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Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:10AM

So I park at the Metro lot at 1 PM on 1/3/06. I come home at 5:15 (I was on a half-day) to find a parking citation.

My state inspection expired on 12/31/06, or some 62 hours previously. And now I've got a ticket.

The greedy bastards want $40 for it and make it oh-so convenient for you to pay, even providing an envelope and a plastic baggie to make sure it doesn't get wet. What a scam. You just know they have hired out to a private company to increase their revenues.

So I'm planning to contest it as I immediately went to have my car inspected, waiting in line an hour and a half.

Problem is, I look on the ticket to see what Fairfax County Code I violated. It says 82-5-26(B), but that is listed as "Parking vehicles without proper license and registration on highways prohibited."

Possibly subsection B clarifies this, but I was clearly not parked on a highway. I was in a Metro lot. Big difference.

I can't find the exact code online and don't want to have to drive out to the government center.

Plus the website they list on the back to get further information about contesting it (www.fairfaxcounty.gov.dta) doesn't even work.

Anyone have any type of experience with this?

I have to file an affidavit to contest it and appear in court, but I'm willing to do it because it's such bullshit.

Jinxy

http://sonofclownops.blogspot.com

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: got the same ticket ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:21AM

Got the same ticket except it was for No County Decal. I was going to try to beat it but apparantly since the metro owners allow the police to come on to their property on a regular basis, they are allowed to give tickets as well. Happened to me at Fair Oaks Mall..which clearly isn't a highway. it's more of a parking lot.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:22AM

Mister Jinxy Wrote:
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> So I park at the Metro lot at 1 PM on 1/3/06. I
> come home at 5:15 (I was on a half-day) to find a
> parking citation.
>
> My state inspection expired on 12/31/06, or some
> 62 hours previously. And now I've got a ticket.
>
> The greedy bastards want $40 for it and make it
> oh-so convenient for you to pay, even providing an
> envelope and a plastic baggie to make sure it
> doesn't get wet. What a scam. You just know they
> have hired out to a private company to increase
> their revenues.
>
> So I'm planning to contest it as I immediately
> went to have my car inspected, waiting in line an
> hour and a half.
>
> Problem is, I look on the ticket to see what
> Fairfax County Code I violated. It says
> 82-5-26(B), but that is listed as "Parking
> vehicles without proper license and registration
> on highways prohibited."
>
> Possibly subsection B clarifies this, but I was
> clearly not parked on a highway. I was in a Metro
> lot. Big difference.
>
> I can't find the exact code online and don't want
> to have to drive out to the government center.
>
> Plus the website they list on the back to get
> further information about contesting it
> (www.fairfaxcounty.gov.dta) doesn't even work.
>
> Anyone have any type of experience with this?
>
> I have to file an affidavit to contest it and
> appear in court, but I'm willing to do it because
> it's such bullshit.
>
> Jinxy
>
>
>


Gee. Maybe next time you should get your inspection done on time. Seems like it would be a lot less hassle than what you are going through now.

The only one full of bullshit is you.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:45AM

Perhaps you can contest it in writing? I did that with a recent DC ticket and haven't heard back from them. Not sure of the outcome yet.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Jim ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:48AM

Well, if your state inspection expires on 12/31/06 then I would definitely say you should fight the ticket!

If it expired on 12/31/05 sounds like its your fault then. What is it with people? You sit there and stare at this bright yellow sticker on your dashboard ALL YEAR LONG and still let it expire. Then, when you get a ticket you so richly deserve you want MORE time to take care of it because its "not fair."

Is this how you pay your bills? Your mortgage? If it is I would hate to read your credit report because they aren't going to give you much of this "grace period" you think you deserve either! Thats how things are in life, its either late or its on time. In this case your inspection is either expired or its not expired. There is no "grace period."

I've got news for you, you had 12 months to take care of it and you failed. It's your fault you are delinquent, not Fairfax County's and not Metro's. And just because it says 12/05 that doesn't mean you HAD to have it re-inspected in December, only that it expired on the last day of that month. If December was a particularly busy month for you it could have been taken care of in November if necessary.

