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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: sorry try again ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:00PM

Background checked Wrote:
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> Boosterthon Background Checks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If Boosterthon people are going to be on school
> > premises having contact with the kids, they
> need
> > to be background checked.
> >
> > If Boosterthon wants to do it, that's fine, but
> > something more than taking their word has to
> > happen-maybe spot checking the background
> checks,
> > a communication from the background check
> company?
> > Speaking of background check company, they need
> to
> > be checked out as well.
> >
> > I suspect merely making Boosterthon an
> after-hours
> > activity would be pretty much the end of it.
>
> They are background checked through the school
> district. Same as volunteers or others that will
> be on campus.

The Boosterthon website says people are checked through S2verify. There's nothing in the FCPS contract about background checks. Sorry, I'm not buying this. What happens in cases where the Boosterthon contract is with PTO/PTA? Where's the mechanism for a school background check (answer: there is none).

I do agree that more than a signed statement from Boosterthon is needed (website could be construed as such). Something concrete is needed. God help us all if even ONE Boosterthon employee does something inappropriate. We need to be proactive here, sorry.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: S2Verify-Verification Needed! ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:06PM

S2Verify, the company used by Boosterthon to do background checks needs a background check itself.

The Atlanta-based company's website lists NO names of personnel and just has a P.O. Box for an address. In this age of VOIP, that means the company could be in Atlanta, but it could also be in Damascus.

If **I** were approving Boosterthon contracts, I'd want background checks on the Boosterthon people and a dossier on this background check company.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: They do background check ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:33PM

S2Verify-Verification Needed! Wrote:
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> S2Verify, the company used by Boosterthon to do
> background checks needs a background check
> itself.
>
> The Atlanta-based company's website lists NO names
> of personnel and just has a P.O. Box for an
> address. In this age of VOIP, that means the
> company could be in Atlanta, but it could also be
> in Damascus.
>
> If **I** were approving Boosterthon contracts, I'd
> want background checks on the Boosterthon people
> and a dossier on this background check company.

Yes, Boosterthon does background check their employees prior to hiring (like any wise company), but FCPS also requires their own background check to be done. Just because it's not in the contract doesn't mean that it's not being done

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: This is going to be a HARD SELL ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:38PM

They do background check Wrote:
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> S2Verify-Verification Needed! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > S2Verify, the company used by Boosterthon to do
> > background checks needs a background check
> > itself.
> >
> > The Atlanta-based company's website lists NO
> names
> > of personnel and just has a P.O. Box for an
> > address. In this age of VOIP, that means the
> > company could be in Atlanta, but it could also
> be
> > in Damascus.
> >
> > If **I** were approving Boosterthon contracts,
> I'd
> > want background checks on the Boosterthon
> people
> > and a dossier on this background check company.
>
> Yes, Boosterthon does background check their
> employees prior to hiring (like any wise company),
> but FCPS also requires their own background check
> to be done. Just because it's not in the contract
> doesn't mean that it's not being done

Yes, but what's involved in the background check? Some aren't written the paper they are printed on. FCPS needs to give them standards to use.

If FCPS requires it, it NEEDS to be in the contract. Otherwise, Boosterthon could not do it and say the contract did not require it (and they'd be right). It is what is called the "four corners of the contract" and is pretty much obvious and common sense.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: BS ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:39PM

S2Verify-Verification Needed! Wrote:
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> S2Verify, the company used by Boosterthon to do
> background checks needs a background check
> itself.
>
> The Atlanta-based company's website lists NO names
> of personnel and just has a P.O. Box for an
> address. In this age of VOIP, that means the
> company could be in Atlanta, but it could also be
> in Damascus.
>
> If **I** were approving Boosterthon contracts, I'd
> want background checks on the Boosterthon people
> and a dossier on this background check company.

Go to "contact us" on their website and you'll see their physical address "3600 Mansell Rd", which is in Atlanta

But yes, lets background check the background check company. You people are rediculous. Do you realize the amount of risk Boosterthon would be taking if they didn't properly background check their people. Surely you have more common sense than that. Or you're just spouting off nonsense to rile people up...

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Check your facts ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:41PM

BS Wrote:
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> S2Verify-Verification Needed! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > S2Verify, the company used by Boosterthon to do
> > background checks needs a background check
> > itself.
> >
> > The Atlanta-based company's website lists NO
> names
> > of personnel and just has a P.O. Box for an
> > address. In this age of VOIP, that means the
> > company could be in Atlanta, but it could also
> be
> > in Damascus.
> >
> > If **I** were approving Boosterthon contracts,
> I'd
> > want background checks on the Boosterthon
> people
> > and a dossier on this background check company.
>
> Go to "contact us" on their website and you'll see
> their physical address "3600 Mansell Rd", which is
> in Atlanta
>
> But yes, lets background check the background
> check company. You people are rediculous. Do you
> realize the amount of risk Boosterthon would be
> taking if they didn't properly background check
> their people. Surely you have more common sense
> than that. Or you're just spouting off nonsense to
> rile people up...

And the website lists the CEO as well "BILL C. WHITFORD, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER"

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Have some common sense ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:43PM

This is going to be a HARD SELL Wrote:
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> They do background check Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > S2Verify-Verification Needed! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > S2Verify, the company used by Boosterthon to
> do
> > > background checks needs a background check
> > > itself.
> > >
> > > The Atlanta-based company's website lists NO
> > names
> > > of personnel and just has a P.O. Box for an
> > > address. In this age of VOIP, that means the
> > > company could be in Atlanta, but it could
> also
> > be
> > > in Damascus.
> > >
> > > If **I** were approving Boosterthon
> contracts,
> > I'd
> > > want background checks on the Boosterthon
> > people
> > > and a dossier on this background check
> company.
> >
> > Yes, Boosterthon does background check their
> > employees prior to hiring (like any wise
> company),
> > but FCPS also requires their own background
> check
> > to be done. Just because it's not in the
> contract
> > doesn't mean that it's not being done
>
> Yes, but what's involved in the background check?
> Some aren't written the paper they are printed on.
> FCPS needs to give them standards to use.
>
> If FCPS requires it, it NEEDS to be in the
> contract. Otherwise, Boosterthon could not do it
> and say the contract did not require it (and
> they'd be right). It is what is called the "four
> corners of the contract" and is pretty much
> obvious and common sense.

Again, do you realize the amount of risk Boosterthon would be taking if they didn;t background check their people? The risk wouldn't be worth it. Anyone with even a little common sense would realize that

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Tomás de Torquemada ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:47PM

Damn it. Who cares if it's true or not? Who cares if we have any facts or not? Let's just keep throwing stuff out there and make accusations.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Common Sense? ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:48PM

Sure, they'd be taking a risk, but why not introduce some transparency? That background check company they use is NOT registered in Georgia, where they claim to be, that's a red flag.

As far as the contract, well, Shakespeare did say "let's kill all the lawyers" but we have contracts for a reason. If FCPS requires background checks, putting that in the contract makes that happen. Can you think of some reason why it should not be in the contract?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Nonsense and more nonsense ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:51PM

Tomás de Torquemada Wrote:
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> Damn it. Who cares if it's true or not? Who
> cares if we have any facts or not? Let's just
> keep throwing stuff out there and make
> accusations.


Exactly! I woud LOVE for at least 1 person to be honest and tell everyone what the real agenda here is. Because I've seen complaints about various issues and there is so much nonsense being spouted on here that it's almost as if people are trying to make it obvious that they're spewing nonsense. Normal sensible people don't say the types of things that are being said on here. It is blantantly obvious that some folks on here have made it their mission to keep the Boosterthon issues alive by posting whatever junk they can just to keep the "controversy" alive.

I'm sure there are some people on here with genuine concerns but for the most part all I see is nonsense and more nonsense

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: They do background check ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:56PM

Common Sense? Wrote:
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> Sure, they'd be taking a risk, but why not
> introduce some transparency? That background check
> company they use is NOT registered in Georgia,
> where they claim to be, that's a red flag.
>
> As far as the contract, well, Shakespeare did say
> "let's kill all the lawyers" but we have contracts
> for a reason. If FCPS requires background checks,
> putting that in the contract makes that happen.
> Can you think of some reason why it should not be
> in the contract?

I own a business and all of my employees are background checked. There is no way I or any business owner of a multi-million $ company would cut corners on something like that and take a risk of sinking the whole company because I wanted to save $20 by using a dodgy background check company.

