nufan Wrote:
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> Hate it for the Cville players but the coaches got
> what they deserved. Sitting home for the playoffs.
> No excuses by not beating WF. Had chances against
> Chantilly. Coaches doomed the season. See what
> happens next year....


Coach Poythress, please start using your real name on this site.

Madison v Oscar Smith for the title! Book it!

nufan Wrote:
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> C’Ville has a Qb. He is freshman and played in
> one varsity game against Oakton. Can sling it
> pretty good.


He is not ready for varsity, tiny. Very avg arm. Good luck with that.

First of all, I like LB and ROBO. I live on the line and know a lot of kids. I have a distain for LB due to the big mouth here and I think I know which asst it was that was doing it. Also, if you have hung around with Doc he is awfully cocky for a HS coach with no real resume to speak of. That is the best talent at LB in about ten years. At least the last staff that had it last knew how to use it although I hated their total sell out to a spread that is easy enough to contain.

Maybe it is me but ROBO is done. They won the Braddock Road Bragging Bowl. The O is predictable. 90% is four runs. They have no passing.

My last thought: Both D coaching staffs have to go.

-LB...ROBO RUNS, duh. They are bigger. You take away their ground and they stink. Their are ways to do this if you are smaller. My God you let them bend you over and do you TWICE. I feel for the kids because yes ROBO will run but they were not coached up to fight it. You can go six up front but make it work with imagination and movement.

-ROBO...LB can throw, duh. They shoot both sides long which you could not stop in two games. Next is the flats behind the shoot. I saw some changes with a three man line to drop an additional back but the three were so big and slow they were no threat until you blitzed a fast guy behind it; that worked sometimes. Just go 3-5-3 with 1 or 2 DEEP safeties. Let them come up on those passes. You had them 15 yds back to start and they were burnt by ten yards over and over both game. In the 3-5 have the outside D backs read the back. If he comes your way cover; If not blitz.

Just me two cents...

NuFan has been here for years. Go back and check. I think Coach P would bash LB if anybody. Not CV. Paranoia?

Don’t think he panned out. Young!!

Yes he’s tiny and thin. He’s a freshman. He will grow..Hopefully. Shields was decent. Could have done with a better line. He fell apart against the better teams. Chantilly and Westfield zero Td passes. Madison one 5 yard TD pass.

nufan Wrote:
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> Yes he’s tiny and thin. He’s a freshman. He
> will grow..Hopefully. Shields was decent. Could
> have done with a better line. He fell apart
> against the better teams. Chantilly and Westfield
> zero Td passes. Madison one 5 yard TD pass.

Honest assessment is the coaching was disaster. Oline was not great but it was ok. Excellent RB, excellent group of WR, but the game plan was practically sandlot football. No one did less with more.

How much will he grows no one knows but he did not demonstrate superior arm talent for his age group (very avg arm talent and that is something you can only develop so much) if he is going to be Varsity QB1 next year why didn’t they prep him like Westfield did with their Frosh QB and move him up to JV?

He did play Jv as well. And the whole second half of varsity against Oakton. Maybe talking about a different player cuz he has a decent arm.

Same kid. Resto. Decent = avg. tomato-tomatoe

Btw it’s Oakton, they stink. SYA 155lb should play them 2nd half

Any predictions for C and D region finals?

Regional finals Wrote:
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> Any predictions for C and D region finals?


And if someone wants to do a preview of each team too? Would be nice if someone did

My thoughts on the up coming game.

Chantilly v Madison - These are 2 very good defenses and not much offense.
Chantilly doesn't have a QB and will have a hard time scoring against that Madison defense. Madison is very fundamentally sound and will not beat themselves. This will obviously be a low scoring game. Madison 10-0.

Robinson v South County - SC is the best team in the state until someone shows otherwise. They can score lots of points and they have a great defense. Robinson is a run first team. When they get behind against SC, and they will, the QB does not throw well enough to get them back in the game. SC 38-21

Spreads for the region championships
Region A: Oscar Smith(-28) vs. Dale
Smiths first test of the year but Dale is only a upper mid tier team Smith smokes Dale. Will the weak schedule haunt smith if they win? Probably

Region B: Patriot @ Massaponax(-30)
Patriot with the upset over Garfield but Ponax rolled battlefield who gave Patriot trouble. If Ponax continues to roll it will get ugly for Patriot fast

Region C: Robinson @ South County(-17)
Rematch of two rival in district teams that don’t like each other. South county won last time but I could see Robinson giving them some trouble upset of the week?

Region D: Chantilly @ Madison(-3) Game of the Week
Another rematch these two teams really do not like each other. Was very close last time it will come down to who makes the better adjustments from last game to turn the tide either way will be a defensive battle of the two best defenses in the state. (Sorry smith fans but you haven’t played anyone good yet!)

Yorktown crushes tc look like they couldve given maddison a better game

1. Freedom - South Riding @ Stone Bridge (-28)
- Stone Bridge won 74-6. Yes, you read that correctly, 74-6! They were up 62-0 at halftime.

2. Patriot @ Gar-Field (-3)
- Patriot pulled off the upset, 13-7. I told you guys I don't know much about these PWC schools!

