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Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling alley off in the distance.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
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Joke Insurance
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Date: December 13, 2015 01:58PM
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> > About Burke Lake Park?
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> To the paragraph after Hurricane Isabel. You can
> do it.
Wrong info, son.
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> > About Burke Lake Park?
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> To the paragraph after Hurricane Isabel. You can
> do it.
Wrong info, son.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
kook owl
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Date: December 13, 2015 03:21PM
Here.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
joke insurance son
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Date: December 13, 2015 07:05PM
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> > do it.
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> Wrong info, son.
Cut and paste just for you daddy.
"Larry Mark (Vancouver Road) reported that when he and his family moved in, Old Keene Mill Road was a two-lane undivided highway. The closest grocery store was the Giant in the Springfield Plaza. At the intersection of Old Keene Mill & Rolling Road was the 7-11 and a Texaco. If you headed north on Rolling Road, there was a one-lane bridge over the railroad just before you get to Kings Park."
I'm sorry the words are so big. You can probably still figure them out.
Link for you one more time. Maybe Mommy can help.
http://www.westspringfieldvillage.org/VillageHistory/history.html
Yawn
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> > > About Burke Lake Park?
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> > To the paragraph after Hurricane Isabel. You
> can
> > do it.
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> Wrong info, son.
Cut and paste just for you daddy.
"Larry Mark (Vancouver Road) reported that when he and his family moved in, Old Keene Mill Road was a two-lane undivided highway. The closest grocery store was the Giant in the Springfield Plaza. At the intersection of Old Keene Mill & Rolling Road was the 7-11 and a Texaco. If you headed north on Rolling Road, there was a one-lane bridge over the railroad just before you get to Kings Park."
I'm sorry the words are so big. You can probably still figure them out.
Link for you one more time. Maybe Mommy can help.
http://www.westspringfieldvillage.org/VillageHistory/history.html
Yawn
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
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Date: December 13, 2015 11:12PM
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> > > To the paragraph after Hurricane Isabel. You
> > can
> > > do it.
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> > Wrong info, son.
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> Cut and paste just for you daddy.
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> "Larry Mark (Vancouver Road) reported that when he
> and his family moved in, Old Keene Mill Road was a
> two-lane undivided highway. The closest grocery
> store was the Giant in the Springfield Plaza. At
> the intersection of Old Keene Mill & Rolling Road
> was the 7-11 and a Texaco. If you headed north on
> Rolling Road, there was a one-lane bridge over the
> railroad just before you get to Kings Park."
>
> I'm sorry the words are so big. You can probably
> still figure them out.
>
> Link for you one more time. Maybe Mommy can
> help.
>
> http://www.westspringfieldvillage.org/VillageHisto
> ry/history.html
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> Yawn
Please be Mommy.
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> > > > > Scroll about 2/3 of the way down.
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> > > > About Burke Lake Park?
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> > > To the paragraph after Hurricane Isabel. You
> > can
> > > do it.
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> > Wrong info, son.
>
> Cut and paste just for you daddy.
>
> "Larry Mark (Vancouver Road) reported that when he
> and his family moved in, Old Keene Mill Road was a
> two-lane undivided highway. The closest grocery
> store was the Giant in the Springfield Plaza. At
> the intersection of Old Keene Mill & Rolling Road
> was the 7-11 and a Texaco. If you headed north on
> Rolling Road, there was a one-lane bridge over the
> railroad just before you get to Kings Park."
>
> I'm sorry the words are so big. You can probably
> still figure them out.
>
> Link for you one more time. Maybe Mommy can
> help.
>
> http://www.westspringfieldvillage.org/VillageHisto
> ry/history.html
>
> Yawn
Please be Mommy.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
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Date: December 14, 2015 05:29PM
This is a Civil War-era stone bridge abutment that was built to carry tracks for the Manassas Gap Railroad across Cub Run. Financial problems stopped the work in May 1857.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
bTnTJ
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Date: December 14, 2015 07:21PM
A bridge abutment which never saw it's day? Cool. Did you just go out there and snap that picture?
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Bill.N.
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Date: December 14, 2015 07:32PM
If you know where to look Joke Insurance you can find traces of the abandoned roadbed in Fairfax and Annandale as well. Then of course in Prince William the unfinished railroad figured prominently in the Second Battle of Manassas.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
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Date: December 14, 2015 07:58PM
bTnTJ Wrote:
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> A bridge abutment which never saw it's day? Cool.
> Did you just go out there and snap that picture?
http://www.travbuddy.com/travel-blogs/15690/Suburban-Archaeology-2-Gap-Line-63
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> A bridge abutment which never saw it's day? Cool.
> Did you just go out there and snap that picture?
http://www.travbuddy.com/travel-blogs/15690/Suburban-Archaeology-2-Gap-Line-63
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Asiandale resident
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Date: December 14, 2015 09:00PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> If you know where to look Joke Insurance you can
> find traces of the abandoned roadbed in Fairfax
> and Annandale as well. Then of course in Prince
> William the unfinished railroad figured
> prominently in the Second Battle of Manassas.
Yes - in the little (and overgrown) park next to George Mason Regional Library on Little River Turnpike.
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> If you know where to look Joke Insurance you can
> find traces of the abandoned roadbed in Fairfax
> and Annandale as well. Then of course in Prince
> William the unfinished railroad figured
> prominently in the Second Battle of Manassas.
Yes - in the little (and overgrown) park next to George Mason Regional Library on Little River Turnpike.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Greenbriar res
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Date: December 14, 2015 10:38PM
More unfinished railroad stuff. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?oe=UTF8&msa=0&ie=UTF8&mid=zLWNVehG8IW8.kNNjRkU1O1r8
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
whitecamry
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Date: December 15, 2015 07:13AM
Sleepy Holla Wrote:
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> Giant pic in Falls Church-1960's and a 1966
> countdown from Giant.
"The Momma's & The Poppa's"
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> Giant pic in Falls Church-1960's and a 1966
> countdown from Giant.
"The Momma's & The Poppa's"
:)
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Yeah, but...
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Date: December 15, 2015 08:08AM
They spelled the C.O.D.'s right.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
WHT
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Date: December 15, 2015 02:54PM
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Wash-n-Broad
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Date: December 15, 2015 03:00PM
Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling alley off in the distance.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
blanche
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Date: December 15, 2015 05:06PM
Wash-n-Broad Wrote:
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> Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four
> Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling
> alley off in the distance.