Plus, it's not in the contract because it's already an FCPS policy. When their ID is scanned when they arrive on campus, if they have not completed the FCPS background check, they will be flagged.

This is the FCPS background check completed by all Boosterthon staff that will be on campus http://www.fcps.edu/hr/clientservices/volunteerbackgroundcheck.shtml

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Real Agenda ()
Date: September 27, 2015 11:04PM

1) I pay taxes for instructional hours, not fundraising. That's part of my social contract with the County. If they want to change that it needs to be a bilateral change. As it stands, you're not supposed to fundraise using instructional hours.

2) I don't want people of uncertain backgrounds playing with my kids or having lunch with them.

3) I agree to let FCPS decide what to teach the kids. If they contract with an outfit like Boosterthon, I want to hear from them that they have reviewed and approved the lessons. I have asked for this and not received it. If the PTA/PTO is contracting with Boosterthon to teach/counsel my kids, I have a problem with that.

4) The prizes are crap and the pressure on the kids is not acceptable.

5) The fun run is far from a comprehensive fitness program. Once the run is done, it is done. If this program is so great, where's the reinforcement?

6) I don't like the secrecy. If my kids' school does Boosterthon and I ask for the contract, I ought to get a copy. If FCPS brings them in to my kids' school and I have questions about the contract, I ought to get answers. I know some PTAs/PTOs say they will only talk to parents of kids at their school, but the process needs to be transparent. If a taxpayer wants information about what goes on at a tax dollar funded/receiving entity, they should get it unless there's a good reason not to let them have it.

7) It seems to me NO form of competitive bidding has been done. Dr. Lockard has said "Boosterthon is one of the most effective fundraisers" but come on, this is government after all, where are the numbers to back that up? How does anyone know if some other company can't do a better job? This type of thing is part and parcel of government spending-why the exception here?

I agree with the person above who says that if Boosterthon were an optional, after hours activity, that would resolve the issues surrounding it. I would just tell my kids we could buy them a toy or two and they did not have to do Boosterthon unless they wanted to. Done and over with. I don't see why FCPS, the PTA/PTO and Boosterthon have made this so complicated.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Something Rotten in Georgia ()
Date: September 27, 2015 11:31PM

S2Verify's registered agent's name is just given as "Bill."

"Bill" lists what is clearly a residential address.

This residence sold for $136,000 in March of 2004 and then for $855,700 in May of 2005. That's some pretty fancy real estate speculation.

More importantly, though, REPUTABLE companies use a law firm or a registered agent service (e.g., CT) instead of a first name at a home. There could be problems serving this company if a lawsuit were to arise.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Counter arguement ()
Date: September 28, 2015 12:51AM

Real Agenda Wrote:
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> 1) I pay taxes for instructional hours, not
> fundraising. That's part of my social contract
> with the County. If they want to change that it
> needs to be a bilateral change. As it stands,
> you're not supposed to fundraise using
> instructional hours.
>
> 2) I don't want people of uncertain backgrounds
> playing with my kids or having lunch with them.
>
> 3) I agree to let FCPS decide what to teach the
> kids. If they contract with an outfit like
> Boosterthon, I want to hear from them that they
> have reviewed and approved the lessons. I have
> asked for this and not received it. If the PTA/PTO
> is contracting with Boosterthon to teach/counsel
> my kids, I have a problem with that.
>
> 4) The prizes are crap and the pressure on the
> kids is not acceptable.
>
> 5) The fun run is far from a comprehensive fitness
> program. Once the run is done, it is done. If this
> program is so great, where's the reinforcement?
>
> 6) I don't like the secrecy. If my kids' school
> does Boosterthon and I ask for the contract, I
> ought to get a copy. If FCPS brings them in to my
> kids' school and I have questions about the
> contract, I ought to get answers. I know some
> PTAs/PTOs say they will only talk to parents of
> kids at their school, but the process needs to be
> transparent. If a taxpayer wants information about
> what goes on at a tax dollar funded/receiving
> entity, they should get it unless there's a good
> reason not to let them have it.
>
> 7) It seems to me NO form of competitive bidding
> has been done. Dr. Lockard has said "Boosterthon
> is one of the most effective fundraisers" but come
> on, this is government after all, where are the
> numbers to back that up? How does anyone know if
> some other company can't do a better job? This
> type of thing is part and parcel of government
> spending-why the exception here?
>
> I agree with the person above who says that if
> Boosterthon were an optional, after hours
> activity, that would resolve the issues
> surrounding it. I would just tell my kids we could
> buy them a toy or two and they did not have to do
> Boosterthon unless they wanted to. Done and over
> with. I don't see why FCPS, the PTA/PTO and
> Boosterthon have made this so complicated.

Counter arguement:

1) Fundraising is necessary to purchase things that further the education of the kids. "Extras" that are not in the budget. Would you rather sell cookie dough?

2) They don't have "uncertain" backgrounds. They are background checked by both Boosterthon and FCPS. They are a positive role model presence on campus and by far the teachers enjoy them being there and approve of what they do. Don't you trust your childs teachers judgement?

3) Boosterthon nor FCPS ever claimed that they are "teachers". The character lessons are fun meesages that reinforce good character traits. Lighten up a little. It's ok for the kids to have fun

4) Boosterthon isn't a toy store. When you give a pledge it's not to purchase a toy, it's to support the school. If the prizes were high quality items Boosterthon would need to take a larger % of the funds raised to cover the increased cost and that would mean less money going to the school. Parents would complain about that. The prizes are a reward for raising money to help their school. Boosterthon does a lot of other stuff for all of the kids, not just give prizes to kids that raise money.

5) Kids get excited for the fun run. Kids getting excited about doing something active is always a good thing. Even if it is for just one day I'm sure it sticks to some degree.

6) I agree with you

7) Other companies really can't accomplish the same thing. Product sales don't even come close to being able to raise as much as Boosterthon and I don't think any other fun run companies operate on the area

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: KkMm ()
Date: September 28, 2015 07:15AM

The only volunteers that get fingerprinted are the people who are not a parent or legal guardian of a student in the school system. People volunteering in after hours programs don't scan their ID in the front office. Some school systems require full background checks for any adult going on an overnight trip with students. Not a bad idea.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: ----- ()
Date: September 28, 2015 07:29AM

Looks like the onus is on Booster Enterprises to ensure background checks are done. Does FCPS check up on this or not? Don't know.
Attachments:
backgroundcheckboosterenterprises.pdf

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 28, 2015 09:25AM

Liars Wrote:
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> there are a ton of costs involved that are all
> paid for out of the percentage that Boosterthon
> gets.

If a hypothetical fundraising organization commands, say, 95% of child-generated revenue, it's ok because their margins are thin?
Or 80%? 70%? 48%?

Slim profit margin is a lousy reason to be a for-profit's customer.


Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville, SC) dropping Boosterthon this year.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Wow! ()
Date: September 28, 2015 09:55AM

I can't believe the amount of energy, research, time and effort spent analyzing and arguing over this. If only those parents involved in the discussion would spend 10% of that time/effort within the schools, helping teachers or helping the PTA (financially or otherwise), we would not need the Boosterthon at all.

But something tells me the parents arguing on here are the ones always on the sidelines, complaining about every single thing the school does, yet unwilling to put in any effort to change things other than bitching about it.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Step up to help ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:04AM

> Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville, SC)
> dropping Boosterthon this year.


No company has a 100% rebook rate. What's your point? Smith Elementary in Bailey, MA just signed up with Boosterthon. Who cares?

I second the point of the poster above...why don't you spend this time volunteering at your kids school.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: ----:::: ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:12AM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> Liars Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > there are a ton of costs involved that are all
> > paid for out of the percentage that Boosterthon
> > gets.
>
> If a hypothetical fundraising organization
> commands, say, 95% of child-generated revenue,
> it's ok because their margins are thin?
> Or 80%? 70%? 48%?
>
>
Slim profit margin is a
> lousy reason to be a for-profit's
> customer.
>
>
> Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville, SC)
> dropping Boosterthon this year.

They are doing Read-a-Thon instead. Same sort of thing, different thon. Like the other poster said, no company has a 100% rebook rate. What's your point?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:20AM

Working with the PTA has been tried.

Such persons quickly finds themselves facing an
either-you're-with-us-or-you're-against-us
environment. And so we find ourselves creating
a lot of, well, non-friends in our own schools.

