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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:26AM

You just beat me to it Blanche.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Old Iron ()
Date: November 18, 2017 09:12AM

Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> This is supposed to be a old picture of Fairfax
> but I'm not sure where. Maybe pickett? Or route 1
> ? Help me out Fairfaxians of old.


I would guess the date is in the mid to late 1970's. If someone could make out the movie on the theater sign, we could get a more specific date.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: 09q34t0=9ih ()
Date: November 18, 2017 09:53AM

Old Iron Wrote:
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> Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> > This is supposed to be a old picture of Fairfax
> > but I'm not sure where. Maybe pickett? Or route
> 1
> > ? Help me out Fairfaxians of old.
>
>
> I would guess the date is in the mid to late
> 1970's. If someone could make out the movie on the
> theater sign, we could get a more specific date.


I used to race my BMX bike at Stalit raceway - It was open roughly between 1979 and 1982.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: November 18, 2017 11:19AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKAUkDCz6YA

Not a photo, but a cool video comparing the drive up 395 (Shirley Hwy) between Edsall Rd and Seminary Rd. 1949 vs. 2014

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Mike_Hunt ()
Date: November 18, 2017 11:33AM

phelpsmarc Wrote:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKAUkDCz6YA
>
> Not a photo, but a cool video comparing the drive
> up 395 (Shirley Hwy) between Edsall Rd and
> Seminary Rd. 1949 vs. 2014

Okayyyy ~ THAT was incredible !

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: November 18, 2017 11:47AM

I know. Somebody tipped me off that there was such a video and I just found it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2017 11:50AM by phelpsmarc.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: thread patrol ()
Date: November 18, 2017 12:03PM

phelpsmarc Wrote:
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> I know. Somebody tipped me off that there was such
> a video and I just found it.


It was already posted over a year ago.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Karen ()
Date: November 18, 2017 12:10PM

Who can guess where this is/was?
hint: off route 50.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: November 18, 2017 12:14PM

Past Times Wrote:
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> I grew up in the Mt. Vernon/Woodlawn area and
> played for years in/at Dogue Creek & the
> surrounding woods ~ I knew it was named for
> Indians, but here's some detail..
>
> (it's dated 2003 and that's about the last time I
> was there..)
> .
> .
>
> The second picture is a prototype for the
> 7-Corners Woodward & Lothrop..
>
> .
>
> .

I may have known you or someone in your family. I grew up right next to Dogue Creek - at the end of Buckner Rd, next the 15th fairway of Woodlawn Country Club Golf Course.

You say you left in the area in the early 2000s. The Woodlawn Stables, which were right behind the Dogue Creek sign you posted, are gone and Rt 1 runs right through the former stables property. It is a trip driving through there as it goes behind Woodlwawn Baptist church instead of in front of it.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Sleepy Holla ()
Date: November 18, 2017 12:34PM

Karen Wrote:
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> Who can guess where this is/was?
> hint: off route 50.


Karen, The little shopping area across from Loehmann's?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Emtdl ()
Date: November 18, 2017 12:44PM

Sleepy Holla Wrote:
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> Karen Wrote:
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> > Who can guess where this is/was?
> > hint: off route 50.
>
>
> Karen, The little shopping area across from
> Loehmann's?


The first one, maybe. But the second one is on Annandale Rd, isn't it? The old Jefferson Theater?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: blanche ()
Date: November 18, 2017 12:45PM

Its the shopping center at the corner of 50 and Annandale Road before the wing with the 31 flavors and the Jefferson Theatre (now Goodwill) was built.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Karen ()
Date: November 18, 2017 01:00PM

You guys know you're old fairfax pics allright!

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Andy Ratlips ()
Date: November 18, 2017 01:44PM

Another shot of Bernies from Nora Herring Bustle's family photos. 47 years ago!
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Andy Ratlips ()
Date: November 18, 2017 03:35PM

And another one posted on facebook.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 18, 2017 04:04PM

phelpsmarc Wrote:
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> Past Times Wrote:
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> > I grew up in the Mt. Vernon/Woodlawn area and
> > played for years in/at Dogue Creek & the
> > surrounding woods ~ I knew it was named for
> > Indians, but here's some detail..
> >
> > (it's dated 2003 and that's about the last time
> I
> > was there..)
> > .
> > .
> >
> > The second picture is a prototype for the
> > 7-Corners Woodward & Lothrop..
> >
> > .
> >
> > .
>
> I may have known you or someone in your family. I
> grew up right next to Dogue Creek - at the end of
> Buckner Rd, next the 15th fairway of Woodlawn
> Country Club Golf Course.
>
> You say you left in the area in the early 2000s.
> The Woodlawn Stables, which were right behind the
> Dogue Creek sign you posted, are gone and Rt 1
> runs right through the former stables property. It
> is a trip driving through there as it goes behind
> Woodlwawn Baptist church instead of in front of
> it.

I don't remember the street-name of Buckner... But just looked it up & I had friends that lived 2-streets over on Patton Blvd. Three kids, all with the same initials, and I was friends with the two youngest. In the early 80's, they moved a little closer to Mt. Vernon H.S. And their neighbor towards the end of Patton also has/had a kid our age .. that family owned a still popular retail establishment.

On Google maps, the N/E branch of Dogue Creek ends just east of Gateshead Rd., but it actually continues north and divides the back yards between Richmond Ave. and Mt. Zephyr Dr. ~ that's where I grew up.

