People from Fairfax county are predominantly selfish, nasty people so their kids are the same way. The non English speaking students should be sent to a different school like we used to do with black kids back in the day. Yes Prince William, Stafford and Fauquier schools are getting better and better all the time and Fairfax is getting worse and worse. The trend will continue.

the schools are a lost cause. complete failure

hoo cares Wrote:
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> the schools are a lost cause. complete failure


What do you mean? Please explain. Are you a parent, educator, or both?

hoo cares Wrote:
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> the schools are a lost cause. complete failure


get rid of the admn, can't even provide a simple reply about whether a transcript has been sent, half the admn should be fired

FCPS is very transgender friendly.

Worries me that FFx schools are not being respected

Fairfax County Employee's and Teachers haven't been given a single raise and not been given competitive pay, yet the BOS just voted to give themselves a raise... how is that fair? I see all this great talent leaving to go outside of FFX - which just speaks volumes that FFX BOS doesn't give 2 matters about its staff and people

Sorry teachers at Keene Mill ES, your leader, Dr. Miller, decided to hire Boosterthon, that's where your raise money went.

transgender teacher Wrote:
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> FCPS is very transgender friendly.


Thanks Ryan!

UndercoverLatino Wrote:
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> Fairfax County Employee's and Teachers haven't
> been given a single raise and not been given
> competitive pay, yet the BOS just voted to give
> themselves a raise... how is that fair? I see all
> this great talent leaving to go outside of FFX -
> which just speaks volumes that FFX BOS doesn't
> give 2 matters about its staff and people


teachers are a dime a dozen

education is pretty much a major kids pick that is easy or if they fucked around in college too long and need an easy out

Hondo Wrote:
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> Havabite Wrote:
>
> > Right, because students carrying iPhones will
> go
> > home to homes that cannot afford a loaf of
> bread
> > and peanut butter and jelly.you naive liberals
> are
> > so entertaining
>
> Man, I would LOVE to see you stand up in a crowd
> and make that comment in public. That is a really
> stupid statement.

Insults do not add to your argument and tell me you have nothing more to say.

fed up teacher Wrote:
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> People from Fairfax county are predominantly
> selfish, nasty people so their kids are the same
> way. The non English speaking students should be
> sent to a different school like we used to do with
> black kids back in the day. Yes Prince William,
> Stafford and Fauquier schools are getting better
> and better all the time and Fairfax is getting
> worse and worse. The trend will continue.

People with money are either moving out (PWC, etc) or moving in (DC, Arl, Alex). Fairfax is the new ghetto in the middle. Need to be close to jobs, cannot afford close in or way out. Take a drive through Alexandria, Annandale, Herndon - it's poor and urban, just doesn't have the population density. But it has everything else - failing schools, poor roads, crime, etc.

Most of my teachers have to spend lots of extra time trying to help the kids who have English as their second language. American English speaking kids often get blown off when asking for a little extra help after class. Some teachers even get mad at you for asking for extra help because they feel like we should be able to understand everything because English is our first language. It sucks.

Above is a complete an utter lie by some anti-immimgrant facist. The opposite, in fact, is more likely true. Pschologically, people are more apt to help "their own." Most teachers are white middle class, and sub-consciously biased toward their ilk. Plus, teachers are teachers because they want to teach fall students, not just certain students.

someyounguy Wrote:
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> Above is a complete an utter lie by some
> anti-immimgrant facist. The opposite, in fact, is
> more likely true. Pschologically, people are more
> apt to help "their own." Most teachers are white
> middle class, and sub-consciously biased toward
> their ilk. Plus, teachers are teachers because
> they want to teach fall students, not just certain
> students.


Who are fall students?

Why R U a FAGGOT?

a kid 2 Wrote:
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> Most of my teachers have to spend lots of extra
> time trying to help the kids who have English as
> their second language. American English speaking
> kids often get blown off when asking for a little
> extra help after class. Some teachers even get mad
> at you for asking for extra help because they feel
> like we should be able to understand everything
> because English is our first language. It sucks.


That is exactly right. We are tired of trying to teach kids with poor communication skills. All the kids suffer with this even Asian kids.

I am tired of trying to teach kids who cant fucking speak English.

This is what happen when things are out of order.
If there is no order to things then how can potential be met?
Yes, allowing kids to attend school when they can't speak the language is out of order.

