3 questions:

1.Strayer is a tier 5 or have they gotten better rank since the 90's?

2. Was marymount always a tier 3 or is OP making his own ranking?

3. What is this ranking based on, are we talking about for certain majors or what criteria?

Are there any hot girls at Virginia Tech?

Independent Wrote:
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> Al Einstein Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ranking universities is like ranking
> automobiles.
> > Does a two-door, two-seat convertible rank above
> a
> > spacious sedan? Maybe to some, but not to
> others.
> >
> >
> > The U.S. News rankings are meaningless.
> > Small-minded idiots rely on them rather than
> using
> > braincells to learn about what each school has
> to
> > offer. There are literally hundreds, if not
> > thousands, of ways to rank schools. U.S. News
> > arbitrarily chooses one method.
> >
> > Anyone with a brain could easily pick a ranking
> > scheme that puts, for example, JMU way above
> > Harvard. So go ahead and worry about U.S. News
> > rankings if you're a total moron and insecure
> > about yourself. Otherwise, get off your lazy
> ass,
> > do some research to figure out which is best
> for
> > you and yours, and don't worry about how mental
> > midgets react.
>
>
> So if given the opportunity, you'd send your kid
> to ITT Tech over Harvard?
>
> Interesting...


You are a close minded person. What college did you attend?

Einstein was spot on. Anyone with a small brain can manipulate the college statistics to achieve a desired outcome. The easiest one is to give added weight to the alumni donation factor in the equation.

try Wrote:
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> Independent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Al Einstein Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ranking universities is like ranking
> > automobiles.
> > > Does a two-door, two-seat convertible rank
> above
> > a
> > > spacious sedan? Maybe to some, but not to
> > others.
> > >
> > >
> > > The U.S. News rankings are meaningless.
> > > Small-minded idiots rely on them rather than
> > using
> > > braincells to learn about what each school
> has
> > to
> > > offer. There are literally hundreds, if not
> > > thousands, of ways to rank schools. U.S.
> News
> > > arbitrarily chooses one method.
> > >
> > > Anyone with a brain could easily pick a
> ranking
> > > scheme that puts, for example, JMU way above
> > > Harvard. So go ahead and worry about U.S.
> News
> > > rankings if you're a total moron and insecure
> > > about yourself. Otherwise, get off your lazy
> > ass,
> > > do some research to figure out which is best
> > for
> > > you and yours, and don't worry about how
> mental
> > > midgets react.
> >
> >
> > So if given the opportunity, you'd send your
> kid
> > to ITT Tech over Harvard?
> >
> > Interesting...
>
>
> You are a close minded person. What college did
> you attend?
>
> Einstein was spot on. Anyone with a small brain
> can manipulate the college statistics to achieve a
> desired outcome. The easiest one is to give added
> weight to the alumni donation factor in the
> equation.

What college do I attend right now? Salisbury University. It's miles ahead of the institution I was at.

Vtech is tier 1 the rest of the v.a schools can suck my dick. I'm mainly looking at you uva. Virginia tech creates engineers while the other schools create unemployment.

Yeah, like there's no engineering school at UVa...or architecture, or law or med school.

Oh, oops, there is.

Repredent? V.a. to mean Va? LOL.

VT engineers are better than UVa engineers

Independent Wrote:
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> Al Einstein Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ranking universities is like ranking
> automobiles.
> > Does a two-door, two-seat convertible rank above
> a
> > spacious sedan? Maybe to some, but not to
> others.
> >
> >
> > The U.S. News rankings are meaningless.
> > Small-minded idiots rely on them rather than
> using
> > braincells to learn about what each school has
> to
> > offer. There are literally hundreds, if not
> > thousands, of ways to rank schools. U.S. News
> > arbitrarily chooses one method.
> >
> > Anyone with a brain could easily pick a ranking
> > scheme that puts, for example, JMU way above
> > Harvard. So go ahead and worry about U.S. News
> > rankings if you're a total moron and insecure
> > about yourself. Otherwise, get off your lazy
> ass,
> > do some research to figure out which is best
> for
> > you and yours, and don't worry about how mental
> > midgets react.
>
>
> So if given the opportunity, you'd send your kid
> to ITT Tech over Harvard?
>
> Interesting...

If my kid's life dream was to be a network engineer or PC support technician, and nothing else, I'd absolutely send him/her to ITT Tech. Harvard would be a total waste of time and money.