The few blocks at the north tip of Mt. Zephyr Dr., made up of Quisenberry Dr., Nalls Rd., etc., didn't exist back then; that's where the N.E. tip of the creek began as just a trickle. And one of those *new* front yards is where we used to have a tree-house when it was still all just woods.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:03PM

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:20PM

causeican Wrote:
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> .What is this?


Is it the water treatment ctr. ?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:33PM

is this Centreville?
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: gbw ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:34PM

Past Times Wrote:
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> causeican Wrote:
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> > .What is this?
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>
> Is it the water treatment ctr. ?


Having trouble even figuring out where that rail yard is. Was it off of current 395 near Army Navy Country club?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:35PM

Past Times Wrote:
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> causeican Wrote:
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> > .What is this?
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>
> Is it the water treatment ctr. ?


I mean, what looks like houses in a row, but is it? Houses in a row, I mean?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:49PM

gbw Wrote:
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> Past Times Wrote:
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> > causeican Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > .What is this?
> >
> >
> > Is it the water treatment ctr. ?
>
>
> Having trouble even figuring out where that rail
> yard is. Was it off of current 395 near Army Navy
> Country club?

If I'm right, the rail-yard was between the (now) Beltway and Eisenhower Ave., and the pic. was facing Four Mile Run.. NW of the Rt. 1 & 495 interchange.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Old Iron ()
Date: November 18, 2017 07:59PM

causeican Wrote:
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I have 2 possible answers for what is in the circled area.

Looking at the locomotive I suspect the picture was taken in the post Civil War 19th century.

This freight yard was in Alexandria near the current U.S. District Courthouse on Mill Street. The rise of land off in the distance is either the hill that the Masonic Temple is on, or is possible the hill at the top of North Kings Hwy.

I don't know the exact position of the freight yard and roundhouse, so it could be either I guess.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Samuel Johnson ()
Date: November 18, 2017 08:09PM

On the extreme right of the photo is the old railroad roundhouse in Alexandria. It was located about where Whole Foods is now. The rest of the photo I can’t tell you about, only the location.

I remember a Trak Auto there at one point, Table Talk Is one of the only places left.

Joe Theismann’s is still there a little to the north, always a good spot after attending Lodge at the Masonic Temple.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 18, 2017 08:51PM

The Roundhouse in the picture was located immediately west of Henry Street between Duke and Wolfe Street. The one you are thinking of that is further west was constructed around 1900. The picture looks to be one of a series that were made of the area around the roundhouse during the Civil War and is looking west towards where the Masonic Temple is now located. I believe at that time there were some houses on Peyton Street, but I don't believe those are what we are seeing. Also my 1870s map of the area doesn't show any line of structures in that area related to the water reservoir that was located on the hill.

Fort Elsworth was constructed by Union forces on the hill. The hill was also a common camp sight for Union forces, and there were quartermaster facilities operating out of the area. My guess is that these are either quarters for officers or troops at the fort (similar to the one at Fort Ward), offices for quartermasters or bakeries.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: gbw ()
Date: November 18, 2017 08:53PM


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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: R/R Buff ()
Date: November 18, 2017 09:07PM

David in FC Wrote:
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> A W&OD railroad car that was abandoned at the
> Bluemont Junction just inside Arlington. The car
> had been purchased from a Pennsylvania line, and
> was used for a number of years before finally not
> being of use anymore.
> The car was part passenger car / part freight
> shipment car as you can see from the pictures.
> I love the detail in the workmanship of the
> passenger compartment.
> These pictures were taken from Shorpy.com, which
> has some great old pictures of all varieties from
> all over the country.

Well, I for one, would at least like to thank you "David in FC" for your recent posts. Great train pictures, and I like the Then and Now comparison from Shreve Road.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 18, 2017 09:21PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> The Roundhouse in the picture was located
> immediately west of Henry Street between Duke and
> Wolfe Street. The one you are thinking of that is
> further west was constructed around 1900. The
> picture looks to be one of a series that were made
> of the area around the roundhouse during the Civil
> War and is looking west towards where the Masonic
> Temple is now located. I believe at that time
> there were some houses on Peyton Street, but I
> don't believe those are what we are seeing. Also
> my 1870s map of the area doesn't show any line of
> structures in that area related to the water
> reservoir that was located on the hill.
>
> Fort Elsworth was constructed by Union forces on
> the hill. The hill was also a common camp sight
> for Union forces, and there were quartermaster
> facilities operating out of the area. My guess is
> that these are either quarters for officers or
> troops at the fort (similar to the one at Fort
> Ward), offices for quartermasters or bakeries.



Details from the Library of Congress pix website:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2005696856/

Title: Eastern view of round house and depot, Orange & Alexandria Railroad

Creator(s): Russell, Andrew J., photographer

Date Created/Published: [between 1861 and 1865]

Medium: 1 photographic print : albumen.

Summary: Photograph shows a locomotive moving away from the roundhouse at the Orange & Alexandria railroad yard in Alexandria, Virginia. Railroad signal lights on pole in foreground.

Reproduction Number: LC-DIG-ppmsca-08260 (digital file from original photograph) LC-B8184-10221 (b&w film copy neg.)

Rights Advisory: No known restrictions on publication.

