Ok, this is the big week for the Centreville vs Westfield Game. So, let's hear the bold predictions. I think Westfield rested up there starters vs Oakton in Fridays game. It's been a while since Centreville has beaten the Bulldogs. (The silence of Centreville fans has been truly enjoyable, too!) I'd have to say I don't see a Centerville win happening this time around either. Injuries can change everything during a game and if I remember correctly these 2 beat up each other pretty well.

Let the chatter begin and let's hope they meet again, deep into the playoffs!

Refer to the rivalry thread:
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/2002542

Head to Head Results:
2001 – Centreville, 10-7 / Inaugural game
2002 – Westfield, 21-14 / Sean Glennon 14-25, 204 yds, Eddie Royal 8 catches, 101 yds
2003 – Westfield, 38-14 / Evan Royster 23 carries 236 yds, 2 TDs
2004 – Westfield, 30-21 / Evan Royster 33 carries 198 yds, 2 TDs
2005 – Westfield, 34-31 / Evan Royster 37 carries 278 yds
2006 – Westfield, 27-7 / Mike Glennon 3 TD passes
2007 – Westfield, 33-0 / Mike Glennon 76 yd TD to Johnny Pickett on first play of game
2008 – Westfield, 58-40 / Danny Fenyak 14-25, 317 yds 5 TDs
2009 – Westfield, 24-7 / Bryan Monticue 30 yd TD run, Hayden Ferrington 19 TD catch
2010 – Westfield, 35-14 / Matt Pisarcik 2 TD passes, Kendall Anderson 2 TD rushes
2011 – Westfield, 13-10 / OT, Beau Donaue 4 yd TD fumble return, Manny Smith 167 yds rushing
2011 – Centreville 27-24 / Northern Region Championship, Connor Coward blocked FG, Ken Ekanem 2 passes broken up, interception, 4th qtr sack
2012 – Westfield 40-21 / Dalaun Richardson 274 yds rushing, 43, 91, 59 yd TDs
2013 – Centreville 28-0 / Taylor Boose 10 carries, 97 yds, Scott Walter 17 carries, 80 yds, Westfield 3 first downs
2013 – Centreville 35-14 / 6A North Region Championship, A.J. Turner 16 carries, 93 yds, Scott Walter 102 yds rushing, Taylor Boose 74 yds rushing
2014 – Westfield 42-41 / 2OT, Mason Scoville 2 TD runs in OT, Evan Gray 24 carries, 149 yds
2014 – Centreville 21-17 / 6A North Region Championship, A.J. Turner 19 carries, 140 yds, 98 yd KO return
2015 - Westfield 20-12 / Tyler Scanlon 17-26, 204 yds, 2 TDs
2016 - Westfield 35-0 / Rehman Johnson 7-13, 155 yds, 3 TDs

Overall Head to Head:
Westfield 14-5

Regular Season Head to Head:
Westfield 14-2

Playoff Head to Head:
Centreville 3-0

TCW lost 27-21 against Hayfield. Hayfield could have loss thanks to horrible play calling (being up 27-14, and going for a 1st on a 4th down on the 30ish yardline) of course TC scored off of it. Last 30 sec play on 4th down was an incomplete pass thanks to a Hayfield defender.

Next week TC takes out frustration on Edison, while the Gunston district champion game goes on an ancient revived rivalry against West Potomac at home. I honestly have no clue who will win. West Po has had a tougher schedule however that clearly didn't help with a crushing loss to Patriot and a downer against TC the week before. Of course, Hayfield is hayfield and lord knows that they could be up or down by 20 and flip the score in a quarter.

If West Po wins, then there could be a 3 way tie depending how MtV does against West Po or TCW. If Hayfield wins then they practically won as their only remaining opponent would be Annadale.

Wow, Westfield is dominant in the Regular season but Id take the 3-0 playoff record over that.

In reality, it should have been 2-1 Centreville in the playoffs. Centreville was by far the better team in 2013 and 2014 (and in the 2014 regular season game a lot of things went right for Westfield, I must admit). In 2012 the teams were all but dead even. In the regional championship Centreville was given two calls, one blatant and one confusing, that led directly to 10 Centreville points. The first was a defensive PI in the end zone. On that call I approached a group of head officials at the half who were there to supervise and watch the game (as they do every year for this game) to ask about the call. I asked why it was a PI. The supervisor of officials said, and I quote, "we were wondering that too". The other call was an alleged 4th down catch deep in Westfield territory where the ball clearly bounced on the ground and was scooped up. The official who made the call was behind the receiver and partially blocked from seeing the play but still overruled the others. It is what it is, the officials are human, and that's why we play the games. But don't be deceived by just the numbers.

