrats Wildcats, savor the victory, and let us see if we can bring home more next weekend!
Peace out.
Stay classy Fairfax Underground.
Signed, hsfballfan
Back in black, I hit the sack
It's been too long I'm glad to be back
Yes I'm, let loose
From the noose
That's kept me hanging around
I keep looking at the sky
'Cause it's gettin' me high
Forget the hearse 'cause I'll never die
I got nine lives
Cats eyes
Usin' every one of them and running wild
'Cause I'm back
Yes, I'm back
Well, I'm back
Yes, I'm back
Well, I'm back, back
(Well) I'm back in black
Yes, I'm back in black
AC/DC - Back In Black Lyrics
Now on to more serious analysis. Indeed the game went as most people expected. In fact I remember saying 28-14. Always better to be a bit conservative so am fine with the 35-14 final. Random thoughts:
* Defense came back ready to play today. Only two plays concerned me for Wfield offense the entire game....great throw and catch to Burns down at the 1 and then the run around the left end for a TD that was in reality a missed assignment by Centreville defense.
* I respect Westfield. Of course big rivals and great to beat them but good job yelling "USA USA" Westfield fans when the old timer veteran came golf carting around the track. Also good job playing a disciplined, tough ball game.
* I think Centreville is a superior team but I would not say vastly superior. Agree with previous poster newgatedenizen that big difference in QB play between the two teams. Plus aggressive defense just kept Westfield from sustaining much all day long. Also have to shout out to Taylor Boose. I know that Turner and Tutt get a lot of press (and deservedly so) but that kid Boose is da bomb. Great strength and agility.
* Centreville fans and especially the students. Good job coming out of hibernation with the blue out and the balloons. You are on your way to being a real great cheer section but please turn out next week too.
* I know there has been a bunch of pooh poohing about Fairfax County and the turf fields. But that is a bunch of bullshit. Can you imagine this and other games being played on a muddy December field instead of on the turf? I did not see one player slip or anything even given the terrible weather yesterday.
* Overall a good crowd turnout but a bit surprised to see about a third to half of the visitors side open. Thought Westfield traveled a bit better than that especially being so close and given the rivalry? But I also wonder if the third party (other teams and coaches) attendance was down given the loss by Braddock (i.e., people expected Centreville to win without Braddock involved so why show up....)
* Another point there, I think Centreville should be really commended because the hardest way to win is having the pressure that everyone expects it. People have been expecting this result since the beginning and lo and behold they delivered it. Congratulations.
* Next week against Smith. I think the pressure is off now. People expect Smith to win so if I am Haddock I just tell them to roll the dice and see what happens.
* Hope Tutt is not too hurt, noticed he did not play the last half.
In sum, congrats Wildcats, savor the victory, and let us see if we can bring home more next weekend!
Peace out.
Stay classy Fairfax Underground.
Signed, hsfballfan
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 07, 2013 07:26PM
Great job Centreville, never in doubt.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cat Lover
()
Date: December 07, 2013 07:38PM
Oh yeah, nice quiet Westfield crowd all day long because they knew the inevitable was going to happen. Go CATS!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
WestWestWestField
()
Date: December 07, 2013 08:43PM
Just wait until next year for Westfield to take back the momentum against Centreville. Regular season game should be at Westfield since it was at Centreville this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 07, 2013 09:16PM
WestWestWestField Wrote:
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> Just wait until next year for Westfield to take
> back the momentum against Centreville. Regular
> season game should be at Westfield since it was at
> Centreville this year.
But will they be able to beat Centreville with largely their whole team back? I don't think so. Either way, this rivalry is the best in NoVa.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Just wait until next year for Westfield to take
> back the momentum against Centreville. Regular
> season game should be at Westfield since it was at
> Centreville this year.
But will they be able to beat Centreville with largely their whole team back? I don't think so. Either way, this rivalry is the best in NoVa.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 07, 2013 09:42PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Well hsfballfan here, as you can imagine happy as
> a cat. In fact here is a shout out to the boys
> from CVille, they did it 14-0 and on to states.
> Cue the speakers....
Yes a big sigh of relief from this CV fan. Great job by Haddock et al to have them prepared.
What a LAME turnout by the Westfield supporters. Everyone on the CV side was surprised. They are a bigger school and if anything should have had the same size crowd we did if not more. Schools are only 10 minutes apart. Feel sorry for the food vendors clearly they were expecting more people.
Anyone know Tutt's status? He is the one player they can least afford to lose other than Scotty. Thinking he will match up against Jaylen Bradshaw (VT commit).
Who is pooh-poohing the turf fields? Heck the Briar Woods game today was moved TO a school that HAD turf. I think it's great that the schools in FX have pretty much done it on their own. Look at PG County the schools there want the state to pay for them.
Anyway, great job by the CV players, yes a couple big plays by WF but really the game was never in doubt.
CV CAN beat Oscar Smith. Heavy underdogs, but this CV team has more speed and balance than the 2011 CV squad. Just need Tutt to be there. CV doesn't get much pass rush, so Mitchell will have time to throw to Bradshaw, just hope Tutt shuts him down.
Long range forecast for next Saturday in Charlottesville: high of 38 with some snow...
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> Well hsfballfan here, as you can imagine happy as
> a cat. In fact here is a shout out to the boys
> from CVille, they did it 14-0 and on to states.
> Cue the speakers....
Yes a big sigh of relief from this CV fan. Great job by Haddock et al to have them prepared.
What a LAME turnout by the Westfield supporters. Everyone on the CV side was surprised. They are a bigger school and if anything should have had the same size crowd we did if not more. Schools are only 10 minutes apart. Feel sorry for the food vendors clearly they were expecting more people.
Anyone know Tutt's status? He is the one player they can least afford to lose other than Scotty. Thinking he will match up against Jaylen Bradshaw (VT commit).
Who is pooh-poohing the turf fields? Heck the Briar Woods game today was moved TO a school that HAD turf. I think it's great that the schools in FX have pretty much done it on their own. Look at PG County the schools there want the state to pay for them.
Anyway, great job by the CV players, yes a couple big plays by WF but really the game was never in doubt.
CV CAN beat Oscar Smith. Heavy underdogs, but this CV team has more speed and balance than the 2011 CV squad. Just need Tutt to be there. CV doesn't get much pass rush, so Mitchell will have time to throw to Bradshaw, just hope Tutt shuts him down.
Long range forecast for next Saturday in Charlottesville: high of 38 with some snow...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 07, 2013 09:57PM
Calling CVille Student. You were so helpful some weeks ago with the insights on Cville's injury reports. Hoping you read this and can give us some help on Charles Tutt's injury and his status for next week.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cville Student
()
Date: December 07, 2013 10:11PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Calling CVille Student. You were so helpful some
> weeks ago with the insights on Cville's injury
> reports. Hoping you read this and can give us
> some help on Charles Tutt's injury and his status
> for next week.
>
> Thanks in advance.
Hi I've been away because I didn't want to give too much info to our competition. But to answer your question, C Tutt is fine and will be playing in the Final. Lot's of players experienced some bumps and bruises in today's game but nothing too serious.
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> Calling CVille Student. You were so helpful some
> weeks ago with the insights on Cville's injury
> reports. Hoping you read this and can give us
> some help on Charles Tutt's injury and his status
> for next week.
>
> Thanks in advance.
Hi I've been away because I didn't want to give too much info to our competition. But to answer your question, C Tutt is fine and will be playing in the Final. Lot's of players experienced some bumps and bruises in today's game but nothing too serious.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 07, 2013 10:14PM
Understood and thanks CVille Student....you are a gem! Great news on Tutt. Let's go get them Tigers from Oscar Smith!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 07, 2013 10:27PM
VTboy Wrote:
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> What a LAME turnout by the Westfield supporters.
> Everyone on the CV side was surprised. They are a
> bigger school and if anything should have had the
> same size crowd we did if not more.
WF had a "mandatory-to-attend" band concert in late afternoon. And while a nice crowd I'd say C'ville filled 2/3 to 3/4 of their side.
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> What a LAME turnout by the Westfield supporters.
> Everyone on the CV side was surprised. They are a
> bigger school and if anything should have had the
> same size crowd we did if not more.
WF had a "mandatory-to-attend" band concert in late afternoon. And while a nice crowd I'd say C'ville filled 2/3 to 3/4 of their side.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 07, 2013 10:34PM
Clarify that for me... The biggest game for Westfield and a band/pep band isn't travelling to support the football team? Crazy.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
football junkie
()
Date: December 07, 2013 10:55PM
Next we offer a lovely piece by Tchaikovsky....halftime score of the game CVille 14 Westfield 7.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 07, 2013 11:17PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> Clarify that for me... The biggest game for
> Westfield and a band/pep band isn't travelling to
> support the football team? Crazy.
They had a pep band. Westfield has a huge band program - 3 of their 5 bands had a concert today. Not saying that was the only reason for light attendance. I suspect weather (cold and windy) another small factor. And perhaps only having a small chance of actually winning the game... who knows...
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> Clarify that for me... The biggest game for
> Westfield and a band/pep band isn't travelling to
> support the football team? Crazy.
They had a pep band. Westfield has a huge band program - 3 of their 5 bands had a concert today. Not saying that was the only reason for light attendance. I suspect weather (cold and windy) another small factor. And perhaps only having a small chance of actually winning the game... who knows...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: December 08, 2013 12:10AM
Congratulations Westfield for a solid season, no shame here. Plenty of lessons learned in prep for next season - should do better next time.
And congratulations to Centreville, will be cheering for you well-trained animals in the state final! Go Wildcats WOOF!
And congratulations to Centreville, will be cheering for you well-trained animals in the state final! Go Wildcats WOOF!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Band sucker
()
Date: December 08, 2013 04:17AM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> nat4lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clarify that for me... The biggest game for
> > Westfield and a band/pep band isn't travelling
> to
> > support the football team? Crazy.
>
> They had a pep band. Westfield has a huge band
> program - 3 of their 5 bands had a concert today.
> Not saying that was the only reason for light
> attendance. I suspect weather (cold and windy)
> another small factor. And perhaps only having a
> small chance of actually winning the game... who
> knows...
Westfield has a huge band program, Holy Shit and that's what you are blaming the lackluster turnout on? How about I have band program today and Centreville is going to kick our ass and I don't want to be a part of it. Could that really be how it went? I think so!
-------------------------------------------------------
> nat4lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clarify that for me... The biggest game for
> > Westfield and a band/pep band isn't travelling
> to
> > support the football team? Crazy.
>
> They had a pep band. Westfield has a huge band
> program - 3 of their 5 bands had a concert today.
> Not saying that was the only reason for light
> attendance. I suspect weather (cold and windy)
> another small factor. And perhaps only having a
> small chance of actually winning the game... who
> knows...
Westfield has a huge band program, Holy Shit and that's what you are blaming the lackluster turnout on? How about I have band program today and Centreville is going to kick our ass and I don't want to be a part of it. Could that really be how it went? I think so!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: December 08, 2013 07:59AM
There is a question that begs to be asked regarding the Westfield/Centreville game. That is, why did Westfield stick with their conservative game plan when CVille was crowding the line of scrimmage, their passing game was not working at all and their defense was getting worn down because of CVille's ball control during the first half. Specifically, why didn't they try an on side kick after Evans broke the 60 plus run in the third quarter. Because they did not kick to the deep backs all game there would have been around a 20 yard difference in field position even if it was not successful. Sure, it would be risky and would potentially would have put the game out of reach if they gave up a touchdown, but they were already down 28-14 and lacking enough consistency on offense to overcome a 2 touchdown deficiency.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2013 08:44AM by Inquisitive One.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2013 08:44AM by Inquisitive One.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:07AM
"There is a question that begs to be asked regarding the Westfield/Centreville game. That is, why did Westfield stick with their conservative game plan when CVille was crowding the line of scrimmage, their passing game was not working at all and their defense was getting worn down because of CVille's ball control during the first half. Specifically, why didn't they try an onside kick after Evans broke the 60 plus run in the third quarter. Because they did not kick to the deep backs all game there would have been around a 20 yard difference in field position even if it was not successful. Sure, it would be risky and would potentially would have put the game out of reach if they gave up a touchdown, but they were already down 28-14 and lacking enough consistency on offense to overcome a 2 touchdown deficiency."
Because Westfield's coaches are too stubborn to change anything, period! Their offense was abysmal the first time the 2 schools played, it's been pretty mediocre all season, other than Thrasher-Walker & Gray's running it just hasn't had any punch. Westfield's best bet would have been to run the wildcat ALL game long, Burns as the QB. Run the option heavy out of it, worked pretty well for SOCO and Stonewall. Burns is so electrifying, especially with the ball in his hands in the open field, why not run it?
The offense coordinator did zip, zero, nada, as far as game planning went other than to run the same old plays they've run all season. Are you kidding, Centreville’s coaches and players are too good, that wasn't going to work. Look at Oakton last year, mediocre season, makes the playoffs, coaches move some players around, add a few plays, and they win the region. It's called good coaching.
Anyone who watched Westfield this year new the defense is what kept them in the games they won. However, against a talent laden offense such as Centreville's, the offense needed to step up, they didn't. Centreville's defense outplayed them just as they did the first go round.
Good luck to Centreville next weekend, beat Oscar Smith and bring the 6A championship back to Northern Virginia!!
Because Westfield's coaches are too stubborn to change anything, period! Their offense was abysmal the first time the 2 schools played, it's been pretty mediocre all season, other than Thrasher-Walker & Gray's running it just hasn't had any punch. Westfield's best bet would have been to run the wildcat ALL game long, Burns as the QB. Run the option heavy out of it, worked pretty well for SOCO and Stonewall. Burns is so electrifying, especially with the ball in his hands in the open field, why not run it?
The offense coordinator did zip, zero, nada, as far as game planning went other than to run the same old plays they've run all season. Are you kidding, Centreville’s coaches and players are too good, that wasn't going to work. Look at Oakton last year, mediocre season, makes the playoffs, coaches move some players around, add a few plays, and they win the region. It's called good coaching.
Anyone who watched Westfield this year new the defense is what kept them in the games they won. However, against a talent laden offense such as Centreville's, the offense needed to step up, they didn't. Centreville's defense outplayed them just as they did the first go round.
Good luck to Centreville next weekend, beat Oscar Smith and bring the 6A championship back to Northern Virginia!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:13AM
Sorry, "knew the defense is what kept them in the games they won." is what I meant, still half asleep. I guess the point I was attempting to make is that Westfield would have been much better off trying anything other than their standard, conservative offense.
After last week’s victory over Lake Braddock, even the LB coach Proythess? said if he were coaching Westfield against Centreville "I would run #1 out of the Wildcat all game long or it will be turn in the gear time"! Sounds like a pretty smart man!!
After last week’s victory over Lake Braddock, even the LB coach Proythess? said if he were coaching Westfield against Centreville "I would run #1 out of the Wildcat all game long or it will be turn in the gear time"! Sounds like a pretty smart man!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:24AM
My question would be did Westfield take any note at all of that fun game a couple weeks ago between Centreville and South County? Because they are the only ones who truly gave Centreville any fits...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:38AM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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>
> WF had a "mandatory-to-attend" band concert in
> late afternoon. And while a nice crowd I'd say
> C'ville filled 2/3 to 3/4 of their side.
Sorry I took a look at the CV side from the concession area and it was mostly full. I'll grant that any non-partisan fans probably sat on the CV side. But still if some band members had to go to a concert, that doesn't explain the lack of attendance by non-band members. I know lots of CV kids couldn't make it due to basketball, track, etc but still we had a great turnout.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> WF had a "mandatory-to-attend" band concert in
> late afternoon. And while a nice crowd I'd say
> C'ville filled 2/3 to 3/4 of their side.
Sorry I took a look at the CV side from the concession area and it was mostly full. I'll grant that any non-partisan fans probably sat on the CV side. But still if some band members had to go to a concert, that doesn't explain the lack of attendance by non-band members. I know lots of CV kids couldn't make it due to basketball, track, etc but still we had a great turnout.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:45AM
WestWestWestField Wrote:
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> Just wait until next year for Westfield to take
> back the momentum against Centreville. Regular
> season game should be at Westfield since it was at
> Centreville this year.
Huh? CV has nearly all their playmakers back next year. We will miss Wiggins and Smith, and Heiner. Yes the game is at WF and yes it will be fun to watch CV beat them on their home turf, I believe CV has not won a regular season game there. WF better find a QB next year. The game will probably be a good one, and from the looks of it they again will be the top two teams in the region. But CV will be the favorite.
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> Just wait until next year for Westfield to take
> back the momentum against Centreville. Regular
> season game should be at Westfield since it was at
> Centreville this year.
Huh? CV has nearly all their playmakers back next year. We will miss Wiggins and Smith, and Heiner. Yes the game is at WF and yes it will be fun to watch CV beat them on their home turf, I believe CV has not won a regular season game there. WF better find a QB next year. The game will probably be a good one, and from the looks of it they again will be the top two teams in the region. But CV will be the favorite.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:51AM
Cville Student Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi I've been away because I didn't want to give
> too much info to our competition. But to answer
> your question, C Tutt is fine and will be playing
> in the Final. Lot's of players experienced some
> bumps and bruises in today's game but nothing too
> serious.
Glad to hear that. The Post this morning mentioned a muscle spasm? I give WF credit they play hard, tackle hard, and we probably have some sore players today. Just hope that we are 100% on Saturday.
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi I've been away because I didn't want to give
> too much info to our competition. But to answer
> your question, C Tutt is fine and will be playing
> in the Final. Lot's of players experienced some
> bumps and bruises in today's game but nothing too
> serious.
Glad to hear that. The Post this morning mentioned a muscle spasm? I give WF credit they play hard, tackle hard, and we probably have some sore players today. Just hope that we are 100% on Saturday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 08, 2013 10:47AM
I don't like the lack of inter-regional games in the new playoff format. Only 1 game between NOVA and Richmond/Beach?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldawg2
()
Date: December 08, 2013 11:13AM
Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "There is a question that begs to be asked
> regarding the Westfield/Centreville game. That is,
> why did Westfield stick with their conservative
> game plan when CVille was crowding the line of
> scrimmage, their passing game was not working at
> all and their defense was getting worn down
> because of CVille's ball control during the first
> half. Specifically, why didn't they try an onside
> kick after Evans broke the 60 plus run in the
> third quarter. Because they did not kick to the
> deep backs all game there would have been around a
> 20 yard difference in field position even if it
> was not successful. Sure, it would be risky and
> would potentially would have put the game out of
> reach if they gave up a touchdown, but they were
> already down 28-14 and lacking enough consistency
> on offense to overcome a 2 touchdown deficiency."
>
>
> Because Westfield's coaches are too stubborn to
> change anything, period! Their offense was abysmal
> the first time the 2 schools played, it's been
> pretty mediocre all season, other than
> Thrasher-Walker & Gray's running it just hasn't
> had any punch. Westfield's best bet would have
> been to run the wildcat ALL game long, Burns as
> the QB. Run the option heavy out of it, worked
> pretty well for SOCO and Stonewall. Burns is so
> electrifying, especially with the ball in his
> hands in the open field, why not run it?
>
> The offense coordinator did zip, zero, nada, as
> far as game planning went other than to run the
> same old plays they've run all season. Are you
> kidding, Centreville’s coaches and players are
> too good, that wasn't going to work. Look at
> Oakton last year, mediocre season, makes the
> playoffs, coaches move some players around, add a
> few plays, and they win the region. It's called
> good coaching.
>
> Anyone who watched Westfield this year new the
> defense is what kept them in the games they won.
> However, against a talent laden offense such as
> Centreville's, the offense needed to step up, they
> didn't. Centreville's defense outplayed them just
> as they did the first go round.
>
> Good luck to Centreville next weekend, beat Oscar
> Smith and bring the 6A championship back to
> Northern Virginia!!
This post is spot on. First congrats to Centreville. We'll be rooting for you to bring the State title back to Northen Va.
Westfield's demise the last few years has been its conservative and unimaginative play calling. It was the same old thing yesterday. Not having Thrasher-Walker was a killer but all the more reason to mix it up a bit. This type of play calling was also a problem in the Northern Region championship game last year. Last years team had an athletic QB who could run and throw and they never deviated.
This is a good coaching staff, they tend to get the most out of what they have but they need some more variety in offensive play calling.
Good luck C'ville!
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> "There is a question that begs to be asked
> regarding the Westfield/Centreville game. That is,
> why did Westfield stick with their conservative
> game plan when CVille was crowding the line of
> scrimmage, their passing game was not working at
> all and their defense was getting worn down
> because of CVille's ball control during the first
> half. Specifically, why didn't they try an onside
> kick after Evans broke the 60 plus run in the
> third quarter. Because they did not kick to the
> deep backs all game there would have been around a
> 20 yard difference in field position even if it
> was not successful. Sure, it would be risky and
> would potentially would have put the game out of
> reach if they gave up a touchdown, but they were
> already down 28-14 and lacking enough consistency
> on offense to overcome a 2 touchdown deficiency."
>
>
> Because Westfield's coaches are too stubborn to
> change anything, period! Their offense was abysmal
> the first time the 2 schools played, it's been
> pretty mediocre all season, other than
> Thrasher-Walker & Gray's running it just hasn't
> had any punch. Westfield's best bet would have
> been to run the wildcat ALL game long, Burns as
> the QB. Run the option heavy out of it, worked
> pretty well for SOCO and Stonewall. Burns is so
> electrifying, especially with the ball in his
> hands in the open field, why not run it?
>
> The offense coordinator did zip, zero, nada, as
> far as game planning went other than to run the
> same old plays they've run all season. Are you
> kidding, Centreville’s coaches and players are
> too good, that wasn't going to work. Look at
> Oakton last year, mediocre season, makes the
> playoffs, coaches move some players around, add a
> few plays, and they win the region. It's called
> good coaching.
>
> Anyone who watched Westfield this year new the
> defense is what kept them in the games they won.
> However, against a talent laden offense such as
> Centreville's, the offense needed to step up, they
> didn't. Centreville's defense outplayed them just
> as they did the first go round.
>
> Good luck to Centreville next weekend, beat Oscar
> Smith and bring the 6A championship back to
> Northern Virginia!!
This post is spot on. First congrats to Centreville. We'll be rooting for you to bring the State title back to Northen Va.
Westfield's demise the last few years has been its conservative and unimaginative play calling. It was the same old thing yesterday. Not having Thrasher-Walker was a killer but all the more reason to mix it up a bit. This type of play calling was also a problem in the Northern Region championship game last year. Last years team had an athletic QB who could run and throw and they never deviated.
This is a good coaching staff, they tend to get the most out of what they have but they need some more variety in offensive play calling.
Good luck C'ville!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: December 08, 2013 11:25AM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> My question would be did Westfield take any note
> at all of that fun game a couple weeks ago between
> Centreville and South County? Because they are
> the only ones who truly gave Centreville any
> fits...
The aggressive game plan that South County used is probably not appropriate for WF because they are too conservative to be comfortable with that approach, but I do agree that the wild cat should have been used more to compensate for the missing play making ability of Thrasher-Walker.
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> My question would be did Westfield take any note
> at all of that fun game a couple weeks ago between
> Centreville and South County? Because they are
> the only ones who truly gave Centreville any
> fits...