Call Number: LOT 11486-C, no. 4 [P&P]

Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA
Notes:
No. 104.
Title from item.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Shootin Craps ()
Date: November 18, 2017 10:18PM

Yes, that's the Baileys X Roads volunteer fire dept. My grandfather was a fireman there.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Kingsarms ()
Date: November 19, 2017 12:32AM

That's definitely the old Baileys Crossroads Fire House. Here's a clearer photo that shows the firehouse with the attached florists. The street in front of the firehouse would be route 7.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 19, 2017 05:49AM

Kingsarms Wrote:
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> That's definitely the old Baileys Crossroads Fire
> House. Here's a clearer photo that shows the
> firehouse with the attached florists. The street
> in front of the firehouse would be route 7.


cool

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 19, 2017 05:52AM

There have been a lot of great pictures posted recently. Thank you all. It’s good fun.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 19, 2017 05:57AM

In search of an old aerial of Alexandria showing the train tracks, I happened upon this one:
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Fairfax Fred ()
Date: November 19, 2017 06:57AM

causeican Wrote:
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> is this Centreville?


I am pretty sure its bailies x roads. Looks like the same fence.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Fairfax Fred ()
Date: November 19, 2017 07:06AM

Blanche and Sleepy will know where this was located. Only info I got is that it is supposedly Falls Church area.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: blanche ()
Date: November 19, 2017 07:13AM

Its the shopping center on Route 7 west bound just past Jefferson Street.

EJ Korvettes apparently had the entire shopping center since the corner building is the Korvettes Food Center. Thy had a great record department.

There was a Giant on that corner for a while before being rebuilt in the parking lot next to Goodwin House.

I'm really loving the Baileys Crossroad pictures. Was the fire house located where the shopping center with the TJ is now or was it on the other side of Route 7?

Thanks for these great pictures!

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 08:35AM

George Washington Parkway being built in 1931; and then when opened in 1932... (Same tree in both pix)...
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Cgm ()
Date: November 19, 2017 09:15AM

Past Times Wrote:
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> George Washington Parkway being built in 1931; and
> then when opened in 1932... (Same tree in both
> pix)...
> .
> .


Nice road. Look at that old car! Is he making a U-turn?!

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 09:56AM

Dulles Airport ... Prototypes and building; late 1950's-1962
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: R/R Buff ()
Date: November 19, 2017 10:05AM

The construction of Dulles is one of the things that helped to keep the W&OD Railroad alive for a few more years.
A large part of the concrete that went into the construction of Dulles came from the cement factory that is just out of sight in David in FC's Shreve road pictures.
Built right next to the railroad, it was a good location to help transport the material.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 10:34AM

R/R Buff Wrote:
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> The construction of Dulles is one of the things
> that helped to keep the W&OD Railroad alive for a
> few more years.
> A large part of the concrete that went into the
> construction of Dulles came from the cement
> factory that is just out of sight in David in FC's
> Shreve road pictures.
> Built right next to the railroad, it was a good
> location to help transport the material.


Ironic ! ~ ~ The pic of the white car with the airport in the far background noted: " ...and access road where hi-speed train will go."

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 10:39AM

Panoramic view of Tyson's Corner (date unknown, other than it's pre-2006)
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 10:53AM

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 10:54AM

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Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 10:55AM

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 11:11AM

Seven Corners
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 11:13AM

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1862 ~ Crossing the Potomac near Alexandria
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Sleepy Holla ()
Date: November 19, 2017 11:21AM

Fairfax Fred Wrote:
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> Blanche and Sleepy will know where this was
> located. Only info I got is that it is supposedly
> Falls Church area.


Thanks for that...yes Blanche has nailed it...later a Chesapeake Bay Seafood was in that center also. One of my loves worked in the Korvettes restaurant.

Also, many thanks for keeping this going w/ more cool photos....it's the best.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: The Undertaker ()
Date: November 19, 2017 11:32AM

A photo of Mr Money, of Money and King fame. One of the larger funeral homes in the area.
Appropriate pose for an undertaker.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 11:41AM

The Undertaker Wrote:
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> A photo of Mr Money, of Money and King fame. One
> of the larger funeral homes in the area.
> Appropriate pose for an undertaker.

Demaine F.H. in 1948:
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: blanch ()
Date: November 19, 2017 11:43AM

I answered my own question regarding the fire house on Route 7 in the various Bailey's Crossroads pictures -- I have a very old ADC map of Northern Virginia that I look at to see what things were like in the past, and it has a fire house about where the Baimianrestaurant/Babies R Us is located.

This is something that is just on the very edge of my memory and its looks like the building was taken when the "cloverleaf" was put in at Columbia Pike and Leesburg Pike.

Sleepy can you confirm?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Sleepy Holla ()
Date: November 19, 2017 12:16PM

Blanche, I believe you are correct...here is a link....http://ahistoryofmason.gmu.edu/items/show/57

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Len Little ()
Date: November 19, 2017 01:55PM

I would like to touch on several items.

The picture of Fairfax Hospital Reminds me of the time While working for the C&P Telephone company in 1969 I was injured and partially (temporarily) paralized and being treated at the hospital. There was a cute student nurse on night duty, the hospital didn't have that much for the students to do while they were on night duty. This nurse student hung around my room and after two weeks I was able to leave the hospital, but not before she gave me her phone number. a couple of weeks later I was well enough to ask her out and we dated about three times over the next few weeks. on X-Mas night, she asked me to marry her, and fortunately I was smart enough to say yes. She is still the love of my life.

