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right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 18, 2012 11:42AM

i'm a lefty who happens to be anti-israel (not anti-jew, just anti-israel). most of you people on this board lean to the right -- just wondering on your opinion on the current round of israel/gaza conflict. and specifically, are you guys fed up yet with american support of israel?

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Fruppie ()
Date: November 18, 2012 11:46AM

That's stupid.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: left turn clyde ()
Date: November 18, 2012 11:56AM

Fruppie Wrote:
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> That's stupid.


I agree. A right wingers opinion on anything means absolutely nothing.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 18, 2012 12:00PM

I think Hamas should stop shooting rockets at civilians if they're serious about making a better life for the Palestinians. Terrorists get no sympathy, and trying to kill civilians at random is terrorist activity.

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Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Jim Jones ()
Date: November 18, 2012 12:09PM

I think israel is going to fuck them up..A good ol' fashion ass kicking. It's amazing how we humans hate so much. beside that, my opinion is Israel has had enough, they will pummel the Palestinians in a bad way, we should know, we sold them the weapons.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: November 18, 2012 12:44PM

I'm no right-winger, but I'm hoping Israel rolls the ground troops into Gaza and gets rid of these terrorists for good.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 18, 2012 01:39PM

I really have to wonder about Westerners that support Hamas....or any Palestine state over Israel. Having sympathy for Hamas pretty much makes you anti-Semitic.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 18, 2012 02:44PM

I'm Jewish, so I'm kind of biased, naturally. Hamas has been throwing rockets into Israel for the last four (nearly five) years. It can't continue to expect nothing to happen.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 18, 2012 02:45PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I think Hamas should stop shooting rockets at
> civilians if they're serious about making a better
> life for the Palestinians. Terrorists get no
> sympathy, and trying to kill civilians at random
> is terrorist activity.

Hamas doesn't want anything for the Palestinians, Hamas wants things for Hamas. It should be completely disintermediated from the peace talks. The PA is the real government.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Fruppie ()
Date: November 18, 2012 02:47PM

left turn clyde Wrote:
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> Fruppie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's stupid.
>
>
> I agree. A right wingers opinion on anything means
> absolutely nothing.

That's stupid.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: We did this in 2008 already ()
Date: November 18, 2012 03:12PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I think Hamas should stop shooting rockets at
> civilians if they're serious about making a better
> life for the Palestinians. Terrorists get no
> sympathy, and trying to kill civilians at random
> is terrorist activity.


Thats genius. So lets expand to an analogy.

A bank is robbed by armed men. They force everyone in the bank to do as they say, stand in front of them at all times etc. The robbers start firing on the cops and people outside. So the best solution is to shoot up the bank?

They aren't going to fix anything doing this except give more steel to the militant factions by providing them with ammo to recruit. "Look israel's aggression and killing of civilians".

de-Legitimization Hamas by addressing the issues that the Palestinian people, not the militants, care about. Displacement of people who have lived in their homes for centuries due to colonization. Creating walls that affect commerce and mobility of Palestinians. The disenfranchisement of the Palestinian voters. These are real issues that need to be addressed... it doesnt mean someone should turn to militantism to address it, but it does mean that there are real gripes.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Make hummus out of hamas ()
Date: November 18, 2012 03:15PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think Hamas should stop shooting rockets at
> > civilians if they're serious about making a
> better
> > life for the Palestinians. Terrorists get no
> > sympathy, and trying to kill civilians at
> random
> > is terrorist activity.
>
> Hamas doesn't want anything for the Palestinians,
> Hamas wants things for Hamas. It should be
> completely disintermediated from the peace talks.
> The PA is the real government.


Fatah, or the Palestinian Authority, is willing to work with Israel on some level, at least.