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> Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four
> Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling
> alley off in the distance.
Is the date of this photo known?
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Photo Detective
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Date: December 15, 2015 05:34PM
Wash-n-Broad Wrote:
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> Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four
> Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling
> alley off in the distance.
The taxi is a 1973 or 1974 Plymouth, so the photo is mid-1970's
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> Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four
> Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling
> alley off in the distance.
The taxi is a 1973 or 1974 Plymouth, so the photo is mid-1970's
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
a guy
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Date: December 15, 2015 07:53PM
Wash-n-Broad Wrote:
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> Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four
> Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling
> alley off in the distance.
Nice! Thanks for posting that.
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> Corner of 29 and 7. Currently, Ireland's Four
> Provinces sits there. You can see the bowling
> alley off in the distance.
Nice! Thanks for posting that.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
some_dude
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Date: December 17, 2015 04:11PM
yeah, my mom went to woodson at the time of the roof being rolled off by the tornado. I think for a year all the kids had to share a different school and classes didn't start until around mid-day for the woodson kids since they were basically running the school in two shifts.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
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great thread
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Date: December 18, 2015 02:43PM
This thread is awesome! Its closing in on half a million views.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
giving thread
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Date: December 19, 2015 09:52AM
This picture is not that old, 15 or 16 years maybe? Dogwood was famous for being the worst school in the county.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Dave Henery
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Date: December 20, 2015 01:20PM
Paynes centreville. What year? Those cars look late 70s early 80s maybe?
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Dave Henery
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Date: December 20, 2015 01:26PM
Thankfully these people failed.
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Posted by:
Photo Detective
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Date: December 20, 2015 01:30PM
Dave Henery Wrote:
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> Paynes centreville. What year? Those cars look
> late 70s early 80s maybe?
The Olds Cutlass in front of Centreville auto parts is a 1980 model, so this is very early 1980's photograph.
Look at the size of those Chevys.
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> Paynes centreville. What year? Those cars look
> late 70s early 80s maybe?
The Olds Cutlass in front of Centreville auto parts is a 1980 model, so this is very early 1980's photograph.
Look at the size of those Chevys.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
trust fund bum
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Date: December 20, 2015 04:18PM
Dave Henery Wrote:
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> Thankfully these people failed.
That is a great picture. I found a interesting article from the wapo 1977 about that deal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1977/07/21/walking-the-route-of-i-66-the-people-still-wait/d5ba201d-819f-4cbc-b8b0-327a479012b1/
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> Thankfully these people failed.
That is a great picture. I found a interesting article from the wapo 1977 about that deal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1977/07/21/walking-the-route-of-i-66-the-people-still-wait/d5ba201d-819f-4cbc-b8b0-327a479012b1/
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
ffx1987
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Date: December 20, 2015 04:51PM
trust fund bum Wrote:
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> That is a great picture. I found a interesting
> article from the wapo 1977 about that deal.
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> https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1977/
> 07/21/walking-the-route-of-i-66-the-people-still-w
> ait/d5ba201d-819f-4cbc-b8b0-327a479012b1/
Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I cannot believe the number of misspelled words and grammatical errors. No copy editors in the '70s?
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> That is a great picture. I found a interesting
> article from the wapo 1977 about that deal.
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1977/
> 07/21/walking-the-route-of-i-66-the-people-still-w
> ait/d5ba201d-819f-4cbc-b8b0-327a479012b1/
Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I cannot believe the number of misspelled words and grammatical errors. No copy editors in the '70s?
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
new error
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Date: December 20, 2015 05:48PM
I've noticed similar errors, etc when looking up old articles online.
I think what is happening is these errors are made now, when the "staff" types up the articles for the website from old hard copy.
Oft times, I have seen "illegible" typed in for a word or two, making me think they could not read the word from the original hard copy...
I think what is happening is these errors are made now, when the "staff" types up the articles for the website from old hard copy.
Oft times, I have seen "illegible" typed in for a word or two, making me think they could not read the word from the original hard copy...
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
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Long ago and far away
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Date: December 20, 2015 05:54PM
ffx1987 Wrote:
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> Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I
> cannot believe the number of misspelled words and
> grammatical errors. No copy editors in the '70s?
No internet in 1977. The article was likely digitized by scanning it to text or reading it aloud for voice-recognition software with not all of the resulting errors and omissions being caught or corrected. Otherwise, editorial standards at Grade-A papers such as The Post were much, much higher then than they are today.
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> Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I
> cannot believe the number of misspelled words and
> grammatical errors. No copy editors in the '70s?
No internet in 1977. The article was likely digitized by scanning it to text or reading it aloud for voice-recognition software with not all of the resulting errors and omissions being caught or corrected. Otherwise, editorial standards at Grade-A papers such as The Post were much, much higher then than they are today.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Greybeard
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Date: December 20, 2015 08:22PM
Long ago and far away Wrote:
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> > Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I
> > cannot believe the number of misspelled words
> and
> > grammatical errors. No copy editors in the
> '70s?
>
> No internet in 1977. The article was likely
> digitized by scanning it to text or reading it
> aloud for voice-recognition software with not all
> of the resulting errors and omissions being caught
> or corrected. Otherwise, editorial standards at
> Grade-A papers such as The Post were much, much
> higher then than they are today.
Yes, the errors are exactly the kind of mistakes that OCR makes.
For those who might wonder: Yes, the article might have existed in electronic format at some point, but even if backups exist, they may not be in a format that's readable on modern machines. Or at least, not easily.
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> > Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I
> > cannot believe the number of misspelled words
> and
> > grammatical errors. No copy editors in the
> '70s?
>
> No internet in 1977. The article was likely
> digitized by scanning it to text or reading it
> aloud for voice-recognition software with not all
> of the resulting errors and omissions being caught
> or corrected. Otherwise, editorial standards at
> Grade-A papers such as The Post were much, much
> higher then than they are today.
Yes, the errors are exactly the kind of mistakes that OCR makes.
For those who might wonder: Yes, the article might have existed in electronic format at some point, but even if backups exist, they may not be in a format that's readable on modern machines. Or at least, not easily.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
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Date: December 20, 2015 09:14PM
Dave Henery Wrote:
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> Thankfully these people failed.
Could you imagine if all those freeways proposed in the county were built? Yikes.
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> Thankfully these people failed.