Shortly after my family moved to McLean in 1958, a McDonalds opened near the intersection of 123 and Old Dominion.I remember it mostly because they advertized the 47 cent meal. A hamburger, fries, and a shake. God only knows how many of them I ate.

On many an afternoon I and my family would drive out to the Colvin run area to get a taste treat at Thelmas. She ran a little shop and gas station and made her own ice cream. You haven't visited Great Falls until you ate ice cream at Thelmas. Unfortunately Thelma is gone now so if you didn't go there you have missed the treat.

Back in the early days of Dulles Airport, there wasn't that much traffic on the access road. A bunch of teens had painted two stripes on the road. One line on the road to the airport, and one on the return road. At that time you could drive out to the airport, take the Cargo exit go over the bridge and get onto the return road back to McLean. The two striped were a measured 32 miles apart. Doing a "CARGO" run was a test of your cars speed. The run had to be observed by at least five people, one of which had to be in the car with you, to make sure you didn't take a shortcut. Out and back in under 16 minutes was a winner. My 1956 beefed up Pontiac won my cargo in 1965.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: 100 Octane Gasoline ()
Date: November 19, 2017 03:09PM

It is a wonder I wasn't killed on the Dulles Access Road. Doing 145mph in a car with 4 wheel drum brakes, not wearing seat belts, all the windows down.

We jumped on the access road in Tyson's Corner, and let that 440 Charger go. The spedo was a 150 version but I am not sure how accurate they were in 1969 cars. The car held 145 with no effort, and could have gone faster, but the speed scared the crap out of me. Ran a steady 145 mph from just outside Tyson's to Herndon, I slowed down to cut through the airport.

Dragged along at 70 mph back to RT 123

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: little league ()
Date: November 19, 2017 03:47PM

Times HAVE changed.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Andy Ratlips ()
Date: November 19, 2017 04:14PM

The very First car sold by Jim McKay Chevrolet. Paid in cash!
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: blanche ()
Date: November 19, 2017 04:29PM

Sleepy Holla Wrote:
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> Blanche, I believe you are correct...here is a
> link....http://ahistoryofmason.gmu.edu/items/show/
> 57


Many thanks for the link, there is so much that I have forgotten that has changed while living most of my life here in Northern Virginia.

My mom took classes at the old GMU building in Baileys Crossroads which was a former FCPS building. It looked a lot like the Floris School in Frying Pan Park.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Old Iron ()
Date: November 19, 2017 04:42PM

Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> The very First car sold by Jim McKay Chevrolet.
> Paid in cash!


I thought McKay opened in 1956 - I could be wrong

Britt opened in 1959

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: confused ()
Date: November 19, 2017 04:47PM

Past Times Wrote:
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> Panoramic view of Tyson's Corner (date unknown,
> other than it's pre-2006)
> .
> .


What direction is this taken from?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 05:02PM

Old Iron Wrote:
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> Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> -----
> > The very First car sold by Jim McKay Chevrolet.
> > Paid in cash!
>
>
> I thought McKay opened in 1956 - I could be wrong
>
> Britt opened in 1959



From their website: http://www.jimmckaychevrolet.net/Welcome-Page

"Founded on July 11, 1956, Jim McKay Chevrolet has been a pillar in the greater Fairfax community ..."

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 05:39PM

confused Wrote:
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> Past Times Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Panoramic view of Tyson's Corner (date unknown,
> > other than it's pre-2006)
> > .
> > .
>
>
> What direction is this taken from?

Camera is facing N/E. Westwood Country Club is in the bottom of the pic.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: confused ()
Date: November 19, 2017 06:23PM

Past Times Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> confused Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Past Times Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Panoramic view of Tyson's Corner (date
> unknown,
> > > other than it's pre-2006)
> > > .
> > > .
> >
> >
> > What direction is this taken from?
>
> Camera is facing N/E. Westwood Country Club is in
> the bottom of the pic.

Oh, so the photo is inverted? That why I was confused as Rt. 123 runs along the right side of the country club not the left side as you are heading North.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 19, 2017 07:46PM

confused Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Past Times Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > confused Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Past Times Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Panoramic view of Tyson's Corner (date
> > unknown,
> > > > other than it's pre-2006)
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > What direction is this taken from?
> >
> > Camera is facing N/E. Westwood Country Club is
> in
> > the bottom of the pic.
>
> Oh, so the photo is inverted? That why I was
> confused as Rt. 123 runs along the right side of
> the country club not the left side as you are
> heading North.



Looking again, I can see that the condo's on Greensboro Dr. are on the wrong side of the picture.

**oops**

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: November 19, 2017 08:42PM

Past Times Wrote:
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> Dulles Airport ... Prototypes and building; late
> 1950's-1962

Awesome photos. Long shot, but can anyone tell where the one on the Access Road was taken? Seems like it might be by Rt. 28, since that overpass/culvert looks brand-new and there wouldn't have been much new out there getting farther from Dulles, but that's a SWAG. If so, then I guess it's basically parallel to the Hyatt now?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: November 20, 2017 12:23AM

Fran Conia Wrote:
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> Andy Ratlips Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Joke Insurance Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Does anyone have photos of the interior and
> > > exterior of the old Fair Lanes Bowlling Alley
> > that
> > > was in Springfield Va?
> >
> >
> > There are some in this thread somewhere. Life
> > magizine did some shots of St Bernadettes kids
> > bowling there in the 1960s
>
>
> On page 64.


