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Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Another
()
Date: March 23, 2015 01:36AM
Another example of stalking and harassment of poster
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1744685.html
Original thread by Michael with stalking pictures recently deleted
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1743626.html
Photo evidence saved by victim
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1790232/1790232.html#msg-1790232
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1744685.html
Original thread by Michael with stalking pictures recently deleted
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1743626.html
Photo evidence saved by victim
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1790232/1790232.html#msg-1790232
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
wxVjT
()
Date: March 23, 2015 05:28AM
all of the above is useless unless you give them to miz or take mikey to court
so what are you doing with thi s shit except reposting it where no one cares?
so what are you doing with thi s shit except reposting it where no one cares?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Curious / Skeptical
()
Date: March 23, 2015 05:33PM
eesh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney will also point out that emotional
> distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need
> for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia
> law when there has been no physical contact.
Would love to see a cite for this proposition.
Without looking it up, I seem to recall that bystander emotional distress and/or strict product liability ED claims may have some such physical contact limitation, but I don't recall that any of the Miz claims are in the nature of bystander claims (obviously, none of the claims have anything to do with product liability).
> He can also point out that since emotional distress
> is central to the tort of defamation, you cannot
> sue for both defamation and emotional
> distress.
This is nonsense.
Among other things, emotional distress is *not* central to the tort of defamation. Specifically, it's not an element of the tort, which rests upon harm to one's *reputation*, not emotional distress.
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/virginia-defamation-law
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> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney will also point out that emotional
> distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need
> for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia
> law when there has been no physical contact.
Would love to see a cite for this proposition.
Without looking it up, I seem to recall that bystander emotional distress and/or strict product liability ED claims may have some such physical contact limitation, but I don't recall that any of the Miz claims are in the nature of bystander claims (obviously, none of the claims have anything to do with product liability).
> He can also point out that since emotional distress
> is central to the tort of defamation, you cannot
> sue for both defamation and emotional
> distress.
This is nonsense.
Among other things, emotional distress is *not* central to the tort of defamation. Specifically, it's not an element of the tort, which rests upon harm to one's *reputation*, not emotional distress.
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/virginia-defamation-law
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
william moreno's pedophile talk
()
Date: March 23, 2015 11:56PM
Autism Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The biggest issue that's going to come into play
> is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a person
> he knew had developmental issues. No matter what
> Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not the
> one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> Asp-burgers Syndrome.
He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple baby rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No jury will sympathize with that shit.
And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too. She is defending his pedo talk by paying for a lawyer to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued for herself and it affecting her, that's one thing. But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker getting busted by Dateline before long.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The biggest issue that's going to come into play
> is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a person
> he knew had developmental issues. No matter what
> Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not the
> one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> Asp-burgers Syndrome.
He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple baby rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No jury will sympathize with that shit.
And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too. She is defending his pedo talk by paying for a lawyer to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued for herself and it affecting her, that's one thing. But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker getting busted by Dateline before long.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
eesh watch '15
()
Date: March 23, 2015 11:57PM
Hi eesh
User Profile : eesh
Email: Hidden
Real Name: Jackalope
Posts: 53,032
Registered: 07/23/2009 12:10PM
Last Activity: 03/23/2015 11:52PM
User Profile : eesh
Email: Hidden
Real Name: Jackalope
Posts: 53,032
Registered: 07/23/2009 12:10PM
Last Activity: 03/23/2015 11:52PM
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4wbdW
()
Date: March 24, 2015 12:03AM
william moreno's pedophile talk Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Autism Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The biggest issue that's going to come into
> play
> > is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a
> person
> > he knew had developmental issues. No matter
> what
> > Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not
> the
> > one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> > Asp-burgers Syndrome.
>
>
> He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple baby
> rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No jury
> will sympathize with that shit.
> And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his
> pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too. She
> is defending his pedo talk by paying for a lawyer
> to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued for
> herself and it affecting her, that's one thing.
> But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker getting
> busted by Dateline before long.
that's a fair based opinion you have but misery left his postings online and didn't take it offline the way eesh did and misery is not the one on trial. it was not up to eesh to exact any vigilante justice over someone because they posted sick things online. eesh posts about women being raped and murdered all the time. so is he deserving of the same harrassment? if he was so offended about the pedo post then he should have done what any normal and level headed civilized person would have done and reported it to the authorities. there is no eesh for what eesh did.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Autism Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The biggest issue that's going to come into
> play
> > is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a
> person
> > he knew had developmental issues. No matter
> what
> > Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not
> the
> > one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> > Asp-burgers Syndrome.
>
>
> He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple baby
> rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No jury
> will sympathize with that shit.
> And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his
> pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too. She
> is defending his pedo talk by paying for a lawyer
> to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued for
> herself and it affecting her, that's one thing.