Al Einstein Wrote:
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> Independent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Al Einstein Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ranking universities is like ranking
> > automobiles.
> > > Does a two-door, two-seat convertible rank
> above
> > a
> > > spacious sedan? Maybe to some, but not to
> > others.
> > >
> > >
> > > The U.S. News rankings are meaningless.
> > > Small-minded idiots rely on them rather than
> > using
> > > braincells to learn about what each school
> has
> > to
> > > offer. There are literally hundreds, if not
> > > thousands, of ways to rank schools. U.S.
> News
> > > arbitrarily chooses one method.
> > >
> > > Anyone with a brain could easily pick a
> ranking
> > > scheme that puts, for example, JMU way above
> > > Harvard. So go ahead and worry about U.S.
> News
> > > rankings if you're a total moron and insecure
> > > about yourself. Otherwise, get off your lazy
> > ass,
> > > do some research to figure out which is best
> > for
> > > you and yours, and don't worry about how
> mental
> > > midgets react.
> >
> >
> > So if given the opportunity, you'd send your
> kid
> > to ITT Tech over Harvard?
> >
> > Interesting...
>
> If my kid's life dream was to be a network
> engineer or PC support technician, and nothing
> else, I'd absolutely send him/her to ITT Tech.
> Harvard would be a total waste of time and money.


So ITT Tech over MIT huh? What a delusional idiot.

Al Einstein Wrote:
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> Independent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Al Einstein Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ranking universities is like ranking
> > automobiles.
> > > Does a two-door, two-seat convertible rank
> above
> > a
> > > spacious sedan? Maybe to some, but not to
> > others.
> > >
> > >
> > > The U.S. News rankings are meaningless.
> > > Small-minded idiots rely on them rather than
> > using
> > > braincells to learn about what each school
> has
> > to
> > > offer. There are literally hundreds, if not
> > > thousands, of ways to rank schools. U.S.
> News
> > > arbitrarily chooses one method.
> > >
> > > Anyone with a brain could easily pick a
> ranking
> > > scheme that puts, for example, JMU way above
> > > Harvard. So go ahead and worry about U.S.
> News
> > > rankings if you're a total moron and insecure
> > > about yourself. Otherwise, get off your lazy
> > ass,
> > > do some research to figure out which is best
> > for
> > > you and yours, and don't worry about how
> mental
> > > midgets react.
> >
> >
> > So if given the opportunity, you'd send your
> kid
> > to ITT Tech over Harvard?
> >
> > Interesting...
>
> If my kid's life dream was to be a network
> engineer or PC support technician, and nothing
> else, I'd absolutely send him/her to ITT Tech.
> Harvard would be a total waste of time and money.

Cybersecurity, web site designer, radiology tech, medical lab tech, medical billing, etc.

Send them to NOVA.

Richmond, W&L, and VMI are over-rated institutions operating on Old Dominion legacies of the burned-down Confederacy.

bumper zzz Wrote:
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> So ITT Tech over MIT huh? What a delusional idiot.

Let's be honest. This point is absurd. There are a number of valid reasons why a typical kid might want a trade school over a traditional or non-traditional college. However the chances of a kid with the intelligence, knowledge and experience to get into MIT, Cal Tech or a few other top tech schools is going to fall into a category where a trade school is the better choice is extremely remote. The only situations that might apply would be cost or family obligations. Even then there are likely going to be more affordable schools with strong tech programs that would be available alternatives.

Original poster on target

bumper zzz Wrote:
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> Al Einstein Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Independent Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Al Einstein Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Ranking universities is like ranking
> > > automobiles.
> > > > Does a two-door, two-seat convertible rank
> > above
> > > a
> > > > spacious sedan? Maybe to some, but not to
> > > others.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The U.S. News rankings are meaningless.
> > > > Small-minded idiots rely on them rather
> than
> > > using
> > > > braincells to learn about what each school
> > has
> > > to
> > > > offer. There are literally hundreds, if
> not
> > > > thousands, of ways to rank schools. U.S.
> > News
> > > > arbitrarily chooses one method.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone with a brain could easily pick a
> > ranking
> > > > scheme that puts, for example, JMU way
> above
> > > > Harvard. So go ahead and worry about U.S.
> > News
> > > > rankings if you're a total moron and
> insecure
> > > > about yourself. Otherwise, get off your
> lazy
> > > ass,
> > > > do some research to figure out which is
> best
> > > for
> > > > you and yours, and don't worry about how
> > mental
> > > > midgets react.
> > >
> > >
> > > So if given the opportunity, you'd send your
> > kid
> > > to ITT Tech over Harvard?
> > >
> > > Interesting...
> >
> > If my kid's life dream was to be a network
> > engineer or PC support technician, and nothing
> > else, I'd absolutely send him/her to ITT Tech.
> > Harvard would be a total waste of time and
> money.
>
>
> So ITT Tech over MIT huh? What a delusional idiot.