In reality, it should have been 2-1 Centreville in the playoffs. Centreville was by far the better team in 2013 and 2014 (and in the 2014 regular season game a lot of things went right for Westfield, I must admit). In 2012 the teams were all but dead even. In the regional championship Centreville was given two calls, one blatant and one confusing, that led directly to 10 Centreville points. The first was a defensive PI in the end zone. On that call I approached a group of head officials at the half who were there to supervise and watch the game (as they do every year for this game) to ask about the call. I asked why it was a PI. The supervisor of officials said, and I quote, "we were wondering that too". The other call was an alleged 4th down catch deep in Westfield territory where the ball clearly bounced on the ground and was scooped up. The official who made the call was behind the receiver and partially blocked from seeing the play but still overruled the others. It is what it is, the officials are human, and that's why we play the games. But don't be deceived by just the numbers.

HS Football 2017 Wrote:
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> Wow, Westfield is dominant in the Regular season
> but Id take the 3-0 playoff record over that.

Are you nuts? If you knew knew how big this rivalry was you wouldn't be saying that. Swap 14 wins to negate 3 playoff losses in years where you already got to the region championship? No way. That's bragging rights for a whole year right there.

This thread must be dead if the troll won't even troll anymore.

goodluck to braddock when they play better passing teams, their best defensive back Hanifi is out for the season do to an arm injury

How did Freedom get so good so quickly? Hmmmm.

6A North has a history of undefeated regular season teams that take a major dump when they have to play the tougher teams. Let's see how that goes for Freedom.

What? They're still playing? Thought VHSL had already just declared the mighty Westfield Bulldogs state champs and saved the rest of the teams the embarrassment. Oh well, guess we'll have to take it out on those kittens at Centreville this weekend.

^^^^
Whew! There it is. Now all is back to normal.

Freedom will be welcome to the big leagues if and when they play some of the top tier teams from Fairfax. The competition in PWC is abysmal at best.

Freedom is so far above the rest of the teams in their bracket (Region C) they are a virtual lock to make it to the state semis where they will have to play someone like Westfield, Madison, Centreville, etc. They have one key ingredient that makes them extremely dangerous-the QB. If you don't manage to contain him on his option decisions he can run away from most teams. That said, I think a power game will give Freedom a lot of trouble, and that is exactly what type of team I expect to emerge from Region D.

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> goodluck to braddock when they play better passing
> teams, their best defensive back Hanifi is out for
> the season do to an arm injury


He is lazy and not even close to being the best DB on the team, so not a big loss

WHCXV Wrote:
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> Freedom is so far above the rest of the teams in
> their bracket (Region C) they are a virtual lock
> to make it to the state semis where they will have
> to play someone like Westfield, Madison,
> Centreville, etc. They have one key ingredient
> that makes them extremely dangerous-the QB. If you
> don't manage to contain him on his option
> decisions he can run away from most teams. That
> said, I think a power game will give Freedom a lot
> of trouble, and that is exactly what type of team
> I expect to emerge from Region D.
I'd say there defense as a whole is something teams will have to watch out for in the playoffs, anyone able to contain Ricky Slade deserves some credit

westfield haters - your day may finally be coming. westfield jv: tied by stonewall, blown out by patriot, just got spanked by centreville.

The correlation between this year's JV success and next year's varsity success is exactly ZERO!

And Westfield's freshman team is undefeated and winning by a margin of 30 points every week. None of this matters.

Better late than never... here are Friday's game this week

Annandale at Mount Vernon (Mount Vernon)
Brooke Point at North Stafford (idk)
C.D. Hylton at Battlefield (I want to say Hylton, but who knows)
Falls Church at Wakefield (Falls Church)
Forest Park at Gar-Field (Forest Park? idk)
Freedom-South Riding at Broad Run (idk who FSR is, going with Broad Run regardless)
Freedom-Woodbridge at Potomac (The outta knowheres at Freedom take it)
Herndon at Yorktown (Good ol' Yorky)
John Champe at Rock Ridge (Champe)
Lake Braddock at Fairfax (Bruiners)
Marshall at R.E. Lee (... Hmmm..... Going with Lee for upset cuz why not)
Massaponax at Stafford (Massaponax and their marching band)
McLean at South Lakes (Seattle Seahawk Lakers)
Mountain View at Riverbend (idk)
Oakton at Chantilly (Oakton)
Osbourn at Patriot (Patriot)
Potomac Falls at Briar Woods (Both are little bit down, BW more so, so Potomac Falls)
Robinson at South County (No fucking clue, picking ROBO)
Stone Bridge at Tuscarora (Stone bridge)
Stonewall Jackson at Osbourn Park (Jackson)
Thomas Jefferson at J.E.B. Stuart (JEBBY)
Washington-Lee at Langley (W&L)
West Potomac at Hayfield (..... No clue, slight odds for hawkies)
West Springfield at W.T. Woodson (AHHHHHHH)
Westfield at Centreville (My brain says Westfield, my gut says Centreville, I'm also hungry, so westfield)
Woodbridge at Colgan (Idk colgate)

Saturday:

Edison at TC Williams (Denzel Washington)

Bye:

James Madison (Madison with the upset)

**Copied from Virginia prep forums**

What are your guys' predictions this week?