3. Chantilly (-7) @ South Lakes
- Chantilly won 7-0. Nailed this one! SL came in cold with the 2 week pause in the program, add to that a very stout Chantilly defense and what you get is shutout.

4. Lake Braddock @ Robinson (-3)
- Robinson dominated Lake Braddock, 58-35.

5. Wakefield @ Madison (-28)
- Madison won, but did not cover, 28-7. They took their foots off the gas in the second half. Could've made it ugly if they wanted to do so. Stone Bridge would've.

6. West Springfield @ South County (-20)
- South County won and covered, 47-24. WS was up 17-0 I beleieve, or something similar to that, and then SoCo turned it up. 22 straight wins for the Stallions.


"PLUS ONE" SPREADS:


1. Annandale @ McLean (-6)
- Annandale won 41-14. Totally missed this one. McLean must've mentally checked out.

2. Edison @ Oakton (-3)
- Edison won 24-14. Another one I missed.

3. Falls Church @ Westfield (-20)
- Westfield won comfortably, and covered. 45-7 final. Was 35-0 mid second quarter.

4. Herndon @ Hayfield (-7)
- Hayfield won and covered, 34-20.

5. Lee @ Woodson (-14)
- Woodson blows out Lee, 54-12.

6. Marshall @ Mount Vernon (-10)
- MV won and covered, 35-20.

7. Stuart @ Centreville (-10)
- Game cancelled due to a positive Covid test in the JEB program.

8. T.C. Williams (-7) @ Yorktown
- Another one I missed. Yorktown won, 24-15.

9. Washington-Lee @ Fairfax (-3)
- Nailed this one as well! Fairfax won 34-31, in OT.

10. West Potomac (-8) @ Langley
- West Potomac won 28-21, failing to cover by 1 point.

With the condensed playoffs, we get less local games. So, for the rest of the year I’m going to try my hand at some more non-local spreads.


1. Briar Woods @ Stone Bridge (-27)
- SB won the first time around, 56-29. I’m sure Mickey is pissed they gave up that many points and will be out for blood. Seems SB is on a head on collusion to represent the North in the Class 5 State Championship.

2. Broad Run @ Tuscarora (-14)
- It's criminal these teams dropped down to Class 4. They are better than a lot of the Class 5 teams.

3. Chantilly @ Madison (-6)
- *Local game of the week.* Madison won the first match-up between the two, 10-3. It’ll definitely be a defensive game. Madison is similar to Robinson in the sense that they love to run the ball down your throat. Chantilly is going to need offense in this one. 7 points against a SL team who had a 2 week pause prior to the game? Unacceptable. I think Madison manages to score enough points to pull out the win.

4. Maury (-10) @ Deep Creek
- Remember Maury? Beat SB in the state championship in 2019. I see they’re still relevant.

5. Manchester @ Highland Springs (-7)
- *Out of town game of the week.* Not your typically dominant HS team this year. Manchester is also moving back up to Class 6 next year. Highland Springs is on upset alert.

6. Patriot @ Massaponax (-14)
- Ponax looked extremely good last weekend against Battlefield.

7. Robinson @ South County (-15)
- SoCo won the first time, 37-20. It was one of their “closer games.” Robinson can’t throw the ball, we all know this. SoCo has some good LB’s, if they stuff the box and consistently get a good push on the line, they can hold Robinson scoreless. I don’t know if Robinson threw once last week. I noticed they put a LB back in coverage to try to stop the Braddock passing attack, to no avail. Too slow. Going to be interesting to see how they game plan for SoCo round 2. SoCo has been rolling, 22 in a row.

8. Thomas Dale @ Oscar Smith (-28)
- How many points does the Smith defense give up to Dale?

drinking my pee ohh

Just saw on twitter, looks like Woodson is open?

Poythrust Wrote:
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> Just saw on twitter, looks like Woodson is open?


Makes sense. Aside from the one year where WTW had an instance level of talent, thy were a disaster under Van Acker. Also I’ve been told by more than one person the administration had a number of issues with his sideline behavior.

parentof2 - region championships Wrote:
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> 3. Chantilly @ Madison (-6)
> - *Local game of the week.* Madison won the first
> match-up between the two, 10-3. It’ll definitely
> be a defensive game. Madison is similar to
> Robinson in the sense that they love to run the
> ball down your throat. Chantilly is going to need
> offense in this one. 7 points against a SL team
> who had a 2 week pause prior to the game?
> Unacceptable. I think Madison manages to score
> enough points to pull out the win.

I’ll be watching this game, any idea who to watch besides the notre dame commit? Who are the all conference players?

I’m not sure about the all conference players but I believe the ND commit is the only player committed playing in the game, and I believe the only other player with offers is the Tilly TE. I don’t think madison has any kids even with offers. It’s quite incredible these two teams are here, just shows that they both have great coaching and players who play for each other and not for themselves

What happened to the vhsl reference?

VHSL reference gave up on football in exchange for social justice issues. Being woke is more important than football.

>I’ll be watching this game, any idea who to watch besides the notre dame commit?
>Who are the all conference players?