Hamas is just a group of thugs who occupy Gaza. It's a shame the residents of Gaza are stuck in the middle of it all. They are the ones who are going to suffer, not the fat cats who fund Hamas.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Fatah was depowered ()
Date: November 18, 2012 03:27PM

Make hummus out of hamas Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MrMephisto Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I think Hamas should stop shooting rockets at
> > > civilians if they're serious about making a
> > better
> > > life for the Palestinians. Terrorists get no
> > > sympathy, and trying to kill civilians at
> > random
> > > is terrorist activity.
> >
> > Hamas doesn't want anything for the
> Palestinians,
> > Hamas wants things for Hamas. It should be
> > completely disintermediated from the peace
> talks.
> > The PA is the real government.
>
>
> Fatah, or the Palestinian Authority, is willing to
> work with Israel on some level, at least.
>
> Hamas is just a group of thugs who occupy Gaza.
> It's a shame the residents of Gaza are stuck in
> the middle of it all. They are the ones who are
> going to suffer, not the fat cats who fund Hamas.

Yea but while Fatah was in power israel continued to expand illegal settlements, cause significant collatoral damage fighting extremists, etc.

Israel's lack of compromise with Fatah when they were in power is how hamas came to power. Hamas kept feeding and paying people in palestine. They were the ones with hospitals, clinics, food, shelter, funding schools and helping the poor while Fatah was viewed as impotent and powerless in negotiation with Israel.

This is what happens when you pick an extreme and dont compromise, you get the worst case scenario. To fix that Israel has to stop being on the extreme opposite end and return to direct discussion and concessions to the PEOPLE, not hamas, but the PEOPLE. Want to start winning people over? Start building hospitals, schools, and promoting commerce between the two peoples.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yasser ()
Date: November 18, 2012 04:56PM

The PNA under Arafat had their chance. They could have had almost all the land and some of a partioned Jerusalem when Clinton did his Camp David summit in 2000. The stupid arabs said no after Ehud Barak gave in to just about everthing but the right to return (a death sentence to the Jewish state). Screw the Palestinians. Hamas is the ELECTED goverment in Gaza. The folks like 'em. Now, eat Israeli lead stupid Hamas-loving Palestinians. Good riddance.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 18, 2012 05:09PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Hamas doesn't want anything for the Palestinians,
> Hamas wants things for Hamas. It should be
> completely disintermediated from the peace talks.
> The PA is the real government.

Then the Palestinians need to stop helping and harboring Hamas.

We did this in 2008 already Wrote:
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> Thats genius. So lets expand to a dumb analogy.

Terrorism and bank robbery are not even remotely similar.

Hamas kills innocent civilians and uses women and children as human shields like cowards. If they care about the Palestinian people, they'll stop putting them in this position by poking the bear. If the Palestinians really want peace, they'll stop supporting Hamas.

I don't necessarily agree with the policy of taking someone's land and giving it to someone else, but that was years ago, and what's done is done. Israel exists and blowing yourself up in a bus station full of civilians is not going to change anything.

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Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 18, 2012 05:22PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hamas doesn't want anything for the
> Palestinians,
> > Hamas wants things for Hamas. It should be
> > completely disintermediated from the peace
> talks.
> > The PA is the real government.
>
> Then the Palestinians need to stop helping and
> harboring Hamas.

Of course they do, but Hamas does a handful of positive things for the Palestinians, which then causes them (the Palestinians) to support Hamas.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 18, 2012 05:25PM

Fatah was depowered Wrote:
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> Yea but while Fatah was in power israel continued
> to expand illegal settlements, cause significant
> collatoral damage fighting extremists, etc.

A lot of that was a result of Arafat, unfortunately. And, Sharon's government was not exactly firm on anything. If anything, it helped widen the schism.



> Israel's lack of compromise with Fatah when they
> were in power is how hamas came to power. Hamas
> kept feeding and paying people in palestine. They
> were the ones with hospitals, clinics, food,
> shelter, funding schools and helping the poor
> while Fatah was viewed as impotent and powerless
> in negotiation with Israel.

Again, this is why Hamas stays in power. Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked, it's possible that there will be a paradigm shift... unfortunately, the issue will likely lead to a civil war in Gaza and the West Bank. Naturally, this will somehow be Israel's fault.