You the man!

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=261660,filename=fair_lanes_springfield1.jpg

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=261659,filename=fair_lanes_springfield_2.jpg

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: November 20, 2017 12:29AM

Annandale Theatre
7039 Little River Turnpike, Annandale, VA 22003

Large single screen house with huge screen. Built in 1964 (I was let in the side door while in high school), it opened September 26, 1964.

The 1974 Yellow Pages lists the theatre at 7039 Little River Turnpike, Annandale, telephone 256-7600. Part of the Neighborhood of Virginia chain.

Huge projection booth with Norelco 35-70s.

The Annandale Theatre was closed in 1988.

Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/22300
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: November 20, 2017 12:36AM

Bradlick Theatre
5105 Backlick Road, Annandale, VA 22003

Located in the Bradlick Shopping Center in Annandale, Virginia, this single screen house opened April 29, 1964. The theatre closed in 1985.

Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/21915



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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: November 20, 2017 12:39AM

Springfield Theatre
7039 Old Keene Mill Road, Springfield, VA 22150

The 1974 Yellow Pages lists the theater at 7039 Old Keene Mill Road, Springfield, Va 22150 telephone number 451-7505.

Side by side twin. Part of the Neighborhood of Virginia chain.

A Circuit City (now closed) was built on the site of the theater.

Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/22296



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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: November 20, 2017 12:51AM

Lee Highway Drive-In
8223 Lee Highway, Merrifield, VA 22031

The Lee Highway Drive-In opened August 26, 1954 with a capacity for 1,000 cars, it was operated by M. Redstone. One entrance was on Lee Highway and the other on Gallows Road. This drive-in later had a capacity for 1,350 cars. The Lee Highway Drive-In closed in 1984 and was replaced by a multiplex theater.

Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/12250
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: November 20, 2017 12:56AM

Loew's Fairfax Circle
9488 Arlington Boulevard, Fairfax Circle, VA 22031

Loew’s was so proud of this new theatre that they featured it in the company’s 1965 annual report. It was scheduled to open on Christmas Day, 1965.

This theater closed in 1985.

Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/12424
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: thread patrol ()
Date: November 20, 2017 02:10AM

Joke Insurance, all those theatre pics have already been posted here. Got anything new?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: doomspider ()
Date: November 20, 2017 02:30AM

thread patrol Wrote:
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> Joke Insurance, all those theatre pics have
> already been posted here. Got anything new?

I don't mind the repost considering how damned long this thread has become, 89 pages.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: blanche ()
Date: November 20, 2017 06:37AM

Thanks for all the great pictures of local theatres.

The Annandale Theatre really was a Cathedral of Cinema.

Smoky and the Bandit played for months at the Bradlick Theatre and I remember being home from college -- seeing it on December 23 and knowing I had all my Christmas shopping to complete the next day.

Good Times!

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Hiram Abiff ()
Date: November 20, 2017 08:26AM

Causeican:

Since Alexandria was a part of Fairfax Co. until 1870, the old photo of the Roundhouse fits perfectly.

I downloaded two pictures from the Library of Congress, the first was your photo but a higher resolution so I could zoom in. It appears to be a building, but I also found an artist's rendition of the area during the Civil War. I have circled what building I think it is, since the description on the first photo states that it is the west side of the Roundhouse, photographer is facing east.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: 30 years ago ()
Date: November 20, 2017 09:50AM

Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> Loew's Fairfax Circle
> 9488 Arlington Boulevard, Fairfax Circle, VA
> 22031
>
> Loew’s was so proud of this new theatre that
> they featured it in the company’s 1965 annual
> report. It was scheduled to open on Christmas Day,
> 1965.
>
> This theater closed in 1985.
>
> Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/12424


Is there a reason so many theaters closed between 1984 -1985?

All the drive movie theaters closed as well.

We would grab a case of Bud from the 7-11 at Cedar and Lee Hwy, some tacos from Tippy's, and hit the Lee Hwy Dive In.

If we were out in Centreville we went to Super 29

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Maybe? ()
Date: November 20, 2017 07:22PM

30 years ago Wrote:
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>
> Is there a reason so many theaters closed between
> 1984 -1985?
>
> All the drive movie theaters closed as well.


I'm thinking in the early 80's, VCR's started getting popular and a lot of video stores started to open. Why go to a theater when you could sit at home watching movies.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: fxcograd ()
Date: November 21, 2017 06:55PM

Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> Springfield Theatre
> 7039 Old Keene Mill Road, Springfield, VA 22150
>
> The 1974 Yellow Pages lists the theater at 7039
> Old Keene Mill Road, Springfield, Va 22150
> telephone number 451-7505.
>
> Side by side twin. Part of the Neighborhood of
> Virginia chain.
>
> A Circuit City (now closed) was built on the site
> of the theater.
>
> Source: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/22296

From what I understand multideck parking will soon inhabit the former Springfield cinema and Circuit City site. A drive in movie theater will NOT be accompanying the parking. However , you will be able to park your car in a spacious and relaxed atmosphere....



If I recall there was also a Long John Silvers fish restaurant on the site in front of Circuit City.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 21, 2017 07:20PM

30 years ago Wrote:
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> Is there a reason so many theaters closed between
> 1984 -1985?
>
> All the drive movie theaters closed as well.


