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Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:31AM

In the future when they make a documentary about how Tesla changed transportation, it will include and display stupid backwards Republican opposition in it that occurred during its birth.

We will see Tesla was an innovative disruptive technological juggernaut. Naturally this posed great worry to the energy giants. As a result corrupt Republican whores and media pundits showed great disdain and did all they could to undermine the progress of Tesla.

In the end, the electric car persevered and the rest was history.

That's what they're going to say about you pieces of shit. God bless the electric car.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-11-05/tesla-projecting-several-years-of-50-percent-growth-sparks-share-surge
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Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: 62Vette ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:36AM

I have yet to see one on the road. Where the Hell are they?

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:38AM

They're all American, go buy one. Virginia I think wouldn't let them sell in the state. I don't know what the deal was. Protecting the bullshit dealerships.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Huh??? ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:40AM

Here's the problem...

A new Tesla model-S starts at $70,000. I could find a gently used Mercedes S-Class or BMW 7-series for $60,000, and have $10,000 left to spend on gas.

Tesla needs to figure out the mid-size (Tesla model-S is a full-size sedan) electric sedan for $30,000.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:47AM

Wait, isn't Tesla an evil corporation that makes money off of tax breaks just like Musks sole city and only provides a product only obtainable by the upper middle class and wealthy?
Figure Mark would plug them. He also loves Republican Ron Paul.
He's a stupid motherfucker and a loser like all libs.
You lost, we won, deal with it.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: DCProf ()
Date: November 06, 2014 08:03AM

LOLOL...the "Green" car that changed the world, that only the 1% can afford. Nice going libs...only the rich can afford it.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 08:05AM

I think Saudi Arabia is afraid of Tesla more than it is North Dakota.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: wrongg ()
Date: November 06, 2014 08:18AM

If Gerry says it is black, bet like hell that it is white. Loser is never right.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: GOP Hypocrisy ()
Date: November 06, 2014 09:07AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I think Saudi Arabia is afraid of Tesla more than
> it is North Dakota.

+1

It's crazy that states wont let Tesla sell in some cars. Who ever heard of only allowing franchises to sell cars.

More GOP bullshit legislation to stop small businesses and keep the big three car companies in power.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: DNC Idiocracy ()
Date: November 06, 2014 09:51AM

GOP Hypocrisy Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think Saudi Arabia is afraid of Tesla more
> than
> > it is North Dakota.
>
> +1
>
> It's crazy that states wont let Tesla sell in some
> cars. Who ever heard of only allowing franchises
> to sell cars.
>
> More GOP bullshit legislation to stop small
> businesses and keep the big three car companies in
> power.


Holy shit, are you really that dumb? No wonder the anti-business / anti-worker Democratic party lost so big. You're all a bunch of dummies. Thanks for posting, I got a great laugh!

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Henro ()
Date: November 06, 2014 10:41AM

The price will come down once they can scale up.
Cool looking car there is one tooling around in Chantilly.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Technowiz ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:00AM

Those things are pieces of shit, plagued with problems.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: leave the basement, son ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:04AM

62Vette Wrote:
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> I have yet to see one on the road. Where the Hell
> are they?


I see 1 - 2 almost everyday. A lot around Tysons and Mosaic.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Lived Here Forever ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:11AM

leave the basement, son Wrote:
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> 62Vette Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > I have yet to see one on the road. Where the
> Hell
> > are they?
>
>
> I see 1 - 2 almost everyday. A lot around Tysons
> and Mosaic.

Saw a Model S in the Springfield Chick-fil-A parking lot on Tues. I see at least 3 Leafs a week now.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:13AM

Back to reality:

Electricity is not free. It doesn't just magically appear when you flip the switch, but for you it does.

This ugly ass car costs 2-3 times more than a hybrid. But think about all that money you'll save in gas!

Yeah, real "redefining".

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: OP = butthurt. We get it. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:51AM

Why so mad bro? Faggot much?

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Slobbersaurus ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:55AM

Although Tesla is selling a few more cars every year, they are still losing a shit load of money. How long can they sustain that posture? Even wealthy people run out of money eventually when they arent making any.