The aggressive game plan that South County used is probably not appropriate for WF because they are too conservative to be comfortable with that approach, but I do agree that the wild cat should have been used more to compensate for the missing play making ability of Thrasher-Walker.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 08, 2013 11:44AM
Bulldawg2 Wrote:
> Not having Thrasher-Walker was a killer ...
Thrasher-Walker played in the first game and the score was 28-0. He is a great player, but it wouldn't have mattered.
> Not having Thrasher-Walker was a killer ...
Thrasher-Walker played in the first game and the score was 28-0. He is a great player, but it wouldn't have mattered.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RootBoy
()
Date: December 08, 2013 12:12PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> My question would be did Westfield take any note
> at all of that fun game a couple weeks ago between
> Centreville and South County? Because they are
> the only ones who truly gave Centreville any
> fits...
I am sure Westfield noticed South County taking it to Centreville a couple weeks ago; everyone else did. I just don't know that, even if the coaches had had the will, if Westfield has all the parts necessary for an effective triple option attack like South County has perfected. Some would argue that Westfield did, but there are a lot of moving pieces that need to be perfected, especially starting with the QB in the option. I think Westfield's Burns is a great pure runner and receiver, but not as good at making decisions and being versatile with the ball as a QB. South County had a very big, physical, fast and surprisingly elusive QB who above all else was smart with the ball, and distributed it very effectively in the option, also usually passing well when needed. South County's offensive production speaks for itself. They are still ranked #4 in the state. Sure, they had some weak teams on the schedule, but so did Lake Braddock and Centreville, and South County put up 35 on Centreville, one of the best, if not the best, teams in the state. If the Stallions had had their defense from two years ago in the 2011 state championship run, there is a good chance they would be headed to UVA next weekend. Not bad for a small school (< 2,000 students) playing in 6A with the big boys.
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> My question would be did Westfield take any note
> at all of that fun game a couple weeks ago between
> Centreville and South County? Because they are
> the only ones who truly gave Centreville any
> fits...
I am sure Westfield noticed South County taking it to Centreville a couple weeks ago; everyone else did. I just don't know that, even if the coaches had had the will, if Westfield has all the parts necessary for an effective triple option attack like South County has perfected. Some would argue that Westfield did, but there are a lot of moving pieces that need to be perfected, especially starting with the QB in the option. I think Westfield's Burns is a great pure runner and receiver, but not as good at making decisions and being versatile with the ball as a QB. South County had a very big, physical, fast and surprisingly elusive QB who above all else was smart with the ball, and distributed it very effectively in the option, also usually passing well when needed. South County's offensive production speaks for itself. They are still ranked #4 in the state. Sure, they had some weak teams on the schedule, but so did Lake Braddock and Centreville, and South County put up 35 on Centreville, one of the best, if not the best, teams in the state. If the Stallions had had their defense from two years ago in the 2011 state championship run, there is a good chance they would be headed to UVA next weekend. Not bad for a small school (< 2,000 students) playing in 6A with the big boys.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Bulldawg2
()
Date: December 08, 2013 01:05PM
Interesting Wrote:
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> Bulldawg2 Wrote:
>
> > Not having Thrasher-Walker was a killer ...
>
> Thrasher-Walker played in the first game and the
> score was 28-0. He is a great player, but it
> wouldn't have mattered.
Listen, Centreville's the better team. But in HS football when your best player is not on the field, of course it matters.
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> Bulldawg2 Wrote:
>
> > Not having Thrasher-Walker was a killer ...
>
> Thrasher-Walker played in the first game and the
> score was 28-0. He is a great player, but it
> wouldn't have mattered.
Listen, Centreville's the better team. But in HS football when your best player is not on the field, of course it matters.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 08, 2013 04:47PM
RootBoy Wrote:
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> Not bad for a small school (< 2,000 students) playing in 6A
> with the big boys.
Good point but to be precise SC is at 2080 students this year.
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> Not bad for a small school (< 2,000 students) playing in 6A
> with the big boys.
Good point but to be precise SC is at 2080 students this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VA 4 Dayz
()
Date: December 08, 2013 05:44PM
Anyone know the Conference 5 (concorde district) all-conference teams for this year?
Thanks
Thanks
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nova fan
()
Date: December 08, 2013 07:49PM
Concur Thrasher walker prob would not have made much difference. Also it is hard to all of a sudden changefrom one type of offense to another. If you dont work on it all year long you are not going to become a zone read or triple option offense in week14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
baller
()
Date: December 08, 2013 07:56PM
What time are the games next saturday? Do we have to pre-purchase tickets?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nova fan
()
Date: December 08, 2013 08:13PM
At the point in the year where they do the 2 year classification of schools soco had 1989 students. They now have right around 2000 but not 2080. No where near the size of braddock westfield tc and most 6a north schools
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:27PM
nova fan Wrote:
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> They now have right around 2000 but not 2080.
http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:1579449058844265::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:420
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> They now have right around 2000 but not 2080.
http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:1579449058844265::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:420
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 08, 2013 09:42PM
That 2011 SoCo team had really good D. In playoffs, it shutdown 10-0 SB and 12-0 Yorktown and then gave Phoebus fits at UVA before losing 20-10. Yet the D has been down in playoffs since then, giving up a combined 103 points in losses to Yorktown (2012) and CV (2013). This year SoSo's O gsce CV big trouble, it also lost to Chantilly and gave up 45 to LB. As good as SoCo's option has been, Its tough to go far when you give up 55, 48, 45, etc. The more good programs see the option, the better they will adjust, too. SoCo's record the past 3 years is 26-13. That sounds about right for its size and schedule.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2013 09:50PM by OneSBFan.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2013 09:50PM by OneSBFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EFF EWE 757
()
Date: December 08, 2013 10:17PM
Pompous ass fans down there in the 757 (beach for those of you who do not know the area code by which they like to call themselves). Transfer heaven, all the good players on Oscar Smith have come in from other schools. Andrew Brown their best lineman for instance from Indian River. Talking smack about smash mouth football, how NOVA has no chance, etc. What goes around comes around asswipes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 08, 2013 10:25PM
Agree, I hope CVille smacks them in the mouth so they shut up.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 08, 2013 11:40PM
EFF EWE 757 Wrote:
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> Pompous ass fans down there in the 757 (beach for
> those of you who do not know the area code by
> which they like to call themselves). Transfer
> heaven, all the good players on Oscar Smith have
> come in from other schools. Andrew Brown their
> best lineman for instance from Indian River.
> Talking smack about smash mouth football, how NOVA
> has no chance, etc. What goes around comes around
> asswipes.
Yes they have taken their fair share of transfers over the years, but apparently this year of the 22 starters the only transfer is Brown.
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> Pompous ass fans down there in the 757 (beach for
> those of you who do not know the area code by
> which they like to call themselves). Transfer
> heaven, all the good players on Oscar Smith have
> come in from other schools. Andrew Brown their
> best lineman for instance from Indian River.
> Talking smack about smash mouth football, how NOVA
> has no chance, etc. What goes around comes around
> asswipes.
Yes they have taken their fair share of transfers over the years, but apparently this year of the 22 starters the only transfer is Brown.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 09, 2013 08:19AM
baller Wrote:
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> What time are the games next saturday? Do we have
> to pre-purchase tickets?
Looks like 5A at 12:07 and 6A at 4:07. No need to prepurchase tickets.
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> What time are the games next saturday? Do we have
> to pre-purchase tickets?
Looks like 5A at 12:07 and 6A at 4:07. No need to prepurchase tickets.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
TV
()
Date: December 09, 2013 08:43AM
VTboy Wrote:
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> baller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What time are the games next saturday? Do we
> have
> > to pre-purchase tickets?
>
> Looks like 5A at 12:07 and 6A at 4:07. No need to
> prepurchase tickets.
I know in 2011, the game was on cable. Does anyone know if this game will be televised and if so what network will carry it?
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> baller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What time are the games next saturday? Do we
> have
> > to pre-purchase tickets?
>
> Looks like 5A at 12:07 and 6A at 4:07. No need to
> prepurchase tickets.
I know in 2011, the game was on cable. Does anyone know if this game will be televised and if so what network will carry it?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 09, 2013 09:12AM
TV Wrote:
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> I know in 2011, the game was on cable. Does
> anyone know if this game will be televised and if
> so what network will carry it?
For $10 you can watch it here:
http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/67467
Not sure what Gameday (www.gamedaymagazine.com) is doing, they usually have a day pass option too. Don't know if they have rights to the final though.
I will be at UVa...forecast is for showers, ugh.
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> I know in 2011, the game was on cable. Does
> anyone know if this game will be televised and if
> so what network will carry it?
For $10 you can watch it here:
http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/67467
Not sure what Gameday (www.gamedaymagazine.com) is doing, they usually have a day pass option too. Don't know if they have rights to the final though.
I will be at UVa...forecast is for showers, ugh.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
tv
()
Date: December 09, 2013 09:30AM
VTboy Wrote:
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> TV Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know in 2011, the game was on cable. Does
> > anyone know if this game will be televised and
> if
> > so what network will carry it?
>
> For $10 you can watch it here:
> http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/67467
>
> Not sure what Gameday (www.gamedaymagazine.com) is
> doing, they usually have a day pass option too.
> Don't know if they have rights to the final
> though.
>
> I will be at UVa...forecast is for showers, ugh.
Thanks VTboy. I wonder if it's the same feed. Gameday streaming quality is not that great and they were charging 14.99 for the semi-final game.
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> TV Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know in 2011, the game was on cable. Does
> > anyone know if this game will be televised and
> if
> > so what network will carry it?
>
> For $10 you can watch it here:
> http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/67467
>
> Not sure what Gameday (www.gamedaymagazine.com) is
> doing, they usually have a day pass option too.
> Don't know if they have rights to the final
> though.
>
> I will be at UVa...forecast is for showers, ugh.
Thanks VTboy. I wonder if it's the same feed. Gameday streaming quality is not that great and they were charging 14.99 for the semi-final game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 09, 2013 10:30AM
VTboy Wrote:
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> EFF EWE 757 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pompous ass fans down there in the 757 (beach
> for
> > those of you who do not know the area code by
> > which they like to call themselves). Transfer
> > heaven, all the good players on Oscar Smith
> have
> > come in from other schools. Andrew Brown their
> > best lineman for instance from Indian River.
> > Talking smack about smash mouth football, how
> NOVA
> > has no chance, etc. What goes around comes
> around
> > asswipes.
>
> Yes they have taken their fair share of transfers
> over the years, but apparently this year of the 22
> starters the only transfer is Brown.
------
Thanks for pointing out the facts. Somebody who posts that "...all the good players from Oscar Smith have come in from other schools" doesn't know much about VHSL or beach football after the cleanups of 10 years ago. Heard the same complaints about up here about SB when we won 7 of 10 NR-D5 titles and also when we beat Westield twice. Didn't hear it this year when Westfield beat us. This year CV can play with anybody in the state and I think we will see that at UVA. Smith struggled on O last week and might have trouble stopping #23 this week.
-------------------------------------------------------
> EFF EWE 757 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pompous ass fans down there in the 757 (beach
> for
> > those of you who do not know the area code by
> > which they like to call themselves). Transfer
> > heaven, all the good players on Oscar Smith
> have
> > come in from other schools. Andrew Brown their
> > best lineman for instance from Indian River.
> > Talking smack about smash mouth football, how
> NOVA
> > has no chance, etc. What goes around comes
> around
> > asswipes.
>
> Yes they have taken their fair share of transfers
> over the years, but apparently this year of the 22
> starters the only transfer is Brown.
------
Thanks for pointing out the facts. Somebody who posts that "...all the good players from Oscar Smith have come in from other schools" doesn't know much about VHSL or beach football after the cleanups of 10 years ago. Heard the same complaints about up here about SB when we won 7 of 10 NR-D5 titles and also when we beat Westield twice. Didn't hear it this year when Westfield beat us. This year CV can play with anybody in the state and I think we will see that at UVA. Smith struggled on O last week and might have trouble stopping #23 this week.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 09, 2013 10:40AM
mysteriomaco Wrote:
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> Agree, I hope CVille smacks them in the mouth so
> they shut up.
It's just FB, and almost every team and its fans talk smack. You've seen it on here all year with CV, Westfield, LB and SoCo fans trading barbs. Losing to CV this year won't shut anybody up; CV has beaten every team it has faced ultimately by a big margin. So losing to CV is no shame. CV has speed at DB, a good OL, a marquee back and an ability to go on tears such as beating SoCo 27-0 in q4. Plus Smith is very beatable anyway with a young QB and an OL that isn't as strong as the one at 2011 UVA. You just have to do the short passes early and often before 3rd down to counteract its DL.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2013 10:41AM by OneSBFan.
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> Agree, I hope CVille smacks them in the mouth so
> they shut up.
It's just FB, and almost every team and its fans talk smack. You've seen it on here all year with CV, Westfield, LB and SoCo fans trading barbs. Losing to CV this year won't shut anybody up; CV has beaten every team it has faced ultimately by a big margin. So losing to CV is no shame. CV has speed at DB, a good OL, a marquee back and an ability to go on tears such as beating SoCo 27-0 in q4. Plus Smith is very beatable anyway with a young QB and an OL that isn't as strong as the one at 2011 UVA. You just have to do the short passes early and often before 3rd down to counteract its DL.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2013 10:41AM by OneSBFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hussein Obama
()
Date: December 09, 2013 10:48AM
Football is fucking gay! All this attention to high school football is pathetic. You people have no life so you live through little kids that you encourage to beat themselves to death, bully and fuck each other in the showers.
Only faggots play high school football and only parents who don't love their children make them play.
Only faggots play high school football and only parents who don't love their children make them play.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 09, 2013 11:11AM
tv Wrote:
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> VTboy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For $10 you can watch it here:
> > http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/67467
> >
> > Not sure what Gameday (www.gamedaymagazine.com)
> is
> > doing, they usually have a day pass option too.
>
> > Don't know if they have rights to the final
> > though.
> >
> > I will be at UVa...forecast is for showers,
> ugh.
>
> Thanks VTboy. I wonder if it's the same feed.
> Gameday streaming quality is not that great and
> they were charging 14.99 for the semi-final game.
Last years D6 Championship (Bird/OLakes) is on Youtube, it looks like a VHSL Production and nothing to do with Gameday. The feed is from a different website than Gameday so looks like it's totally unrelated.
-------------------------------------------------------
> VTboy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For $10 you can watch it here:
> > http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/67467
> >
> > Not sure what Gameday (www.gamedaymagazine.com)
> is
> > doing, they usually have a day pass option too.
>
> > Don't know if they have rights to the final
> > though.
> >
> > I will be at UVa...forecast is for showers,
> ugh.
>
> Thanks VTboy. I wonder if it's the same feed.
> Gameday streaming quality is not that great and
> they were charging 14.99 for the semi-final game.
Last years D6 Championship (Bird/OLakes) is on Youtube, it looks like a VHSL Production and nothing to do with Gameday. The feed is from a different website than Gameday so looks like it's totally unrelated.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
VTboy
()
Date: December 09, 2013 05:02PM
VTboy Wrote:
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> baller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What time are the games next saturday? Do we
> have
> > to pre-purchase tickets?
>
> Looks like 5A at 12:07 and 6A at 4:07. No need to
> prepurchase tickets.
Looks like CVHS is indeed selling tickets in advance...can get them at lunches if you have a child there, or go to the bball games Fri nite and buy a ticket. Will prob save a long wait in line at UVa. Here is the official email from VHSL:
Spectators are encouraged to purchase Pre-sale tickets. Spectators with Pre-Sale tickets may enter the West Gate. There will be NO TICKETS SOLD at the West Gate.
Tickets can be purchased at the stadium EAST GATE ONLY. Those spectators that are using an APPROVED PASS from the VHSL’S list can enter at the PASS GATE located by the EAST GATE.
All spectators are to find seats on the lower levels of both sides of the stadium on their TEAMS SIDE. NO SPECTATORS WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE UPPER SECTIONS OF THE STADIUM. Spectators with Disabilities can enter the Stadium at both gates and there is seating around the entire concourse for the handicapped.
NO TAILGATING will be allowed in any of the parking lots at any time.
The University of Virginia does not allow the following items to enter their stadium:
Prohibited Items:
Alcohol, Food & Beverages
Umbrellas
Backpacks or Sport Bags
Strollers (except umbrella strollers)
Coolers, Bottles, Cans
Weapons (of any kind)
Video Cameras (most events)
Tripods
Empty Containers
Laser Pointers
Artificial Noise Makers
Banners/Flags on sticks or poles
-------------------------------------------------------
> baller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What time are the games next saturday? Do we
> have
> > to pre-purchase tickets?
>
> Looks like 5A at 12:07 and 6A at 4:07. No need to
> prepurchase tickets.
Looks like CVHS is indeed selling tickets in advance...can get them at lunches if you have a child there, or go to the bball games Fri nite and buy a ticket. Will prob save a long wait in line at UVa. Here is the official email from VHSL:
Spectators are encouraged to purchase Pre-sale tickets. Spectators with Pre-Sale tickets may enter the West Gate. There will be NO TICKETS SOLD at the West Gate.
Tickets can be purchased at the stadium EAST GATE ONLY. Those spectators that are using an APPROVED PASS from the VHSL’S list can enter at the PASS GATE located by the EAST GATE.
All spectators are to find seats on the lower levels of both sides of the stadium on their TEAMS SIDE. NO SPECTATORS WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE UPPER SECTIONS OF THE STADIUM. Spectators with Disabilities can enter the Stadium at both gates and there is seating around the entire concourse for the handicapped.
NO TAILGATING will be allowed in any of the parking lots at any time.
The University of Virginia does not allow the following items to enter their stadium:
Prohibited Items:
Alcohol, Food & Beverages
Umbrellas
Backpacks or Sport Bags
Strollers (except umbrella strollers)
Coolers, Bottles, Cans
Weapons (of any kind)
Video Cameras (most events)
Tripods
Empty Containers
Laser Pointers
Artificial Noise Makers
Banners/Flags on sticks or poles
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 09, 2013 07:13PM
The 2013 football season is sadly over for most of the local teams, so I wanted to take this chance to rank all the local teams this year based on how good I thought they were (based on only the thoughts of just a random guy in the stands who doesn't know a damn thing about football, me!). I included all teams from Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun and Prince William... Feel free to pull and poke at this list however you like...
#1. Centreville (6A, Clifton) ... State champions? No one has slowed them down even a little outside SoCo.
#2. Briar Woods (5A, Ashburn) ... also playing for the state title, don't talk about how they are a smaller school.
#3. Westfield (6A, Chantilly) ... the playoffs proved that they belong at this rank. Luck or skill, you decide.
#4. Lake Braddock (6A, Burke) ... the coaches choked, pure and simple, so they fall a little in my eyes.
#5. C.D. Hylton (6A, Woodbridge) ... Impressive performance this year, too bad they are in the south now.
#6. Broad Run (5A, Ashburn) ... gained a couple spots in my eyes by showing a coach CAN change a gameplan.
#7. Stone Bridge (5A, Ashburn) ... still wondering just what happened out there this year.
#8. South County (6A, Lorton) ... A beautiful offensive attack, but they still need other elements of the game.
#9. James Robinson (6A, Fairfax) ... a team that turned out to be the real thing. Keep an eye on these guys.
#10. Forest Park (6A, Woodbridge) ... Feeling sorry because they had to go to ROANOKE for 1ST ROUND PLAYOFF game.
#11. Washington-Lee (6A, Arlington) ... They finally got that weight of Yorktown off their back this year.
#12. Stonewall Jackson (6A, Manassas) ... I still don't know a damn thing about this team.
#13. T.C. Williams (6A, Alexandria) ... Nice play, they make the playoffs for the first time in how many decades?
#14. Langley (6A, McLean) ... had a surprisingly better offensive attack than I expected, darn good QB.
#15. Patriot (6A, Nokesville) ... Farm... House... Farm... Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm... House...
#16. Fairfax (6A, Fairfax) ... Played above their weight this year, gotta love this feel-good story here.
#17. Yorktown (6A, Arlington) ... Fell down by losing to Washington-Lee for the first time since, well, er...
#18. Loudoun Valley (3A, Purcellville) ... Don't give crap about smaller schools, they were amazing to watch!
#19. Chantilly (6A, Chantilly) ... They did beat SoCo (for what that's worth). Can't wait to see them next year.
#20. Woodgrove (4A, Purcellville) ... Farm... Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm... House... see I can do this all day.
#21. Tuscarora (5A, Leesburg) ... when you play 3A schools, you end up not being ready for a 5A playoff.
#22. Battlefield (6A, Haymarket) ... A good quality team like they always seem to field.
#23. Falls Church (5A, Falls Church) ... another fun team on the rise, can't wait to see what they do next year.
#24. Woodbridge (6A, Woodbridge)
#25. Dominion (4A, Sterling)
#26. Hayfield (6A, Alexandria) ... Welcome to the 6A, you gotta play with the big boys now.
#27. Oakton (6A, Vienna) ... They will get back on track next year, you can count on it.
#28. West Potomac (6A, Alexandria) ... Liked their football better when they were Groveton High School.
#29. McLean (6A, McLean) ... It's probably better that they missed the playoffs, it might force some changes.
#30. W.T. Woodson (6A, Fairfax) ... Probably should go and stick to the basketball season.
#31. South Lakes (6A, Reston)
#32. Robert E. Lee (5A, Springfield) ... Honestly, they are worse than this ranking, but they're mine!
#33. Potomac (5A, Dumfries)
#34. Loudoun County (4A, Leesburg)
#35. Freedom (5A, Woodbridge) ... Why are two schools so close to each other named the same damn thing?
#36. Kettle Run (3A, Nokesville) ... Patriot's little step-brother?
#37. Osbourn Park (6A, Manassas)
#38. Potomac Falls (5A, Sterling) ... They appear to be a program on the rise, but they have quite a way to go.
#39. George Mason (2A, Falls Church) ... Yes, they have a football team, and yes, they were in the playoffs.
#40. Mount Vernon (5A, Alexandria) ... Made the playoffs, but then again, so did everybody else.
#41. Herndon (6A, Herndon) ... Looks like their team is holding together for next year, experience helps.
#42. Thomas Edison (5A, Alexandria) ... My 9-year-old cousin's flag football team plays a better defense.
#43. Thomas Jefferson (5A, Alexandria) ... Launched a satellite, still needs to launch a football.
#44. West Springfield (6A, Springfield) ... This is me being objective. They beat my Lee, else they'd be last.
#45. Osbourn (6A, Manassas) ... Will they always be outshone by neighboring Osbourn Park?
#46. J.E.B. Stuart (5A, Falls Church) ... not much football right now, just money laundering.
#47. James Madison (6A, Vienna) ... needs all the help they can get, it is like a circus over there.
#48. Park View (4A, Sterling)
#49. Heritage (4A, Leesburg) ... barely missed the playoffs, but did upset Loudoun County.
#50. Gar-Field (6A, Woodbridge) ... I'm probably dating myself, but I remember when these guys were GOOD.
#51. John Champe (3A, Aldie)
#52. Annandale (6A, Annandale) ... classless team, classless coach, classless school, fire everyone.
#53. Wakefield (5A, Arlington) ... at least Annandale actually won a game.
#54. Freedom (5A, South Riding)
#55. Manassas Park (3A, Manassas Park) ... There are two teams worse than this one? Can I call it a team?
