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Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:24PM

GT Wrote:
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> To FACTS .
> This issue to recall stu is ridiculous . YOur
> fake outrage makes me laugh. The mother of the 8
> year mentioned in all her campaign literature that
> her child had special needs .
>
So what? As a parent I can talk about my child. A school board member cannot take that information to the press. After an investigation, the state ruled against Stu, and so did the Feds. Both found him guilty of violating the child's rights. The School board is now having privacy training so that no other board member violates these laws. It would appear that the board, and the state, and the feds, found it an important law, one that Stu violated, even after being told to stop by the state and by the federal Department of education. Apparently the authorities are not as dismissive of the rights of children as you are. Stu, and you, may disagree with the law, but that doesn't mean that either of you can violate it.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:28PM

word Wrote:
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> FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at the
> Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> money for the lawsuit.
>
> Everyone come on out and get your car washed.


I think I smell fear. Doesn't everyone deserve their day in court? Do you fear our day in court will erode your plans? If you think the MANY Caps supporters can't afford this, what are you worried about? (Afterall, isn't this why the SLPTA picked FM and FL and not Langley?)

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:33PM

>>>at the end of the day, stu may have initiated the RD but it was his neighbors who cut the deals and the rest of the SB who went along without insisting that programmatic approaches were tried first<<<

No, at the end of the day Stu could have moved only people in his district, Floris and Fox Mill, without making any deals with any other school board member. He didn't need Janie or Kathy or anyone else. Kathy chose to move Navy students out of Chantilly, those are her schools, not Stu's.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: TMo is a Ho ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:39PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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>
> There is NO CHANCE of success on this suit.
>
> Please redirect your energy to pupil placement or
> the recall litigtion.

Why not lead them to direct energy into trying the school you claim to love?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:43PM

>>>There is no State law requiring SB to follow any process. SB could have skipped any public input and just voted RD.<<<

That's what they will do with the next redistricting. They will have outside "experts" advise them how to draw the boundaries. Of course they will have told those experts what they want done. FCPS will pay a consulting firm thousands to provide them cover for whatever they want to do next. Public meetings have proven to not give them the answers that they want, so they won't make that mistake again. They won't ask the public, they'll ask 'experts'.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: ManBearPig ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:48PM

I would be willing to bet a lot that the people supporting the CAPS lawsuit did not support Al Gore suing to change the results of the 2000 election. What a bunch of hypocrites. Waaaaa! We don't like the results, so we'll suuuueeee!
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Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: fm/c/o parent ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:54PM

word Wrote:
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> FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at the
> Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> money for the lawsuit.
>
> Everyone come on out and get your car washed.


Seriously? That's a funny place to do it. I'm probably being gullible...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2008 09:57PM by fm/c/o parent.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: justice ()
Date: March 05, 2008 09:56PM

investment Wrote:
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> Hopeitworks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fairfax CAPS is suing now. They want 300-400
> per
> > family . They Claim they can reverse this whole
> > thing. Does anyone have info on this? Do they
> have
> > a chance of winning. Should I bother donating ,
> > this is alot of money
>
>
> like all investments, there is always risk...how
> much are you willing to risk for your children?

400 is nothing. Send the check now, you may be able to get your kids' education back on track. That is worth everything.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:00PM

does anyone know Wrote:
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> It is my understanding that there is a way out for
> some of the issues on the table. A school board
> member from the side that "won" can present an
> amendment to be voted on again. For instance, one
> of the six who voted against Navy, could bring up
> another amendment to amend the first vote. Since
> the vote was a 6-6 tie, it seems there should be
> more discussion until a majority rule. Is anyone
> familiar with this?

Yes, the majority rules. If the majority doesn't support a motion, it fails. That's the rule for the board. Of course they can change that rule if they choose. You are aware that the 6-6 vote was decided before the meeting? They decided who would vote for it and who got to vote against it so that it wouldn't pass. All big votes are decided before they are done in public. That's why they needed those 20+ phones calls over the weekend that Storck mentioned. They had to decide who would support what. Navy's move was the only thing still in question by the weekend before the vote.

The school board can vote to do something different next week. It's their board, they can change their own rules, change their own policies, change school boundaries, as they choose.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:02PM

justice Wrote:
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> investment Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hopeitworks Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fairfax CAPS is suing now. They want 300-400
> > per
> > > family . They Claim they can reverse this
> whole
> > > thing. Does anyone have info on this? Do they
> > have
> > > a chance of winning. Should I bother donating
> ,
> > > this is alot of money
> >
> >
> > like all investments, there is always
> risk...how
> > much are you willing to risk for your children?
>
> 400 is nothing. Send the check now, you may be
> able to get your kids' education back on track.
> That is worth everything.

Heck, house values alone make it worthwhile to send them $400, even if you don't have kids who have to change schools.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Lawsuit ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:02PM

word Wrote:
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> FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at the
> Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> money for the lawsuit.
>
> Everyone come on out and get your car washed.


And make sure you all put up a big sign in the middle of the shopping Center - RAISING MONEY TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN AWAY FROM SOUTH LAKES, just down the street.

Also, be careful of the gangs - or maybe you can get the gangers to hold up people at gunpoint to pay FAIRFAX CAPS

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:04PM

fm/c/o parent Wrote:
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> word Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at
> the
> > Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> > money for the lawsuit.
> >
> > Everyone come on out and get your car washed.
>
>
> Seriously? That's a funny place to do it. I'm
> probably being gullible...

I thought the same thing. It's pretty cool of them to have it there. I'll need gas by then, so I'll kill two birds.........so to speak.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:07PM

Lawsuit Wrote:
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> word Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at
> the
> > Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> > money for the lawsuit.
> >
> > Everyone come on out and get your car washed.
>
>
> And make sure you all put up a big sign in the
> middle of the shopping Center - RAISING MONEY TO
> KEEP OUR CHILDREN AWAY FROM SOUTH LAKES, just down
> the street.
>
> Also, be careful of the gangs - or maybe you can
> get the gangers to hold up people at gunpoint to
> pay FAIRFAX CAPS

Isn't that one of the better parts of Reston? Near the lake, with the big homes and near one of the white elementary schools, Sunrise Valley? So many of those people on the lake send their kids to private schools, I'm sure they will want to help out by getting their Mercedes and BMW's washed.

Isn't it Hunters Woods shopping area that is a bit sketchy? But South Lakes shopping area ok?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2008 10:09PM by Neen.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Gangs ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:08PM

Neen Wrote:
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> fm/c/o parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > word Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at
> > the
> > > Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> > > money for the lawsuit.
> > >
> > > Everyone come on out and get your car washed.
> >
> >
> > Seriously? That's a funny place to do it. I'm
> > probably being gullible...
>
> I thought the same thing. It's pretty cool of
> them to have it there. I'll need gas by then, so
> I'll kill two birds.........so to speak.


Maybe kill a third bird - knock off a couple of gangbangers while you are at it.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: fm/c/o parent ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:11PM

Neen Wrote:
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> Lawsuit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > word Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at
> > the
> > > Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> > > money for the lawsuit.
> > >
> > > Everyone come on out and get your car washed.
> >
> >
> > And make sure you all put up a big sign in the
> > middle of the shopping Center - RAISING MONEY
> TO
> > KEEP OUR CHILDREN AWAY FROM SOUTH LAKES, just
> down
> > the street.
> >
> > Also, be careful of the gangs - or maybe you
> can
> > get the gangers to hold up people at gunpoint
> to
> > pay FAIRFAX CAPS
>
> Isn't that one of the better parts of Reston? Near
> the lake, with the big homes and near one of the
> white elementary schools, Sunrise Valley?
>
> Isn't it Hunters Woods shopping area that is a
> bit sketchy? But South Lakes shopping area ok?

It seems like having a car wash at the gas station in the Fox Mill Shopping Center would be a good idea. Bake sale, yard sale, you name it, put it in that shopping center and you'd get a lot of interest.

Maybe Fox Mill should have a 50/50 raffle at Family Fun Night (not going to happen, but it would be pretty funny).

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Lawsuit ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:14PM

Neen Wrote:
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> Lawsuit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > word Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at
> > the
> > > Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> > > money for the lawsuit.
> > >
> > > Everyone come on out and get your car washed.
> >
> >
> > And make sure you all put up a big sign in the
> > middle of the shopping Center - RAISING MONEY
> TO
> > KEEP OUR CHILDREN AWAY FROM SOUTH LAKES, just
> down
> > the street.
> >
> > Also, be careful of the gangs - or maybe you
> can
> > get the gangers to hold up people at gunpoint
> to
> > pay FAIRFAX CAPS
>
> Isn't that one of the better parts of Reston? Near
> the lake, with the big homes and near one of the
> white elementary schools, Sunrise Valley? So many
> of those people on the lake send their kids to
> private schools, I'm sure they will want to help
> out by getting their Mercedes and BMW's washed.
>
> Isn't it Hunters Woods shopping area that is a
> bit sketchy? But South Lakes shopping area ok?

I thought there was nothing white in Reston on the South side of the tracks, only the astronaut areas. and as for the Mercedeses and BMW's, must be stolen from the other wealthier communities

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: garlic ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:14PM

justice Wrote:
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> investment Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hopeitworks Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fairfax CAPS is suing now. They want 300-400
> > per
> > > family . They Claim they can reverse this
> whole
> > > thing. Does anyone have info on this? Do they
> > have
> > > a chance of winning. Should I bother donating
> ,
> > > this is alot of money
> >
> >
> > like all investments, there is always
> risk...how
> > much are you willing to risk for your children?
>
> 400 is nothing. Send the check now, you may be
> able to get your kids' education back on track.
> That is worth everything.