Also, carving up the school system would be a temporary solution, but that too is out of order and promotes more problems.

The Leaders at the Federal Level have failed us. The leaders at the local level are left to pick up the mess caused by our Federal Government which for TOO LONG neglected to enforce it's own laws.

Also, when the school board is run by People not willing to make the hard decisions which help the majority of students for fear they will be called names and labeled, then you've completely lost the fight.

The downward spiral of FCPS continues.

Pero no quiero estudiar ingles, hablo espagnol!

"Si se puede" -! HA!!! ... My ASS!!!

Every year Prince William SOL's get higher and FCPS scores get lower.

http://www.teachingdegree.org/tennessee/salary/


Check out salaries in states with low cost of living for comparison to yours.

As the minorities want, and what makes perfect sense, is to segregate schools, black - white - latin - and have teachers from the same culture and language background as the students; this would enable effective teaching.

gksduygl Wrote:
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> As the minorities want, and what makes perfect
> sense, is to segregate schools, black - white -
> latin - and have teachers from the same culture
> and language background as the students; this
> would enable effective teaching.


That IS a joke right?

If segregated teaching were an actuality we would be bankrupt. The groups would clamor over which one got more funding and which purpose, etc.

It would never happen anyway because this is unAmerican.

If minorities want this, then they should start homeschooling their kids, start Spanish speaking teaching cooperatives or go elsewhere.

What we have now is not ideal and is slowing down education in Fairfax County.

Nobody wants to touch this issue because it's "sensitive". However throwing more money at the problem isn't helping either.

Fairfax Rebels Wrote:
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> gksduygl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As the minorities want, and what makes perfect
> > sense, is to segregate schools, black - white -
> > latin - and have teachers from the same culture
> > and language background as the students; this
> > would enable effective teaching.
>
>
> That IS a joke right?
>
> If segregated teaching were an actuality we would
> be bankrupt. The groups would clamor over which
> one got more funding and which purpose, etc.
>
> It would never happen anyway because this is
> unAmerican.
>
> If minorities want this, then they should start
> homeschooling their kids, start Spanish speaking
> teaching cooperatives or go elsewhere.
>
> What we have now is not ideal and is slowing down
> education in Fairfax County.
>
> Nobody wants to touch this issue because it's
> "sensitive". However throwing more money at the
> problem isn't helping either.




If minorities want this, then they should start
homeschooling their kids, start Spanish speaking
teaching cooperatives or go elsewhere.

If Spanish speaking groups are on board, that is another group in favor of Charter Schools. If a discussion was PERMITTED I tend to believe that there would be a great deal of support for Charter Schools.

One has to wonder how culture change can be effected without some serious house cleaning. The existing management got to where they are by succeeding in the old toxic, dysfunctional corporate environment. You'd expect in a short time they will begin to revert to the behavior that got them to where they are in their careers.The school system needs get a new deputy superintendent. Steve Lockard is now overseeing human resources.... why.... is it because Susan Quinn is retiring soon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fcpss-chief-financial-officer-works-behind-the-scenes-to-help-students/2014/05/11/5c578fe2-d84e-11e3-95d3-3bcd77cd4e11_story.html?utm_term=.79a6709ca8b6

Teachers - if you are going to post here, make sure your spelling is correct. Remember the difference between "too" and "to".

When leaders act out it can have a devastating effect throughout. Who wants to work in a dysfunctional organization? No one if they can help it.

The school board at times have created a toxic environment, it decreases engagement, increases turnover, and creates other ills in the organization.

The office of the Chiefs (COO/COS/DS) and FCPS superintendent must set strategic and cultural goals, and steer the school system in the right direction to achieve their vision. Through positive attitudes and actions, they can build a culture that involves and inspires all employees but for years they just don't care.

As a teacher, I know that employees in large numbers feel they lack opportunities to express opinions and at some schools the environment has become toxic so they (a number of teachers) feel their voice is unheard, they tend to become unmotivated and start looking for the door. The teacher turnover is not because of money but who you work for.....




http://recallsandyevans.org/

OK recall Evans ..

But in the 2nd line above ..
should be School Board at times HAS created
Subject-verb agreement.

However I do believe that Sandy Evans is wasting tax dollars by wanting to "correct" or "change" history.
She apparently cannot accept reality.

It's a culture of people wearing their feelings on their sleeves ... a mental madhouse of lunatics who for some reason cannot cope because THEY are offended by the real world and how it operates.