> But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker getting
> busted by Dateline before long.
that's a fair based opinion you have but misery left his postings online and didn't take it offline the way eesh did and misery is not the one on trial. it was not up to eesh to exact any vigilante justice over someone because they posted sick things online. eesh posts about women being raped and murdered all the time. so is he deserving of the same harrassment? if he was so offended about the pedo post then he should have done what any normal and level headed civilized person would have done and reported it to the authorities. there is no eesh for what eesh did.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
excuse
()
Date: March 24, 2015 12:05AM
excuse*
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
TxH4M
()
Date: March 24, 2015 12:24AM
If everyone on this website harassed someone and their family in real life because they didn't like something someone else posted on here then nearly everyone here and their families would be harrassed in real life..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
amen
()
Date: March 24, 2015 12:27AM
TxH4M Wrote:
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> If everyone on this website harassed someone and
> their family in real life because they didn't like
> something someone else posted on here then nearly
> everyone here and their families would be
> harrassed in real life..
+1
-------------------------------------------------------
> If everyone on this website harassed someone and
> their family in real life because they didn't like
> something someone else posted on here then nearly
> everyone here and their families would be
> harrassed in real life..
+1
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Abuse against women
()
Date: March 24, 2015 04:37AM
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
WcF3p
()
Date: March 24, 2015 04:43AM
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 31, 2012 01:15AM
I wish lizzie would get an abusive boyfriend.....
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 31, 2012 01:15AM
I wish lizzie would get an abusive boyfriend.....
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
the lesser of two evils?
()
Date: March 24, 2015 05:03AM
eesh < misery
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
lesser of two evils
()
Date: March 24, 2015 05:05AM
misery > eesh
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
A simple question
()
Date: March 24, 2015 01:46PM
eesh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So what can an awesome personal injury and medica
> malpractice attorney that really understands tort
> law do for internet defamation claims?
I assume this flattering if not fawning description of your attorney was written with an
eye towards his reading your words, i.e., this is eesh in charm mode -- demonstrating
the sociopath's "seductive... affable... personable" side.
Fair enough. After all, flattery works, even when (as here) "accompanied by obvious
ulterior motives".
I do wonder, however, whether you've advised your attorney of what he's in for once
his name is made known to the denizens of Fairfax Underground?
Whether you've advised him of the heaping portions of abuse, ridicule and contempt that
will be heaped on his head?
Mr. Leiser, having been through the FU ringer, knew full well what he was getting into.
Does your guy, eesh?
I rather think not, given your coy refusal to name him (thus delaying, for the time being,
the inevitable FU attacks), while simultaneously praising him to the skies.
Perhaps you want to ensure his commitment to your cause before exposing him to
the kind of vicious, no-holds-or-orifices-barred attacks for which FU is justly famous,
and of which you are a notably gifted practitioner?
I wonder, too, if he knows just how big a creep, and just how creepy you are?
Or of your status as a long-time stalker who boasts about your stalking activities?
Or how you like to threaten people, most notably by sending them pictures of your
guns with personal messages attached?
I notice he's a PI and med-mal attorney, not a criminal lawyer.
In other words, a genteel type, as lawyers go, in both the nature of his practice and
the class of citizens he is used to working with.
Does he really understand what he's gotten himself into in hooking up with you?
-------------------------------------------------------
> So what can an awesome personal injury and medica
> malpractice attorney that really understands tort
> law do for internet defamation claims?
I assume this flattering if not fawning description of your attorney was written with an
eye towards his reading your words, i.e., this is eesh in charm mode -- demonstrating
the sociopath's "seductive... affable... personable" side.
Fair enough. After all, flattery works, even when (as here) "accompanied by obvious
ulterior motives".
I do wonder, however, whether you've advised your attorney of what he's in for once
his name is made known to the denizens of Fairfax Underground?
Whether you've advised him of the heaping portions of abuse, ridicule and contempt that
will be heaped on his head?
Mr. Leiser, having been through the FU ringer, knew full well what he was getting into.
Does your guy, eesh?
I rather think not, given your coy refusal to name him (thus delaying, for the time being,
the inevitable FU attacks), while simultaneously praising him to the skies.
Perhaps you want to ensure his commitment to your cause before exposing him to
the kind of vicious, no-holds-or-orifices-barred attacks for which FU is justly famous,
and of which you are a notably gifted practitioner?
I wonder, too, if he knows just how big a creep, and just how creepy you are?
Or of your status as a long-time stalker who boasts about your stalking activities?
Or how you like to threaten people, most notably by sending them pictures of your
guns with personal messages attached?
I notice he's a PI and med-mal attorney, not a criminal lawyer.
