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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Natashadahlink ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:43PM

If we all eat a large deep dish pepperoni pizza, aim at the sky, and fart in unison, maybe we can bring one of them down.

Failing that, we should pass a hat. Take up a collection. Make it worth Uncle Vladimir's while to have his Northern AF fly a PAKFA over the pole and blow the pantywaist sissies out of the sky.

Hey FBI weiner dogs ... McDonalds is always hiring.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:50PM

Ugh...this is unconstitutional. If the Country is under red alert terrorism status or something then we could understand the need. We're getting 12-hrs+ plus per day coverage since July sometime and into the wee hours of the morning. We've had a few rainy days off but this is nuts.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: j7cEh ()
Date: September 25, 2015 01:32AM

LOUD tonight.

Land that fucking thing.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: September 25, 2015 12:46PM

When was the first mention of this aircraft on FFU?
thinking it started late July but this "AGAIN" thread starts Aug 25.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Its not ()
Date: September 25, 2015 06:37PM

Pee Ode Wrote:
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> Ugh...this is unconstitutional. If the Country is
> under red alert terrorism status or something then
> we could understand the need. We're getting
> 12-hrs+ plus per day coverage since July sometime
> and into the wee hours of the morning. We've had a
> few rainy days off but this is nuts.


Its actually not unconstitutional

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: September 25, 2015 07:36PM

Not yet you mean

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: UnHYw ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:11PM

Pee Ode Wrote:
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> Not yet you mean


Or as far as we know anyway.

If it's targeted to a specific individual(s) then that that passes.

But a lot of the broader, non-targeted surveillance stuff was shot down by the court not long ago. I think that applies even if it's captured inadvertently in the course of a more targeted effort.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Rolling ValleyGirl ()
Date: September 25, 2015 09:34PM

I was home today.
Loud as all heck when the plane flew nearby.


How do they get away with that shI*t?



> surveillance stuff was shot down by the court not
> long ago. I think that applies even if it's
> captured inadvertently in the course of a more
> targeted effort.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: ...in the 22039 ()
Date: September 25, 2015 09:49PM

4 gray jets flew over about 2 in the afternoon, probably about 2k ft altitude. Low, and not incredibly fast for fighter jets.

Headed west, FWIW.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: jimbobduggar ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:13PM

10:00 PM, right on time. So since these planes aren't being used for mass data surveillance, is it safe to assume that there's a terrorist cell in Burke?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Maybe so ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:49PM

I'm starting to think so but this is getting ridiculous. Don't they know they are being watched by now c'mon this needs to stop already. I don't doubt there is one here there use to be one in Annandale.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: September 25, 2015 11:58PM

...we can only hope it's a specific target in Burke. Maybe Burke is just a convenient air space to park the planes until they are needed in an actual situation in the DC metro area.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Curious.. ()
Date: September 26, 2015 01:43AM

So are they not showing up on flight radar websites and apps anymore??

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 26, 2015 03:59AM

The FBI is probably monitoring this thread, and any other message board where people complain about their aircraft.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: fnk1236 ()
Date: September 26, 2015 09:46AM

eesh Wrote:
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> The FBI is probably monitoring this thread, and
> any other message board where people complain
> about their aircraft.


...so?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: icthem2 ()
Date: September 26, 2015 09:59AM

Not to worryy. They are following up on Jennifer Takaoka snitch leads. She's really running her mouth trying to get out of jail.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Burke Resident ()
Date: September 26, 2015 10:32AM

US Rep Gerry Connolly's office is aware of this thread and they are the ones interfacing with FBI (who will neither confirm or deny anything) so who cares?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: September 27, 2015 04:10AM

I hope that you are not depending upon Connolly's office for any type of assistance!

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: GET_THAT_ISIS ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:33PM

Great, at the peak of the lunar eclipse right now there is a f-ing helicopter circling very low near the Burke Target. I don't see any police spot light.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: GET_THAT_ISIS ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:41PM

Around and around we go with a loud helicopter:

Aircraft(B407)
Bell 429 GlobalRanger
Registration(N212FX)

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: PeeOde ()
Date: September 28, 2015 08:42AM

Was it just the FFx county helicopter?
Too cloudy to see lunar eclipse but the copter was flying low, which was a bit strange sight at 10:30.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: September 28, 2015 08:55PM

Keep posting the pictures of their flight tracks!

