No, I write this way from force of habit. Just as one is what one eats, one is also what one reads. One tends to write as one reads; I switched to British spelling almost unconsciously since most of what I read is from the Continent.

As for why I dropped, there were three factors in play:
-The SMART grant was eliminated, meaning I would have to either spend or borrow and extra $4K/yr
-The University of Idaho dropped the ball on an online senior level engineering class for which I eventually received a refund. I was to transfer there to complete my education.
-I ran the numbers and concluded that it would be unwise to continue the education if I invested the tuition money instead.

I notice you and others have tossed around 'pseudo-intellectual' without meeting any semblance of a burden of proof. It reeks of your jealousy, like a pigeon gazing upon a falcon. Therefore, I will not address your allegations and instead advise you to keep scrolling when you see my posts if they offend you so.

eesh wrote something of no great importance:
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> Ellipsis,
>
> I noticed you said earlier that you dropped out of
> college. Do you write the way you do as
> compensation for your personal failure?
>
> As far as the pseudo-intellectual comment I made
> earlier, either definition would fit you.

eesh Wrote:
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> Ellipsis,
>
> I noticed you said earlier that you dropped out of
> college. Do you write the way you do as
> compensation for your personal failure?
>
> As far as the pseudo-intellectual comment I made
> earlier, either definition would fit you.


Talking about personal failure. WoW

You want the truth you cant handle the truth.

A four year college degree is about the same as a high school diploma these days.
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Col Jessup Wrote:
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> You want the truth you cant handle the truth.
>
> A four year college degree is about the same as a
> high school diploma these days.

And therein lies one of the real tragedy of the American educational system.

So you are saying that the person who was careful with their money should bail you out for your bad luck in the short term. The US Census has determined that the average college gradate will earn more that $500K more over their life time. So I believe you should be able to pay back your $53K with no problem. Also, many (not all) people I know who got those loans have used the extra money to spend on cars and even schooling abroad. Lets forgive your loan because you want to shaft high school graduates who could not go to college.

Let me do this right Glebe RD ...

So you are saying that the person who was careful with their money should bail you out for your bad luck in the SHORT TERM. The US Census has determined that the average college gradate will earn more that $500K more than the average high school graduate over their life time. So I believe you should be able to pay back your $53K with no problem. Lets forgive your loan because you want to shaft high school graduates who could not or chose not go to college. Lets also force those who chose to defend our country to help you pay for your new house ($53K is a great down payment).

Finally, many (not all) people I know who got those loans have used the extra money to spend on cars and even schooling abroad.


Glebe RD Wrote:
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> I have over $53,000 in student loans from GWU. I
> look for a job maybe a few times a week and I
> apply to one or two a week. My debt is mounting
> because I cannot make payments because I do not
> have a job. To be honest I am not about to work a
> retail job to pay for my bills beacuse I have a
> degree in marketing. I am one of probably hundreds
> of thousands that cannot find a job after
> graduation. We need our debt forgiven because I
> can't have this over my head when I plan on
> beginning my career. It is not fair.

Ellipsis Wrote:
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> I do not see any more reason to apply to pay for a
> class than to apply to buy an apple.




LOL! It's not about paying for the class, admissions is about setting standards, you don't seem to understand this.

Ellipsis Wrote:
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> -The University of Idaho dropped the ball on an
> online senior level engineering class for which I
> eventually received a refund. I was to transfer
> there to complete my education.



1.) If you hadn't transferred there yet, why did you pay for a course?

2.) If the online class wasn't available, couldn't you just take the regular classroom based course?

1. It was online/correspondence and was required for my diploma. I am of the mind that one should distribute the senior classes as evenly as possible in order to avoid constraints later.

2. Firstly, I am not in Idaho, and secondly, the local state college does not offer proper engineering courses, only 'engineering technology' courses that were rejected for transfer with the exception of the basics.

eesh Wrote:
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> Ellipsis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > -The University of Idaho dropped the ball on an
> > online senior level engineering class for which
> I
> > eventually received a refund. I was to
> transfer
> > there to complete my education.
>
>
>
> 1.) If you hadn't transferred there yet, why did
> you pay for a course?
>
> 2.) If the online class wasn't available, couldn't
> you just take the regular classroom based course?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2011 06:50PM by Ellipsis.

