Were any Fairfax Underground folks inconvenienced by Obama's trip to Fairfax this afternoon?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/13/politics/main6862495.shtml?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FromTheRoadCBSNews+%28From+The+Road%3A+CBSNews.com%29

Hope this link works.

Not in a traffic kind of way, but I did notice the air in Fairfax being unusually heavy with a feeling of oppression and Socialism wafting in the breeze.

And the stench of Gerry Connolly:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/13/obama.economy/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Ah, the waft of socialism. Just in time. Saw this weekend Fidel Castro finally announced it's not working for them. Next?????

I didn't know anything about it until I read this post. Where was
this "Town Hall"? Was it open to the public or held in a gated community
with only Dems with connections are invited?

SO TRUE Wrote:
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> Ah, the waft of socialism. Just in time. Saw this
> weekend Fidel Castro finally announced it's not
> working for them. Next?????


Exactly! Speaking of Castro I read that Cuba was laying off 1/2 million government employees. Isn't that like the whole country? Socialism.....is Communism in the making

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C ommune with
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A bolish
L iberty and it is
I ncapable of
S ustaining the
M oral of the people without possibility of WAR



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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2013 05:39PM by chuckhoffmann.

itchy Wrote:
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> SO TRUE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ah, the waft of socialism. Just in time. Saw
> this
> > weekend Fidel Castro finally announced it's not
> > working for them. Next?????
>
>
> Exactly! Speaking of Castro I read that Cuba was
> laying off 1/2 million government employees.
> Isn't that like the whole country? Socialism.....
>
> S ocially
> O pressed
> C ommune with
> I deals that
> A bolish
> L iberty and it is
> I ncapable of
> S ustaining the
> M oral of the people without possibility of WAR



Socialism is not the same thing as Communism. I trust you can research and learn the difference.

eesh Wrote:
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> Socialism is not the same thing as Communism. I
> trust you can research and learn the difference.


Communism is just an extreme form of Socialism

itchy Wrote:
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> Communism is just an extreme form of Socialism

+1

Socialism....the gate way drug. Brought to you by hope and change.

Obama seems so feckless, so impotent....



I almost wish it had been Hillary Clinton who had won the Democratic nomination instead. Disappointment with Obama was inevitable.

eesh Wrote:
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> Socialism is not the same thing as Communism. I
> trust you can research and learn the difference.

Doesn't matter. Obama's failures have exacerbated the economy, and I wish he'd stay at the WH instead of coming out here to pollute our fine air with his nasty rhetoric.

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eesh Wrote:
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> itchy Wrote:
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> > SO TRUE Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ah, the waft of socialism. Just in time. Saw
> > this
> > > weekend Fidel Castro finally announced it's
> not
> > > working for them. Next?????
> >
> >
> > Exactly! Speaking of Castro I read that Cuba
> was
> > laying off 1/2 million government employees.
> > Isn't that like the whole country?
> Socialism.....
> >
> > S ocially
> > O pressed
> > C ommune with
> > I deals that
> > A bolish
> > L iberty and it is
> > I ncapable of
> > S ustaining the
> > M oral of the people without possibility of WAR
>
>
>
> Socialism is not the same thing as Communism. I
> trust you can research and learn the difference.


And since Cuba IS a socialist state, what, exactly, is your point?

itchy Wrote:
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> Exactly! Speaking of Castro I read that Cuba was
> laying off 1/2 million government employees.

Article I just googled said one million....20% of the work force. WOW, hope we don't get our next wave of illegal immigrants....

But really that's O.K. it's the jobs we don't want, right???

Wrong! They are the jobs we REFUSE to do.




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and get your stoopid @$$#$ THE FUCK OFF MY INTERNETZ!"

- 'philscamms' (the YT Watchdog) ; internet & YouTube® extraordinaire.

Not exactly "refuse to do." It's more like now you can't send your teenager to work at the McDonalds on Richmond Highway because they'd be surrounded by hostile people who barely speak English. The quality of the work environment has become so bad that most middle class American teens cannot do those jobs anymore. Less than 20 years ago, even upper middle class suburban teens were able to take those jobs and their parents felt like they were safe while at work. Not anymore.

would work Wrote:
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> Not exactly "refuse to do." It's more like now
> you can't send your teenager to work at the
> McDonalds on Richmond Highway because they'd be
> surrounded by hostile people who barely speak
> English. The quality of the work environment
> has become so bad that most middle class American
> teens cannot do those jobs anymore.