Westfield over Centreville by 50 points. No one cares about any other game. Sorry, that's the truth. 99.5% of the peeps here follow HS football because they either love Westfield or hate Westfield. But it's all about The Westfield. Never forget that chumley.

Baloney Wrote:
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> And Westfield's freshman team is undefeated and
> winning by a margin of 30 points every week. None
> of this matters.

it matters. the last two years westfield jv has been mediocre at best. that will catch up with them. no depth.

Hayfield just made a complete 360 from that Robinson game.... 42-7 over West Potomac near the end of the game.... A few minutes left.

Not entirely surprised from their win, but surprised with their score seeing how West Po usually handles spread teams.

Well... Wrote:
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> Hayfield just made a complete 360 from that
> Robinson game.... 42-7 over West Potomac near the
> end of the game.... A few minutes left.
>
> Not entirely surprised from their win, but
> surprised with their score seeing how West Po
> usually handles spread teams.


Correction, 33-14 near the end (MaxPreps as finicky as usual). Still, a surprising defeat for the Wolverines.

Well...(2) Wrote:
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> Well... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hayfield just made a complete 360 from that
> > Robinson game.... 42-7 over West Potomac near
> the
> > end of the game.... A few minutes left.
> >
> > Not entirely surprised from their win, but
> > surprised with their score seeing how West Po
> > usually handles spread teams.
>
>
> Correction, 33-14 near the end (MaxPreps as
> finicky as usual). Still, a surprising defeat for
> the Wolverines.


At this point I'm kind of just keeping it alive.... there is about 10 minutes left, 33-15 for Hayfield vs West Po.

Westfield up 27-11 with a few minutes to go. Not surprised, but I was hoping for an upset.

Stonebridge won in a close physical match, 14-13 over Tuscarora. Honestly I would consider this a draw by mere luck of a missed extra point. Still, good for them for remaining undefeated!

FreedomW once again owning a bad team. (I like them, I do, but I think people are severely overestimating by pure shock value of their rather arbitrary outstanding season). They're not vetted yet.

South County owned, and disowned Robinson 45-14.

I'm sure they still fear the cavaliers

Well...(3) Wrote:
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> Well...(2) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hayfield just made a complete 360 from that
> > > Robinson game.... 42-7 over West Potomac near
> > the
> > > end of the game.... A few minutes left.
> > >
> > > Not entirely surprised from their win, but
> > > surprised with their score seeing how West Po
> > > usually handles spread teams.
> >
> >
> > Correction, 33-14 near the end (MaxPreps as
> > finicky as usual). Still, a surprising defeat
> for
> > the Wolverines.
>
>
> At this point I'm kind of just keeping it
> alive.... there is about 10 minutes left, 33-15
> for Hayfield vs West Po.
>
> Westfield up 27-11 with a few minutes to go. Not
> surprised, but I was hoping for an upset.
>
> Stonebridge won in a close physical match, 14-13
> over Tuscarora. Honestly I would consider this a
> draw by mere luck of a missed extra point. Still,
> good for them for remaining undefeated!
>
> FreedomW once again owning a bad team. (I like
> them, I do, but I think people are severely
> overestimating by pure shock value of their rather
> arbitrary outstanding season). They're not vetted
> yet.
Honesyly what makes Westfield so good?

But why? Wrote:
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> Honesyly what makes Westfield so good?

Coaching. End of story.

Well...(3) Wrote:
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>
> At this point I'm kind of just keeping it
> alive.... there is about 10 minutes left, 33-15
> for Hayfield vs West Po.


Final Hayfield 40 West Pot 30

Well... Wrote:
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> Hayfield just made a complete 360 from that
> Robinson game.... 42-7 over West Potomac near the
> end of the game.... A few minutes left.
>
> Not entirely surprised from their win, but
> surprised with their score seeing how West Po
> usually handles spread teams.


In all fairness, the Hayfield coach got pissed and ran the entire team for 45 mins before they got out the bus to Robinson. So they were done before they ever got to the game. When evaluating both teams, you really need to throw that game out.

Doc and Bruins win another!

That's 5 in row and they are getting hot at the right time, just in time for the playoffs.

So now for all of you naysayers, Doc has turned this program around and got them on the winning track.Now you can clearly see why the people on the board were all saying this is the best staff in the state!

The region better watch out because the Bruins have you in their sights.

One team one heartbeat

Big1ntheno Wrote:
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> So now for all of you naysayers, Doc has turned
> this program around

Excuse me. WHY did the program need "turning around?" LB won 10+ games the last 5 years in a row. This year is going to put an end to that. First 0-3 start in 13 years.

> Now you can clearly see why the people on
> the board were all saying this is the best staff
> in the state!

Yes, we can see that the record of their first 3 opponents is 20-4. The record of their last 5 opponents is 20-20. Obvious is obvious.

LB is on a roll, I m sure those first 3 opponents would not want to see the Bruins now.

Go ahead and sleep on the LB, I dare you!