If nothing else the boat load of info to be disclosed will be fodder for years of turmoil (or fun, depending on how you look at it)

Re: AP vs IB
Posted by: Forum Reader ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:15PM

Former IB Coordinator Wrote:
> ... The IB Diploma is a significant achievement. No
> backing away from weakness in a subject area.
> Required community service and mini-thesis. ...
> IB students must be able to write.

If you have followed this thread for any length of time you already know i agree with you on this. The FULL IB Diploma is a big achievement for the 5-7% of students for whom it is suitable. The problem is the way you, meaning the FCPS administrators, have implemented the IB programme in FCPS.

Consider Lamar Academy in McAllen Texas.
http://www.ibo.org/ibworld/jan07/access.cfm

"Lamar Academy graduated the fifth class of IB students in May 2006. Our school and district are proud that all of our 99 IB students have earned diplomas over the past four years. ... The school district decided to put the programme at Lamar Academy rather than at one of the three comprehensive high schools. The programme was set up so that the students who attempted the IB Diploma Programme were still considered students at their home campus, where they participated in electives, fine arts, and athletics, while they took all of their academic (IB) classes at Lamar Academy."

Why not use this model in FCPS? We have several other academies already. Students would still belong to their base schools, so local communities would not have to fear a "brain drain" and would get credit for their IB students' SOL scores. Base schools would keep their football teams and guitar lessons. Base schools would also ALL have full AP programs, including at a minimum AP English Comp, AP English Lit, AP Calculus AB and BC, AP sciences and foreign languages, and AP US History, Government, and World Civ.

The few students who have no "weakness in a subject area," can write well, can handle five years of a foreign language, AND can handle the "required community service and mini-thesis" will still be able to earn the full IB Diploma so they would lose nothing. At the same time, all other students, regardless of where they happen to live, would have access to a full AP program. Seems like a "win" for everyone.

What to you think?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: raffles ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:18PM

fm/c/o parent Wrote:
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> Neen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lawsuit Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > word Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat
> at
> > > the
> > > > Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to
> raise
> > > > money for the lawsuit.
> > > >
> > > > Everyone come on out and get your car
> washed.
> > >
> > >
> > > And make sure you all put up a big sign in
> the
> > > middle of the shopping Center - RAISING MONEY
> > TO
> > > KEEP OUR CHILDREN AWAY FROM SOUTH LAKES, just
> > down
> > > the street.
> > >
> > > Also, be careful of the gangs - or maybe you
> > can
> > > get the gangers to hold up people at gunpoint
> > to
> > > pay FAIRFAX CAPS
> >
> > Isn't that one of the better parts of Reston?
> Near
> > the lake, with the big homes and near one of
> the
> > white elementary schools, Sunrise Valley?
> >
> > Isn't it Hunters Woods shopping area that is a
> > bit sketchy? But South Lakes shopping area ok?
>
> It seems like having a car wash at the gas station
> in the Fox Mill Shopping Center would be a good
> idea. Bake sale, yard sale, you name it, put it in
> that shopping center and you'd get a lot of
> interest.
>
> Maybe Fox Mill should have a 50/50 raffle at
> Family Fun Night (not going to happen, but it
> would be pretty funny).


Sorry, the 50/50 raffles are reserved for Floris. Ha-ha -- well, really its not funny.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: get real ()
Date: March 05, 2008 10:39PM

If this lawsuit is heard, it won't be what you think. The School Board will not be lined up and compelled to listen to hundreds of tirades from neurotic mommies and daddies. That's not what courtrooms are for.

It will be the school boards lawyers and your lawyers....and then the dismissal. Not even worth taking the day off to attend.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 11:48PM

ManBearPig Wrote:
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> I would be willing to bet a lot that the people
> supporting the CAPS lawsuit did not support Al
> Gore suing to change the results of the 2000
> election. What a bunch of hypocrites. Waaaaa!
> We don't like the results, so we'll suuuueeee!

Yes, it's the American way and has worked for millions.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 11:52PM

ManBearPig Wrote:
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> I would be willing to bet a lot that the people
> supporting the CAPS lawsuit did not support Al
> Gore suing to change the results of the 2000
> election. What a bunch of hypocrites. Waaaaa!
> We don't like the results, so we'll suuuueeee!

Yes, it's the American way and has worked for millions.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 05, 2008 11:53PM

ManBearPig Wrote:
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> I would be willing to bet a lot that the people
> supporting the CAPS lawsuit did not support Al
> Gore suing to change the results of the 2000
> election. What a bunch of hypocrites. Waaaaa!
> We don't like the results, so we'll suuuueeee!

Yes, it's the American way and has worked for millions.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: goodluck ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:44AM

Neen
How much money are you going to give ?






Neen Wrote:
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> ManBearPig Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would be willing to bet a lot that the people
> > supporting the CAPS lawsuit did not support Al
> > Gore suing to change the results of the 2000
> > election. What a bunch of hypocrites. Waaaaa!
>
> > We don't like the results, so we'll suuuueeee!
>
> Yes, it's the American way and has worked for
> millions.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: RD PARENT ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:47AM

how_easyly_you_give_up Wrote:
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> CAPS Suit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Throwing money down a rabbit hole. Try SL, you
> > just might like it.
>
>
> Is that the message we want to send out -
> surrender without a fight. We want to have our day
> in court. In court the SB will have to listen and
> answer to questions. It is no longer about SL - it
> is about rights, justice and principle now


FairfaxCAPS and the people who support their position will fight to stop redistricting. We will do what ever needs to be done to over turn the unfair SB decisions to redistrict.

When the SB votes on any issue, the MAJORITY prevails and the issue is passed. This is the American way.

Not so on the redistrict issue, thousands of constituents voted not to redistrict and a few hundread wanted to RD. Clearly the MAJORITY should have defeated RD, but the SB voted to RD in a flawed process.

Therefore, if we have to raise money via car washers, selling raffle tickets or what ever we will do it.

It is all about our rights, our principle and the AMERICAN way.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Baffled ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:58AM

RD PARENT Wrote:
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> how_easyly_you_give_up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CAPS Suit Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Throwing money down a rabbit hole. Try SL,
> you
> > > just might like it.
> >
> >
> > Is that the message we want to send out -
> > surrender without a fight. We want to have our
> day
> > in court. In court the SB will have to listen
> and
> > answer to questions. It is no longer about SL -
> it
> > is about rights, justice and principle now
>
>
> FairfaxCAPS and the people who support their
> position will fight to stop redistricting. We will
> do what ever needs to be done to over turn the
> unfair SB decisions to redistrict.
>
> When the SB votes on any issue, the MAJORITY
> prevails and the issue is passed. This is the
> American way.
>
> Not so on the redistrict issue, thousands of
> constituents voted not to redistrict and a few
> hundread wanted to RD. Clearly the MAJORITY should
> have defeated RD, but the SB voted to RD in a
> flawed process.
>
> Therefore, if we have to raise money via car
> washers, selling raffle tickets or what ever we
> will do it.
>
> It is all about our rights, our principle and the
> AMERICAN way.


Which reminds me about someone posting earlier about the SB tied votes for the two amendments (Navy and MI). Why did they say these amendments failed when there was a tie, there should have been a majority to either pass or not pass the amendments. I think they should have adopted a measure on how to proceed with tied votes on something. Thoughts?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Forum Reader ()
Date: March 06, 2008 08:54AM

Baffled Wrote:
> ... Which reminds me about someone posting earlier
> about the SB tied votes for the two amendments
> (Navy and MI). Why did they say these amendments
> failed when there was a tie, there should have
> been a majority to either pass or not pass the
> amendments. I think they should have adopted a
> measure on how to proceed with tied votes on
> something. Thoughts?

There is already a long standing rule on ties: Any vote fails on a tie.

Since any motion fails on a tie, a 6-6 vote on an amendment (such as to exclude Navy) fails. HOWEVER, if Smith abstains, or even just conveniently is out of the room during the vote, and the amendment gets 6 votes and only five against, then the amendment passes and becomes part of the main motion.

If the main RD motion (either amended or unamended) had a 6-6 tie vote, it would have failed. If a School Board member felt an amendment was essential, it would be logical to vote no on the main motion.

That rarely happens in Congress or anywhere else. For example, there are MANY failed budget amendments. If all congressmen stuck to their guns and voted no on any budget that did not include all of "their" proposed budget amendments, then few budgets would ever pass.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: dont_fight_between_yourselves ()
Date: March 06, 2008 08:59AM

Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit will succeed. That is exactly playing into the devious designs of the school board politicians. Stu is counting on this to break the legal effort. Each one of us has put in so much time and effort in this, another $300 for a chance to win in court is worth it. The posts on this board saying lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep in mind some posts could be from plants from Stu Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: fm/c/o parent ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:12AM

dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
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> Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit will
> succeed. That is exactly playing into the devious
> designs of the school board politicians. Stu is
> counting on this to break the legal effort. Each
> one of us has put in so much time and effort in
> this, another $300 for a chance to win in court
> is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep in
> mind some posts could be from plants from Stu
> Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.