In other words, a genteel type, as lawyers go, in both the nature of his practice and
the class of citizens he is used to working with.
Does he really understand what he's gotten himself into in hooking up with you?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
A simple answer
()
Date: March 24, 2015 06:23PM
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Kuchinsky
()
Date: March 24, 2015 06:29PM
A simple question Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So what can an awesome personal injury and
> medica
> > malpractice attorney that really understands
> tort
> > law do for internet defamation claims?
>
>
> I assume this flattering if not fawning
> description of your attorney was written with an
> eye towards his reading your words, i.e., this is
> eesh in charm mode -- demonstrating
> the sociopath's href="http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/12/psych
> opaths_are_charming.html">"seductive... affable...
> personable" side.
>
> Fair enough. After all, href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fl
> attery-will-get-you-far/">flattery works, even
> when (as here) "accompanied by obvious
> ulterior motives".
>
> I do wonder, however, whether you've advised your
> attorney of what he's in for once
> his name is made known to the denizens of Fairfax
> Underground?
>
> Whether you've advised him of the heaping portions
> of abuse, ridicule and contempt that
> will be heaped on his head?
>
> Mr. Leiser, having been through the FU ringer,
> knew full well what he was getting into.
>
> Does your guy, eesh?
>
> I rather think not, given your coy refusal to name
> him (thus delaying, for the time being,
> the inevitable FU attacks), while simultaneously
> praising him to the skies.
>
> Perhaps you want to ensure his commitment to your
> cause before exposing him to
> the kind of vicious, no-holds-or-orifices-barred
> attacks for which FU is justly famous,
> and of which you are a notably gifted
> practitioner?
>
> I wonder, too, if he knows href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/1282195/1283239.html#msg-1283239">just how big
> a creep, and href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file
> .php?40,file=93817,filename=crazyconnie.jpg">just
> how creepy you are?
>
> Or of your status as href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/176081/176101.html#msg-176101">a long-time
> stalker who href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/921831/923021.html#msg-923021">boasts
> about your href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/1034853/1034927.html#msg-1034927">stalking
> activities?
>
> Or how you like to threaten people, most notably
> by sending them pictures of your
> guns with personal messages attached?
>
> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=86078,filename=Michael_Josef_Basl_Rich
> mond_Henrico_VA1.png" width="500">
>
>
> I notice he's a PI and med-mal attorney, not a
> criminal lawyer.
>
> In other words, a genteel type, as lawyers go, in
> both the nature of his practice and
> the class of citizens he is used to working with.
>
> Does he really understand what he's gotten himself
> into in hooking up with you?
>
> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=51148,filename=060.JPG"
> height="180"> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=87523,filename=Michael_Josef_Basl_Rich
> mond_Henrico_VA_8106_Strath_Road.jpg"
> height="180"> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=164984,filename=fuuuuuuuuuuuu.jpg"
> height="180"> src="http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l617/chuc
> khoffmann/Michael%20Josef%20Basl/CAM00193.jpg"
> height="180">
-------------------------------------------------------
> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So what can an awesome personal injury and
> medica
> > malpractice attorney that really understands
> tort
> > law do for internet defamation claims?
>
>
> I assume this flattering if not fawning
> description of your attorney was written with an
> eye towards his reading your words, i.e., this is
> eesh in charm mode -- demonstrating
> the sociopath's href="http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/12/psych
> opaths_are_charming.html">"seductive... affable...
> personable" side.
>
> Fair enough. After all, href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fl
> attery-will-get-you-far/">flattery works, even
> when (as here) "accompanied by obvious
> ulterior motives".
>
> I do wonder, however, whether you've advised your
> attorney of what he's in for once
> his name is made known to the denizens of Fairfax
> Underground?
>
> Whether you've advised him of the heaping portions
> of abuse, ridicule and contempt that
> will be heaped on his head?
>
> Mr. Leiser, having been through the FU ringer,
> knew full well what he was getting into.
>
> Does your guy, eesh?
>
> I rather think not, given your coy refusal to name
> him (thus delaying, for the time being,
> the inevitable FU attacks), while simultaneously
> praising him to the skies.
>
> Perhaps you want to ensure his commitment to your
> cause before exposing him to
> the kind of vicious, no-holds-or-orifices-barred
> attacks for which FU is justly famous,
> and of which you are a notably gifted
> practitioner?
>
> I wonder, too, if he knows href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/1282195/1283239.html#msg-1283239">just how big
> a creep, and href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file
> .php?40,file=93817,filename=crazyconnie.jpg">just
> how creepy you are?
>
> Or of your status as href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/176081/176101.html#msg-176101">a long-time
> stalker who href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/921831/923021.html#msg-923021">boasts
> about your href="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read
> /40/1034853/1034927.html#msg-1034927">stalking
> activities?