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Uncle Vlad ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:45PM

Planes have not been flying the last few nights. Maybe they finally made their move and arrested this guy? Maybe they realized he was a little Muslim kid building s clock? Who knows.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: random personaaaaaa ()
Date: October 05, 2015 09:26PM

HERE IS A CESSNA, CIRCLING BURKE NOW

http://www.flightradar24.com/N728MP/79ef88f

I happen to hear a fairfax county helicopter right now too up high in the sky.... dont see that one on flight radar though.. .strange
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: random personaaaaaa ()
Date: October 05, 2015 09:42PM

Oh also they are pretty clearly circling Lake Braddock High School. If I were a parent there I would be concerned.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Kidding me ()
Date: October 05, 2015 10:19PM

You got to be Kidding me! This is past ridiculous.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Les Pee Ode ()
Date: October 06, 2015 01:26AM

Thankfully I have not heard them much at all since the day the Pope left Philly to go home. Of course it's been mostly cloudy last couple weeks. Radar track above is interesting though.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: gopsmv ()
Date: October 06, 2015 01:31PM

Too bad you happen to live in the same neighborhood as the local iSIS cell---Maybe you should consider getting out while you can, since the gubt seems to love them eenough to want to keep them here.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: BackNow ()
Date: October 06, 2015 04:25PM

Back up again now.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Ivankatrump ()
Date: October 06, 2015 08:14PM

Been up all day today with one plane in the afternoon and another just now coming in to replace. Easily the loudest it's been.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: This is nuts ()
Date: October 06, 2015 09:58PM

This has got to stop! There needs to be laws about this. You are right it is flying low tonight.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: WTF, over? ()
Date: October 06, 2015 10:00PM

How is this legal? Where are the local elected officials? Surely there are plenty of Feds living in the area that have to hear this crap, too. Where's the media coverage?
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Jason Bourne ()
Date: October 06, 2015 10:24PM

I'm in the process of contacting WJLA. Maybe if enough people contact them about it they'll do a story?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Trackin ()
Date: October 06, 2015 11:05PM

Are they actually going to land at Dulles?
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 07, 2015 12:41PM

...it was a little bad last nite but we not are getting the 12-hr daily coverage until the wee hours like the Aug/Sept period.

There seems to be just about zero sympathy in the public or press for Burke's plight, and of course there is no such thing as the mayor of Burke to represent the town.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: heymack ()
Date: October 07, 2015 12:57PM

Bored pilot draws penis on FlightRadar24

http://mashable.com/2015/03/13/flight-radar-penis/#7KoaEx..XqqC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2015 12:57PM by heymack.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: 148irtfd.gd- ()
Date: October 07, 2015 07:21PM

Where are the local mosques located in relation to the surveillance aircrafts?
You are unlucky enough to live near one, or if your neighborhood has a few isis cells, youre screwed for sure--just get used tpo the noise.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Constant surveillance ()
Date: October 07, 2015 07:22PM

Minnesota public radio did a piece on this:
http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2015/05/mysterious-plane-has-an-eye-on-the-twin-cities/

There's also a legit evening news video from Minneapolis somewhere online.

FBI acknowledged it and is above the law. And our heads. I see nothing changing soon.

Current radar:
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Constant surveillance ()
Date: October 07, 2015 07:23PM

Oh, it's not circling a mosque. It's circling Lake Braddock HS.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 08, 2015 12:03PM

I was bothered again last nite reading Winnie the Pooh to the little ones with the FBI buzzing in my ears, but no more going into wee hours lately.

Thank god for the little things.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Mainsail Dog Owner ()
Date: October 08, 2015 04:42PM

I live near Pohick Library and got a new puppy two months ago. I have watched the lousy Cessna doing lazy circles over my house all summer. Lately, my dog has been getting irritable, chashing its tail, and in short, going crazy. He's a 5-month old Yorkie (OK'd by the vet to be in perfect health) and has been fine until this week.

My dog is really uncomfortable and I've tripped the house circuit-breaker to rule out anything humming in my house. Something changed in the frequency spectrum that is really making this pup miserable. I'm having his ears checked first thing tomorrow.

Right now, I'm down to blaming either crickets or the FBI.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Cesar Milan ()
Date: October 08, 2015 05:58PM

Mainsail Dog Owner Wrote:
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> I live near Pohick Library and got a new puppy two
> months ago. I have watched the lousy Cessna doing
> lazy circles over my house all summer. Lately, my
> dog has been getting irritable, chashing its tail,
> and in short, going crazy. He's a 5-month old
> Yorkie (OK'd by the vet to be in perfect health)
> and has been fine until this week.
>
> My dog is really uncomfortable and I've tripped
> the house circuit-breaker to rule out anything
> humming in my house. Something changed in the
> frequency spectrum that is really making this pup
> miserable. I'm having his ears checked first thing
> tomorrow.
>
> Right now, I'm down to blaming either crickets or
> the FBI.