Good point. None of us know what the outcome of a lawsuit will be, but if anyone supports the goals of the suit, then they should consider contributing. CAPS can give a bit more info about the plans for the suit, but I think that the details and legal strategy aren't being discussed publically. This of course is frustrating for people trying to decide if they would be wasting their money contributing to a lost cause. However, when you think about it, it does make sense that some things not be common knowledge. If you've watched enough legal dramas on TV, you can understand that. Everyone has to make their own decision about supporting a suit, but at least don't be put off by nameless people saying it won't work. One thing's for sure, it has a higher chance of working if there is enough money behind it. You can always give a little now, a little more later, if you aren't too confident yet.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: LAWSUIT ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:48AM

dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
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> Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit will
> succeed. That is exactly playing into the devious
> designs of the school board politicians. Stu is
> counting on this to break the legal effort. Each
> one of us has put in so much time and effort in
> this, another $300 for a chance to win in court
> is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep in
> mind some posts could be from plants from Stu
> Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.

I agree, the SB will use all tricks to stop the lawsuit.


I wonder how maney people who are making posts on this site are FCPS employees,
School Board members and PTA officials who are trying to direct people to South Lakes via misinformation, fear and political pressure?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: another fm parent ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:52AM

This is a ridiculous arguement.Who would give money to this without knowing on what grounds. IF they lose won't they have to pay the government court cost or are we letting the taxpayers all over the county pick up this tab?





LAWSUIT Wrote:
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> dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit
> will
> > succeed. That is exactly playing into the
> devious
> > designs of the school board politicians. Stu is
> > counting on this to break the legal effort.
> Each
> > one of us has put in so much time and effort in
> > this, another $300 for a chance to win in
> court
> > is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> > lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep in
> > mind some posts could be from plants from Stu
> > Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.
>
> I agree, the SB will use all tricks to stop the
> lawsuit.
>
>
> I wonder how maney people who are making posts on
> this site are FCPS employees,
> School Board members and PTA officials who are
> trying to direct people to South Lakes via
> misinformation, fear and political pressure?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: F*** CAPS ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:53AM

fm/c/o parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit
> will
> > succeed. That is exactly playing into the
> devious
> > designs of the school board politicians. Stu is
> > counting on this to break the legal effort.
> Each
> > one of us has put in so much time and effort in
> > this, another $300 for a chance to win in
> court
> > is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> > lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep in
> > mind some posts could be from plants from Stu
> > Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.
>
>
> Good point. None of us know what the outcome of a
> lawsuit will be, but if anyone supports the goals
> of the suit, then they should consider
> contributing. CAPS can give a bit more info about
> the plans for the suit, but I think that the
> details and legal strategy aren't being discussed
> publically. This of course is frustrating for
> people trying to decide if they would be wasting
> their money contributing to a lost cause. However,
> when you think about it, it does make sense that
> some things not be common knowledge. If you've
> watched enough legal dramas on TV, you can
> understand that. Everyone has to make their own
> decision about supporting a suit, but at least
> don't be put off by nameless people saying it
> won't work. One thing's for sure, it has a higher
> chance of working if there is enough money behind
> it. You can always give a little now, a little
> more later, if you aren't too confident yet.


Crybabies
Aggravating
Pointless
Slap-suits

You CAPS losers don't seem to have any clue that you've drastically overplayed your hand. Yeah, I'm sure those FME people who were neutral to favoring your position on RD are thrilled that you posted private FME emails on this blog and are now threatening to boycott FME's Family Fun Night. Sure, we'll throw however much we can spare to your lawyers instead of raising money for our school because you didn't like our PTA Presidents pro-RD/anti-split FME activities.

I might just let you wash my car this weekend but I'm not giving you $10 until I make sure you've adequately pimped my ride before I get Bruce's guided tour of my kids new school.

Way to go CAPS.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: navy parent ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:58AM

People, you have to take action if you want to get your way. If you want to be treated like Langley..you have to act like Langley. That includes contributing to CAPS, filing your pupil-placement forms, moving, contributing to political campaigns, whatever. And you have to throw a bit of green around, unless you want to be told what to do.

The SB obviously believes that RDed parents are SHEEPLE. Some of the SL posters on this board obviously believe that we SHOULD be sheeple. In the SB speeches they were very clear that we should just act like the good little herd that we are and go where they tell us to. And they will take good care of us. Baa baa.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Majority ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:00AM

RD PARENT Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> how_easyly_you_give_up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CAPS Suit Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Throwing money down a rabbit hole. Try SL,
> you
> > > just might like it.
> >
> >
> > Is that the message we want to send out -
> > surrender without a fight. We want to have our
> day
> > in court. In court the SB will have to listen
> and
> > answer to questions. It is no longer about SL -
> it
> > is about rights, justice and principle now
>
>
> FairfaxCAPS and the people who support their
> position will fight to stop redistricting. We will
> do what ever needs to be done to over turn the
> unfair SB decisions to redistrict.
>
> When the SB votes on any issue, the MAJORITY
> prevails and the issue is passed. This is the
> American way.
>
> Not so on the redistrict issue, thousands of
> constituents voted not to redistrict and a few
> hundread wanted to RD. Clearly the MAJORITY should
> have defeated RD, but the SB voted to RD in a
> flawed process.
>
> Therefore, if we have to raise money via car
> washers, selling raffle tickets or what ever we
> will do it.
>
> It is all about our rights, our principle and the
> AMERICAN way.


And exactly what evidence do you have that a MAJORITY would have voted this way, oh self-righteous one.

MAYBE a majority in these four or five communities, but that don't make it a majority acorss Fairfax. And just to be clear, it is not the 'voters" that you indicated voted or might have voted against the RD - this was the job of all those we all, including yourselves, voted for the SB. And of those the MAJORITY favored the RD.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Baffled ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:18AM

navy parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> People, you have to take action if you want to get
> your way. If you want to be treated like
> Langley..you have to act like Langley. That
> includes contributing to CAPS, filing your
> pupil-placement forms, moving, contributing to
> political campaigns, whatever. And you have to
> throw a bit of green around, unless you want to be
> told what to do.
>
> The SB obviously believes that RDed parents are
> SHEEPLE. Some of the SL posters on this board
> obviously believe that we SHOULD be sheeple. In
> the SB speeches they were very clear that we
> should just act like the good little herd that we
> are and go where they tell us to. And they will
> take good care of us. Baa baa.

"Sheeple"? Yes that's a good way of describing the RDed parents from the way the SB has treated those. Folks, be careful of what you say with your posts..I am sure there are SL spies reading these posts and possibly feeding to the Stu camp about all this especially concerning lawsuit issues.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: navy parent ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:25AM

And exactly what evidence do you have that a
> MAJORITY would have voted this way, oh
> self-righteous one.

It can be strongly assumed a majority of us would have voted to stop the rd based on the outcry from a majority of the communities that were affected and that is who would be voting.

>
> MAYBE a majority in these four or five
> communities, but that don't make it a majority
> acorss Fairfax. And just to be clear, it is not
> the 'voters" that you indicated voted or might
> have voted against the RD - this was the job of
> all those we all, including yourselves, voted for
> the SB. And of those the MAJORITY favored the RD.

Had the sb had even one discussion BEFORE their reelections, than I am pretty sure there would have been a significantly different sb sitting. It would seem they purposefully waited until after elections when in the past, they discussed beforehand.

On another topic, can people please contact sb again to convince one member to reintroduce the amendments for Navy and Madison Island since they were a tie? I am sure there is one member of the board who recognizes the unjustness of their vote. This is completely within sb procedures.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: fm/c/o parent ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:31AM

F*** CAPS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fm/c/o parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit
> > will
> > > succeed. That is exactly playing into the
> > devious
> > > designs of the school board politicians. Stu
> is
> > > counting on this to break the legal effort.
> > Each
> > > one of us has put in so much time and effort
> in
> > > this, another $300 for a chance to win in
> > court
> > > is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> > > lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep
> in
> > > mind some posts could be from plants from Stu
> > > Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.
> >
> >
> > Good point. None of us know what the outcome of
> a
> > lawsuit will be, but if anyone supports the
> goals
> > of the suit, then they should consider
> > contributing. CAPS can give a bit more info
> about
> > the plans for the suit, but I think that the
> > details and legal strategy aren't being
> discussed
> > publically. This of course is frustrating for
> > people trying to decide if they would be
> wasting
> > their money contributing to a lost cause.
> However,
> > when you think about it, it does make sense
> that
> > some things not be common knowledge. If you've
> > watched enough legal dramas on TV, you can
> > understand that. Everyone has to make their own
> > decision about supporting a suit, but at least
> > don't be put off by nameless people saying it
> > won't work. One thing's for sure, it has a
> higher
> > chance of working if there is enough money
> behind
> > it. You can always give a little now, a little
> > more later, if you aren't too confident yet.
>
>
> Crybabies
> Aggravating
> Pointless
> Slap-suits
>
> You CAPS losers don't seem to have any clue that
> you've drastically overplayed your hand. Yeah,
> I'm sure those FME people who were neutral to
> favoring your position on RD are thrilled that you
> posted private FME emails on this blog and are now
> threatening to boycott FME's Family Fun Night.
> Sure, we'll throw however much we can spare to
> your lawyers instead of raising money for our
> school because you didn't like our PTA Presidents
> pro-RD/anti-split FME activities.
>
> I might just let you wash my car this weekend but
> I'm not giving you $10 until I make sure you've
> adequately pimped my ride before I get Bruce's
> guided tour of my kids new school.
>
> Way to go CAPS.