Could you imagine if all those freeways proposed in the county were built? Yikes.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
lbss82bruin
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Date: December 22, 2015 12:15PM
giving thread Wrote:
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> This picture is not that old, 15 or 16 years
> maybe? Dogwood was famous for being the worst
> school in the county.
Was rebuilt in only about 14 months, and twice as big. Fire was about Sept, 2000; reopened Nov 2001.
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> This picture is not that old, 15 or 16 years
> maybe? Dogwood was famous for being the worst
> school in the county.
Was rebuilt in only about 14 months, and twice as big. Fire was about Sept, 2000; reopened Nov 2001.
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Posted by:
old
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Date: December 23, 2015 01:28AM
Dave Henery Wrote:
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> Paynes centreville. What year? Those cars look
> late 70s early 80s maybe?
The Chevy Impala alongside the building is a 1973.
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> Paynes centreville. What year? Those cars look
> late 70s early 80s maybe?
The Chevy Impala alongside the building is a 1973.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 23, 2015 04:05AM
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Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 23, 2015 04:42PM
Ok we know the date but where is this?
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Posted by:
Great picture above
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Date: December 23, 2015 05:45PM
Great picture above... I don't think anything in the picture is left except for the top of the building where the picture is being taken from.
Rt 123 and Old Meadow Rd, with 123 crossing in front. The picture is facing northeast with the Maplewood Mansion to the left.
Rt 123 and Old Meadow Rd, with 123 crossing in front. The picture is facing northeast with the Maplewood Mansion to the left.
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Great picture above
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Date: December 23, 2015 05:57PM
The 1970 aerial shows Maplewood is gone.
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Posted by:
memory2
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Date: December 24, 2015 04:46AM
pic courtesy of Jenna Peranteau.
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Times Have Changed
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Date: December 24, 2015 10:42AM
Great picture above Wrote:
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> The 1970 aerial shows Maplewood is gone.
Maplewood was located at 7676 Old Springhouse Road. It was demolished in good condition by the owner in 1970 for the stated reason that the house was too drafty. A far more likely motive was evasion of pending classification of the house as an historic landmark, an event that would have blocked sale and development of the land.
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> The 1970 aerial shows Maplewood is gone.
Maplewood was located at 7676 Old Springhouse Road. It was demolished in good condition by the owner in 1970 for the stated reason that the house was too drafty. A far more likely motive was evasion of pending classification of the house as an historic landmark, an event that would have blocked sale and development of the land.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
lonely isle
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Date: December 24, 2015 11:10AM
Times Have Changed Wrote:
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> Great picture above Wrote:
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> > The 1970 aerial shows Maplewood is gone.
>
> Maplewood was located at 7676 Old Springhouse
> Road. It was demolished in good condition by the
> owner in 1970 for the stated reason that the house
> was too drafty. A far more likely motive was
> evasion of pending classification of the house as
> an historic landmark, an event that would have
> blocked sale and development of the land.
Is that the Honeywell building under construction on the right hand side of that pic?
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> Great picture above Wrote:
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> > The 1970 aerial shows Maplewood is gone.
>
> Maplewood was located at 7676 Old Springhouse
> Road. It was demolished in good condition by the
> owner in 1970 for the stated reason that the house
> was too drafty. A far more likely motive was
> evasion of pending classification of the house as
> an historic landmark, an event that would have
> blocked sale and development of the land.
Is that the Honeywell building under construction on the right hand side of that pic?
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 26, 2015 09:44AM
Braddock road at Centreville just west of route 29 headed to route 28. I remember that little closed down gas station was taken over by Merchants tire and that was their outlet store with mismatched or slightly used tires that had been returned from their regular stores. I got some good deals on tires there in the late 70s to early 80s.
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Posted by:
Fact checkker
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Date: December 26, 2015 01:30PM
Date unknown. My guess is late 1800s to early 1900s. You can see the stone house in the distance on the right.
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
KHkTm
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Date: December 26, 2015 01:50PM
I thought CentreVille Rd was the old Rt 28?
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Posted by:
JECnM
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Date: December 26, 2015 01:54PM
Doesn't 29 run east/west? How can you be west of 29. I'm having a hard time placing this intersection.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 26, 2015 02:12PM
JECnM Wrote:
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> Doesn't 29 run east/west? How can you be west of
> 29. I'm having a hard time placing this
> intersection.
No, route 29 runs north to south. As I recall back in the day (70s) Braddock road westbound had a stoplight at route 29 in Centreville. If you went straight through the light you would get to route 28 and you could turn right there to go to Sterling / Dulles. The roads were realigned and intersections changed many times over the last 30 years or so. It is confusing.
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> Doesn't 29 run east/west? How can you be west of
> 29. I'm having a hard time placing this
> intersection.
No, route 29 runs north to south. As I recall back in the day (70s) Braddock road westbound had a stoplight at route 29 in Centreville. If you went straight through the light you would get to route 28 and you could turn right there to go to Sterling / Dulles. The roads were realigned and intersections changed many times over the last 30 years or so. It is confusing.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 26, 2015 02:34PM
Commonwealth doctors hospital 1969.
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ADC map says
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Date: December 26, 2015 03:03PM
Route 620 (Braddock Road) and Route 29 (Lee Highway) run east-west. They do not intersect. Route 28 (Sully/Centreville Road) runs north-south and intersects each of the other two. All three are right where they've been for decades.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 26, 2015 04:03PM
Learn something new everyday. I always thought it was east-west.
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Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 26, 2015 04:05PM
one more thing:
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Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 26, 2015 04:26PM
Something else to look at
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Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 26, 2015 04:30PM
that was 1953 map not 1937
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
TRW Building on 123
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Date: December 26, 2015 05:04PM
>Rt 123 and Old Meadow Rd, with 123 crossing in front. The picture is facing northeast with the Maplewood Mansion to the left.
Me thinks thats the TRW building that's going up on 123
DAJAX
Me thinks thats the TRW building that's going up on 123
DAJAX
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Posted by:
Old and New Braddock Roads
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Date: December 26, 2015 06:40PM
causeican Wrote:
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> Something else to look at
There's a reason they call it new Braddock Road. I'm guessing that all happened when they built 66. I've ridden my motorcycle on Braddock Road east from it's beginning (or ending) on Route 15. It's still gravel out there. Wonder how long that will last.
