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Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 08, 2009 03:33PM


Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Date: December 08, 2009 03:42PM

WOODBRIDGE, Va. - One person is in custody after reports of shots fired at the Woodbridge campus of Northern Virginia Community College, police say.

Prince William County Police say they received reports of a student armed with a gun in the main administration building of the campus around 2:40 p.m. Tuesday.

There are no reports of any injuries.

Officers and campus police responded to the scene as an "active shooter" situation, police say.

Emergency lockdown procedures were also in effect on the campus.

Tactical teams are currently conducting a safety sweep on the campus, which is located at 15200 Neabsco Mills Road.

According to the NOVA Web site, 11,000 students attend classes at the Woodbridge campus.

WTOP has a reporter en route and will have more information as it becomes available.

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Date: December 08, 2009 03:43PM

The guy walks in at 2:40 and by 3:40 it seems like the situation is resolved. Quick response from the PWC cops.

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: chopper rising ()
Date: December 08, 2009 03:48PM

Fairfax wouild just be scrambling the chopper in the air here. To be fair, the large Ferlazzo Eatern District HQ building is less than a 1/2 mile from the campus. They could probably have two dozen officers there in less than five minutes.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 08, 2009 03:53PM

from insidenova:

One parent who spoke with her daughter on her cell phone said her 18-year-old daughter, Alyssa, was inside a fourth floor classroom when she heard a gun go off in the hallway. She said she saw the gunman walk into the classroom, point the gun at the teacher and approach him.

“She said the teacher told the class to run, and when they did, she said she heard two more gunshots go off,” said Christine Brown, who rushed from Stafford to be with her daughter.

Stay with InsideNoVA.com with the story.



Scary stuff.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Date: December 08, 2009 04:05PM

Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't have some deaths or injuries that simply haven't been reported yet. When shots start going off, those bullets usually end up hitting someone.

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: December 08, 2009 04:33PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> “She said the teacher told the class to run, and
> when they did, she said she heard two more
> gunshots go off,” said Christine Brown, who rushed
> from Stafford to be with her daughter.

That's terrible advice from the teacher.

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Snapple ()
Date: December 08, 2009 04:33PM

God damn, how can someone get worked up enough about a community college to pull a gun?

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Date: December 08, 2009 04:37PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> > “She said the teacher told the class to run,
> and
> > when they did, she said she heard two more
> > gunshots go off,” said Christine Brown, who
> rushed
> > from Stafford to be with her daughter.
>
> That's terrible advice from the teacher.


That's the reason he/she was teaching at a community college and not Harvard.

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Date: December 08, 2009 04:38PM

Snapple Wrote:
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> God damn, how can someone get worked up enough
> about a community college to pull a gun?


What are the odds now that we are going to see "A Very Special Episode of 'Community'" for the February sweeps.

Bad news, it will suck. Good news, maybe Chevy Chase's character "gets it."

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: December 08, 2009 04:44PM

What year did this guy graduate from Westfield HS?

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: ROFL ()
Date: December 08, 2009 04:54PM

Eastsider Wrote:
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> What year did this guy graduate from Westfield HS?


LMAO

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: TefD187 ()
Date: December 08, 2009 05:01PM

Eastsider Wrote:
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> What year did this guy graduate from Westfield HS?


LOL

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: shameful ()
Date: December 08, 2009 05:03PM

Eastsider Wrote:
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> What year did this guy graduate from Westfield HS?


damn man, i wish you were in the way of that bullet

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: larry ()
Date: December 08, 2009 05:07PM

shameful Wrote:
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> Eastsider Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What year did this guy graduate from Westfield
> HS?
>
>
> damn man, i wish you were in the way of that
> bullet


Shut up, shameful. I don't care you who are, that's funny right there. And I'm a former WHS student.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Smelly Clown Shoe ()
Date: December 08, 2009 05:22PM

larry Wrote:
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> shameful Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Eastsider Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What year did this guy graduate from
> Westfield
> > HS?
> >
> >
> > damn man, i wish you were in the way of that
> > bullet
>
>
> Shut up, shameful. I don't care you who are,
> that's funny right there. And I'm a former WHS
> student.


He's probably not from Westfield HS. Graduates of Westfield HS are good shots and takeout multiple victims.

And yes, that's damn funny!

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:06PM

Doesn't stuff like this happen in Hoodbridge everyday?