#56. George Marshall (5A, Falls Church) ... If I can actually say one school is worse than this bunch.
#57. Brentsville District (3A, Nokesville) ... they win the distinction of being the worst area thing... Hurray!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2013 07:38PM by nat4lee.
#1. Centreville (6A, Clifton) ... State champions? No one has slowed them down even a little outside SoCo.
#2. Briar Woods (5A, Ashburn) ... also playing for the state title, don't talk about how they are a smaller school.
#3. Westfield (6A, Chantilly) ... the playoffs proved that they belong at this rank. Luck or skill, you decide.
#4. Lake Braddock (6A, Burke) ... the coaches choked, pure and simple, so they fall a little in my eyes.
#5. C.D. Hylton (6A, Woodbridge) ... Impressive performance this year, too bad they are in the south now.
#6. Broad Run (5A, Ashburn) ... gained a couple spots in my eyes by showing a coach CAN change a gameplan.
#7. Stone Bridge (5A, Ashburn) ... still wondering just what happened out there this year.
#8. South County (6A, Lorton) ... A beautiful offensive attack, but they still need other elements of the game.
#9. James Robinson (6A, Fairfax) ... a team that turned out to be the real thing. Keep an eye on these guys.
#10. Forest Park (6A, Woodbridge) ... Feeling sorry because they had to go to ROANOKE for 1ST ROUND PLAYOFF game.
#11. Washington-Lee (6A, Arlington) ... They finally got that weight of Yorktown off their back this year.
#12. Stonewall Jackson (6A, Manassas) ... I still don't know a damn thing about this team.
#13. T.C. Williams (6A, Alexandria) ... Nice play, they make the playoffs for the first time in how many decades?
#14. Langley (6A, McLean) ... had a surprisingly better offensive attack than I expected, darn good QB.
#15. Patriot (6A, Nokesville) ... Farm... House... Farm... Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm... House...
#16. Fairfax (6A, Fairfax) ... Played above their weight this year, gotta love this feel-good story here.
#17. Yorktown (6A, Arlington) ... Fell down by losing to Washington-Lee for the first time since, well, er...
#18. Loudoun Valley (3A, Purcellville) ... Don't give crap about smaller schools, they were amazing to watch!
#19. Chantilly (6A, Chantilly) ... They did beat SoCo (for what that's worth). Can't wait to see them next year.
#20. Woodgrove (4A, Purcellville) ... Farm... Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm... House... see I can do this all day.
#21. Tuscarora (5A, Leesburg) ... when you play 3A schools, you end up not being ready for a 5A playoff.
#22. Battlefield (6A, Haymarket) ... A good quality team like they always seem to field.
#23. Falls Church (5A, Falls Church) ... another fun team on the rise, can't wait to see what they do next year.
#24. Woodbridge (6A, Woodbridge)
#25. Dominion (4A, Sterling)
#26. Hayfield (6A, Alexandria) ... Welcome to the 6A, you gotta play with the big boys now.
#27. Oakton (6A, Vienna) ... They will get back on track next year, you can count on it.
#28. West Potomac (6A, Alexandria) ... Liked their football better when they were Groveton High School.
#29. McLean (6A, McLean) ... It's probably better that they missed the playoffs, it might force some changes.
#30. W.T. Woodson (6A, Fairfax) ... Probably should go and stick to the basketball season.
#31. South Lakes (6A, Reston)
#32. Robert E. Lee (5A, Springfield) ... Honestly, they are worse than this ranking, but they're mine!
#33. Potomac (5A, Dumfries)
#34. Loudoun County (4A, Leesburg)
#35. Freedom (5A, Woodbridge) ... Why are two schools so close to each other named the same damn thing?
#36. Kettle Run (3A, Nokesville) ... Patriot's little step-brother?
#37. Osbourn Park (6A, Manassas)
#38. Potomac Falls (5A, Sterling) ... They appear to be a program on the rise, but they have quite a way to go.
#39. George Mason (2A, Falls Church) ... Yes, they have a football team, and yes, they were in the playoffs.
#40. Mount Vernon (5A, Alexandria) ... Made the playoffs, but then again, so did everybody else.
#41. Herndon (6A, Herndon) ... Looks like their team is holding together for next year, experience helps.
#42. Thomas Edison (5A, Alexandria) ... My 9-year-old cousin's flag football team plays a better defense.
#43. Thomas Jefferson (5A, Alexandria) ... Launched a satellite, still needs to launch a football.
#44. West Springfield (6A, Springfield) ... This is me being objective. They beat my Lee, else they'd be last.
#45. Osbourn (6A, Manassas) ... Will they always be outshone by neighboring Osbourn Park?
#46. J.E.B. Stuart (5A, Falls Church) ... not much football right now, just money laundering.
#47. James Madison (6A, Vienna) ... needs all the help they can get, it is like a circus over there.
#48. Park View (4A, Sterling)
#49. Heritage (4A, Leesburg) ... barely missed the playoffs, but did upset Loudoun County.
#50. Gar-Field (6A, Woodbridge) ... I'm probably dating myself, but I remember when these guys were GOOD.
#51. John Champe (3A, Aldie)
#52. Annandale (6A, Annandale) ... classless team, classless coach, classless school, fire everyone.
#53. Wakefield (5A, Arlington) ... at least Annandale actually won a game.
#54. Freedom (5A, South Riding)
#55. Manassas Park (3A, Manassas Park) ... There are two teams worse than this one? Can I call it a team?
#56. George Marshall (5A, Falls Church) ... If I can actually say one school is worse than this bunch.
#57. Brentsville District (3A, Nokesville) ... they win the distinction of being the worst area thing... Hurray!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2013 07:38PM by nat4lee.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: December 09, 2013 09:09PM
Wow. You didn't miss a team.
I think I'd swap Langley and W-L.
Re: Forest Park - I saw someone point out:
@ Patrick Henry - 460 mile round trip
@ Varina - 180 mile round trip
@ Smith - 360 mile round trip
3-week total: 1000 miles
I think I'd swap Langley and W-L.
Re: Forest Park - I saw someone point out:
@ Patrick Henry - 460 mile round trip
@ Varina - 180 mile round trip
@ Smith - 360 mile round trip
3-week total: 1000 miles
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 09, 2013 10:08PM
nat4lee Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The 2013 football season is sadly over for most of
> the local teams, so I wanted to take this chance
> to rank all the local teams this year based on how
> good I thought they were (based on only the
> thoughts of just a random guy in the stands who
> doesn't know a damn thing about football, me!). I
> included all teams from Arlington, Fairfax,
> Loudoun and Prince William... Feel free to pull
> and poke at this list however you like...
>
>
> #1. Centreville (6A, Clifton) ... State
> champions? No one has slowed them down even a
> little outside SoCo.
> #2. Briar Woods (5A, Ashburn) ... also playing
> for the state title, don't talk about how they are
> a smaller school.
> #3. Westfield (6A, Chantilly) ... the playoffs
> proved that they belong at this rank. Luck or
> skill, you decide.
> #4. Lake Braddock (6A, Burke) ... the coaches
> choked, pure and simple, so they fall a little in
> my eyes.
> #5. C.D. Hylton (6A, Woodbridge) ... Impressive
> performance this year, too bad they are in the
> south now.
> #6. Broad Run (5A, Ashburn) ... gained a couple
> spots in my eyes by showing a coach CAN change a
> gameplan.
> #7. Stone Bridge (5A, Ashburn) ... still wondering
> just what happened out there this year.
> #8. South County (6A, Lorton) ... A beautiful
> offensive attack, but they still need other
> elements of the game.
> #9. James Robinson (6A, Fairfax) ... a team that
> turned out to be the real thing. Keep an eye on
> these guys.
> #10. Forest Park (6A, Woodbridge) ... Feeling
> sorry because they had to go to ROANOKE for 1ST
> ROUND PLAYOFF game.
> #11. Washington-Lee (6A, Arlington) ... They
> finally got that weight of Yorktown off their back
> this year.
> #12. Stonewall Jackson (6A, Manassas) ... I
> still don't know a damn thing about this team.
> #13. T.C. Williams (6A, Alexandria) ... Nice
> play, they make the playoffs for the first time in
> how many decades?
> #14. Langley (6A, McLean) ... had a surprisingly
> better offensive attack than I expected, darn good
> QB.
> #15. Patriot (6A, Nokesville) ... Farm...
> House... Farm... Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm...
> House...
> #16. Fairfax (6A, Fairfax) ... Played above
> their weight this year, gotta love this feel-good
> story here.
> #17. Yorktown (6A, Arlington) ... Fell down by
> losing to Washington-Lee for the first time since,
> well, er...
> #18. Loudoun Valley (3A, Purcellville) ... Don't
> give crap about smaller schools, they were amazing
> to watch!
> #19. Chantilly (6A, Chantilly) ... They did beat
> SoCo (for what that's worth). Can't wait to see
> them next year.
> #20. Woodgrove (4A, Purcellville) ... Farm...
> Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm... House... see I can
> do this all day.
> #21. Tuscarora (5A, Leesburg) ... when you play
> 3A schools, you end up not being ready for a 5A
> playoff.
> #22. Battlefield (6A, Haymarket) ... A good
> quality team like they always seem to field.
> #23. Falls Church (5A, Falls Church) ... another
> fun team on the rise, can't wait to see what they
> do next year.
> #24. Woodbridge (6A, Woodbridge)
> #25. Dominion (4A, Sterling)
> #26. Hayfield (6A, Alexandria) ... Welcome to
> the 6A, you gotta play with the big boys now.
> #27. Oakton (6A, Vienna) ... They will get back
> on track next year, you can count on it.
> #28. West Potomac (6A, Alexandria) ... Liked
> their football better when they were Groveton High
> School.
> #29. McLean (6A, McLean) ... It's probably
> better that they missed the playoffs, it might
> force some changes.
> #30. W.T. Woodson (6A, Fairfax) ... Probably
> should go and stick to the basketball season.
> #31. South Lakes (6A, Reston)
> #32. Robert E. Lee (5A, Springfield) ...
> Honestly, they are worse than this ranking, but
> they're mine!
> #33. Potomac (5A, Dumfries)
> #34. Loudoun County (4A, Leesburg)
> #35. Freedom (5A, Woodbridge) ... Why are two
> schools so close to each other named the same damn
> thing?
> #36. Kettle Run (3A, Nokesville) ... Patriot's
> little step-brother?
> #37. Osbourn Park (6A, Manassas)
> #38. Potomac Falls (5A, Sterling) ... They appear
> to be a program on the rise, but they have quite a
> way to go.
> #39. George Mason (2A, Falls Church) ... Yes,
> they have a football team, and yes, they were in
> the playoffs.
> #40. Mount Vernon (5A, Alexandria) ... Made the
> playoffs, but then again, so did everybody else.
> #41. Herndon (6A, Herndon) ... Looks like their
> team is holding together for next year, experience
> helps.
> #42. Thomas Edison (5A, Alexandria) ... My
> 9-year-old cousin's flag football team plays a
> better defense.
> #43. Thomas Jefferson (5A, Alexandria) ...
> Launched a satellite, still needs to launch a
> football.
> #44. West Springfield (6A, Springfield) ... This
> is me being objective. They beat my Lee, else
> they'd be last.
> #45. Osbourn (6A, Manassas) ... Will they always
> be outshone by neighboring Osbourn Park?
> #46. J.E.B. Stuart (5A, Falls Church) ... not
> much football right now, just money laundering.
> #47. James Madison (6A, Vienna) ... needs all
> the help they can get, it is like a circus over
> there.
> #48. Park View (4A, Sterling)
> #49. Heritage (4A, Leesburg) ... barely missed
> the playoffs, but did upset Loudoun County.
> #50. Gar-Field (6A, Woodbridge) ... I'm probably
> dating myself, but I remember when these guys were
> GOOD.
> #51. John Champe (3A, Aldie)
> #52. Annandale (6A, Annandale) ... classless
> team, classless coach, classless school, fire
> everyone.
> #53. Wakefield (5A, Arlington) ... at least
> Annandale actually won a game.
> #54. Freedom (5A, South Riding)
> #55. Manassas Park (3A, Manassas Park) ... There
> are two teams worse than this one? Can I call it
> a team?
> #56. George Marshall (5A, Falls Church) ... If I
> can actually say one school is worse than this
> bunch.
> #57. Brentsville District (3A, Nokesville) ...
> they win the distinction of being the worst area
> thing... Hurray!
--------
Good points. Maybe switch #17 Yorktown and put it ahead of #16 Fairfax. Yorktown eliminated Fsirfax in playoffs 12-7 and didn't even have Stewart.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The 2013 football season is sadly over for most of
> the local teams, so I wanted to take this chance
> to rank all the local teams this year based on how
> good I thought they were (based on only the
> thoughts of just a random guy in the stands who
> doesn't know a damn thing about football, me!). I
> included all teams from Arlington, Fairfax,
> Loudoun and Prince William... Feel free to pull
> and poke at this list however you like...
>
>
> #1. Centreville (6A, Clifton) ... State
> champions? No one has slowed them down even a
> little outside SoCo.
> #2. Briar Woods (5A, Ashburn) ... also playing
> for the state title, don't talk about how they are
> a smaller school.
> #3. Westfield (6A, Chantilly) ... the playoffs
> proved that they belong at this rank. Luck or
> skill, you decide.
> #4. Lake Braddock (6A, Burke) ... the coaches
> choked, pure and simple, so they fall a little in
> my eyes.
> #5. C.D. Hylton (6A, Woodbridge) ... Impressive
> performance this year, too bad they are in the
> south now.
> #6. Broad Run (5A, Ashburn) ... gained a couple
> spots in my eyes by showing a coach CAN change a
> gameplan.
> #7. Stone Bridge (5A, Ashburn) ... still wondering
> just what happened out there this year.
> #8. South County (6A, Lorton) ... A beautiful
> offensive attack, but they still need other
> elements of the game.
> #9. James Robinson (6A, Fairfax) ... a team that
> turned out to be the real thing. Keep an eye on
> these guys.
> #10. Forest Park (6A, Woodbridge) ... Feeling
> sorry because they had to go to ROANOKE for 1ST
> ROUND PLAYOFF game.
> #11. Washington-Lee (6A, Arlington) ... They
> finally got that weight of Yorktown off their back
> this year.
> #12. Stonewall Jackson (6A, Manassas) ... I
> still don't know a damn thing about this team.
> #13. T.C. Williams (6A, Alexandria) ... Nice
> play, they make the playoffs for the first time in
> how many decades?
> #14. Langley (6A, McLean) ... had a surprisingly
> better offensive attack than I expected, darn good
> QB.
> #15. Patriot (6A, Nokesville) ... Farm...
> House... Farm... Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm...
> House...
> #16. Fairfax (6A, Fairfax) ... Played above
> their weight this year, gotta love this feel-good
> story here.
> #17. Yorktown (6A, Arlington) ... Fell down by
> losing to Washington-Lee for the first time since,
> well, er...
> #18. Loudoun Valley (3A, Purcellville) ... Don't
> give crap about smaller schools, they were amazing
> to watch!
> #19. Chantilly (6A, Chantilly) ... They did beat
> SoCo (for what that's worth). Can't wait to see
> them next year.
> #20. Woodgrove (4A, Purcellville) ... Farm...
> Forest... SCHOOL?!!... Farm... House... see I can
> do this all day.
> #21. Tuscarora (5A, Leesburg) ... when you play
> 3A schools, you end up not being ready for a 5A
> playoff.
> #22. Battlefield (6A, Haymarket) ... A good
> quality team like they always seem to field.
> #23. Falls Church (5A, Falls Church) ... another
> fun team on the rise, can't wait to see what they
> do next year.
> #24. Woodbridge (6A, Woodbridge)
> #25. Dominion (4A, Sterling)
> #26. Hayfield (6A, Alexandria) ... Welcome to
> the 6A, you gotta play with the big boys now.
> #27. Oakton (6A, Vienna) ... They will get back
> on track next year, you can count on it.
> #28. West Potomac (6A, Alexandria) ... Liked
> their football better when they were Groveton High
> School.
> #29. McLean (6A, McLean) ... It's probably
> better that they missed the playoffs, it might
> force some changes.
> #30. W.T. Woodson (6A, Fairfax) ... Probably
> should go and stick to the basketball season.
> #31. South Lakes (6A, Reston)
> #32. Robert E. Lee (5A, Springfield) ...
> Honestly, they are worse than this ranking, but
> they're mine!
> #33. Potomac (5A, Dumfries)
> #34. Loudoun County (4A, Leesburg)
> #35. Freedom (5A, Woodbridge) ... Why are two
> schools so close to each other named the same damn
> thing?
> #36. Kettle Run (3A, Nokesville) ... Patriot's
> little step-brother?
> #37. Osbourn Park (6A, Manassas)
> #38. Potomac Falls (5A, Sterling) ... They appear
> to be a program on the rise, but they have quite a
> way to go.
> #39. George Mason (2A, Falls Church) ... Yes,
> they have a football team, and yes, they were in
> the playoffs.
> #40. Mount Vernon (5A, Alexandria) ... Made the
> playoffs, but then again, so did everybody else.
> #41. Herndon (6A, Herndon) ... Looks like their
> team is holding together for next year, experience
> helps.
> #42. Thomas Edison (5A, Alexandria) ... My
> 9-year-old cousin's flag football team plays a
> better defense.
> #43. Thomas Jefferson (5A, Alexandria) ...
> Launched a satellite, still needs to launch a
> football.
> #44. West Springfield (6A, Springfield) ... This
> is me being objective. They beat my Lee, else
> they'd be last.
> #45. Osbourn (6A, Manassas) ... Will they always
> be outshone by neighboring Osbourn Park?
> #46. J.E.B. Stuart (5A, Falls Church) ... not
> much football right now, just money laundering.
> #47. James Madison (6A, Vienna) ... needs all
> the help they can get, it is like a circus over
> there.
> #48. Park View (4A, Sterling)
> #49. Heritage (4A, Leesburg) ... barely missed
> the playoffs, but did upset Loudoun County.
> #50. Gar-Field (6A, Woodbridge) ... I'm probably
> dating myself, but I remember when these guys were
> GOOD.
> #51. John Champe (3A, Aldie)
> #52. Annandale (6A, Annandale) ... classless
> team, classless coach, classless school, fire
> everyone.
> #53. Wakefield (5A, Arlington) ... at least
> Annandale actually won a game.
> #54. Freedom (5A, South Riding)
> #55. Manassas Park (3A, Manassas Park) ... There
> are two teams worse than this one? Can I call it
> a team?
> #56. George Marshall (5A, Falls Church) ... If I
> can actually say one school is worse than this
> bunch.
> #57. Brentsville District (3A, Nokesville) ...
> they win the distinction of being the worst area
> thing... Hurray!
--------
Good points. Maybe switch #17 Yorktown and put it ahead of #16 Fairfax. Yorktown eliminated Fsirfax in playoffs 12-7 and didn't even have Stewart.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 09, 2013 10:23PM
@ newgatedenizen -- A good case for Langley. My reasoning behind moving Washington-Lee higher was due to the historic nature of this season to that program by winning the district.
@ OneSBfan -- A good point yourself. While Fairfax was defeated by Yorktown, I see Fairfax as a program on the rise this year, while Yorktown suffered a black eye against their crosstown rivals and stumbled through a little.
@ OneSBfan -- A good point yourself. While Fairfax was defeated by Yorktown, I see Fairfax as a program on the rise this year, while Yorktown suffered a black eye against their crosstown rivals and stumbled through a little.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 09, 2013 11:57PM
nat4lee Wrote:
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> @ newgatedenizen -- A good case for Langley. My
> reasoning behind moving Washington-Lee higher was
> due to the historic nature of this season to that
> program by winning the district.
>
> @ OneSBfan -- A good point yourself. While
> Fairfax was defeated by Yorktown, I see Fairfax as
> a program on the rise this year, while Yorktown
> suffered a black eye against their crosstown
> rivals and stumbled through a little.
----------
Ha, Yorktown over Fairfax bc Y earned more power points in reg season (despite the loss to WL), earned a higher seed and then beat Fairfax in playoffs w-o Stewart. Y also beat 'Tilly w-o Stewart. I thought you'd bust on me about SB sliding this year, haha.
-------------------------------------------------------
> @ newgatedenizen -- A good case for Langley. My
> reasoning behind moving Washington-Lee higher was
> due to the historic nature of this season to that
> program by winning the district.
>
> @ OneSBfan -- A good point yourself. While
> Fairfax was defeated by Yorktown, I see Fairfax as
> a program on the rise this year, while Yorktown
> suffered a black eye against their crosstown
> rivals and stumbled through a little.
----------
Ha, Yorktown over Fairfax bc Y earned more power points in reg season (despite the loss to WL), earned a higher seed and then beat Fairfax in playoffs w-o Stewart. Y also beat 'Tilly w-o Stewart. I thought you'd bust on me about SB sliding this year, haha.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: December 10, 2013 12:21AM
Nat4lee, that's an awesome assessment of the season. I like that you integrated teams from across the area and different classes. Your assessment of Robinson is excellent--that team had one really bad game vs CV but otherwise was tough. It passed the eye test for sure. The same for how you assessed SoCo--great O but D gave up points in key games. I saw Langley-SB and was impressed with the Saxons OL and RB, despite the loss. Also saw Yorktown beat Fairfax on a punishing late drive all on runs between the tackles by a backup RB. So I like Yorktown over Fairfax. You had to be there. More confusing, how did Chantilly, which lost to a team Stewart-less Yorktown, beat SoCo? Was it poor ball handling and penalties or did Chantilly stand tall?
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2013 12:25AM by SECEAST.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: December 10, 2013 12:24AM
Sorry. Been away for a while. Looked at a lot of Centreville and Oscar Smith games. To me, this comes down to Centreville’s pass defense.
The Colonial Forge game was a mudder. Not the type of game plan Smith will likely use on the UVA field. They’ve seen Centreville’s weak secondary and probably know it’s their vulnerability. I’d expect them to go 5 wide and Spread most of the time, with the occasional I-formation for select downs, with both run and pass as options in the I. I’d expect quick shots to eventually open something deep. From what I’ve seen of most of C’Ville’s secondary, they will not be able to cover man, and don’t do zone particularly well. Washington-Lee was able to pass on them, almost at will. (W-L just didn’t know how to score.) Oscar Smith is no Washington-Lee. They have several Division 1 level receivers, in Zack Jones, Jaylen Bradshaw, and Melvin Vaughn.
I’ve looked hard at C'Ville's secondary, and they, like most DBs today, pride themselves on tackles after the catch. Newsflash folks, tackles after the catch mean you just gave up 10-20 yards for a quality team. That means points in bunches. Congratulations on a tackle after you just gave up 20 yards and a first down seems pretty ridiculous, but it’s the in thing to do. (Although self-congratulations at all levels for what is a failure is common at all levels now.)
Shon Mitchell, the OS QB, is not the run of the mill NOVA QB. He has the athleticism of Stroman at Stonewall, but is very good passer. He can move, which will keep C’Ville’s LBs close to the line of scrimmage, and will help open the passing. And he is accurate. He doesn’t just lob the ball and hope for the best. He can drill it. He’s not a Div 1 QB (yet), but he is a better passer than anything C’Ville has faced. (Except possibly Appel at Washington-Lee, only in terms of passing.)