>
> Or how you like to threaten people, most notably
> by sending them pictures of your
> guns with personal messages attached?
>
> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=86078,filename=Michael_Josef_Basl_Rich
> mond_Henrico_VA1.png" width="500">
>
>
> I notice he's a PI and med-mal attorney, not a
> criminal lawyer.
>
> In other words, a genteel type, as lawyers go, in
> both the nature of his practice and
> the class of citizens he is used to working with.
>
> Does he really understand what he's gotten himself
> into in hooking up with you?
>
> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=51148,filename=060.JPG"
> height="180"> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=87523,filename=Michael_Josef_Basl_Rich
> mond_Henrico_VA_8106_Strath_Road.jpg"
> height="180"> src="http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.
> php?40,file=164984,filename=fuuuuuuuuuuuu.jpg"
> height="180"> src="http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l617/chuc
> khoffmann/Michael%20Josef%20Basl/CAM00193.jpg"
> height="180">
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
@ Mr Kuchinsky
()
Date: March 25, 2015 12:25AM
I see you have quoted the entirety of my post.
Please do read it carefully, including the linked material.
Also, you should consider registering your name to ensure nobody else can use it.
I am not a fan of your client (indeed, I had occasion to remark earlier this evening upon the latest of his many unseemly actions directed at the Moreno family, here), but I have a highest regard for the legal profession when it acts consistent with the rules of professional conduct, and such other rules and strictures as are incumbent upon members of the Viriginia Bar.
Please do read it carefully, including the linked material.
Also, you should consider registering your name to ensure nobody else can use it.
I am not a fan of your client (indeed, I had occasion to remark earlier this evening upon the latest of his many unseemly actions directed at the Moreno family, here), but I have a highest regard for the legal profession when it acts consistent with the rules of professional conduct, and such other rules and strictures as are incumbent upon members of the Viriginia Bar.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
7jmyC
()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:25AM
william moreno's pedophile talk Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Autism Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The biggest issue that's going to come into
> play
> > is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a
> person
> > he knew had developmental issues. No matter
> what
> > Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not
> the
> > one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> > Asp-burgers Syndrome.
>
>
> He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple baby
> rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No jury
> will sympathize with that shit.
> And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his
> pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too. She
> is defending his pedo talk by paying for a lawyer
> to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued for
> herself and it affecting her, that's one thing.
> But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker getting
> busted by Dateline before long.
read the thread, which you obviously have not, and notice the FIRST POST states that fucking a baby is reprehensible
it would be the same as me typing " I want to punch an old lady in the face" - "but I know that would be a terrible thing to do"
and then being labelled an "old lady puncher" by all those who never read the OP
-------------------------------------------------------
> Autism Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The biggest issue that's going to come into
> play
> > is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a
> person
> > he knew had developmental issues. No matter
> what
> > Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not
> the
> > one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> > Asp-burgers Syndrome.
>
>
> He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple baby
> rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No jury
> will sympathize with that shit.
> And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his
> pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too. She
> is defending his pedo talk by paying for a lawyer
> to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued for
> herself and it affecting her, that's one thing.
> But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker getting
> busted by Dateline before long.
read the thread, which you obviously have not, and notice the FIRST POST states that fucking a baby is reprehensible
it would be the same as me typing " I want to punch an old lady in the face" - "but I know that would be a terrible thing to do"
and then being labelled an "old lady puncher" by all those who never read the OP
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
^
()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:01AM
Pedo defender
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Nostradamus
()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:40AM
7jmyC Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> william moreno's pedophile talk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Autism Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The biggest issue that's going to come into
> > play
> > > is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a
> > person
> > > he knew had developmental issues. No matter
> > what
> > > Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not
> > the
> > > one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> > > Asp-burgers Syndrome.
> >
> >
> > He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple
> baby
> > rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No
> jury
> > will sympathize with that shit.
> > And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his
> > pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too.
> She
> > is defending his pedo talk by paying for a
> lawyer
> > to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued
> for
> > herself and it affecting her, that's one thing.
> > But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker
> getting
> > busted by Dateline before long.
>
>
> read the thread, which you obviously have not, and
> notice the FIRST POST states that fucking a baby
> is reprehensible
>
> it would be the same as me typing " I want to
> punch an old lady in the face" - "but I know that
> would be a terrible thing to do"
>
> and then being labelled an "old lady puncher" by
> all those who never read the OP
You're a fucking old lady puncher and a bitch
-------------------------------------------------------
> william moreno's pedophile talk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Autism Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The biggest issue that's going to come into
> > play
> > > is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a
> > person
> > > he knew had developmental issues. No matter
> > what
> > > Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not
> > the
> > > one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> > > Asp-burgers Syndrome.