Team Rosters - https://www.district1va.org/g5-bin/client.cgi?activity_99_104_1_=Football%20Varsity

ALL DISTRICT HONORS

Chantilly Chargers

Defensive Player of the Year
- Aiden Gobaira – DE

FIRST TEAM
- Aiden Gobaira – DE
- Nolan Riley – LB
- Tro Davenport – DB
- Mike Tacinelli – TE
- Jack Griese – Offensive All Purpose
- Julian Zuanfuchs – DL
- Garrett Robertson – DB
- Kevin Amaya – Punter

SECOND TEAM
- Noah Kinerney – OL
- Antwon Jackson – RB
- Ruben Kessler – DL
- Aidan Ramich – LB
- Matt Harper – DB
- Ziad Kashef – Defensive All Purpose

HONORABLE MENTION
- Liam Turner OL
- Desean Andrews – WR
- Jack Griese – RB
- Jayden Oh – Place Kicker
- Lorenzo Tamayo – DL
- Ziad Kashef – LB
- Aiden Sahm – DB

James Madison Warhawks

FIRST TEAM
- Joey Johnstone – C
- Jakob Willett – OL
- Rusty Forbes – OL
- Alex Jreige – RB
- Brendan Wyka – WR
- Connor Sevy – Place Kicker
- Donavin Hansberry – DL
- Kyle Porter – DE
- Ryan Salvosa – LB
- Austin Wysocki – LB
- Kieran Leogue – DB

SECOND TEAM
- John Klein – RB
- Connor Barry – QB
- John Hurley – Offensive and Defensive All Purpose
- Nick Ceynowa – DL
- Dylan Wilkinson – LB
- John Hurley – DB
- Justin Williams – DB

HONORABLE MENTION
- Grant Boody – OL
- Ciaran Sullivan – OL
- Braden Holt – TE
- Ethan Lanier – DL
- Kevin Chadwick – DE
- Chris Blanda – DB
- John Hurley – Kick Returner

Woodbridge
Briar Woods
Battlefield
Woodson

So far openings in head coaching positions

Henderson relieved of duties at Hayfield.

Dust Meet Bite Wrote:
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> Henderson relieved of duties at Hayfield.


Is this really surprising? Hayfield has never really lived up to it’s potential, and the past two years have been disasters. So are there any sitting HC’s who could, or should be interested in this job? School has quite a bit of talent, but needs someone who can instill a little discipline.

What other HC’s are on the way out?

I’d love to see Coach Hill take over at Hayfield again. They screwed him out of the HC spot the last time he coached there.

Gotta think Aziz goes for it.

Whoever takes that job needs to clean house completely and needs the backing to do so.

Of course Aziz goes for it...he applies for every job! But right now Hayfield isn't really a step up, in my opinion, at least not worth leaving Falls Church for. Hayfield has a tougher schedule and not as much talent as they used to. The best teams they had under Heavy Hendo were with kids he recruited from PG & MD.

Watched Madison-Wakefield and was not impressed with Madison. Not only do they look small, but they are too predictive with their offense. Was it a case of them playing down to the lack of talent at Wakefield, or is this normal for them? If it is normal, either Robinson or SOCO will kill them.

Madison? Wrote:
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> Watched Madison-Wakefield and was not impressed
> with Madison. Not only do they look small, but
> they are too predictive with their offense. Was
> it a case of them playing down to the lack of
> talent at Wakefield, or is this normal for them?
> If it is normal, either Robinson or SOCO will kill
> them.

They played a ton of their JV players. They could have beat them 70-0 if they wanted to. The coaches like to lay off once the game is won.

Watch the games against Westfield, Chantilly, or Centreville...

Watch the games against Westfield, Chantilly, or Centreville...

I think the Def Line coach at SOCO (Jennings) will apply and I think he would get serious consideration for the job. He has been with a very good program now for a while and knows what needs to get done to be good.

Jennings Fan Wrote:
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> I think the Def Line coach at SOCO (Jennings) will
> apply and I think he would get serious
> consideration for the job. He has been with a very
> good program now for a while and knows what needs
> to get done to be good.

Never heard of him. But why would you want to go from a state championship winning program to a dumpster fire?

Masochists Anonymous Wrote:
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> Jennings Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think the Def Line coach at SOCO (Jennings)
> will
> > apply and I think he would get serious
> > consideration for the job. He has been with a
> very
> > good program now for a while and knows what
> needs
> > to get done to be good.
>
> Never heard of him. But why would you want to go
> from a state championship winning program to a
> dumpster fire?

Probably because it could be his own. Hayfield is still a secondary school so there is potential to develop 7th and 8th grader more before they step on the field.

Jennings has put in his time as the clip board holder, developing a great defensive line and getting none of the credit. Now is his time to shine, his time to reap the benefits of all his hard work, to finally be the main show at his old stomping grounds. Hayfield family rise up and demand excellence. Demand Dan Jennings as your new HC. If you do, you will fly like a HAWK.

You heard it here first. Jennings contacted Hayfield admin this afternoon and let them know he was available and very interested. He is at the top of their list.

Herndon and Lewis are also advertising their HC jobs, in addition to Hayfield. Woodson is advertising for assistant football coaches. Have they already made a hire?

RegionGuy Wrote:
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> Herndon and Lewis are also advertising their HC
> jobs, in addition to Hayfield. Woodson is
> advertising for assistant football coaches. Have
> they already made a hire?