There is nothing sacred about sitting in a classroom, nor does money changing hands sanctify...or do you wish to enact standards for those who purchase apples too?

eesh Wrote:
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> Ellipsis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I do not see any more reason to apply to pay for
> a
> > class than to apply to buy an apple.
>
> LOL! It's not about paying for the class,
> admissions is about setting standards, you don't
> seem to understand this.

Why don't you people take Dave's advice and go deliver pizza, get rid off your fancy car, fancy phone, latest Xbox , have one big yard sale and pay off some of your school loans.

I am using the subsidised student loans as margin at 4,5% and have since doubled the money in question. The loans at 6,8% are long gone.

Dave Ramsey's fan Wrote:
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> Why don't you people take Dave's advice and go
> deliver pizza, get rid off your fancy car, fancy
> phone, latest Xbox , have one big yard sale and
> pay off some of your school loans.

Dave Ramsey's fan Wrote:
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> Why don't you people take Dave's advice and go
> deliver pizza, get rid off your fancy car, fancy
> phone, latest Xbox , have one big yard sale and
> pay off some of your school loans.

It's Gen Y privileged, entitled nonsense. When their parents wise up and kick them out of the house and they start to get hungry they'll get jobs appropriate to their skill set in what today's economy values them at. Then they can begin to pay back the money they borrowed to drink and major in Hungarian Literature.

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Virginia - average student debt just under $20K

source - http://projectonstudentdebt.org/state_by_state-data.php

> go deliver pizza

Enormous numbers of applicants, nowhere near enough available openings for unskilled positions

> get rid off your fancy car, fancy phone, latest Xbox , have one big yard sale and pay off some of your school loans.

Prove that indebted students have fancy cars and you might have a valid point. I am not speaking of students in general, which include trust fund babies, I am speaking of indebted students...that is the burden you will meet. Even if I had a fancy telephone or an x-box to sell, it would hardly make a dent in the above $20K.

> Why don't you people take Dave's advice

Because it is full of shit, just like a fan I could mention

disgruntled student Wrote:
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> > go deliver pizza
>
> Enormous numbers of applicants, nowhere near
> enough available openings for unskilled positions


Where? Here? If one just graduated and there aren't unskilled positions in Fairfax County, one of the most expensive places to live in the country, what is holding the person here? Why not check Richmond, VA Beach/Norfolk areas, Petersburg, Lynchburg and other areas? Widen it to Charlotte NC if you want to be within range of home. Those areas will likely have lower rent as well. Anyone saying there are zero jobs of any type in the entire state for a healthy 23-year-old isn't looking hard enough.

Anywhere. The unemployment is much closer to 20% nationwide than 9%.

I did not talk about rents, so do not change the subject and then rattle on.

justsayin Wrote:
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> disgruntled student Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > go deliver pizza
> >
> > Enormous numbers of applicants, nowhere near
> > enough available openings for unskilled
> positions
>
>
> Where? Here? If one just graduated and there
> aren't unskilled positions in Fairfax County, one
> of the most expensive places to live in the
> country, what is holding the person here? Why not
> check Richmond, VA Beach/Norfolk areas,
> Petersburg, Lynchburg and other areas? Widen it
> to Charlotte NC if you want to be within range of
> home. Those areas will likely have lower rent as
> well. Anyone saying there are zero jobs of any
> type in the entire state for a healthy 23-year-old
> isn't looking hard enough.

It is an employers market, that is for sure. However, I feel that people are not being tenacious enough about finding employment. I went for a bike ride today through Reston and Fairfax and I saw help wanted signs popped up in a bunch of store fronts. The market is saturated with applicants, but people are still finding a way to make that dollar, and opportunities are available.

Just don't try applying to Borders or any bookstores. I hear those are on the decline.

Argus Wrote:
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> It is an employers market, that is for sure.
> However, I feel that people are not being
> tenacious enough about finding employment. I went
> for a bike ride today through Reston and Fairfax
> and I saw help wanted signs popped up in a bunch
> of store fronts. The market is saturated with
> applicants, but people are still finding a way to
> make that dollar, and opportunities are
> available.
>
> Just don't try applying to Borders or any
> bookstores. I hear those are on the decline.


Argus "Borders or any bookstores" You just want the safe and nice places to work. Walmart is too tough for you, non intellectual and lot of non whites around you. Scared you might get mistaken for one them and dont' want that inferior entry on your resume. You took out a student loan because you are dirt poor and your family is dirt poor so Walmart shouldn't be a great embarassment to you. BTW I didn't take out or need a student loan, my dirt poor parents saved and planned for me and the shortfalls I made up my self by working (dishwashing/serving) in a lowly and great restaurant.