I also offered a PTA to contact their PTA Council
on their behalf to solicit PTA-approved alternatives.
There was no response.

This isn't Booster's fault. But please don't assume there's been no attempt to work with our local PTAs.

Financially, I contributed generously to a PTA who dropped Boosterthon.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Some Pertinent Points ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:21AM

(1) I think the schools WASTE a lot of money, when I'm convinced WASTE has been handled, I might reconsider the schools' "need" for money. Some examples of WASTE include FCPS' top-heavy administration, Garza's $2000/month housing allowance, these ridiculous consultants they hire, and all of the travel. Cut or reduce those, then let's see how broke they are.

(2) Since the PTA/PTO won't release Boosterthon contracts, no telling if there is language in there, or not, about background checks.

(3) Boosterthon lists its founder, Chris Carneal, as its registered agent. The address given for him is an OLD address for Boosterthon. This is sloppy and potentially problematic. I can see a PTA/PTO not knowing any better, but for what FCPS' supposed "world class" contracting office costs, they should have caught this.

(4) Boosterthon does, indeed extol how its "lessons" augment what is taught in the schools and they claim their "lessons" reinforce school counseling. So yes, they are claiming, indirectly, that their people are working as teachers and counselors. Now, let's see Boosterthon demonstrate that their people are actually qualified in these areas.

(5) There's this little thing called "WORK" that manages to get in the way of doing large scale volunteering at the school. I pay more than enough taxes, if the schools need more people, let them can a couple of these consultants or not send the whole head office to Florida.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:29AM

Step up to help Wrote:
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> > Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville, SC)
> > dropping Boosterthon this year.
>
>
> No company has a 100% rebook rate. What's your point?

I don't know the reason(s) AJ Whittenberg dropped Boosterthon.
But are we assuming their reasons have no merit because of, what, rebook rates?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Who cares??? ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:46AM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> Step up to help Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville,
> SC)
> > > dropping Boosterthon this year.
> >
> >
> > No company has a 100% rebook rate. What's your
> point?
>
> I don't know the reason(s) AJ Whittenberg dropped
> Boosterthon.
> But are we assuming their reasons have no merit
> because of, what, rebook rates?

Who cares, seriously??

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: What's your point ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:51AM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> Working with the PTA has been tried.
>
> Such persons quickly finds themselves facing an
> either-you're-with-us-or-you're-against-us
> environment. And so we find ourselves creating
> a lot of, well, non-friends in our own schools.
>
> I also offered a PTA to contact their PTA Council
> on their behalf to solicit PTA-approved
> alternatives.
> There was no response.
>
> This isn't Booster's fault. But please don't
> assume there's been no attempt to work with our
> local PTAs.
>
> Financially, I contributed generously to a PTA who
> dropped Boosterthon.

So basically everyone just keeps telling you to f@&k off. Maybe you should take the hint. Do you even have a job John Koch or is this all you do all day? You post all over here, then on Facebook and other message boards as Donald Harvey. You sure have made this crusade your personal life mission haven't you. Makes one wonder what your agenda really is...

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Waste of time ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:54AM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> Step up to help Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville,
> SC)
> > > dropping Boosterthon this year.
> >
> >
> > No company has a 100% rebook rate. What's your
> point?
>
> I don't know the reason(s) AJ Whittenberg dropped
> Boosterthon.
> But are we assuming their reasons have no merit
> because of, what, rebook rates?

They serve over 1500 schools a year and more sign up every day. Whatever it is that you're trying to do isn't even making a pin prick.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:56AM

....aaand we're back with the ad hominem remarks.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Ask Me Anything? ()
Date: September 28, 2015 11:03AM

Would be very interesting to see if one of the senior people from Boosterthon would be willing to do a Q & A.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Ad hominem shmominem ()
Date: September 28, 2015 01:00PM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> ....aaand we're back with the ad hominem remarks.


That seems to be your only response when you have no response...

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Ask away ()
Date: September 28, 2015 01:06PM

Ask Me Anything? Wrote:
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> Would be very interesting to see if one of the
> senior people from Boosterthon would be willing to
> do a Q & A.

This is not the forum for that. Call the office and I'm sure Boosterthon will answer any SENSIBLE questions you have. But if all you're going to ask is agenda slanted questions so you can take the answers and twist them out of context, it's not worth anyone's time to answer.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: New Horizon ()
Date: September 28, 2015 01:27PM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> ....aaand we're back with the ad hominem remarks.


Ad hominem is right...because your personal agenda and background absolutely has something to do with the things you post. You're not just a concerned parent with questions about Boosterthon at your kids school (which would be perfectly ok). You're a man on a mission and it's doubtful that your mission is of reasonable nature. "Donald Harvey" and "New Horizon" aka you (John Koch) has posted things on every internet site you can find, in an effort to rile people up. You've also sent letters to various PTA groups and National PTA and even took Nat PTA's words out of context to further your agenda. The PTA groups and Nat PTA have asked you to stop contacting them and stop using their words and policies out of context. You're a trouble maker with no life and you make things up to rile people up. Boosterthon either jaded you in some way or you work for a competitor who feels threatened by Boosterthon and is paying you to blast them all over the internet.

I've seen people upset about many issues but have never seen anyone go to the lengths you have to create controversy all over the internet.

You even post things like: "Separately, AJ Whittenberg ES (Greenville, SC) dropping Boosterthon this year."

Who cares? Is this seriously what you spend your day doing? I imagine your office has sticky notes and photos all over the wall with yarn connecting them all together like on CSI. You really need to get a life

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: The real New Horizon ()
Date: September 28, 2015 01:31PM

Here's John Koch (New Horizon). I guess if I looked like that I wouldn't have much of a life either. You were probably picked on as a kid and this is what you do to feel important
Attachments:
4_400x400.jpg

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Two Can Play That Game ()
Date: September 28, 2015 06:03PM

Why the attacks on the guy with the kid? The REAL problem is Boosterthon. Meet Boosterthon's spokesman, Brett Trapp. Trapp was so heavily involved in the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity that it took him five years to get a degree in English!

Since then, his career has consisted of Boosterthon and continued involvement in the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity. A real leader, a real role model, and a real educator to be sure.
Attachments:
btrapp.jpg

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: What's your point? ()
Date: September 28, 2015 06:34PM

Two Can Play That Game Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why the attacks on the guy with the kid? The REAL
> problem is Boosterthon. Meet Boosterthon's
> spokesman, Brett Trapp. Trapp was so heavily
> involved in the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity that it
> took him five years to get a degree in English!
>
> Since then, his career has consisted of
> Boosterthon and continued involvement in the Alpha
> Tau Omega fraternity. A real leader, a real role
> model, and a real educator to be sure.

Lots of people were in fraternities. Doesn't make them bad people. What's your point? That Boosterthon is bad because an employee of theirs was in a fraternity?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Two Points Please ()
Date: September 28, 2015 06:44PM

One point it seems would be to meet the pro-Boosterthon contingent's approach of making personal attacks on Mr. Koch with a bit of a revelation about one of the key people in Boosterthon.

Another point is that if Mr. Trapp is representative of Boosterthon's staff, then Boosterthon should pack up and go away. I for one don't find a fifth year senior frat boy to be the type of role model I want for my kids.

Yes a lot of people were in fraternities but then one has to ask why so many schools have banned them. Whatever good they may have does not outweigh the bad that they do. In Trapp's case it seems he is still stuck back in those days, he's unable to let go of Rush Week and get on with a real job. The humiliation techniques used to get the kids to get pledges are straight out of Animal House.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: The "Real" Brett Trapp ()
Date: September 28, 2015 08:02PM

Guys! I've lost like 20 pounds since that photo. Please post something more flattering! *toga* *toga*

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: really mixed up ()
Date: September 28, 2015 08:57PM

Notice the conflicts between the new contract and the regulations. The 5810 was totally revised last year. It is very current.
Attachments:
fundraisingconflicts.pdf

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: ruserious? ()
Date: September 28, 2015 11:27PM

Two Can Play That Game Wrote:
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> it took him five years to get a degree in English!

One of my nephews took 8 years to finish his first degree in history. And he is now a very highly respected high school history teacher. I guess by your standards he should be fired.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Pattern of Facts? ()
Date: September 29, 2015 11:21AM

ruserious? Wrote:
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> Two Can Play That Game Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > it took him five years to get a degree in
> English!
>
> One of my nephews took 8 years to finish his first
> degree in history. And he is now a very highly
> respected high school history teacher. I guess by
> your standards he should be fired.