Why so hostile? If you don't want to contribute, then don't. No one is trying to force YOU to do anything you don't want to, if you get my point.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Agree ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:33AM

I agree please ANTI RDs do us and yourselves a FAVOR and STOP POSTING SO MUCH INFORMATION on this BLOG. Some of the SBMs drew quotes from right here. At this point all communication regarding law suits needs to be stopped other than among yourselves and fundraising info. If/when a law suit gets to discovery phase who posted what here may become public information. You must assume nothing is private if you wouldnt post it under your own name DONT POST IT.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: MAJORITY ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:35AM

navy parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And exactly what evidence do you have that a
> > MAJORITY would have voted this way, oh
> > self-righteous one.
>
> It can be strongly assumed a majority of us would
> have voted to stop the rd based on the outcry from
> a majority of the communities that were affected
> and that is who would be voting.
>
> >
> > MAYBE a majority in these four or five
> > communities, but that don't make it a majority
> > acorss Fairfax. And just to be clear, it is
> not
> > the 'voters" that you indicated voted or might
> > have voted against the RD - this was the job of
> > all those we all, including yourselves, voted
> for
> > the SB. And of those the MAJORITY favored the
> RD.
>
> Had the sb had even one discussion BEFORE their
> reelections, than I am pretty sure there would
> have been a significantly different sb sitting.
> It would seem they purposefully waited until after
> elections when in the past, they discussed
> beforehand.
>
> On another topic, can people please contact sb
> again to convince one member to reintroduce the
> amendments for Navy and Madison Island since they
> were a tie? I am sure there is one member of the
> board who recognizes the unjustness of their vote.
> This is completely within sb procedures.


Assumptions are a dangerous thing

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Pro-RD ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:36AM

fm/c/o parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> F*** CAPS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fm/c/o parent Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dont fight each other on whether the
> lawsuit
> > > will
> > > > succeed. That is exactly playing into the
> > > devious
> > > > designs of the school board politicians.
> Stu
> > is
> > > > counting on this to break the legal effort.
> > > Each
> > > > one of us has put in so much time and
> effort
> > in
> > > > this, another $300 for a chance to win in
> > > court
> > > > is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> > > > lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also
> keep
> > in
> > > > mind some posts could be from plants from
> Stu
> > > > Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good point. None of us know what the outcome
> of
> > a
> > > lawsuit will be, but if anyone supports the
> > goals
> > > of the suit, then they should consider
> > > contributing. CAPS can give a bit more info
> > about
> > > the plans for the suit, but I think that the
> > > details and legal strategy aren't being
> > discussed
> > > publically. This of course is frustrating for
> > > people trying to decide if they would be
> > wasting
> > > their money contributing to a lost cause.
> > However,
> > > when you think about it, it does make sense
> > that
> > > some things not be common knowledge. If
> you've
> > > watched enough legal dramas on TV, you can
> > > understand that. Everyone has to make their
> own
> > > decision about supporting a suit, but at
> least
> > > don't be put off by nameless people saying it
> > > won't work. One thing's for sure, it has a
> > higher
> > > chance of working if there is enough money
> > behind
> > > it. You can always give a little now, a
> little
> > > more later, if you aren't too confident yet.
> >
> >
> > Crybabies
> > Aggravating
> > Pointless
> > Slap-suits
> >
> > You CAPS losers don't seem to have any clue
> that
> > you've drastically overplayed your hand. Yeah,
> > I'm sure those FME people who were neutral to
> > favoring your position on RD are thrilled that
> you
> > posted private FME emails on this blog and are
> now
> > threatening to boycott FME's Family Fun Night.
> > Sure, we'll throw however much we can spare to
> > your lawyers instead of raising money for our
> > school because you didn't like our PTA
> Presidents
> > pro-RD/anti-split FME activities.
> >
> > I might just let you wash my car this weekend
> but
> > I'm not giving you $10 until I make sure you've
> > adequately pimped my ride before I get Bruce's
> > guided tour of my kids new school.
> >
> > Way to go CAPS.
>
>
> Why so hostile? If you don't want to contribute,
> then don't. No one is trying to force YOU to do
> anything you don't want to, if you get my point.


I was in favor of RD, but agree, that no need for hostility, from either side

Re: high school redistricting
Date: March 06, 2008 11:24AM

I agree there should be no hostility, but don't believe CAPS agrees. Case in point: having the carwash at South Lakes shopping center. That seems highly symbolic of hostility and intentionally provocative on the part of CAPS. Not that I care all that much, but you can't have it both ways.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2008 11:24AM by South Lakes Pyramid parent.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Pro-RD ()
Date: March 06, 2008 11:28AM

South Lakes Pyramid parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I agree there should be no hostility, but don't
> believe CAPS agrees. Case in point: having the
> carwash at South Lakes shopping center. That
> seems highly symbolic of hostility and
> intentionally provocative on the part of CAPS. Not
> that I care all that much, but you can't have it
> both ways.


Is that for real that they are doing it there? or is it just a put on.

It sounds too ridiculuos too think it is for real. If so, I guess they would like the SL community to finance their law suit - or maybe they haven't figured out the poor socio-economics in the SL would not yield the optimal yield...maybe they ought to do the car wash in McLean.

Or maybe we can do somethign else...go have the cars washed, and then not pay at the end :)

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: F*** CAPS ()
Date: March 06, 2008 11:38AM

I have no animosity to anyone personally, just the CAPS organization.

It's amusing to me all this "hey, why so hostile" talk when they are the ones shouting loudest and threatening legal action. It's like every now and then they say, "hey, were diverse! Let's put pictures of all the diverse kids in our group on our website, and make sure they're all girls since they're so much cuter than boys." Lets quit name calling and start talking facts and take a positive, "lets work together" attitude. Then they inevitably revert to whatever desparate measure they feels justify their means.

I don't know who's idea it was to forward Rona's email intended for a few FME parents (obviously not pre-screened for CAPS membership) to their mailing list and then post it on this thread but it was FAR more inappropriate than anything Rona did. I don't know who came up with the "lets cut off our nose to spite our face idea" to boycott FME Family Fun Night but I'm sure it have the complete opposite effect of what they want as so many of their activities do.

I don't know who these people are and I don't want to know because they may be people I associate with and would otherwise consider friends. I don't have any problem with them giving as much money as they want to their legal war chest because what they do with their money is no business of mine.

Without a doubt, CAPS has made enemies within FME of those who could have probably otherwise been allies. As anyone who's ever gone through a messy divorce knows, any legal action you end up bringing to court will benefit nobody but the lawyers involved. Then again, maybe I'm just a FCPS spy sent here to foil your best laid plans once again.

Again, personally no hard feelings to anybody. I know people's passions sometimes get the better of them but I do wish whatever CAPS is cooking up they take the advice of the above posters and do so outside of the public eye.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: capsrdonkeys ()
Date: March 06, 2008 11:45AM

Many people in FOX mill who started neutral on RD now are prosouthlakes due to the horrendous self absorption of the capsmembers. If true or not the email on boycotting fox mill events is seen as associated with CAPS .I belive some members of CAPS are using this platform for their own personal smear campaign against the fox mill PTA

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: skeptical ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:10PM

capsrdonkeys Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Many people in FOX mill who started neutral on RD
> now are prosouthlakes due to the horrendous self
> absorption of the capsmembers. If true or not the
> email on boycotting fox mill events is seen as
> associated with CAPS .I belive some members of
> CAPS are using this platform for their own
> personal smear campaign against the fox mill PTA


Has anyone actually received an e-mail from CAPS or anyone else advocating Fox Mill events such as Family Fun Night? I've seen people on here say that it's a ridiculous idea, but I never saw any evidence that anyone was actually promoting this. Anything's possible, so maybe some people tossed the idea around, but I am wondering if it's just a rumor. Anyway, I never saw anything about it, so if you did, please substantiate.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Achievement ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:15PM

This was sent from Rachel Carson today. Note the date change. Those with kids going to South Lakes may want to attend. I think the school will have course program and registration packets, but I'm not sure.

"Due to the fact that we have not yet received the addresses of those students who have been
affected by the boundary decision, we are postponing the March 7th high school orientations
until Tuesday, March 11, our early release day. We hope to have all of the necessary
information by that date in order to enable us to help our 8th grade students make a smooth
and successful transition. Any questions about the transition process should be directed
to your team Counselor or Administrator."

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:17PM

another fm parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is a ridiculous arguement.Who would give
> money to this without knowing on what grounds. IF
> they lose won't they have to pay the government
> court cost or are we letting the taxpayers all
> over the county pick up this tab?
>
>
>
>
>
> LAWSUIT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dont fight each other on whether the lawsuit
> > will
> > > succeed. That is exactly playing into the
> > devious
> > > designs of the school board politicians. Stu
> is
> > > counting on this to break the legal effort.
> > Each
> > > one of us has put in so much time and effort
> in
> > > this, another $300 for a chance to win in
> > court
> > > is worth it. The posts on this board saying
> > > lawsuit will fail are not lawyers. Also keep
> in
> > > mind some posts could be from plants from Stu
> > > Gibson's camp to weaken the lawsuit effort.
> >
> > I agree, the SB will use all tricks to stop the
> > lawsuit.
> >
> >
> > I wonder how maney people who are making posts
> on
> > this site are FCPS employees,
> > School Board members and PTA officials who are
> > trying to direct people to South Lakes via
> > misinformation, fear and political pressure?


It's ridiculous that you consider this a ridiculous argument. Gee, I wonder what side you are on? Why are you worried about other people's money? Is is any of your concern how we spend our money?

While FM and FL aren't as fancy smancy as Langley, we do have some smart lawyers in our community who are supporting this effort. If there was no chance for success, they wouldn't be doing it-period. And, fortunately the smart people of FM and FL and MI know the legal team cannot share information right now.