Should Curry be fired at Chantilly? They will most likely finish 0-10.

No - Curry needs at least three years to build up a team. He turned around his LC school in just one year. Sophomores are starting. More will come out. He is disciplined, hard working and has great ties with the community. The last time CHS lost all games, they were in the state championship game the following year.

TBT Wrote:
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> No - Curry needs at least three years to build up
> a team. He turned around his LC school in just one
> year. Sophomores are starting. More will come out.
> He is disciplined, hard working and has great ties
> with the community. The last time CHS lost all
> games, they were in the state championship game
> the following year.


They had a tough schedule, no doubt, but they better go at least 4-6 next year if the coach wants to stay, because 0-10 with an opportunity against 4 scrub schools is unacceptable.

PurplePride Wrote:
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> Should Curry be fired at Chantilly? They will most
> likely finish 0-10.

It’s Tilly what do u all expect...? Look at the demographics of that school. Also look at the youth (CYA) program, it’s a hot mess run by a racist a-hole (their numbers are steadily declining)3-7 or 4-6 is a good season for them to think they’ll ever be in states again is absurd.

Do kids have a choice about what youth club they play for? If CYA is so bad, can’t they play for another group? Where do Centreville and Westfield students develop? Geographically all three HS are so close and of course were once all Chantilly.

CYA, kids don’t come back because majority of their coaches are jerks who just yell and have no clue or they play for SYA or VYI.

Be 4 real Wrote:
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> PurplePride Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Should Curry be fired at Chantilly? They will
> most
> > likely finish 0-10.
>
> It’s Tilly what do u all expect...? Look at the
> demographics of that school. Also look at the
> youth (CYA) program, it’s a hot mess run by a
> racist a-hole (their numbers are steadily
> declining)3-7 or 4-6 is a good season for them to
> think they’ll ever be in states again is absurd.

No. Curry needs a chance - give him a couple of years. He's really a great guy, has all the local connections and I think everyone respects him. Just came into a bad situation.

Demographics? Pretty much the same as Centreville and Westfield. What are you talking about?

CYA - you might have a point there but that comment you made is way out of line and wrong.

TBT Wrote:
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> Do kids have a choice about what youth club they
> play for? If CYA is so bad, can’t they play for
> another group? Where do Centreville and Westfield
> students develop? Geographically all three HS are
> so close and of course were once all Chantilly.


Both are fed by SYA. American conference is where the varsity players are bred. Central is the benchwarmers. National is the guys who will play freshmen and then wash out. Exceptions apply to all these conferences of course.

Complete BS.

A lot depends on weight class and level. I have seen a ton of boys come off Central and start. My son played central and is starting varsity in his Sophmore year.

And for those who like to bitch about coaches, shut up or volunteer to coach yourself.

BTW. The racist moniker has last all effect, since it is the generic fallback to those who don't have a good argument.


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> TBT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do kids have a choice about what youth club
> they
> > play for? If CYA is so bad, can’t they play
> for
> > another group? Where do Centreville and
> Westfield
> > students develop? Geographically all three HS
> are
> > so close and of course were once all Chantilly.
>
>
> Both are fed by SYA. American conference is where
> the varsity players are bred. Central is the
> benchwarmers. National is the guys who will play
> freshmen and then wash out. Exceptions apply to
> all these conferences of course.

Can one of you guys who understands the system give an update on the playoff standings, going into week 9? I'm sure it's pretty easy to some of you, but it really cuts into my bourbon time.

Can Anyone confirm that Freedom HS is being investigating for using “more than a few” players from Stafford county? Could shake things up if it is true and they have to forfeit games.

I heard the same thing about Hayfield. There were 3 players all brothers/siblings who are no longer on the team as of this past friday. Seems like they did not live in the school district. To make matters worse it was the same 3 kids who left the school during last basketball season for PG county. Now I am hearing the hawks might have to forfeit the 5 victories that the players participated in. Anyone with more information on this? Something smells fishy.

Week Virginia High School League Page 11 of 14
2017 - 2018 Top Twenty Ranking Teams per Region
Region 5C
High School Won Lost Tied Won Lost Tied Rating
---------VHSL-------- -------District-------
Group Region District
Stone Bridge 5 5C Potomac 8 0 0 5 0 0 32.50000
Broad Run 5 5C Potomac 8 0 0 5 0 0 31.75000
Champe, John 5 5C Potomac 6 2 0 3 2 0 28.25000
Falls Church 5 5C National 6 3 0 3 0 0 27.66667
Tuscarora 5 5C Potomac 6 2 0 3 2 0 27.25000
Potomac Falls 5 5C Potomac 4 4 0 2 3 0 23.12500
Lee, R.E. (S) 5 5C National 3 6 0 3 2 0 21.77778
Edison, Thomas 5 5C National 3 5 0 2 2 0 21.75000
Wakefield 5 5C National 2 5 0 0 3 0 21.14286
Rock Ridge 5 5C Potomac 1 7 0 0 5 0 19.62500
Briar Woods 5 5C Potomac 1 7 0 1 4 0 19.00000
Freedom (LC) 5 5C Potomac 1 7 0 1 4 0 18.00000
Jefferson, Tho. (A) 5 5C National 0 6 0 0 3 0 15.33333