This car will never be a mainstream success at it's current price range. Unless they can develop a vehicle the average Joe can afford, their business model is doomed. There are only so many 1%'ers out there.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Henro ()
Date: November 06, 2014 11:56AM

I have seen the hook-ups in garages and there is no meter, just plug it in and the spots are reserved for them.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:02PM

Rockhound Wrote:
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> Back to reality:
>
> Electricity is not free. It doesn't just magically
> appear when you flip the switch, but for you it
> does.
>
> This ugly ass car costs 2-3 times more than a
> hybrid. But think about all that money you'll save
> in gas!
>
> Yeah, real "redefining".

It's okay, Republicans are in control. We will fire up all those coal plants, start fracking like crazy, put people back to work and provide power for all the hybrid/electric liberal car owners that slam corporations (that don't create jobs according to Hillary) and at the same time give them tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to feel good.

lib, lib, lib, lib, lib.
Say it 5 times real fast, funny as shit.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: uhhh??? ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:06PM

Slobbersaurus Wrote:
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> Although Tesla is selling a few more cars every
> year, they are still losing a shit load of money.
> How long can they sustain that posture? Even
> wealthy people run out of money eventually when
> they arent making any.
>
> This car will never be a mainstream success at
> it's current price range. Unless they can develop
> a vehicle the average Joe can afford, their
> business model is doomed. There are only so many
> 1%'ers out there.

Tesla has been a cash flow positive company for over a year now.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: supercharger.. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:07PM

Henro Wrote:
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> I have seen the hook-ups in garages and there is
> no meter, just plug it in and the spots are
> reserved for them.


Tesla charging stations are free for all Tesla owners, forever.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: cash flow positive ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:13PM

Er, no.

Operations hasn't even come close.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Say what mofo? ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:18PM

uhhh??? Wrote:
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>
>
> Tesla has been a cash flow positive company for
> over a year now.

Tesla Motors posted a $49.8 million loss for the first quarter of 2014 as it prepared a new crossover utility vehicle and made improvements to its Model S electric sedan. The automaker built a total of 7,535 Model S sedans in the first quarter and delivered 6,457 models to customers, however higher cost led to the loss.

What is your definition of "cash flow positive".

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: , ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:27PM

When are they gonna make an affordable electric car that doesn't look gay as fuck? Until then, electric cars can eat a dick.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Hrundi V Bakshi ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:30PM

They are still getting investor funds. Once the investors realize this is going nowhere, they will stop throwing money down this hole.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Black Gold ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:32PM

Hrundi V Bakshi Wrote:
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> They are still getting investor funds. Once the
> investors realize this is going nowhere, they will
> stop throwing money down this hole.

+1

Not only this, but with the price of crude oil tanking and gas prices dropping like a rock, people will lose interest in electric cars REAL QUICK.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Rdef ()
Date: November 06, 2014 12:46PM

Tesla is selling more cars this then last year. Investors are happy.

Tesla is operating at a loss because of development of the three new models for next year expected to allow Tesla into the low end market.

Telsa is also facing tough sales barriers as republicans have blocked sales in most states to support GM, FORD and the larger car makers.


Detroit — Electric car maker Tesla Motors beat Wall Street’s expectations and set a record for deliveries of its Model S sedan in the third quarter, delighting investors even as its losses doubled from a year ago.

Tesla said Wednesday it delivered 7,785 cars during the July-September period. That was slightly below its guidance of 7,800 but up 41.5 percent from the same quarter a year ago.

The company’s net loss widened to $74.7 million for the quarter, or 60 cents per share, which was almost double its loss from a year ago. The company blamed increased research and development costs for both the Model X SUV, which is due to go on sale next year, as well as its new all-wheel-drive system.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Welfare Queens Drive Teslas ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:10PM

Hrundi V Bakshi Wrote:
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> They are still getting investor funds. Once the
> investors realize this is going nowhere, they will
> stop throwing money down this hole.


And they're living off of selling ZEV credits and their own sales rely heavily on buyer tax credits.

I don't know how Gerry and the rest of the Libtards here got on the Republican's hate Tesla thing. I guess it falls through some sort of twisted 'Big Oil' logic. The only problem that any 'Republicans' had with them was in giving them Federal money when they're a commercial stage company and more than capable of raising the same money on their own, not some R&D venture where that may be more appropriate.

The reality is that Tesla had no real need for taxpayer money. That was a payback gift to Musk. They could have raised the same cash with no problem but it would have been at a higher cost and with more scrutiny and strings from private investors like Musk himself. Go look up how much more he made on the money he personally loaned the company versus the government's return (hint: like 20X).