Smith’s screens in particular will be difficult for C’Ville to cope with. OS is disciplined and leaves very little to chance.
Unless the C’Ville secondary figures out how to cover in a hurry, or the C’Ville coaches rent some players who can cover tight and bottle up these receivers, this will be a long game for C’Ville. Frankly, and reluctantly, I don’t know that Haddock and crew can figure out this style of play, so I have to go with Oscar Smith, probably in a runaway. C’Ville might keep it close, but only if they match scores. Which will be difficult, as OS’ defense is very good.
Lastly, C’Ville’s passing game is pretty predictable. Tutt long, Tutt hitch, swing Turner out, put Turner as a slot for a wheel route, throw to the TE after a play action block. Frankly Haddock needs to open up the passing game early. If not, he will be opening it up late, when they are behind, possibly by a lot. And if Tutt goes down again, what next? OS will just smother Turner with coverage and C’Ville becomes very one dimensional. If the C’Ville coaches don’t loosen up, they may end up getting stuffed, like with South County early. But unlike the South County game, a comeback from a major deficit will be highly unlikely.
Sorry, just the way I am seeing it pan out. I hope I’m wrong.
The Colonial Forge game was a mudder. Not the type of game plan Smith will likely use on the UVA field. They’ve seen Centreville’s weak secondary and probably know it’s their vulnerability. I’d expect them to go 5 wide and Spread most of the time, with the occasional I-formation for select downs, with both run and pass as options in the I. I’d expect quick shots to eventually open something deep. From what I’ve seen of most of C’Ville’s secondary, they will not be able to cover man, and don’t do zone particularly well. Washington-Lee was able to pass on them, almost at will. (W-L just didn’t know how to score.) Oscar Smith is no Washington-Lee. They have several Division 1 level receivers, in Zack Jones, Jaylen Bradshaw, and Melvin Vaughn.
I’ve looked hard at C'Ville's secondary, and they, like most DBs today, pride themselves on tackles after the catch. Newsflash folks, tackles after the catch mean you just gave up 10-20 yards for a quality team. That means points in bunches. Congratulations on a tackle after you just gave up 20 yards and a first down seems pretty ridiculous, but it’s the in thing to do. (Although self-congratulations at all levels for what is a failure is common at all levels now.)
Shon Mitchell, the OS QB, is not the run of the mill NOVA QB. He has the athleticism of Stroman at Stonewall, but is very good passer. He can move, which will keep C’Ville’s LBs close to the line of scrimmage, and will help open the passing. And he is accurate. He doesn’t just lob the ball and hope for the best. He can drill it. He’s not a Div 1 QB (yet), but he is a better passer than anything C’Ville has faced. (Except possibly Appel at Washington-Lee, only in terms of passing.)
Smith’s screens in particular will be difficult for C’Ville to cope with. OS is disciplined and leaves very little to chance.
Unless the C’Ville secondary figures out how to cover in a hurry, or the C’Ville coaches rent some players who can cover tight and bottle up these receivers, this will be a long game for C’Ville. Frankly, and reluctantly, I don’t know that Haddock and crew can figure out this style of play, so I have to go with Oscar Smith, probably in a runaway. C’Ville might keep it close, but only if they match scores. Which will be difficult, as OS’ defense is very good.
Lastly, C’Ville’s passing game is pretty predictable. Tutt long, Tutt hitch, swing Turner out, put Turner as a slot for a wheel route, throw to the TE after a play action block. Frankly Haddock needs to open up the passing game early. If not, he will be opening it up late, when they are behind, possibly by a lot. And if Tutt goes down again, what next? OS will just smother Turner with coverage and C’Ville becomes very one dimensional. If the C’Ville coaches don’t loosen up, they may end up getting stuffed, like with South County early. But unlike the South County game, a comeback from a major deficit will be highly unlikely.
Sorry, just the way I am seeing it pan out. I hope I’m wrong.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: December 10, 2013 12:39AM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry. Been away for a while. Looked at a lot of
> Centreville and Oscar Smith games. To me, this
> comes down to Centreville’s pass defense.
>
> The Colonial Forge game was a mudder. Not the
> type of game plan Smith will likely use on the UVA
> field. They’ve seen Centreville’s weak
> secondary and probably know it’s their
> vulnerability. I’d expect them to go 5 wide and
> Spread most of the time, with the occasional
> I-formation for select downs, with both run and
> pass as options in the I. I’d expect quick
> shots to eventually open something deep. From
> what I’ve seen of most of C’Ville’s
> secondary, they will not be able to cover man, and
> don’t do zone particularly well. Washington-Lee
> was able to pass on them, almost at will. (W-L
> just didn’t know how to score.) Oscar Smith is
> no Washington-Lee. They have several Division 1
> level receivers, in Zack Jones, Jaylen Bradshaw,
> and Melvin Vaughn.
>
> I’ve looked hard at C'Ville's secondary, and
> they, like most DBs today, pride themselves on
> tackles after the catch. Newsflash folks, tackles
> after the catch mean you just gave up 10-20 yards
> for a quality team. That means points in bunches.
> Congratulations on a tackle after you just gave
> up 20 yards and a first down seems pretty
> ridiculous, but it’s the in thing to do.
> (Although self-congratulations at all levels for
> what is a failure is common at all levels now.)
>
> Shon Mitchell, the OS QB, is not the run of the
> mill NOVA QB. He has the athleticism of Stroman
> at Stonewall, but is very good passer. He can
> move, which will keep C’Ville’s LBs close to
> the line of scrimmage, and will help open the
> passing. And he is accurate. He doesn’t just
> lob the ball and hope for the best. He can drill
> it. He’s not a Div 1 QB (yet), but he is a
> better passer than anything C’Ville has faced.
> (Except possibly Appel at Washington-Lee, only in
> terms of passing.)
>
> Smith’s screens in particular will be difficult
> for C’Ville to cope with. OS is disciplined and
> leaves very little to chance.
>
> Unless the C’Ville secondary figures out how to
> cover in a hurry, or the C’Ville coaches rent
> some players who can cover tight and bottle up
> these receivers, this will be a long game for
> C’Ville. Frankly, and reluctantly, I don’t
> know that Haddock and crew can figure out this
> style of play, so I have to go with Oscar Smith,
> probably in a runaway. C’Ville might keep it
> close, but only if they match scores. Which will
> be difficult, as OS’ defense is very good.
>
> Lastly, C’Ville’s passing game is pretty
> predictable. Tutt long, Tutt hitch, swing Turner
> out, put Turner as a slot for a wheel route, throw
> to the TE after a play action block. Frankly
> Haddock needs to open up the passing game early.
> If not, he will be opening it up late, when they
> are behind, possibly by a lot. And if Tutt goes
> down again, what next? OS will just smother
> Turner with coverage and C’Ville becomes very
> one dimensional. If the C’Ville coaches don’t
> loosen up, they may end up getting stuffed, like
> with South County early. But unlike the South
> County game, a comeback from a major deficit will
> be highly unlikely.
>
> Sorry, just the way I am seeing it pan out. I
> hope I’m wrong.
-----------------
Smith tests your LBs--short passes that make you play chase. Then they show you run and go deep to #4. IMHO, this Smith team is not as good as its 2011 team except on the DL. Yet CV is strong, has a marquee back and has beaten everybody it faced by a wide margin. If you're a Wildcat, you walk out on that field ready because you are battle-tested and don't quit after giving up a big play. You also pressure the QB and position your LBs to cutoff those short passes. Looking forward to seeing both teams do their thing.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry. Been away for a while. Looked at a lot of
> Centreville and Oscar Smith games. To me, this
> comes down to Centreville’s pass defense.
>
> The Colonial Forge game was a mudder. Not the
> type of game plan Smith will likely use on the UVA
> field. They’ve seen Centreville’s weak
> secondary and probably know it’s their
> vulnerability. I’d expect them to go 5 wide and
> Spread most of the time, with the occasional
> I-formation for select downs, with both run and
> pass as options in the I. I’d expect quick
> shots to eventually open something deep. From
> what I’ve seen of most of C’Ville’s
> secondary, they will not be able to cover man, and
> don’t do zone particularly well. Washington-Lee
> was able to pass on them, almost at will. (W-L
> just didn’t know how to score.) Oscar Smith is
> no Washington-Lee. They have several Division 1
> level receivers, in Zack Jones, Jaylen Bradshaw,
> and Melvin Vaughn.
>
> I’ve looked hard at C'Ville's secondary, and
> they, like most DBs today, pride themselves on
> tackles after the catch. Newsflash folks, tackles
> after the catch mean you just gave up 10-20 yards
> for a quality team. That means points in bunches.
> Congratulations on a tackle after you just gave
> up 20 yards and a first down seems pretty
> ridiculous, but it’s the in thing to do.
> (Although self-congratulations at all levels for
> what is a failure is common at all levels now.)
>
> Shon Mitchell, the OS QB, is not the run of the
> mill NOVA QB. He has the athleticism of Stroman
> at Stonewall, but is very good passer. He can
> move, which will keep C’Ville’s LBs close to
> the line of scrimmage, and will help open the
> passing. And he is accurate. He doesn’t just
> lob the ball and hope for the best. He can drill
> it. He’s not a Div 1 QB (yet), but he is a
> better passer than anything C’Ville has faced.
> (Except possibly Appel at Washington-Lee, only in
> terms of passing.)
>
> Smith’s screens in particular will be difficult
> for C’Ville to cope with. OS is disciplined and
> leaves very little to chance.
>
> Unless the C’Ville secondary figures out how to
> cover in a hurry, or the C’Ville coaches rent
> some players who can cover tight and bottle up
> these receivers, this will be a long game for
> C’Ville. Frankly, and reluctantly, I don’t
> know that Haddock and crew can figure out this
> style of play, so I have to go with Oscar Smith,
> probably in a runaway. C’Ville might keep it
> close, but only if they match scores. Which will
> be difficult, as OS’ defense is very good.
>
> Lastly, C’Ville’s passing game is pretty
> predictable. Tutt long, Tutt hitch, swing Turner
> out, put Turner as a slot for a wheel route, throw
> to the TE after a play action block. Frankly
> Haddock needs to open up the passing game early.
> If not, he will be opening it up late, when they
> are behind, possibly by a lot. And if Tutt goes
> down again, what next? OS will just smother
> Turner with coverage and C’Ville becomes very
> one dimensional. If the C’Ville coaches don’t
> loosen up, they may end up getting stuffed, like
> with South County early. But unlike the South
> County game, a comeback from a major deficit will
> be highly unlikely.
>
> Sorry, just the way I am seeing it pan out. I
> hope I’m wrong.
-----------------
Smith tests your LBs--short passes that make you play chase. Then they show you run and go deep to #4. IMHO, this Smith team is not as good as its 2011 team except on the DL. Yet CV is strong, has a marquee back and has beaten everybody it faced by a wide margin. If you're a Wildcat, you walk out on that field ready because you are battle-tested and don't quit after giving up a big play. You also pressure the QB and position your LBs to cutoff those short passes. Looking forward to seeing both teams do their thing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nova Fan
()
Date: December 10, 2013 07:06AM
I just hope #2 passes his concussion test!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CV Fan
()
Date: December 10, 2013 08:43AM
Nova Fan - Are you referring to Tutt #2? I have not heard anything about a concussion. Please provide details.
Viking - Good analysis. I have been worried about CV's secondary most of the year but no team have been able to take advantage enough to win. Westfield should have during the 2nd half without Tutt. Not concerned about CV speed but size is an issue.
Expecting a good game this Saturday at UVA.
Question - is the field at UVA turf or grass? If grass, with rain in the forecast and the 5A game prior to CV/OS game, field conditions may not be ideal.
Viking - Good analysis. I have been worried about CV's secondary most of the year but no team have been able to take advantage enough to win. Westfield should have during the 2nd half without Tutt. Not concerned about CV speed but size is an issue.
Expecting a good game this Saturday at UVA.
Question - is the field at UVA turf or grass? If grass, with rain in the forecast and the 5A game prior to CV/OS game, field conditions may not be ideal.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 10, 2013 09:24AM
CV Fan Wrote:
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> Question - is the field at UVA turf or grass? If
> grass, with rain in the forecast and the 5A game
> prior to CV/OS game, field conditions may not be
> ideal.
Scott Stadium is a grass field. With rain/sleet/snow a possibility and playing on a grass field right after another game, is that advantage C'ville or OS? While passing would still be a possibility, in those conditions it would seem the game could become one dimensional.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Question - is the field at UVA turf or grass? If
> grass, with rain in the forecast and the 5A game
> prior to CV/OS game, field conditions may not be
> ideal.
Scott Stadium is a grass field. With rain/sleet/snow a possibility and playing on a grass field right after another game, is that advantage C'ville or OS? While passing would still be a possibility, in those conditions it would seem the game could become one dimensional.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Advantage Cville
()
Date: December 10, 2013 09:30AM
Muddy field favors CVille. Takes some of the uber speed and deep routes away from Oscar Smith. Of course Smith's line is stout but I believe CVille will be able to run some against them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
what what whatz
()
Date: December 10, 2013 10:56AM
I love you, you love me, let's go kissing in a mulberry tree.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
whatz what what
()
Date: December 10, 2013 11:00AM
I love me, you love you, let's just touch ourselves and never ever scrue.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hey butthead
()
Date: December 10, 2013 11:05AM
This is a high school football site
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CV Fan
()
Date: December 10, 2013 11:24AM
OS/CF game was a mud game. CF coach was not expecting those conditions. See quote from CF Coach after state semi game......
-----"Colonial Forge coach Bill Brown was upset about the outcome but also the field conditions.
"I didn't know the field was going to be wet," Brown said. "I was told there was going to be a tarp over it or we were going to move it to a turf field.... I'm very unhappy about that because we were told something very different."
But even he admitted the Tigers were unstoppable on this day.
"They didn't make it rain but they sure had a good game plan," he said. "They are a good football team."------
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/12/football-oscar-smith-reaches-state-title-game
Still OS ran for over 200 yards on the same field.
-----"Colonial Forge coach Bill Brown was upset about the outcome but also the field conditions.
"I didn't know the field was going to be wet," Brown said. "I was told there was going to be a tarp over it or we were going to move it to a turf field.... I'm very unhappy about that because we were told something very different."
But even he admitted the Tigers were unstoppable on this day.
"They didn't make it rain but they sure had a good game plan," he said. "They are a good football team."------
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/12/football-oscar-smith-reaches-state-title-game
Still OS ran for over 200 yards on the same field.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: December 10, 2013 12:11PM
Nova Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I just hope #2 passes his concussion test!
Viking - Good analysis. I have been worried about CV's secondary most of the year but no team have been able to take advantage enough to win. Westfield should have during the 2nd half without Tutt. Not concerned about CV speed but size is an issue.
Expecting a good game this Saturday at UVA.
Question - is the field at UVA turf or grass? If grass, with rain in the forecast and the 5A game prior to CV/OS game, field conditions may not be ideal.
NOVA
-----------------------------
NOVA,
I’m less concerned about size than basic coverage. Most college and pro DBs are smaller, often much smaller than the receivers they cover. The key is coverage instincts, and I don’t think many of the C’Ville DBs have those instincts. They don’t anticipate well, and tend to go with the fake or are so loose on the coverage, they give up the short pass, and sometimes are too far off to make a good tackle. Most of them, but not all, have the speed. They just don’t read the QB and the situation and judge the type of route the receiver will have to or may run. Several look more like LBs than DBs. They also tend to misjudge the ball, so that even when they do cover well, they don’t block the pass from the receiver.
The secondary has given up a lot of passes to average QBs and receivers. The Oscar Smith game will feature receivers who can turn what would be a 5-9 yard gain by an average receiver into a 20+ gain or a TD. If I were C’Ville, I’d prefer to have faced Lake Braddock as a test before going against OS. That would have helped determined who to put on what type of coverage. Probably would have shaken out the system to ID how to defend against OS.
When I composed my earlier note I wasn’t paying attention to the changing forecast. I thought it was still going to clear out later in the week. Regarding the field, I’d expect UVA will have kept the field covered, so not sure it will be the mud field OS trapped Colonial Forge with, but it won’t be the pristine stuff C’Ville is used to with their turf field. Not sure who the field will favor, since C’Ville really hasn’t played on a bad field and OS probably prefers a good field for it’s passing attack.
Advantage Cville,
Per the above, good receivers can use a poor field to their advantage, so I think the field may be a wash. Generally I’d agree that a muddy field favors a ground attack, however, C’Ville doesn’t have any really muddy field experience of late.
Concur about OS D-Line. They will be the best C’Ville has faced, however, I don’t believe OS has faced an O-line and RBs like C’Ville’s. Plus Walter adds a significant dimension. He is tough to bring down, mobile, fast and accurate (generally) with his throws. Facing 3-4 excellent running options each down will be challenging for OS, however, I think they will focus their efforts on the run, and that could be a problem, if C’Ville doesn’t open up the passing game. Per my note, they need to pass to open up the run. If the OS secondary can focus on the run and just cover Tutt, then C’Ville will have to come up with multiple good, long drives. They can do that, but a couple missed third downs, and you are potentially down 2-3 TDs. And then you have to pass to make it up. They did it before against South County, but once the OS secondary focuses on the pass, they are pretty good.
SECEAST,
Concur that pressure will help, but C'Ville will have to use at least one LB to mirror the QB, given his outstanding running abilities. That puts the onus back on the secondary for coverage, which is, to me, their major weakness.
I think C’Ville probably has the best LBs in the state, so I think they will do well against OS. The D-Line is very good, but the OS O-Line is outstanding, and very well disciplined. While McClease did a very good job against Colonial Forge, I don’t think that will work as well against C’Ville, which generally is very good against the run (the South County game being a significant exception).
Special teams, I think, goes to C’Ville, however, kickoffs remain a little to exciting. Coverage is only adequate. Typical focus on converging on the runner and not enough discipline to stay in their lanes as they converge. The pooch kick is good against an average 2nd and 3rd line, but against OS, it could be a problem, given they tend to put Div 1 level receivers in those lines. They are capable of running it back. Coverage has to be tight. The good thing is that OS is very inexperienced at returning kick-offs. Unfortunately that’s because they usually only have one kick-off return per game.
OS does put a lot of pressure on the punter, and that is something C’Ville hasn’t seen, so that could get interesting. I’ve watched C’Ville’s punt blocking and it is ‘unique,’ to say the least. More like punt obstruction than blocking. Not sure that will work with the type of up the gut pressure OS brings.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I just hope #2 passes his concussion test!
Viking - Good analysis. I have been worried about CV's secondary most of the year but no team have been able to take advantage enough to win. Westfield should have during the 2nd half without Tutt. Not concerned about CV speed but size is an issue.
Expecting a good game this Saturday at UVA.
Question - is the field at UVA turf or grass? If grass, with rain in the forecast and the 5A game prior to CV/OS game, field conditions may not be ideal.
NOVA
-----------------------------
NOVA,
I’m less concerned about size than basic coverage. Most college and pro DBs are smaller, often much smaller than the receivers they cover. The key is coverage instincts, and I don’t think many of the C’Ville DBs have those instincts. They don’t anticipate well, and tend to go with the fake or are so loose on the coverage, they give up the short pass, and sometimes are too far off to make a good tackle. Most of them, but not all, have the speed. They just don’t read the QB and the situation and judge the type of route the receiver will have to or may run. Several look more like LBs than DBs. They also tend to misjudge the ball, so that even when they do cover well, they don’t block the pass from the receiver.
The secondary has given up a lot of passes to average QBs and receivers. The Oscar Smith game will feature receivers who can turn what would be a 5-9 yard gain by an average receiver into a 20+ gain or a TD. If I were C’Ville, I’d prefer to have faced Lake Braddock as a test before going against OS. That would have helped determined who to put on what type of coverage. Probably would have shaken out the system to ID how to defend against OS.
When I composed my earlier note I wasn’t paying attention to the changing forecast. I thought it was still going to clear out later in the week. Regarding the field, I’d expect UVA will have kept the field covered, so not sure it will be the mud field OS trapped Colonial Forge with, but it won’t be the pristine stuff C’Ville is used to with their turf field. Not sure who the field will favor, since C’Ville really hasn’t played on a bad field and OS probably prefers a good field for it’s passing attack.
Advantage Cville,
Per the above, good receivers can use a poor field to their advantage, so I think the field may be a wash. Generally I’d agree that a muddy field favors a ground attack, however, C’Ville doesn’t have any really muddy field experience of late.
Concur about OS D-Line. They will be the best C’Ville has faced, however, I don’t believe OS has faced an O-line and RBs like C’Ville’s. Plus Walter adds a significant dimension. He is tough to bring down, mobile, fast and accurate (generally) with his throws. Facing 3-4 excellent running options each down will be challenging for OS, however, I think they will focus their efforts on the run, and that could be a problem, if C’Ville doesn’t open up the passing game. Per my note, they need to pass to open up the run. If the OS secondary can focus on the run and just cover Tutt, then C’Ville will have to come up with multiple good, long drives. They can do that, but a couple missed third downs, and you are potentially down 2-3 TDs. And then you have to pass to make it up. They did it before against South County, but once the OS secondary focuses on the pass, they are pretty good.
SECEAST,
Concur that pressure will help, but C'Ville will have to use at least one LB to mirror the QB, given his outstanding running abilities. That puts the onus back on the secondary for coverage, which is, to me, their major weakness.
I think C’Ville probably has the best LBs in the state, so I think they will do well against OS. The D-Line is very good, but the OS O-Line is outstanding, and very well disciplined. While McClease did a very good job against Colonial Forge, I don’t think that will work as well against C’Ville, which generally is very good against the run (the South County game being a significant exception).
Special teams, I think, goes to C’Ville, however, kickoffs remain a little to exciting. Coverage is only adequate. Typical focus on converging on the runner and not enough discipline to stay in their lanes as they converge. The pooch kick is good against an average 2nd and 3rd line, but against OS, it could be a problem, given they tend to put Div 1 level receivers in those lines. They are capable of running it back. Coverage has to be tight. The good thing is that OS is very inexperienced at returning kick-offs. Unfortunately that’s because they usually only have one kick-off return per game.
OS does put a lot of pressure on the punter, and that is something C’Ville hasn’t seen, so that could get interesting. I’ve watched C’Ville’s punt blocking and it is ‘unique,’ to say the least. More like punt obstruction than blocking. Not sure that will work with the type of up the gut pressure OS brings.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: December 10, 2013 12:35PM
CV Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OS/CF game was a mud game. CF coach was not
> expecting those conditions. See quote from CF
> Coach after state semi game......
>
> -----"Colonial Forge coach Bill Brown was upset
> about the outcome but also the field conditions.
>
> "I didn't know the field was going to be wet,"
> Brown said. "I was told there was going to be a
> tarp over it or we were going to move it to a turf
> field.... I'm very unhappy about that because we
> were told something very different."
>
> But even he admitted the Tigers were unstoppable
> on this day.
>
> "They didn't make it rain but they sure had a good
> game plan," he said. "They are a good football
> team."------
>
> http://hamptonroads.com/2013/12/football-oscar-smi
> th-reaches-state-title-game
>
> Still OS ran for over 200 yards on the same field.