Wouldn’t be surprised if Mel Morgan gets hired to be their new head coach. If you’re him you gotta take a shot at it. Was a former assistant coach their has does a good enough job at Oakton to even keep them afloat. In fact he almost beat Woodson the last time he coached against them in 2019 17-19.

Not Surprised...are you kidding me? Mel Morgan went to Oakton ,won 2 games (could've won 3)and apparently got rid of his offensive staff so he could run the offense (based on this past season) and only won 1 game and scored HALF of the amount combined in 6 games that they did in 2 games in his first year! Not to mention the thread from someone stating he stole a kids sneakers & wore them during practice (not sure if that’s true but I wouldn’t doubt it). He is a raw raw guy (cheerleader) and has NO CLUE how to run a team, let alone an offense/defense. How did he improve Oakton? He should stay at Oakton, better yet, I heard Vienna Yoith is hiring, go there Mel!

Where is everyone hearing about the Henderson news at? I can’t find anything on any of Hayfield’s Twitter or his

Source Wrote:
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> You heard it here first. Jennings contacted
> Hayfield admin this afternoon and let them know he
> was available and very interested. He is at the
> top of their list.


Yeah his D-line was the reason SOCO won last year the guy clearly knows how to find and develop talent! Plus I’ve heard all the kids absolutely adore the guy.

You are talking about the weak link on the soco coaching staff?

Poythrust Wrote:
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> You are talking about the weak link on the soco
> coaching staff?


How can someone who coached 2 all state guys and the DPOY of Virginia be considered the weak link? Have you seen that Dline the past couple of years?

DJennings Wrote:
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> Source Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You heard it here first. Jennings contacted
> > Hayfield admin this afternoon and let them know
> he
> > was available and very interested. He is at the
> > top of their list.
>
>
> Yeah his D-line was the reason SOCO won last year
> the guy clearly knows how to find and develop
> talent! Plus I’ve heard all the kids absolutely
> adore the guy.

Damn, South County's losing another coach but this time, the kids know about it brfore the playoffs are over. That's rough and it could affect their effort just when they need to focus the most!!

Who wins on Friday Chantilly or madison?

Concorde mind Wrote:
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> Who wins on Friday Chantilly or madison?


My team is ready! Eating Warhawk on Friday night, they aren’t physically ready for us! #purpleplatoon #3moregames

I hear they are quite tasty with a spicy orange barbecue sauce... I call legs...

Not suprised Wrote:
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> RegionGuy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Herndon and Lewis are also advertising their HC
> > jobs, in addition to Hayfield. Woodson is
> > advertising for assistant football coaches.
> Have
> > they already made a hire?
>
>
> Wouldn’t be surprised if Mel Morgan gets hired
> to be their new head coach. If you’re him you
> gotta take a shot at it. Was a former assistant
> coach their has does a good enough job at Oakton
> to even keep them afloat. In fact he almost beat
> Woodson the last time he coached against them in
> 2019 17-19.

Please, please take him back Woodson. Then you can lead the county in delay of game penalties. Unfortunately, the brain-dead AD at Oakton will then find the third-worst coach in Nova to hire. How's it going at Osbourn Park, Ryan Smith?

Dooouugghhh Wrote:
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> DJennings Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Source Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You heard it here first. Jennings contacted
> > > Hayfield admin this afternoon and let them
> know
> > he
> > > was available and very interested. He is at
> the
> > > top of their list.
> >
> >
> > Yeah his D-line was the reason SOCO won last
> year
> > the guy clearly knows how to find and develop
> > talent! Plus I’ve heard all the kids
> absolutely
> > adore the guy.
>
> Damn, South County's losing another coach but this
> time, the kids know about it brfore the playoffs
> are over. That's rough and it could affect their
> effort just when they need to focus the most!!

I hear the Hayfield Admin set up a phone interview last night after SOCO's practice with Coach Jennings to gauge his interest. They did not want to wait around and let the opportunity to grab a talented young seasoned mentor/coach for their program slip away. He, of course, let them know that he would need to focus on his current mission of leading the South County Defense with his stellar game planning, in game adjustments, and mentoring of all the young men of SOCO Football before he could consider another opportunity. This guy is all you could ever want in a football coach Hayfield. Do not let this opportunity to hire your future State Championship winning Coach pass you by. Hire him immediately.

yeah, but cat is already out of the bag!!! let's see what pop's up on twitter.

CalPreps predictions for upcoming Regional Championships:

Chantilly (VA) at Madison (Vienna, VA), 7:00pm
[projection: Madison [James] (Vienna, VA) 19-14]

Patriot (Nokesville, VA) at Massaponax (Spotsylvania, VA), 7:00pm
[projection: Massaponax (Spotsylvania, VA) 40-20]

Robinson (Fairfax, VA) at South County (Lorton, VA), 7:00pm
[projection: South County (Lorton, VA) 40-24]

Dale (Chester, VA) at Smith (Chesapeake, VA),Saturday, Apr 17 2:00pm
[projection: Smith [Oscar] (Chesapeake, VA) 44-21]

WaitWHAT?! Wrote:
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> Not Surprised...are you kidding me? Mel Morgan
> went to Oakton ,won 2 games (could've won 3)and
> apparently got rid of his offensive staff so he
> could run the offense (based on this past season)
> and only won 1 game and scored HALF of the amount
> combined in 6 games that they did in 2 games in
> his first year! Not to mention the thread from
> someone stating he stole a kids sneakers & wore
> them during practice (not sure if that’s true
> but I wouldn’t doubt it). He is a raw raw guy
> (cheerleader) and has NO CLUE how to run a team,
> let alone an offense/defense. How did he improve
> Oakton? He should stay at Oakton, better yet, I
> heard Vienna Yoith is hiring, go there Mel!


