taxpayer-ACLU suit pro-IB Wrote:
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> leave_us_alone Wrote:
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> > Forum Reader Wrote:
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> > > SLVerity Wrote:
> > > > ... the idea that it
> > > > was purposefully placed in only low-scoring
> > > > schools, which is what Neen said, is false.
>
> > > >
> > > > Can we agree on that?
> > >
> > > ---
> > > NO.
> > >
> > > Neen wrote, "... IB was put into schools to
> > stop
> > > White Flight. The director of instruction
> said
> > so
> > > at the time. That's why it was put in the
> > schools
> > > with the highest percentages of minority
> > students.
> > > They were trying to convince middle and upper
> > > income parents that their children would have
> > > their own 'special' program, separate from
> the
> > > general populations of those schools. They
> also
> > > hoped that it would increase the populations
> at
> > > these schools by selling IB in the AP schools
> > so
> > > that students would pupil place into these
> > schools
> > > that were losing population. Yes, IB is WAY
> > more
> > > expensive than AP."
> > >
> > > Read again what I posted. What Neen posted
> was
> > > correct - that is how IB was initially
> > established
> > > in FCPS. The train was rolling merrily along,
> > > Stuart and Mt Vernon, then Marshall, then
> > Edison.
> > > Two things happened: 1) People began noticing
> > only
> > > low-testing schools were getting IB AND 2)
> FCPS
> > > staff members who love IB wanted to place it
> in
> > > every FCPS high school. The plan appeared to
> be
> > to
> > > add two additional high schools per year;
> huge
> > > Robinson got IB the same time as Edison. Next
> > to
> > > be added to the train were South Lakes and
> > > Woodson, then Annandale and Lee.
> > >
> > > Woodson derailed the entire process and IB
> > never
> > > got to the last two "low testing" schools of
> > the
> > > time, Falls Church and West Potomac - or to
> any
> > > other FCPS high school.
> > >
> > > Neen is also correct that IB is inarguably
> and
> > > considerably more expensive than AP.
> > >
> > > None of this is meant in any way to imply IB
> > > CAUSES schools to BECOME "low testing." Quite
> > the
> > > opposite - the FCPS IB schools already had
> low
> > > test scores when they were given IB, except
> at
> > > huge Robinson. The only FCPS IB school with
> > "high
> > > testing" students, Woodson, got rid of IB as
> > soon
> > > as that community saw what was happening.
> >
> >
> > After reading all this, the talk of let new
> > students come then we will decide AP or IB is
> just
> > a hogwash if you ask me. I do not think SL has
> > any intention of getting rid of IB program.
>
> It is all hogwash. When a school district decides
> to get rid of IB all he11 can break out. Nobody
> but Woodson cared about getting rid of AP. The
> thing is in FCPS IB is offered at a lot of
> schools.
>
>
http://www.aclupa.org/downloads/ComplaintIB.pdf
>
> People tried to get rid of it in a small district
> outside Pittsburgh and IB supporters ran to the
> ACLU since some bought homes for IB and some local
> VIP's had talked about IB being
> non-Judeo-Christian etc.
>
> All that when the district might have had less
> than 15 diploma candidates per grade . Wonder who
> pays the test fees there? Well it is interesting
> to read the ACLU complaint since it seems IBO
> gives a school leeway so what is SL's scheduling
> problem? If a significant number of new South
> Lakians are from an area that had AP access with
> their assigned neighborhood school via FCPS free
> transportation, then they too could go to the
> ACLU.
>
> They could also emphasis COSTS to taxpayers and
> potential loss of college credits.
The issue in that district was that the school board made a decision without proper procedures being followed, and against the majority wishes. If you follow reports on it (google USC and ACLU or IB) you will see what the school board did. The ACLU was brought in due to how the school board handled things, not because of IB itself.