> >
> >
> > He harassed a sick fuck who started multiple
> baby
> > rape posts. Misery demanded a jury trial. No
> jury
> > will sympathize with that shit.
> > And misery is a grown man too. Fuck him and his
> > pedophile fantasies. And fuck his momma too.
> She
> > is defending his pedo talk by paying for a
> lawyer
> > to sue for him. Allowing the shit. If she sued
> for
> > herself and it affecting her, that's one thing.
> > But we may hear of the sick Moreno fucker
> getting
> > busted by Dateline before long.
>
>
> read the thread, which you obviously have not, and
> notice the FIRST POST states that fucking a baby
> is reprehensible
>
> it would be the same as me typing " I want to
> punch an old lady in the face" - "but I know that
> would be a terrible thing to do"
>
> and then being labelled an "old lady puncher" by
> all those who never read the OP
You're a fucking old lady puncher and a bitch
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Look up pedophile
()
Date: March 25, 2015 06:39AM
A pedophile is someone that sexually desires small children, right? So wanting to fuck a baby, even if you knew it was wrong and didn't followthrough, is pedophilia.
Punching is a physical act you must commit. sexual desire isn't.
Punching is a physical act you must commit. sexual desire isn't.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Chent
()
Date: March 25, 2015 12:15PM
Oooooh chit
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
William Moreno was only joking
()
Date: March 25, 2015 12:30PM
All of you knew that Misery was only joking, but you insist that his posts make him a pedophile. The following were intended for humor, and cannot be used in a court of law or by any police officer. If you want to say something, no matter how vulgar or threatening, if you add "I was only joking", no one can act on your statements.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?40,632140,634725,quote=1
want to fuck a baby up the ass
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 24, 2011 12:23AM
(not really.....I mean, come on....that would be absolutely reprehensible...)
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?40,663195,664942,quote=1
Re: help find mr. misery
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: September 01, 2011 11:12PM
I spent a few days in Jessup for fucking a baby in a no-parking zone. It's all cleared up now. ProVallone bailed me out and paid the ticket.
the baby didn't make it.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/656161/656214.html#msg-656214
Re: World Internet Statistics
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: August 22, 2011 11:45PM
I just fucked a baby in its tight little asshole. And he loved every minute of it.
allegedly.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636834.html#msg-636834
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 29, 2011 03:02AM
I'm about to fuck a baby in his soft spot.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636766.html#msg-636766
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 29, 2011 12:42AM
one time, I was fucking this baby up the ass, it was crying so I started shaking it. It stopped crying, I came inside it, put it back in its crib, then climbed out the window. I wonder what ever happened to that baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/632214.html#msg-632214
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 24, 2011 01:04AM
hamtaro, wanna help me fuck this baby?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/625479.html#msg-625479
Re: fuck me!
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 15, 2011 10:50PM
I just fucked a baby
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?40,632140,634725,quote=1
want to fuck a baby up the ass
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 24, 2011 12:23AM
(not really.....I mean, come on....that would be absolutely reprehensible...)
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?40,663195,664942,quote=1
Re: help find mr. misery
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: September 01, 2011 11:12PM
I spent a few days in Jessup for fucking a baby in a no-parking zone. It's all cleared up now. ProVallone bailed me out and paid the ticket.
the baby didn't make it.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/656161/656214.html#msg-656214
Re: World Internet Statistics
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: August 22, 2011 11:45PM
I just fucked a baby in its tight little asshole. And he loved every minute of it.
allegedly.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636834.html#msg-636834
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 29, 2011 03:02AM
I'm about to fuck a baby in his soft spot.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636766.html#msg-636766
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 29, 2011 12:42AM
one time, I was fucking this baby up the ass, it was crying so I started shaking it. It stopped crying, I came inside it, put it back in its crib, then climbed out the window. I wonder what ever happened to that baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/632214.html#msg-632214
Re: Fairfax Underground After Dark
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 24, 2011 01:04AM
hamtaro, wanna help me fuck this baby?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/625479.html#msg-625479
Re: fuck me!
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: July 15, 2011 10:50PM
I just fucked a baby
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Kgkd
()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:15PM
Hahahaha good one!!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Oh the laughs!
()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:18PM
Did you know if you download child porn "as a joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Durf2524868104284682#
()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:35PM
Oh the laughs! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Did you know if you download child porn "as a
> joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
This is defamation against Misery and has been reported to Phillip Leiser. You want to fuck around and treat this as a joke. We'll see who gets the last laugh.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Did you know if you download child porn "as a
> joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
This is defamation against Misery and has been reported to Phillip Leiser. You want to fuck around and treat this as a joke. We'll see who gets the last laugh.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Discredited
()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:29PM
The harrassment claim made against Misery happened much after this lawsuit was filed.