-----------------------------
CV Fan,
I saw the article and believe that it was underhanded by OS to misinform Colonial Forge about the field. Pretty low. It’s one thing to trick a team on the field, but it’s something entirely different if you trick them about the field. Unfortunately that is what I tend to expect from the beach, which is why I am a NOVA football fan.
This came from a beach newspaper, so I think their interpretation of the Colonial Forge coach’s comments tended to make the best of the situation. From what I saw, this was OS’ worst game. They did look stoppable. Actually they looked very beatable - in this game. However, looking over their season, this appears to be an aberration. Somewhat like the South County game was for C’Ville.
SECEAST,
Forgot to concur with you that this OS team is probably not as strong as the 2011 team.
-------------------------------------------------------
> OS/CF game was a mud game. CF coach was not
> expecting those conditions. See quote from CF
> Coach after state semi game......
>
> -----"Colonial Forge coach Bill Brown was upset
> about the outcome but also the field conditions.
>
> "I didn't know the field was going to be wet,"
> Brown said. "I was told there was going to be a
> tarp over it or we were going to move it to a turf
> field.... I'm very unhappy about that because we
> were told something very different."
>
> But even he admitted the Tigers were unstoppable
> on this day.
>
> "They didn't make it rain but they sure had a good
> game plan," he said. "They are a good football
> team."------
>
> http://hamptonroads.com/2013/12/football-oscar-smi
> th-reaches-state-title-game
>
> Still OS ran for over 200 yards on the same field.
-----------------------------
CV Fan,
I saw the article and believe that it was underhanded by OS to misinform Colonial Forge about the field. Pretty low. It’s one thing to trick a team on the field, but it’s something entirely different if you trick them about the field. Unfortunately that is what I tend to expect from the beach, which is why I am a NOVA football fan.
This came from a beach newspaper, so I think their interpretation of the Colonial Forge coach’s comments tended to make the best of the situation. From what I saw, this was OS’ worst game. They did look stoppable. Actually they looked very beatable - in this game. However, looking over their season, this appears to be an aberration. Somewhat like the South County game was for C’Ville.
SECEAST,
Forgot to concur with you that this OS team is probably not as strong as the 2011 team.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I detest the 757
()
Date: December 10, 2013 01:53PM
I HATE 757 FANS. I HOPE OSCAR SMITH LOSES JUST TO SHUT THEM UP FOR A WEEK OR TWO. I HOPE CENTREVILLE KICKS SOME ASS!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fannage
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:00PM
I agree about the 757, bunch of assholes.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fannage
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:01PM
and by the way the 757 teams like Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes cheat with very lax transfer rules. Just look at their best player, he should be playing at another school down there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:20PM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> CV Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OS/CF game was a mud game. CF coach was not
> > expecting those conditions. See quote from CF
> > Coach after state semi game......
> >
> > -----"Colonial Forge coach Bill Brown was upset
> > about the outcome but also the field
> conditions.
> >
> > "I didn't know the field was going to be wet,"
> > Brown said. "I was told there was going to be a
> > tarp over it or we were going to move it to a
> turf
> > field.... I'm very unhappy about that because
> we
> > were told something very different."
> >
> > But even he admitted the Tigers were
> unstoppable
> > on this day.
> >
> > "They didn't make it rain but they sure had a
> good
> > game plan," he said. "They are a good football
> > team."------
> >
> >
> http://hamptonroads.com/2013/12/football-oscar-smi
>
> > th-reaches-state-title-game
> >
> > Still OS ran for over 200 yards on the same
> field.
>
> -----------------------------
>
> CV Fan,
>
> I saw the article and believe that it was
> underhanded by OS to misinform Colonial Forge
> about the field. Pretty low. It’s one thing to
> trick a team on the field, but it’s something
> entirely different if you trick them about the
> field. Unfortunately that is what I tend to
> expect from the beach, which is why I am a NOVA
> football fan.
>
> This came from a beach newspaper, so I think their
> interpretation of the Colonial Forge coach’s
> comments tended to make the best of the situation.
> From what I saw, this was OS’ worst game. They
> did look stoppable. Actually they looked very
> beatable - in this game. However, looking over
> their season, this appears to be an aberration.
> Somewhat like the South County game was for
> C’Ville.
>
> SECEAST,
>
> Forgot to concur with you that this OS team is
> probably not as strong as the 2011 team.
------------
You are SO right.
This O Smith team is not nearly as good as its 2011 team.
The DL is strong but virtually everywhere else it's weaker.
I don't see its QB having a great game at UVA, not at all.
-------------------------------------------------------
> CV Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OS/CF game was a mud game. CF coach was not
> > expecting those conditions. See quote from CF
> > Coach after state semi game......
> >
> > -----"Colonial Forge coach Bill Brown was upset
> > about the outcome but also the field
> conditions.
> >
> > "I didn't know the field was going to be wet,"
> > Brown said. "I was told there was going to be a
> > tarp over it or we were going to move it to a
> turf
> > field.... I'm very unhappy about that because
> we
> > were told something very different."
> >
> > But even he admitted the Tigers were
> unstoppable
> > on this day.
> >
> > "They didn't make it rain but they sure had a
> good
> > game plan," he said. "They are a good football
> > team."------
> >
> >
> http://hamptonroads.com/2013/12/football-oscar-smi
>
> > th-reaches-state-title-game
> >
> > Still OS ran for over 200 yards on the same
> field.
>
> -----------------------------
>
> CV Fan,
>
> I saw the article and believe that it was
> underhanded by OS to misinform Colonial Forge
> about the field. Pretty low. It’s one thing to
> trick a team on the field, but it’s something
> entirely different if you trick them about the
> field. Unfortunately that is what I tend to
> expect from the beach, which is why I am a NOVA
> football fan.
>
> This came from a beach newspaper, so I think their
> interpretation of the Colonial Forge coach’s
> comments tended to make the best of the situation.
> From what I saw, this was OS’ worst game. They
> did look stoppable. Actually they looked very
> beatable - in this game. However, looking over
> their season, this appears to be an aberration.
> Somewhat like the South County game was for
> C’Ville.
>
> SECEAST,
>
> Forgot to concur with you that this OS team is
> probably not as strong as the 2011 team.
------------
You are SO right.
This O Smith team is not nearly as good as its 2011 team.
The DL is strong but virtually everywhere else it's weaker.
I don't see its QB having a great game at UVA, not at all.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
ya man 23
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:20PM
I agree, beach fans are bunch of pussies and cheaters
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cheat and the Lord shall collect
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:23PM
Payment will be coming due the Lord hath say for all previous transgressions by the Beach teams, Oscar Smith being the worst among them.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Beach teams
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:41PM
I knew they had been cheating all these years, thanks for the confirmation.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Scrue da Beach
()
Date: December 10, 2013 02:55PM
Hope CVille beats Oscar Smith in a big way.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cheaters are bad
()
Date: December 10, 2013 03:21PM
I agree. For Ocean Lakes the cheating came around to bite them, will do the same for Oscar Smith. The lord is indeed all knowing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 10, 2013 03:32PM
Glad to see we're accusing yet another team of cheating w/o backing up our claims:
1. For 10 years, SB was "cheating" and also was "too scared" to play in Concorde. Then the facts got in the way: NO illegals, 2-1 record vs. W'field, etc.
2. Then in 2011, a good CV team loses to OSmith. People claim Smith is "cheating" but then the facts got in the way again. No wrongdoing.
3. Then Henderson transfers from WestPo. Look at old posts on here claiming LB cheated. They were all wrong.
Now, a beach team is "cheating" again. Coming from a program that has heard these rumors for 10+ years, I'm still waiting for the backup. So is VHSL. If the cheating is so rampant, then back it up; it's that simple. Report the cheaters.
If you can't put up, then show some respect for your opponent. We played beach teams most years during our run and our fans talked smack just like theirs.
1. For 10 years, SB was "cheating" and also was "too scared" to play in Concorde. Then the facts got in the way: NO illegals, 2-1 record vs. W'field, etc.
2. Then in 2011, a good CV team loses to OSmith. People claim Smith is "cheating" but then the facts got in the way again. No wrongdoing.
3. Then Henderson transfers from WestPo. Look at old posts on here claiming LB cheated. They were all wrong.
Now, a beach team is "cheating" again. Coming from a program that has heard these rumors for 10+ years, I'm still waiting for the backup. So is VHSL. If the cheating is so rampant, then back it up; it's that simple. Report the cheaters.
If you can't put up, then show some respect for your opponent. We played beach teams most years during our run and our fans talked smack just like theirs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 10, 2013 03:39PM
By all means, please give detailed examples of this so-called "cheating" so that I can report this to the state governing body, otherwise just stick to the games at hand and keep the foolish ignorance to yourself.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Coach Fairfax
()
Date: December 10, 2013 03:51PM
Viking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry. Been away for a while. Looked at a lot of
> Centreville and Oscar Smith games. To me, this
> comes down to Centreville’s pass defense.
>
> The Colonial Forge game was a mudder. Not the
> type of game plan Smith will likely use on the UVA
> field. They’ve seen Centreville’s weak
> secondary and probably know it’s their
> vulnerability. I’d expect them to go 5 wide and
> Spread most of the time, with the occasional
> I-formation for select downs, with both run and
> pass as options in the I. I’d expect quick
> shots to eventually open something deep. From
> what I’ve seen of most of C’Ville’s
> secondary, they will not be able to cover man, and
> don’t do zone particularly well. Washington-Lee
> was able to pass on them, almost at will. (W-L
> just didn’t know how to score.) Oscar Smith is
> no Washington-Lee. They have several Division 1
> level receivers, in Zack Jones, Jaylen Bradshaw,
> and Melvin Vaughn.
>
> I’ve looked hard at C'Ville's secondary, and
> they, like most DBs today, pride themselves on
> tackles after the catch. Newsflash folks, tackles
> after the catch mean you just gave up 10-20 yards
> for a quality team. That means points in bunches.
> Congratulations on a tackle after you just gave
> up 20 yards and a first down seems pretty
> ridiculous, but it’s the in thing to do.
> (Although self-congratulations at all levels for
> what is a failure is common at all levels now.)
>
> Shon Mitchell, the OS QB, is not the run of the
> mill NOVA QB. He has the athleticism of Stroman
> at Stonewall, but is very good passer. He can
> move, which will keep C’Ville’s LBs close to
> the line of scrimmage, and will help open the
> passing. And he is accurate. He doesn’t just
> lob the ball and hope for the best. He can drill
> it. He’s not a Div 1 QB (yet), but he is a
> better passer than anything C’Ville has faced.
> (Except possibly Appel at Washington-Lee, only in
> terms of passing.)
>
> Smith’s screens in particular will be difficult
> for C’Ville to cope with. OS is disciplined and
> leaves very little to chance.
>
> Unless the C’Ville secondary figures out how to
> cover in a hurry, or the C’Ville coaches rent
> some players who can cover tight and bottle up
> these receivers, this will be a long game for
> C’Ville. Frankly, and reluctantly, I don’t
> know that Haddock and crew can figure out this
> style of play, so I have to go with Oscar Smith,
> probably in a runaway. C’Ville might keep it
> close, but only if they match scores. Which will
> be difficult, as OS’ defense is very good.
>
> Lastly, C’Ville’s passing game is pretty
> predictable. Tutt long, Tutt hitch, swing Turner
> out, put Turner as a slot for a wheel route, throw
> to the TE after a play action block. Frankly
> Haddock needs to open up the passing game early.
> If not, he will be opening it up late, when they
> are behind, possibly by a lot. And if Tutt goes
> down again, what next? OS will just smother
> Turner with coverage and C’Ville becomes very
> one dimensional. If the C’Ville coaches don’t
> loosen up, they may end up getting stuffed, like
> with South County early. But unlike the South
> County game, a comeback from a major deficit will
> be highly unlikely.
>
> Sorry, just the way I am seeing it pan out. I
> hope I’m wrong.
Not that I disagree to much with your analysis, but you are listing players who have already moved on. Vaughn and Jones are gone, Bradshaw is a senior. Centreville with athletes like Turner, Tutt, Heiner, Behne, Jennings, Boose (that's right), Ridenour, even, dare I say it Walter, should be able to play decent coverage and allow Wiggins, Wright, Brooks, Love, Brooks, Samuel to attack the Smith QB Mitchell (who I gotta say is not even close to as athletic as Stroman) It will be a chess match as to when to all out blitz and when to send certain players. If you all out blitz Smith, they will screen (from both Running Back and Wide Out) just behind you and let their athletes make plays in a broken field.
Centreville needs to control the ball and pass on non traditional passing downs to allow our guys room to operate. Walter is very accurate and can hurt Smith if allowed to pass when Smith cannot double cover Tutt, Turner and Heiner. They need to hit TE Liddle in the seam to back off the LB's and hit Boose out of the backfield. All this is of course is predicated on Walter being protected by his OL. If the OL can pass protect they will find the run blocking that much easier, as Smith cannot pin their ears back and come after Walter on 3rd and long.
I see a very good game Saturday where if Centreville executes their offense and keeps Smith in front of them on D, every opportunity to win.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry. Been away for a while. Looked at a lot of
> Centreville and Oscar Smith games. To me, this
> comes down to Centreville’s pass defense.
>
> The Colonial Forge game was a mudder. Not the
> type of game plan Smith will likely use on the UVA
> field. They’ve seen Centreville’s weak
> secondary and probably know it’s their
> vulnerability. I’d expect them to go 5 wide and
> Spread most of the time, with the occasional
> I-formation for select downs, with both run and
> pass as options in the I. I’d expect quick
> shots to eventually open something deep. From
> what I’ve seen of most of C’Ville’s
> secondary, they will not be able to cover man, and
> don’t do zone particularly well. Washington-Lee
> was able to pass on them, almost at will. (W-L
> just didn’t know how to score.) Oscar Smith is
> no Washington-Lee. They have several Division 1
> level receivers, in Zack Jones, Jaylen Bradshaw,
> and Melvin Vaughn.
>
> I’ve looked hard at C'Ville's secondary, and
> they, like most DBs today, pride themselves on
> tackles after the catch. Newsflash folks, tackles
> after the catch mean you just gave up 10-20 yards
> for a quality team. That means points in bunches.
> Congratulations on a tackle after you just gave
> up 20 yards and a first down seems pretty
> ridiculous, but it’s the in thing to do.
> (Although self-congratulations at all levels for
> what is a failure is common at all levels now.)
>
> Shon Mitchell, the OS QB, is not the run of the
> mill NOVA QB. He has the athleticism of Stroman
> at Stonewall, but is very good passer. He can
> move, which will keep C’Ville’s LBs close to
> the line of scrimmage, and will help open the
> passing. And he is accurate. He doesn’t just
> lob the ball and hope for the best. He can drill
> it. He’s not a Div 1 QB (yet), but he is a
> better passer than anything C’Ville has faced.
> (Except possibly Appel at Washington-Lee, only in
> terms of passing.)
>
> Smith’s screens in particular will be difficult
> for C’Ville to cope with. OS is disciplined and
> leaves very little to chance.
>
> Unless the C’Ville secondary figures out how to
> cover in a hurry, or the C’Ville coaches rent
> some players who can cover tight and bottle up
> these receivers, this will be a long game for
> C’Ville. Frankly, and reluctantly, I don’t
> know that Haddock and crew can figure out this
> style of play, so I have to go with Oscar Smith,
> probably in a runaway. C’Ville might keep it
> close, but only if they match scores. Which will
> be difficult, as OS’ defense is very good.
>
> Lastly, C’Ville’s passing game is pretty
> predictable. Tutt long, Tutt hitch, swing Turner
> out, put Turner as a slot for a wheel route, throw
> to the TE after a play action block. Frankly
> Haddock needs to open up the passing game early.
> If not, he will be opening it up late, when they
> are behind, possibly by a lot. And if Tutt goes
> down again, what next? OS will just smother
> Turner with coverage and C’Ville becomes very
> one dimensional. If the C’Ville coaches don’t
> loosen up, they may end up getting stuffed, like
> with South County early. But unlike the South
> County game, a comeback from a major deficit will
> be highly unlikely.
>
> Sorry, just the way I am seeing it pan out. I
> hope I’m wrong.
Not that I disagree to much with your analysis, but you are listing players who have already moved on. Vaughn and Jones are gone, Bradshaw is a senior. Centreville with athletes like Turner, Tutt, Heiner, Behne, Jennings, Boose (that's right), Ridenour, even, dare I say it Walter, should be able to play decent coverage and allow Wiggins, Wright, Brooks, Love, Brooks, Samuel to attack the Smith QB Mitchell (who I gotta say is not even close to as athletic as Stroman) It will be a chess match as to when to all out blitz and when to send certain players. If you all out blitz Smith, they will screen (from both Running Back and Wide Out) just behind you and let their athletes make plays in a broken field.
Centreville needs to control the ball and pass on non traditional passing downs to allow our guys room to operate. Walter is very accurate and can hurt Smith if allowed to pass when Smith cannot double cover Tutt, Turner and Heiner. They need to hit TE Liddle in the seam to back off the LB's and hit Boose out of the backfield. All this is of course is predicated on Walter being protected by his OL. If the OL can pass protect they will find the run blocking that much easier, as Smith cannot pin their ears back and come after Walter on 3rd and long.
I see a very good game Saturday where if Centreville executes their offense and keeps Smith in front of them on D, every opportunity to win.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
concorde longtime
()
Date: December 10, 2013 04:03PM
Do we have spreads yet for the 5A/6A games? I'd love to see them.
I can't comment on the lax transfer rules with the Beach schools. But I can say this: those schools get zero respect academically from college football programs. The son of a family friend is being recruited by Div I FCS schools for football (he is a Concorde kid), and it is clear that the college recruiters respect the NOVA schools immensely - for preparing coachable players that will be able to succeed athletically (and academically) at the next level. At the end of the day, that is what matters - given how few players ever make it to the NFL. Who cares if a kid can run a 4.4, if he can't break 800 on his math/verbal SATs, or can't even get a 2.5 in high school? The NOVA schools prepare the kids for life after football; not sure what the Beach schools prepare kids for.
I can't comment on the lax transfer rules with the Beach schools. But I can say this: those schools get zero respect academically from college football programs. The son of a family friend is being recruited by Div I FCS schools for football (he is a Concorde kid), and it is clear that the college recruiters respect the NOVA schools immensely - for preparing coachable players that will be able to succeed athletically (and academically) at the next level. At the end of the day, that is what matters - given how few players ever make it to the NFL. Who cares if a kid can run a 4.4, if he can't break 800 on his math/verbal SATs, or can't even get a 2.5 in high school? The NOVA schools prepare the kids for life after football; not sure what the Beach schools prepare kids for.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Homer Football
()
Date: December 10, 2013 04:07PM
OneSBFan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Glad to see we're accusing yet another team of
> cheating w/o backing up our claims:
>
> 1. For 10 years, SB was "cheating" and also was
> "too scared" to play in Concorde. Then the facts
> got in the way: NO illegals, 2-1 record vs.
> W'field, etc.
>
> 2. Then in 2011, a good CV team loses to OSmith.
> People claim Smith is "cheating" but then the
> facts got in the way again. No wrongdoing.
>
> 3. Then Henderson transfers from WestPo. Look at
> old posts on here claiming LB cheated. They were
> all wrong.
>
> Now, a beach team is "cheating" again. Coming from
> a program that has heard these rumors for 10+
> years, I'm still waiting for the backup. So is
> VHSL. If the cheating is so rampant, then back it
> up; it's that simple. Report the cheaters.
>
> If you can't put up, then show some respect for
> your opponent. We played beach teams most years
> during our run and our fans talked smack just like
> theirs.
Don't know about SB cheating but I do know they are afraid to play in the Concorde. I was there when it was offered up to them and they wanted nothing to do with it. They begged for the Liberty District and we all know why. So they could win their district every year and cherry pick a Concorde school to play early once a year. SB should have played in the Concorde, for Christ's sake Potomac Falls played in it when it first opened up. SB record has a huge asterisk with every knowledgeable high school football fan.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Glad to see we're accusing yet another team of
> cheating w/o backing up our claims:
>
> 1. For 10 years, SB was "cheating" and also was
> "too scared" to play in Concorde. Then the facts
> got in the way: NO illegals, 2-1 record vs.
> W'field, etc.
>
> 2. Then in 2011, a good CV team loses to OSmith.
> People claim Smith is "cheating" but then the
> facts got in the way again. No wrongdoing.
>
> 3. Then Henderson transfers from WestPo. Look at
> old posts on here claiming LB cheated. They were
> all wrong.
>
> Now, a beach team is "cheating" again. Coming from
> a program that has heard these rumors for 10+
> years, I'm still waiting for the backup. So is
> VHSL. If the cheating is so rampant, then back it
> up; it's that simple. Report the cheaters.
>
> If you can't put up, then show some respect for
> your opponent. We played beach teams most years
> during our run and our fans talked smack just like
> theirs.
Don't know about SB cheating but I do know they are afraid to play in the Concorde. I was there when it was offered up to them and they wanted nothing to do with it. They begged for the Liberty District and we all know why. So they could win their district every year and cherry pick a Concorde school to play early once a year. SB should have played in the Concorde, for Christ's sake Potomac Falls played in it when it first opened up. SB record has a huge asterisk with every knowledgeable high school football fan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Viking
()
Date: December 10, 2013 04:09PM
Thanks, EasternVaFan.
Curious. Why don't you think Mitchell will have a good game? He's seemed pretty solid so far, admittedly against weaker competition, but do you see a vulnerability?
Do you think the 2011 WRs were better than the current crop? I see this group as a little better than 2011.
Thanks again.
Curious. Why don't you think Mitchell will have a good game? He's seemed pretty solid so far, admittedly against weaker competition, but do you see a vulnerability?
Do you think the 2011 WRs were better than the current crop? I see this group as a little better than 2011.
Thanks again.
Re: Highschool Football 2
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: December 10, 2013 05:04PM
Homer Football Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Glad to see we're accusing yet another team of
> > cheating w/o backing up our claims:
> >
> > 1. For 10 years, SB was "cheating" and also was
> > "too scared" to play in Concorde. Then the
> facts
> > got in the way: NO illegals, 2-1 record vs.
> > W'field, etc.
> >
> > 2. Then in 2011, a good CV team loses to
> OSmith.
> > People claim Smith is "cheating" but then the
> > facts got in the way again. No wrongdoing.
> >
> > 3. Then Henderson transfers from WestPo. Look
> at
> > old posts on here claiming LB cheated. They
> were
> > all wrong.
> >
> > Now, a beach team is "cheating" again. Coming
> from
> > a program that has heard these rumors for 10+
> > years, I'm still waiting for the backup. So is
> > VHSL. If the cheating is so rampant, then back
> it
> > up; it's that simple. Report the cheaters.
> >
> > If you can't put up, then show some respect for
> > your opponent. We played beach teams most years
> > during our run and our fans talked smack just
> like
> > theirs.
>
>
> Don't know about SB cheating but I do know they
> are afraid to play in the Concorde. I was there
> when it was offered up to them and they wanted
> nothing to do with it. They begged for the
> Liberty District and we all know why. So they
> could win their district every year and cherry
> pick a Concorde school to play early once a year.
> SB should have played in the Concorde, for
> Christ's sake Potomac Falls played in it when it
> first opened up. SB record has a huge asterisk
> with every knowledgeable high school football fan.