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> Something else to look at
There's a reason they call it new Braddock Road. I'm guessing that all happened when they built 66. I've ridden my motorcycle on Braddock Road east from it's beginning (or ending) on Route 15. It's still gravel out there. Wonder how long that will last.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Ne'er the twain shall meet
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Date: December 26, 2015 06:50PM
causeican Wrote:
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> Learn something new everyday. I always thought it was east-west.
Because it absolutely and positively does run east-west within the area that was actually under discussion. No place else matters at all.
But speaking of other places, Lee Highway started out to become the National Auto Trail. It was supposed to end up running all the way to San Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made the coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below in a then-record time of -- two months. Luminaries in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War. This is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial. That symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed to be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of the 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
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> Learn something new everyday. I always thought it was east-west.
Because it absolutely and positively does run east-west within the area that was actually under discussion. No place else matters at all.
But speaking of other places, Lee Highway started out to become the National Auto Trail. It was supposed to end up running all the way to San Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made the coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below in a then-record time of -- two months. Luminaries in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War. This is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial. That symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed to be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of the 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
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Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 26, 2015 06:54PM
ADC map says Wrote:
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> Route 620 (Braddock Road) and Route 29 (Lee
> Highway) run east-west. They do not intersect.
> Route 28 (Sully/Centreville Road) runs north-south
> and intersects each of the other two. All three
> are right where they've been for decades.
As I recall Braddock road was re-routed in the mid 80s and the new section named New Braddock road. At the corner of Braddock and 29 there was the tire place on one corner and a very small Amoco station on the opposite corner.
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> Route 620 (Braddock Road) and Route 29 (Lee
> Highway) run east-west. They do not intersect.
> Route 28 (Sully/Centreville Road) runs north-south
> and intersects each of the other two. All three
> are right where they've been for decades.
As I recall Braddock road was re-routed in the mid 80s and the new section named New Braddock road. At the corner of Braddock and 29 there was the tire place on one corner and a very small Amoco station on the opposite corner.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Ne'er the twain shall meet
()
Date: December 26, 2015 06:56PM
Should have sourced the map. It's from the Lee Highway Association in 1923.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Fairfax Fred
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Date: December 26, 2015 07:03PM
Ne'er the twain shall meet Wrote:
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> causeican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Learn something new everyday. I always thought
> it was east-west.
>
> Because it absolutely and positively does run
> east-west within the area that was actually under
> discussion. No place else matters at all.
>
> But speaking of other places, Lee Highway started
> out to become the National Auto Trail. It was
> supposed to end up running all the way to San
> Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made the
> coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below in
> a then-record time of -- two months. Luminaries
> in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a
> way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War. This
> is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built
> across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial. That
> symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed to
> be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of the
> 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one
> thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any
> money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
> .
Thats interesting.
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> causeican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Learn something new everyday. I always thought
> it was east-west.
>
> Because it absolutely and positively does run
> east-west within the area that was actually under
> discussion. No place else matters at all.
>
> But speaking of other places, Lee Highway started
> out to become the National Auto Trail. It was
> supposed to end up running all the way to San
> Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made the
> coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below in
> a then-record time of -- two months. Luminaries
> in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a
> way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War. This
> is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built
> across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial. That
> symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed to
> be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of the
> 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one
> thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any
> money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
> .
Thats interesting.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
()
Date: December 26, 2015 07:08PM
Ne'er the twain shall meet Wrote:
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> causeican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Learn something new everyday. I always thought
> it was east-west.
>
> Because it absolutely and positively does run
> east-west within the area that was actually under
> discussion. No place else matters at all.
>
> But speaking of other places, Lee Highway started
> out to become the National Auto Trail. It was
> supposed to end up running all the way to San
> Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made the
> coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below in
> a then-record time of -- two months. Luminaries
> in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a
> way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War. This
> is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built
> across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial. That
> symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed to
> be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of the
> 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one
> thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any
> money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
> .
You should let VDOT know that they have all the signage wrong lol.
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> causeican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Learn something new everyday. I always thought
> it was east-west.
>
> Because it absolutely and positively does run
> east-west within the area that was actually under
> discussion. No place else matters at all.
>
> But speaking of other places, Lee Highway started
> out to become the National Auto Trail. It was
> supposed to end up running all the way to San
> Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made the
> coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below in
> a then-record time of -- two months. Luminaries
> in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a
> way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War. This
> is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built
> across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial. That
> symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed to
> be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of the
> 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one
> thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any
> money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
> .
You should let VDOT know that they have all the signage wrong lol.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
local...
()
Date: December 26, 2015 07:09PM
Yup, Braddock was realigned back in the eighties....
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Pay Up Sucker
()
Date: December 26, 2015 07:13PM
steven warman Wrote:
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> Ne'er the twain shall meet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > causeican Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Learn something new everyday. I always
> thought
> > it was east-west.
> >
> > Because it absolutely and positively does run
> > east-west within the area that was actually
> under
> > discussion. No place else matters at all.
> >
> > But speaking of other places, Lee Highway
> started
> > out to become the National Auto Trail. It was
> > supposed to end up running all the way to San
> > Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made
> the
> > coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below
> in
> > a then-record time of -- two months.
> Luminaries
> > in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a
> > way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War.
> This
> > is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built
> > across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial.
> That
> > symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed
> to
> > be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of
> the
> > 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one
> > thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate
> any
> > money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
>
> > .
>
>
Turn the project over to Transurban, and turn the whole deal into Hot Lanes.
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> Ne'er the twain shall meet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > causeican Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Learn something new everyday. I always
> thought
> > it was east-west.
> >
> > Because it absolutely and positively does run
> > east-west within the area that was actually
> under
> > discussion. No place else matters at all.
> >
> > But speaking of other places, Lee Highway
> started
> > out to become the National Auto Trail. It was
> > supposed to end up running all the way to San
> > Francisco. After WWI, an army convoy had made
> the
> > coast-to-coast trip over the route mapped below
> in
> > a then-record time of -- two months.
> Luminaries
> > in the Good Roads Movement saw Lee Highway as a
> > way to bind up the wounds of the Civil War.
> This
> > is why the elaborate Memorial Bridge was built
> > across the Potomac to the Lincoln Memorial.
> That
> > symbolic union of Lincoln and Lee was supposed
> to
> > be a big deal. But all those fancy plans of
> the
> > 1920's kind of fizzled out over time. For one
> > thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate
> any
> > money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
>
> > .