Sandy Stop trying to play God.

Shit retirement plans, 90 and coinsurance. Kiss my ass FCPS.

Teacher123abc Wrote:
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> I am tired of trying to teach kids who cant
> fucking speak English.

I was hating that too, I left FCPS a few years ago and got a job with Fauquier county schools. I bought a little house in Culpeper where the cost of living is very low compared to Fairfax. My salary is lower but I am living better. Best move I ever made.

The teachers in Fairfax County are a bunch of over paid, under worked and lazy liberals. They get paid an over exaggerated salary and still want more.

Tired of liberals Wrote:
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> The teachers in Fairfax County are a bunch of over
> paid, under worked and lazy liberals. They get
> paid an over exaggerated salary and still want
> more.

That is SO awesome that you feel that way! Keep paying those taxes on time please.

What pisses me off is that half of the maintenance staff like plumbers, electricians and HVAC men get paid MORE than the teachers and have the same benefits and retirement. Yes, they work 12 months but it is still unfair that a toolbox carrying thug with no college degree gets paid more than I do.

teacher longtime Wrote:
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> What pisses me off is that half of the maintenance
> staff like plumbers, electricians and HVAC men get
> paid MORE than the teachers and have the same
> benefits and retirement. Yes, they work 12 months
> but it is still unfair that a toolbox carrying
> thug with no college degree gets paid more than I
> do.

We may make more money but we actually work unlike you.

I am being asked to come out of retirement and substitute teach in FCPS due to a teacher shortage. Seems like the young teachers wait till summer break is almost over before putting in their notice. We lose teachers to Arlington, Prince William and Loudoun every year. I am willing to go in and help out for a month or so I guess. Sooner or later Fairfax is going to have to take care of its teachers.

My sons teachers are ridiculous - they have been for the past 3 years. They whine and cry parents dont do enough. Yet when I do get involved and ask them to keep me updated on homework, tests, behavior they cant be bothered to send a weekly email out. When I get concerned about not seeing work come home they always have an excuse. Teachers do not care anymore point blank period.

LBSS retired. Wrote:
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> I am being asked to come out of retirement and
> substitute teach in FCPS due to a teacher
> shortage. Seems like the young teachers wait till
> summer break is almost over before putting in
> their notice. We lose teachers to Arlington,
> Prince William and Loudoun every year. I am
> willing to go in and help out for a month or so I
> guess. Sooner or later Fairfax is going to have to
> take care of its teachers.

They do not put in their notice until summer break because that is when they find out whether or not they are getting a school transfer they put in for or a job with another county they applied for. You want them to put in their notice before finding out either and then be left without a chair when the music stops? They are not young and stupid, they are looking out for themselves because the County or the union surely will not do so.

Just remember. Your PE teacher does not need a degree.

we33g Wrote:
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> LBSS retired. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am being asked to come out of retirement and
> > substitute teach in FCPS due to a teacher
> > shortage. Seems like the young teachers wait
> till
> > summer break is almost over before putting in
> > their notice. We lose teachers to Arlington,
> > Prince William and Loudoun every year. I am
> > willing to go in and help out for a month or so
> I
> > guess. Sooner or later Fairfax is going to have
> to
> > take care of its teachers.
>
> They do not put in their notice until summer break
> because that is when they find out whether or not
> they are getting a school transfer they put in for
> or a job with another county they applied for. You
> want them to put in their notice before finding
> out either and then be left without a chair when
> the music stops? They are not young and stupid,
> they are looking out for themselves because the
> County or the union surely will not do so.


Never said I "wanted" them to do anything, just stated a fact. Arlington county teaching jobs are like solid gold to these young teachers. If they are forced to live in this area Arlington or Loudoun is where they want to teach. That is one of the reasons FCPS continues to decline. Prince William schools are on their way up and will probably surpass Fairfax in a few years.

Nardos’s Wig Wrote:
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> Just remember. Your PE teacher does not need a
> degree.

I believe we are at the point where the premise that a degree means something has been disproven. Any knucklehead can apply for Government loans/grants and sit through classes for four years. Impress me with something other than a piece of paper.