The reality also is that most owners are high-income individuals and far more likely to be Republicans (Drudge is by far the most frequently visited site from the onboard browser). So our libtard friends here are swooning over an evil corporation which lives off of tax breaks (far more so than "Big Oil"), and relies on the transfer of wealth from middle class tax payers in order to heavily subsidize selling expensive sports cars to 1%ers in order to ensure returns for other 1%er investors. lol

Libtards logic at its finest.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: repub-tardz lol ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:12PM


Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: "tardz" poster still butthurt. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:15PM

We see it.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: anti-prog-tardz ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:18PM

So much for a free market... LOL


conservi-tardz

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:18PM

I check Drudge daily and I hate Republicans. I check be entertained by how stupid Republicans are that day and what the internal mind fuck and propaganda is.

Republicans are fascinating specimens of a collective of willfully ignorant idiots.

Checking Drudge doesn't make Tesla owners conservative. It makes them smart sometimes.

Maybe they want to check on the idiots that attack their vehicle as they enjoy it. Maybe it makes them feel more special that they don't pump their gas and they have instant torque from electric motors that provides an experience most goobers can only dream of.

If I owned a Tesla I'd laugh at drudge all day too.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2014 01:20PM by Gerrymanderer2.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Ertyu ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:18PM

repub-tardz lol Wrote:
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> http://www.twcc.com/articles/2014/03/18/w/why-are-
> republican-governors-blocking-tesla-cars-from-cons
> umers

Because the GOP gets a shit load of money from banking and automotive PACs.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: The butthurt here. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:20PM

The feel good story of the day.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: thread recap ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:21PM

Republicans = Failures

Tesla = #winning

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Ahh, the smell of fresh dim butt ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:23PM

Smells like victory

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Good Vibrations ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:23PM

A mild refresher on Tesla's "success". Sorry Tesla fanboys ... it's cool technology, heavily reliant on public assistance (a.k.a. preferential tax status), and far from a commercial success.

If you do a little research, you will find that Tesla's success is due in large part to the preferential tax subsidies that their customers enjoy, AND Tesla's ability to resell vapor in the form of "zero emissions credits" that other manufacturers are required to buy in some states (i.e. California), meaning that Tesla is to a great degree, on public assistance.

While dealerships get a bad rap for their sales tactics and aggressive maintenance and service sales tactics, they have historically provided an important role as the indirect channel for manufacturers that want to focus on building and marketing cars, not selling or servicing them. It's called "distribution", and maybe the OP and the other Tesla fanboys can find a class at NVCC to learn more about this complex concept.

In the meantime, maybe they would also like to read some other opinions about Tesla's hero credentials, by reading the following editorials from some known publishers (Wall Street Journal, Forbes, US News, Car & Driver, etc.)

http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/aaron-robinson-tesla-is-the-real-government-motors-column

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324659404578499460139237952

http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmichaels/2013/05/27/if-tesla-would-stop-selling-cars-wed-all-save-some-money/

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2013/06/03/teslas-success-is-the-result-of-political-favoritism

So the next time that you fawn over your neighbor's new Tesla Model S, consider this: Are they really taking one for the global environmental team by dropping $80Large, or are they, like Tesla, playing this public assistance game and getting a high-end status toy that is likely their second or third vehicle?

Think about it.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:33PM

Beautiful car, the top of the line one costs around $120k, and gets 250+ miles on a single charge.

The Nissan Leaf gets 75-85 miles on a charge....

Blessed are the murderous.
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Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: ^ a liberal success ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:35PM

Republicans just fail, fail, fail.

If the leaf wasn't so ugly, I would buy one. The 80 mile range is fine for 90% of the driving I do.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: The butthurt here. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:36PM

Ahhh

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: another lib success story ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:38PM

2014_Tesla_Model_S_Porsche_S-E-Hybrid.jp

Cheaper and faster than the Porsche

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: moar butthurt ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:41PM

Feel it.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:42PM

Yes, electric cars have a lot of performance potential. Electric engines produce almost all of their torque at 0 RPM, and there is no transmission hogging energy.

Blessed are the murderous.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Welfare Queens Drive Teslas ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:42PM

^ a liberal success Wrote:
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> Republicans just fail, fail, fail.
>
> If the leaf wasn't so ugly, I would buy one. The
> 80 mile range is fine for 90% of the driving I do.