How is this lawsuit was frivolously made in an effort to prevent you from proceeding in a criminal trial against Misery if these claims you made against him hadn't even happened yet?
Also, if these claims were true, nothing would have prevented you from proceeding in a case against him. Oddly enough your case against him has already been thrown out.
Eesh posted the lawsuit thread on Jan 27. Misery was arrested Feb 2.
How is this lawsuit was frivolously made in an effort to prevent you from proceeding in a criminal trial against Misery if these claims you made against him hadn't even happened yet?
Also, if these claims were true, nothing would have prevented you from proceeding in a case against him. Oddly enough your case against him has already been thrown out.
Eesh posted the lawsuit thread on Jan 27. Misery was arrested Feb 2.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4X3Jt
()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:01PM
Is this an excerpt from a pleading that was actually filed with the court?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
I sure hope not
()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:06PM
Posted by Eesh himself:
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1819851/1821364.html#msg-1821364
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1819851/1821364.html#msg-1821364
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Oh the laughs!
()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:22PM
Durf2524868104284682# Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Oh the laughs! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did you know if you download child porn "as a
> > joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
>
>
> This is defamation against Misery and has been
> reported to Phillip Leiser. You want to fuck
> around and treat this as a joke. We'll see who
> gets the last laugh.
ok, ok, I was just joking, you will be arrested if you download child porn.
how can I defame someone i didn't even mention?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Oh the laughs! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did you know if you download child porn "as a
> > joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
>
>
> This is defamation against Misery and has been
> reported to Phillip Leiser. You want to fuck
> around and treat this as a joke. We'll see who
> gets the last laugh.
ok, ok, I was just joking, you will be arrested if you download child porn.
how can I defame someone i didn't even mention?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
"me"
()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:36PM
Oh the laughs! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > > Did you know if you download child porn "as a
> > > joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
> how can I defame someone i didn't even mention?
I know that second "you" was aimed at me.
Don't ask me how I know.
Just be aware that the sheriff will soon be making a "service call" to your humble abode.
And he wouldn't be there to fix the plumbing.
-------------------------------------------------------
> > > Did you know if you download child porn "as a
> > > joke" you totally don't have to go to jail!?
> how can I defame someone i didn't even mention?
I know that second "you" was aimed at me.
Don't ask me how I know.
Just be aware that the sheriff will soon be making a "service call" to your humble abode.
And he wouldn't be there to fix the plumbing.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4X3Jt
()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:38PM
I sure hope not Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Posted by Eesh himself:
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1819851/1821364.html#msg-1821364
Well, I don't see that particular excerpt (i.e., paragraph 2, followed by "WHEREFORE") at the link, or below it.
It is posted in the off-topic thread, "Important question in Misery vs Eesh case," but not by eesh.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1823696.html
-------------------------------------------------------
> Posted by Eesh himself:
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1819851/1821364.html#msg-1821364
Well, I don't see that particular excerpt (i.e., paragraph 2, followed by "WHEREFORE") at the link, or below it.
It is posted in the off-topic thread, "Important question in Misery vs Eesh case," but not by eesh.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1823696.html
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Here you go
()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:01PM
Sorry, going through Eesh's 53,043 posts is hard work
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1521830/1821482.html#msg-1821482
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1521830/1821482.html#msg-1821482
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4X3Jt
()
Date: March 25, 2015 07:34PM
Here you go Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, going through Eesh's 53,043 posts is hard
> work
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/15
> 21830/1821482.html#msg-1821482
Thanks.
It's not entirely clear from the link that this motion was actual filed.
Assuming for the sake of argument that it was, one would have to see the motion in its entirety to pass proper judgment.
That said, absent a mole in Leiser's office feeding information to the defendant,* or the defendant having hacked into the Leiser computer system,* I can see no possible factual basis for the assertion in paragraph 2, which rests upon the hypothetical existence of emails that the defendant cannot possibly have had access to, and thus cannot know even exist, except as a matter of pure speculation.
*Both of these things would require a gross violation of law; thus, to the extent defendant may have such evidence, defendant would risk criminal prosecution by submitting it to the court.
An allegation or claim based on pure speculation, however, is not a good-faith basis for a pleading. As the court explained in Benitez, although the rule can be somewhat flexible depending on the circumstances, purely speculative, non-evidence-based pleading does not satisfy Section 8.01-271's due diligence standard.
Further, any discovery relating to proof of the paragraph 2 allegation - and there is no basis for discovery to proceed, given the entirely speculative nature of the claim - would necessarily rest on the extraordinary and rare requirement of a court ordering the piercing or abrogation of the attorney-client privilege. Which only occurs, so far as I know, where there is evidence of a fraud on the court -- not mere fraud, mind you, but fraud on the court ; and not merely an allegation of such fraud, but evidence thereof.