My kids have tried and also people I know who were just looking for additional
NEEDED part time second income. You cannot work as a teller in Norther Virginia if you don't speak spanish. BAC and others say they hire from the community...they forgot there are still some americans around.

eesh Wrote:
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> itchy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > SO TRUE Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ah, the waft of socialism. Just in time. Saw
> > this
> > > weekend Fidel Castro finally announced it's
> not
> > > working for them. Next?????
> >
> >
> > Exactly! Speaking of Castro I read that Cuba
> was
> > laying off 1/2 million government employees.
> > Isn't that like the whole country?
> Socialism.....
> >
> > S ocially
> > O pressed
> > C ommune with
> > I deals that
> > A bolish
> > L iberty and it is
> > I ncapable of
> > S ustaining the
> > M oral of the people without possibility of WAR
>
>
>
> Socialism is not the same thing as Communism. I
> trust you can research and learn the difference.

Often times, though, the lines between the two do become blurry.

The best examples of the two are the NAZIs vs. the Soviets. The former were Socialists, while the latter were Communists. They both hated each other as well.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).



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Btw, I found it ironic that Obama held his backyard brouhaha at what appeared to be a rather affluent residence, yet he was speaking about helping the middle class.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Btw, I found it ironic that Obama held his
> backyard brouhaha at what appeared to be a rather
> affluent residence, yet he was speaking about
> helping the middle class.

Doubt there is anybody hurting in Mantua. But you never know.

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Wrong! They are the jobs we REFUSE to do.

Sarcasm. I hope.

k Wrote:
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> And since Cuba IS a socialist state, what,
> exactly, is your point?


Actually they were a socialist state turned totalitarian communist state in 1959. My point was it (socialism, communism) didn't work. One could argue that it may be working well for N. Korea and China right now, but eventually the people will grow tired of tyranny and grow balls enough to revolt and fuck things up.

just googled Wrote:
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> itchy Wrote:
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> > Exactly! Speaking of Castro I read that Cuba
> was
> > laying off 1/2 million government employees.
>
> Article I just googled said one million....20% of
> the work force. WOW, hope we don't get our next
> wave of illegal immigrants....

one man's illegal immigrants are another man's "political refugees"

G Wrote:
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one man's illegal immigrants are another man's
"political refugees"


Vince, you're back!

G Wrote:
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> one man's illegal immigrants are another man's
> "political refugees"


You got that right. I'm just glad there's a little more water to cross between us and it's hurricane season.

ah..Gerry C was there Wrote:
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> And the stench of Gerry Connolly:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/13/obama.economy/index.htmleref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

The President goes to a PRIVATE home in MANTUA to tell the nation that we can't afford to not raise taxes?

Isn't Mantua the home of Gerry Connolly?

Wasn't Gerry Connolly standing next to him?

Someone should post a screen capture of that CNN page, because right next to Obama pushing for cancelling the tax cuts is the headline:

"Connolly Says Extend Tax Cuts for Now"

WE CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP. No one would believe it.

Actually it says:

"NEW: Connolly says all tax cuts should be extended for now"

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/13/obama.economy/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

The presence of Gerry Connolly at the "middle class" backyard townhall in Mantua was curiously kept low profile.

Obama is not a "people's person." He is a person for the political Machiavellis who work behind the scenes. As much as people LOVE to hate on George W Bush, he connected to regular Americans far more than Obama can. Obama comes off as more pampered/privileged. You could never see him out driving a truck or doing manual labor.

eliza Wrote:
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> As much as people LOVE to hate on George W Bush, he connected to regular Americans far more than Obama can. Obama comes off as more pampered/privileged. You could never see him out driving a truck or doing manual labor.

Who the hell strives to become one of these "regular Americans"? Like you want to grow up in a world where you can use your poor communication skills and barely adequate high school education to shovel dirt and dig ditches all day for substandard wages? "Regular Americans" like that shouldn't be representing this country at all. Just look what that Joe The Plumber dumbass did for the McCain campaign.

Correct me if Im wrong, hasnt Obama been a POLITICIAN of one sort or another all his life? Maybe somebody like Joe the plumber might be a good change. I wish they would bring back the commercials that showed firemen running congress, pretty funny but with some truth

Who says someone who knows how to work with their hands has poor communication skills? The so-called "intellectuals" here who cannot do any of their house maintenance, but must pay the plumber/mower/housecleaner, etc. are really unable to survive outside of their little narrow-minded bubble.

It is a false notion that everyone with practical skills has no education.

lyle Wrote:
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> It is a false notion that everyone with practical
> skills has no education.