> This is what happens when you pick an extreme and
> dont compromise, you get the worst case scenario.
> To fix that Israel has to stop being on the
> extreme opposite end and return to direct
> discussion and concessions to the PEOPLE, not
> hamas, but the PEOPLE. Want to start winning
> people over? Start building hospitals, schools,
> and promoting commerce between the two peoples.


Yes, this is the answer. And, once the people are won over, then peace will ensue. Unfortunately, as long as Hamas has power, war will continue.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: I'm with Stupid ----> ()
Date: November 18, 2012 05:48PM

Israel's beef isn't with the Palestinian people. It is with their terrorist government - Hamas. Hamas has sent over 1,200 rockets into Israel this year. Israel finally had enough and had decided to kick Hamas in their balls.

This very left-leaning liberal Democrat stands 100% with Israel.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 18, 2012 06:59PM

I'm with Stupid ----> Wrote:
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> Israel's beef isn't with the Palestinian people.
> It is with their terrorist government - Hamas.
> Hamas has sent over 1,200 rockets into Israel this
> year. Israel finally had enough and had decided
> to kick Hamas in their balls.
>
> This very left-leaning liberal Democrat stands
> 100% with Israel.

And, that's this year alone. Since 2001, the number is over 12,000.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Thats not the point ()
Date: November 18, 2012 07:08PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> I'm with Stupid ----> Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Israel's beef isn't with the Palestinian people.
>
> > It is with their terrorist government - Hamas.
> > Hamas has sent over 1,200 rockets into Israel
> this
> > year. Israel finally had enough and had
> decided
> > to kick Hamas in their balls.
> >
> > This very left-leaning liberal Democrat stands
> > 100% with Israel.
>
> And, that's this year alone. Since 2001, the
> number is over 12,000.

No one is defending the aggressors in Hamas and the extremist militants. People are questioning HOW to disarm them. Land war and missile attacks that kill women, children, and soldiers alike are NOT going to be the answer.

And please dont come back and say yes but hamas is the ones putting missiles in civilian areas. Yes we know. Regardless that doesn't lessen the problem of killing women and children. That is what happens when a pyschotic rabid animal is put in a corner, it resorts to complete bullshit cowardly acts.

I think the world of the civilized should aim to be better, somehow they have to be better.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Lester ()
Date: November 18, 2012 07:46PM

At the end of this month, the Palestinians were introducing a UN resolution seeking a form of statehood.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-leopold/palestinians-rock-hard-place_b_2148314.html

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Enough of Israel ()
Date: November 18, 2012 09:59PM

A little tired of the US supporting Israel blindly. I suspect many Americans feel the same way. Will be pissed if they pull us into another fucking war!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#Fatalities_1948.E2.80.93present

Fatalities since '87

Palestine - 7987
Israel - 1503

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yucky24. ()
Date: November 19, 2012 01:26AM

Because White Jews are intelligent and civilized and a-rab muslimes are dumb savages.


Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Bobby Collingsworth ()
Date: November 19, 2012 10:34AM

Enough of Israel Wrote:
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> Fatalities since '87
>
> Palestine - 7987
> Israel - 1503

So that is 7987 less savages. Go Israel!

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: just do it ()
Date: November 19, 2012 10:39AM

i say nuke the savage!!!! fuck those sand niggas up! we will send you more bombs and ammo..go israel!

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: caleen ()
Date: November 19, 2012 12:22PM

I never could understand why Israel gave the Gaza strip back anywy. Once you give cockroaces some crumbs, that come back for more.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 19, 2012 12:40PM

caleen Wrote:
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> I never could understand why Israel gave the Gaza
> strip back anywy. Once you give cockroaces some
> crumbs, that come back for more.


+1


These Palestinians won't be happy until Israel is wiped off the map.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 19, 2012 03:03PM

Thats not the point Wrote:
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> No one is defending the aggressors in Hamas and
> the extremist militants. People are questioning
> HOW to disarm them. Land war and missile attacks
> that kill women, children, and soldiers alike are
> NOT going to be the answer.

Actually, you'd be surprised. I got into an argument with an idiot today who believes Hamas and its militants are in the right. I agree that violence is not the answer to this... unfortunately neither side really is going to give up anything for it.