Week Virginia High School League Page 13 of 14
2017 - 2018 Top Twenty Ranking Teams per Region
Region 6C
High School Won Lost Tied Won Lost Tied Rating
---------VHSL-------- -------District-------
Group Region District
Freedom (PW) 6 6C Cardinal 8 0 0 4 0 0 33.25000
Mount Vernon 6 6C Gunston 7 1 0 1 0 0 30.25000
Woodbridge 6 6C Cardinal 7 1 0 3 1 0 30.25000
Hayfield 6 6C Gunston 6 2 0 2 0 0 29.50000
Lake Braddock 6 6C Patriot 5 3 0 3 0 0 29.00000
Hylton, C.D. 6 6C Cardinal 6 2 0 3 1 0 28.75000
South County 6 6C Patriot 4 4 0 2 1 0 27.00000
Williams, T.C. 6 6C Gunston 5 3 0 1 1 0 26.50000
Woodson, W. T. 6 6C Patriot 4 4 0 2 1 0 26.00000
West Springfield 6 6C Patriot 5 3 0 1 2 0 25.75000
Robinson, James 6 6C Patriot 4 4 0 1 2 0 25.50000
West Potomac 6 6C Gunston 4 4 0 1 2 0 25.12500
Annandale 6 6C Gunston 3 5 0 0 2 0 23.87500
Forest Park 6 6C Cardinal 3 5 0 2 2 0 23.62500
Stuart, J.E.B. 6 6C National 4 4 0 2 2 0 23.25000
Fairfax 6 6C Patriot 3 5 0 0 3 0 23.25000
Colgan, Charles 6 6C Cardinal 2 6 0 1 4 0 21.25000
Gar-Field 6 6C Cardinal 0 8 0 0 4 0 17.00000
Updated on: 10/24/2017 9:36:26 AM




Week Virginia High School League Page 14 of 14
2017 - 2018 Top Twenty Ranking Teams per Region
Region 6D
High School Won Lost Tied Won Lost Tied Rating
---------VHSL-------- -------District-------
Group Region District
Westfield 6 6D Concorde 8 0 0 3 0 0 35.25000
Marshall, George 6 6D National 7 1 0 2 0 0 31.00000
Centreville 6 6D Concorde 6 2 0 1 1 0 30.50000
South Lakes 6 6D Liberty 7 1 0 3 0 0 30.00000
Madison, James 6 6D Concorde 6 2 0 1 1 0 29.75000
Patriot 6 6D Cedar Run 6 2 0 2 0 0 29.50000
Yorktown 6 6D Liberty 7 1 0 3 0 0 28.62500
Battlefield 6 6D Cedar Run 6 2 0 2 0 0 27.12500
Jackson, Stonewall (M) 3 6 0 2 1 0 23.22222 6 6D Cedar Run
Herndon 6 6D Liberty 3 5 0 1 2 0 22.12500
Oakton 6 6D Concorde 2 6 0 1 2 0 21.87500
Osbourn Park 6 6D Cedar Run 2 6 0 0 2 0 21.37500
Osbourn 6 6D Cedar Run 1 7 0 0 3 0 20.75000
Langley 6 6D Liberty 1 7 0 1 2 0 20.12500
Washington-Lee 6 6D Liberty 1 7 0 1 2 0 20.12500
McLean 6 6D Liberty 0 8 0 0 3 0 18.87500
Chantilly 6 6D Concorde 0 8 0 0 2 0 18.75000
Updated on: 10/24/2017 9:36:26 AM

erab609 Wrote:
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> I heard the same thing about Hayfield. There were
> 3 players all brothers/siblings who are no longer
> on the team as of this past friday. Seems like
> they did not live in the school district. To make
> matters worse it was the same 3 kids who left the
> school during last basketball season for PG
> county. Now I am hearing the hawks might have to
> forfeit the 5 victories that the players
> participated in. Anyone with more information on
> this? Something smells fishy.

I actually know the family, they all live in VA under Hayfield's district. They had a family issue that had to be dealt with. I'm pretty sure they live somewhere in Lorton.

Nerds Needed Wrote:
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> Can one of you guys who understands the system
> give an update on the playoff standings, going
> into week 9? I'm sure it's pretty easy to some of
> you, but it really cuts into my bourbon time.


Sure bro:

There's Westfield and then there's everyone who Westfield is going to beat.

I believe the kids are in school in PG County so they must not live in Lorton. If they did live in Lorton then they would be playing at Hayfield.

comrad35 Wrote:
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> I believe the kids are in school in PG County so
> they must not live in Lorton. If they did live in
> Lorton then they would be playing at Hayfield.

