Re: Jesus Christ is Lord !
Posted by:
WashingToneLocian
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Date: March 27, 2008 04:33PM
Tia2 Wrote:
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> You are very LITERAL aren't you...
>
> In any event:
>
> 1. "So God is complicit in evil so he is, in
> fact, evil."
> This response was to the INTRODUCTION of my post
> that was going to be an atte"mpt to answer your
> question. It was not meant to promote a
> retort...
>
Well, it did. You haven't clarified how God isn't evil when he is aiding and abetting Satan.
> 2. "No. They chose knowledge. The serpent isn't
> Satan because it was in the Old Testament and Jews
> don't believe in Satan."
> Jews believe in God and agree that Jesus existed
> but do not believe him to be the son of God. Adam
> and Eve chose to FOLLOW SATAN, plain and simple.
>
They listened to a serpent. The Jews follow the Old Testament and don't believe in Satan.
> 3. "And yet God gave us "free will," in direct
> opposition to this."
> Free will is not in opposition of the statement
> above. Free will was God's gift to us, and he
> gave it to us with the hope that we would
> continually choose good over evil. Your argument
> is mute...
>
It's not "free will" when one is a choice and one is damnation. People are being compelled under duress to choose one or face hell.
> 4. "Did he have to create Satan and evil to do
> this? I mean, God created the choice between good
> and evil. Sounds to me like some sort of mind game
> meant to torment humanity for God's edification."
>
> You need to read the bible again so as to jog your
> memory about the creation/beginning of Satan.
> Secondly, how can man choose between good and
> evil; how can man learn the difference between
> good and evil; how can man understand the
> differences between good and evil if man is not
> exposed to evil? It's not a mean mind game, it's
> life's lesson.
>
God created everything. Hence, God created evil.
> 5. "Okay, so Hitler was doing God's bidding,
> right?"
> Wrong - Hitler made the WRONG decision - he chose
> evil, he chose to follow Satan. What Hitler did
> was not GOD'S BIDDING, his actions were his own.
> FREE WILL!
>
He was trying to assert his authority over creation, as you said. Anytime anyone does something like that, innocent people will die. Your assertion is in direct conflict with being good.
> 6. "Tia - Once again, how many child molesters
> have you allowed into your home to play with your
> kids? Obviously God is evil, too,"
> Firstly, I don't have children. Secondly, I admit
> that I was born into this world ignorant and void
> of ability to understand the differences between
> good and evil. Hopefully I have learned a few
> things along the way, and if I had children I
> believe that I would be able to honestly answer
> your question, "none!" God is not evil - he is a
> teacher. Those who have chosen the wrong path,
> made the wrong decision, exercised the gift of
> free will to do the wrong thing - they are evil.
>
>
God created evil. Do you deny God created evil? How could someone who is good create evil? If God did not create evil, then the Bible is errant when it says he is all powerful.
> 7. "So what you are saying is that as long a one
> person is evil or believes in something other than
> Jesus then Jesus won't return, correct? So that
> must mean that it is okay to kill Jews, Muslims,
> Buddhists, Hindus, etc, to bring back Jesus,
> right? But that wouldn't be evil?"
> WOW, what a mis-interpretation. "WHEN Jesus
> returns" are the first 3 words of the statement.
> His return is not dependent on anything. The
> statement further indicates that anyone who has
> fallen under Satan's influence will be given the
> opportunity and the guidance needed so that any
> damage done can be reversed. God is forgiving,
> and if an "evil" person repents their sins, all
> will be forgiven. Muslims, Hindus etc are all
> God's children and killing anyone is WRONG. The
> one thing that all of these religions have in
> common is that their followers all believe in a
> higher being; so unless they refuse to ask
> forgivness for their sins (evil
> actions/decisions/words etc) that they have
> executed during their lives, they too will be
> accepted and embraced by him.
Even if that Sin is believing in God but not believing in Jesus?