> And please dont come back and say yes but hamas is
> the ones putting missiles in civilian areas. Yes
> we know. Regardless that doesn't lessen the
> problem of killing women and children. That is
> what happens when a pyschotic rabid animal is put
> in a corner, it resorts to complete bullshit
> cowardly acts.

Hamas is responsible for their deaths; the Israelis are not. Killing women and children is terrible, but these things happen in a war. I'm not trying to justify it, I'm just stating a fact. World War II had more civillian casualties than any other war in the history of humanity. (it was also the bloodiest war in the history of humanity)

> I think the world of the civilized should aim to
> be better, somehow they have to be better.

Yes, the civilized world should be better. Sadly, the civilized world keeps getting attacked by the uncivilized world. After awhile, you're forced to respond.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 19, 2012 03:04PM

eesh Wrote:
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> caleen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I never could understand why Israel gave the
> Gaza
> > strip back anywy. Once you give cockroaces some
> > crumbs, that come back for more.
>
>
> +1
>
>
> These Palestinians won't be happy until Israel is
> wiped off the map.


This is absolutely true. It's the only thing that unites them.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 19, 2012 03:06PM

Enough of Israel Wrote:
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> A little tired of the US supporting Israel
> blindly. I suspect many Americans feel the same
> way. Will be pissed if they pull us into another
> fucking war!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Pales
> tinian_conflict#Fatalities_1948.E2.80.93present
>
> Fatalities since '87
>
> Palestine - 7987
> Israel - 1503

60% support Israel. 40% are indifferent or do not. Honestly, the fatalities do not tell the whole story. Not to be cruel about it, but the Palestinians have had the opportunity to make peace more than once. They've refused, because of a a variety of poor reasons.

Palestinian deaths are (by and large) on Palestinian hands. When you put a rocket launcher in a hospital, or an appartment... and that rocket launcher gets blown up, the people who die are dead because of your actions.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Pro-palestinian, sorta ()
Date: November 19, 2012 03:16PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> 60% support Israel. 40% are indifferent or do not.
> Honestly, the fatalities do not tell the whole
> story. Not to be cruel about it, but the
> Palestinians have had the opportunity to make
> peace more than once. They've refused, because of
> a a variety of poor reasons.
>
> Palestinian deaths are (by and large) on
> Palestinian hands. When you put a rocket launcher
> in a hospital, or an appartment... and that rocket
> launcher gets blown up, the people who die are
> dead because of your actions.


I wouldn't go as far as blaming one side over the other. It's a shameful situation all the way around.

I'm not entirely "anti israel" but I do believe they have been intransigent in dealing with the palestinians who truly have a valid claim on the land Israel occupies as a result of the Balfour declaration.

But I'm not losing any sleep over civilian deaths in Gaza. I am also not losing any sleep over civilian deaths in Tel Aviv, either. Things are just coming to a head, and Israel has the bigger and badder weapons.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Lefty ()
Date: November 19, 2012 03:27PM

We should stay the fuck out. If Isreali needs a couple of drones then fine.

That's all the middle east does is fight wars. It's part of the culture. It's been going on for thousands of years.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: November 19, 2012 04:21PM

@OP - I used to be all about Israel but now I see how dickish they are too

That video where they blew up that Hamas dude last week? When you watch it, just before the car blows up, it passes a mini-van.

Imagine being the mother fucker in that mini van, right? LoLz

But as funny as that is, bottom line is that Israel's doing the same bullshit the Palestinians are - cause whoever the fuck was in that mini-van didnt have shit to do with shit was just on the same street when all of a sudden the car that just passed him blew the FUCK UP!

Which is the same shit to me as if yr at yr house and a missle all of a sudden blows up on it.

So fuck em all until they learn to live with one another............... If one guy is a terrorist asshole, yeah kill him - but FUCK if you're gonna kill everyone on his block over it then yr just kinda the same sorta terrorist asshole in the long run

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 20, 2012 03:47PM

Pro-palestinian, sorta Wrote:
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> I'm not entirely "anti israel" but I do believe
> they have been intransigent in dealing with the
> palestinians who truly have a valid claim on the
> land Israel occupies as a result of the Balfour
> declaration.