If they lived in Lorton they would be going to South County.

notcomrad35 Wrote:
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> comrad35 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > I believe the kids are in school in PG County
> so
> > they must not live in Lorton. If they did live
> in
> > Lorton then they would be playing at Hayfield.
>
> If they lived in Lorton they would be going to
> South County.

Lorton is split between Hayfield and SOCO. They do not live in PG because all of them have been attending Hayfield since middle school.

Can we agree it's an absolute joke that Marshall could possibly be the number 2 seed? They have the easiest schedule I have ever seen.They play no one good. When Marshall actually played a good team, Madison, they got absolutely worked. Madison had all their JV kids playing the second half and they still looked better than Marshall. It's a strange world we live in when you would rather play the number 2 seed instead of the 8 seed.

Boiii Wrote:
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> notcomrad35 Wrote:
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> > comrad35 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I believe the kids are in school in PG County
> > so
> > > they must not live in Lorton. If they did
> live
> > in
> > > Lorton then they would be playing at
> Hayfield.
> >
> > If they lived in Lorton they would be going to
> > South County.
>
> Lorton is split between Hayfield and SOCO. They do
> not live in PG because all of them have been
> attending Hayfield since middle school.


Have been and are attending are different. They went to school in PG for the second half of last school year. They do not go to Hayfield now or Soco.

So Co blows. You got caught and turned in for cheating during summer by fairfax coach. As usual, nothing happened. Stop hating on our coach when Ya'lls is way worse

LOL Marshall Wrote:
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> Can we agree it's an absolute joke that Marshall
> could possibly be the number 2 seed? They have the
> easiest schedule I have ever seen.They play no one
> good. When Marshall actually played a good team,
> Madison, they got absolutely worked. Madison had
> all their JV kids playing the second half and they
> still looked better than Marshall. It's a strange
> world we live in when you would rather play the
> number 2 seed instead of the 8 seed.

It's honestly cringeworthy. Is Marshall having an up year? Sure. As you said though, literally anyone else who qualifies in both brackets would beat Marshall handily. And, the funny thing is that, if #7 remains the same and they stay in #2 they'd play the other worst team in that bracket, that dag on Yorktown.... I think Yorktown could take'em, but that's literally their best opponent they can hope for the first round. If they do win that, they're getting curbstomped.

LOL Marshall Wrote:
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> Can we agree it's an absolute joke that Marshall
> could possibly be the number 2 seed?

The answer is YES. Beyond absurd. How is this even possible?

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> LOL Marshall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Can we agree it's an absolute joke that
> Marshall
> > could possibly be the number 2 seed?
>
> The answer is YES. Beyond absurd. How is this
> even possible?

I guess literally being the only 6A team to have a conference only with the worst 5A teams in the area is an accomplishment.

Anyone in the Gunston district would beat them: I'd take a good day Annadale to beat Marshall instead of losing by 1-point in a shootout, and the other four (TCW, MtVernon, Hayfield and West Po) would show them what average 6A, and somewhat above average 6A teams would do to them are capable of over a "good year" team who play people who would be even more luckier than Marshall to qualify for their own playoffs.

I know it's somewhat early, what are the chances that will get a Westfield vs Oscar Smith III for the state final?

WFvsOS Wrote:
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> I know it's somewhat early, what are the chances
> that will get a Westfield vs Oscar Smith III for
> the state final?

I would the rate the chances as 12.5% or 1/8.

Oscar Smith will likely have to get past Colonial Forge which is not a certainty at all. Westfield is very good but not dominant and while they will be a favorite in any game in the post-season they have upset written all over them. Just a matter of which round.

Don't sleep on Freefom, Westfield is great but so is Freedom

Freedom recruits. It's comical how so many folks know in Stafford and PWC.

Stone Bridge recruits. It's comical how so many folks know Statewide.

Why doesn't FCPS care if the kids live in a Fairfax County instead of just the football district. When I go to pick up my kids from practice I see many Maryland cars. Who in the school makes sure that the kids live in a Fairfax county?

Don't sleep on Lake Braddock they have coach Doc and 6 straight wins

Stone Bridge is like the cheating Madison baseball program! All they do is recruit! And like the cheating Warhawk baseball team, neither can win the big games!

Prove it! Those kids are all in district multi-sport athletes. I call bull@#$* ! ! !

VerifyingT Wrote:
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> Why doesn't FCPS care if the kids live in a
> Fairfax County instead of just the football
> district. When I go to pick up my kids from
> practice I see many Maryland cars. Who in the
> school makes sure that the kids live in a Fairfax
> county?

Yeah. MD plates mean nothing. I have neighbors that have had MD plates for several years. And NY and NJ.

Is Albert Mensah healthy? Did he play this past Friday’s game?

WP listed him as out with an injury. Will he be available for playoffs, with out him don’t like SL’s chances to go as far as they did last year.

Can we all agree that the Westfield Bulldogs could beat the Cleveland Browns and Washington Redskins? Yes, the Bulldogs are that good!