Since this will not be a baseless suit, it's VERY unlikley Caps will have to pick up the court costs for the SB whichever way it goes. Don't worry, they've put it all into the budget. Of course, you're getting off easy. The taxpayers of FC are paying for the SB's costs.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: don't know ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:17PM

skeptical Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>>
> Has anyone actually received an e-mail from CAPS
> or anyone else advocating Fox Mill events such as
> Family Fun Night? I've seen people on here say
> that it's a ridiculous idea, but I never saw any
> evidence that anyone was actually promoting this.
>

I havent seen it nor have I seen anything on their website about this or the car wash. If there is anyone here from CAPS, I would suggest that any announcements about car washes or boycotts be put up on the CAP website otherwise I am not inclined to believe them.

I don't think I could support a boycott of family fun night, however, my car could use a wash.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Enoughaboutrace ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:19PM

Enough with the racial crap. I'm white and I'm not rich. I was against the redistricting and I'm getting my kid ready to go to South Lakes. Ya, I'm not thrilled with it, but it's because I am mentally set on Oakton. I have a couple of years to get used to the idea. Those of you with an 8th grader I understand how upset you are. If a re-districting had to happen, it shouldn't be such a quick turn around and they should wait to make the current 7th graders be the first class. Keep up the BS racial crap and you're just making it worse.

CAPS needs to change their slogan. I have to agree that the schools are the county schools not our schools. Let's be adults people.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:22PM

get real Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If this lawsuit is heard, it won't be what you
> think. The School Board will not be lined up and
> compelled to listen to hundreds of tirades from
> neurotic mommies and daddies. That's not what
> courtrooms are for.
>
> It will be the school boards lawyers and your
> lawyers....and then the dismissal. Not even worth
> taking the day off to attend.


You're showing your ignorance here. Of course, it's going to be lawyer to lawyer. Did you really think that people in FM, FL and MI think they're going to be able to cross examine the SB? Get real. But, it's quite likekly that certain members of the SB will be required to testify. Dismissal? Maybe or maybe not.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:32PM

F*** CAPS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have no animosity to anyone personally, just the
> CAPS organization.
>
> It's amusing to me all this "hey, why so hostile"
> talk when they are the ones shouting loudest and
> threatening legal action. It's like every now and
> then they say, "hey, were diverse! Let's put
> pictures of all the diverse kids in our group on
> our website, and make sure they're all girls since
> they're so much cuter than boys." Lets quit name
> calling and start talking facts and take a
> positive, "lets work together" attitude. Then
> they inevitably revert to whatever desparate
> measure they feels justify their means.
>
> I don't know who's idea it was to forward Rona's
> email intended for a few FME parents (obviously
> not pre-screened for CAPS membership) to their
> mailing list and then post it on this thread but
> it was FAR more inappropriate than anything Rona
> did. I don't know who came up with the "lets cut
> off our nose to spite our face idea" to boycott
> FME Family Fun Night but I'm sure it have the
> complete opposite effect of what they want as so
> many of their activities do.
>
> I don't know who these people are and I don't want
> to know because they may be people I associate
> with and would otherwise consider friends. I
> don't have any problem with them giving as much
> money as they want to their legal war chest
> because what they do with their money is no
> business of mine.
>
> Without a doubt, CAPS has made enemies within FME
> of those who could have probably otherwise been
> allies. As anyone who's ever gone through a messy
> divorce knows, any legal action you end up
> bringing to court will benefit nobody but the
> lawyers involved. Then again, maybe I'm just a
> FCPS spy sent here to foil your best laid plans
> once again.
>
> Again, personally no hard feelings to anybody. I
> know people's passions sometimes get the better of
> them but I do wish whatever CAPS is cooking up
> they take the advice of the above posters and do
> so outside of the public eye.


Come on. There are probably 4 or 5 hot-tempered people who said they were were to boycott family fun night. Hundreds and hundreds (like 99.9 percent) of FM thinks that's a dumb idea--and have always thought it was a dumb idea. And,the only reason Stu Gibson mentioned it at the SBM was to give the impression that folks at FM were unreasonable (he wasn't really trying to pacify the situation.) Nothing could be further from the truth, but it's easy for the evil-minded to expliot a few dumb comments and attribute it to a community. Let's move on. There is plenty to pick at back and forth, but this is just plain dumb.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:34PM

South Lakes Pyramid parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I agree there should be no hostility, but don't
> believe CAPS agrees. Case in point: having the
> carwash at South Lakes shopping center. That
> seems highly symbolic of hostility and
> intentionally provocative on the part of CAPS. Not
> that I care all that much, but you can't have it
> both ways.



You are kidding, right? There is no car wash this weekend--at SL shopping center or anywhere else.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:40PM

capsrdonkeys Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Many people in FOX mill who started neutral on RD
> now are prosouthlakes due to the horrendous self
> absorption of the capsmembers. If true or not the
> email on boycotting fox mill events is seen as
> associated with CAPS .I belive some members of
> CAPS are using this platform for their own
> personal smear campaign against the fox mill PTA


Obviously you are pro RD. You are not fooling anyone. Most folks who started out neutral (me for instance) are now firmly against the RD. Caps is a large organization (very large now) and there are many different voices. But, everyone is united in their anti RD stance. (I'm sure YOU thought Caps was self absorbed from the moment you heard the organization existed. Your remarks are not compelling or honest.)

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Baffled ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:45PM

Know something Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> South Lakes Pyramid parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I agree there should be no hostility, but don't
> > believe CAPS agrees. Case in point: having the
> > carwash at South Lakes shopping center. That
> > seems highly symbolic of hostility and
> > intentionally provocative on the part of CAPS.
> Not
> > that I care all that much, but you can't have
> it
> > both ways.
>
>
>
> You are kidding, right? There is no car wash this
> weekend--at SL shopping center or anywhere else.


Yeah, I have not heard anything about about such a car wash event this weekend at the SL shopping center either.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Corrections ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:49PM

CAPS has no fundraising events planned and has never planned to hold a car wash anywhere.

Any CAPS meetings or activities will be listed on the CAPS site and distributed via email to its distribution list.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Corrections ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:53PM

CAPS did not initiate and does not support any boycott of Family Fun Night at Fox Mill.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Hostility ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:58PM

I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston car wash, but they did meet at the Reston Community Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by many to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly does, my Mom always used to say.

By the time CAPS wastes a whole bunch of the school budget on their worthless suit, they will have no sympathizers in any communities but theirs. They will be pariahs, in fact. If there were a do-over, which there won't be, a lot more groups would be jumping onto the CAPS are Ugly bandwagon.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Car Wash ()
Date: March 06, 2008 12:59PM

I think this is where the information about a car wash first appeared:

word Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FairfaxCAPS is having a car wash this Sat at the
> Sunoco at South Lakes Village Center to raise
> money for the lawsuit.
>
> Everyone come on out and get your car washed.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Hostility ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:01PM

Corrections Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> CAPS did not initiate and does not support any
> boycott of Family Fun Night at Fox Mill.

Actually, I think they did before they didn't. The trial balloon didn't go over well, so they backed off. They will overplay their hand again soon.

When will you people learn that CAPS gave you faulty information, stale and self-serving arguments, and a lot of dumb strategies (can you say yellow shirts?).

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Sheeps ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:01PM

Agree Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I agree please ANTI RDs do us and yourselves a
> FAVOR and STOP POSTING SO MUCH INFORMATION on this
> BLOG. Some of the SBMs drew quotes from right
> here. At this point all communication regarding
> law suits needs to be stopped other than among
> yourselves and fundraising info. If/when a law
> suit gets to discovery phase who posted what here
> may become public information. You must assume
> nothing is private if you wouldnt post it under
> your own name DONT POST IT.


I can't wait to hear Stu refer to his "Sheeples" during testimony. Do you think the crowd will get in trouble for bleeting in court?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: slariah ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:12PM

Hostility Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston car
> wash, but they did meet at the Reston Community
> Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by many
> to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly does, my
> Mom always used to say.
>
> By the time CAPS wastes a whole bunch of the
> school budget on their worthless suit, they will
> have no sympathizers in any communities but
> theirs. They will be pariahs, in fact. If there
> were a do-over, which there won't be, a lot more
> groups would be jumping onto the CAPS are Ugly
> bandwagon.



Now this doesn't sound like those nice, nice people of SL that have posted here before. What happen to the "come on over, take a tour, you will be welcomed, you will love us" crap? I hope your mother, SaraLeeVerity, is listening.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Capsrdonkeys ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:14PM

Actually your right! and if we do not want to make assumptions , lets go back to the- our schools our choice. This is false and totally a self absorbed statement . I never signed anything when I moved in to Fox mill saying these were my schools, and my choice. I thought all taxpayers paid for the schools and they were run by the county . I don't think they belonged to CAPS or is that another dumb assumption I am making .



Obviously you are pro RD. You are not fooling anyone. Most folks who started out neutral (me for instance) are now firmly against the RD. Caps is a large organization (very large now) and there are many different voices. But, everyone is united in their anti RD stance. (I'm sure YOU thought Caps was self absorbed from the moment you heard the organization existed. Your remarks are not compelling or honest.)

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: ToHostility ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:28PM

Hostility Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Corrections Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CAPS did not initiate and does not support any
> > boycott of Family Fun Night at Fox Mill.
>
> Actually, I think they did before they didn't.
> The trial balloon didn't go over well, so they
> backed off. They will overplay their hand again
> soon.
>
> When will you people learn that CAPS gave you
> faulty information, stale and self-serving
> arguments, and a lot of dumb strategies (can you
> say yellow shirts?).