Yeah, those damn facts again. Just completely fucks up an otherwise cool story bro. lol

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Al Ameriki ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:45PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Yes, electric cars have a lot of performance
> potential. Electric engines produce almost all of
> their torque at 0 RPM, and there is no
> transmission hogging energy.

And you think the average Joe who just wants to get to work and back gives a rat's ass about this trivia?

The $120K version is a good looking car however. Any data on reliability? And where does one go for repairs/warranty work?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2014 01:47PM by Al Ameriki.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: smell the butt hurt... ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:46PM

Welfare Queens Drive Teslas Wrote:
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> ^ a liberal success Wrote:
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> > Republicans just fail, fail, fail.
> >
> > If the leaf wasn't so ugly, I would buy one.
> The
> > 80 mile range is fine for 90% of the driving I
> do.
>
>
> Yeah, those damn facts again. Just completely
> fucks up an otherwise cool story bro. lol


Poor goober, will never be able to afford a Tesla.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Welfare Queens Drive Teslas ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:47PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I check Drudge daily and I hate Republicans. I
> check be entertained by how stupid Republicans are
> that day and what the internal mind fuck and
> propaganda is.
>
> Republicans are fascinating specimens of a
> collective of willfully ignorant idiots.
>
> Checking Drudge doesn't make Tesla owners
> conservative. It makes them smart sometimes.
>
> Maybe they want to check on the idiots that attack
> their vehicle as they enjoy it. Maybe it makes
> them feel more special that they don't pump their
> gas and they have instant torque from electric
> motors that provides an experience most goobers
> can only dream of.
>
> If I owned a Tesla I'd laugh at drudge all day
> too.

As always, you're a moron. The mention of Drudge was an aside having little to do with any of the rest of the truth about Tesla being a prime case of a politically connected evil corporation which relies on transferring wealth from the masses to benefit wealthy 1%ers. All of which you ignore. lmao

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:49PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I check Drudge daily and I hate Republicans. I
> check be entertained by how stupid Republicans are
> that day and what the internal mind fuck and
> propaganda is.
>
> Republicans are fascinating specimens of a
> collective of willfully ignorant idiots.
>
> Checking Drudge doesn't make Tesla owners
> conservative. It makes them smart sometimes.
>
> Maybe they want to check on the idiots that attack
> their vehicle as they enjoy it. Maybe it makes
> them feel more special that they don't pump their
> gas and they have instant torque from electric
> motors that provides an experience most goobers
> can only dream of.
>
> If I owned a Tesla I'd laugh at drudge all day
> too.

You are so stupid you have no idea how stupid you are. First of all you LOVE Ron Paul, a conservative republican. Second of all, Tesla is a major corporation that uses tax loopholes to try and make money, just like the evil corporation you despise. These cars are for 1%er's, a group that lib politicians have convinced you to hate even though libs make up the majority of 1%ers. Gee, electricity doesn't come out of thin air, it comes from places like COAL and NATURAL GAS power plants. It comes from energy sources that libs have been fighting for tooth and nail.

You are either completely retarded and give Trig Palin a run for his money or you are a closet conservative.

Oh and we won! You lost! Elections have consequences. DEAL WITH IT!

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:51PM

All corporations aren't evil dumbass. Who told you that Liberals hate corporations? I don't need to get into a meaningless philisophical debate with a goober based on his indoctrination.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:53PM

Al Ameriki Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Yes, electric cars have a lot of performance
> > potential. Electric engines produce almost all
> of
> > their torque at 0 RPM, and there is no
> > transmission hogging energy.
>
> And you think the average Joe who just wants to
> get to work and back gives a rat's ass about this
> trivia?
>
> The $120K version is a good looking car however.
> Any data on reliability? And where does one go for
> repairs/warranty work?




Yes, when the average Joe is buying 300 HP V-6s and 450+ HP V8s for $30k to $40k, performance figures are relevant. This isn't the 80s and 90s when Chevy Caprices had 180 HP V8s and Mustangs came with a 105 HP four cylinder.


Consumer reports lists the Tesla as having average reliability, and you take the car back to the factory store for service.

Keep in mind the only maintanence work that needs to be done are rotating tires, brake service, and alignment. There are no oil changes, filter replacements, tune-ups, transmission service, etc.