It seems to me that the FBI is driving your dog nuts with their incessant surveillance. The telltale sign for me is him running in circles, mimicking the airplane that is bothering him. Years of therapy are in your future...

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: wired ()
Date: October 08, 2015 10:11PM

Here's an old Wired article from 2006 which says that these planes have been spotted around the same time that suspected Al-Qaeda operatives were apprehended in the area of Lodi, California.

Spooky stuff.... (btw, N632MR is up at the moment. Replaced N610AG which was flying for most of the afternoon)

http://www.wired.com/2006/06/mystery_planes_/

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Theendlessloop ()
Date: October 08, 2015 10:40PM

here is tonights plane. now it seems to be circling spartans/lake braddock/
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 08, 2015 11:07PM

I wonder if this aircraft cannot do circles for reason, or this more scattered pattern is an attempt to not fly over the same houses (mine) all the time.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: FBI Plane ()
Date: October 08, 2015 11:12PM

Looks like he is circling Kite Street or somewhere in that immediate vicinity. The high school is too far north.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Theendlessloop ()
Date: October 08, 2015 11:16PM

We have some movement ongoing... whoever they are tracking appears to be driving on Fairfax County Parkway.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: ItHasBegun ()
Date: October 09, 2015 12:15PM

Now they are coming in force!
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: mnVVY ()
Date: October 09, 2015 03:11PM

Why does the second map sent by Theendlessloop not include the tracking of the plane in its last position indicated on the first map theendlessloop sent less than an hour earlier?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: 007 ()
Date: October 09, 2015 04:20PM

4:00 PM start today, N632MR. Seems to be popping on and off the flight radar map. Flying a bit lower at 5,550 feet as well

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 09, 2015 06:27PM

Give us this day, our daily FBI spy plane...

Was that thunder? Must be, because the spy plane went home, otherwise he'd still be up there.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: October 09, 2015 06:58PM

Dulles looks seriously crowded in this shot.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 10, 2015 12:54AM

NStar Post doing weekly updates...

FBI spy flights continue..."most notably Burke Virginia has been under constant surveillance for months now"

http://nstarpost.com/mobile/displayarticle.aspx?smid=17518&aid=140077

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: WTW84 ()
Date: October 10, 2015 01:13AM

Yes I hear them. I also always hear a real Low requency Hum...... Like a heart beat. Twinbrook ish. That Outback is no longer potable. These Planes were not here in 77 when we moved in. I expect, they are keeping us safe. I hope. Still Jhunne Rheee round here. Wish I had a chance to meet him. Not kiddin on that.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Johnny English ()
Date: October 10, 2015 10:56AM

Nice article find PeeOde. Flights yesterday seemed to land before the storms rolled through, didn't hear them come back once everything had passed. Expecting another 4:00PM start time with the clear skies today?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: patrick star ()
Date: October 10, 2015 08:02PM

Managed to get a screen cap of the change over. N632MR started around 4:00, just now finished up and being replaced by N632TK
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: October 10, 2015 08:37PM

feds working on the weekend WHAT?
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: whoa ()
Date: October 10, 2015 08:45PM

Thats new...never seen it make that figure 8 shape before. What's he doing up in Fairfax tonight??

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: zippededooda ()
Date: October 10, 2015 09:09PM

Same as when they were followed on 66 - poi's enjoying a nice dinner somewhere near Fairfax circle perhaps

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Theendlessloop ()
Date: October 11, 2015 07:59PM

It only updates every 10 secs or something like that so they guess the planes trajectory which for our circle flying plane is completely different and hence their algorithm messes it up and places it where they would expect it to be at x time, but then they get the actual next waypoint it is at and update it. That is why all the paths look dont look curved and more like a ton if straight lines, the flightradar site is just drawing an approximation of how the plane got from point A to point B and is really just guestimating where it was inbetween radar pings. So it is pretty much approximate but when a plane is flying in a straight line it is accurate, however the circle flying planes are of sucg nature that they are hard to model when the pings only hit every so often.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: KYv4D ()
Date: October 12, 2015 02:54AM

Theendlessloop Wrote:
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> It only updates every 10 secs or something like
> that so they guess the planes trajectory which for
> our circle flying plane is completely different
> and hence their algorithm messes it up and places
> it where they would expect it to be at x time, but
> then they get the actual next waypoint it is at
> and update it. That is why all the paths look
> dont look curved and more like a ton if straight
> lines, the flightradar site is just drawing an
> approximation of how the plane got from point A to
> point B and is really just guestimating where it
> was inbetween radar pings. So it is pretty much
> approximate but when a plane is flying in a
> straight line it is accurate, however the circle
> flying planes are of sucg nature that they are
> hard to model when the pings only hit every so
> often.