The CAPS lawsuit will expose a lot of dirty tricks of SLHS and Gibson, the real trash in Fairfax county. Once that happens, county tax payers should request Gibson to pay for the legal fee.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: donkey ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:42PM

F*** CAPS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have no animosity to anyone personally, just the
> CAPS organization.
>
> It's amusing to me all this "hey, why so hostile"
> talk when they are the ones shouting loudest and
> threatening legal action. It's like every now and
> then they say, "hey, were diverse! Let's put
> pictures of all the diverse kids in our group on
> our website, and make sure they're all girls since
> they're so much cuter than boys." Lets quit name
> calling and start talking facts and take a
> positive, "lets work together" attitude. Then
> they inevitably revert to whatever desparate
> measure they feels justify their means.
>
> I don't know who's idea it was to forward Rona's
> email intended for a few FME parents (obviously
> not pre-screened for CAPS membership) to their
> mailing list and then post it on this thread but
> it was FAR more inappropriate than anything Rona
> did.


And, it is not above others in paid, public positions to do the same, now is it?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: SaraLeeVerity ()
Date: March 06, 2008 01:47PM

How do you know Hostility doesn't live in another district, say in Fox Mill or maybe Crossfield? You shouldn't make assumptions.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: March 06, 2008 02:31PM

dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The posts on this board saying lawsuit will fail are not lawyers.

I am a lawyer (as was my namesake) and a suit against this RD has NO SHOT.

If this case had 1 in 100 chance, I'd do it pro bono!

While my kids have gone and go to SL and I supported a redistricting, I oppose the RD that the SB approved.

The SL student body is first rate. It's a shame the administrators and instructional staff aren't as outstanding as the student body.

I despise the duplicity that Stu, Janie and others engaged it to reach this result.

Please accept all of the foregoing, understand and accept that emotional energy and money expended on such a lawsuit are better directed to pupil placement, private schools and the recall litigation.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2008 02:32PM by Thomas More.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: lookWhosTalking ()
Date: March 06, 2008 02:38PM

Obviously you are from Reston, who did not offer one bit or do anything to improve their own school and curriculum and expect other communities to suffer and make sacrifices to improve Reston's school, while the existing Reston residents kick back and relax

Hostility Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston car
> wash, but they did meet at the Reston Community
> Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by many
> to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly does, my
> Mom always used to say.
>
> By the time CAPS wastes a whole bunch of the
> school budget on their worthless suit, they will
> have no sympathizers in any communities but
> theirs. They will be pariahs, in fact. If there
> were a do-over, which there won't be, a lot more
> groups would be jumping onto the CAPS are Ugly
> bandwagon.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: fuzzyLogic ()
Date: March 06, 2008 02:40PM

Do you really think we will believe someone who has a vested interest in this? By your own admission your children are in SL and they will benefit by this RD

Thomas More Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The posts on this board saying lawsuit will fail
> are not lawyers.
>
> I am a lawyer (as was my namesake) and a suit
> against this RD has NO SHOT.
>
> If this case had 1 in 100 chance, I'd do it pro
> bono!
>
> While my kids have gone and go to SL and I
> supported a redistricting, I oppose the RD that
> the SB approved.
>
> The SL student body is first rate. It's a shame
> the administrators and instructional staff aren't
> as outstanding as the student body.
>
> I despise the duplicity that Stu, Janie and others
> engaged it to reach this result.
>
> Please accept all of the foregoing, understand and
> accept that emotional energy and money expended on
> such a lawsuit are better directed to pupil
> placement, private schools and the recall
> litigation.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: isThisTrue? ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:13PM

Heard that Chantilly and Madison are already closed for Pupil placements and that only Herndon and Oakton is accepting pupil placements from the RD areas. Is that true?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: F*** CAPS ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:21PM

Corrections Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> CAPS did not initiate and does not support any
> boycott of Family Fun Night at Fox Mill.

Ok, so you didn't advocate the FFN boycott but I can't help but notice that there's no mention of the forwarding and public posting of Rona's email to a few FME parents.

Typical of CAPS defenders/members, any criticism of them is because you either aren't as committed to your kids education as they are or your really a SL parent. Good luck with the lawsuit. I look forward to reading about it, I'm sure there'll be plenty of good quotes from delusional psychoparents.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:27PM

fuzzyLogic Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Do you really think we will believe someone who has a vested interest in this? By > your own admission your children are in SL and they will benefit by this RD

My youngest will leave SL before the RD has much, if any, impact there.

If anything, by locking IB in for 5 years, this RD will hurt my youngest.

Certainly, my opposition to the SL PTSA officers' and South Lakes Boundary Group's activities in support of Option 5 has done my child and me no favors.

So accept this advice if you chose or ignore it. All I can do is give you and CAPS fair warning.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2008 03:30PM by Thomas More.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: restonrules ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:29PM

to lookwhostalking
we never said our school was bad in the first place... We really do not think you are going to fix it.



lookWhosTalking Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Obviously you are from Reston, who did not offer
> one bit or do anything to improve their own school
> and curriculum and expect other communities to
> suffer and make sacrifices to improve Reston's
> school, while the existing Reston residents kick
> back and relax
>
> Hostility Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston car
> > wash, but they did meet at the Reston Community
> > Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by
> many
> > to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly does,
> my
> > Mom always used to say.
> >
> > By the time CAPS wastes a whole bunch of the
> > school budget on their worthless suit, they
> will
> > have no sympathizers in any communities but
> > theirs. They will be pariahs, in fact. If
> there
> > were a do-over, which there won't be, a lot
> more
> > groups would be jumping onto the CAPS are Ugly
> > bandwagon.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: numbers ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:42PM

Baffled Wrote:
. I think they should have adopted a
> measure on how to proceed with tied votes on
> something. Thoughts?



You'd think that they would have an odd number of people on the board ..... not just odd board members.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: LOL ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:46PM

numbers Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Baffled Wrote:
> . I think they should have adopted a
> > measure on how to proceed with tied votes on
> > something. Thoughts?
>
>
>
> You'd think that they would have an odd number of
> people on the board ..... not just odd board
> members.

good one :)

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Baffled ()
Date: March 06, 2008 03:56PM

numbers Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Baffled Wrote:
> . I think they should have adopted a
> > measure on how to proceed with tied votes on
> > something. Thoughts?
>
>
>
> You'd think that they would have an odd number of
> people on the board ..... not just odd board
> members.



Numbers--that's the thing with numbers..fcps deciding on a '2000' student body of a high school, the sb locking in IB for SL for 5 years, fcps coming up with 12 sbms and yet should be interesting with the actual enrollment number at SL and other high schools compared to what fcps say about their enrollment forecast for SL and other high schools. One thing I agree with your post though is certain sbms are very odd. Way too odd.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: LOL ()
Date: March 06, 2008 04:26PM

Baffled Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Baffled Wrote:
> > . I think they should have adopted a
> > > measure on how to proceed with tied votes on
> > > something. Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> > You'd think that they would have an odd number
> of
> > people on the board ..... not just odd board
> > members.
>
>
>
> Numbers--that's the thing with numbers..fcps
> deciding on a '2000' student body of a high
> school, the sb locking in IB for SL for 5 years,
> fcps coming up with 12 sbms and yet should be
> interesting with the actual enrollment number at
> SL and other high schools compared to what fcps
> say about their enrollment forecast for SL and
> other high schools. One thing I agree with your
> post though is certain sbms are very odd. Way too
> odd.


WOW WOW WOW - somethign else that opposing sides can agree on, what do you know?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: TMo is a Ho ()
Date: March 06, 2008 04:35PM

I finally figured out who Thomas More is!! Only JF would advise anti-RD folks to avoid South Lakes.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 04:52PM

Thomas More Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> dont_fight_between_yourselves Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The posts on this board saying lawsuit will fail
> are not lawyers.
>
> I am a lawyer (as was my namesake) and a suit
> against this RD has NO SHOT.
>
> If this case had 1 in 100 chance, I'd do it pro
> bono!
>
> While my kids have gone and go to SL and I
> supported a redistricting, I oppose the RD that
> the SB approved.
>
> The SL student body is first rate. It's a shame
> the administrators and instructional staff aren't
> as outstanding as the student body.
>
> I despise the duplicity that Stu, Janie and others
> engaged it to reach this result.
>
> Please accept all of the foregoing, understand and
> accept that emotional energy and money expended on
> such a lawsuit are better directed to pupil
> placement, private schools and the recall
> litigation.


Well, it's good that you are not the lawyer on this case. There are other good lawyers that disagree with you. Since we don't know who you are, we don't know if you are a good lawyer :>) (I don't think this lawsuit conflicts with the other areas you suggested we focus our energies.)

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: pissed off ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:04PM

Enoughaboutrace Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Enough with the racial crap. I'm white and I'm
> not rich. I was against the redistricting and I'm
> getting my kid ready to go to South Lakes. Ya,
> I'm not thrilled with it, but it's because I am
> mentally set on Oakton. I have a couple of years
> to get used to the idea. Those of you with an 8th
> grader I understand how upset you are. If a
> re-districting had to happen, it shouldn't be such
> a quick turn around and they should wait to make
> the current 7th graders be the first class. Keep
> up the BS racial crap and you're just making it
> worse.
>
> CAPS needs to change their slogan. I have to
> agree that the schools are the county schools not
> our schools. Let's be adults people.


You must be joking - who do you think pays for the county schools? Do you think there's a person named "county" that owns them? YOU pay for them you idiot!!