Re: Loudoun High School Football!
Posted by: Loudoun County Football Fan ()
Date: September 14, 2017 07:02PM

It really is the best football around.

You heard it here first.

Broad Run and Stone Bridge will each be 9-0 when they play each other in the last game of the season.

Says a lot about Ashburn football!

Stone Bridge does cheat.
Stole Block from Briar Woods - torn ACL.
Stole Nall from Atlee. He didn't play last week. Wonder if he is hurt or just resting.

Edison and Lee play this week with winner going to the playoffs and loser going home. Kinda cool, in a retarded sort of way, but still cool.
Winner then gets beat by 50 by Loudoun team.

Not that you care, but... Wrote:
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> Edison and Lee play this week with winner going to
> the playoffs and loser going home. Kinda cool, in
> a retarded sort of way, but still cool.
> Winner then gets beat by 50 by Loudoun team.

It's always cool to make the playoffs.

What happens with a centreville win or lost to Madison? How will their seeding change? Do the jump to 2 with a win and how far will they fall with a lost?

From the discussions I have seen (vapreps, etc.), unless something really weird happens with the strength of schedule pts in the VHSL power ratings, the winner is the #3 seed and the loser the #6 seed. The game ends up being the rights to home field for the #3/#6 playoff game the following week.

South Lakes maybe just a little too far ahead in #2 position unless all their past opponents lose this week (or they lose to Herndon...heh...sure..) and all of Madison or Centreville's win. Westfield is a lock in #1

Thoughts?

Stuart vs Falls Church (-21)
-Battle for Falls Church!! Stuart will win but both would probably lose to Mason


Marshall (-17) vs Wakefield
-Marshall easy win


Chantilly vs Westfield (-28)
-Battle for Chantilly!! Won't be much of a battle.


TC Williams (-10) vs Annandale
- TC wins and covers


Madison vs Centreville (-1)
Game of the Week, taken C-Ville.


Mt. Vernon (-10) vs West Potomac
-Taken Vernon


South County (-3) vs Lake Braddock
Tough one, I'll take South County?


Robinson (-7) vs West Springfield
Tough one, I'll take Robinson?


Herndon vs. South Lakes (-42)
Battle for Baron Cameron!! Won't be much of a battle.


Yorktown (-14) vs W&L
Battle for Arlington!! Taken Y-Town by a couple scores.

Langley (-14) vs McLean
Battle of McLean!!! Who really cares?


Fairfax vs Woodson (-10)
Taken Woodson but good for Fairfax for a much better season


Hayfield (-10) vs. Oakton
Cobbs to outrun Cougars

Stonebridge (-10) vs. Broad Run
-Battle for Ashburn and Game of the Year for Loudon. Stonebridge for the Win, might not cover though.

Stuart vs Falls Church (-20.0)
Marshall (-21.0) vs Wakefield
Chantilly vs Westfield (-35.0)
TC Williams (-20.0) vs Annandale
Madison (-1.0) vs Centreville
Mt. Vernon vs West Potomac (-7.0)
South County (-14.0) vs Lake Braddock
Robinson (-10.0) vs West Springfield
Herndon vs. South Lakes (-48.0)
Yorktown (-20.0) vs W&L
Langley (-14.0) vs McLean
Fairfax vs Woodson (-14.0)
Hayfield (-7.0) vs. Oakton

As expected, Westfield destroyed Chantilly, but you heard it here first, Westfield won't make it out of the region. When Chantilly went into a formation with an unbalanced line, 3 blocking backs and a running back in wildcat, Chantilly drove the ball at will. Used the formation for two drives, both against Westfield's starters, and both times drove the ball the length of the field on 7+ minute drives, one time for a TD, one time being stopped on 4th down on the 15. Your 6A north region champ will NOT be Westfield.

Playoff games next week. Gathered from VApreps.

Occoquan Matchups
8. South County @ 1. Freedom (PW)
7. Mount Vernon @ 2. Woodbridge
6. T.C. Williams @ 3. Lake Braddock
5. C.D. Hylton @ 4. Hayfield

Northern Matchups
8. Battlefield @ 1. Westfield
7. Yorktown @ 2. South Lakes
6. Madison @ 3. Centreville
5. Patriot @ 4. Marshall

Rowley at Oakton should be fired. The staff is terrible. We need fresh bloood.

HSFballfan1 Wrote:
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> As expected, Westfield destroyed Chantilly, but
> you heard it here first, Westfield won't make it
> out of the region. When Chantilly went into a
> formation with an unbalanced line, 3 blocking
> backs and a running back in wildcat, Chantilly
> drove the ball at will. Used the formation for two
> drives, both against Westfield's starters, and
> both times drove the ball the length of the field
> on 7+ minute drives, one time for a TD, one time
> being stopped on 4th down on the 15. Your 6A north
> region champ will NOT be Westfield.


Posts like this show why the mighty Westfield Bulldogs continue to confound the lessers around here. If Westfield's D struggles, the offense will kick it up 3 gears. If the O is struggling, the D will clamp down their opponent like the 1985 Shitcago Bears.