I have perused the scan of the Complaint posted by the defendant. It may well be subject, in whole or in part, to a dispositive motion (demurrer, etc), but to suggest that the Complaint amounts to a fraud on the court is ludicrous on its face.
Thus at least as to paragraph 2, the defendant's motion is frivolous -- being wholly speculative, and resting on the outrageous assumption, advanced without evidence, that plaintiffs and/or their attorney have perpetrated a fraud on the court.
As such, ironically (or sadly), this misguided motion itself appears to be a sanctionable pleading under Section 8.01-271.1.
Again, this assumes the motion was even filed (which, at least as to paragraph 2, I hope was not the case).
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, going through Eesh's 53,043 posts is hard
> work
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/15
> 21830/1821482.html#msg-1821482
Thanks.
It's not entirely clear from the link that this motion was actual filed.
Assuming for the sake of argument that it was, one would have to see the motion in its entirety to pass proper judgment.
That said, absent a mole in Leiser's office feeding information to the defendant,* or the defendant having hacked into the Leiser computer system,* I can see no possible factual basis for the assertion in paragraph 2, which rests upon the hypothetical existence of emails that the defendant cannot possibly have had access to, and thus cannot know even exist, except as a matter of pure speculation.
*Both of these things would require a gross violation of law; thus, to the extent defendant may have such evidence, defendant would risk criminal prosecution by submitting it to the court.
An allegation or claim based on pure speculation, however, is not a good-faith basis for a pleading. As the court explained in Benitez, although the rule can be somewhat flexible depending on the circumstances, purely speculative, non-evidence-based pleading does not satisfy Section 8.01-271's due diligence standard.
Further, any discovery relating to proof of the paragraph 2 allegation - and there is no basis for discovery to proceed, given the entirely speculative nature of the claim - would necessarily rest on the extraordinary and rare requirement of a court ordering the piercing or abrogation of the attorney-client privilege. Which only occurs, so far as I know, where there is evidence of a fraud on the court -- not mere fraud, mind you, but fraud on the court ; and not merely an allegation of such fraud, but evidence thereof.
I have perused the scan of the Complaint posted by the defendant. It may well be subject, in whole or in part, to a dispositive motion (demurrer, etc), but to suggest that the Complaint amounts to a fraud on the court is ludicrous on its face.
Thus at least as to paragraph 2, the defendant's motion is frivolous -- being wholly speculative, and resting on the outrageous assumption, advanced without evidence, that plaintiffs and/or their attorney have perpetrated a fraud on the court.
As such, ironically (or sadly), this misguided motion itself appears to be a sanctionable pleading under Section 8.01-271.1.
Again, this assumes the motion was even filed (which, at least as to paragraph 2, I hope was not the case).
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Headache
()
Date: March 25, 2015 07:45PM
I understood every 17th word..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
@Legal guy
()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:25PM
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
jC9ED
()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:29PM
i'm sure all bundy would have won the case if he weren't red handed guilty !
he was that good !
he was that good !
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
6G6HJ
()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:32PM
before you feel sorry for her - check to see if she handn't just cut the guys dick off - or wasn't looking for a weapon
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
HGucw
()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:35PM
so your saying the only point in bleeding a turnip over an uninvestigated tort is
insuring all males have their balls removed to bow down for local kings ?
i can see no other reason to be bleeding a turnip
logic and reason always are fully implied by statements, the one and the other
.
insuring all males have their balls removed to bow down for local kings ?
i can see no other reason to be bleeding a turnip
logic and reason always are fully implied by statements, the one and the other
.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4X3Jt
()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:59PM
Here you go Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, going through Eesh's 53,043 posts is hard work
Was it worth it?
;)
From the other [ i.e., dis here: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1822669.html ] thread:
date checker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> eesh had miz arrested on feb 2 and said the
> offense date was feb 1
>
> eesh posted the lawsuit thread on jan 27......
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmm....
Or make a judge say:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, going through Eesh's 53,043 posts is hard work
Was it worth it?
;)
From the other [ i.e., dis here: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1822669.html ] thread:
date checker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> eesh had miz arrested on feb 2 and said the
> offense date was feb 1
>
> eesh posted the lawsuit thread on jan 27......
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmm....
Or make a judge say:
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Those physically stalked by Eesh
()
Date: March 25, 2015 09:06PM
Chuckhoffman
Caan/Thay
ding an sich
Mr. Misery
betterthanyoubitch
themuse
inkahootz
TheMeeper
lizzie
Friskydingo
Meade and Gretchen Skelton
Conie
Megan Toohey
Vexxxed
Caan/Thay
ding an sich
Mr. Misery
betterthanyoubitch
themuse
inkahootz
TheMeeper
lizzie
Friskydingo
Meade and Gretchen Skelton
Conie
Megan Toohey
Vexxxed
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Headache
()
Date: March 25, 2015 09:31PM
I don't get why they would lie about the lawsuit being in retaliation for Eesh having a case on Misery of the case on Misery came after the lawsuit.