That would make more sense if they didn't regularly fly and plot out perfect circles. I've actually watched them fly more straight lines, criss-cross, boxes, and various other patterns at times. I mean watching them in the air not on the flight tracking sites. Though you can see the same there when they do. I'm right at the outside of a point on the regular circle so it's pretty easy to see the overall track and pick up what they're doing relative to my position.

I'm pretty much convinced at this point that they must be testing things. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me for constantly flying over that same area all the damn time. Would make sense with all of the FBI presence in this area.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: k7PmJ ()
Date: October 12, 2015 03:00AM

^ Meant to say above... The pattern above isn't that they're plotting out an un-smoothed circle which is jagged as a result of missing data points. If you look closely it's mostly a series of many overlapping fairly large box patterns.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: FF Resident ()
Date: October 12, 2015 11:05AM

Fed plane was just buzzed over my house in Franklin Farm.

This is the second time I've seen it recently....

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: PissedOffAndAnnoyed ()
Date: October 13, 2015 06:26AM

This shit has got to stop. I don't know who thought it would be a great idea the flyer out and fucking circles in Burke, as well as Fairfax station, Annandale... My parents even see it in their neighborhood. When I Drive in every morning ic one off to the side that appears to be flying along with traffic. I have seen a whole lot of black helicopters as well. People in this area should not be harassed buy these things. This shits been going on for almost 2 months now . Go bother another city. Go bother the cals in Haymarket or Gainesville. You had your fun and Burke and Fairfax station and elsewhere

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: PissedOffAndAnnoyed ()
Date: October 13, 2015 06:32AM

Stop stalking and harassing innocent people in this area. No one wants toto sleep every night hearing A dull hum of a plane circling around incessantly 4 hours on end. There does not need to be constant surveillance of everybody in this area. It's annoying, uncalled for, and has to stop. I wonder what person made that decision. Let's fly around in circles every night and drive people nuts. We deserve much better. And it's sad to know that my taxpayer money is going to good use watching them fly around in circles every night, or follow along with traffic, or god knows what they're doing. But this is gotta stop

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Theendlessloop ()
Date: October 14, 2015 07:01PM

Past few nights I have not seen much activity when I checked. There have been a few fairfax county police chopper activities but they were not really in the Burke area (one nigt was near masonneck and one night over some highways)

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: PissedOffAndAnnoyed ()
Date: October 15, 2015 06:32AM

Oh no. They are there. Just at a higher altitude. They can go up to about 25k feet. Take a look out your window when your driving. I see them flying along side the road all the time. Shit's annoying. Us individuals who are just looking for peace and quiet have to deal with this shit...or those fucking helicopters. They haven't the decency to say what they're mission is to fly constantly for over 2 months straight all day all night. What the hell does Burke, annandale, fairfax and whatnot have that's to be watched? No offense but those aren't exactly exciting cities

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: PissedOffAndAnnoyed ()
Date: October 15, 2015 06:38AM

Meanwhile some people are starting to get livid that they are always there. There's no need to fly helicopters and planes all day. Watching. I have to hear that shit nightly when they fly (right next to Burke Lake Park), and they've flown over my parents house often - I see then when I visit. Shit ain't right. Go bother the cows in Gainesville. They won't mind. And seeing this blinking light when you're driving in in the morning or at night is aggravating. What do they possibly need to watch EVERY DAY and NIGHT for? Then they won't say anything.

WHEN THE HELL WILL IT STOP FOR GOOD?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Clay ()
Date: October 16, 2015 09:47AM

Got 2 up right now. N632MR is over NE DC; N467TS is over FedEx field.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 16, 2015 12:33PM

I have no way to prove this, but my guess is Ffx Co. knows what is going on and has given permission. When you call Ffx, they tell you to call Connolly's office his staff says they know nothing about it (plausible deniability) but presumes it is an FBI secret activity.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Megan's revenge ()
Date: October 16, 2015 12:45PM

You guys can take your tinfoil caps off. Megan Toohey has rented a plane again to drop bombs on mean FFU posters. If you are one of those mean FFU posters, you are fucked! BOOM!