>
>
Turn the project over to Transurban, and turn the whole deal into Hot Lanes.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Ne'er the twain shall meet
()
Date: December 26, 2015 07:46PM
steven warman Wrote:
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> You should let VDOT know that they have all the signage wrong lol.
They don't have any of it wrong. Once upon a time, there were two Lee Highways in Arlington. Later, one of them became Arlington Boulevard in an attempt to end the confusion. Keep in mind that it was all named auto trails at the time. Numbered highways did not come along until 1926.
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> You should let VDOT know that they have all the signage wrong lol.
They don't have any of it wrong. Once upon a time, there were two Lee Highways in Arlington. Later, one of them became Arlington Boulevard in an attempt to end the confusion. Keep in mind that it was all named auto trails at the time. Numbered highways did not come along until 1926.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
old resident
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Date: December 26, 2015 07:59PM
I could be wrong but as I remember it "THE Lee Highway" was route 211 and changed to 11 after New Market then 311 down around Roanoke somewhere. We used to call that road "twenty nine two eleven" up to the 80s when vdot ended 211 at Warrenton.
211, the lee highway is and was east-west
29 is and always has been north-south. If you look at this old map you see that 29 and 211 ran the same route back in the day.
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211, the lee highway is and was east-west
29 is and always has been north-south. If you look at this old map you see that 29 and 211 ran the same route back in the day.
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Posted by:
Some Things Never Change
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Date: December 26, 2015 08:32PM
> I've ridden my motorcycle on Braddock Road east from it's beginning (or ending) on Route 15. It's still gravel out there. Wonder how long that will last.
I drove my 1965 Mustang out there in 1971. 2 lanes all the way . Maybe it was 4 at the Beltway and then some after, the bridge over the Beltway was widened in 1970. ..When there were plenty of Log houses with Out houses out Braddock way.. Wonder how long it will last indeed. Outer Braddock Road.. "The Last Frontier" ..LOL.
DAJAX
I drove my 1965 Mustang out there in 1971. 2 lanes all the way . Maybe it was 4 at the Beltway and then some after, the bridge over the Beltway was widened in 1970. ..When there were plenty of Log houses with Out houses out Braddock way.. Wonder how long it will last indeed. Outer Braddock Road.. "The Last Frontier" ..LOL.
DAJAX
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Greybeard
()
Date: December 26, 2015 08:56PM
causeican Wrote:
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> Learn something new everyday. I always thought it
> was east-west.
29 has to be North-South because it's an odd-numbered route.
Interstates and US Routes: odd=N/S, even=E/W.
Interstates: lower numbers in the west/south, higher in the east/north
US Routes: lower numbers in the east/north, higher in the west/south
The US Route system is probably less rigorous about this, though I can't think of exceptions offhand.
Interstates are consistent except for I-99, which is an abomination.
Oh, and 3-digit Interstates also follow a scheme: even first digit=loop (495, for example, leaves 95 and rejoins); odd first digit=spur (395). I-270 is numbered wrong, too.
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> Learn something new everyday. I always thought it
> was east-west.
29 has to be North-South because it's an odd-numbered route.
Interstates and US Routes: odd=N/S, even=E/W.
Interstates: lower numbers in the west/south, higher in the east/north
US Routes: lower numbers in the east/north, higher in the west/south
The US Route system is probably less rigorous about this, though I can't think of exceptions offhand.
Interstates are consistent except for I-99, which is an abomination.
Oh, and 3-digit Interstates also follow a scheme: even first digit=loop (495, for example, leaves 95 and rejoins); odd first digit=spur (395). I-270 is numbered wrong, too.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
()
Date: December 26, 2015 09:07PM
Ne'er the twain shall meet Wrote:
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> steven warman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You should let VDOT know that they have all the
> signage wrong lol.
>
> They don't have any of it wrong. Once upon a
> time, there were two Lee Highways in Arlington.
> Later, one of them became Arlington Boulevard in
> an attempt to end the confusion. Keep in mind
> that it was all named auto trails at the time.
> Numbered highways did not come along until 1926.
Auto Trails. That’s so funny. I didn’t know that.
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> steven warman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You should let VDOT know that they have all the
> signage wrong lol.
>
> They don't have any of it wrong. Once upon a
> time, there were two Lee Highways in Arlington.
> Later, one of them became Arlington Boulevard in
> an attempt to end the confusion. Keep in mind
> that it was all named auto trails at the time.
> Numbered highways did not come along until 1926.
Auto Trails. That’s so funny. I didn’t know that.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Spur
()
Date: December 26, 2015 09:12PM
Greybeard Wrote:
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> Oh, and 3-digit Interstates also follow a scheme:
> even first digit=loop (495, for example, leaves 95
> and rejoins); odd first digit=spur (395). I-270 is
> numbered wrong, too.
270 is numbered correctly. Your definition is wrong. An even number at the start of a 3-digit route denotes that the route will connect to another interstate route. Either a loop like 495, or a route like 270 that connects I-70 to I-495.
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> Oh, and 3-digit Interstates also follow a scheme:
> even first digit=loop (495, for example, leaves 95
> and rejoins); odd first digit=spur (395). I-270 is
> numbered wrong, too.
270 is numbered correctly. Your definition is wrong. An even number at the start of a 3-digit route denotes that the route will connect to another interstate route. Either a loop like 495, or a route like 270 that connects I-70 to I-495.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
()
Date: December 26, 2015 09:12PM
Ne'er the twain shall meet Wrote:
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> For one thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any
> money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
“forgotten” Ha
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> For one thing, Congress had forgotten to appropriate any
> money to build a road around Fort Myer. Oops.
“forgotten” Ha
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Greybeard
()
Date: December 26, 2015 09:26PM
Spur Wrote:
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> 270 is numbered correctly. Your definition is
> wrong. An even number at the start of a 3-digit
> route denotes that the route will connect to
> another interstate route. Either a loop like 495,
> or a route like 270 that connects I-70 to I-495.
Huh. I'd always heard it the way I cited it, but you could be right. OTOH, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System#Auxiliary_.28three-digit.29_Interstates_.28contiguous_U.S..29 seems to support what I said (" Circumferential and radial loop routes return to the parent, and are given an even first digit".