Blessed are the murderous.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Bzzzzzzzzzzz ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:55PM

eesh Wrote:
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>
>
> Keep in mind the only maintanence work that needs
> to be done are rotating tires, brake service, and
> alignment. There are no oil changes, filter
> replacements, tune-ups, transmission service, etc.

Anything made by man can break.

What about electrical issues? And fires?

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 01:57PM

I'll take an electric wires over an internal combustion GASOLINE engine with a transmission anyday.

Its called fuses.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: cLMdc ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:02PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I'll take an electric wires over an internal
> combustion GASOLINE engine with a transmission
> anyday.
>
>

Until you get BBQ'ed sitting in the drivers seat.

Also, wasnt one of the big complaints about the Chevy Volt the expense of the batteries which are only good for 3-5 years. If I recall, to replace the batteries in that car was north of $5K.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Welfare Queens Drive Teslas ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:08PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> All corporations aren't evil dumbass. Who told you
> that Liberals hate corporations? I don't need to
> get into a meaningless philisophical debate with a
> goober based on his indoctrination.


That's because you can't.

So a company which relies heavily on tax money derived from middle class people to produce expensive toys for and to backup large investment returns for rich folks whose purchases also are heavily subsidized doesn't qualify as evil because the primary rich guy benefiting gives money to the Democratic party. Gotcha. LOL!

You were probably one of the same dummies clapping for Russell Simmons at Occupy when the guy makes most of his money by ripping off low-income black folk with his pre-paid debit cards, his primary investor being the Carlye Group.

You idiots really are entertaining at times.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: uhhh okay.. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:08PM

DCProf Wrote:
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> LOLOL...the "Green" car that changed the world,
> that only the 1% can afford. Nice going
> libs...only the rich can afford it.


It cost the same as a 550i or E550, two cars you see all the time around Fairfax. Take in to account the gas savings, lower cost to maintain, and the Tesla is actually less than those popular two.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: core and periphery ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:10PM

Welfare Queens Drive Teslas Wrote:
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The reality is that Tesla had no real need for taxpayer money. That was a payback gift to Musk. They could have raised the same cash with no problem but it would have been at a higher cost and with more scrutiny and strings from private investors like Musk himself. Go look up how much more he made on the money he personally loaned the company versus the government's return (hint: like 20X).

This.

Tesla was a corrupt political deal insulated by a green wrapper.

Some business types will defend it because they, too, want to dip their snouts in the govt trough.

Libs will defend it to the death, however, because they are knee-jerk anti-Republican and/or devotees of green ideology aka the cult of global warming. A smaller number because of glassy-eyed Me Drive Pretty Car Someday fantasies mixed willy-nilly with quasi-millenialist dreams of Demmish hegemony populated by tight-bottomed transhumanist unicorns.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: cool ass car ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:22PM

The video from Yucky24s "Technology level White" series was pretty cool

The new AWD Tesla is the fastest sedan in the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7quu551ehc0

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: , ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:22PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Yes, electric cars have a lot of performance
> potential. Electric engines produce almost all of
> their torque at 0 RPM, and there is no
> transmission hogging energy.

I still feel like I'd miss the rumble of a V8 engine.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 02:50PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I'll take an electric wires over an internal
> combustion GASOLINE engine with a transmission
> anyday.
>
> Its called fuses.


Mark, can you buy a car with your EBT card now?

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: NJmvN ()
Date: November 06, 2014 03:16PM

core and periphery Wrote:
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> Welfare Queens Drive Teslas Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> The reality is that Tesla had no real need for
> taxpayer money. That was a payback gift to Musk.
> They could have raised the same cash with no
> problem but it would have been at a higher cost
> and with more scrutiny and strings from private
> investors like Musk himself. Go look up how much
> more he made on the money he personally loaned the
> company versus the government's return (hint: like
> 20X).
>
> This.
>
> Tesla was a corrupt political deal insulated by a
> green wrapper.
>
> Some business types will defend it because they,
> too, want to dip their snouts in the govt trough.
>
> Libs will defend it to the death, however, because
> they are knee-jerk anti-Republican and/or devotees
> of green ideology aka the cult of global warming.
> A smaller number because of glassy-eyed Me Drive
> Pretty Car Someday fantasies mixed willy-nilly
> with quasi-millenialist dreams of Demmish hegemony
> populated by tight-bottomed transhumanist
> unicorns.