'Connecting with regular Americans'... nowadays that means dumbing things down to "you betcha's", "refudiate", and "socialism"... ignorant scare tactics aimed at a bunch of misinformed dopes whose worldview extends no further then their backyard.

lyle Wrote:
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> Who says someone who knows how to work with their
> hands has poor communication skills? The
> so-called "intellectuals" here who cannot do any
> of their house maintenance, but must pay the
> plumber/mower/housecleaner, etc. are really unable
> to survive outside of their little narrow-minded
> bubble.
>
> It is a false notion that everyone with practical
> skills has no education.


+1 lyle

For those of you who think that hard work, manual labor and communiction skills are mutually exclusive I'd suggest you try expanding your realm a little. Try reading Studs Terkel or Eric Hoffer.

I recall reading about a small college president who spent a couple of weeks every year working on a trash truck, just to keep himself grounded. Remember..."ignorance plus ego equals arrogance" and arrogance is not in short supply.

I guess the "middle class" was redefined yesterday. This "middle class" house that Obama visited was purchased in 1997 for $323K and is currently, even after the housing downturn, assessed at more than $712K.

I'd love to see the press run with the explanation of how having almost $400K in equity still qualifies as middle class. Or if there isn't ~$400K in equity remaining, the Republicans are to blame.

http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/Forms/Datalets.aspx?mode=valuesall&taxyear=2011&ownseq=1&roll=REAL&jur=&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent=138

What street in Mantua/Fairfax was that house on? The link to the Fairfax County property tax records had no information filled in.

Obama is a career front man/poster boy for the behind-the-scenes folks.

3123 BARBARA LN

Meeper, the world does not revolve around northern Virginia/DC values. I know this must come as a shock to you, but it's true.

Believe it or not, some people with college educations know how to mow their lawn (or have their teens do the job), change the oil in the car, and do basic plumbing/repair work in the house. And we do it because we don't hold ourselves above such tasks.

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> Meeper, the world does not revolve around northern Virginia/DC values.

Nor does it revolve around dummies who like Glenn Beck or some shithead teabagger.

Pretty far from it, actually.

We should thank god for that.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> lyle Wrote:
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> >
> > It is a false notion that everyone with
> practical
> > skills has no education.
>
> 'Connecting with regular Americans'... nowadays
> that means dumbing things down to "you betcha's",
> "refudiate", and "socialism"... ignorant scare
> tactics aimed at a bunch of misinformed dopes
> whose worldview extends no further then their
> backyard.

"dopes whose worldview extends no further then their backyard." ~ this describes some (but not all) people here. If you think the rest of the USA is inferior to Fairfax County, YOU have the limited worldview.

Talk about being a dope....

Hold the phone Wrote:
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> WE CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP. No one would believe
> it.

Whoa. Obama comes to Mantua to support Connolly. Obama says we can't extend tax cuts. Connolly says he changed his view and now supports extending tax cuts for one year so he can be reelected. They do this while standing next to each other smiling.

And you say that's not believable? What part?

Thank god it wasn't Glenn Beck and his religious Mormon freaks holding a town meeting. I've had enough of them riding around on their bicycles, ringing my doorbell and pushing their Mormon-ness.

So was this little get-together to benefit ol' Gerry for November?

When Did Gerry start meeting taxes he did not like?

itchy Wrote:
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> k Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > And since Cuba IS a socialist state, what,
> > exactly, is your point?
>
>
> Actually they were a socialist state turned
> totalitarian communist state in 1959. My point
> was it (socialism, communism) didn't work. One
> could argue that it may be working well for N.
> Korea and China right now, but eventually the
> people will grow tired of tyranny and grow balls
> enough to revolt and fuck things up.

According to their constitution, they are a socialist state. By their own words. But that response above was to eesh anyway.

I live in Mantua, I think it's a pretty representative neighborhood of the county. Mostly government workers really and yes, there are plenty of houses that are practically falling down in the neighborhood. Just drive up and down Barkley. I drove home to pick up lunch yesterday afternoon, there were many police officers but was not delayed or inconvenienced in any way

eliza Wrote:
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>
> Obama is not a "people's person." He is a person
> for the political Machiavellis who work behind the
> scenes. As much as people LOVE to hate on George
> W Bush, he connected to regular Americans far more
> than Obama can. Obama comes off as more
> pampered/privileged. You could never see him out
> driving a truck or doing manual labor.

+1

One only needs to look back to the damage down by Kerry's wind surfing photo to see how elitism can hurt a politico.

Funny, Obama's little backyard shindig actually made our shop late for a delivery...

Could cost us the client. Ironic.