Not gonna defend that at all but let’s see here, Oakton actually could’ve won 4 games that 2019 season came down to the last drive and even that is a surprise in itself. I’ve seen Oakton football games yes they aren’t very good but let’s be honest that program isn’t good and hasn’t been in a long time. Their last “good season” was when they went 4-6 in 2016. The talent drop off at Oakton has been horrible. Oakton was going to be 2-4 at the most in this season. The only hope for their football team is to move to the Liberty District and beat up on teams like Herndon W&L Langley ect...or find a coach that can elevate their players and play beyond their talents which is very rare to see these days. You aren’t gonna find a Simmons Counts or Curry very often like these other concorde teams have found.

Hopefully that poor kid from Oakton got his cleats back from the coach.

XYMBS Wrote:
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> WaitWHAT?! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not Surprised...are you kidding me? Mel Morgan
> > went to Oakton ,won 2 games (could've won 3)and
> > apparently got rid of his offensive staff so he
> > could run the offense (based on this past
> season)
> > and only won 1 game and scored HALF of the
> amount
> > combined in 6 games that they did in 2 games in
> > his first year! Not to mention the thread from
> > someone stating he stole a kids sneakers & wore
> > them during practice (not sure if that’s true
> > but I wouldn’t doubt it). He is a raw raw guy
> > (cheerleader) and has NO CLUE how to run a
> team,
> > let alone an offense/defense. How did he
> improve
> > Oakton? He should stay at Oakton, better yet, I
> > heard Vienna Yoith is hiring, go there Mel!
>
>
> Not gonna defend that at all but let’s see here,
> Oakton actually could’ve won 4 games that 2019
> season came down to the last drive and even that
> is a surprise in itself. I’ve seen Oakton
> football games yes they aren’t very good but
> let’s be honest that program isn’t good and
> hasn’t been in a long time. Their last “good
> season” was when they went 4-6 in 2016. The
> talent drop off at Oakton has been horrible.
> Oakton was going to be 2-4 at the most in this
> season. The only hope for their football team is
> to move to the Liberty District and beat up on
> teams like Herndon W&L Langley ect...or find a
> coach that can elevate their players and play
> beyond their talents which is very rare to see
> these days. You aren’t gonna find a Simmons
> Counts or Curry very often like these other
> concorde teams have found.


It's been a tough several years for Oakton. No question. I used to think their demographics doomed them going forward, but I don't see that holding Madison back so. . .

The seniors this year had a rough go of it. They entered as freshmen in 2017 when Jason Rowley had pretty much already checked out. Suffered through the worst coaching staff in VHSL history in Ryan Smith and his cast of hillbillies as sophomores.. Had a new coaching staff last year under Morgan and Hoskins, and in the middle of their junior year, Covid hits. Oh yeh, the school has been an open pit construction zone for the past 3+ years so there was no school weight room to speak of for offseason training. Combine that with playing in the Concorde, and there is no wonder they struggled.

Having watched their games, they had some talent, but they were overmatched physically and had no depth. Their running game was in shambles (starting RB quit halfway through the year), and it's a miracle that their QB did not leave any games on a stretcher given the hits he took., The defense was on the field 35-40 minutes, opposing teams sent 2-3 kids each play to block the few kids who consistently made tackles, and the D just got worn out. For those of us who remember the glory years, it's been a rough roller coaster ride.

As for the current coaches, I can quibble here and there (esp with offensive play calling), but you could have put Lombardi and Belichek on the sidelines and they maybe would have gone 3-4. No chance they could have beaten the Concorde teams.

The seniors deserved better. Hopefully, they will use the experience to develop a sense of grit and resiliency in life as playing in a down football program is not the worst thing that can happen to you.

Do the seniors deserve better? Yes no doubt! However YIU stated they could’ve won 4 games in 2019 (Morgan’s first year). If they could’ve won games like that, why would you change the whole offensive staff etc. if you felt it was working? Maybe the coaches decided to go somewhere else, or they couldn’t work with Morgan, who knows. Bottom line is, they scored less points in 2019 then this past season and didn’t improve when one could say that had almost the same talent. You have a QB with an arm and receivers who could catch. A pretty decent offensive line. They lost to Fairfax who doesn’t have a lot of players, barely beat Langley, and got blown out throughout the season. Mel Morgan is, at best, an assistant coach and not Head Coach material. He’s a Defensive Coach and he’s calling the Offense!?! Makes no sense!! If Woodson hires this guy then they’re idiots!

Here’s a question, is Woodson a better job than Oakton? If you say yes, please explain. As far as demographics, Oakton’s not much different than Madison, and both have VYI as a feeder program. No way Woodson draws better football players. I would think once the remodel is complete, Oakton would be far better, facility wise. There is plenty of money floating around Oakton to support the program. I just can’t see WTW being a step up. Maybe when you look at the conferences top to bottom you have a couple more easy wins, but that’s arguable.