MIT <> Harvard. Learn to read, moron! That said, if you went to MIT and spent $240k to become a PC support technician, then you're even more of a moron.

Seriously, does VT have hot girls?

Srsly Wrote:
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> Seriously, does VT have hot girls?


What do you think? It's a TECHNICAL school...

From GMU's professor of economics:

The Lack of Major Wars May Be Hurting Economic Growth

CNU is a joke

So is JMU. It's a tier 3 school trying hard, by way of marketing, to be something they will never be.

Go Pukez Wrote:
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> So is JMU. It's a tier 3 school trying hard, by
> way of marketing, to be something they will never
> be.


I love the haters banging on JMU. That usually tells you their boss or someone who is telling them what to do went there and they cannot stand it.

OR

They wanted to go so bad and could not get in so now they can hate on it because they ended up at one of the other schools being mentioned.

I hear CNU is a good place to become a Neo-Con. Is that true?

moooo Wrote:
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> Yeah, like there's no engineering school at
> UVa...or architecture, or law or med school.
>
> Oh, oops, there is.
>
> Repredent? V.a. to mean Va? LOL.


VT is better for engineering than Uva. Architecture is an investment in unemployment. Law and Med school are not comparable in a discussion about undergrad. try focusing. probably a uva grad who got in on daddy's connections.

They should eliminate economics as a field. There are only three types in the field: Democrats, Republicans, and salespeople for Wall Street firms who pretend to be economists. It's rare to find who hasn't been bought out.

alt-delete econ Wrote:
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> They should eliminate economics as a field. There
> are only three types in the field: Democrats,
> Republicans, and salespeople for Wall Street firms
> who pretend to be economists. It's rare to find
> who hasn't been bought out.


Another poor person bitching at the rich. Maybe if you went to college, you'd be making money.

HRMgr Wrote:
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> Go Pukez Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So is JMU. It's a tier 3 school trying hard, by
> > way of marketing, to be something they will
> never
> > be.
>
>
> I love the haters banging on JMU. That usually
> tells you their boss or someone who is telling
> them what to do went there and they cannot stand
> it.
>
> OR
>
> They wanted to go so bad and could not get in so
> now they can hate on it because they ended up at
> one of the other schools being mentioned.

UVA.

All have pluses and minuses

Depends on your goals

UVA is no better than Tech JMU or Y of R

General William T. Sherman Wrote:
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> Richmond, W&L, and VMI are over-rated institutions
> operating on Old Dominion legacies of the
> burned-down Confederacy.

This. All of these colleges are overrated. VMI has a freshman GPA of 1.8. Look at the scholars there.

Truth.Teller Wrote:
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> General William T. Sherman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Richmond, W&L, and VMI are over-rated
> institutions
> > operating on Old Dominion legacies of the
> > burned-down Confederacy.
>
> This. All of these colleges are overrated. VMI has
> a freshman GPA of 1.8. Look at the scholars there.


Says the guy who dropped 100K at ECPI

ranking colleges is like ranking fast food

McD=GMU
Wendys=UVA
Chipotle=VT
Subway=ODU
BK=WM
Arbys=JMU
Sonic=Radford
Jimmy John=CNU


it all depends on what you are looking for

rank Wrote:
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> ranking colleges is like ranking fast food
>
> McD=GMU
> Wendys=UVA
> Chipotle=VT
> Subway=ODU
> BK=WM
> Arbys=JMU
> Sonic=Radford
> Jimmy John=CNU
>
>
> it all depends on what you are looking for

Arby's is nasty as fuck

I make $75,000/year and I got my degree at ECPI

This is the most important topic created in a long time. Please sticky it.

James Madison is NOT a Tier 2 school. It's a Tier 3 school that is massively overrated by alumni and current students. I would never send my child to that dump.

Radford sucks.