Why did he take eight years? If there had been a family crisis, fine. If, like Brett Trapp, he let Alpha Tau Omega run his life, not so fine. And as far as I can tell the only people who respect Trapp are the people who get the free trips to Atlanta.

Trust me when I tell you Boosterthon is a problem. It brings in money, but so do heroin trafficking and prostitution.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Credibility ()
Date: September 29, 2015 12:10PM

Trust me when I say you've lost all credibility when you start comparing Boosterthon to Heroin Trafficking and Prostitution; and when you start posting weird crap about people's educational backgrounds and real estate sales.

You were making relatively valid points earlier, but now it's clear you're just a weirdo. It seems that this topic has become somewhat of an obsession for you... now YOU are the one scaring us all a little. Next thing you know you'll be assaulting the Boosterthon reps???

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: sounds like a great movie ()
Date: September 29, 2015 12:37PM

A school fundraiser run by evangelicals that is a front for prostitution, drug trafficking, and some real estate scandal.

Justin Bieber as the head evangelist.

Lindsay Lohan as one of the prostitutes.

Wes Studi as a heroin trafficker.

Benedict Cumberbatch and Gwyneth Paltro play new arrivals to the community. Puzzled by the real estate prices, they unearth the rest.

Rosie O'Donnell as the school official who won't listen.

Steven Segal as an honest handyman working for the crooked real estate guy (played by Tom Cruise). Segal is really an undercover FBI agent, and at the last minute the Cumberbatch kids are rescued from the clutches of Bieber and Lohan.

Gritty soundtrack by Mike Watt (his first soundtrack?).

Toss the film together, we'd have it for Summer 2016, it would be a blockbuster.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: CnydM ()
Date: September 29, 2015 12:41PM

Pattern of Facts? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If, like Brett Trapp, he let
> Alpha Tau Omega run his life, not so fine.

Explain why that make a hill of beans difference at this point if true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Tau_Omega
Looks like a reputable fraternity to me.

> And as far as I can tell the only people who respect
> Trapp are the people who get the free trips to
> Atlanta.

What evidence other than your statement do you have that this is true?


> Trust me when I tell you Boosterthon is a problem.

Why should we trust you? Fallacy of Authority. A sure sign of a losing argument.

> It brings in money, but so do heroin trafficking
> and prostitution.

No, as a matter of fact heroin trafficking and prostitution are not fundraising techniques used in schools.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: ATO-Suspended ()
Date: September 29, 2015 12:59PM

CnydM Wrote:
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> Pattern of Facts? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If, like Brett Trapp, he let
> > Alpha Tau Omega run his life, not so fine.
>
> Explain why that make a hill of beans difference
> at this point if true.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Tau_Omega
> Looks like a reputable fraternity to me.

Read this:

http://www.klkntv.com/story/29558558/unl-suspends-alpha-tau-omega-fraternity

And, using the words "fraternity" and "reputable" too close together is hella problematic if you ask me (or even if you don't ask me).

>
> > And as far as I can tell the only people who
> respect
> > Trapp are the people who get the free trips to
> > Atlanta.
>
> What evidence other than your statement do you
> have that this is true?
>
>
> > Trust me when I tell you Boosterthon is a
> problem.
>
> Why should we trust you? Fallacy of Authority. A
> sure sign of a losing argument.
>
> > It brings in money, but so do heroin
> trafficking
> > and prostitution.
>
> No, as a matter of fact heroin trafficking and
> prostitution are not fundraising techniques used
> in schools.

I think the point being made was that fundraising, trafficking and prostitution all bring in money.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: lkjh ()
Date: September 29, 2015 01:05PM

This is getting more bizarre with every post.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Crazies ()
Date: September 30, 2015 03:53AM

lkjh Wrote:
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> This is getting more bizarre with every post.


Exactly! And these people wonder why their complaints fall on deaf ears at FCPS. Just a bunch of crazies spouting off crazy talk. No one in their right mind would take any of those arguments seriously.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: lkjh ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:16AM

Crazies Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> lkjh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is getting more bizarre with every post.
>
>
> Exactly! And these people wonder why their
> complaints fall on deaf ears at FCPS. Just a bunch
> of crazies spouting off crazy talk. No one in
> their right mind would take any of those arguments
> seriously.

Exactly.

The valid, rational complaints are-

Why is instructional time being used. They say they don't have enough time to teach everything. Well then, why are three hours reserved for a fundraiser? There are multiple regulations that prohibit this. How can they justify public funds being used this way? How can they say public funds are not being misused? Who do they think pays for the salaries, the building and grounds, etc.?

Why is the FCPS contract not being used? The regulations mandate that if students are involved, the money is supposed to be in a school account. We paid good money to have that drawn up.

Why would/did a PTA president refuse to show a contract to a member of the non-profit? Was the parent a member of the non-profit? Again, why is a PTA or O president obligating staff, building and grounds, and children during the school day? They don't have any right to do that. Anything they do is supposed to be outside of school hours. And the money is supposed to run through a school account, anyway. And that means from the beginning, not after it has languished in a PTA or O bank account.

Why are principals allowing people in the school during the school day that they do not have any type of written agreement with, and letting them closely interact with children (and interrupt the instructional time they are responsible for)? And then turning their back on their responsibilities. Why are they not held accountable?

Why are the School Board and Administration not following written policies? Why is the School Board not insisting staff follow their policies? This is nothing new for them. It is Dr. Garza's responsibility to ensure that all policies are enforced. That is what we pay her to do. Why does she repeatedly ignore this, while being paid more than the Governor? If things are not being handled properly, the processes need to be fixed right away, NOT in three years. Maybe.

It seems that the business model being used has children in a contest that puts a lot of pressure on them to cooperate, and makes those that don't (and they don't have to) feel bad. Again, a policy and ethical violation.

I don't have a particular problem with the profit Boosterthon makes. They are just like any other fundraising company. They need and want to make money for themselves. If people don't like the terms, they are free to not participate, and should have minimal problem with this if it is done outside of school hours.

This is really messed up.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: YES. These are the issues! ()
Date: September 30, 2015 09:26AM

lkjh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Crazies Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lkjh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This is getting more bizarre with every post.
> >
> >
> > Exactly! And these people wonder why their
> > complaints fall on deaf ears at FCPS. Just a
> bunch
> > of crazies spouting off crazy talk. No one in
> > their right mind would take any of those
> arguments
> > seriously.
>
> Exactly.
>
> The valid, rational complaints are-
>
> Why is instructional time being used. They say
> they don't have enough time to teach everything.
> Well then, why are three hours reserved for a
> fundraiser? There are multiple regulations that
> prohibit this. How can they justify public funds
> being used this way? How can they say public funds
> are not being misused? Who do they think pays for
> the salaries, the building and grounds, etc.?
>
> Why is the FCPS contract not being used? The
> regulations mandate that if students are involved,
> the money is supposed to be in a school account.
> We paid good money to have that drawn up.
>
> Why would/did a PTA president refuse to show a
> contract to a member of the non-profit? Was the
> parent a member of the non-profit? Again, why is a
> PTA or O president obligating staff, building and
> grounds, and children during the school day? They
> don't have any right to do that. Anything they do
> is supposed to be outside of school hours. And the
> money is supposed to run through a school account,
> anyway. And that means from the beginning, not
> after it has languished in a PTA or O bank
> account.
>
> Why are principals allowing people in the school
> during the school day that they do not have any
> type of written agreement with, and letting them
> closely interact with children (and interrupt the
> instructional time they are responsible for)? And
> then turning their back on their responsibilities.
> Why are they not held accountable?
>
> Why are the School Board and Administration not
> following written policies? Why is the School
> Board not insisting staff follow their policies?
> This is nothing new for them. It is Dr. Garza's
> responsibility to ensure that all policies are
> enforced. That is what we pay her to do. Why does
> she repeatedly ignore this, while being paid more
> than the Governor? If things are not being handled
> properly, the processes need to be fixed right
> away, NOT in three years. Maybe.
>
> It seems that the business model being used has
> children in a contest that puts a lot of pressure
> on them to cooperate, and makes those that don't
> (and they don't have to) feel bad. Again, a policy
> and ethical violation.
>
> I don't have a particular problem with the profit
> Boosterthon makes. They are just like any other
> fundraising company. They need and want to make
> money for themselves. If people don't like the
> terms, they are free to not participate, and
> should have minimal problem with this if it is
> done outside of school hours.
>
> This is really messed up.