NorthernVA is reaping the rewards of Liberal Fear tactics. Don't forget, they wanted to Cancel football. Before Covid, it was head injuries caused by football!!

Parents are not letting their kids play youth football at the same levels they did in the past. Additionally, kids have a lot more options than playing football in this area!! The connections to the community do not rely on football games when families have so many other things to do!

Last, ethnic diversity will continue to lessen the community's interest in football. As you all know Asian & Latino's exceed black populations in most schools. White kids participation levels continue to decrease.

Population density will kerp football alive but the quality will continue to decrease as these noted trends continue. So, for those communities that have football-centric commitments, I expect increased dominance. One only needs to look at the other clases to see what's happening. Class 5 Highland Springs & Maury, Class 4 Lake Taylor. Class 3 Hopewell.

NutFan Wrote:
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> NorthernVA is reaping the rewards of Liberal Fear
> tactics. Don't forget, they wanted to Cancel
> football. Before Covid, it was head injuries
> caused by football!!
>
> Parents are not letting their kids play youth
> football at the same levels they did in the past.
> Additionally, kids have a lot more options than
> playing football in this area!! The connections to
> the community do not rely on football games when
> families have so many other things to do!
>
> Last, ethnic diversity will continue to lessen the
> community's interest in football. As you all know
> Asian & Latino's exceed black populations in most
> schools. White kids participation levels continue
> to decrease.
>
> Population density will kerp football alive but
> the quality will continue to decrease as these
> noted trends continue. So, for those communities
> that have football-centric commitments, I expect
> increased dominance. One only needs to look at the
> other clases to see what's happening. Class 5
> Highland Springs & Maury, Class 4 Lake Taylor.
> Class 3 Hopewell.

Finally, someone who gets it and understands the issue. A rarity on here.

Jennings Fan Wrote:
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> Dooouugghhh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DJennings Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Source Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You heard it here first. Jennings contacted
> > > > Hayfield admin this afternoon and let them
> > know
> > > he
> > > > was available and very interested. He is at
> > the
> > > > top of their list.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah his D-line was the reason SOCO won last
> > year
> > > the guy clearly knows how to find and develop
> > > talent! Plus I’ve heard all the kids
> > absolutely
> > > adore the guy.
> >
> > Damn, South County's losing another coach but
> this
> > time, the kids know about it brfore the
> playoffs
> > are over. That's rough and it could affect
> their
> > effort just when they need to focus the most!!
>
> I hear the Hayfield Admin set up a phone interview
> last night after SOCO's practice with Coach
> Jennings to gauge his interest. They did not want
> to wait around and let the opportunity to grab a
> talented young seasoned mentor/coach for their
> program slip away. He, of course, let them know
> that he would need to focus on his current mission
> of leading the South County Defense with his
> stellar game planning, in game adjustments, and
> mentoring of all the young men of SOCO Football
> before he could consider another opportunity. This
> guy is all you could ever want in a football coach
> Hayfield. Do not let this opportunity to hire your
> future State Championship winning Coach pass you
> by. Hire him immediately.

Update on Hayfield- Coach Jennings had to scoot out of practice a little early last night to go home and update his resume for the Hayfield interview. Of course, he also put some time into last minute prep for the Regional Title game his current team is about to play on Friday night. He would never step into another job before finishing his current job. Just the kind of guy he is, you know what I mean. All I can say is look out Northern Region and the state of Virginia. When this hardworking, bull of a man takes over the Hawk Nation, the wins are going to start piling up, just like he did at SOCO. He is the primary reason for the success of SOCO. They only started winning meaningful games once he arrived 5 years ago. Now they are losing him to their cross town rivals, who will now be set up to dominate SOCO in this annual game. All I can say is do not wait Hayfield Admin, the man, the myth, the legend Dan Jennings is ready to rumble with the heavy weights of the Northern Region. You better scoop him up before somebody else does.

Jennings Fan Wrote:
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> Jennings Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dooouugghhh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > DJennings Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Source Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > You heard it here first. Jennings
> contacted
> > > > > Hayfield admin this afternoon and let
> them
> > > know
> > > > he
> > > > > was available and very interested. He is
> at
> > > the
> > > > > top of their list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah his D-line was the reason SOCO won
> last
> > > year
> > > > the guy clearly knows how to find and
> develop
> > > > talent! Plus I’ve heard all the kids
> > > absolutely
> > > > adore the guy.
> > >
> > > Damn, South County's losing another coach but
> > this
> > > time, the kids know about it brfore the
> > playoffs
> > > are over. That's rough and it could affect
> > their
> > > effort just when they need to focus the
> most!!
> >
> > I hear the Hayfield Admin set up a phone
> interview
> > last night after SOCO's practice with Coach
> > Jennings to gauge his interest. They did not
> want
> > to wait around and let the opportunity to grab
> a
> > talented young seasoned mentor/coach for their
> > program slip away. He, of course, let them know
> > that he would need to focus on his current
> mission
> > of leading the South County Defense with his
> > stellar game planning, in game adjustments, and
> > mentoring of all the young men of SOCO Football
> > before he could consider another opportunity.
> This
> > guy is all you could ever want in a football
> coach
> > Hayfield. Do not let this opportunity to hire
> your
> > future State Championship winning Coach pass
> you
> > by. Hire him immediately.
>
> Update on Hayfield- Coach Jennings had to scoot
> out of practice a little early last night to go
> home and update his resume for the Hayfield
> interview. Of course, he also put some time into
> last minute prep for the Regional Title game his
> current team is about to play on Friday night. He
> would never step into another job before finishing
> his current job. Just the kind of guy he is, you
> know what I mean. All I can say is look out
> Northern Region and the state of Virginia. When
> this hardworking, bull of a man takes over the
> Hawk Nation, the wins are going to start piling
> up, just like he did at SOCO. He is the primary
> reason for the success of SOCO. They only started
> winning meaningful games once he arrived 5 years
> ago. Now they are losing him to their cross town
> rivals, who will now be set up to dominate SOCO in
> this annual game. All I can say is do not wait
> Hayfield Admin, the man, the myth, the legend Dan
> Jennings is ready to rumble with the heavy weights
> of the Northern Region. You better scoop him up
> before somebody else does.