-----------
Not sure I understand why SB should have played in Concorde or have an asterisk. Playing Westfield 3 times doesn't seem like cherry picking and winning twice says something about program quality regardless of where they play. I saw SB dominate Chantilly 24-8 in 2012; was 24-0 until the final minute. Langley from Liberty was seeded higher this year than every Concorde team but two. Where is the rule that says you have to play in the toughest division to be a good program? Under that logic, Florida State shouldn't be heading to Pasadena on Jan. 6th and Bobby B's wins there in the ACC should have an asterisk, too. Just asking for clarification on the logic.
-------------------------------------------------------
> OneSBFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Glad to see we're accusing yet another team of
> > cheating w/o backing up our claims:
> >
> > 1. For 10 years, SB was "cheating" and also was
> > "too scared" to play in Concorde. Then the
> facts
> > got in the way: NO illegals, 2-1 record vs.
> > W'field, etc.
> >
> > 2. Then in 2011, a good CV team loses to
> OSmith.
> > People claim Smith is "cheating" but then the
> > facts got in the way again. No wrongdoing.
> >
> > 3. Then Henderson transfers from WestPo. Look
> at
> > old posts on here claiming LB cheated. They
> were
> > all wrong.
> >
> > Now, a beach team is "cheating" again. Coming
> from
> > a program that has heard these rumors for 10+
> > years, I'm still waiting for the backup. So is
> > VHSL. If the cheating is so rampant, then back
> it
> > up; it's that simple. Report the cheaters.
> >
> > If you can't put up, then show some respect for
> > your opponent. We played beach teams most years
> > during our run and our fans talked smack just
> like
> > theirs.
>
>
> Don't know about SB cheating but I do know they
> are afraid to play in the Concorde. I was there
> when it was offered up to them and they wanted
> nothing to do with it. They begged for the
> Liberty District and we all know why. So they
> could win their district every year and cherry
> pick a Concorde school to play early once a year.
> SB should have played in the Concorde, for
> Christ's sake Potomac Falls played in it when it
> first opened up. SB record has a huge asterisk
> with every knowledgeable high school football fan.
-----------
Not sure I understand why SB should have played in Concorde or have an asterisk. Playing Westfield 3 times doesn't seem like cherry picking and winning twice says something about program quality regardless of where they play. I saw SB dominate Chantilly 24-8 in 2012; was 24-0 until the final minute. Langley from Liberty was seeded higher this year than every Concorde team but two. Where is the rule that says you have to play in the toughest division to be a good program? Under that logic, Florida State shouldn't be heading to Pasadena on Jan. 6th and Bobby B's wins there in the ACC should have an asterisk, too. Just asking for clarification on the logic.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
wildcat fanatic
()
Date: December 10, 2013 05:21PM
remember, Oscar smith is a bunch of underprivileged ghetto kids that want out of the ghetto. they are hungry and will do anything to get out. they may have a little more fight and heart then the wildcats. and if the wildcats beat them in the game the fans will be ready to beat the wildcat fans in the parking lot...be careful friends. GO WILDCATS!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hey racist dude
()
Date: December 10, 2013 05:34PM
Keep it clean keep it clean, do not need that smack
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 10, 2013 09:22PM
Where do you come off saying that Oscar Smith players are a bunch of ghetto underprivileged kids? Have you ever even been to the area where this school is located? Likely not, because if so; you would know that this school is located in the suburbs of Southern Chesapeake, in which is one of the more affluent areas in the region. Better yet, why don't you do the research of the student body demographic and there you will see that their is no significant differences in OFS's student body than any other public school in the America. It's really sad to know that you could automatically assume that because the great percentage of the kids on the OFS football team are African-American, that equates to them as being underprivileged ghetto children who's only way out of the GHETTO is to play football. Like many other public schools around are beautiful country their are children who are privileged and there are those who are less privileged than others. How about getting some facts before making false comments about children and their socioecomic
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 10, 2013 09:35PM
Where do you come off saying that Oscar Smith players are a bunch of ghetto underprivileged kids? Have you ever even been to the area where this school is located? Likely not, because if so; you would know that this school is located in the suburbs of Southern Chesapeake, in which is one of the more affluent areas in the region. Better yet, why don't you do the research of the student body demographic and there you will see that there is no significant differences in OFS's student body than any other public school in the U.S. You are very misinformed, and it's really sad to know that you could automatically assume that because the great percentage of the kids on the OFS football team are African-American, that equates to them as being underprivileged ghetto children who's only way out of the GHETTO is to play football. Like many other public schools around are beautiful country their are children who are privileged and there are those who are less privileged than others. How about getting some facts before making false comments about children who attend Oscar Smith High and their socioeconomic statuses. You're very ignorant and your statements have no merit!
OFS Educator
OFS Educator
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Haters gonna Hate
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Date: December 10, 2013 10:07PM
My observation is [some] Concorde fans are making cheating allegations as a built in excuse in case Centreville looses, accusing SB of cheating as the only reason they were good when they beat Concorde teams, a possible muddy field in case Centreville has trouble Saturday. At this point in the year the best team will win. Making semi racist remarks about where the OS kids neighborhoods are and how that may motivate them, stating statics on 40 times versus good SAT scores. Concur with fan that asked has the accuser ever been to Oscar Smith neighborhood. This trash make me switch allegiance and now hope Smith punishes Centreville (although I have nothing but respect for the classy kids that play for Centreville). Why can't the discussion stay on how talented and classy the players from Centreville have been most of the year and give some credit to the talent of Oscar S for always working hard and being well coached and always being in the hunt for championships.("Haters gonna hate") Schools all over have found ways to add a player or a few who did not grow up in the district they are currently in. Parents will find the best situation for their kids. If it means moving, or placement for all of the potential legal ways usually prior to 9th grade, it happens all over. There have been several Concorde teams that have benefited from movement. When you allege cheating at least do it with specific facts or it looks like you are building in an excuse for a loss before the loss occurs. Calling the beach arrogant is the pot calling the kettle. Yes Concorde teams have great history however [some] Concorde fans are way over the top. just my 2 cents!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
relax folks
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Date: December 10, 2013 10:17PM
These hater messages are probably not even from Centreville fans. Always planted emails from just about any goofball. Take this site for what it is worth given anonymous posting rules.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
triple lutz
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Date: December 10, 2013 10:51PM
wildcat fanatic Wrote:
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> remember, Oscar smith is a bunch of
> underprivileged ghetto kids that want out of the
> ghetto.
OScar Smith is located in the really, really nice part of Chesapeake. Lots of military kids there.
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> remember, Oscar smith is a bunch of
> underprivileged ghetto kids that want out of the
> ghetto.
OScar Smith is located in the really, really nice part of Chesapeake. Lots of military kids there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
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Date: December 10, 2013 11:04PM
Keep in mind that the lack of information breeds rumors and misinformation that has cropped up regarding recruitment and transfers. This really is not the fault of fans that simply want a fair opportunity to win. If anyone should be blamed it should be the VHSL for not being open and transparent regarding the rules. Simply finding information regarding the subject is extremely difficult which should not be the case in the internet age.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Doge
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Date: December 10, 2013 11:05PM
Lul wut
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
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Date: December 10, 2013 11:40PM
Haters gonna Hate Wrote:
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> My observation is [some] Concorde fans are making
> cheating allegations as a built in excuse in case
> Centreville looses, accusing SB of cheating as the
> only reason they were good when they beat Concorde
> teams, a possible muddy field in case Centreville
> has trouble Saturday. At this point in the year
> the best team will win. Making semi racist
> remarks about where the OS kids neighborhoods are
> and how that may motivate them, stating statics
> on 40 times versus good SAT scores. Concur with
> fan that asked has the accuser ever been to Oscar
> Smith neighborhood. This trash make me switch
> allegiance and now hope Smith punishes Centreville
> (although I have nothing but respect for the
> classy kids that play for Centreville). Why can't
> the discussion stay on how talented and classy the
> players from Centreville have been most of the
> year and give some credit to the talent of Oscar S
> for always working hard and being well coached and
> always being in the hunt for
> championships.("Haters gonna hate") Schools all
> over have found ways to add a player or a few who
> did not grow up in the district they are currently
> in. Parents will find the best situation for
> their kids. If it means moving, or placement for
> all of the potential legal ways usually prior to
> 9th grade, it happens all over. There have been
> several Concorde teams that have benefited from
> movement. When you allege cheating at least do it
> with specific facts or it looks like you are
> building in an excuse for a loss before the loss
> occurs. Calling the beach arrogant is the pot
> calling the kettle. Yes Concorde teams have great
> history however [some] Concorde fans are way over
> the top. just my 2 cents!
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Well said and let's see a great game between 2 teams that have had great years.
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> My observation is [some] Concorde fans are making
> cheating allegations as a built in excuse in case
> Centreville looses, accusing SB of cheating as the
> only reason they were good when they beat Concorde
> teams, a possible muddy field in case Centreville
> has trouble Saturday. At this point in the year
> the best team will win. Making semi racist
> remarks about where the OS kids neighborhoods are
> and how that may motivate them, stating statics
> on 40 times versus good SAT scores. Concur with
> fan that asked has the accuser ever been to Oscar
> Smith neighborhood. This trash make me switch
> allegiance and now hope Smith punishes Centreville
> (although I have nothing but respect for the
> classy kids that play for Centreville). Why can't
> the discussion stay on how talented and classy the
> players from Centreville have been most of the
> year and give some credit to the talent of Oscar S
> for always working hard and being well coached and
> always being in the hunt for
> championships.("Haters gonna hate") Schools all
> over have found ways to add a player or a few who
> did not grow up in the district they are currently
> in. Parents will find the best situation for
> their kids. If it means moving, or placement for
> all of the potential legal ways usually prior to
> 9th grade, it happens all over. There have been
> several Concorde teams that have benefited from
> movement. When you allege cheating at least do it
> with specific facts or it looks like you are
> building in an excuse for a loss before the loss
> occurs. Calling the beach arrogant is the pot
> calling the kettle. Yes Concorde teams have great
> history however [some] Concorde fans are way over
> the top. just my 2 cents!
----------
Well said and let's see a great game between 2 teams that have had great years.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
()
Date: December 10, 2013 11:43PM
DeeCoVA Wrote:
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> Where do you come off saying that Oscar Smith
> players are a bunch of ghetto underprivileged
> kids? Have you ever even been to the area where
> this school is located? Likely not, because if so;
> you would know that this school is located in the
> suburbs of Southern Chesapeake, in which is one of
> the more affluent areas in the region. Better yet,
> why don't you do the research of the student body
> demographic and there you will see that there is
> no significant differences in OFS's student body
> than any other public school in the U.S. You are
> very misinformed, and it's really sad to know that
> you could automatically assume that because the
> great percentage of the kids on the OFS football
> team are African-American, that equates to them as
> being underprivileged ghetto children who's only
> way out of the GHETTO is to play football. Like
> many other public schools around are beautiful
> country their are children who are privileged and
> there are those who are less privileged than
> others. How about getting some facts before making
> false comments about children who attend Oscar
> Smith High and their socioeconomic statuses.
> You're very ignorant and your statements have no
> merit!
>
> OFS Educator
------
Great points. Thank you!
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> Where do you come off saying that Oscar Smith
> players are a bunch of ghetto underprivileged
> kids? Have you ever even been to the area where
> this school is located? Likely not, because if so;
> you would know that this school is located in the
> suburbs of Southern Chesapeake, in which is one of
> the more affluent areas in the region. Better yet,
> why don't you do the research of the student body
> demographic and there you will see that there is
> no significant differences in OFS's student body
> than any other public school in the U.S. You are
> very misinformed, and it's really sad to know that
> you could automatically assume that because the
> great percentage of the kids on the OFS football
> team are African-American, that equates to them as
> being underprivileged ghetto children who's only
> way out of the GHETTO is to play football. Like
> many other public schools around are beautiful
> country their are children who are privileged and
> there are those who are less privileged than
> others. How about getting some facts before making
> false comments about children who attend Oscar
> Smith High and their socioeconomic statuses.
> You're very ignorant and your statements have no
> merit!
>
> OFS Educator
------
Great points. Thank you!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
rain and snow Sat
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Date: December 11, 2013 08:10AM
Rain and snow and ice oh my
All scheduled for Saturday's championship games.
All scheduled for Saturday's championship games.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
love da weather
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Date: December 11, 2013 08:25AM
Bring on the weather, who cares? Let's play some football.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
weatherman
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Date: December 11, 2013 08:26AM
The major story is shaping up to be the weather. Forecasts show temps dropping with freezing rain and snow. Any chance of postponing game? If so,
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
love da weather
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Date: December 11, 2013 08:35AM
As cryptic as the VHSL is they will not say anything to the public about anything. Will keep everyone guessing.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
weatherman
()
Date: December 11, 2013 09:15AM
Can anyone recall a State Championship game being postpone in the past?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
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Date: December 11, 2013 10:44AM
Piggy backing off of one of the previous posters. OFS is located in a region of the state that has a very large military presence and is home to the WORLDS largest naval base. With that being said, you don't think that may factor in to the minds of parents who get orders to the area and has a kid that is a great athelete to locate to a community that is nice, great school, and has an outstanding nationally recognized football program? OFS's 5 star recruit LEGAL 2 year resident lives in the school district, 10 minute walk from the school's campus. Another star player who attends the school and commited to play at the next level is an import from Florida and has been at the school since 9th grade. These are just some of the examples of how this program get some of these atheletes. Another reason that these kids are so talented atheletically is because the feeder system that is the 3 middle schools in the area that Oscar Smith players come from who's coaches do a great job at preparing these kids for what's going to be expected by Coach Morgan if they want to play for his program. Like one poster said, all of the excuses and accussations start to surface in case there may be defeat or and embarrassing defeat of Centreville by Smith like it was at UVA in 2011. What is all of the hate really about? C-Ville is number one in the state for a reason; they're a very well coached team with some great players right? I don't hear or see anyone saying that they recruit players to play for outstanding program. Any team can be defeated on any given day, depending on waht coach has the better game plan as well as the will to win of the team. The game still has to be played on Sat afternoon so let's be respectful of these players who are still children, root for our respective schools; and enjoy what I'm sure will be an entertaining event, may the best team win!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:49AM
Sorry about the many typos in my previous post guys!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: December 11, 2013 11:04AM
Here are the spreads for this weekend's state championships!
Briar Woods vs. LC Bird (-17.0)
*Briar Woods is looking for their 4th consecutive state championship, but first in an appropriate classification. I haven't seen LC Bird this year, but if they're remotely similar to last year's D6 state championship team, Briar Woods is in for a super tough opponent.
Oscar Smith (-14.0) vs. Centreville
*As much as Centreville dominated the Northern Region, and I think they were easily a top 3 team the last 15 years; Oscar Smith is really good. Led by just-announced Gatorade National Player of the Year Andrew Brown on the D-Line and an impressive high-powered offense, I see Oscar Smith winning.
If Centreville can stay in the game early, this could turn out to be a great one though. I will definitely be pulling for the Wildcats, and who knows!
Briar Woods vs. LC Bird (-17.0)
*Briar Woods is looking for their 4th consecutive state championship, but first in an appropriate classification. I haven't seen LC Bird this year, but if they're remotely similar to last year's D6 state championship team, Briar Woods is in for a super tough opponent.
Oscar Smith (-14.0) vs. Centreville
*As much as Centreville dominated the Northern Region, and I think they were easily a top 3 team the last 15 years; Oscar Smith is really good. Led by just-announced Gatorade National Player of the Year Andrew Brown on the D-Line and an impressive high-powered offense, I see Oscar Smith winning.
If Centreville can stay in the game early, this could turn out to be a great one though. I will definitely be pulling for the Wildcats, and who knows!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:15AM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Here are the spreads for this weekend's state
> championships!
> Oscar Smith (-14.0) vs. Centreville
> *As much as Centreville dominated the Northern
> Region, and I think they were easily a top 3 team
> the last 15 years; Oscar Smith is really good.
> Led by just-announced Gatorade National Player of
> the Year Andrew Brown on the D-Line and an
> impressive high-powered offense, I see Oscar Smith
> winning.
I would sure like to think Centreville can stick with OS. If they can't ... well, then OS is just a freakishly good team. Centreville should be really prepared - they played 2 of the better high powered offenses in the region and then a solid all around team with a very tough defense. So they have seen it all.
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> Here are the spreads for this weekend's state
> championships!
> Oscar Smith (-14.0) vs. Centreville
> *As much as Centreville dominated the Northern
> Region, and I think they were easily a top 3 team
> the last 15 years; Oscar Smith is really good.
> Led by just-announced Gatorade National Player of
> the Year Andrew Brown on the D-Line and an
> impressive high-powered offense, I see Oscar Smith
> winning.
I would sure like to think Centreville can stick with OS. If they can't ... well, then OS is just a freakishly good team. Centreville should be really prepared - they played 2 of the better high powered offenses in the region and then a solid all around team with a very tough defense. So they have seen it all.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Concorde longtime
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Date: December 11, 2013 11:35AM
As someone who attended the LC Bird/Oakton game last year, wow. They were silly good. Granted some of their top guys have graduated from last year, but it looks like they reloaded. Several Oakton players were knocked out of the game last year after hard (some were questionable) hits from LC Bird players. Briar Woods had better be prepared to fight until the whistle.
Ditto for Centreville. These won't be your father's NOVA football team that these schools will be playing.
Game on!
Ditto for Centreville. These won't be your father's NOVA football team that these schools will be playing.
Game on!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I wuv you 757
()
Date: December 11, 2013 01:28PM
I take everything back anyone has said bad about the 757. I wuv you.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I wuv you too
()
Date: December 11, 2013 01:47PM
I wuv you back
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Gatorade player
()
Date: December 11, 2013 01:56PM
National player of year is Andrew Brown of Indian River...nah scratch that...Oscar Smith High
Clueless Haters!!!
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 11, 2013 02:24PM
Smith did not stroggle on offense last week against CF, only if you call one back rushing for over 200 yds in the game, 118 before half and 85 on the first drive in which covered 12 plays all running may I add struggles on offense. It was the game plan so know your facts. You clearly don't know much about how to really play football and offensive strategies. Oscar Smith has the best pass attack in the state with a freshman QB close to 3000 yards for the season. CF could not stop the run with 8-9 in the box the entire game; any smart coach would elect to continue to pound the ball and control the clock in that situation when you have a stout defense who allowed -1 yd of offense the first half, and 51 total total yards of offense for colonial forge for the game. If you don't have to open up the play book to reveal what tricks you have up your sleeve to the next opponent on film ground attack until your opponent shows they can stop you, and in CF place they could not stop it. OS only attempted about 5 pass plays on them not because CF had great pass coverage: it was because the did not have too. All I hear is some of you guys complaining about tranfers at OS. When did it become illegal for a student to tranfer schools? in Andrew Browns case, he has been a student at OS for 2 years now, and he and his family legally reside in the OS school district in the neighborhood adjacent to the School campus. You arm chair QB's up here all know the facts. You think that the schooll that he left two seasons ago coach would have let that happen in a district where he competes against a program every year in the reg season if it was not a legit transfer? Stop listening to rumors from other misinformed posters that know nothing about football in the tidewater area.
Re: Clueless Haters!!!
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 11, 2013 02:47PM
Lol at the poster the mentioned that college recruiters don't respect schools in eatsern region academically; stop the lies. That why shools such as Stanford, Cornell and UVA have all tried to get players out of Smith to their programs that did qualify to attend those schools. You don't get into UVA with BullShit GPA's and SAT scores. By the way Andrew Brown is not the first tiger player to accept a scholarship to UVA to attend school and play ball by the way. And not the one that went to Alabama and then tranfered to UVA for all those who are ready to use that line.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 11, 2013 02:49PM
Thank you DeeCo. You make some great points. As a Centreville fan, I saw how good they were in 2011, then I saw how good OS was. It was a pretty big difference, maybe between 10-14 points if both teams were full strength. It became pretty easy to say they cheated, but facts show they didn't. They're just good.
I personally think this year will be different from 2011. It will be much closer. I know how much better this C'Ville team is than the 2011 team. No disrespect, but this team is deeper and faster. According to some, this OS team is significantly less disciplined than 2011. I haven't seen them so I don't know for sure. Anything can happen, but I predict a very close game.
I personally think this year will be different from 2011. It will be much closer. I know how much better this C'Ville team is than the 2011 team. No disrespect, but this team is deeper and faster. According to some, this OS team is significantly less disciplined than 2011. I haven't seen them so I don't know for sure. Anything can happen, but I predict a very close game.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Transfer Concerns
()
Date: December 11, 2013 03:54PM
VHSL just announced today a complete investigation into the oddities surrounding the transfer of players into Oscar Smith and especially national star player Andrew Brown.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
About time
()
Date: December 11, 2013 04:45PM
Leave it to VHSL to do this now instead of before
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 11, 2013 04:56PM
Kicker, Great post, and I really respect what you're said, but I'm here to tell you that people have been saying the same song year in and year out; this OS team is not better then that OS team. The team that won the 2011 state championship is not as good as the team that won it all in 2008. A Significantly less disciplined team does not equal to get you to the state championship game. Anyone who's actually and truly familiar with the program can only tell you that and I doubt that they would say that to anyone, so don't believe all false information that is out there about this particular group of Tigers. I take nothing away from C-ville, I've watched film on them and I agree with you that they seem to be faster on offense then the team from 2011, but the same could be said about Smith's team in which looks overall stronger and faster up front then any Smith team that I have seen. Both teams are obviously very talented or else they would not be where they are at this point. I don't think the either one of these teams are lacking in talent, it's going to come down to whatever coach has the best game plan in place and how well executed it is. I look for a much more competitive game this time around. I know what caliber of a team that we have here down southeast region but anybody can be defeated with the right game plan. Centreville comes into this game as the #1 seed in the state as there were in 2011 so who's the underdog? C-Ville rank there for a reason and it's not for being a average team. By the way Kicker, this entire post was not directed towards you my friend lol..I respect your post! And for the poster saying that their is now an investigation into the transfer of players into Oscar Smith, stop putting lies out there trying to make a program look bad. It's already enough false stories out there about transfers that are untrue. Again people, this is not Brown's first year being a student at Oscar Smith, he left his previous school as a sophomore, so you can stop with all of the crazy excuses that is being prepared pending a defeat this Saturday.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
I think...
()
Date: December 11, 2013 04:57PM
About time Wrote:
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> Leave it to VHSL to do this now instead of before
...He was being sarcastic.
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> Leave it to VHSL to do this now instead of before
...He was being sarcastic.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Touchy touchy
()
Date: December 11, 2013 06:45PM
DeeCoVa why so touchy? Usually when folks like you defend so vociferously there must be fire behind that smoke. What is the 757 hiding ?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 07:35PM
Hey all, happy winter wonderland. Hsfballfan here for my special state championship edition. Get your snow boots on and your rain slickers bought at Dick's Sporting Goods. Looks like it will be a cold, sloppy mess in CVille (UVA that is) this Saturday.
So what do I think, I think Oscar Smith looks scary good and Andrew Brown just was named national player of the year. But what is my pick - being the astute judge of football, human emotion, karma, and other things universal (as well as being an avowed CVille homer - as you all well know) I am going with CVille 24 Oscar Smith 21. Seeing all of the confident Beach fans on here I am sure I will get blowback but here are my thoughts, like them or not.