+1,000

Now, why can't FCPS (or the school board) respond to these concerns?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: They have responded ()
Date: September 30, 2015 11:22AM

YES. These are the issues! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> lkjh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Crazies Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > lkjh Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > This is getting more bizarre with every
> post.
> > >
> > >
> > > Exactly! And these people wonder why their
> > > complaints fall on deaf ears at FCPS. Just a
> > bunch
> > > of crazies spouting off crazy talk. No one in
> > > their right mind would take any of those
> > arguments
> > > seriously.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > The valid, rational complaints are-
> >
> > Why is instructional time being used. They say
> > they don't have enough time to teach
> everything.
> > Well then, why are three hours reserved for a
> > fundraiser? There are multiple regulations that
> > prohibit this. How can they justify public
> funds
> > being used this way? How can they say public
> funds
> > are not being misused? Who do they think pays
> for
> > the salaries, the building and grounds, etc.?
> >
> > Why is the FCPS contract not being used? The
> > regulations mandate that if students are
> involved,
> > the money is supposed to be in a school
> account.
> > We paid good money to have that drawn up.
> >
> > Why would/did a PTA president refuse to show a
> > contract to a member of the non-profit? Was the
> > parent a member of the non-profit? Again, why is
> a
> > PTA or O president obligating staff, building
> and
> > grounds, and children during the school day?
> They
> > don't have any right to do that. Anything they
> do
> > is supposed to be outside of school hours. And
> the
> > money is supposed to run through a school
> account,
> > anyway. And that means from the beginning, not
> > after it has languished in a PTA or O bank
> > account.
> >
> > Why are principals allowing people in the
> school
> > during the school day that they do not have any
> > type of written agreement with, and letting
> them
> > closely interact with children (and interrupt
> the
> > instructional time they are responsible for)?
> And
> > then turning their back on their
> responsibilities.
> > Why are they not held accountable?
> >
> > Why are the School Board and Administration not
> > following written policies? Why is the School
> > Board not insisting staff follow their
> policies?
> > This is nothing new for them. It is Dr. Garza's
> > responsibility to ensure that all policies are
> > enforced. That is what we pay her to do. Why
> does
> > she repeatedly ignore this, while being paid
> more
> > than the Governor? If things are not being
> handled
> > properly, the processes need to be fixed right
> > away, NOT in three years. Maybe.
> >
> > It seems that the business model being used has
> > children in a contest that puts a lot of
> pressure
> > on them to cooperate, and makes those that
> don't
> > (and they don't have to) feel bad. Again, a
> policy
> > and ethical violation.
> >
> > I don't have a particular problem with the
> profit
> > Boosterthon makes. They are just like any other
> > fundraising company. They need and want to make
> > money for themselves. If people don't like the
> > terms, they are free to not participate, and
> > should have minimal problem with this if it is
> > done outside of school hours.
> >
> > This is really messed up.
>
> +1,000
>
> Now, why can't FCPS (or the school board) respond
> to these concerns?

They have and your group didn't like the response. They have more important things to do rather than to allow themselves to get distracted with what's otherwise just a small group of complainers.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: WillWorkForSchool ()
Date: September 30, 2015 12:10PM

I noticed as soon as the school year started the kids were out in full force selling crap. Scout's has their popcorn, football team had their wrapping paper catalog, band had their gourmet chocolates, ect, ect. I understand them needing funds, but raising them by becoming a door-to-door salesman for a thrid-party for profit company is silly. I told some of those kids they would make a lot more money raking leaves this fall. In fact, I will buy some kid a uniform, violin, or camping equipment if they keep my lawn leaf free this fall. Spare me your overpriced junk food and Chinese knick knacks.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: sorry no reply ()
Date: September 30, 2015 12:34PM

They have responded Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> YES. These are the issues! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lkjh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Crazies Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > lkjh Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > This is getting more bizarre with every
> > post.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Exactly! And these people wonder why their
> > > > complaints fall on deaf ears at FCPS. Just
> a
> > > bunch
> > > > of crazies spouting off crazy talk. No one
> in
> > > > their right mind would take any of those
> > > arguments
> > > > seriously.
> > >
> > > Exactly.
> > >
> > > The valid, rational complaints are-
> > >
> > > Why is instructional time being used. They
> say
> > > they don't have enough time to teach
> > everything.
> > > Well then, why are three hours reserved for a
> > > fundraiser? There are multiple regulations
> that
> > > prohibit this. How can they justify public
> > funds
> > > being used this way? How can they say public
> > funds
> > > are not being misused? Who do they think pays
> > for
> > > the salaries, the building and grounds, etc.?
> > >
> > > Why is the FCPS contract not being used? The
> > > regulations mandate that if students are
> > involved,
> > > the money is supposed to be in a school
> > account.
> > > We paid good money to have that drawn up.
> > >
> > > Why would/did a PTA president refuse to show
> a
> > > contract to a member of the non-profit? Was
> the
> > > parent a member of the non-profit? Again, why
> is
> > a
> > > PTA or O president obligating staff, building
> > and
> > > grounds, and children during the school day?
> > They
> > > don't have any right to do that. Anything
> they
> > do
> > > is supposed to be outside of school hours.
> And
> > the
> > > money is supposed to run through a school
> > account,
> > > anyway. And that means from the beginning,
> not
> > > after it has languished in a PTA or O bank
> > > account.
> > >
> > > Why are principals allowing people in the
> > school
> > > during the school day that they do not have
> any
> > > type of written agreement with, and letting
> > them
> > > closely interact with children (and interrupt
> > the
> > > instructional time they are responsible for)?
> > And
> > > then turning their back on their
> > responsibilities.
> > > Why are they not held accountable?
> > >
> > > Why are the School Board and Administration
> not
> > > following written policies? Why is the School
> > > Board not insisting staff follow their
> > policies?
> > > This is nothing new for them. It is Dr.
> Garza's
> > > responsibility to ensure that all policies
> are
> > > enforced. That is what we pay her to do. Why
> > does
> > > she repeatedly ignore this, while being paid
> > more
> > > than the Governor? If things are not being
> > handled
> > > properly, the processes need to be fixed
> right
> > > away, NOT in three years. Maybe.
> > >
> > > It seems that the business model being used
> has
> > > children in a contest that puts a lot of
> > pressure
> > > on them to cooperate, and makes those that
> > don't
> > > (and they don't have to) feel bad. Again, a
> > policy
> > > and ethical violation.
> > >
> > > I don't have a particular problem with the
> > profit
> > > Boosterthon makes. They are just like any
> other
> > > fundraising company. They need and want to
> make
> > > money for themselves. If people don't like
> the
> > > terms, they are free to not participate, and
> > > should have minimal problem with this if it
> is
> > > done outside of school hours.
> > >
> > > This is really messed up.
> >
> > +1,000
> >
> > Now, why can't FCPS (or the school board)
> respond
> > to these concerns?
>
> They have and your group didn't like the response.
> They have more important things to do rather than
> to allow themselves to get distracted with what's
> otherwise just a small group of complainers.


Not in my case. School principal said it was referred to the Communications Office. Nothing back from them. Emails/calls to principal not returned. Emails to Communications Office not returned. Call to Communications Office, was told there was no one available to talk to.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 30, 2015 01:36PM

sorry no reply Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Call to Communications Office, was told
> there was no one available to talk to.

Hi,

So if you mean John Torre - he can be unresponsive even to other FCPS employees. If you haven't already, maybe try Ms. Reaves number instead...?
http://www.fcps.edu/cco/media.shtml

But even if you get through to her, she's highly unlikely to depart from or add anything to what's been said by anybody else at FCPS.

Another thought: Use the FCPSinfo portal. https://fcpsinfo.fcps.edu/arsys/forms/caseapprod/CORE%3APortal/Anonymous+Portal+View/?usertimezone=America%2FDetroit&cacheid=4ec690e

Statistics about FCPSinfo use and timeliness of responses are reported in the annual Monitoring Report entitled "Treatment of Community Stakeholders" provided to the Fairfax County School Board.