Not to mention the irony of the ultimate fuel source for Tesla being coal and natural gas derived primarily from evil fracking by... wait for it... evil "Big Oil." lmao

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 03:22PM

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> Rockhound Wrote:
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> -----
> > Back to reality:
> >
> > Electricity is not free. It doesn't just
> magically
> > appear when you flip the switch, but for you it
> > does.
> >
> > This ugly ass car costs 2-3 times more than a
> > hybrid. But think about all that money you'll
> save
> > in gas!
> >
> > Yeah, real "redefining".
>
> It's okay, Republicans are in control. We will
> fire up all those coal plants, start fracking like
> crazy, put people back to work and provide power
> for all the hybrid/electric liberal car owners
> that slam corporations (that don't create jobs
> according to Hillary) and at the same time give
> them tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to
> feel good.
>
> lib, lib, lib, lib, lib.
> Say it 5 times real fast, funny as shit.

Not even that Republican Texas is outlawing fracking. Seems like Republicans eventually learn things after its effects takes hold.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: November 06, 2014 03:25PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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>
> Not even that Republican Texas is outlawing
> fracking. Seems like Republicans eventually learn
> things after its effects takes hold.


God damn you're dumb!

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: obligatory1 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 03:28PM

I know a thing or two about elon musk myself
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Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: xxuNd ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:45PM


oil is running out in 2100 (except for rich polititians of course)

get your electric car now before obama inflation makes electric cards totally un-affordable !!


Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: pyCnp ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:47PM

there's a miniing shortage in 2110, limiting power plants ability to recharge electric cars they will be illegal

they will repo and crush all electric cars. no one knows who's getting the metal for what price, all is very quiet where it is being funneled to

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Gerry is a libtard prius fag ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:52PM

Gerry is such an insufferable flaming doucher.
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Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: McAuliffe by 12, Warner by 18 ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:54PM

Yes, everyone listen to Gerry. He's a fucking genius as is always right. Lolz

 
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Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Slapdown ()
Date: November 06, 2014 07:57PM

supercharger.. Wrote:
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> Henro Wrote:
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> > I have seen the hook-ups in garages and there
> is
> > no meter, just plug it in and the spots are
> > reserved for them.
>
>
> Tesla charging stations are free for all Tesla
> owners, forever.

Yup. You're right. Use of the supercharging stations is indeed free. However...

In order for your Tesla Model-S to be used with a supercharging station, it requires a $2,000 software upgrade. If you do not opt for the upgrade, you have to rely solely on non-supercharger station electricity which will take several hours to fully recharge the Tesla Model-S's batteries to capacity.

This is not an issue if you use the car for commuting or short trips. It'll charge overnight. You get home before the battery runs out and plug it in. But, if you're on a long distance trip where you'd require several charging cycles to get there and back again...well, you'd better get ready to pay for lots of hotel rooms and other bullshit to occupy your time while you're waiting for a recharge.

Granted, most people who can afford a Model-S are going to opt for the supercharger station software upgrade. I looked into the car very seriously but in order to equip it to meet my needs (which is NOT even fully optioned), the price went from $70,000 to $105,000. I could by 2 European luxury sedans at that price...

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: fhjffjkjvf ()
Date: November 06, 2014 08:16PM

With a highway range of about 200 miles per charge they are not designed for travel. That's pathetic. A VW TDI gets 50 mpg and can easily go 600 miles on a tank at a fraction of the price. People don't buy Teslas for mileage or environmental reasons. They buy them because they are wealthy and can throw money away.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: You Faggot ()
Date: November 06, 2014 08:44PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> The front profile of the Tesla coupe is perfect for tickling
> my prostate when it is up my ass.


Figured as much.

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: zoom zoom cya //M, ///AMG ()
Date: November 06, 2014 08:47PM

fhjffjkjvf Wrote:
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> With a highway range of about 200 miles per charge
> they are not designed for travel. That's pathetic.
> A VW TDI gets 50 mpg and can easily go 600 miles
> on a tank at a fraction of the price. People don't
> buy Teslas for mileage or environmental reasons.
> They buy them because they are wealthy and can
> throw money away.


And its the fastest sedan EVAR!

Re: Tesla - A success story redefining our world
Posted by: Jeff Keith ()
Date: November 07, 2014 12:55AM

After our 2015 summer tour I'll definitely buy this great car.

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