The name "Palestinians" is more or less an invented one. There was no such thing until the Balfour Declaration.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yucky24. ()
Date: November 20, 2012 11:52PM


Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yucky24. ()
Date: November 21, 2012 12:00AM

The real mystery is why do so many libtards support these a-rab muslime barbarians?

Libtards supposedly hate violence - "Palestinians" are violent as fuck.

Libtards supposedly support gays - "Palestinians" hate gays.

Libtards are supposedly opposed to racism - "Palestinians" are racist as fuck.

Libtards supposedly hate religion - "Palestinians" are religious fanatics.

Libtards supposedly support female right - "Palestinians" oppress females.

Libtards supposedly oppose oppression and injustice - "Palestinians" aren't exactly champions of human rights, pluralism and freedom.

Etc.

My best guess is that the libtard is pathologically self-loathing who hates "Westerners" (Whites) and have been conditioned since the so-called "civil rights movements" to support dumb and savage brown people whenever they're in a conflict with intelligent and civilized light skinned people.

That's the only possible explanation in my mind.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yucky24. ()
Date: November 21, 2012 12:04AM

Watch these videos while you can. They're being taken off youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvFTNBFKLec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbnK1HnYALw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvZyYxAB4jk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHTQnSO7B-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La3AJ5SX5-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsQKg-JfYA

If none of the links work, just type "hamas drags body through street" into a video search engine.

If you think it's possible to make peace with these subhuman mongoloids, you're suicidally naive.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:14PM

Yucky24. Wrote:
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> The real mystery is why do so many libtards
> support these a-rab muslime barbarians?
>
> Libtards supposedly hate violence - "Palestinians"
> are violent as fuck.
>
> Libtards supposedly support gays - "Palestinians"
> hate gays.
>
> Libtards are supposedly opposed to racism -
> "Palestinians" are racist as fuck.
>
> Libtards supposedly hate religion - "Palestinians"
> are religious fanatics.
>
> Libtards supposedly support female right -
> "Palestinians" oppress females.
>
> Libtards supposedly oppose oppression and
> injustice - "Palestinians" aren't exactly
> champions of human rights, pluralism and freedom.
>
> Etc.
>
> My best guess is that the libtard is
> pathologically self-loathing who hates
> "Westerners" (Whites) and have been conditioned
> since the so-called "civil rights movements" to
> support dumb and savage brown people whenever
> they're in a conflict with intelligent and
> civilized light skinned people.
>
> That's the only possible explanation in my mind.

There's also another reason... liberals are simply brainwashed...

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yucky24. ()
Date: November 25, 2012 04:42PM


Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: yep sure why not ()
Date: November 25, 2012 05:24PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Yucky24. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The real mystery is why do so many libtards
> > support these a-rab muslime barbarians?
> >
> > Libtards supposedly hate violence -
> "Palestinians"
> > are violent as fuck.
> >
> > Libtards supposedly support gays -
> "Palestinians"
> > hate gays.
> >
> > Libtards are supposedly opposed to racism -
> > "Palestinians" are racist as fuck.
> >
> > Libtards supposedly hate religion -
> "Palestinians"
> > are religious fanatics.
> >
> > Libtards supposedly support female right -
> > "Palestinians" oppress females.
> >
> > Libtards supposedly oppose oppression and
> > injustice - "Palestinians" aren't exactly
> > champions of human rights, pluralism and
> freedom.
> >
> > Etc.
> >
> > My best guess is that the libtard is
> > pathologically self-loathing who hates
> > "Westerners" (Whites) and have been conditioned
> > since the so-called "civil rights movements" to
> > support dumb and savage brown people whenever
> > they're in a conflict with intelligent and
> > civilized light skinned people.
> >
> > That's the only possible explanation in my
> mind.
>
> There's also another reason... liberals are simply
> brainwashed...