Maybe "circumferential/radial" was the original intent, is what the spec says, but at some point they decided to include "connector" (hence 270)?
Need a time machine to determine for sure :)
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> 270 is numbered correctly. Your definition is
> wrong. An even number at the start of a 3-digit
> route denotes that the route will connect to
> another interstate route. Either a loop like 495,
> or a route like 270 that connects I-70 to I-495.
Huh. I'd always heard it the way I cited it, but you could be right. OTOH, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System#Auxiliary_.28three-digit.29_Interstates_.28contiguous_U.S..29 seems to support what I said (" Circumferential and radial loop routes return to the parent, and are given an even first digit".
Maybe "circumferential/radial" was the original intent, is what the spec says, but at some point they decided to include "connector" (hence 270)?
Need a time machine to determine for sure :)
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
()
Date: December 26, 2015 09:46PM
In the last paragraph of this image, there is one part which doesn’t make sense. The part that says: “...US 50 (now VA 236)...” Is this correct?
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Greybeard
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Date: December 26, 2015 10:51PM
causeican Wrote:
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> In the last paragraph of this image, there is one
> part which doesn’t make sense. The part that
> says: “...US 50 (now VA 236)...” Is this
> correct?
I don't know the answer to this specifically, but it wouldn't surprise me. Unlike Interstates, US Routes were laid out as ways to get from point A to point B. So when roads change/improve, they often get rerouted. I've often been surprised when a route I take frequently suddenly goes a different way!
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> In the last paragraph of this image, there is one
> part which doesn’t make sense. The part that
> says: “...US 50 (now VA 236)...” Is this
> correct?
I don't know the answer to this specifically, but it wouldn't surprise me. Unlike Interstates, US Routes were laid out as ways to get from point A to point B. So when roads change/improve, they often get rerouted. I've often been surprised when a route I take frequently suddenly goes a different way!
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Fairfax Fred
()
Date: December 27, 2015 06:26AM
ADC map says Wrote:
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> Route 620 (Braddock Road) and Route 29 (Lee
> Highway) run east-west. They do not intersect.
> Route 28 (Sully/Centreville Road) runs north-south
> and intersects each of the other two. All three
> are right where they've been for decades.
You must be a youngin'. All of those roads intersected prior to the mid 80s.
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> Route 620 (Braddock Road) and Route 29 (Lee
> Highway) run east-west. They do not intersect.
> Route 28 (Sully/Centreville Road) runs north-south
> and intersects each of the other two. All three
> are right where they've been for decades.
You must be a youngin'. All of those roads intersected prior to the mid 80s.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Fairfax Fred
()
Date: December 27, 2015 06:46AM
Route 28 runs north south doesn't it? Seems like that road should be odd numbered.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
blanche
()
Date: December 27, 2015 08:53AM
When we went out to Manassas in the 70s to go to the PWC Fair or Old Dominion Speedway (RIP), we would drive out Braddock and it would end at a light -- to pick up on the other side of 28-- then make a left on Lee Highway (Route 29) and then make another quick left onto Centreville Road (Route 28). It was an odd intersection that is pictured in the 1953 historical aerial. I think 28 must have been realigned at some point, perhaps when I-66 was built.
Everything changed with the building up of the area and the huge intersection of 29 & 28 being built. New Braddock Road was where Braddock Road was realigned to meet up with 28 at the corner with the movie theatres and not be yet another problem with the 28/29 mess.
Mountain View High School for troubled teens was the old Centreville ES that was on old Braddock Road and moved out on Centreville Road back in the early 90s. The Girls Scouts has property next to CES that is probably a bunch of McMansions now.
Route 29 does travel east/west through our metropolitan area, but for the most part it is a north/south road.
Everything changed with the building up of the area and the huge intersection of 29 & 28 being built. New Braddock Road was where Braddock Road was realigned to meet up with 28 at the corner with the movie theatres and not be yet another problem with the 28/29 mess.
Mountain View High School for troubled teens was the old Centreville ES that was on old Braddock Road and moved out on Centreville Road back in the early 90s. The Girls Scouts has property next to CES that is probably a bunch of McMansions now.
Route 29 does travel east/west through our metropolitan area, but for the most part it is a north/south road.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
()
Date: December 27, 2015 09:07AM
Thanks blanche for your description of how Braddock use to meet 28 and 29. That really draws the picture so I can see it.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
()
Date: December 27, 2015 09:15AM
I found this picture of Braddock and 29. Looks like 80s to me. The Amoco was on the northbound side and the Merchants tire outlet was on the southbound side.
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Memories
()
Date: December 27, 2015 10:05AM
steven warman Wrote:
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> I found this picture of Braddock and 29. Looks
> like 80s to me. The Amoco was on the northbound
> side and the Merchants tire outlet was on the
> southbound side.
Was this a Esso/Exxon station before it was an Amoco?
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> I found this picture of Braddock and 29. Looks
> like 80s to me. The Amoco was on the northbound
> side and the Merchants tire outlet was on the
> southbound side.
Was this a Esso/Exxon station before it was an Amoco?
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
toe jamb driver
()
Date: December 27, 2015 12:19PM
causeican Wrote:
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> Learn something new everyday. I always thought it
> was east-west.
Could you imagine driving the entire route 29 from Baltimore to Florida? I bet there are like 2000 stop lights!
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> Learn something new everyday. I always thought it
> was east-west.
Could you imagine driving the entire route 29 from Baltimore to Florida? I bet there are like 2000 stop lights!
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
()
Date: December 27, 2015 06:13PM
VDOT plans on extending Heron Drive over 66. They also plan on eliminating the 28/Braddock/Walney interchange, replacing with a bridge. Perhaps part of this goal is to realign Braddock.
Source: http://tinyurl.com/n9vcng4
Source: http://tinyurl.com/n9vcng4
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Spur
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Date: December 27, 2015 06:37PM
Greybeard Wrote:
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> Huh. I'd always heard it the way I cited it, but
> you could be right. OTOH,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_S
> ystem#Auxiliary_.28three-digit.29_Interstates_.28c
> ontiguous_U.S..29 seems to support what I said ("
> Circumferential and radial loop routes return to
> the parent, and are given an even first digit".
>
> Maybe "circumferential/radial" was the original
> intent, is what the spec says, but at some point
> they decided to include "connector" (hence 270)?