Radford is the worst school in the state. Even worse than NOVA and the University of Northern Virgina at Mumbai

Cracker Barrel Wrote:
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> James Madison is NOT a Tier 2 school. It's a Tier
> 3 school that is massively overrated by alumni and
> current students. I would never send my child to
> that dump.

well maybe if you weren't such a fucking disappointment to your kid, you could afford to send them to an out-of-state school.

Ra's Al Ghul Wrote:
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> ..... Even
> worse than NOVA and the University of Northern
> Virgina at Mumbai

I thought this was some kind of ethnic slur. But there really is -- or at least used to be -- such a place. Sounds like a terrible fraud, and unknowing students were the victims. Of course, the U.S. shouldn't have been issuing visas for people to attend an unaccredited scam school either.
http://www.firstpost.com/world/indian-students-left-in-the-lurch-again-after-bogus-us-campus-shuts-down-988313.html
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/ICE-Raids-University-of-Northern-Virginia-Offices-126355528.html

US News & World Report
Up-and-Coming Schools - National Universities

George Mason #10

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/up-and-coming

US News & World Report
National Universities Rankings

University of Virginia #23
William & Mary #33
Virginia Tech #71
George Mason #138
Virginia Commonwealth #156

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities



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US News & World Report
Regional Universities Rankings

James Madison #6
Mary Washington #13
Christopher Newport #17
Hampton #18
Longwood #30
Radford #34
Marymount #37
Shenandoah #47
Mary Baldwin #39
Liberty #80
Virginia State #92

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/regional-universities-south



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US News & World Report
National Liberal Arts Colleges Rankings

Washington & Lee #14
Richmond #30
VMI #64
Hampden-Sydney #105
Hollins #112
Randolph Macon #124
Randolph #133
Roanoke #133
Eastern Mennonite #172
Emory and Henry #172
Bridgewater #178

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges

Any parent that sends their child to JMU sucks. JMU is overrated and these rankings show it.

Mason is a NATIONALLY RANKED institution. JMU is regionally ranked.

GMU has been "up and coming" for over a decade. At some point you have to arrive, and Mason has failed to do so. Depending on your area of study, you might want to go to Tech, to Mason, to JMU, to VCU, to Richmond, to W&L, etc. However if you are looking to go to a school based solely on general reputation, there are only two in Virginia that matter: the University of Virginia and William & Mary.

Thoughts about Christopher Newport?

Is it a good school and what not?

UVA IS A TIER 3 SCHOOL AFTER THE RAPE ALLEGATIONS AND CRAPPY LEADERSHIP

Baxter Stockman Wrote:
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> UVA IS A TIER 3 SCHOOL AFTER THE RAPE ALLEGATIONS
> AND CRAPPY LEADERSHIP

It has always been a Tier 3 state school. Everybody just knows about it know. A good cheap safety if you can't get into a top 25, though. Unless of course you are female.

Wahoowee Wrote:
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> Baxter Stockman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > UVA IS A TIER 3 SCHOOL AFTER THE RAPE
> ALLEGATIONS
> > AND CRAPPY LEADERSHIP
>
> It has always been a Tier 3 state school.
> Everybody just knows about it know. A good cheap
> safety if you can't get into a top 25, though.
> Unless of course you are female.

Fuck off. You could only get into Radford cuz your IQ is 100.

Va Tech is a technical college so if you're going to the school for anything other than that, you're going to be SOL.

Read US News list. It is fairly objective. Outside of engineering Tech sucks. Was called VPI. Can someone post what SAT scores it takes to get into these? That's a pretty objective measure. By that measure you have UVa and W&M at the top, but JMU might be ahead of Tech there, and PLEASE don't give us the SAT you need to study engineering at tech, only a small percent of students what's the overall average?

The average combined SAT score for the math and critical reading subsection of the 2012 freshman class at VT is 1250. The mid-50 percent SAT range is 1160-1340. Although 25 percent of VT students scored below 1160 on the SAT, a score this low makes admission considerably more difficult.

Not sure what JMUs avg combined SAT is. Tech's athletic programs likely drag it down. Lots of thuggery there. JMUs likely less as they are 1 AA.

UVAs athletes have some of the highest SAT scores so they haven't dumbed it down.

UVa and W&M clearly in a class by themselves, and I went to JMU and admit that.

Unless you study engineering or something technical, Tech is below Mason. It's a technical school, everything else there sucks.

what is your purpose for going to college? WM grads are not marketable after 4 years. uva does not turn engineers as good as tech. uva and wm do not offer vet or forestry programs.