* First seeing the posts and responses the last few days I am not sure why so many people are pushing the cheating idea or why the 757ers are buying into the need to respond. Probably one poster who is just playing the hater. For my good friends on this site you all know I had my own run in with the haters a few weeks back and have decided to let them go. Serenity now as George Costanza said.
* Second of course Andrew Brown is a beast but fortunately football is a team game. If I am Centreville I would resist the temptation to do too much to stop him specifically. Given his talent he will get his but CVille has to come with what worked for them and give it their best shot. I do not think you need to be someone else at this point. I would double team him from time to time but not let other players run completely unblocked....will defeat the purpose.
* Next I think a sloppy field goes to CVille advantage. Previous posters said that Oscar Smith did not unleash the passing fury, etc. last week well they will not be able to if it is raining and icy either. I feel good about Cville's run defense and ability to run (Andrew Brown notwithstanding).
* Next I think that the 757 is still thinking about the 2011 edition of CVille football. Very nice team with 5 or 6 very good players. However the 2013 edition has 10-15 stars with additional depth and speed in all positions.
* Next I will say the most important difference this year for CVille is the play of QB Scott Walter. Big, fast, can pass, can run, can block, great athlete, has confidence and a tough attitude. Much better than our 2011 QB who with all due respect was overmatched. Walter and FB Taylor Boose and others are not going to shrink from a couple of sacks by Brown or whatever. That is again why I say let him get his and keep trying because we will get ours.
* Now to the issue of freshman QB Mitchell for OS. Of course he is good, of course he has pedigree but I would make him think....mix up coverages, bring in some all out blitzes, bring in some disguised blitzes, put him on the ground a few times and see how he deals with the pressure. Not looking to hurt anyone but a Freshman QB has to be welcomed to the big game with some hard, fair tackles.
* I think that CVille has a real chip on the shoulder because of 2011. Oscar Smith was better but the beat down did not sit well especially after we lost our star play Ken Ekanem, etc.
* I know all the reasons why Oscar Smith can win, great defense, dominating offense, good coaching, superb athletes, etc. No problem. THey are still high school kids. If I am CVille coaches I am saying to the kids do not read the press clippings, in reality no one is giving us a chance, go out and shock the world, we have nothing to lose, and you are a good team that can play great Saturday. I would also play up the idea that Oscar Smith is overconfident, whether they are or not.
Anyway of course some homerism in my comments but WTF. Let us see how it goes.
See you in Charlottesville. Stay dry, stay warm but most of all....
Stay classy Fairfax Underground.
hsfballfan signing out!
So what do I think, I think Oscar Smith looks scary good and Andrew Brown just was named national player of the year. But what is my pick - being the astute judge of football, human emotion, karma, and other things universal (as well as being an avowed CVille homer - as you all well know) I am going with CVille 24 Oscar Smith 21. Seeing all of the confident Beach fans on here I am sure I will get blowback but here are my thoughts, like them or not.
* First seeing the posts and responses the last few days I am not sure why so many people are pushing the cheating idea or why the 757ers are buying into the need to respond. Probably one poster who is just playing the hater. For my good friends on this site you all know I had my own run in with the haters a few weeks back and have decided to let them go. Serenity now as George Costanza said.
* Second of course Andrew Brown is a beast but fortunately football is a team game. If I am Centreville I would resist the temptation to do too much to stop him specifically. Given his talent he will get his but CVille has to come with what worked for them and give it their best shot. I do not think you need to be someone else at this point. I would double team him from time to time but not let other players run completely unblocked....will defeat the purpose.
* Next I think a sloppy field goes to CVille advantage. Previous posters said that Oscar Smith did not unleash the passing fury, etc. last week well they will not be able to if it is raining and icy either. I feel good about Cville's run defense and ability to run (Andrew Brown notwithstanding).
* Next I think that the 757 is still thinking about the 2011 edition of CVille football. Very nice team with 5 or 6 very good players. However the 2013 edition has 10-15 stars with additional depth and speed in all positions.
* Next I will say the most important difference this year for CVille is the play of QB Scott Walter. Big, fast, can pass, can run, can block, great athlete, has confidence and a tough attitude. Much better than our 2011 QB who with all due respect was overmatched. Walter and FB Taylor Boose and others are not going to shrink from a couple of sacks by Brown or whatever. That is again why I say let him get his and keep trying because we will get ours.
* Now to the issue of freshman QB Mitchell for OS. Of course he is good, of course he has pedigree but I would make him think....mix up coverages, bring in some all out blitzes, bring in some disguised blitzes, put him on the ground a few times and see how he deals with the pressure. Not looking to hurt anyone but a Freshman QB has to be welcomed to the big game with some hard, fair tackles.
* I think that CVille has a real chip on the shoulder because of 2011. Oscar Smith was better but the beat down did not sit well especially after we lost our star play Ken Ekanem, etc.
* I know all the reasons why Oscar Smith can win, great defense, dominating offense, good coaching, superb athletes, etc. No problem. THey are still high school kids. If I am CVille coaches I am saying to the kids do not read the press clippings, in reality no one is giving us a chance, go out and shock the world, we have nothing to lose, and you are a good team that can play great Saturday. I would also play up the idea that Oscar Smith is overconfident, whether they are or not.
Anyway of course some homerism in my comments but WTF. Let us see how it goes.
See you in Charlottesville. Stay dry, stay warm but most of all....
Stay classy Fairfax Underground.
hsfballfan signing out!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
go hsfballfan go
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Date: December 11, 2013 07:53PM
Great post, hsfballfan - they come all too infrequently. Do not agree with all of your ideas but I like your mix of some football, some homespun humor, and some homerism as you call it. Will miss your posts when the season is over. Well done my friend.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 07:59PM
Thanks for the kind words. Looking forward to hearing what some of the "wall of famers" on this site think!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
757 baby
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Date: December 11, 2013 08:11PM
Very good analyst hsfballfan
I think alot will be on the QBs, freshmen vs senior. Most would take the senior everytime, but this kid is very athletic and can make plays with his feet and arm. He is a smart kid and will make plays.
I agree, this years Centerville QB is much better then 2011, but can he stand up to the pressure he will see. We will see on Saturday.
I think it will a good game, However, using your logic over the past few weeks, the better team will win!
Oscar Smith is the better team this year! Oscar Smith 28-14
I think alot will be on the QBs, freshmen vs senior. Most would take the senior everytime, but this kid is very athletic and can make plays with his feet and arm. He is a smart kid and will make plays.
I agree, this years Centerville QB is much better then 2011, but can he stand up to the pressure he will see. We will see on Saturday.
I think it will a good game, However, using your logic over the past few weeks, the better team will win!
Oscar Smith is the better team this year! Oscar Smith 28-14
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
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Date: December 11, 2013 08:24PM
Touchy touchy Wrote:
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> DeeCoVa why so touchy? Usually when folks like
> you defend so vociferously there must be fire
> behind that smoke. What is the 757 hiding ?
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Your logic is ridiculous. If somebody vigorously defends, then that makes the allegations in some way true? You talk about fire and smoke, but smoke is what you get when you elect a new pope. You obviously haven't posted on here before unless you're one of the gutless and uninformed wonders who already disparaged people from the beach they don't even know. Show some respect. I wonder how you'd react is you got accused of cheating, being "getto kids," etc. Did you even know about Smith's IB program? Hell no.
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> DeeCoVa why so touchy? Usually when folks like
> you defend so vociferously there must be fire
> behind that smoke. What is the 757 hiding ?
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Your logic is ridiculous. If somebody vigorously defends, then that makes the allegations in some way true? You talk about fire and smoke, but smoke is what you get when you elect a new pope. You obviously haven't posted on here before unless you're one of the gutless and uninformed wonders who already disparaged people from the beach they don't even know. Show some respect. I wonder how you'd react is you got accused of cheating, being "getto kids," etc. Did you even know about Smith's IB program? Hell no.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Touchy touchy
()
Date: December 11, 2013 08:42PM
Oh yeah all of those IB programs that Smith and Lakes and Phoebus, etc use to get kids transferred in on to play football, right....
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSBFan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 09:27PM
Touchy touchy Wrote:
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> Oh yeah all of those IB programs that Smith and
> Lakes and Phoebus, etc use to get kids transferred
> in on to play football, right....
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Put up for shut up--which ones are illegal transfers? You don't know what you're talking about with that stupid "where there's smoke, there's fire" logic. There was smoke about Henderson transferring to LB -- but the only fire was the credibility of the accusers going up in smoke. You don't have any credibility anyway bc you made up a name just for today instead of using whatever name you usually go by on here.
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> Oh yeah all of those IB programs that Smith and
> Lakes and Phoebus, etc use to get kids transferred
> in on to play football, right....
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Put up for shut up--which ones are illegal transfers? You don't know what you're talking about with that stupid "where there's smoke, there's fire" logic. There was smoke about Henderson transferring to LB -- but the only fire was the credibility of the accusers going up in smoke. You don't have any credibility anyway bc you made up a name just for today instead of using whatever name you usually go by on here.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
touche touche
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Date: December 11, 2013 09:31PM
Ok how about this name? Still a bunch of cheaters down there.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cant we all get along
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Date: December 11, 2013 09:34PM
This is tiring everyone, on both sides. I am more interested in what people think of who will win the games this weekend.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
OneSB1Fan
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Date: December 11, 2013 09:52PM
I am sorry I know I am wrong here. Cannot cover up for all the excesses down there anymore.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
SECEAST
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Date: December 11, 2013 09:55PM
Touchy touchy Wrote:
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> DeeCoVa why so touchy? Usually when folks like
> you defend so vociferously there must be fire
> behind that smoke. What is the 757 hiding ?
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So now there's a whole area code conspiring to beat CV? Smith's repetitions produce sharp routes and deception at LOS that makes it hard for you to make good reads. People like you make stuff up because because you'd rather demonize than respect an opposing team. Hopefully, CV's players have more respect for their opponent than you do. Otherwise, pray for rain on Sat.
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> DeeCoVa why so touchy? Usually when folks like
> you defend so vociferously there must be fire
> behind that smoke. What is the 757 hiding ?
-------
So now there's a whole area code conspiring to beat CV? Smith's repetitions produce sharp routes and deception at LOS that makes it hard for you to make good reads. People like you make stuff up because because you'd rather demonize than respect an opposing team. Hopefully, CV's players have more respect for their opponent than you do. Otherwise, pray for rain on Sat.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:02PM
Everyone I have a little experience with the haters. Just let it go, whomever that is doesn't speak for CVille or the 703. It took me a few weeks to figure out but I finally did. The more you play with trolls the more they will play with you. Heck the troll probably is not even from here.
Anyone else want to respond to my post or the variety of other reasonable posters over the last few weeks?
Stay classy Fairfax Underground!
Anyone else want to respond to my post or the variety of other reasonable posters over the last few weeks?
Stay classy Fairfax Underground!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
touche touche
()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:26PM
Who died and made you boss hsfballfan?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
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Date: December 11, 2013 10:32PM
Just want to wish CV and BW good luck on Sat. These teams have had great years and are only one "W" away from titling. Sure, Bird and Smith are tough opponents, but EVERY team that gets to UVA is. Neither one is as battle-tested as are BW and CV. Having lived in both regions, I know that beach teams have a ton of respect for teams from here. It's not just that 6 or 7 different NR teams have titled in D6 since Annandale did it in the early 1990s. It's that most teams NR sent to states have been bad-ass. This year is no different. I saw the CV-Westfield rematch and CV looked just as strong as in 2011 but quicker overall; #23 can play. CV looked better to me than Smith did when it opened vs LT. That's why it's no surprise that Smith has scored a grand total of 24 points in its last 2 games. You have to D up aggressively and don't worry about the deep pass as much as what's going on at LOS. If I HAD to pick only 2 factors that would decide this game, I'd say its how well CV's LBs play and how well Smtih's QB executes. Smith always tests a team's LBs. As for the QB, it's a question of whether CV can get to his head and affect his game. Pressure and a little chatter at the LOS can do that.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:38PM
Thanks EasternVaFan, maybe we are back on track now! Not surprised because EVF is a honored wall of fame member. One question - why the focus on Centreville linebackers? If so that is good as that is a strength of theirs even stronger perhaps than their line or their db's. Explain a bit more what you mean by the key will be CVille LBs. I do agree that how well the Freshman QB keeps his head in the game will be another key.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:46PM
touche touche Wrote:
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> Who died and made you boss hsfballfan?
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Many of us come here to read and respond to the insights about FB that other posters share. Posts by hsfballfsn show he knows something about FB. You're on here -- so you must like FB and know something about it. Why not share how you see Saturday's game going instead of chain-choking people? Looking at your posts above, not one addresses the game of FB.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2013 10:48PM by EasternVaFan.
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> Who died and made you boss hsfballfan?
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Many of us come here to read and respond to the insights about FB that other posters share. Posts by hsfballfsn show he knows something about FB. You're on here -- so you must like FB and know something about it. Why not share how you see Saturday's game going instead of chain-choking people? Looking at your posts above, not one addresses the game of FB.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2013 10:48PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:08PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Thanks EasternVaFan, maybe we are back on track
> now! Not surprised because EVF is a honored wall
> of fame member. One question - why the focus on
> Centreville linebackers? If so that is good as
> that is a strength of theirs even stronger perhaps
> than their line or their db's. Explain a bit more
> what you mean by the key will be CVille LBs. I do
> agree that how well the Freshman QB keeps his head
> in the game will be another key.
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LT's LBs had trouble with Smith's under passes. Then when Smith threw downfield a few times, the LBs were out of position the rest of the game. Too close to LOS, lanes were too wide, bad reads, drops not far enough, etc. LT was D5 2012 champ and good again this year but the LBs were tricked all game. It WAS the opener and maybe that had some effect. A few plays the other day raised a question, mostly the TD run around the left side where Westfield's back ran away from the LBs. I "think" that made it 28-14 and remember wondering how these LBs will handle an O that trades heavily on beating you to spots. This all leads me to believe that the game turns mainly on CV's D.
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> Thanks EasternVaFan, maybe we are back on track
> now! Not surprised because EVF is a honored wall
> of fame member. One question - why the focus on
> Centreville linebackers? If so that is good as
> that is a strength of theirs even stronger perhaps
> than their line or their db's. Explain a bit more
> what you mean by the key will be CVille LBs. I do
> agree that how well the Freshman QB keeps his head
> in the game will be another key.
-------
LT's LBs had trouble with Smith's under passes. Then when Smith threw downfield a few times, the LBs were out of position the rest of the game. Too close to LOS, lanes were too wide, bad reads, drops not far enough, etc. LT was D5 2012 champ and good again this year but the LBs were tricked all game. It WAS the opener and maybe that had some effect. A few plays the other day raised a question, mostly the TD run around the left side where Westfield's back ran away from the LBs. I "think" that made it 28-14 and remember wondering how these LBs will handle an O that trades heavily on beating you to spots. This all leads me to believe that the game turns mainly on CV's D.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:10PM
Ah I got it. I too was a bit distraught by the Westfield touchdown but rest of the game and most of season the LBs have been top notch. Guess we will find out in a few days!
Thanks again for your insights.
Thanks again for your insights.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:44PM
hsfballfan Wrote:
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> Ah I got it. I too was a bit distraught by the
> Westfield touchdown but rest of the game and most
> of season the LBs have been top notch. Guess we
> will find out in a few days!
>
> Thanks again for your insights.
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I hesitate to call them insights since I've only seen CV play the one game vs Westfield. Since Westfield mainly ran, I didn't get a sense of how good CV's LBs could get inside a passer's head. It's a "W" if they can do it at UVA.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2013 11:45PM by EasternVaFan.
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> Ah I got it. I too was a bit distraught by the
> Westfield touchdown but rest of the game and most
> of season the LBs have been top notch. Guess we
> will find out in a few days!
>
> Thanks again for your insights.
------
I hesitate to call them insights since I've only seen CV play the one game vs Westfield. Since Westfield mainly ran, I didn't get a sense of how good CV's LBs could get inside a passer's head. It's a "W" if they can do it at UVA.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2013 11:45PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
The Kicker
()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:59PM
I have not seen OS play so I'm just going off what I've heard.
Offense I'd say is a wash. For OS, Deshawn Mcclease is good, but is he as good as Turner? I guess we'll find out. OS passing is better than CV.
Defense, so far I'd say OS, but they haven't been tested like they will be against the misdirection and good blocking of CV's O?
Special Teams, Centreville I think has a distinct edge. Their kick coverage, only major weakness early in the season, has gotten a ton better. Still a little suspect, but not like it was earlier. Otherwise, they've been amazing all year. I assume with the athletes that OS has that their Kickoff return and punt return are very good as well.
These teams are very close, and I think that will show on Saturday (or Sunday, as I've heard they could possibly postpone it) !
As always, hsfballfan, great post. Let us join in Cville homerism!!!
Offense I'd say is a wash. For OS, Deshawn Mcclease is good, but is he as good as Turner? I guess we'll find out. OS passing is better than CV.
Defense, so far I'd say OS, but they haven't been tested like they will be against the misdirection and good blocking of CV's O?
Special Teams, Centreville I think has a distinct edge. Their kick coverage, only major weakness early in the season, has gotten a ton better. Still a little suspect, but not like it was earlier. Otherwise, they've been amazing all year. I assume with the athletes that OS has that their Kickoff return and punt return are very good as well.
These teams are very close, and I think that will show on Saturday (or Sunday, as I've heard they could possibly postpone it) !
As always, hsfballfan, great post. Let us join in Cville homerism!!!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nova Fan
()
Date: December 12, 2013 07:49AM
What an impressive Freshman QB OS has in Shon Mitchell. Around 25 TDs and only 2 interceptions all year. I also noticed on short yardage situations they line up in a power I and have their GPOY Tackle Brown line up in the backfield and lead the RB. Their Defense is also very fast an athletic. I can see why no one has scored more than 14 on them all year giving up only 4.8 points a game. I can't see centreville scoring more than 14. I think the final will be OS winning 21 to 14.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
All Region
()
Date: December 12, 2013 08:10AM
Still can't find anything official for all-conference (district), but
the All-Region team has been released.
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131211/SPORTS/131219680/1267/2013-all-region-football-selections&template=fairfaxTimes
Offensive Player of the Year: Caleb Henderson, Senior, Quarterback, Lake Braddock
Defensive Player of the Year: Chad Wiggins, Senior, Linebacker, Centreville
First-Team Offense
Josh Smith, Senior, Center, Centreville
Kainoa O’Conner, Junior, Offensive Line, Centreville
Brooks Norris, Senior, Offensive Line, Langley
Reece Burnett, Senior, Offensive Line, Lake Braddock
Kidus Woldeyes, Senior, Offensive Line, South County
AJ Turner, Junior, Running Back, Centreville
MJ Stewart, Senior, Running Back, Yorktown
Nick Scott, Senior, Running Back, Fairfax
Charles Tutt, Junior, Wideout, Centreville
AJ Alexander, Junior, Wideout, Lake Braddock
Quinton Reynolds, Senior, Wideout, Patriot
Caleb Henderson, Senior, Quarterback, Lake Braddock
AJ Turner, Junior, Kick Returner, Centreville
Cory Huddleston, Senior, Place Kicker, Lake Braddock
Greg Stroman, O-Utility/Athlete Player, Senior, Stonewall Jackson
First-Team Defense
Jordan Brooks, Junior, Defensive Line, Centreville
Jake Pinkston, Senior, Defensive Line, Robinson
Tim Settle, Junior, Defensive Line, Stonewall Jackson
Jeremiah Clark, Senior, Defensive Line, T.C. Williams
Chad Wiggins, Senior, Linebacker, Centreville
Tyler Love, Junior, Linebacker, Centreville
Malik Carney, Senior, Linebacker, T.C. Williams
Mikail Vinson, Senior, Linebacker, South County
AJ Turner, Junior, Defensive Back, Centreville
AJ Alexander, Junior, Defensive Back, Lake Braddock
MJ Stewart, Senior, Defensive Back, Yorktown
Charles Tutt, Junior, Defensive Back, Centreville
Raeshawn Smith, Senior, Punt Returner, Chantilly
John Magnusson, Senior, Punter, Westfield
Demornay Pierson-El, Senior, D-Utility/Athlete Player, West Potomac
Second-Team Offense
Alex Kolencik, Senior, Center, Langley
Brandon King, Senior, Offensive Line, Centreville
Aiden Elkhatib, Senior, Offensive Line, Robinson
Mike Peterson, Senior, Offensive Line, South County
Diandre Stubbs, Senior, Offensive Line, Stonewall Jackson
Trevor O’Brien, Senior, Running Back, Lake Braddock
Levaughn Davis, Senior, Running Back, South County
Tyler Thrasher-Walker, Senior, Running Back, Westfield
Malik Carney, Senior, Running Back, T.C. Williams
Nick Ferrari-Smith, Senior, Running Back, Patriot
Reggie Floyd, Sophomore, Running Back, Stonewall Jackson
Raeshawn Smith, Senior, Wideout, Chantilly
Garrett Collier, Senior, Wideout, Langley
Devon Burns, Senior, Wideout, Westfield
Scott Walter, Senior, Quarterback, Centreville
Greg Stroman, Senior, Quarterback, Stonewall Jackson
Demornay Pierson-El, Senior, Kick Returner, West Potomac
Eric Rondeau, Junior, Place Kicker, Centreville
Second-Team Defense
Reece Burnett, Senior, Defensive Line, Lake Braddock
Ethan Clark, Senior, Defensive Line, South Lakes
Diandre Stubbs, Senior, Defensive Line, Stonewall Jackson
Chase Koon, Senior, Defensive Line, Westfield
Kevin Hankton, Senior, Linebacker, Lake Braddock
George Asante, Senior, Linebacker, Hayfield
Jamel Jimmerson, Senior, Linebacker, Stonewall Jackson
Chase Richardson, Senior, Linebacker, Battlefield
James Gibson, Junior, Defensive Back, Westfield
Demornay Pierson-El, Senior, Defensive Back, West Potomac
Mileek Burns, Junior, Defensive Back, Fairfax
Corey Parker, Junior, Defensive Back, Battlefield
Garrett Collier, Senior, Punt Returner, Langley
Joe Rice, Senior, Punter, Fairfax
the All-Region team has been released.