Suck it up, pay the ticket, assume some responsibilty in your personal life, and learn from your experiences.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: BR ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:57AM

Your reg. was still expired, regardless of whether you parked on a "highway" or not, and that's what you got ticketed for. That's what's going to work against you.


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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 04, 2006 12:06PM

note to self: check car stickers today.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 12:15PM

What a bunch of jackbooted, lockstepping little titty babies you all are.

The Third Recih would have had fun with you.

Look, I'm fully aware NOW that the inspection was expired. But no, I don't spend all my time while driving staring at the inspection sticker. I have better things to do.

Like drive.

Besides, the mortgage company sends me a bill in the mail reminding me to that it's due, jackass. Guess you don't have a whole lot going on with your life than waiting around and looking at the calander waiting to give Fairfax County more of your money.

The fact of the matter is that this is an opportunistic money grubbing scheme by Fairfax County to increase revenues at the expense of their citizens.

Why the Hell else did they hire out a private company to do it for them that won't even tell me what the name of their company is when I call them?

What exactly did I do that was so horribly wrong as to cost me $40?

I didn't have my vehicle looked at for ten minutes in a filing station.

How horrible.

You people seem to think that just because some minimum wage making meter maid issues you a ticket, that you are obliged to just bend over and take it.

Let me tell you something: Everytime I've gone to court for a speeding ticket or for some petty bureaucratic bullshit like this and contested it, I've always come out better than if I just took it in the ass like a bitch like you people.

So yeah, I was wrong to not get my vehicle inspected, but the County relies upon choages like you to keep filling their coffers and not standing up for yourself when they do stuff like this.

So keep on taking it in the pooper. Me? I'll fight it. And even if I lose, I'll still know that my place in the inter-galactic scheme of things does not reside with the weak and worthless punks who suck it up from The Man whenever he says "Boo".

And to whoever supplied the definition for "highway", thanks. I knew it was a stretch, but you try everything you can.

I'm sure I can persuade the judge to see it my way when I talk to him.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 12:23PM

Mister Jinxy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> What a bunch of jackbooted, lockstepping little
> titty babies you all are.
>
> The Third Recih would have had fun with you.
>
> Look, I'm fully aware NOW that the inspection was
> expired. But no, I don't spend all my time while
> driving staring at the inspection sticker. I have
> better things to do.
>
> Like drive.
>
> Besides, the mortgage company sends me a bill in
> the mail reminding me to that it's due, jackass.
> Guess you don't have a whole lot going on with
> your life than waiting around and looking at the
> calander waiting to give Fairfax County more of
> your money.
>
> The fact of the matter is that this is an
> opportunistic money grubbing scheme by Fairfax
> County to increase revenues at the expense of
> their citizens.
>
> Why the Hell else did they hire out a private
> company to do it for them that won't even tell me
> what the name of their company is when I call
> them?
>
> What exactly did I do that was so horribly wrong
> as to cost me $40?
>
> I didn't have my vehicle looked at for ten minutes
> in a filing station.
>
> How horrible.
>
> You people seem to think that just because some
> minimum wage making meter maid issues you a
> ticket, that you are obliged to just bend over and
> take it.
>
> Let me tell you something: Everytime I've gone to
> court for a speeding ticket or for some petty
> bureaucratic bullshit like this and contested it,
> I've always come out better than if I just took it
> in the ass like a bitch like you people.
>
> So yeah, I was wrong to not get my vehicle
> inspected, but the County relies upon choages like
> you to keep filling their coffers and not standing
> up for yourself when they do stuff like this.
>
> So keep on taking it in the pooper. Me? I'll fight
> it. And even if I lose, I'll still know that my
> place in the inter-galactic scheme of things does
> not reside with the weak and worthless punks who
> suck it up from The Man whenever he says "Boo".
>
> And to whoever supplied the definition for
> "highway", thanks. I knew it was a stretch, but
> you try everything you can.
>
> I'm sure I can persuade the judge to see it my way
> when I talk to him.


What "scheme?" It's the friggin' law! Not understanding it doesn't make you immune from it. You can spend your day at court if you want to. I'm sure the judge will tell you exactly what everyone on this board has - you are at fault. With any luck he will tack on a court fee on top of it because you are being a dick.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 12:27PM

MF-er,

You understand nothing.