>
> Need a time machine to determine for sure :)
Here's a good site for roadgeeks
http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/3di-primer.html
"An even starting digit (such as I-210 or I-465) means the 3-digit interstate (3di) meets another interstate at both ends (or is a loop). These are usually bypasses or beltway routes.
An odd starting digit (such as I-195) means the 3-digit interstate meets an interstate highway at only one end. These are usually spurs from a main interstate to a location some short distance away.
The rules for 3di numbers differ from 2di's. First, the "even is east/west and odd is north/south" rule does not apply, because a parent interstate and its 3di often go in different directions. Second, a 3di number is not unique nationwide -- only within the same state."
There are some interesting exceptions to this, but none around here.
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> Huh. I'd always heard it the way I cited it, but
> you could be right. OTOH,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_S
> ystem#Auxiliary_.28three-digit.29_Interstates_.28c
> ontiguous_U.S..29 seems to support what I said ("
> Circumferential and radial loop routes return to
> the parent, and are given an even first digit".
>
> Maybe "circumferential/radial" was the original
> intent, is what the spec says, but at some point
> they decided to include "connector" (hence 270)?
>
> Need a time machine to determine for sure :)
Here's a good site for roadgeeks
http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/3di-primer.html
"An even starting digit (such as I-210 or I-465) means the 3-digit interstate (3di) meets another interstate at both ends (or is a loop). These are usually bypasses or beltway routes.
An odd starting digit (such as I-195) means the 3-digit interstate meets an interstate highway at only one end. These are usually spurs from a main interstate to a location some short distance away.
The rules for 3di numbers differ from 2di's. First, the "even is east/west and odd is north/south" rule does not apply, because a parent interstate and its 3di often go in different directions. Second, a 3di number is not unique nationwide -- only within the same state."
There are some interesting exceptions to this, but none around here.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 27, 2015 07:16PM
Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> VDOT plans on extending Heron Drive over 66. They
> also plan on eliminating the 28/Braddock/Walney
> interchange, replacing with a bridge. Perhaps part
> of this goal is to realign Braddock.
>
> Source: http://tinyurl.com/n9vcng4
Good to hear. Way overdue.
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> VDOT plans on extending Heron Drive over 66. They
> also plan on eliminating the 28/Braddock/Walney
> interchange, replacing with a bridge. Perhaps part
> of this goal is to realign Braddock.
>
> Source: http://tinyurl.com/n9vcng4
Good to hear. Way overdue.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 27, 2015 07:45PM
Greybeard Wrote:
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> causeican Wrote:
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> > In the last paragraph of this image, there is
> one
> > part which doesn’t make sense. The part that
> > says: “...US 50 (now VA 236)...” Is this
> > correct?
>
> I don't know the answer to this specifically, but
> it wouldn't surprise me. Unlike Interstates, US
> Routes were laid out as ways to get from point A
> to point B. So when roads change/improve, they
> often get rerouted. I've often been surprised when
> a route I take frequently suddenly goes a
> different way!
Here it is again: The address at the bottom of this image refers to Main Street as “(Rt 50)”. Does anyone remember the Fairfax Lodge nursing home and where it was located?
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> causeican Wrote:
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> > In the last paragraph of this image, there is
> one
> > part which doesn’t make sense. The part that
> > says: “...US 50 (now VA 236)...” Is this
> > correct?
>
> I don't know the answer to this specifically, but
> it wouldn't surprise me. Unlike Interstates, US
> Routes were laid out as ways to get from point A
> to point B. So when roads change/improve, they
> often get rerouted. I've often been surprised when
> a route I take frequently suddenly goes a
> different way!
Here it is again: The address at the bottom of this image refers to Main Street as “(Rt 50)”. Does anyone remember the Fairfax Lodge nursing home and where it was located?
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Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
old FC guy
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Date: December 27, 2015 08:11PM
1954, middle of town.
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Posted by:
HmKHx
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Date: December 27, 2015 08:24PM
Awesome posts steven warman, thank you for the history.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
HmKHx
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Date: December 27, 2015 08:27PM
You too old FC guy. Is this facing east? TTs on the left or whatever it was then????
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Times Have Changed
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Date: December 27, 2015 08:31PM
toe jamb driver Wrote:
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> Could you imagine driving the entire route 29 from Baltimore to Florida?
> I bet there are like 2000 stop lights!
Did NYC to Vero Beach several times in the 1950's via Route-1. It took three days with overnights in Fredericksburg and Savannah, but it seemed like a perfectly marvelous thing to be able to do at the time.
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> Could you imagine driving the entire route 29 from Baltimore to Florida?
> I bet there are like 2000 stop lights!
Did NYC to Vero Beach several times in the 1950's via Route-1. It took three days with overnights in Fredericksburg and Savannah, but it seemed like a perfectly marvelous thing to be able to do at the time.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
HmKHx
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Date: December 27, 2015 08:35PM
Hi Times Have Changed,
I just did Fairfax to the middle Keys, took two days for me driving alone using interstates. Yours DEFINITELY doesn't sound bad for the times.
Good travels and thanks for the post!
I just did Fairfax to the middle Keys, took two days for me driving alone using interstates. Yours DEFINITELY doesn't sound bad for the times.
Good travels and thanks for the post!
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
old
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Date: December 27, 2015 10:50PM
Times Have Changed Wrote:
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> toe jamb driver Wrote:
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> > Could you imagine driving the entire route 29
> from Baltimore to Florida?
> > I bet there are like 2000 stop lights!
>
> Did NYC to Vero Beach several times in the 1950's
> via Route-1. It took three days with overnights
> in Fredericksburg and Savannah, but it seemed like
> a perfectly marvelous thing to be able to do at
> the time.
Me too (DC to FL before I-95). It did take a long time but it wasn't because of traffic lights. They were rare outside of urban areas.
I predict that I-95 will continue to deteriorate to the point that travel times will revert to those of the 50's-60's.
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> toe jamb driver Wrote:
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> -----
> > Could you imagine driving the entire route 29
> from Baltimore to Florida?
> > I bet there are like 2000 stop lights!
>
> Did NYC to Vero Beach several times in the 1950's
> via Route-1. It took three days with overnights
> in Fredericksburg and Savannah, but it seemed like
> a perfectly marvelous thing to be able to do at
> the time.
Me too (DC to FL before I-95). It did take a long time but it wasn't because of traffic lights. They were rare outside of urban areas.