Yes out of the two parties, November proved that liberals were the ones that were brainwashed. It wasn't like the republicans were living in an alternate universe of yes men pollsters and bastion districts. No no, you are right those damn liberals are the ones that continue to disregard science. Its those damn liberals who have cult like addictions to extreme religious groups devoid of the reality that they follow one set of rules in their holy requirements but disregard a whole other set of equally important rules.

Brainwashed, the perfect word to describe liberals. Yep.

Keep living your own brainwashed world with people like Yucky who have been indoctrinated by brainwashing to believe that skin color has any bearing on how well a person does, or how smart they are, or how good of a person they are.

Fucking tool

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 25, 2012 07:37PM

yep sure why not Wrote:
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> Yes out of the two parties, November proved that
> liberals were the ones that
> were brainwashed. It wasn't like the republicans
> were living in an alternate universe of yes men
> pollsters and bastion districts. No no, you are
> right those damn liberals are the ones that
> continue to disregard science. Its those damn
> liberals who have cult like addictions to extreme
> religious groups devoid of the reality that they
> follow one set of rules in their holy requirements
> but disregard a whole other set of equally
> important rules.
>
> Brainwashed, the perfect word to describe
> liberals. Yep.
>
> Keep living your own brainwashed world with people
> like Yucky who have been indoctrinated by
> brainwashing to believe that skin color has any
> bearing on how well a person does, or how smart
> they are, or how good of a person they are.
>
> Fucking tool

I don't agree with Yucky; I think he/she's wrong on a lot. There's significant evidence for skin color having a bearing on IQ. As for the rest of that, that's untrue.

Let me guess, you think Che Guevara was a hero?

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: fuck you too YC ()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:18PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> yep sure why not Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes out of the two parties, November proved
> that
> > liberals were the ones that
> > were brainwashed. It wasn't like the
> republicans
> > were living in an alternate universe of yes men
> > pollsters and bastion districts. No no, you are
> > right those damn liberals are the ones that
> > continue to disregard science. Its those damn
> > liberals who have cult like addictions to
> extreme
> > religious groups devoid of the reality that
> they
> > follow one set of rules in their holy
> requirements
> > but disregard a whole other set of equally
> > important rules.
> >
> > Brainwashed, the perfect word to describe
> > liberals. Yep.
> >
> > Keep living your own brainwashed world with
> people
> > like Yucky who have been indoctrinated by
> > brainwashing to believe that skin color has any
> > bearing on how well a person does, or how smart
> > they are, or how good of a person they are.
> >
> > Fucking tool
>
> I don't agree with Yucky; I think he/she's wrong
> on a lot. There's significant evidence for skin
> color having a bearing on IQ. As for the rest of
> that, that's untrue.
>
> Let me guess, you think Che Guevara was a hero?


Whats fuckin wrong with you people that you have to devolve everyone into extremes just because they oppose your thoughts? No I dont think Che Guevara was a hero, I think he was a corrupt asshole no better than the people he scapegoated working class people to hate.

Scapegoating is funny like that.

PS, if you think I am some communist because I am a democrat then you are a fucking moron. There isnt any god damn similarity you tool. Someone can be progressive without wanting to end capitalism. What I do want to end is chronyism of the government and of corporations. If you havent noticed, 1984 is becoming more and more true every year, but its not because of the government its because of mega corporations like Exxon and Walmart who are destroying competition, purchasing our politicians, and raping the assets and people of America.

Fuck off

And what you dont understand is that there isnt just the factor of skin color in why continents around the world are fucked up you stupid cunt.

35 years ago people called Asians gooks, slope heads, and thought they were stupid goldfish tending kimchi eaters. Now all of a sudden the hard right views them as the "american legacy" that they are equal to the white man because their IQ is so high. Could it be because the western powers stopped their colonialism of the far east fuck face?

huh could that be the fucking explaination ever? No its always just skin color color color color color

The difference is people were fucking with the citizens of south america, central america, africa, and the middle east up until the 90s. Hell in many cases they are still be raped by corporations in the case of commodity rich South America and Africa.