Nothing has improved in FCPS since the very first post 4½ years ago. FCPS continues its rapid decline to PG County level schools. Fauquier remains 85% white and kicking ass. Liberals continue to embrace diversity while their school system and county services implode. Liberals are stupid.

teacher longtime Wrote:
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> a toolbox carrying
> thug with no college degree


...are the people who's taxes pay your salary, jackass.

I can't believe someone with your class hatred teaches children.
Move to India where class discrimination is institutional, you'll fit right in.

No teacher EVER gets a vacation. They are lad off Xmas etc. they are paid ONLY for days worked period,

Please teach these kids, all of them - including US born white kids - how to spell and write in their native language! Millennials in the workplace, who received educations from Fairfax County, Loudoun County, UVa and VT, cannot spell or write basic documents! Where are the English teachers? Illiteracy is epidemic.

pulese Wrote:
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> Please teach these kids, all of them - including
> US born white kids - how to spell and write in
> their native language! Millennials in the
> workplace, who received educations from Fairfax
> County, Loudoun County, UVa and VT, cannot spell
> or write basic documents! Where are the English
> teachers? Illiteracy is epidemic.

The sad truth is that nobody cares about that kind of stuff any longer.

1. Taxes skyrocket;
2. Lots of empty real estate to fill, as middle class begins to flee south and west.
3. Hordes of afflicted MS-13 and illegals brought in to the newly minted "sanctuary county" for Fairfux;
4. Hordes of afflicted MS-13 make tons of money selling dope and sex to the moneyed class. They don't declare their earnings or pay taxes because per the gubermint, "they don't exist"
5. Tax collection trends ominously downward;
6. Gubermint begins moving their assets to the US hinterlands to get off the coast before the coming earth changes flood the area to the Appalachian mountain ridges. (Tsunamis in the Atlantic, earthquakes, large asteroids, etc), leaving even less tax-paying citizenry in the area. More holes to fill with poverty stricken illegals from SA, Africa and China. Still fewer taxes collected, raise more taxes.
No money for teachers. Wise teachers retire and flee the area. Intelligent teachers apply for jobs in other states where there is the money there to pay them ...for new...

teacher from wayback Wrote:
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> pulese Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Please teach these kids, all of them -
> including
> > US born white kids - how to spell and write in
> > their native language! Millennials in the
> > workplace, who received educations from Fairfax
> > County, Loudoun County, UVa and VT, cannot
> spell
> > or write basic documents! Where are the English
> > teachers? Illiteracy is epidemic.
>
> The sad truth is that nobody cares about that kind
> of stuff any longer.

I no longer pay much attention to the FCPS because they ARE a lost cause. It will not matter if they have the highest pay in the area for teachers because the schools have lost focus, do not give a shit about the ordinary kid that needs no specific help other than the attention of a good teacher and the School Board is now occupied by people more interested in using the position as a spring board for higher office. Pay no attention to the "for the kids" rhetoric...the School Board is "for themselves and what they can extract from their position.

a kid 2 Wrote:
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> Most of my teachers have to spend lots of extra
> time trying to help the kids who have English as
> their second language. American English speaking
> kids often get blown off when asking for a little
> extra help after class. Some teachers even get mad
> at you for asking for extra help because they feel
> like we should be able to understand everything
> because English is our first language. It sucks.

Poor you!

If you send your kids to public school you are a failure as a parent.

I believe you meant to call yourself "Gated Basement".

> I no longer pay much attention to the FCPS because
> they ARE a lost cause. It will not matter if they
> have the highest pay in the area for teachers
> because the schools have lost focus, do not give a
> shit about the ordinary kid that needs no specific
> help other than the attention of a good teacher
> and the School Board is now occupied by people
> more interested in using the position as a spring
> board for higher office. Pay no attention to the
> "for the kids" rhetoric...the School Board is "for
> themselves and what they can extract from their
> position.

Agree!

Inquisitive One Wrote:
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>
> I no longer pay much attention to the FCPS because
> they ARE a lost cause. It will not matter if they
> have the highest pay in the area for teachers
> because the schools have lost focus, do not give a
> shit about the ordinary kid that needs no specific
> help other than the attention of a good teacher
> and the School Board is now occupied by people
> more interested in using the position as a spring
> board for higher office. Pay no attention to the
> "for the kids" rhetoric...the School Board is "for
> themselves and what they can extract from their
> position.


You sound like the typical taxpayer who just bitches no matter the issue. Meanwhile people like me will continue to educate our young people in a professional manor despite your negativity.