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: FAIRFAX COUNTYS MASTER OF METAL ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:14PM


Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: FAIRFAX COUNTYS MATER OF METAL ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:18PM

496 Wrote:
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> Doesn't stuff like this happen in Hoodbridge
> everyday?

No. Not really.

I would rather have my car break down in Hoodbridge over Southeast DC.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: FAIRFAX COUNTYS MASTER OF METAL ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:33PM

Snapple Wrote:
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> God damn, how can someone get worked up enough
> about a community college to pull a gun?



Back in the day somebody got worked up enough about NOVA in Annandale to place several bombs inside the school's lockers.

I dont know if any detonated though.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Annon Imous ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:57PM

How the hell do you miss someone who's across the room when you have a RIFLE, anyway? That motherfucker should get 25 years for attempted murder and ten years for poor marksmanship.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Joey Amtrak ()
Date: December 09, 2009 11:50AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Johnny Walker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > “She said the teacher told the class to run,
> > and
> > > when they did, she said she heard two more
> > > gunshots go off,” said Christine Brown, who
> > rushed
> > > from Stafford to be with her daughter.
> >
> > That's terrible advice from the teacher.
>
>
> That's the reason he/she was teaching at a
> community college and not Harvard.

Exacery, why else would Jill Biden teach there?

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: hoodie ()
Date: December 09, 2009 11:52AM

FAIRFAX COUNTYS MASTER OF METAL Wrote:
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> Snapple Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > God damn, how can someone get worked up enough
> > about a community college to pull a gun?
>
> http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/bomb.jpg
>
> Back in the day somebody got worked up enough
> about NOVA in Annandale to place several bombs
> inside the school's lockers.
>
> I dont know if any detonated though.

The dude was worked up because his wife was donut bumping with Patricia Cornwell. He put bombs at NOVA Woodbridge as well.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: FAIRFAX COUNTYS MASTER OF METAL ()
Date: December 09, 2009 01:00PM

hoodie Wrote:
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> FAIRFAX COUNTYS MASTER OF METAL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Snapple Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > God damn, how can someone get worked up
> enough
> > > about a community college to pull a gun?
> >
> > http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/bomb.jpg
> >
> > Back in the day somebody got worked up enough
> > about NOVA in Annandale to place several bombs
> > inside the school's lockers.
> >
> > I dont know if any detonated though.
>
> The dude was worked up because his wife was donut
> bumping with Patricia Cornwell. He put bombs at
> NOVA Woodbridge as well.

Damn. I think I would be pissed off about that too.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: December 09, 2009 05:44PM

Geesss...lots of angry 20 something young boys on FFXU! RV..Gravis..you're right you arent one person...well...you are sort of one person..that is when 2 become 1....oh my!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Tiffany ()
Date: December 09, 2009 08:16PM

How dare you. What do you know about being in a situation like this. You know nothing. NVCC is one of the top community colleges in the nation. You have no place to judge anyone. Your so busy trying to blame someone you didn't take the time to think "Thank God everyone is safe." You just jumped right into blaming someone. How selfish are you, you think you know everything. You're just a bully.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: pontoon ()
Date: December 10, 2009 09:23AM

Tiffany Wrote:
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NVCC is one
> of the top community colleges in the nation.

Wow, that's like bragging about being the JV district champs in basketball.

When you take away all the real competition, we're #1!!!!!!!

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: my so busy ()
Date: December 10, 2009 10:48AM

Tiffany Wrote:
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> How dare you. What do you know about being in a
> situation like this. You know nothing. NVCC is one
> of the top community colleges in the nation. You
> have no place to judge anyone. Your so busy trying
> to blame someone you didn't take the time to think
> "Thank God everyone is safe." You just jumped
> right into blaming someone. How selfish are you,
> you think you know everything. You're just a
> bully.


my so busy, indeed!

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 10, 2009 03:50PM

Tiffany Wrote:
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Your so busy trying
> to blame someone you didn't take the time to think
> "Thank God everyone is safe."


Community College student spotted.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2009 03:50PM by Johnny Walker.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Take a Stand ()
Date: December 10, 2009 04:53PM

The real question; " Is are children learning?"

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: why?? ()
Date: December 10, 2009 05:22PM

This classroom was full of a bunch of cowards. Why did someone not get up and tackle the gunman after he fired his first shot? He had a BOLT ACTION RIFLE! Not an M16! There was plenty of time to take him down before he chambered another round. Oh well, at least he missed twice and then his gun jammed.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: R.I.P. Big L ()
Date: December 12, 2009 05:42AM

i was on campus that day, i actually heard the shots go off...