Liar..big ass liar Wrote:
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> Wahoowee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Baxter Stockman Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > UVA IS A TIER 3 SCHOOL AFTER THE RAPE
> > ALLEGATIONS
> > > AND CRAPPY LEADERSHIP
> >
> > It has always been a Tier 3 state school.
> > Everybody just knows about it know. A good
> cheap
> > safety if you can't get into a top 25, though.
> > Unless of course you are female.
>
> Fuck off. You could only get into Radford cuz your
> IQ is 100.

Spoken like a true privileged UVA frat douchebag who thinks UVA is all that. "It must be...because it is so hard to get into." Remember, it's a state school inhabited by rich, entitled losers afflicted with serious cases of selection bias.

Winner Wrote:
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> UVa and W&M clearly in a class by themselves, and
> I went to JMU and admit that.
>
> Unless you study engineering or something
> technical, Tech is below Mason. It's a technical
> school, everything else there sucks.


stop with the class system. they aren't in a higher class. wm is full of relationship challenged smart kids. is that a special class? uva is full of cheaters. jmu is full of blonde, flat ironed, black eyeliner rimmed girls. va is an odd state with the people imposed class/tier system. people from other states think it is weird.

india Wrote:
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> Winner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > UVa and W&M clearly in a class by themselves,
> and
> > I went to JMU and admit that.
> >
> > Unless you study engineering or something
> > technical, Tech is below Mason. It's a
> technical
> > school, everything else there sucks.
>
>
> stop with the class system. they aren't in a
> higher class. wm is full of relationship
> challenged smart kids. is that a special class?
> uva is full of cheaters. jmu is full of blonde,
> flat ironed, black eyeliner rimmed girls. va is
> an odd state with the people imposed class/tier
> system. people from other states think it is
> weird.

People in VA think its weird too!

Madison Wrote:
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> india Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Winner Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > UVa and W&M clearly in a class by themselves,
> > and
> > > I went to JMU and admit that.
> > >
> > > Unless you study engineering or something
> > > technical, Tech is below Mason. It's a
> > technical
> > > school, everything else there sucks.
> >
> >
> > stop with the class system. they aren't in a
> > higher class. wm is full of relationship
> > challenged smart kids. is that a special class?
>
> > uva is full of cheaters. jmu is full of
> blonde,
> > flat ironed, black eyeliner rimmed girls. va
> is
> > an odd state with the people imposed class/tier
> > system. people from other states think it is
> > weird.
>
> People in VA think its weird too!


No...no we don't

A good University isn't George Mason

Shalaka Wrote:
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> A good University isn't George Mason


step out of the 80's

madonnna Wrote:
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> Shalaka Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A good University isn't George Mason
>
>
> step out of the 80's


Why don't you suck my big Japanese dick

Shalaka Wrote:
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> madonnna Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shalaka Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A good University isn't George Mason
> >
> >
> > step out of the 80's
>
>
> Why don't you suck my big Japanese dick


pix or it didn't happen

hu Wrote:
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> Shalaka Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > madonnna Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Shalaka Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > A good University isn't George Mason
> > >
> > >
> > > step out of the 80's
> >
> >
> > Why don't you suck my big Japanese dick
>
>
> pix or it didn't happen

You are a little bitch.

RBC ! RBC !


Richard Bland college rules baby!!!

WOOOOO! GO RB!
Attachments:

Dick Bland Wrote:
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> RBC ! RBC !
>
>
> Richard Bland college rules baby!!!
>
> WOOOOO! GO RB!


retard school.

Both UVA and W&M are public ivies and the ONLY ivies in Virginia. There are only 8 widely recognized public ivies and VA has 25% of that them. If you can get into one of these two schools, you'll be hanging with future 1%'ers.

When I was in the USMC, had a boot Lt that was a UVA grad. Real piece of work, ended up getting spanked for being dumb as shit.


Ok...one off. No need to tar an entire school for one example.


Fast forward 10 years...I'm a junior at GMU, working while attending. Had a UVA and VT grad(s) working under me. Dumbest pair I'd ever run into.

ku9m3 Wrote:
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> Both UVA and W&M are public ivies and the ONLY
> ivies in Virginia. There are only 8 widely
> recognized public ivies and VA has 25% of that
> them. If you can get into one of these two
> schools, you'll be hanging with future 1%'ers.