But what I really don't get is why Eesh and his lawyer would try to lie and think that would hold up in court if dates would come into play right away!
Did Eesh lie to his lawyer or did his lawyer not do his homework and just believed Eesh?
None of this makes sense.
But what I really don't get is why Eesh and his lawyer would try to lie and think that would hold up in court if dates would come into play right away!
Did Eesh lie to his lawyer or did his lawyer not do his homework and just believed Eesh?
None of this makes sense.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
MjVvv
()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:42AM
6G6HJ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> before you feel sorry for her - check to see if
> she handn't just cut the guys dick off - or wasn't
> looking for a weapon
wtfff are you talking about?
-------------------------------------------------------
> before you feel sorry for her - check to see if
> she handn't just cut the guys dick off - or wasn't
> looking for a weapon
wtfff are you talking about?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Wgujn
()
Date: March 26, 2015 03:48PM
You'd think an awesome lawyer would know how polygraphs work.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Just as dumb as EESH
()
Date: March 26, 2015 03:53PM
Wgujn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You'd think an awesome lawyer would know how
> polygraphs work.
Or that Jan comes before Feb..
-------------------------------------------------------
> You'd think an awesome lawyer would know how
> polygraphs work.
Or that Jan comes before Feb..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Juxtaposition
()
Date: March 27, 2015 05:58PM
As far as I'm concerned Mr. Misery attacked the board. Common law against spammers isn't there ? Just throwing this out there, but 'stalked' is a loose term without some frame of reference, and quite frankly and accusation. Didn't Cary think approriately here? There seems to be a theme of Eesh stalking, so, the approrate thing to do is let this escalate? No, I don't think this is retarded. It isn't really about who vs who but what vs what. YOU BETRAYED THE LAWL
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
LetsRock
()
Date: March 27, 2015 06:35PM
FTuCn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> so basically low income ppl can't be sued
They should become indentured servants until they pay off their debt. That is the only fair thing to protect victims.
-------------------------------------------------------
> so basically low income ppl can't be sued
They should become indentured servants until they pay off their debt. That is the only fair thing to protect victims.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Curious / Skeptical
()
Date: March 28, 2015 02:45AM
> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney will also point out that emotional
> distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need
> for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia
> law when there has been no physical
> contact.
I came across the rule you allude to.
Virginia courts do recognize such a limitation in the case of claims for negligent infliction of emotional distress, as set forth, for example, in the case of Hughes v. Moore, 214 Va. 27, 197 S.E.2d 214 (1973):
This rule does not, however, apply to the "Miz" case because plaintiffs there make no claim for negligent infliction of emotional distress, but rather for intentional infliction of emotional distress (which makes sense since all that stuff you did was intentional, wasn't it, eesh?).
For they have sown the wind,
and they shall reap the whirlwind.
> --------------------------------------------------
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney will also point out that emotional
> distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need
> for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia
> law when there has been no physical
> contact.
I came across the rule you allude to.
Virginia courts do recognize such a limitation in the case of claims for negligent infliction of emotional distress, as set forth, for example, in the case of Hughes v. Moore, 214 Va. 27, 197 S.E.2d 214 (1973):
Where conduct is merely negligent and there is no physical impact, then there is no recovery for emotional distress alone.
Source for case summary: Brien Roche Law (this is an excellent website with much useful information about the nuances of Virginia tort law; Mr. Roche is a learned attorney who has mastered and summarized a very large body of caselaw in a concise, well-organized, and accessible form; this is an outstanding free resource).
This rule does not, however, apply to the "Miz" case because plaintiffs there make no claim for negligent infliction of emotional distress, but rather for intentional infliction of emotional distress (which makes sense since all that stuff you did was intentional, wasn't it, eesh?).
For they have sown the wind,
and they shall reap the whirlwind.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
greensuedebeatleboots
()
Date: March 29, 2015 12:18AM
i won a bunch of lawsuits against deadbeats whom owed me money.
never got a penny.
people with money hide it and claim bankruptcy.
real deadbeats dont have a pot to pee in.
never got a penny.
people with money hide it and claim bankruptcy.
real deadbeats dont have a pot to pee in.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
c4V4K
()
Date: March 31, 2015 02:29PM
great advice from a criminal running a courthouse
don't use law. theft is final.
death to corrupt judges
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
burned out basl bulb
()
Date: April 01, 2015 06:49PM
basl is not too bright !