I predict that I-95 will continue to deteriorate to the point that travel times will revert to those of the 50's-60's.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
236 Faceing West
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Date: December 27, 2015 11:03PM
>You too old FC guy. Is this facing east? TTs on the left or whatever it was then????
Old Jim Mckay Chevy dealer showroom window on the left at corner with University. Then the gas station on left by the light at 123 , Court House barely seen at top of hill on left.
DAJAX Been round a while..but only since 1970.."Johnny Come Lately"
Old Jim Mckay Chevy dealer showroom window on the left at corner with University. Then the gas station on left by the light at 123 , Court House barely seen at top of hill on left.
DAJAX Been round a while..but only since 1970.."Johnny Come Lately"
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Greybeard
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Date: December 27, 2015 11:04PM
Fairfax Fred Wrote:
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> Route 28 runs north south doesn't it? Seems like
> that road should be odd numbered.
28 is a STATE route. Doesn't follow US Route or Interstate rules.
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> Route 28 runs north south doesn't it? Seems like
> that road should be odd numbered.
28 is a STATE route. Doesn't follow US Route or Interstate rules.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
blanche
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Date: December 28, 2015 06:07AM
The picture with the Amoco station in it has old Centreville ES in the background now Mountain View High.
That area's roads were reconfigured with all the new shopping centers and apartments that were built in Centreville since the late 70s/early 80s.
There was nothing going out Lee Highway from Fairfax City -- except the drive-in and Virginia City.
That area's roads were reconfigured with all the new shopping centers and apartments that were built in Centreville since the late 70s/early 80s.
There was nothing going out Lee Highway from Fairfax City -- except the drive-in and Virginia City.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 28, 2015 08:54AM
What side of 29 is that Amoco station on - north or south? If you are the camera, will you take a right to 28 or a left?
It just looks like it’s on the south side and you take a right to 28. Like the Amoco in the picture is where the IHOP is now
It just looks like it’s on the south side and you take a right to 28. Like the Amoco in the picture is where the IHOP is now
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 28, 2015 01:28PM
As i recall the Amoco was on the northbound side. That road next to that little well shack on the right is braddock road eastbound. Looks like the picture was taken from the merchants clearance store which was at one time a gas station with two bays. If you are the camera you would turn right to go toward Gainesville on 29-211 and cross 28. I moved to Centreville in 1978 and remember it well.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Kutner Park House
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Date: December 28, 2015 05:35PM
I am pretty sure the Fairfax House shown above was the building in Kutner Park before it was demolished in the early 80's. The address given would put it in that area, between the Kamp Washington intersection and Jermantown Rd on the north side of Main St (Rt 50 after Kamp Washington going west).
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 28, 2015 11:16PM
Thanks! That’s really good information.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
Uber Driver
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Date: December 28, 2015 11:41PM
Awesome posts steven warman, thank you for the history.
The Alibi was located right next to the fire dept, When I was a student at Mason me and some buddies went to the place. The owner was a Korean guy named Ike. Place was empty on a Friday night. Ike was going under so we convinced him to host a party for Mason students. He agreed and we packed the house. Ran out of booze after a couple of hours and the fire dept came in because the place was over capacity. Think he was out of business a couple of weeks later
Used to go to the Library as well. back in the day there were always huge lines going up the stairs to main street. Think the manager at the time was a guy named Jimmy. Used to give him a few bucks to bypass the line.
Thanks for the memories
The Alibi was located right next to the fire dept, When I was a student at Mason me and some buddies went to the place. The owner was a Korean guy named Ike. Place was empty on a Friday night. Ike was going under so we convinced him to host a party for Mason students. He agreed and we packed the house. Ran out of booze after a couple of hours and the fire dept came in because the place was over capacity. Think he was out of business a couple of weeks later
Used to go to the Library as well. back in the day there were always huge lines going up the stairs to main street. Think the manager at the time was a guy named Jimmy. Used to give him a few bucks to bypass the line.
Thanks for the memories
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 29, 2015 12:17AM
steven warman Wrote:
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> As i recall the Amoco was on the northbound side.
> That road next to that little well shack on the
> right is braddock road eastbound. Looks like the
> picture was taken from the merchants clearance
> store which was at one time a gas station with two
> bays. If you are the camera you would turn right
> to go toward Gainesville on 29-211 and cross 28. I
> moved to Centreville in 1978 and remember it well.
You see? If you are turning right to Gainesville, Amoco is on south side. That’s what confused me.
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> As i recall the Amoco was on the northbound side.
> That road next to that little well shack on the
> right is braddock road eastbound. Looks like the
> picture was taken from the merchants clearance
> store which was at one time a gas station with two
> bays. If you are the camera you would turn right
> to go toward Gainesville on 29-211 and cross 28. I
> moved to Centreville in 1978 and remember it well.
You see? If you are turning right to Gainesville, Amoco is on south side. That’s what confused me.
Re: Old pictures of Fairfax county, love em!
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 29, 2015 12:26AM
I love this website: http://fairfaxcountygis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=0612f9deb6bb4f0a9fa5cdce0cc75144
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Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 29, 2015 12:55AM
I don’t know if this is right. I’m guessing.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/2015 01:19AM by causeican.
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Posted by:
reverse angle
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Date: December 29, 2015 01:27AM
Reverse angle on that Amoco picture. pic is looking south (toward Gainesville) If you look closely you can see the sign for the SCOT gas station. I think most old time Centrevillians remember the tiny SCOT station. Amoco is on northbound side and SCOT on the southbound side. The stoplight in the picture is the Braddock road/29-211 intersection.
There is a picture of another SCOT station on page 15 on this thread, second pic from the top.
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There is a picture of another SCOT station on page 15 on this thread, second pic from the top.
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Posted by:
causeican
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Date: December 29, 2015 01:37AM
It will be too bad when they develop that ridge and spoil the view. Google image dated 2012
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Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 29, 2015 01:42AM
A little furthur south on 29/211 you can see the Phillips 66 station that was in front of the Centreville Giant food shopping center. Some time in recent history I noticed that sign or one just like it was still there. Since this road is no longer 211 west it seems to me that the signage is wrong as 211 is the road to New Market.
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Posted by:
steven warman
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Date: December 29, 2015 01:49AM
Another shot of the 29/211 and route 28 intersection looking toward Fairfax you can see our old McDonalds and Exxon. There sure were a lot of gas stations in Centreville!
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