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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Movie Buff ()
Date: November 21, 2017 08:06PM

Past Times Wrote:
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> 30 years ago Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Is there a reason so many theaters closed
> between
> > 1984 -1985?
> >
> > All the drive movie theaters closed as well.
>
>
> .

I loved to go to the video stores and rent movies. I actually miss it as I hate watching my wife scroll through all the shit on Netflix!!! Let me pick up a box based on the photo and read a short description.....ah...the good old days.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: DNBPC ()
Date: November 21, 2017 08:57PM

Went to High School with Erol's daughter. He had a small TV repair shop in Arlington and happened onto the Video Rental craze at the right time and made it big. Then got into computers and Internet dial up, but I think this may have been when he peaked, cannot recall if he sold out or went bust after that.

As I recall Erol was an immigrant or 1st generation American that made it big for a while. Hopefully he did not put it all on the line and made something out of his small TV Repair business that he grew to a big company.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Past Times ()
Date: November 21, 2017 09:14PM

DNBPC Wrote:
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> Went to High School with Erol's daughter. He had a
> small TV repair shop in Arlington and happened
> onto the Video Rental craze at the right time and
> made it big. Then got into computers and Internet
> dial up, but I think this may have been when he
> peaked, cannot recall if he sold out or went bust
> after that.
>
> As I recall Erol was an immigrant or 1st
> generation American that made it big for a while.
> Hopefully he did not put it all on the line and
> made something out of his small TV Repair business
> that he grew to a big company.

Interesting !!

I remember the Erol's store in Woodbridge where my dad bought our first VCR in '82 ('83?). And then, among others, my local Woodlawn store, where I went for movies almost daily.

I knew they were replaced by Blockbuster, but had no clue of the details...

From Wikipedia: (at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erol%27s )

"Erol's Inc. was a video rental and electronic sales and repair company founded in the early 1980s. By 1985, Erol's was the country's largest privately owned videocassette rental company.[1] It was sold to Blockbuster Video for $40 million in 1990. ...... etc.
.
.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: V9KV7 ()
Date: November 21, 2017 11:31PM

While the Erol's Wiki info is mostly correct, it leaves out the early years.

I used to drive by where Erol lived and his work van with Erol's TV was always parked outside the house outside of business hours. I think he had his original shop in Arlington as I recall. For some reason I remember "Since 1962" painted on the side of the van.

For an immigrant that busted his ass, selling his video rental company to Block Buster for $40 Million right before the video tape rental market start to die out, he did well, not sure if he survived the computer and ISP business, there was a lot of growth, not sure if he could stay on top of the wave or crashed and burned.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: November 22, 2017 12:07AM

V9KV7 Wrote:
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> While the Erol's Wiki info is mostly correct, it
> leaves out the early years.
>
> I used to drive by where Erol lived and his work
> van with Erol's TV was always parked outside the
> house outside of business hours. I think he had
> his original shop in Arlington as I recall. For
> some reason I remember "Since 1962" painted on the
> side of the van.
>
> For an immigrant that busted his ass, selling his
> video rental company to Block Buster for $40
> Million right before the video tape rental market
> start to die out, he did well, not sure if he
> survived the computer and ISP business, there was
> a lot of growth, not sure if he could stay on top
> of the wave or crashed and burned.

Read the page. He sold the Internet business to RCN. I'm sure he's fine.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Fran Conia ()
Date: November 22, 2017 03:41PM

What a deal!
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: local... ()
Date: November 22, 2017 03:59PM

Got my first knockoff Walkman at the Ravensworth Erol's, before they moved into the shopping center. Rented every horror movie they had with my buddy. Good times.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: radio shack jack ()
Date: November 22, 2017 10:43PM

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjyEc3AHheRAJgcT4o31ifile.php?2,file=307419,filename=1974Plym


the old style lights, flashlight bulb filament, rotating, were soothing, informational but not OVERPOWERING

today's lights have two major flaws:


#1 they are so bright that at night they block vision of a dangerous traffic situation for which the cop car is on-scene to handle (neon flash bright on blackness makes everything hardly visible. i just think engineers in the past weren't that stupid, is the thing)

#2 they flash at a rate causing EPILEPSY (that combined with the neon flash effect is bad). drunk drivers exhibit a kind of epilepsy and react badly to the flashing: it is this which is likely the reason drunk drivers "brains shut off" and steer into cop cars instead of away from them (the drunks on highways passing traffic pull-overs - many tragedies due to that). i bet if tested that any bright flashers (amber road maintenance or police) cause drunks to steer wildly.

#4 the effect together causes allot of endangerment which is backed by many accidents, deaths, and arrests: CAUSED BY THOSE DAMN UPGRADED LIGHTS

#5 visual clues. to have depth perception the physics of light needs to illuminate an area so the mind can process depth. omitting lessons: the situations above eliminate visual clues - which is very dumb to do on highways or even unlit intersections with a traffic incident - even at slow speeds and people who are not drunk: people react dumbly when they can't see and there is an unusual situation they can't see.


it became popular to make brighter lights, using more radio shack electronics over the years. electronics hobby addict stuff.

for some reason the police just let them keep doing it without TESTING what these thoughless hobby hacks are doing to their cop cars, in my opinion



today we have something like a NEON FLASH BULB lights - which i feel never would have been legal in the past despite the fact they were available for purchase

I spoke with the State of Virginia (gov office and state police) about the matter, but they were absolutely obstinate and oblivious in hearing the short call.