I wouldn't take this to mean, however, that the responses are indeed timely ( 6 weeks is not unheard of). And even then, the response you get might not be very satisfying. And then, if you send follow-up questions to whoever sent you the reply, it may well go unanswered. (The timeliness of responses of individual employees are not tracked.)

And then of course there are FOIA requests. FCPS does indeed respond to these in accordance with laws. And as such, they have the discretion to ask for payment.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: OK.......... ()
Date: September 30, 2015 02:35PM

BOYCOTT THE DAMN THING.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: ButButITried ()
Date: September 30, 2015 02:42PM

OK.......... Wrote:
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> BOYCOTT THE DAMN THING.


I tried but those kids were well trained and responded with the sad puppy dog face. It was well played and I had no other option than to spend $24 on an assortment of 3 different types of popcorn sandwiched in a tin with a cardboard divider.

I don't even like the buttery flavored one.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: sorry no reply ()
Date: September 30, 2015 03:34PM

NewHorizon Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> sorry no reply Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Call to Communications Office, was told
> > there was no one available to talk to.
>
> Hi,
>
> So if you mean John Torre - he can be unresponsive
> even to other FCPS employees. If you haven't
> already, maybe try Ms. Reaves number instead...?
>
> http://www.fcps.edu/cco/media.shtml
>
> But even if you get through to her, she's highly
> unlikely to depart from or add anything to what's
> been said by anybody else at FCPS.
>
> Another thought: Use the FCPSinfo portal.
> https://fcpsinfo.fcps.edu/arsys/forms/caseapprod/C
> ORE%3APortal/Anonymous+Portal+View/?usertimezone=A
> merica%2FDetroit&cacheid=4ec690e
>
> Statistics about FCPSinfo use and timeliness of
> responses are reported in the annual Monitoring
> Report entitled "Treatment of Community
> Stakeholders" provided to the Fairfax County
> School Board.
>
> I wouldn't take this to mean, however, that the
> responses are indeed timely ( 6 weeks is not
> unheard of). And even then, the response you get
> might not be very satisfying. And then, if you
> send follow-up questions to whoever sent you the
> reply, it may well go unanswered. (The timeliness
> of responses of individual employees are not
> tracked.)
>
> And then of course there are FOIA requests. FCPS
> does indeed respond to these in accordance with
> laws. And as such, they have the discretion to
> ask for payment.

I sent email to Guilfoyle and his assistant. The web site says Guilfoyle, recruited from the office of the Architect of the Capitol, is in charge. I spoke to his assistant, left a message, also left a message on his voicemail.

If this is being tracked, it won't look good.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 30, 2015 04:10PM

sorry no reply Wrote:
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> If this is being tracked, it won't look good.


Not being tracked.
If you use the FCPSinfo portal instead, I hope you'll report back your experience.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: keep on fighting ()
Date: September 30, 2015 04:11PM

"And then of course there are FOIA requests. FCPS does indeed respond to these in accordance with laws. And as such, they have the discretion to ask for payment."

FOIA the fuck out of them. They need the pressure of having the stupid things they do put out for the public to see.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Boosterthon works! ()
Date: September 30, 2015 04:12PM

Boosterthon haters on here have been talking about Mills Park Elementary and that they "gave Boosterthon the boot" because some parents said in a survey that they would rather do a direct donation fundraiser. Well...that's not going very well and I emailed the PTA and they said they are bringing Boosterthon back next year because participation was actually much higher with Boosterthon so it would appear overall parents supported that more. And because the direct donation fundraiser isn't going well they've even introduced prizes now. Boosterthon raises for schools what they can't raise on their own. Point proven!

From the Mills Park PTA website:

"There are only 4 days left (including today). Thank you to the 325 families and staff who have donated. We are at 52% of our goal

Each family that donates by our Oct. 2nd deadline will be entered into a drawing to win an iPad mini 2! The winner will be chosen on Oct. 5th and notified by email.

Also, for our final week, we are introducing a friendly grade level competition. The class with the highest percent participation per grade will receive a visit from Millie and a special morning treat!"

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Still better ()
Date: September 30, 2015 04:15PM

Boosterthon works! Wrote:
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> Boosterthon haters on here have been talking about
> Mills Park Elementary and that they "gave
> Boosterthon the boot" because some parents said in
> a survey that they would rather do a direct
> donation fundraiser. Well...that's not going very
> well and I emailed the PTA and they said they are
> bringing Boosterthon back next year because
> participation was actually much higher with
> Boosterthon so it would appear overall parents
> supported that more. And because the direct
> donation fundraiser isn't going well they've even
> introduced prizes now. Boosterthon raises for
> schools what they can't raise on their own. Point
> proven!
>
> From the Mills Park PTA website:
>
> "There are only 4 days left (including today).
> Thank you to the 325 families and staff who have
> donated. We are at 52% of our goal
>
> Each family that donates by our Oct. 2nd deadline
> will be entered into a drawing to win an iPad mini
> 2! The winner will be chosen on Oct. 5th and
> notified by email.
>
> Also, for our final week, we are introducing a
> friendly grade level competition. The class with
> the highest percent participation per grade will
> receive a visit from Millie and a special morning
> treat!"


I should mention that the direct donation fundraiser has been running for 3 weeks and they're still only at 52%. Boosterthon only goes for 6 days plus the weekend :)

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 30, 2015 04:24PM

Still better Wrote:
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> I should mention that the direct donation
> fundraiser has been running for 3 weeks and
> they're still only at 52%. Boosterthon only goes
> for 6 days plus the weekend :)

Yes, Booster Enterprises is excellent at making PreK-6 children very lucrative.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: The Iron Fist of Fairfax ()
Date: September 30, 2015 04:28PM

A new school board may not allow Boosterthon to return at all, or, if allowed, there will be many conditions, such as not doing it during school hours.

I don't know the situation in North Carolina. Here in Fairfax, though, people are angry about waste in the schools. What with taxes being due October 15th, the timing of Boosterthon, and other questionable FCPS vendors, is not good…

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Texas Denounces Boosterthon ()
Date: September 30, 2015 05:10PM

http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8768

It also mentions the "Change the World Foundation"-the religious organization run by Boosterthon founder, Chris Carneal.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: What? ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:25PM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> Still better Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > I should mention that the direct donation
> > fundraiser has been running for 3 weeks and
> > they're still only at 52%. Boosterthon only
> goes
> > for 6 days plus the weekend :)
>
> Yes, Booster Enterprises is excellent at making
> PreK-6 children very lucrative.

It's great at making fundraising lucrative! The parents decide if they want to include their kids in the asking for pledges part. And the fun run is fun for kids.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Be a parent ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:26PM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> Still better Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > I should mention that the direct donation
> > fundraiser has been running for 3 weeks and
> > they're still only at 52%. Boosterthon only
> goes
> > for 6 days plus the weekend :)
>
> Yes, Booster Enterprises is excellent at making
> PreK-6 children very lucrative.


You're probably one of those parents that blames McDonalds for your kids being fat...

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Really reaching there ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:31PM

Texas Denounces Boosterthon Wrote:
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> http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/forum/viewtopic
> .php?f=3&t=8768
>
> It also mentions the "Change the World
> Foundation"-the religious organization run by
> Boosterthon founder, Chris Carneal.


You realize that was 2.5 years ago right? And was only a handful of parents. Find me anything in this world that 100% of people love. That message board is hardly "Texas Denounces Boosterthon" lmao

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Something to consider ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:38PM

Really reaching there Wrote:
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> Texas Denounces Boosterthon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> http://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/forum/viewtopic
>
> > .php?f=3&t=8768
> >
> > It also mentions the "Change the World
> > Foundation"-the religious organization run by
> > Boosterthon founder, Chris Carneal.
>
>
> You realize that was 2.5 years ago right? And was
> only a handful of parents. Find me anything in
> this world that 100% of people love. That message
> board is hardly "Texas Denounces Boosterthon" lmao

And they are still using Boosterthon 2.5 years later so it's safe to assume most parents there support it. Maybe parents are just extra crabby in FFC? Or FFPS really does suck that bad and so Boosterthon is just something else for them to complain about, whereas other school systems that are run well the parents better support things they do including Boosterthon?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: September 30, 2015 08:36PM

What? Wrote:
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> It's great at making fundraising lucrative! The
> parents decide if they want to include their kids
> in the asking for pledges part. And the fun run is
> fun for kids.