You are just a stupid little cunt whose brain cant comprehend that life is a lot more complicated than pigment. I hope you are shot through your skull by a stray bullet from the clan you chode cunt whore herpes covered dicklicker

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 26, 2012 06:19PM

fuck you too YC Wrote:
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> Whats fuckin wrong with you people that you have
> to devolve everyone into extremes just because
> they oppose your thoughts? No I dont think Che
> Guevara was a hero, I think he was a corrupt
> asshole no better than the people he scapegoated
> working class people to hate.

You're revealing your ignorance, and hypocritically putting me as a right-wing nutjob. In fact, I'm anything but.


> Scapegoating is funny like that.

> PS, if you think I am some communist because I am
> a democrat then you are a fucking moron. There
> isnt any god damn similarity you tool. Someone can
> be progressive without wanting to end capitalism.
> What I do want to end is chronyism of the
> government and of corporations. If you havent
> noticed, 1984 is becoming more and more true every
> year, but its not because of the government its
> because of mega corporations like Exxon and
> Walmart who are destroying competition, purchasing
> our politicians, and raping the assets and people
> of America.

Your syntax is atrocious. Exxon-Mobil and Walmart are not forces for good in the world. You're portraying them as some sort of evil conglomerate. Neither are.

> Fuck off
>
> And what you dont understand is that there isnt
> just the factor of skin color in why continents
> around the world are fucked up you stupid cunt.

I completely do, actually. I seem to understand this better than you do.

> 35 years ago people called Asians gooks, slope
> heads, and thought they were stupid goldfish
> tending kimchi eaters. Now all of a sudden the
> hard right views them as the "american legacy"
> that they are equal to the white man because their
> IQ is so high. Could it be because the western
> powers stopped their colonialism of the far east
> fuck face?

Actually, the West's colonization of Asia ended in 1954. You're revealing ignorance of quite a few things. Colonialism was an improvement in many cases.

> huh could that be the fucking
> explaination ever? No its always just skin color
> color color color color


Not at all. Nice spelling, again. There are studies.

> The difference is people were fucking with the
> citizens of south america, central america,
> africa, and the middle east up until the 90s. Hell
> in many cases they are still be raped by
> corporations in the case of commodity rich South
> America and Africa.

? None of that makes any sense, and it isn't based in fact.

> You are just a stupid little cunt whose brain cant
> comprehend that life is a lot more complicated
> than pigment. I hope you are shot through your
> skull by a stray bullet from the clan you chode
> cunt whore herpes covered dicklicker

Yeah, life is more complicated than pigment. Good for you that you could understand that. Now get back behind the counter and practice "Can I take your order?" Maybe one day you'll learn enough to ascend from your morass of ignorance.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Fuck you ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:32PM

I have a masters in Structural engineering from Stanford and a PE you douche. Bringing up grammar and syntax on a trolls nest like this is the weakest form of argument. Way to go, you must be the same person who started the apostrophe thread. Well done you mastered the english language on a fucking internet forum. You are SO COOL man.

Now try to fucking design a 20 story building faggot

PS, I didnt realize Vietnam stopped being colonized in 1954. Man they really sold the lie. I blame the french.

You are the problem with this country, someone who thinks they know something when they don't know shit and loves to pretend they are intellectual via online grammar.

Well congrats, that and 5 bucks will buy you a foot long sub at Subway. Try not to be such a dick at the person behind that counter, they are likely a mental superior to you as well.

Douche

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Fuck you ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:34PM

I think what you meant to say was the French stopped the colonization of Vietnam. But I wonder what all those Soviet troops and US troops were doing over there. Just playing a quick game of Pau Gao over some Banh Mi I guess

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:55PM

Fuck you Wrote:
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> I have a masters in Structural engineering from
> Stanford and a PE you douche. Bringing up grammar
> and syntax on a trolls nest like this is the
> weakest form of argument. Way to go, you must be
> the same person who started the apostrophe thread.
> Well done you mastered the english language on a
> fucking internet forum. You are SO COOL man.
>
> Now try to fucking design a 20 story building
> faggot
>
> PS, I didnt realize Vietnam stopped being
> colonized in 1954. Man they really sold the lie. I
> blame the french.
>
> You are the problem with this country, someone who
> thinks they know something when they don't know
> shit and loves to pretend they are intellectual
> via online grammar.