------------------

(many safety things were tested in California, and Maryland - MD made the Amber turn signals a specific color code in one such test. today: import cars don't even use amber turn signals - so if a light is out and they tap breaks you may think it's a turn signal (no reason not to). i think we're getting billed for testing still but i don't think they are testing any longer.)

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: etd63 ()
Date: November 22, 2017 10:56PM

(I have not been an avid electronics hobbyist but occasionally have looked in since the 1980's. Back in the 1980's and 90's there were many "diagrams" pushed by parts makers for people to make "the better cop car flasher bar" potentially sellable to police. It was a pot head thing to do to build flashing lights and think you'd be selling it to police. Or was it? Are the police dept. on pot buying that 1980's fad hobby junk and putting it in emergency situations??)

unfortunately I won't be able to product any images of the "emergency flasher" electronics diagrams from the 80's. However just trust me: it was a fad and a thing used to help lure kids into taking up electronics as a hobby, just as it is for computers telling kids that their 3d printer is going to print electricity and their robots are going to "do their work for them" (that kinda advertising)

who in the world put these 1980's pot hobby electronics into emergency situations?

did no one ever ask where these "flashers" were coming from?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Emmett Grogan ()
Date: November 23, 2017 12:17AM

WTF is that fkashing light diatribe all about??

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 23, 2017 01:55AM

Hiram Abiff Wrote:
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> Causeican:
>
> Since Alexandria was a part of Fairfax Co. until
> 1870, the old photo of the Roundhouse fits
> perfectly.
>
> I downloaded two pictures from the Library of
> Congress, the first was your photo but a higher
> resolution so I could zoom in. It appears to be a
> building, but I also found an artist's rendition
> of the area during the Civil War. I have circled
> what building I think it is, since the description
> on the first photo states that it is the west side
> of the Roundhouse, photographer is facing east.


thanks!!! thats great! i never would have guessed check this out:
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: David in FC ()
Date: November 23, 2017 04:19AM

A house called Mount Hope, in what is now Falls Church.
I'll let you check out the wikipedia page for some info on it, and a couple newer, more current pictures.
It looks likes a nice place to have a Thanksgiving dinner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hope_(Falls_Church,_Virginia)
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Andy Ratlips ()
Date: November 23, 2017 05:15AM

Chris Hershey gives us these cool shots of the Paul the 6th McDonald's in Fairfax. One is from 1988 and the other is from an earlier date.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Policy Monger ()
Date: November 23, 2017 09:35AM

Emmett Grogan Wrote:
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> WTF is that fkashing light diatribe all about??


It is better to have the conversation now before something truly terrible happens.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Fairfax Fred ()
Date: November 23, 2017 09:54AM

Since everyone seems to be re-posting previous pictures I thought I might join in and re-post this one from page 1. I think it is pretty cool. Happy Thanksgiving to all my amateur local historian friends.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Sleepy Holla ()
Date: November 23, 2017 12:33PM

Happy Thanksgiving to all contributors.

A slide I have Falls Church 1956....house # is 322...what street could it be?
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: David in FC ()
Date: November 23, 2017 11:13PM

OK, so not really a picture, but I guess it is from the past, about 50 years ago.
The Mamas And The Papas did a version of the song Dancing In The Streets. It's on their Greatest Hits album.
At the end of the song, they kind of start to get a bit goofy, and I think it's Michelle and Denny start rattling off names of cities and towns.
At about the 3:34 mark, she mentions "Alexandria", and he says that "that's in Virginia", then a few seconds later at 3:38 she says "Falls Church?", and he asks "where's that?"
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Olga ()
Date: November 24, 2017 11:08AM

Sleepy,

Beautiful color slide you posted. I'd move right in, right now, but only if he car conveys!

So I did a quick look-see and these are 322 street addresses.

322 Groves, Van Buren or Wrens Way.

Couldn't find exact house. As you know, like torn down/renumbered/redeveloped.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Sleepy Holla ()
Date: November 24, 2017 11:38AM

Olga Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sleepy,
>
> Beautiful color slide you posted. I'd move right
> in, right now, but only if he car conveys!
>
> So I did a quick look-see and these are 322 street
> addresses.
>
> 322 Groves, Van Buren or Wrens Way.
>
> Couldn't find exact house. As you know, like torn
> down/renumbered/redeveloped.

Olga, I did the same thing....maybe address's changed?