Be sure to make your Brown Shirt extra starchy for the Party meeting.

J.


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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 04, 2006 12:30PM

actually, as long as you get the inspection and come to court with proof(reciept), they dismiss the case, like alwasys.

Mister Jinxy,
  get the inspection, take the reciept to court, tell/show the judge, go home happy. it's really that simple. ive seen it happen many times... i love traffic court (not really, of coarse). :P


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 04, 2006 12:44PM

Almost any time you go to court in person for a sticker violation, and show compliance, the charge is dismissed.

I've had it happen to me MANY times. Of course, I'm usually showing up for something else, as well, that does NOT get dismissed or gets continued, but those sticker charges are gone by the time that stuff goes down.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 01:08PM

So how many hours do you plan to spend on this for a $40 ticket? Four hours? Five? You mean to tell me that your time is worth about $10 an hour?

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 04, 2006 01:13PM

court does not take that long.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 01:14PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> court does not take that long.
>
> unfairfax adaptivetime com
>
> As of 11/15/05 13:44
> My Linux uptime: 65 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes
> Your Windows uptime: pushing two hours


I wouldn't know. I get my inspections done on time.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Genevieve ()
Date: January 04, 2006 01:28PM

Yeah, I once got a ticket because my new registration stickers hadn't arrived yet and I forgot to keep a copy of the web transaction in my car. I brought proof that I had in fact renewed on time to court, but never had to present it. The judge simply asked if I was currently in compliance and I showed the officer the registration card. Our conversation was so short that the fact that I had renewed on time never even came up.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 01:34PM

Thanks. That's what I suspected.

I immediately went to my local service station, waited in line for 1 1/2 hours, and got my car inspected right after I got the ticket.

And it is worth my time to go to court for the sheer principal of the thing.

I once got issued a ticket by a Virginia State Police officer while driving a company vehicle on 3/1 at 12 noon. The inspection expired on midnight 2/28.

I went to court and won that one as well.

And don't get me wrong, I'm all about obeying the law. But the law must be reasonable and to take into account mitigating circumstances. And that's what judges are there to decide.

And I've already penciled in for next year when my inspection is due so that it doesn't happen again.

J.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 01:41PM


>
> I once got issued a ticket by a Virginia State
> Police officer while driving a company vehicle on
> 3/1 at 12 noon. The inspection expired on midnight
> 2/28.
>
> I went to court and won that one as well.
>
> And I've already penciled in for next year when my
> inspection is due so that it doesn't happen
> again.
>
> J.


From your story it appears you didn't learn your lesson the first time. I doubt you will learn it this time.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Jim ()
Date: January 04, 2006 02:30PM

Mister Jinxy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

>
> I went to court and won that one as well.
>


Well, actually you didn't "win" anything. You had to go to court and the state still "won" because you complied with law. Just because a case is dismissed as complied with law that doesn't mean you "won" anything.

And as to your earlier message, when did Nazi Germany become involved in your ignorance?

That's such a favorite tactic of liberals to resort to name calling and bring up Hitler and Nazis whenever the government enforces a law upon them.

If you fancy living in a society where there are no laws to be enforced perhaps you should move to one of those progressive countries where its every man for himself. Until then, I'll be happy to live in a country where we do have law and order and, even though I may not like taxes, I'll pay them to ensure the continuity of life as I know it.


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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 02:46PM

Jim Wrote:
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> Mister Jinxy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > I went to court and won that one as well.
> >
>
>
> Well, actually you didn't "win" anything. You had
> to go to court and the state still "won" because
> you complied with law. Just because a case is
> dismissed as complied with law that doesn't mean
> you "won" anything.
>
> And as to your earlier message, when did Nazi
> Germany become involved in your ignorance?
>
> That's such a favorite tactic of liberals to
> resort to name calling and bring up Hitler and
> Nazis whenever the government enforces a law upon
> them.
>
> If you fancy living in a society where there are
> no laws to be enforced perhaps you should move to
> one of those progressive countries where its every
> man for himself. Until then, I'll be happy to
> live in a country where we do have law and order
> and, even though I may not like taxes, I'll pay
> them to ensure the continuity of life as I know
> it.
>
>
I think Jinxy is too stupid to be a liberal. I think he is a Libertarian. He believes the government should stay out of our lives entirely. Until he needs it. Then it's, "where the fuck were you?"