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Think first, post second ()
Date: December 12, 2009 01:52PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > “She said the teacher told the class to run,
> and
> > when they did, she said she heard two more
> > gunshots go off,” said Christine Brown, who
> rushed
> > from Stafford to be with her daughter.
>
> That's terrible advice from the teacher.


How is that terrible advice? What an absolutely stupid thing to say!

One moment the woman is teaching a class and the next, someone is trying to kill her with a high power rifle. How calm, cool, and collective would you be in this situation? The professor realized that she was the target and while the gunman's focus was on her, she instructed the class to flee. Under the circumstances this woman's actions were nothing short of heroic.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 12, 2009 05:06PM

why?? Wrote:
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> This classroom was full of a bunch of cowards.
> Why did someone not get up and tackle the gunman
> after he fired his first shot? He had a BOLT
> ACTION RIFLE! Not an M16! There was plenty of
> time to take him down before he chambered another
> round. Oh well, at least he missed twice and then
> his gun jammed.


All right, Rambo. I'm sure you'd be the hero of the day in that situation.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: rambo ()
Date: December 12, 2009 06:15PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> why?? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This classroom was full of a bunch of cowards.
> > Why did someone not get up and tackle the
> gunman
> > after he fired his first shot? He had a BOLT
> > ACTION RIFLE! Not an M16! There was plenty of
> > time to take him down before he chambered
> another
> > round. Oh well, at least he missed twice and
> then
> > his gun jammed.
>
>
> All right, Rambo. I'm sure you'd be the hero of
> the day in that situation.


Actually, I would be. It's pretty simple. You can do one of two things:

1) Attack the shooter, take a chance of getting shot.
2) Sit back and do nothing, get shot, and die.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Watson ()
Date: December 12, 2009 11:38PM

Its alot easier to shoot someone whos running away than someone who is charging at you, especially with a rifle.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 12, 2009 11:40PM

rambo Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > why?? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This classroom was full of a bunch of cowards.
>
> > > Why did someone not get up and tackle the
> > gunman
> > > after he fired his first shot? He had a BOLT
> > > ACTION RIFLE! Not an M16! There was plenty
> of
> > > time to take him down before he chambered
> > another
> > > round. Oh well, at least he missed twice and
> > then
> > > his gun jammed.
> >
> >
> > All right, Rambo. I'm sure you'd be the hero of
> > the day in that situation.
>
>
> Actually, I would be. It's pretty simple. You
> can do one of two things:
>
> 1) Attack the shooter, take a chance of getting
> shot.
> 2) Sit back and do nothing, get shot, and die.


You been in this situation? I doubt it.



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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: rambo ()
Date: December 12, 2009 11:50PM

Watson Wrote:
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> Its alot easier to shoot someone whos running away
> than someone who is charging at you, especially
> with a rifle.


Especially when he has a bolt action rifle! Just charge at him immediately after he fires his first round, and there is no way he is going to chamber another round and get a shot off at you before you tackle him (especially considering how inexperienced he was)!!

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: December 13, 2009 03:10AM

rambo Wrote:
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> Watson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Its alot easier to shoot someone whos running
> away
> > than someone who is charging at you, especially
> > with a rifle.
>
>
> Especially when he has a bolt action rifle! Just
> charge at him immediately after he fires his first
> round, and there is no way he is going to chamber
> another round and get a shot off at you before you
> tackle him (especially considering how
> inexperienced he was)!!

obviously so inexperienced that he did not know how to clean his rifle, causing it to jam. He then pussied out and sat in the hall and gave himself up. He could have at least done the respectable thing and offed himself.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: rambo ()
Date: December 13, 2009 11:03AM

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> rambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Watson Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Its alot easier to shoot someone whos running
> > away
> > > than someone who is charging at you,
> especially
> > > with a rifle.
> >
> >
> > Especially when he has a bolt action rifle!
> Just
> > charge at him immediately after he fires his
> first
> > round, and there is no way he is going to
> chamber
> > another round and get a shot off at you before
> you
> > tackle him (especially considering how
> > inexperienced he was)!!
>
> obviously so inexperienced that he did not know
> how to clean his rifle, causing it to jam. He then
> pussied out and sat in the hall and gave himself
> up. He could have at least done the respectable
> thing and offed himself.