How often does this guy (that nobody has ever heard of) fuck your wife?

Must be a Robinson parent trying to stir the pot

Insider 411 Wrote:
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> Must be a Robinson parent trying to stir the pot


Can you smell what Jennings is cookin. #Best Head Coach in the State. 2021 State Champs Hayfield High Flyin Hawks.

Hayfield could hire Rush Propst and it would still take at least 2-3 years to get the program back on track

Insider 411 Wrote:
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> Must be a Robinson parent trying to stir the pot

No one at Robinson would even know who he is or what he coaches. Has to be a South County coach or player.

It looks like openings at Hayfield, Herndon and Lewis so far

hc vacancy Wrote:
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> It looks like openings at Hayfield, Herndon and
> Lewis so far


Same thing is happening in VaBeach.

Salem VB
Kellam
Ocean Lakes

All have Coaches that have resigned in the last week!

The Kellam and Salem coaches both retired after 15+ years each at the helm. The only job out of those 3 i would take anyways is Ocean Lakes.

links to tonight's games?

South County vs Robinson

Madison vs Chantilly

South County vs Robinson- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTEuj2_f3W2NYHrHaoskVpQ

Madison vs Chantilly-
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnVheAdhNYeQquCdgII5VAQ

Madison 13 Chantilly 7

3 minutes to go in the 2Q

Just saw a play that Madison ran on a 3rd down and their entire o line dove at the knees of the Chantilly d line on a pass play.....one of the kids on chantilly went down and it looked bad not too sure what Madison was trying to do their but that's not a good look

Just saw a play that Madison ran on a 3rd down and their entire o line dove at the knees of the Chantilly d line on a pass play.....one of the kids on chantilly went down and it looked bad not too sure what Madison was trying to do their but that's not a good look

Madison 13 Chantilly 7
Halftime


South County 21 Robinson 7

Halftime



Good games so far Robinson needs to finish drives and its a one score game

Madison 19 Chantilly 14


4th Quarter Madison getting the ball 5 minutes to play


Great game here for the region championship both teams playing very hard

Doc cooks the best hot dogs! He has found his calling! And, look at his assistants flipping those burgers! What a staff!

NutFan Wrote:
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> CalPreps predictions for upcoming Regional
> Championships:
>
> Chantilly (VA) at Madison (Vienna, VA), 7:00pm
> [projection: Madison [James] (Vienna, VA) 19-14]
>
> Patriot (Nokesville, VA) at Massaponax
> (Spotsylvania, VA), 7:00pm
> [projection: Massaponax (Spotsylvania, VA) 40-20]
>
> Robinson (Fairfax, VA) at South County (Lorton,
> VA), 7:00pm
> [projection: South County (Lorton, VA) 40-24]
>
> Dale (Chester, VA) at Smith (Chesapeake,
> VA),Saturday, Apr 17 2:00pm
> [projection: Smith [Oscar] (Chesapeake, VA) 44-21]


CalPreps nailed the Chantilly vs Madison game!!

Pretty close South County 34 Robinson 27

Not so much with Massaponax 56 Patriot 21

Hi From the Big Game! Wrote:
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> Doc cooks the best hot dogs! He has found his
> calling! And, look at his assistants flipping
> those burgers! What a staff!


Need some GD “like” buttons for this site! Get on it Carey!

Early CalPreps prediction:

neutral field but Madison will Host South County.

South County (Lorton, VA) 22,
Madison [James] (Vienna, VA) 14

I expect a closer game. Robinson wore out South County at the end of the game & had a real chance to tie or win that game. It's very possible Madison will have the edge next week!

For your entertainment & to see what real dominance looks like.

Tomorrow, 2 PM from Chesapeake @ our Beard / DeLong / Easley Staduim

https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/oscar-smith-high-school-chesapeake-va/gamb1694b47de

So much for that vaunted Chantilly defense seemed like madison had them figured out. Madison’s defense played much better and it showed on scoreboard.

Had them figured out? Madison O scored twice. Madison D had an INT TD.
It was a fantastic high school football game. Tough fought game by both teams.