Anyone who creates his own fucking problems and then bitches about how unfair the world is is a fucking idiot.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 04:13PM

Go polish your Hitler Jugend knife, Fairfax MF_er.

You guys couldn't hold my jock.

I bring Nazi Germany up to point out the fact that it seems as though so many of you sheep out there are willing to roll over and take it in the ass just because The Man says so, being completely ignorant of the fact that there exists an independant judiciary in our country that has been designated to adjudicate such matters.

And I'm not accusing you of being an actual Nazi. I'm accusing you of being so ignorant and easily maleable that you would easily comply with whatever some figure of authority said just because they were wearing a uniform and they told you it was so.

And worst of all, it appears as if you'd sell out for somebody as low on the totem pole as A FUCKING METER-MAID!

What a little bitch.

Regards,

J.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 04:21PM

I'm a horrible speller:

Independent.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: AUA ()
Date: January 04, 2006 04:30PM

BWAHAHAHA! Man, I gotta move to Virginny and start selling snake oil. You guys are great.

Cheers,
-AUA

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: BR ()
Date: January 04, 2006 04:37PM

"I once got issued a ticket by a Virginia State Police officer while driving a company vehicle on 3/1 at 12 noon. The inspection expired on midnight 2/28. I went to court and won that one as well."

Did you own the company or something?

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 04:38PM

Mister Jinxy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Go polish your Hitler Jugend knife, Fairfax
> MF_er.
>
> You guys couldn't hold my jock.
>
> I bring Nazi Germany up to point out the fact that
> it seems as though so many of you sheep out there
> are willing to roll over and take it in the ass
> just because The Man says so, being completely
> ignorant of the fact that there exists an
> independant judiciary in our country that has been
> designated to adjudicate such matters.
>
> And I'm not accusing you of being an actual Nazi.
> I'm accusing you of being so ignorant and easily
> maleable that you would easily comply with
> whatever some figure of authority said just
> because they were wearing a uniform and they told
> you it was so.
>
> And worst of all, it appears as if you'd sell out
> for somebody as low on the totem pole as A FUCKING
> METER-MAID!
>
> What a little bitch.
>
> Regards,
>
> J.


I think the Nazi reference has more to do with the fact that your life is in such disarray that you can't figure out how to get your fucking safety inspection done. Instead of taking responsibility for your own mistake you compare Fairfax County government to the greatest genocidal regime in the history of mankind. I would hate to see what you would compare it to if you got a speeding ticket.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 05:12PM

No. I just compare you to a bootlicking little stooge.

Now go away.

Adults are talking here.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Mister Jinxy ()
Date: January 04, 2006 05:12PM

And Mao and Stalin killed more people than the Nazis, idiot.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: ComicRelief ()
Date: January 04, 2006 06:26PM

Pay the registration online at dmvnow.com. Takes less than 5 minutes for the computer retarded and less if you know how to actually follow directions. You print the little receipt at the end and wait about a week and get your new registration in the mail along with the stickers. When you actually receive it, take note that the renewal date will say 12/31/05 and take it to court and tell the judge that who ever wrote the ticket must be on crack because your registration was current at the time. ~THE END~

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 04, 2006 07:05PM

Mister Jinxy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And Mao and Stalin killed more people than the
> Nazis, idiot.


Mao and Stalin didn't commit genocide, dumbass. Read a fucking post and understand it before you respond, moron.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: WashingToneLoc-ian ()
Date: January 04, 2006 07:48PM

Mister Jinxy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

>
> I bring Nazi Germany up to point out the fact that
> it seems as though so many of you sheep out there
> are willing to roll over and take it in the ass
> just because The Man says so, yadda, yadda, yadda...


I kind of wish the Fairfax County Government was a bunch of Nazis. Then they would have gassed your tired ass by now.