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Question ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:04PM

Hostility Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston car
> wash, but they did meet at the Reston Community
> Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by many
> to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly does, my
> Mom always used to say.


What's ugly about meeting at Lake Anne? It's a nice place. I love going there. What's your problem with Lake Anne?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Know something ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:08PM

Hostility Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Corrections Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CAPS did not initiate and does not support any
> > boycott of Family Fun Night at Fox Mill.
>
> Actually, I think they did before they didn't.
> The trial balloon didn't go over well, so they
> backed off. They will overplay their hand again
> soon.
>
> When will you people learn that CAPS gave you
> faulty information, stale and self-serving
> arguments, and a lot of dumb strategies (can you
> say yellow shirts?).


This has all been a learning experience. For most of us,it's the first time our SB has tried to shove a poorly planned and poorly executed RD down our throats. The folks who organized Caps are only regular citizens trying to do something good and helpful for their families and their communities. I applaud these volunteers, many whom have worked tirelessly to make a difference for us--and to have ALL our voices heard. There's nothing stale or self-serving about their efforts. What faulty data are you referring to? We've all gotten smarter along the way--and CAPS has recruited some smart people, too.

Caps NEVER supported a boycott to FFN. It's fine for you to discount Caps. Feel free to continue doing so. The organization wasn't expecting your support.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: HoSTUlity ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:15PM

SaraLeeVerity Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How do you know Hostility doesn't live in another
> district, say in Fox Mill or maybe Crossfield? You
> shouldn't make assumptions.


HoSTUlity, Someone who is fearful that a carwash is rumored for a Reston Gas Station. hmmmm, SL--someone past, present, future--yeah, a stretch, but not a big one. Perhaps you have some danish to offer this fuming sole.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: FM PTA member ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:26PM

F*** CAPS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Corrections Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CAPS did not initiate and does not support any
> > boycott of Family Fun Night at Fox Mill.
>
> Ok, so you didn't advocate the FFN boycott but I
> can't help but notice that there's no mention of
> the forwarding and public posting of Rona's email
> to a few FME parents.
>
> Typical of CAPS defenders/members, any criticism
> of them is because you either aren't as committed
> to your kids education as they are or your really
> a SL parent. Good luck with the lawsuit. I look
> forward to reading about it, I'm sure there'll be
> plenty of good quotes from delusional
> psychoparents.


What's wrong with forwarding Rona's email? I would think it was perfectly reasonable to forward so she could get more feedback. At the same time, she knows who the orginal 100 were, so it was clearly easy for her to separate the original surveys from the extras--and with the extras she could hear more from FM.

I received one of the orginal surveys and nowhere did it say not to forward AND nowhere did it say that she was only going to provide results to the FM community on the question of splitting the neighborhood (#3)--and NOT the other questions. At no time did she say that she was going to keep the results of question 1 and 2 a secret. Is it her right as the PTA president to keep this kind of data to herself? I think most PTAs around the USA would say NO. Rona is a good person, but she made a big mistake here.


Please get YOUR FACTS straight. You were wrong about FFN and you are wrong about Rona. Are you right about anything? Do you have any facts or accurate information at all or are you just a silly blowhard?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Lee Parent ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:28PM

Does anyone remember when Tina Hone recommended pulling $500k from the FCPS legal budget and giving it to South Lakes to help start an AP Program?

Well good ole Stu Gibson shot that idea down and went on to lecture her about how useful the legal team is and how the $3 million they spend on legal fees is money well spent.

That prompted someone to request via FOIA how much the FCPS legal team spent defending Stu in that senseless case involving his violation of that kid's privacy.

Guess what that legal fee was? $10,624.16. Those fiscally irresponsible SB members choose to fight that case and waste our school budget dollars on an unwinnable case.

Maybe a wiser and more prudent SB would have apologized to the parent and saved us some money. That would have been the honorable thing to do. This SB makes me sick.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: FM PTA member ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:34PM

restonrules Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> to lookwhostalking
> we never said our school was bad in the first
> place... We really do not think you are going to
> fix it.
>
>
>
> lookWhosTalking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obviously you are from Reston, who did not
> offer
> > one bit or do anything to improve their own
> school
> > and curriculum and expect other communities to
> > suffer and make sacrifices to improve Reston's
> > school, while the existing Reston residents
> kick
> > back and relax
> >
> > Hostility Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston
> car
> > > wash, but they did meet at the Reston
> Community
> > > Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by
> > many
> > > to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly
> does,
> > my
> > > Mom always used to say.
> > >
> > > By the time CAPS wastes a whole bunch of the
> > > school budget on their worthless suit, they
> > will
> > > have no sympathizers in any communities but
> > > theirs. They will be pariahs, in fact. If
> > there
> > > were a do-over, which there won't be, a lot
> > more
> > > groups would be jumping onto the CAPS are
> Ugly
> > > bandwagon.


Hostility, what are you talking about? You are wrong, wrong, wrong. Caps is getting stronger and increasing its members. But then I suspect you already know that. The more you sling mud, the more fearful I know you must be.

What's wrong with meeting at the Reston Community Center? There is no problem or issue with the town of Reston. I love Reston. Does SLPTA own every inch of Reston? I don't think so.

I think most people in this community are very grateful for all Caps' efforts. If there was a "do over" I think more folks would have joined and supported Caps earlier than they did. I think we ALL know who the pariahs are in this RD fight.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:53PM

TMo is a Ho Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I finally figured out who Thomas More is!! Only JF would advise anti-RD folks to > avoid South Lakes.

Good guess, try again. BTW, anyone would advise those who preferred AP to avoid SL, wouldn't you?

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: March 06, 2008 05:57PM

Lee Parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Does anyone remember when Tina Hone recommended pulling $500k from the FCPS legal > budget and giving it to South Lakes to help start an AP Program?
>
> Guess what that legal fee was? $10,624.16.

Tom Calley spent 20-25 hours on that case!? Seriously? Wow.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: ABCs ()
Date: March 06, 2008 06:59PM

I am grateful to revisit this site and see the ANTI RDs disappearing. You dont need to post here. Let the PROs take this over and hang themselves.

Keep your own thoughts and words to yourselves, CHANGE IS COMING. Just hang in and let it happen.

We stand together, we stand for our children. Let them wonder what we are doing. Perhaps they will come to understand how we have felt for months.

STAND FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: WATCHING PENNIES ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:14PM

IF STU GIBSON IS TRULY SORRY AS HE STATES, HE COULD AT LEAST WRITE A PERSONAL CHECK TO FCPS TO REFUND TAXPAYER MONEY.

DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD THINK WE SHOULD PICK UP THE TAB WHEN THE DEPT OF EDUCATION WAS TELLING STU FOR 5 MONTHS THAT HE NEEDED TO STOP WHAT HE WAS DOING? WHAT'S THE LIABILITY GOING TO BE IF THERE IS A LAWSUIT ON THIS? WILL FCPS PICK UP THE TAB ON THAT ONE, TOO?

KIDS WILL BE FEELING THE BUDGET CRUNCH NEXT YEAR, BUT REST ASSURED, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS NO ISSUE RACKING UP BILLS TO TAKE CARE OF ITS OWN.


Lee Parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Does anyone remember when Tina Hone recommended
> pulling $500k from the FCPS legal budget and
> giving it to South Lakes to help start an AP
> Program?
>
> Well good ole Stu Gibson shot that idea down and
> went on to lecture her about how useful the legal
> team is and how the $3 million they spend on legal
> fees is money well spent.
>
> That prompted someone to request via FOIA how much
> the FCPS legal team spent defending Stu in that
> senseless case involving his violation of that
> kid's privacy.
>
> Guess what that legal fee was? $10,624.16. Those
> fiscally irresponsible SB members choose to fight
> that case and waste our school budget dollars on
> an unwinnable case.
>
> Maybe a wiser and more prudent SB would have
> apologized to the parent and saved us some money.
> That would have been the honorable thing to do.
> This SB makes me sick.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:50PM

ManBearPig Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I would be willing to bet a lot that the people
> supporting the CAPS lawsuit did not support Al
> Gore suing to change the results of the 2000
> election. What a bunch of hypocrites. Waaaaa!
> We don't like the results, so we'll suuuueeee!

Yes, it's the American way and has worked for millions.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:55PM

>>>Hostility Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I never thought CAPS was planning a Reston car
> wash, but they did meet at the Reston Community
> Center at Lake Anne, which was interpreted by many
> to be hostile and ugly. Ugly is as ugly does, my
> Mom always used to say. <<<

Forest Gump! Right here in our midst! And just as dumb. So much for that great IB education at South Lakes.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: RD PARENT ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:58PM

WITH EVERYTHING THAT STU GIBSON HAS DONE TO HURT THE FCPS SYSTEM HE NEEDS TO BE RECALLED NOW OR HE SHOULD RESIGN.