Time for an in-classroom happy dance!
https://youtu.be/nQWd_e2Qkew

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Love it! ()
Date: September 30, 2015 09:11PM

NewHorizon Wrote:
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> What? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's great at making fundraising lucrative! The
> > parents decide if they want to include their
> kids
> > in the asking for pledges part. And the fun run
> is
> > fun for kids.
>
> Time for an in-classroom happy dance!
> https://youtu.be/nQWd_e2Qkew

That looks like a ton of fun for the kids! I saw a couple days of the Boosterthon program at my sons school and one of the days they did a dance party like that for the class after they did the character lesson. The dance party was about 5 minutes long and they got it because the class hit a goal on their pledge-o-meter poster. I thought it was pretty cool that they did that. That was the whole class is getting awarded rather than just kids that are getting pledges. That way kids don't feel left out if they're not raising money. A+ Boosterthon!

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: one has to wonder ()
Date: October 01, 2015 10:26AM

Love it! Wrote:
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> NewHorizon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's great at making fundraising lucrative!
> The
> > > parents decide if they want to include their
> > kids
> > > in the asking for pledges part. And the fun
> run
> > is
> > > fun for kids.
> >
> > Time for an in-classroom happy dance!
> > https://youtu.be/nQWd_e2Qkew
>
> That looks like a ton of fun for the kids! I saw a
> couple days of the Boosterthon program at my sons
> school and one of the days they did a dance party
> like that for the class after they did the
> character lesson. The dance party was about 5
> minutes long and they got it because the class hit
> a goal on their pledge-o-meter poster. I thought
> it was pretty cool that they did that. That was
> the whole class is getting awarded rather than
> just kids that are getting pledges. That way kids
> don't feel left out if they're not raising money.
> A+ Boosterthon!

Some people have what appear to be valid objections to Boosterthon, such as the use of school time and the percentage taken by Boosterthon.

But being for it because of prizes or dance parties is really questionable. The person comparing Boosterthon to the drug trade may have engaged in hyperbole, but the idea that we need to contract with people to come in and run a five minute dance party is really ridiculous, even by FCPS standards. So what is the agenda of these Boosterthon supporters? Are these people who really like the trips to Atlanta or are we seeing the work of Boosterthon employees?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Just can't win ()
Date: October 01, 2015 11:02AM

one has to wonder Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Love it! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NewHorizon Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > It's great at making fundraising lucrative!
> > The
> > > > parents decide if they want to include
> their
> > > kids
> > > > in the asking for pledges part. And the fun
> > run
> > > is
> > > > fun for kids.
> > >
> > > Time for an in-classroom happy dance!
> > > https://youtu.be/nQWd_e2Qkew
> >
> > That looks like a ton of fun for the kids! I saw
> a
> > couple days of the Boosterthon program at my
> sons
> > school and one of the days they did a dance
> party
> > like that for the class after they did the
> > character lesson. The dance party was about 5
> > minutes long and they got it because the class
> hit
> > a goal on their pledge-o-meter poster. I
> thought
> > it was pretty cool that they did that. That was
> > the whole class is getting awarded rather than
> > just kids that are getting pledges. That way
> kids
> > don't feel left out if they're not raising
> money.
> > A+ Boosterthon!
>
> Some people have what appear to be valid
> objections to Boosterthon, such as the use of
> school time and the percentage taken by
> Boosterthon.
>
> But being for it because of prizes or dance
> parties is really questionable. The person
> comparing Boosterthon to the drug trade may have
> engaged in hyperbole, but the idea that we need to
> contract with people to come in and run a five
> minute dance party is really ridiculous, even by
> FCPS standards. So what is the agenda of these
> Boosterthon supporters? Are these people who
> really like the trips to Atlanta or are we seeing
> the work of Boosterthon employees?

What I find funny is you people complain if your kids feel left out if they don't get prizes so Boosterthon responds by adding class awards to the program so all kids are included in things even if they don't raise money and yet you still complain. You complain that prizes aren't high quality but if Boosterthon bought high quality prizes they would have to giv eless of the revenue back to the school and you would complain about that.

That's the reason FCPS and others have stopped responding to you...because it doesn't matter what Booster or FCPS does, you are still going to complain.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Parent? ()
Date: October 01, 2015 11:05AM

one has to wonder Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Love it! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NewHorizon Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > It's great at making fundraising lucrative!
> > The
> > > > parents decide if they want to include
> their
> > > kids
> > > > in the asking for pledges part. And the fun
> > run
> > > is
> > > > fun for kids.
> > >
> > > Time for an in-classroom happy dance!
> > > https://youtu.be/nQWd_e2Qkew
> >
> > That looks like a ton of fun for the kids! I saw
> a
> > couple days of the Boosterthon program at my
> sons
> > school and one of the days they did a dance
> party
> > like that for the class after they did the
> > character lesson. The dance party was about 5
> > minutes long and they got it because the class
> hit
> > a goal on their pledge-o-meter poster. I
> thought
> > it was pretty cool that they did that. That was
> > the whole class is getting awarded rather than
> > just kids that are getting pledges. That way
> kids
> > don't feel left out if they're not raising
> money.
> > A+ Boosterthon!
>
> Some people have what appear to be valid
> objections to Boosterthon, such as the use of
> school time and the percentage taken by
> Boosterthon.
>
> But being for it because of prizes or dance
> parties is really questionable. The person
> comparing Boosterthon to the drug trade may have
> engaged in hyperbole, but the idea that we need to
> contract with people to come in and run a five
> minute dance party is really ridiculous, even by
> FCPS standards. So what is the agenda of these
> Boosterthon supporters? Are these people who
> really like the trips to Atlanta or are we seeing
> the work of Boosterthon employees?

From what it sounds like, I'm going to venture to guess that that was written by a parent

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: strange parent? ()
Date: October 01, 2015 01:39PM

It seems a little odd that the "parent" who spent a couple of days comments on nothing but the dance party.

The character lesson is mentioned but not discussed. Isn't this one of the cornerstones of Boosterthon? Odd that nothing is said about it.

Also odd--nothing about the Boosterthon teacher.

Boosterthon is supposed to be more than dance parties. And, what kind of dance party is only 5 minutes long?

This "parent" seems more than a little suspect.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Creating controversy ()
Date: October 01, 2015 01:52PM

strange parent? Wrote:
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> It seems a little odd that the "parent" who spent
> a couple of days comments on nothing but the dance
> party.
>
> The character lesson is mentioned but not
> discussed. Isn't this one of the cornerstones of
> Boosterthon? Odd that nothing is said about it.
>
> Also odd--nothing about the Boosterthon teacher.
>
> Boosterthon is supposed to be more than dance
> parties. And, what kind of dance party is only 5
> minutes long?
>
> This "parent" seems more than a little suspect.

I'm laughing out loud reading all this. The parent obviously responded to the post about the dance party which is why they commented on the dance party only. Your post is a prime example of trying to create controversy out of nothing. I'm assuming the dance party was only 5 minutes because it was a class award for hitting a goal on the pledge poster as the parent said. Again, you're trying to create controversy from nothing.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Creator of Controversy ()
Date: October 01, 2015 04:51PM

Even though people don't like the cookie dough and wrapping paper fundraisers, they don't stir up controversy like Boosterthon does.

There are 2 reasons for that:

1) Boosterthon has mastered the art of exploiting kids, and this includes the intrusive school presence they maintain.

2) FCPS + PTO/PTA are secretive and evasive about Boosterthon. What is this "issue is closed" crap when they keep changing the contracts? Why is it that schools don't respond, refer you to the Communications office, and then they don't respond either?

It seems to me Boosterthon AND its sponsors, the schools and PTAs/PTOs have helped make the controversy.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Like a broken record ()
Date: October 01, 2015 07:36PM

Creator of Controversy Wrote:
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> Even though people don't like the cookie dough and
> wrapping paper fundraisers, they don't stir up
> controversy like Boosterthon does.
>
> There are 2 reasons for that:
>
> 1) Boosterthon has mastered the art of exploiting
> kids, and this includes the intrusive school
> presence they maintain.
>
> 2) FCPS + PTO/PTA are secretive and evasive about
> Boosterthon. What is this "issue is closed" crap
> when they keep changing the contracts? Why is it
> that schools don't respond, refer you to the
> Communications office, and then they don't respond
> either?
>
> It seems to me Boosterthon AND its sponsors, the
> schools and PTAs/PTOs have helped make the
> controversy.