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: What’s he saying, Robin? ()
Date: November 24, 2017 11:40AM

radio shack jack Wrote:
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> src=https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tb
> n:ANd9GcQjyEc3AHheRAJgcT4o31iB-WivTPkRswFb7dGdqShG
> LSrrVXxA>
>
> src=http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.p
> hp?2,file=307419,filename=1974Plymouth.jpg>
>
>


> the old style lights, flashlight bulb filament,
> rotating, were soothing, informational but not
> OVERPOWERING
>
> today's lights have two major flaws:
>


> #1 they are so bright that at night they block
> vision of a dangerous traffic situation for which
> the cop car is on-scene to handle (neon flash
> bright on blackness makes everything hardly
> visible. i just think engineers in the past
> weren't that stupid, is the thing)
>
> #2 they flash at a rate causing EPILEPSY (that
> combined with the neon flash effect is bad).
> drunk drivers exhibit a kind of epilepsy and react
> badly to the flashing: it is this which is likely
> the reason drunk drivers "brains shut off" and
> steer into cop cars instead of away from them (the
> drunks on highways passing traffic pull-overs -
> many tragedies due to that). i bet if tested that
> any bright flashers (amber road maintenance or
> police) cause drunks to steer wildly.
>
> #4 the effect together causes allot of
> endangerment which is backed by many accidents,
> deaths, and arrests: CAUSED BY THOSE DAMN UPGRADED
> LIGHTS
>
> #5 visual clues. to have depth perception the
> physics of light needs to illuminate an area so
> the mind can process depth. omitting lessons: the
> situations above eliminate visual clues - which is
> very dumb to do on highways or even unlit
> intersections with a traffic incident - even at
> slow speeds and people who are not drunk: people
> react dumbly when they can't see and there is an
> unusual situation they can't see.
>


> it became popular to make brighter lights, using
> more radio shack electronics over the years.
> electronics hobby addict stuff.
>
> for some reason the police just let them keep
> doing it without TESTING what these thoughless
> hobby hacks are doing to their cop cars, in my
> opinion
>


>
> today we have something like a NEON FLASH BULB
> lights - which i feel never would have been legal
> in the past despite the fact they were available
> for purchase
>
> I spoke with the State of Virginia (gov office and
> state police) about the matter, but they were
> absolutely obstinate and oblivious in hearing the
> short call.
>
> ------------------
>
> (many safety things were tested in California, and
> Maryland - MD made the Amber turn signals a
> specific color code in one such test. today:
> import cars don't even use amber turn signals - so
> if a light is out and they tap breaks you may
> think it's a turn signal (no reason not to). i
> think we're getting billed for testing still but i
> don't think they are testing any longer.)


^
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Talking Points ()
Date: November 24, 2017 11:46AM

What’s he saying, Robin? Wrote:
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> radio shack jack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> src=https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tb
>
> >
> n:ANd9GcQjyEc3AHheRAJgcT4o31iB-WivTPkRswFb7dGdqShG
>
> > LSrrVXxA>
> >
> > >
> src=http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.p
>
> > hp?2,file=307419,filename=1974Plymouth.jpg>
> >
> >


> > the old style lights, flashlight bulb filament,
> > rotating, were soothing, informational but not
> > OVERPOWERING
> >
> > today's lights have two major flaws:
> >


> > #1 they are so bright that at night they block
> > vision of a dangerous traffic situation for
> which
> > the cop car is on-scene to handle (neon flash
> > bright on blackness makes everything hardly
> > visible. i just think engineers in the past
> > weren't that stupid, is the thing)
> >
> > #2 they flash at a rate causing EPILEPSY (that
> > combined with the neon flash effect is bad).
> > drunk drivers exhibit a kind of epilepsy and
> react
> > badly to the flashing: it is this which is
> likely
> > the reason drunk drivers "brains shut off" and
> > steer into cop cars instead of away from them
> (the
> > drunks on highways passing traffic pull-overs -
> > many tragedies due to that). i bet if tested
> that
> > any bright flashers (amber road maintenance or
> > police) cause drunks to steer wildly.
> >
> > #4 the effect together causes allot of
> > endangerment which is backed by many accidents,
> > deaths, and arrests: CAUSED BY THOSE DAMN
> UPGRADED
> > LIGHTS
> >
> > #5 visual clues. to have depth perception the
> > physics of light needs to illuminate an area so
> > the mind can process depth. omitting lessons:
> the
> > situations above eliminate visual clues - which
> is
> > very dumb to do on highways or even unlit
> > intersections with a traffic incident - even at
> > slow speeds and people who are not drunk:
> people
> > react dumbly when they can't see and there is
> an
> > unusual situation they can't see.
> >


> > it became popular to make brighter lights,
> using
> > more radio shack electronics over the years.
> > electronics hobby addict stuff.
> >
> > for some reason the police just let them keep
> > doing it without TESTING what these thoughless
> > hobby hacks are doing to their cop cars, in my
> > opinion
> >


> >
> > today we have something like a NEON FLASH BULB
> > lights - which i feel never would have been
> legal
> > in the past despite the fact they were
> available
> > for purchase
> >
> > I spoke with the State of Virginia (gov office
> and
> > state police) about the matter, but they were
> > absolutely obstinate and oblivious in hearing
> the
> > short call.
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > (many safety things were tested in California,
> and
> > Maryland - MD made the Amber turn signals a
> > specific color code in one such test. today:
> > import cars don't even use amber turn signals -
> so
> > if a light is out and they tap breaks you may
> > think it's a turn signal (no reason not to). i
> > think we're getting billed for testing still but
> i
> > don't think they are testing any longer.)
>
>
> ^

The point is the certain strobe lights can cause medical difficulties, and further discussion is needed.

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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by: Mike_Hunt ()
Date: November 24, 2017 11:51AM

From epilepsy.com ~~

"For about 3% of people with epilepsy, exposure to flashing lights at certain intensities or to certain visual patterns can trigger seizures.

This condition is known as photosensitive epilepsy.


https://www.epilepsy.com/learn/triggers-seizures/photosensitivity-and-seizures

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