I know a hell of a lot more than you do. Ignorance and stupidity are two different things. You're ignorant, not stupid. You have a good education, good for you. The French colonization ended in 1954, after Dien Bien Phu.

If you need to keep insulting me, you're continuing to indicate how weak your arguments actually are.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: LiberalLoyalties ()
Date: November 27, 2012 12:26AM

Yucky24. Wrote:
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> My best guess is that the libtard is
> pathologically self-loathing


They despise themselves and they despise America.

In any "conflict" involving the United States, liberals line up with the enemy.

After 9/11, liberals were defending the terrorists and blaming the United States. Suddenly they were lovin' the Muslims, despite the lack of tolerance they display towards Jews and Christians.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Standing erect and at attention ()
Date: November 27, 2012 12:32AM

LiberalLoyalties Wrote:
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> Yucky24. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > My best guess is that the libtard is
> > pathologically self-loathing
>
>
> They despise themselves and they despise America.
>
> In any "conflict" involving the United States,
> liberals line up with the enemy.
>
> After 9/11, liberals were defending the terrorists
> and blaming the United States. Suddenly they were
> lovin' the Muslims, despite the lack of tolerance
> they display towards Jews and Christians.


After 9/11, retarded right wingers were standing with their erections pointing at the flag. Very patriotic group.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Some of the best arguments ()
Date: November 27, 2012 12:38AM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Fuck you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have a masters in Structural engineering from
> > Stanford and a PE you douche. Bringing up
> grammar
> > and syntax on a trolls nest like this is the
> > weakest form of argument. Way to go, you must
> be
> > the same person who started the apostrophe
> thread.
> > Well done you mastered the english language on
> a
> > fucking internet forum. You are SO COOL man.
> >
> > Now try to fucking design a 20 story building
> > faggot
> >
> > PS, I didnt realize Vietnam stopped being
> > colonized in 1954. Man they really sold the lie.
> I
> > blame the french.
> >
> > You are the problem with this country, someone
> who
> > thinks they know something when they don't know
> > shit and loves to pretend they are intellectual
> > via online grammar.
>
> I know a hell of a lot more than you do. Ignorance
> and stupidity are two different things. You're
> ignorant, not stupid. You have a good education,
> good for you. The French colonization ended in
> 1954, after Dien Bien Phu.
>
> If you need to keep insulting me, you're
> continuing to indicate how weak your arguments
> actually are.


One of the best arguments is "You're wrong, because fuck you."

Philosophy 101.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Gaydar says what ()
Date: November 27, 2012 06:31AM

Standing erect and at attention Wrote:
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>
>
> After 9/11, retarded right wingers were standing
> with their erections pointing at the flag. Very
> patriotic group.


Your faggotary is legendary.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Yo Daddio ()
Date: November 27, 2012 10:06AM

Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> i'm a lefty who happens to be anti-israel (not
> anti-jew, just anti-israel). most of you people
> on this board lean to the right -- just wondering
> on your opinion on the current round of
> israel/gaza conflict. and specifically, are you
> guys fed up yet with american support of israel?


I am confused because you say that you are a lefty, but you do not support Israel.

The only reason that Israel even exists is because Truman (D) supported its establishment. Without that support and continued American support thereafter, Irael would not exist today.

Truman's support of Israel locked in the American Jewish vote (and monetary support) for the Democratic Party. That support continues to this day. In 2012, 69% of the Jewish vote went to Obama despite his lukewarm rhetoric regarding Israel during his first term, so don't go thinking that The Messiah will abandon Israel (pay attention to his actions, not his words).

When (not if) a full-blown war breaks out in Gaza, we will be one of the major players, like it or not. It is not an issue of right or left, it is simple economics.

Re: right wingers -- your opinion on israel/gaza
Posted by: Iron Shield ()
Date: November 27, 2012 10:44AM

Nuff said
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