Any clues?

I've spent a day now surfing through thousands of pics. Could be Roman...but I can't find anything close. Could be from Pompeii or Parthian or Justinian.

I'm at a loss and am trying to help out a friend.
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Appears to be a Centaur, on the reverse side. Was Centaur a legendary myth in Roman or Greek culture. Should bathe it in a ultra-sound bath, to reveal more detail. Or a solution of salt and vingar.

I've always heard go not clean coins as it diminishes the value. Check with a coin place before doing that.

http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/37684.php



32 euros is not a whole lot of bucks for something that apparently is quite similar.

Do a Google Image search for "centaur coin" - lots of hits.

If it was gold, it would not have a patena and be very valuable. That metal must be brass/bronze or copper.

cameocoinsonline.com

cameo coins and collectibles
444 maple ave vienna va 22180
(703)281-7053

I'll give you 5 dollars for it.

^^
What a fuckin jipp!!



I'll give you 6 dollars for it.

Looks like a new way for kids to abuse pennies. Maybe they put them in the microwave in a stack.
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Take it to Rick's pawn shop from Pawn Stars

I'll give you, Oh I mean your "friend" (right,lol) 6 dollars and 2 bits.

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> Any clues?
>
> I've spent a day now surfing through thousands of
> pics. Could be Roman...but I can't find anything
> close. Could be from Pompeii or Parthian or
> Justinian.
>
> I'm at a loss and am trying to help out a friend.


If you register at this forum:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php

and post the images in the "Identification Help" section, I'm sure someone will either identify it for you, or narrow it down to particular era/geographic region. A lot of traffic on that board, and they know their stuff.

PS: Read this before asking for ID help:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=18398.0

Good luck, and let us know if you find out. I'm curious. It looks quite ancient, and I'd guess BCE, but have no idea really.

I think it's one of these
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^^
the table minimum is a dollar you cheap piece of shit

NOBODY RAISES ME!
I raise it to 7 Fuck this dude sell it to me

cheapo Wrote:
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> ^^
> the table minimum is a dollar you cheap piece of
> shit
>
> NOBODY RAISES ME!
> I raise it to 7 Fuck this dude sell it to me


Sold for 7 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> Take it to Rick's pawn shop from Pawn Stars

Someone I work with went to Vegas, stood in line at that place for 6 hours on a Saturday and was told the guys on tv only work limited hours during the week.

As an aside, I wish they'd lose at least 50 pounds each. They all look like a heart attack is imminent.

6X Wrote:
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> Looks like a new way for kids to abuse pennies.
> Maybe they put them in the microwave in a stack.


ur a dumb bitch what if a child reads this and then tries that shit?


u could go to jail

jbalo Wrote:
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> As an aside, I wish they'd lose at least 50 pounds
> each. They all look like a heart attack is
> imminent.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2013899/Las-Vegas-pawn-star-Corey-Harrisons-staggering-115lb-weight-loss.html

Olde Farte Wrote:
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> jbalo Wrote:
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> > As an aside, I wish they'd lose at least 50
> pounds
> > each. They all look like a heart attack is
> > imminent.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-20138
> 99/Las-Vegas-pawn-star-Corey-Harrisons-staggering-
> 115lb-weight-loss.html

Guess I should watch more before I speak! Does that mean the rest of them are still fat?

Could be Wrote:
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> Appears to be a Centaur, on the reverse side. Was
> Centaur a legendary myth in Roman or Greek
> culture.

Oddly enough it was used in both cultures. The Greeks for obvious reasons, the Romans because they liked to incorporate a little of whatever country they invaded in their coinage.

Olde Farte Wrote:
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> 32 euros is not a whole lot of bucks for something
> that apparently is quite similar.

I have come to realize that there are literally thousands of differnt coins available for sale that are similar to this one right here in the US. Some go for hundreds, most for $10-15. Evidently when you stack up hundreds of different rulers and civilizations in one area, these sorts of things tend to be plentiful.

Not Gold Wrote:
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> If it was gold, it would not have a patena and be
> very valuable. That metal must be brass/bronze or
> copper.

It's copper and not very valuable for something made between 64 BC and 600 AD. We've been trained to believe anything 234 years old is an antique. Those people have been there for milleniums.

Raise i Wrote:
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> I'll give you, Oh I mean your "friend" (right,lol)
> 6 dollars and 2 bits.

Sorry. It's my friends. I haven't been to Iraq/Babylon lately. Or ever actually.

try these guys Wrote:
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> cameocoinsonline.com
>
> cameo coins and collectibles
> 444 maple ave vienna va 22180
> (703)281-7053

Lord R. Finch-Beak Wrote:
> If you register at this forum:
> http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php
>
> and post the images in the "Identification Help"
> section, I'm sure someone will either identify it
> for you, or narrow it down to particular
> era/geographic region. A lot of traffic on that
> board, and they know their stuff.
>
> PS: Read this before asking for ID help:
> http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?t
> opic=18398.0
>
> Good luck, and let us know if you find out. I'm
> curious. It looks quite ancient, and I'd guess
> BCE, but have no idea really.

I'll give both of these a shot, thanks.

Right now I'm leaning towards Roman (since they controlled most of the known world for so long and because they were pretty cheap..and it's copper). He has a few more I've managed to date back to 64BCE but the really odd thing is while they're struck the same way, the detail on the older ones is incredible.

I've also learned there was a lot of sons killing fathers back then so they could take over and rule. While they didn't take the old coins out of circulation, they did immediately flood the market with hundreds of their own with their own likeness on them.

In a lot of cases, governors and even private wealthy citizens made up their own coins. You didn't have to be a king or an emperor.

It's been a very enlightening journey so far. If I ever find out, I'll be sure to share what I find.

Well you do have quite a pc of history in your possession. I give you credit for taking an interest and researching and sharing the results and knowledge with us. I mean I've certainly learned something, like the lack of a centralized mint during that era.

dont do it Wrote:
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> 6X Wrote:
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> > Looks like a new way for kids to abuse pennies.
> > Maybe they put them in the microwave in a
> stack.
>
>
> ur a dumb bitch what if a child reads this and
> then tries that shit?
>
>
> u could go to jail

Yeah, eesh, I just made it up.

If I owned a coin that old, regardless the dollar value placed on it by a coin dealer, I'd have it inside one of these inside a knick-knack display case.

Whatever you do dont clean it. That is a sure way to reduce the value.

simon cheapstein Wrote:
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> Whatever you do dont clean it. That is a sure way
> to reduce the value.


That holds true with alot of antiques, but I don't know about dirty coins. It is the blue/green patina found on copper/bronze/brass that matters. The patina adds beauty to the item. That coins is mostly surface dirt which is not a patina.