The Tilly DE was totally shut down tonight, did some in the run game but had no sacks, ive been following Tilly and madison all year and I think the only two games he’s been sackless is against them. Madison seemed to be the only team to figure him out

Concorde mind Wrote:
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> The Tilly DE was totally shut down tonight, did
> some in the run game but had no sacks, ive been
> following Tilly and madison all year and I think
> the only two games he’s been sackless is against
> them. Madison seemed to be the only team to figure
> him out


To be fair Madison completely ran every pass play away from him with a rollout or a quick one step fade/out. Other than that they just ran the ball 90 percent of the time and it worked.

You mean cut block?

Madison Warhawks think they are going to win LOL. We are going to beat this shit out them. Can't wait to end their season and see them crying.

South County Wrote:
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> Madison Warhawks think they are going to win LOL.
> We are going to beat this shit out them. Can't
> wait to end their season and see them crying.


Soco hasn’t played a real d like the hawks they are gonna shut them down to 2 tds max and the o is gonna burn the clock and tire them out and win 28-14

Duderhtj Wrote:
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> South County Wrote:
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> > Madison Warhawks think they are going to win
> LOL.
> > We are going to beat this shit out them. Can't
> > wait to end their season and see them crying.
>
>
> Soco hasn’t played a real d like the hawks they
> are gonna shut them down to 2 tds max and the o is
> gonna burn the clock and tire them out and win
> 28-14

Robinson exposed South County. They were gased the whole 4th quarter. If the Rams had any kind of a passing game, they'd be playing next week vs Madison!! If there has been a theme for this shortened season, it's been that teams that are better conditioned have prevailed in the 4th quarter!! That's why Westfield is done & why South County's won't repeat this year.

Cut blocking is part of football and is legal. Watch Robinson play they cut block all the time. When these guys get to the next level it is legal to cut anywhere on the field.

Blocking Below the Waist in Free-Blocking Zone Addressed in High School Football Rules
By NFHS on February 05, 2021
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The rule regarding blocking below the waist in the free-blocking zone in high school football has been revised for the upcoming 2021 season.

This rule change was recommended by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Football Rules Committee at its January 10-12 meeting, which was held virtually this year. This change to the 2021 NFHS Football Rules Book was subsequently approved by the NFHS Board of Directors.

As a result of numerous interpretations of current language regarding blocking below the waist in the free-blocking zone, the committee approved another condition in Rule 2-17-2 that must be met for a legal block below the waist in the free-blocking zone, which is a rectangular area extending laterally 4 yards either side of the spot of the snap and 3 yards behind each line of scrimmage.

The new requirement (2-17-2c) is that the block must be an immediate, initial action following the snap. Under the current rule, an offensive lineman can delay and then block below the waist if the ball is still in the zone. In the committee’s ongoing quest to minimize risk in high school football, the change was approved to require the block to be immediate.

“This change makes it easier for game officials to judge the legality of blocks below the waist and minimizes risk of injury for participants,” said Bob Colgate, NFHS director of sports and sports medicine and liaison to the Football Rules Committee. “This change lets game officials observe the block and make a call without having to determine where the ball is and what formation the offense lined up in.”

Blocking in the back continues to be legal in the free-blocking zone by offensive linemen who are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap, against defensive players who are in the zone at the snap and the contact is in the zone.

The committee noted there has been no criticism of the current rules governing blocks in the back as they are delayed blocks by nature, above the waist and considered to be a safe and necessary legal block.

“I believe this rule change will help make the interpretation of blocking below the waist consistent across the country starting next football season,” said Richard McWhirter, chair of the NFHS Football Rules Committee and assistant executive director of the Tennessee Secondary School Athletic Association.

The Football Rules Committee is composed of one representative from each of the NFHS member state associations that use NFHS playing rules, along with representatives from the NFHS Coaches Association, NFHS Officials Association and NFHS Sports Medicine Advisory Committee.

A complete listing of the football rules changes will be available on the NFHS website at www.nfhs.org. Click on “Activities & Sports” at the top of the home page and select “Football.”

According to the most recent NFHS High School Athletics Participation Survey, 11-player football is the most popular high school sport for boys with 1,006,013 participants in 14,247 schools nationwide. In addition, there were 31,221 boys who participated in 6-, 8- and 9-player football, along with 2,604 girls in all four versions of the game for a grand total of 1,039,828.

The seasoned officiating crew didn’t seem to have an issue with either teams’ blocking last night... perhaps you could send them a memo...

Maybe you could read a couple words in the very first paragraphs.

1. Proposed changes for 2021 Football season!!!

2. This year, even delayed cut blocks are okay as long as they occur in the free block zone.


So, wait until you see a D- Lineman has his leg planted firmly in the turf & dive right at his legs all night. No problem. There'll be a bit of a delay while they cart him off the field & bring in the next victim!!

If a defensive lineman isn't prepared to take on a legal cut block that's his position coaches fault. Teams trade film and are well aware of one another's blocking schemes. Cut blocks are used to slow defensive lineman down and it's the defensive coaches job to teach his Ayers how to defend themselves.

It's like a broken clock. Every year people are on here complaining about Madison and Robinson blocking techniques.

To OS....I know we like to throw jabs at each other on this forum, but my condolences to Oscar Smith as they lost a member of their football program earlier this season. The players showed class in an interview, dedicating and wanting to win a state championship for him.