WATCHING PENNIES Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> IF STU GIBSON IS TRULY SORRY AS HE STATES, HE
> COULD AT LEAST WRITE A PERSONAL CHECK TO FCPS TO
> REFUND TAXPAYER MONEY.
>
> DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD THINK WE SHOULD PICK UP THE
> TAB WHEN THE DEPT OF EDUCATION WAS TELLING STU FOR
> 5 MONTHS THAT HE NEEDED TO STOP WHAT HE WAS DOING?
> WHAT'S THE LIABILITY GOING TO BE IF THERE IS A
> LAWSUIT ON THIS? WILL FCPS PICK UP THE TAB ON
> THAT ONE, TOO?
>
> KIDS WILL BE FEELING THE BUDGET CRUNCH NEXT YEAR,
> BUT REST ASSURED, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS NO ISSUE
> RACKING UP BILLS TO TAKE CARE OF ITS OWN.
>
>
> Lee Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Does anyone remember when Tina Hone recommended
> > pulling $500k from the FCPS legal budget and
> > giving it to South Lakes to help start an AP
> > Program?
> >
> > Well good ole Stu Gibson shot that idea down
> and
> > went on to lecture her about how useful the
> legal
> > team is and how the $3 million they spend on
> legal
> > fees is money well spent.
> >
> > That prompted someone to request via FOIA how
> much
> > the FCPS legal team spent defending Stu in that
> > senseless case involving his violation of that
> > kid's privacy.
> >
> > Guess what that legal fee was? $10,624.16.
> Those
> > fiscally irresponsible SB members choose to
> fight
> > that case and waste our school budget dollars
> on
> > an unwinnable case.
> >
> > Maybe a wiser and more prudent SB would have
> > apologized to the parent and saved us some
> money.
> > That would have been the honorable thing to do.
>
> > This SB makes me sick.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 06, 2008 07:58PM

ABCs Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am grateful to revisit this site and see the
> ANTI RDs disappearing. You dont need to post
> here. Let the PROs take this over and hang
> themselves.
>
> Keep your own thoughts and words to yourselves,
> CHANGE IS COMING. Just hang in and let it happen.
>
>
> We stand together, we stand for our children. Let
> them wonder what we are doing. Perhaps they will
> come to understand how we have felt for months.
>
> STAND FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING

Trust me when I say that no one at South Lakes is wondering what the CAPS people are doing. They are so off in LaLa Land that they think everything will be just hunky Dory and they will get all the students that they need. They actually believe that the redistricted areas will send their children to South Lakes. They think that they 'won' and are getting just want they want! Pretty funny, huh? Their grasp on reality is not a strong one.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: get real ()
Date: March 06, 2008 08:10PM

Know something Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> get real Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If this lawsuit is heard, it won't be what you
> > think. The School Board will not be lined up
> and
> > compelled to listen to hundreds of tirades from
> > neurotic mommies and daddies. That's not what
> > courtrooms are for.
> >
> > It will be the school boards lawyers and your
> > lawyers....and then the dismissal. Not even
> worth
> > taking the day off to attend.
>
>
> You're showing your ignorance here. Of course,
> it's going to be lawyer to lawyer. Did you really
> think that people in FM, FL and MI think they're
> going to be able to cross examine the SB? Get
> real. But, it's quite likekly that certain
> members of the SB will be required to testify.
> Dismissal? Maybe or maybe not.


I was responding to a post stating (something to the effect) that this lawsuit will force the School Board to listen to "us"....something that they refused to do during the hearings.

I was merely informing that poster and, I'm sure, many like-minded lawsuit fans that they will be very disappointed when they get to the courtroom.

I should have quoted the post (I'm too lazy to go looking for it).

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: lopter ()
Date: March 06, 2008 08:55PM

A 17-year-old student was stabbed outside of Mount Vernon High School, 8515 Old Mount Vernon Road, on Wednesday, March 5 at 2:15 p.m. The victim was walking home when a car pulled along next to him and the occupants displayed gang signs. One passenger got out of the car and allegedly stabbed the victim in the arm. The suspect got back into the car with two others and fled. The victim was taken by witnesses to Inova Mount Vernon Hospital with non life-threatening injuries and later transferred to Inova Fairfax Hospital.

Police responded to the hospital to question the victim and were able to identify three suspects involved. Two 17-year-old males were arrested near one of their homes later that evening. They were both served with detention orders for malicious wounding and gang participation. One of the juveniles was also served with outstanding petitions for gang participation, violation of parole and throwing a missile at an occupied vehicle. Both suspects were taken to the Fairfax County Juvenile Detention Center. Detectives obtained warrants for malicious wounding and gang participation for Jose Mejia-Pineda, 18. He was arrested a short time later and taken to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center. Mejia-Pineda resides at 4612 Steadman Place in Alexandria.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: FACTS ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:31PM

This is not the first time that FCPS has posted students scholastic records.

See below statement from FCPS in a letter to a Fairfax County residence.

FCPS REQUIRES THE CONSENT OF A PARENT OR OF AN ADULT STUDENT PRIOR TO RELEASE OF INFORMATION REGARDING ANY STUDENT'S SCHOLASTIC RECORD TO INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF FCPS UNLESS THE DISCLOSURE IS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY LAW.

FCPS POLICY DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE POSTING OF STUDENT RECORD INFORMATION ON ITS WEB SITES UNLESS THESE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.

FCPS HAS CORRECTED ANY SUCH POSTING OF WHICH IT IS AWARE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE IN IGNORANCE OF THIS POLICY.


RD PARENT Wrote:
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> WITH EVERYTHING THAT STU GIBSON HAS DONE TO HURT
> THE FCPS SYSTEM HE NEEDS TO BE RECALLED NOW OR HE
> SHOULD RESIGN.
>
>
>
> WATCHING PENNIES Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IF STU GIBSON IS TRULY SORRY AS HE STATES, HE
> > COULD AT LEAST WRITE A PERSONAL CHECK TO FCPS
> TO
> > REFUND TAXPAYER MONEY.
> >
> > DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD THINK WE SHOULD PICK UP
> THE
> > TAB WHEN THE DEPT OF EDUCATION WAS TELLING STU
> FOR
> > 5 MONTHS THAT HE NEEDED TO STOP WHAT HE WAS
> DOING?
> > WHAT'S THE LIABILITY GOING TO BE IF THERE IS A
> > LAWSUIT ON THIS? WILL FCPS PICK UP THE TAB ON
> > THAT ONE, TOO?
> >
> > KIDS WILL BE FEELING THE BUDGET CRUNCH NEXT
> YEAR,
> > BUT REST ASSURED, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS NO ISSUE
> > RACKING UP BILLS TO TAKE CARE OF ITS OWN.
> >
> >
> > Lee Parent Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Does anyone remember when Tina Hone
> recommended
> > > pulling $500k from the FCPS legal budget and
> > > giving it to South Lakes to help start an AP
> > > Program?
> > >
> > > Well good ole Stu Gibson shot that idea down
> > and
> > > went on to lecture her about how useful the
> > legal
> > > team is and how the $3 million they spend on
> > legal
> > > fees is money well spent.
> > >
> > > That prompted someone to request via FOIA how
> > much
> > > the FCPS legal team spent defending Stu in
> that
> > > senseless case involving his violation of
> that
> > > kid's privacy.
> > >
> > > Guess what that legal fee was? $10,624.16.
> > Those
> > > fiscally irresponsible SB members choose to
> > fight
> > > that case and waste our school budget dollars
> > on
> > > an unwinnable case.
> > >
> > > Maybe a wiser and more prudent SB would have
> > > apologized to the parent and saved us some
> > money.
> > > That would have been the honorable thing to
> do.
> >
> > > This SB makes me sick.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: F*** CAPS ()
Date: March 06, 2008 09:42PM

FM PTA member Wrote:
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>
> What's wrong with forwarding Rona's email? I
> would think it was perfectly reasonable to forward
> so she could get more feedback. At the same time,
> she knows who the orginal 100 were, so it was
> clearly easy for her to separate the original
> surveys from the extras--and with the extras she
> could hear more from FM.
>
> I received one of the orginal surveys and nowhere
> did it say not to forward AND nowhere did it say
> that she was only going to provide results to the
> FM community on the question of splitting the
> neighborhood (#3)--and NOT the other questions.
> At no time did she say that she was going to keep
> the results of question 1 and 2 a secret. Is it
> her right as the PTA president to keep this kind
> of data to herself? I think most PTAs around the
> USA would say NO. Rona is a good person, but she
> made a big mistake here.
>
>
> Please get YOUR FACTS straight. You were wrong
> about FFN and you are wrong about Rona. Are you
> right about anything? Do you have any facts or
> accurate information at all or are you just a
> silly blowhard?


Whats wrong with forwarding Rona's email? You let a special interest outside our community hijack our school, that's whats wrong with it. Your probably the same person who sent that widely circulated email condeming Rona for not disclosing the purpose of the survey.

I didn't get the survey, I got an email from FxCAPS that I'm sure everyone else reading this blog got asking me to respond and copy FxCAPS for "verification." If you feel that the FM PTA business is also the business of anyone other than FMES parents, students, faculty and staff then you really should resign immediately.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: word ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:04PM

It seems that Stu would like to mend some fences... h's going to be in the dunking tank at the car wash on Sat!

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:43PM

numbers Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Baffled Wrote:
> . I think they should have adopted a
> > measure on how to proceed with tied votes on
> > something. Thoughts?
>
>
>
> You'd think that they would have an odd number of
> people on the board ..... not just odd board
> members.

Why? the rule is a motion needs a majority to pass. It seems simple enough to me. Unless a majority on the board want it, it doesn't get passed. Seems like a good rule.

Had this not been the rule, the vote would have been whatever it needed to be so as not to pass.

Re: high school redistricting
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: March 06, 2008 10:46PM

word Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It seems that Stu would like to mend some
> fences... h's going to be in the dunking tank at
> the car wash on Sat!

Hahahaha.........I've seen no evidence that Stu has any desire to mend fences with anyone. He cares deeply about the President of South Lakes PTSA, but other than her, I haven't heard him say anything positive about anyone involved in this redistricting. Other than her, he seems to be pretty pissed at everyone and intends to stay that way.

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