Westfield had this game well in hand before the season even started. At this point, the only thing that can beat Westfield is Westfield.

HSFballfan1 Wrote:
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> As expected, Westfield destroyed Chantilly, but
> you heard it here first, Westfield won't make it
> out of the region. When Chantilly went into a
> formation with an unbalanced line, 3 blocking
> backs and a running back in wildcat, Chantilly
> drove the ball at will. Used the formation for two
> drives, both against Westfield's starters, and
> both times drove the ball the length of the field
> on 7+ minute drives, one time for a TD, one time
> being stopped on 4th down on the 15. Your 6A north
> region champ will NOT be Westfield.

SO, a couple drives which resulted in a total of 7 points makes you think the Bulldogs are prime for an upset? They might lose at some point, true, because that's how it goes but your analogy is flawed. Westfield had previously held two of the better rushing teams in the region, Centreville and Madison, to pedestrian results.

Plus, I guess you forgot about the 46 points they hung on Chantilly. Westfield has an offense that is more than capable of outscoring whomever it is they will face in the postseason. Plus, they have a staff that is probably one of the best in the state that's shown it can coach better than anyone in the postseason.

That wasn't football anyway - that was rugby.

Do not dare question the omniscience of Westfield football especially just as I break out the jar of Vaseline again.

cjv3k Wrote:
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> That wasn't football anyway - that was rugby.


If the 'dawgs gots to put a beatdown on you, they will. Hope Oscar Smith remembers that in a few weeks. THE BULLDOG BEATDOWN!!!!!! No team can withstand it.

Gotta be rough being a Westfield-hating troll year after year. They are down this year but so is everyone else. No one stepped up and took advantage. 10-0. AGain. But every playoff game for Westfield will be dogfight to the end. They are not winning any playoff games by more than 10 points. Battlefield is good enough to take them down in round 1.

bring on those niggers from Oscar Smith!
Bulldogs all the way!

don't get too carried away, buddy. Neither Westfield or Oscar Smith has one a playoff game yet.

hold your horses Wrote:
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> don't get too carried away, buddy. Neither
> Westfield or Oscar Smith has one a playoff game
> yet.

I don't think either of them make it. Oscar got beat by a 4A school last night.

eagenisking Wrote:
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> Rowley at Oakton should be fired. The staff is
> terrible. We need fresh bloood.

True, but he should still remain as a coach just not the head coach, he's to soft when i was there the weight room was always empty never forced us to go we were always the slowest, weakest team

Freedom Vs South County should be a interesting game, will South countys D be able to stop AJ Felton

BETGB Wrote:
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> hold your horses Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > don't get too carried away, buddy. Neither
> > Westfield or Oscar Smith has one a playoff game
> > yet.
>
> I don't think either of them make it. Oscar got
> beat by a 4A school last night.


I forgive you both for your lack of faith.

Oakton rich kids are soft!! Madison is the new king of Viennna!

Woof! Wrote:
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> cjv3k Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That wasn't football anyway - that was rugby.
>
>
> If the 'dawgs gots to put a beatdown on you, they
> will. Hope Oscar Smith remembers that in a few
> weeks. THE BULLDOG BEATDOWN!!!!!! No team can
> withstand it.


Beating a team with 25% fewer players by a touchdown and taking double overtime a beat down shows just how ignorant you are. When in reality The Tiger's are the team you fear most.

Good luck getting to Hampton inn December.

Anyone know the 5A bracket

Concorde kid Wrote:
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> Oakton rich kids are soft!! Madison is the new
> king of Viennna!

Hope you enjoyed your little run, after this year MHS will be back getting owned by OHS and the rest. There’s no talent at your JV or FR levels.

Btw how was the 31-7 drubbing last night? Expect more of the same this coming week only this time it will hurt worse as you get sent home from playoffs and your season is over. 1&done!

5A FB Wrote:
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> Anyone know the 5A bracket

Since this is a NOVA site, I assume you meant 5C:

1. Stone Bridge (344) 34.40
2. Broad Run (316) 31.60
3. Tuscarora (301) 30.10
4. Champe (285) 28.50
5. Falls Church (284) 28.40
6. Potomac Falls (243) 24.30
7. Wakefield (213) 23.67
8. Lee, R.E. (S) (234) 23.40

1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 4 v 5 Most likely all blow outs and all LC teams after the first round.

HS Football 2017 Wrote:
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>
> Beating a team with 25% fewer players by a
> touchdown

Here we go again. Can we just once and for all forget about attendance as being very relevant to the success of a football program.

^^^^
This constant theme that a big school can never ever get any credit for beating a smaller school is tiresome. Oh, a smaller school can brag endlessly if they beat a school with a higher attendance. If they lose... no credit to the larger school - they should have won anyway.

IT ISN'T THAT SIMPLE.

Page 10 should be started by a Westfield suppoter, don't ya think?