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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Me ()
Date: January 04, 2006 10:47PM

Also - you mention that a private company is contracted out to do the parking tickets. The only thing that the private company does is the processing of the tickets. Fairfax County Traffic Enforcement Officers (not cops, but close) are the ones who actually issue the citations.

Might want to do a bit of research next time before you jump to conclusions.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 05, 2006 07:31AM

Mister Jinxy,

I bring Nazi Germany up to point out the fact that
it seems as though so many of you sheep out there
are willing to roll over and take it in the ass
just because The Man says so, being completely
ignorant of the fact that there exists an
independant judiciary in our country that has been
designated to adjudicate such matters.

oh yes, and those courts are oh so sympathetic with everyones problems and always fair.


And I'm not accusing you of being an actual Nazi.
I'm accusing you of being so ignorant and easily
maleable that you would easily comply with
whatever some figure of authority said just
because they were wearing a uniform and they told
you it was so.

unfortunately, the situation is that if it is part of the government and it is under law that you have no other recoarse, you cant just say "no." to them. try telling the IRS that you dont want to pay taxes anymore.


And worst of all, it appears as if you'd sell out
for somebody as low on the totem pole as A FUCKING
METER-MAID!

it's not selling out if you dont have a choice.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: hah! ()
Date: January 05, 2006 11:45AM

"unfortunately, the situation is that if it is part of the government and it is under law that you have no other recoarse, you cant just say "no." to them. try telling the IRS that you dont want to pay taxes anymore."

'Turn in your neighbors!'
Well, they're the Government, I guess it's okay.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Dachaulover ()
Date: January 05, 2006 12:03PM

I think Mr. Jinxy would make a lovely skin lamp

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 05, 2006 12:05PM

Dachaulover Wrote:
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> I think Mr. Jinxy would make a lovely skin lamp


You are right. His skin is pretty thin.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: bizkit ()
Date: January 05, 2006 03:54PM

Come on now, kiddies ... yes it's a bunch of crap to get a ticket when your stuff is 3 days out of date but let's leave the Nazi's out of this. When they start gassing scofflaws, give me a call.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 05, 2006 04:31PM

bizkit,
  well, they did gas my cat for overdue payment... but then again, that was blockbuster.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: Andrew ()
Date: June 28, 2011 11:43PM

I think that all of you guys are too radical about things.

On principle, contest it if you feel that you were wronged or make the payment if you have a conscience about the ticket.

OR being more economically-minded,

Contest it if you are in a tight spot financially, and then learn from your mistake--or if $40 is just a drop in the bucket, pay it online (...and then learn from your mistake).

We're not Nazis and nobody here deserves to be skinned or gassed. The purpose of this thread, I assumed, was just to figure out what you can and cannot get away with; there's nothing at all wrong with that, because laws were never meant to be absolute. Stick to your guns and put a feather in your cap for either being a loyal citizen, or nobody's biotch.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: GreatJobDouche ()
Date: June 28, 2011 11:45PM

Good job on adding your 2 cents 5 years later.

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: dika-dika ()
Date: June 29, 2011 05:28AM

GreatJobDouche Wrote:
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> Good job on adding your 2 cents 5 years later.


ROFLMAO

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: June 29, 2011 06:29PM

PaperPusher Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Perhaps you can contest it in writing? I did that
> with a recent DC ticket and haven't heard back
> from them. Not sure of the outcome yet.


Years ago we had to go and spend an entire day down in D.C. to contest a ticket, but in the end we had to go home and do it in writing, because the court was absolutely jam packed. We won.

==================================================================================================
"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: June 29, 2011 06:30PM

dika-dika Wrote:
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> GreatJobDouche Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Good job on adding your 2 cents 5 years later.
>
>
> ROFLMAO


Lol, holy crap, it appeared out of nowhere.

==================================================================================================
"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Parking Citation Bullshit
Posted by: seanatwork ()
Date: June 30, 2011 03:17AM

This county is all about raking in the money aka theft. I just moved to Reston from Sterling recently and my roomie has three parking tickets within a 3 week period. All from the same "officer". There are brush covering all the signs so I hope you spend time walking up and down where you park looking for bust stop /no parking etc. signs. Oh and also they let cops kill people left http://goo.gl/3Uy6a and right http://goo.gl/UhXIt.

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