Yeah you pretty much suck at marksmanship if you jam and a bolt action rifle and can't get it unjammed.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: December 13, 2009 12:26PM

Think first, post second Wrote:
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> How is that terrible advice? What an absolutely
> stupid thing to say!
>
> One moment the woman is teaching a class and the
> next, someone is trying to kill her with a high
> power rifle. How calm, cool, and collective would
> you be in this situation? The professor realized
> that she was the target and while the gunman's
> focus was on her, she instructed the class to
> flee. Under the circumstances this woman's
> actions were nothing short of heroic.

Because people need to learn from the mistakes of the past.

9/11 might have been avoided if passengers had taken decisive action immediately. However, they understandably didn't, because prior hostage situations usually ended with the plane landing somewhere. In the wake of 9/11, passengers have reacted to problems on planes in a more direct manner, assuming that doing nothing is what'll get them killed.

The VA Tech shooter got most of his victims while they were running or trying to hide, and set the standard for what can happen during a mass-shooting incident. Everyone should assume that inaction is going to get them killed just as quickly as attacking the shooter. If this kid actually knew what he was doing, it would have went very differently.

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Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: rambo ()
Date: December 13, 2009 01:24PM

+1 Mr. Mephisto

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 13, 2009 01:46PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> The VA Tech shooter got most of his victims while
> they were running or trying to hide, and set the
> standard for what can happen during a
> mass-shooting incident. Everyone should assume
> that inaction is going to get them killed just as
> quickly as attacking the shooter. If this kid
> actually knew what he was doing, it would have
> went very differently.


Cho was at the door to the classrooms and there wasn't much anyone could do. Nowhere to run. Also, a few brave people died barricading the door to the room to allow others to escape, saving those people's lives. It's not as though no one did anything.

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: R.I.P. Big L ()
Date: December 13, 2009 09:10PM

If someone was shooting up my class room, I don't I would want to charge the shooter... I don't know anything about just, just w/e is on Modern Warfare 2, hehe

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: December 14, 2009 01:30AM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The VA Tech shooter got most of his victims
> while
> > they were running or trying to hide, and set
> the
> > standard for what can happen during a
> > mass-shooting incident. Everyone should assume
> > that inaction is going to get them killed just
> as
> > quickly as attacking the shooter. If this kid
> > actually knew what he was doing, it would have
> > went very differently.
>
>
> Cho was at the door to the classrooms and there
> wasn't much anyone could do. Nowhere to run. Also,
> a few brave people died barricading the door to
> the room to allow others to escape, saving those
> people's lives. It's not as though no one did
> anything.

Funny, thats what CNN wanted us to think

Re: Shots fired at Woodbridge NOVA
Posted by: tf ()
Date: December 16, 2009 10:48AM

psMrMephisto Wrote:
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> Think first, post second Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How is that terrible advice? What an
> absolutely
> > stupid thing to say!
> >
> > One moment the woman is teaching a class and
> the
> > next, someone is trying to kill her with a high
> > power rifle. How calm, cool, and collective
> would
> > you be in this situation? The professor
> realized
> > that she was the target and while the gunman's
> > focus was on her, she instructed the class to
> > flee. Under the circumstances this woman's
> > actions were nothing short of heroic.
>
> Because people need to learn from the mistakes of
> the past.
>
> 9/11 might have been avoided if passengers had
> taken decisive action immediately. However, they
> understandably didn't, because prior hostage
> situations usually ended with the plane landing
> somewhere. In the wake of 9/11, passengers have
> reacted to problems on planes in a more direct
> manner, assuming that doing nothing is what'll get
> them killed.
>
> The VA Tech shooter got most of his victims while
> they were running or trying to hide, and set the
> standard for what can happen during a
> mass-shooting incident. Everyone should assume
> that inaction is going to get them killed just as
> quickly as attacking the shooter. If this kid
> actually knew what he was doing, it would have
> went very differently.


MrMephisto,
What action do you believe the professor should have taken? However, I agree with you that in the VT situation many lives could have been saved if some courageous students rushed the gunman. What was the guy (Cho) 5'6" 120lbs.? (I am unaware of actual casualties of those running away in the VT tragedy.)

To "Rambo": A bolt action rifle can be re-chambered in fractions of a second by an experienced marksman. Rushing such a person may not be as easy as you would think. One thing that we can all agree upon and appreciate, is the fact that fortunately this (NOVA) gunman was so inept that no one got hurt.

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