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131211/SPORTS/131219680/1267/2013-all-region-football-selections&template=fairfaxTimes
Offensive Player of the Year: Caleb Henderson, Senior, Quarterback, Lake Braddock
Defensive Player of the Year: Chad Wiggins, Senior, Linebacker, Centreville
First-Team Offense
Josh Smith, Senior, Center, Centreville
Kainoa O’Conner, Junior, Offensive Line, Centreville
Brooks Norris, Senior, Offensive Line, Langley
Reece Burnett, Senior, Offensive Line, Lake Braddock
Kidus Woldeyes, Senior, Offensive Line, South County
AJ Turner, Junior, Running Back, Centreville
MJ Stewart, Senior, Running Back, Yorktown
Nick Scott, Senior, Running Back, Fairfax
Charles Tutt, Junior, Wideout, Centreville
AJ Alexander, Junior, Wideout, Lake Braddock
Quinton Reynolds, Senior, Wideout, Patriot
Caleb Henderson, Senior, Quarterback, Lake Braddock
AJ Turner, Junior, Kick Returner, Centreville
Cory Huddleston, Senior, Place Kicker, Lake Braddock
Greg Stroman, O-Utility/Athlete Player, Senior, Stonewall Jackson
First-Team Defense
Jordan Brooks, Junior, Defensive Line, Centreville
Jake Pinkston, Senior, Defensive Line, Robinson
Tim Settle, Junior, Defensive Line, Stonewall Jackson
Jeremiah Clark, Senior, Defensive Line, T.C. Williams
Chad Wiggins, Senior, Linebacker, Centreville
Tyler Love, Junior, Linebacker, Centreville
Malik Carney, Senior, Linebacker, T.C. Williams
Mikail Vinson, Senior, Linebacker, South County
AJ Turner, Junior, Defensive Back, Centreville
AJ Alexander, Junior, Defensive Back, Lake Braddock
MJ Stewart, Senior, Defensive Back, Yorktown
Charles Tutt, Junior, Defensive Back, Centreville
Raeshawn Smith, Senior, Punt Returner, Chantilly
John Magnusson, Senior, Punter, Westfield
Demornay Pierson-El, Senior, D-Utility/Athlete Player, West Potomac
Second-Team Offense
Alex Kolencik, Senior, Center, Langley
Brandon King, Senior, Offensive Line, Centreville
Aiden Elkhatib, Senior, Offensive Line, Robinson
Mike Peterson, Senior, Offensive Line, South County
Diandre Stubbs, Senior, Offensive Line, Stonewall Jackson
Trevor O’Brien, Senior, Running Back, Lake Braddock
Levaughn Davis, Senior, Running Back, South County
Tyler Thrasher-Walker, Senior, Running Back, Westfield
Malik Carney, Senior, Running Back, T.C. Williams
Nick Ferrari-Smith, Senior, Running Back, Patriot
Reggie Floyd, Sophomore, Running Back, Stonewall Jackson
Raeshawn Smith, Senior, Wideout, Chantilly
Garrett Collier, Senior, Wideout, Langley
Devon Burns, Senior, Wideout, Westfield
Scott Walter, Senior, Quarterback, Centreville
Greg Stroman, Senior, Quarterback, Stonewall Jackson
Demornay Pierson-El, Senior, Kick Returner, West Potomac
Eric Rondeau, Junior, Place Kicker, Centreville
Second-Team Defense
Reece Burnett, Senior, Defensive Line, Lake Braddock
Ethan Clark, Senior, Defensive Line, South Lakes
Diandre Stubbs, Senior, Defensive Line, Stonewall Jackson
Chase Koon, Senior, Defensive Line, Westfield
Kevin Hankton, Senior, Linebacker, Lake Braddock
George Asante, Senior, Linebacker, Hayfield
Jamel Jimmerson, Senior, Linebacker, Stonewall Jackson
Chase Richardson, Senior, Linebacker, Battlefield
James Gibson, Junior, Defensive Back, Westfield
Demornay Pierson-El, Senior, Defensive Back, West Potomac
Mileek Burns, Junior, Defensive Back, Fairfax
Corey Parker, Junior, Defensive Back, Battlefield
Garrett Collier, Senior, Punt Returner, Langley
Joe Rice, Senior, Punter, Fairfax
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 12, 2013 08:26AM
Nova Fan Wrote:
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> What an impressive Freshman QB OS has in Shon
> Mitchell. Around 25 TDs and only 2 interceptions
> all year. I also noticed on short yardage
> situations they line up in a power I and have
> their GPOY Tackle Brown line up in the backfield
> and lead the RB. Their Defense is also very fast
> an athletic. I can see why no one has scored more
> than 14 on them all year giving up only 4.8 points
> a game. I can't see centreville scoring more than
> 14. I think the final will be OS winning 21 to
> 14.
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Great points. Smith's O is tough on Ds because one play you're facing a power formation and the next you see spread. It will run from almost any formation and will do that all day. If anybody can stop it, it's CV's D. That D has seen a variety of Os, e.g., SoCo's option, Westfield's power game and WL's passing with Appel. On O, CV will face a big DL and speed at LB and DB. I think you go with quick and varied snap counts all day, you see if Smith can stop #23 on naked screens, you decoy #23 on other plays, throw on a few first downs, and you make Smith play the whole field. I see a close game!
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> What an impressive Freshman QB OS has in Shon
> Mitchell. Around 25 TDs and only 2 interceptions
> all year. I also noticed on short yardage
> situations they line up in a power I and have
> their GPOY Tackle Brown line up in the backfield
> and lead the RB. Their Defense is also very fast
> an athletic. I can see why no one has scored more
> than 14 on them all year giving up only 4.8 points
> a game. I can't see centreville scoring more than
> 14. I think the final will be OS winning 21 to
> 14.
-------
Great points. Smith's O is tough on Ds because one play you're facing a power formation and the next you see spread. It will run from almost any formation and will do that all day. If anybody can stop it, it's CV's D. That D has seen a variety of Os, e.g., SoCo's option, Westfield's power game and WL's passing with Appel. On O, CV will face a big DL and speed at LB and DB. I think you go with quick and varied snap counts all day, you see if Smith can stop #23 on naked screens, you decoy #23 on other plays, throw on a few first downs, and you make Smith play the whole field. I see a close game!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 12, 2013 09:12AM
@ EasternVAfan...You can't really compare a team from the very firt opening game of the season with a not yet broken in freshman QB, to a team that had a few games under their belts when they played against Westfield the first time during the regular season. And where did you get the grand total of 24 ponts in their last two games from? In the first of the last two games they beat their opponet 41-7 so I don't understand your calculatios. Please let us all know what type of calculater, or mobile phone you have so that we know not to purchase one because it's not adding numbers correctly lol. Just a little beach area humor, no disrespect intended at all my friend. I respect your post!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVA Fan
()
Date: December 12, 2013 10:51AM
Oscar F Smith very impressive season
9-6 Lake Taylor W 42-2
9-14 Indian River W 61-0
9-20 Western Branch W 27-14
9-27 Lakeland W 56-6
10-4 Deep Creek W 70-6
10-14 Nansemond River W 48-7
10-18 Grassfield W 42-0
10-25 Kings Fork W 62-12
11-1 Great Bridge W 35-0
11-8 Hickory W 60-7
11-15 Bayside W 35-0
11-23 Grassfield W 41-7
11-30 Forest Park W 40-7
12-7 Colonial Forge W 17-0
AVG (45.4 PF/Gm); Defense allowed only 68 PA (4.8 PA/Gm)
Centreville scores are on Washington post all met sports
9-6 Lake Taylor W 42-2
9-14 Indian River W 61-0
9-20 Western Branch W 27-14
9-27 Lakeland W 56-6
10-4 Deep Creek W 70-6
10-14 Nansemond River W 48-7
10-18 Grassfield W 42-0
10-25 Kings Fork W 62-12
11-1 Great Bridge W 35-0
11-8 Hickory W 60-7
11-15 Bayside W 35-0
11-23 Grassfield W 41-7
11-30 Forest Park W 40-7
12-7 Colonial Forge W 17-0
AVG (45.4 PF/Gm); Defense allowed only 68 PA (4.8 PA/Gm)
Centreville scores are on Washington post all met sports
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 12, 2013 12:08PM
@ EasternVafan..Just realized that your statement about the total of 24 pts in Smith's last game must have been a typo. Now I'm thinking that you must have meant to say that Smith only allowed 24 points in the last two games because that was the total of points allowed by them in regards to the last two opponents. Turns out you don't need a new phone or calculater after all lol..I take all of that back. Any of you guys going to the game at UVA? Soft pretzel and hot cocoa on me fellas!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 12, 2013 12:57PM
DeeCoVA Wrote:
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> @ EasternVAfan...You can't really compare a team
> from the very firt opening game of the season with
> a not yet broken in freshman QB, to a team that
> had a few games under their belts when they played
> against Westfield the first time during the
> regular season. And where did you get the grand
> total of 24 ponts in their last two games from? In
> the first of the last two games they beat their
> opponet 41-7 so I don't understand your
> calculatios. Please let us all know what type of
> calculater, or mobile phone you have so that we
> know not to purchase one because it's not adding
> numbers correctly lol. Just a little beach area
> humor, no disrespect intended at all my friend. I
> respect your post!
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I totally appreciate the humor you used to make the point. Now that I live here, my math skills have declined, ha, ha, ha, ha. As for Sat, Smith’s young QB was already making plays in the opener. With receivers like #4 around, a read and react scheme isn’t likely to work as well as it did vs. Westfield. Instead, maybe try to disrupt—blitz and gamble that your DBs can cover deep and wide. In CV-Westfield #2, it was hard to tell much about CV’s DBs because WF didn’t throw much. CV’s D looks like it has more speed vs. 2011. Am hoping for a good game between the top 2 D6s in VA; look forward to seeing what CV does to move the ball. Should be a good game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2013 01:00PM by EasternVaFan.
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> @ EasternVAfan...You can't really compare a team
> from the very firt opening game of the season with
> a not yet broken in freshman QB, to a team that
> had a few games under their belts when they played
> against Westfield the first time during the
> regular season. And where did you get the grand
> total of 24 ponts in their last two games from? In
> the first of the last two games they beat their
> opponet 41-7 so I don't understand your
> calculatios. Please let us all know what type of
> calculater, or mobile phone you have so that we
> know not to purchase one because it's not adding
> numbers correctly lol. Just a little beach area
> humor, no disrespect intended at all my friend. I
> respect your post!
````````
---------------------
I totally appreciate the humor you used to make the point. Now that I live here, my math skills have declined, ha, ha, ha, ha. As for Sat, Smith’s young QB was already making plays in the opener. With receivers like #4 around, a read and react scheme isn’t likely to work as well as it did vs. Westfield. Instead, maybe try to disrupt—blitz and gamble that your DBs can cover deep and wide. In CV-Westfield #2, it was hard to tell much about CV’s DBs because WF didn’t throw much. CV’s D looks like it has more speed vs. 2011. Am hoping for a good game between the top 2 D6s in VA; look forward to seeing what CV does to move the ball. Should be a good game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2013 01:00PM by EasternVaFan.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
CatDad
()
Date: December 12, 2013 01:07PM
Don't know if anyone visits the VHSL-Reference site that Hutchinson maintains. Always love to see massive statistics for all teams.
Anyway, he has a simulator which I have tried out during the playoffs, and its been pretty good - especially on spreads. You can find it here:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/simulater1.cfm
So running the OS/Cville game(after averaging 10 iterations) I get Cville over OS 24-17.
As a comparison, I ran the 2013 Cville team against the 2011 OS team and got Cville averaging 23-19 over OS. Finally the 2011 Cville team against the 2013 OS team and got Cville averaging 22-20 over OS.
My conclusions, based purely on stats and Hutchinsons' simulator would be:
These teams will have a close game Saturday- with Cville having the edge.
C'ville is much better than they were in 2011
OS is weaker than they were in 2011
Anyway, he has a simulator which I have tried out during the playoffs, and its been pretty good - especially on spreads. You can find it here:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/simulater1.cfm
So running the OS/Cville game(after averaging 10 iterations) I get Cville over OS 24-17.
As a comparison, I ran the 2013 Cville team against the 2011 OS team and got Cville averaging 23-19 over OS. Finally the 2011 Cville team against the 2013 OS team and got Cville averaging 22-20 over OS.
My conclusions, based purely on stats and Hutchinsons' simulator would be:
These teams will have a close game Saturday- with Cville having the edge.
C'ville is much better than they were in 2011
OS is weaker than they were in 2011
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
cvillebacker
()
Date: December 12, 2013 01:43PM
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by: cvillebacker ()
Date: December 03, 2012 10:03AM
2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats, write it down right now. They return most of the significant players from this year and will win the Region and State Championship. As time goes on and we get in to the season the individual players can be discussed.
Just remember where you heard it first, when this thread is on the 10th page look back here.
There it is over a year ago when I nailed it! CENTREVILLE WILDCATS...
All that is left is to win The States and I am a freaking genius. The only thing I missed on is the thread is at 25 pages not 10...
Posted by: cvillebacker ()
Date: December 03, 2012 10:03AM
2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats, write it down right now. They return most of the significant players from this year and will win the Region and State Championship. As time goes on and we get in to the season the individual players can be discussed.
Just remember where you heard it first, when this thread is on the 10th page look back here.
There it is over a year ago when I nailed it! CENTREVILLE WILDCATS...
All that is left is to win The States and I am a freaking genius. The only thing I missed on is the thread is at 25 pages not 10...
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 12, 2013 01:46PM
I've got to agree with CatDad, that site is usually quite good with their mathematical predictions. I expect to see a close Centreville win, but I have never seen Oscar Smith play. See you all Saturday!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
DeeCoVA
()
Date: December 12, 2013 02:14PM
@CatDad... Does that simulator also factor in the fact that all of the other teams that C-Vill played in the regular season in the northern region may not be as strong as they were in 2011 as compared to the 2013 teams in the region? Of course that goes both ways in regards to being able to compare both teams vs 2011 teams. I don't see how any team could be weaker if they still defeat opponents with just about the same point average per game, and have the same 14-0 record that they had going into the state championship in 2011. My point there is more that needs to be considered; but I know that this is just the results that you received from the simulator and not your personal prediction. looking forward to seeing a great game from c-ville from what I have seen from film have a pretty talented team. @EasternVaFan...I agree with your post...I can tell you've been around alot of football in your life. Come on back home to the southeast, we could use a good football mind like yours some where. I'm thinking that maybe you can become a recruiter for us and get us some of the studs they have at c-ville. I have a target list for you, #23 #24 #2 #4 and that big 7 foot Offensive lineman...That's sarcasim for those who are ready to say "I knew they were cheaters"! Those are good looking players though for waht I see. Nothing but respect for the north programs.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cat Dad
()
Date: December 12, 2013 02:22PM
DeeCoVA, I don't really have an answer for you on the what drives that simulator - maybe someone else out here knows. I ran those other games precisely to see whether one could get a sense of relative strength against a past teams, but you're right that not knowing how those opponents performed must be factored in.
As for recruiting for the 'enemy' I'll have to beg off, despite being a VaBeach native myself. These WildCats grow on you. Great group of boys and families. I hope they can take the bacon home this year.
As for recruiting for the 'enemy' I'll have to beg off, despite being a VaBeach native myself. These WildCats grow on you. Great group of boys and families. I hope they can take the bacon home this year.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Hooligan757
()
Date: December 12, 2013 07:36PM
I have followed the Oscar Smith program closely for the past 10 years. I attended the 2008 and 2010 state championship games they played in as well as probably (0% of the games they have played in the past 10 years.
In my opinion, offensively the current team is not as good as their 2007 and 2008 teams, defensively the current team is much better. I believe that the current time is better both offensively and defensively than the 2011 team that Centreville played.
Keep in mind that the starting offense has not allowed any opponent's offense to score a single point since the first quarter of week six of the regular season. There are 11 good players on their defense.
I don't think that the weather will be Centreville's friend in this game. It will limit their offense against a really good defense. I think that the weather will have a greater impact on the fans in the stands than the players on the field.
I am looking forward to a great game. See you there. Good luck and dress warmly.
In my opinion, offensively the current team is not as good as their 2007 and 2008 teams, defensively the current team is much better. I believe that the current time is better both offensively and defensively than the 2011 team that Centreville played.
Keep in mind that the starting offense has not allowed any opponent's offense to score a single point since the first quarter of week six of the regular season. There are 11 good players on their defense.
I don't think that the weather will be Centreville's friend in this game. It will limit their offense against a really good defense. I think that the weather will have a greater impact on the fans in the stands than the players on the field.
I am looking forward to a great game. See you there. Good luck and dress warmly.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
EasternVaFan
()
Date: December 12, 2013 07:36PM
cvillebacker Wrote:
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> Re: Highschool Football 2013
>
> Posted by: cvillebacker ()
>
> Date: December 03, 2012 10:03AM
>
>
> 2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats,
> write it down right now. They return most of the
> significant players from this year and will win
> the Region and State Championship. As time goes on
> and we get in to the season the individual players
> can be discussed.
>
> Just remember where you heard it first, when this
> thread is on the 10th page look back here.
>
>
> There it is over a year ago when I nailed it!
> CENTREVILLE WILDCATS...
>
> All that is left is to win The States and I am a
> freaking genius. The only thing I missed on is
> the thread is at 25 pages not 10...
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Impressive prediction given the subsequent rise of LB, the test vs. SoCo's O, and having to beat WF twice. In 2012, when CV struggled to beat Hayfield in OT and also MTV, I had my doubts. You called it--well done.
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> Re: Highschool Football 2013
>
> Posted by: cvillebacker ()
>
> Date: December 03, 2012 10:03AM
>
>
> 2013 will be the year of the Centreville Wildcats,
> write it down right now. They return most of the
> significant players from this year and will win
> the Region and State Championship. As time goes on
> and we get in to the season the individual players
> can be discussed.
>
> Just remember where you heard it first, when this
> thread is on the 10th page look back here.
>
>
> There it is over a year ago when I nailed it!
> CENTREVILLE WILDCATS...
>
> All that is left is to win The States and I am a
> freaking genius. The only thing I missed on is
> the thread is at 25 pages not 10...
-----------
Impressive prediction given the subsequent rise of LB, the test vs. SoCo's O, and having to beat WF twice. In 2012, when CV struggled to beat Hayfield in OT and also MTV, I had my doubts. You called it--well done.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
hsfballfan
()
Date: December 13, 2013 08:45AM
Go Wildcats, we are very proud of you!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Cat Mom
()
Date: December 13, 2013 09:18AM
Yep go Wildcats!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostradumbass
()
Date: December 13, 2013 09:32AM
Oscar Smith 27 Centreville 12
L.C. Byrd 34 Briar Woods 13
L.C. Byrd 34 Briar Woods 13
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Interesting
()
Date: December 13, 2013 09:55AM
Heading to UVA in about 24 hours!
Centreville 17 Oscar Smith 14
Mud, rain, and defenses are going to keep the scores low.
Go Cats!
Centreville 17 Oscar Smith 14
Mud, rain, and defenses are going to keep the scores low.
Go Cats!
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
nat4lee
()
Date: December 13, 2013 10:26AM
My prediction in tomorrow's awful weather:
6A Title: Centreville 21, Oscar Smith 17
5A Title: Lloyd C. Bird 21, Briar Woods 20
6A Title: Centreville 21, Oscar Smith 17
5A Title: Lloyd C. Bird 21, Briar Woods 20
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostrasmartass
()
Date: December 13, 2013 10:30AM
Centreville 17 Oscar Smith 10
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
NOVA watcher
()
Date: December 13, 2013 10:44AM
Oscar Smith 42 Centreville 7
Oscar Smith is just that much better
Oscar Smith is just that much better
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Nostrasmartass
()
Date: December 13, 2013 10:54AM
As bullshit to the last post. Will be a big challenge and Centreville might come out on the short end but no way they lose 42-7. Go back to the beach you goofball.
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
mysteriomaco
()
Date: December 13, 2013 11:11AM
Big win brewing...
CVille 27 Oscar Smith 9
CVille 27 Oscar Smith 9
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: December 13, 2013 11:38AM
I can't wait till tomorrow's championship games, looking forward to seeing some top notch action. Unfortunately I have to work so I'll be watching them in my office on my computer. Won't be the same as being there but will certainly be nice being able to stay warm and dry!
Here's one thing I'd just like to bring up that I don't think I've seen discussed here. Not taking away anything from Oscar Smith, they have a ton of talent, D1 recruits on both side of the ball, and the Gatorade player of the year. Did anyone notice that during the regular season they played just two 6A teams, three 5A, and five 4A teams?
Once again, not taking anything away from OS but Centreville has gone 14-0 against 14 6A teams. I think that goes a long way in regard to being "battle" tested. No doubt OS has a tone of talent, so does Centreville, they also have a ton of depth. I think next year at this time we'll also be taking about all the D1 recruits that are on the Wildcat roster.
I only bring this point up because had Centreville played mainly division 4 & 5 schools they’re stats would probably look much better than they already do. Just food for thought, not taking anything away from the talent OS has.
Also, the whole beach vs. NOVA thing is growing tired, if I'm not mistaken Oscar Smith is the only beach school playing this championship weekend in any of the 6 title games. Does that mean maybe the other regions are catching up in the talent pool, could be.
Finally, being an avid local fan of high school football I have one question to ask. How did Westfield, the school with I think the 2nd best defense in the region come away with just 2 players, both second team, on the all northern region team?
Here's one thing I'd just like to bring up that I don't think I've seen discussed here. Not taking away anything from Oscar Smith, they have a ton of talent, D1 recruits on both side of the ball, and the Gatorade player of the year. Did anyone notice that during the regular season they played just two 6A teams, three 5A, and five 4A teams?
Once again, not taking anything away from OS but Centreville has gone 14-0 against 14 6A teams. I think that goes a long way in regard to being "battle" tested. No doubt OS has a tone of talent, so does Centreville, they also have a ton of depth. I think next year at this time we'll also be taking about all the D1 recruits that are on the Wildcat roster.
I only bring this point up because had Centreville played mainly division 4 & 5 schools they’re stats would probably look much better than they already do. Just food for thought, not taking anything away from the talent OS has.
Also, the whole beach vs. NOVA thing is growing tired, if I'm not mistaken Oscar Smith is the only beach school playing this championship weekend in any of the 6 title games. Does that mean maybe the other regions are catching up in the talent pool, could be.
Finally, being an avid local fan of high school football I have one question to ask. How did Westfield, the school with I think the 2nd best defense in the region come away with just 2 players, both second team, on the all northern region team?
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
Naf
()
Date: December 13, 2013 12:24PM
I agree other areas of VA catching up to 757 and 703
Re: Highschool Football 2013
Posted by:
novafootball13
()
Date: December 13, 2013 12:42PM
Who has Centreville played that made them battle tested???
Battle tested, I dont think so
Westfield: Had no offense
South County: Had no defense
Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson: Overall down year
Lake Braddock: DNP, but could not beat Westfield
The whole play of Northern Region football was way down this year, look at all of the lopsided scores. Maybe 2 teams were good, but not great, as per usual in the region. With the exception of South County, Centreville was never challenged. What will they do if challenged for 4 quarters? Hoepfully, we will find out on Saturday.
As far as if Centreville played against Div 4 and Div 5 do you think Centreville would want to play LC Byrd Briar Woods Lake Taylor Dinwiddie. I think those teams would give Centreville all they could handle and more. I wouldnt be bad mouthing those divisions.
I think it will be a very good game, a close game 21-20 OS
Battle tested, I dont think so
Westfield: Had no offense
South County: Had no defense
Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson: Overall down year
Lake Braddock: DNP, but could not beat Westfield
The whole play of Northern Region football was way down this year, look at all of the lopsided scores. Maybe 2 teams were good, but not great, as per usual in the region. With the exception of South County, Centreville was never challenged. What will they do if challenged for 4 quarters? Hoepfully, we will find out on Saturday.
As far as if Centreville played against Div 4 and Div 5 do you think Centreville would want to play LC Byrd Briar Woods Lake Taylor Dinwiddie. I think those teams would give Centreville all they could handle and more. I wouldnt be bad mouthing those divisions.
I think it will be a very good game, a close game 21-20 OS