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: retarded 10 year old ()
Date: October 16, 2015 10:24PM

Megan's revenge Wrote:
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> You guys can take your tinfoil caps off. Megan
> Toohey has rented a plane again to drop bombs on
> mean FFU posters. If you are one of those mean FFU
> posters, you are fucked! BOOM!


This sounds like something an autistic 10 year old would say

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: TaylorG ()
Date: October 16, 2015 11:41PM

Pee Ode Wrote:
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> I have no way to prove this, but my guess is Ffx
> Co. knows what is going on and has given
> permission. When you call Ffx, they tell you to
> call Connolly's office his staff says they know
> nothing about it (plausible deniability) but
> presumes it is an FBI secret activity.


Fairfax County doesn't give permission to fly in the air, nor do they have to. Federal Airspace is the exclusive jurisdiction of the Federal government.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: uxKdV ()
Date: October 17, 2015 09:14AM

Where is the air not federal?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Pee Ode ()
Date: October 17, 2015 08:42PM

...maybe "approval" is the wrong word choice but knowledge

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: October 18, 2015 12:51AM

I don't think one over Fedex is out of the ordinary. Stuff like that is a nightmare for the Feds where they need aerial support due to the massive crowds. Now I would be interested what type of event it was because October 16th there wasnt a Redskins game. I couldnt find it online with a quick search though, but maybe it is something the target the FBI is following attended.

NE DC is probably some embassy/spy type of person or government figure.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: October 18, 2015 01:09AM

Look-up Burke, H25B coming your way.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: October 18, 2015 01:17AM

poof! Off radar. As it was entering Chantilly on radar H25B disappeared right before my eyes.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: WTF. ()
Date: October 20, 2015 11:07AM

Yes genius, it disappeared right off of radar because it landed at Dulles.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: ILoveToFlyInCircles ()
Date: October 20, 2015 07:45PM

I could be wrong, but I think there's been one flying over Lee HS along with a helicopter. I'd say I'll be happy when they're gone - but I don't see that happening any time soon. They're like the annoying neighbor who won't go away.

Hold on.

Gotta turn left again.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: ILoveToFlyInCircles ()
Date: October 20, 2015 08:06PM

Correct me if I wrong. These are our little annoyances in the sky?
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Les Pee Ode ()
Date: October 21, 2015 10:17AM

I am less ticked off now as the spy plane activity has slowed down over Burke. For 2 months we had almost 12-hrs every day 4PM to 4AM from about late July thru to end of Sept/early October, constant drone noise in the air. For all I know, they could still be up there 1-hr a day but now we can thankfully go to bed without the constant background noise.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Megan's Revenge ()
Date: October 21, 2015 11:22AM

Meghan Toohey rented the plane again based on a lead that mean FFU posters were located at a specific place in the county. It was just Megan's rented plane flying around looking to drop pipe bombs on mean FFU posters. Once again, you goons can take off your tinfoil hats.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Flowers By Irene ()
Date: October 23, 2015 07:20PM

Circling Hoodbridge now.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Dub ()
Date: October 23, 2015 07:32PM

Looks like they started in Bristow, followed someone to Potomac Mills Mall, then up 95 towards the WW bridge, down to Fort Washington, then back up to Old Town Alexandria. Flying at 8200 feet tonight.



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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: ILoveToFlyInCircles ()
Date: October 27, 2015 02:07PM

These a-hole are flying those stupid planes over where I work every damn day as well. They are also flying black helicopters - or at least I think they are the same people everyday as well. I see a lot of black Suburbans everywhere we drive. My lady friend and I have found it to be completely annoying and harassing. I don't know what the fuck they're looking for, or who they're trying to impress but this shit has got to stop. We don't need to have surveillance on us 24/7, 365. What gives them the right the fly around and harass people and not tell anybody what they're doing. If I am not mistaken there was recently something that stated they needed a warrant to do as such. I should not have to see them everywhere I go everyday. Me personally, I have nothing to worry about because I'm the most boring person on the face of the earth - and I have no problem admitting that - but there is no need for me to have to see those individuals every single day. I don't want to see their stupid Cessna planes. Don't want to hear them. Don't want to see their stupid helicopters. Don't want to hear them... It's just gotta stop. I have lived in this area for over 27 years and never once in all my life have I had to see shit like this go on. This is approaching 3 months straight. This is flat out harassment. I don't give a fuck where you're from the following people in flying overhead every single day is unwarranted. There is no reason for it

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: CAB111 ()
Date: October 27, 2015 02:38PM

Um, you have no right to privacy in public. How are they harassing people?? They're within FAA limits for altitude above populated areas.