It has been said over and over on here that they don't respond to the Boosterthon thing anymore because it doesn't matter what they tell you all you still aren't satisfied. IT IS A WASTE OF THEIR TIME TO CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO YOU. What don't you get about that?? Seriously, this discussion has gone on for over 3 years on FFU..it's never ending and everyone at the school, PTA and FCPS is tired of wasting their time addressing something that your group just keeps going in circles on. But I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears and you'll keep going round and round for another three years

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: how about a response to ME? ()
Date: October 01, 2015 09:24PM

Yes, I'm a broken record, or maybe a skipping CD.

I wrote to the principal and received a response, but hang on, the response said I'd hear back from the Office of Communications.

I have heard nothing from the Office of Communications.

I have contacted the principal, who now does not reply at all.

I have emailed the Office of Communications. I have left messages there. Once, I got a live person, and was told there's no one to talk to.

I have, specifically, left a message for Matt Guilfoyle, the head of the Office of Communications. Nothing back.

I can't speak for others, but I've received no response. It is not "don't respond any more" but in my case "don't respond at at all" and there is obviously a difference.

Based on this, I have to think there's a problem with Boosterthon. The school and Office of Communications must know about my inquiry, and they're ignoring it.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Oh sweetheart----> ()
Date: October 01, 2015 09:48PM

how about a response to ME? Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm a broken record, or maybe a skipping CD.
>
> I wrote to the principal and received a response,
> but hang on, the response said I'd hear back from
> the Office of Communications.
>
> I have heard nothing from the Office of
> Communications.
>
> I have contacted the principal, who now does not
> reply at all.
>
> I have emailed the Office of Communications. I
> have left messages there. Once, I got a live
> person, and was told there's no one to talk to.
>
> I have, specifically, left a message for Matt
> Guilfoyle, the head of the Office of
> Communications. Nothing back.
>
> I can't speak for others, but I've received no
> response. It is not "don't respond any more" but
> in my case "don't respond at at all" and there is
> obviously a difference.
>
> Based on this, I have to think there's a problem
> with Boosterthon. The school and Office of
> Communications must know about my inquiry, and
> they're ignoring it.


This is how they treat the people who pay their salaries. Not to worry. This is how they treat everybody. They are very proud of how utterly rude they are.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: a very big problem ()
Date: October 02, 2015 09:11AM

Oh sweetheart----> Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> how about a response to ME? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, I'm a broken record, or maybe a skipping
> CD.
> >
> > I wrote to the principal and received a
> response,
> > but hang on, the response said I'd hear back
> from
> > the Office of Communications.
> >
> > I have heard nothing from the Office of
> > Communications.
> >
> > I have contacted the principal, who now does
> not
> > reply at all.
> >
> > I have emailed the Office of Communications. I
> > have left messages there. Once, I got a live
> > person, and was told there's no one to talk to.
> >
> > I have, specifically, left a message for Matt
> > Guilfoyle, the head of the Office of
> > Communications. Nothing back.
> >
> > I can't speak for others, but I've received no
> > response. It is not "don't respond any more"
> but
> > in my case "don't respond at at all" and there
> is
> > obviously a difference.
> >
> > Based on this, I have to think there's a
> problem
> > with Boosterthon. The school and Office of
> > Communications must know about my inquiry, and
> > they're ignoring it.
>
>
> This is how they treat the people who pay their
> salaries. Not to worry. This is how they treat
> everybody. They are very proud of how utterly rude
> they are.

This is a clear reason to vote out every single incumbent (where possible some are running unopposed) and demand that Garza, Lockard, Atwater etc. be fired and that an audit be done of this communications office. They act like this with our high taxes and Patty Reed wants to raise them?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Uh, yeh>>>> ()
Date: October 02, 2015 09:28AM

They are all arrogant, rude, greedy, they don't like being held accountable, the School Board could care less. This is unacceptable. Vote the Board out and get some people in there who expect the school staff to do their jobs properly and respond appropriately.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Have a Great Day ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:19AM

Lots of bigger problems in the world. Smile today and lighten up :)
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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Don't get it ()
Date: October 02, 2015 12:00PM

I have 5 kids in FCPS and other than FFXU, have never heard of Boosterthon.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: October 02, 2015 01:18PM

Don't get it Wrote:
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> I have 5 kids in FCPS and other than FFXU, have
> never heard of Boosterthon.

Hi,

Your elementary school's PTA/O has almost certainly been approached by Booster.
If you haven't heard of Boosterthon, then it probably means your PTA/O opted not to do Boosterthon (and you weren't in their meetings).

But yeah, for all the talk of voting out the School Board, it's just not on the radar for the many voters like yourself who've never been exposed to the issue.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: October 26, 2015 10:44AM

NewHorizon Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> But yeah, for all the talk of voting out the
> School Board, it's just not on the radar for the
> many voters like yourself who've never been
> exposed to the issue.

If I'm wrong about that, I wouldn't mind:

"I have had many voters talk to me about their concerns regarding fundraising during school hours. Also, people are concerned, as you mention, that the companies are gaining most of the profits from these activities." -Tom Wilson for FCPS School Board: Sully District

"You are not the first person to raise this concern to me. My own children's school participates in this program. I feel the reasons behind adopting the program need to be examined." -Jeanette Hough School Board

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: A Groundswell of Opposition ()
Date: October 26, 2015 10:48AM

Dalia Palchik and Pete Kurzenhauser don't like it either.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: NewHorizon ()
Date: October 26, 2015 10:49AM

Dare Taken! Wrote:
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> If there are 500 kids in a school, that's
> $16875 (average 2.5 hours for Boosterthon).

Amazingly, FCPS puts the figure at $0.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1977772/2003621.html#msg-2003621

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: word has it ()
Date: January 15, 2016 01:38PM

The Board of Supervisors has all but told Garza to knock off the fraud and waste as no extra money is coming. Further, Boosterthon was called out by name as a specific area of concern. This, despite the presence of former school board members Storck and Smith on the Board of Supervisors.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: 786 ()
Date: January 16, 2016 08:43PM

word has it Wrote:
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> The Board of Supervisors has all but told Garza to
> knock off the fraud and waste as no extra money is
> coming. Further, Boosterthon was called out by
> name as a specific area of concern. This, despite
> the presence of former school board members Storck
> and Smith on the Board of Supervisors.


Says who?

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Stamford, NOT a good school! ()
Date: January 16, 2016 10:05PM

786 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> word has it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Board of Supervisors has all but told Garza
> to
> > knock off the fraud and waste as no extra money
> is
> > coming. Further, Boosterthon was called out by
> > name as a specific area of concern. This,
> despite
> > the presence of former school board members
> Storck
> > and Smith on the Board of Supervisors.
>
>
> Says who?

Try this, loser:

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/2076956.html

It would appear that despite being made to live on campus or in school-approved housing, Stamford does a substandard job. Yes, Chris Carneal, we know it is you, and it is clear you can't read anything on your own, preferring to let Rick Warren and Joel Osteen do your thinking for you.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: james o'neal ()
Date: May 28, 2019 10:35PM

The post and the person responsible for this post is just dangerous to our children as is Boosterthon.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: ANoN_ ()
Date: April 16, 2020 02:02PM

Actually,upon hire they do have a background check. Anyone who goes to a school as part of their occupation must undergo a background check to make sure there are no crimes against children or violence. They can be sued for not doing this, so every employee goes through a check before they are fully offered a position.

Also, they do not "use" students. They teach them about character and fitness, as well as boost their eagerness to get involved with helping their school.

The argument that they use instructional time is actually hilarious. They have two options, which the principal decides on: either they can have the grades come one at a time for 15 minutes of their resource time, or teachers decide on a 5 minute block for a team member to come in for a daily update.

It's comical that you all are complaining about things you don't understand. If you want to try and raise 20k or more with a yankee candle catalog or some other generic fundraiser, good luck ;)

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: pointer outer of things ()
Date: April 16, 2020 03:44PM

I'd bet a large sum of money that we would've never heard of this "boosterthon problem" if boosterthon was run by socialist liberals, sorry, that's redundant.

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Re: Boosterthon is a Problem in Virginia
Posted by: Howard Gottlieb ()
Date: November 19, 2020 05:16PM

Our reading fundraiser at www.read-a-thon.com raises that kind of money and the school keeps most of it while focusing on reading along either at school or home.

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