I'm reviewing and choosing contractor applicants for my agency new two year IT/IM worktask. Seventeen positions available and 107 submitted resumes and I only chosen only seven so far. It is not "competitive" out there any more it is desperate to find a suitable jobs. My number one choosing factor is work experience, the degrees and school don't mean a thing to me because I want results. Make yourself desperate and you will find a job.

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dika-dika Wrote:
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> Argus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is an employers market, that is for sure.
> > However, I feel that people are not being
> > tenacious enough about finding employment. I
> went
> > for a bike ride today through Reston and
> Fairfax
> > and I saw help wanted signs popped up in a
> bunch
> > of store fronts. The market is saturated with
> > applicants, but people are still finding a way
> to
> > make that dollar, and opportunities are
> > available.
> >
> > Just don't try applying to Borders or any
> > bookstores. I hear those are on the decline.
>
>
> Argus "Borders or any bookstores" You just want
> the safe and nice places to work. Walmart is too
> tough for you, non intellectual and lot of non
> whites around you. Scared you might get mistaken
> for one them and dont' want that inferior entry on
> your resume. You took out a student loan because
> you are dirt poor and your family is dirt poor so
> Walmart shouldn't be a great embarassment to you.
> BTW I didn't take out or need a student loan, my
> dirt poor parents saved and planned for me and the
> shortfalls I made up my self by working
> (dishwashing/serving) in a lowly and great
> restaurant.
>
> I'm reviewing and choosing contractor applicants
> for my agency new two year IT/IM worktask.
> Seventeen positions available and 107 submitted
> resumes and I only chosen seven so far. It
> is not "competitive" out there any more it is
> desperate to find a suitable jobs. My number one
> choosing factor is work experience, the degrees
> and school don't mean a thing to me because I want
> results. Make yourself desperate and you will
> find a job.

BTW again three of the chosen don't have a degree, great work experience/military. Don't know how much they will get paid by their company. I'm funding each at 150K a man year.

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dika-dika Wrote:
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> dika-dika Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Argus Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It is an employers market, that is for sure.
> > > However, I feel that people are not being
> > > tenacious enough about finding employment. I
> > went
> > > for a bike ride today through Reston and
> > Fairfax
> > > and I saw help wanted signs popped up in a
> > bunch
> > > of store fronts. The market is saturated with
> > > applicants, but people are still finding a
> way
> > to
> > > make that dollar, and opportunities are
> > > available.
> > >
> > > Just don't try applying to Borders or any
> > > bookstores. I hear those are on the decline.
> >
> >
> > Argus "Borders or any bookstores" You just want
> > the safe and nice places to work. Walmart is
> too
> > tough for you, non intellectual and lot of non
> > whites around you. Scared you might get
> mistaken
> > for one them and dont' want that inferior entry
> on
> > your resume. You took out a student loan
> because
> > you are dirt poor and your family is dirt poor
> so
> > Walmart shouldn't be a great embarassment to
> you.
> > BTW I didn't take out or need a student loan,
> my
> > dirt poor parents saved and planned for me and
> the
> > shortfalls I made up my self by working
> > (dishwashing/serving) in a lowly and great
> > restaurant.
> >
> > I'm reviewing and choosing contractor
> applicants
> > for my agency new two year IT/IM worktask.
> > Seventeen positions available and 107 submitted
> > resumes and I only chosen seven so far. It
> > is not "competitive" out there any more it is
> > desperate to find a suitable jobs. My number
> one
> > choosing factor is work experience, the degrees
> > and school don't mean a thing to me because I
> want
> > results. Make yourself desperate and you will
> > find a job.
>
> BTW again three of the chosen don't have a degree,
> great work experience/military. Don't know how
> much they will get paid by their company. I'm
> funding each at 150K a man year.


dika-dika, Sure you are. Just another phony.

How are things working out? Did you find a job?


> Glebe RD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have over $53,000 in student loans from GWU.
> I
> > look for a job maybe a few times a week and I
> > apply to one or two a week. My debt is mounting
> > because I cannot make payments because I do not
> > have a job. To be honest I am not about to work
> a
> > retail job to pay for my bills beacuse I have a
> > degree in marketing. I am one of probably
> hundreds
> > of thousands that cannot find a job after
> > graduation. We need our debt forgiven because I
> > can't have this over my head when I plan on
> > beginning my career. It is not fair.

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