If you are just hanging around "seein' those people every day.." you need to get a job.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: ILoveToFlyInCircles ()
Date: October 28, 2015 05:21AM

Apparently someone didn't read my previous statement. That's okay though. They can re-read it and then see.

Point is, they are still flying months on end and haven't told the American public what for. Just no need for it.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: N728MP ()
Date: October 28, 2015 09:45AM

Just drawing Mickey Mouse for you with my plane. Don't mean to be any problem.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: October 29, 2015 08:02PM

Looks like we got a Muslim Terrorist on our hands. He seems to have been followed from the Islamic shopping Center in Manassas through Woodbridge and finally to the hotel at the Gaylord center. Hopefully if this is a terrorist the FBI will nab him before he strikes.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: PissedOffAndAnnoyed ()
Date: November 01, 2015 08:22PM

Yet again the a-holes are out flying around. You can't always hear them, but you can definitely still see them. I wonder how long this shits going to go on? I mean hell, what the hell are they doing surveillance for anyway? At this current point I think they're doing it just to piss people off. They aren't exactly a welcome sight the see everyday. moreover, what is so interesting about Burke Annandale and Fairfax? Not only that, but they're wasting our taxpayer money. My money should not go to an organization so that they can fly airplanes and helicopters around people. Shit has to stop. It's not like we can't see you in the sky when we're driving, walking, or just chillin at home. Go spend your time focusing in other cities. I hear Detroit is lonely

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Take your meds ()
Date: November 01, 2015 08:53PM

PissedOffAndAnnoyed Wrote:
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> Yet again the a-holes are out flying around. You
> can't always hear them, but you can definitely
> still see them. I wonder how long this shits going
> to go on? I mean hell, what the hell are they
> doing surveillance for anyway? At this current
> point I think they're doing it just to piss people
> off. They aren't exactly a welcome sight the see
> everyday. moreover, what is so interesting about
> Burke Annandale and Fairfax? Not only that, but
> they're wasting our taxpayer money. My money
> should not go to an organization so that they can
> fly airplanes and helicopters around people. Shit
> has to stop. It's not like we can't see you in the
> sky when we're driving, walking, or just chillin
> at home. Go spend your time focusing in other
> cities. I hear Detroit is lonely


Why do you view these planes as a personal affront?

If you can't hear them, what's the problem?

They aren't doing anything illegal, that we know of. You have no expectation of privacy in public. Outside is public.

You sound paranoid.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: November 11, 2015 10:02PM

Look like the CIA have a traitor in their midst at their secret locations in Warrention they will evactuate the president too in event of nuclear war.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: Les Pee Ode ()
Date: November 12, 2015 01:29PM

The good news is after 2 months of saturation coverage in Burke, we have had a month of relative peace and quiet.

The bad news is that I have become sensitized to the situation. Every time I hear a Cessna in the sky, no matter where I am, I figure 95% chance this is an FBI plane spying on the public.

My wife couldn't care less, so now she is pissed at me for being upset about it. It helps me if we cannot hear the constant noise. But I think the FBI needs to rethink it's tactics.

There is also a political element to this, as I assume this is an Obama administration-approved FBI tactic. So I am thinking there tends to be partisan support of the Cessna-based FBI surveillance from Dems, and maybe support from other groups.

But we should not approach this as yet another partisan fight issue. The question is: does the purpose justify the tactics, secrecy and inconvenience?

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: November 14, 2015 07:10PM

looks like they are back under surveilance right after the Paris bombings too.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: here we go again ()
Date: November 14, 2015 07:44PM

Here we go again! There has to be something serious for it to be back after the Paris issue.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: 7n44t ()
Date: November 14, 2015 08:18PM

here we go again Wrote:
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> Here we go again! There has to be something
> serious for it to be back after the Paris issue.

no doubt. the circles over burke were all over the place before, but the pilot's in a tight circle now. like they've renewed their resolve to catch these guys.

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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: November 14, 2015 09:47PM

Riding Metro? In car?

Very strange....
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: November 14, 2015 09:51PM

Just flew directly over the White House. So this is serious enough to disrupt King Obama's sleep... wow.
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Re: Federal Aircraft circling Burke...AGAIN
Posted by: theendlessloop ()
Date: November 14, 2015 10:07PM

they are switching planes it appears
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