The Ivy League schools are Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton, and Yale. There are eight of them and none in Virginia.

It's ridiculous to assign "tiers". The end result is only as good as what you put in to it. They are different schools with different characteristics. For example a lower level class at Virginia Tech might have 100+ students whereas the same class at Radford might have 20 students.

Where you go to law school might make a difference depending on what you want to do, but undergrad not so much.

Spoken like a loyal GMU grad!

Dick Bland Wrote:
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> RBC ! RBC !
>
>
> Richard Bland college rules baby!!!
>
> WOOOOO! GO RB!


Hey, I went to Richard Bland too! Never made millions but had a good career and a good retirement.

ku9m3 Wrote:
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> Both UVA and W&M are public ivies and the ONLY
> ivies in Virginia. There are only 8 widely
> recognized public ivies and VA has 25% of that
> them.

The entire University of California system was included as one entity. If you were being accurate California has several. Also anyone who thinks that W&M, UVa or UNC are superior to or even on par with non-Ivy Stanford, University of Chicago, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech is suspect.

My son got into Tech and Jmu and can't decide where to go. He likes Tech better but he's majoring in liberal arts- probably something english or history related. Which school is better for these majors? Opinions?

xWVb3

Farrow Wrote:
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> Here is a list of Virginia's universities broken
> up into tiers:
>
> Tier 1
> -UVA
> -W&M
>
> Tier 2
> -VT
> -Richmond
> -W&L
> -JMU
>
> Tier 3
> -Mary Washington
> -GMU
> -Hampton
> -VCU
> -VMI
> -ODU
> -Mary Baldwin
> -R&M
> -Hampden-Sydney
> -Marymount
>
> Tier 4
> -Shenandoah
> -Bridgewater
> -Ferrum
> -Longwood
> -Norfolk State
> -Liberty
> -NOVA
> -Hollins
> -Sweet Briar
> -Roanoke College
>
> Tier 5
> -CNU
> -Virginia State
> -Virginia Union
> -UVA Wise
> -Radford
>
> NOTE: For-Profit institions (UNV,ECPI, UoP left
> off)

Wrong. The only ones that matter are UVA (top public school) and W&L (top liberal arts college) -- these top-25 caliber schools compete with Vanderbilt, UMich, Cornell and other serious academic institutions while the rest are a way to avoid entering adulthood for four years. The other schools could be shutdown and it wouldn't make much of a difference. Any degree from UMW, VCU, or JMU is probably worth as much as it cost to print the diploma, and don't get me started on Radford and CNU.

kendras Wrote:
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> My son got into Tech and Jmu and can't decide
> where to go. He likes Tech better but he's
> majoring in liberal arts- probably something
> english or history related. Which school is better
> for these majors? Opinions?

Liberal Arts? Why waste your money? If he wants to be a homeless leech on society, he can just vote for Bernie or Hillary tomorrow!

LPcCt

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> ku9m3 Wrote:
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> > Both UVA and W&M are public ivies and the ONLY
> > ivies in Virginia. There are only 8 widely
> > recognized public ivies and VA has 25% of that
> > them.
>
> The entire University of California system was
> included as one entity. If you were being
> accurate California has several. Also anyone who
> thinks that W&M, UVa or UNC are superior to or
> even on par with non-Ivy Stanford, University of
> Chicago, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech is suspect.

Bill, the fact that you know the names of certain schools doesn't mean you know anything about them. As a graduate of both UVA and an Ivy League institution, and as not infrequent lecturer at places like Duke and Columbia, I can assure you that UVA, W&M, Cal Berkeley, Michigan students are "on par" with Stanford, MIT, Duke, Chicago, even Columbia, Dartmouth, Williams, etc. etc.

The term "Ivy League" has been around for at least 80 years. It refers today to the same eight schools that it did originally -- Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale. One can say that the Ivy League isn't what it once was, or that other schools now compete on an equal academic footing as the Ivies, but they AREN'T Ivies. Just the eight are.

It's just the eight Wrote:
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> The term "Ivy League" has been around for at least
> 80 years. It refers today to the same eight
> schools that it did originally -- Brown, Columbia,
> Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and
> Yale. One can say that the Ivy League isn't what
> it once was, or that other schools now compete on
> an equal academic footing as the Ivies, but they
> AREN'T Ivies. Just the eight are.


The term "ivy" was introduced into this discussion in reference to "public ivies" - a term that has been around for at least 30 years. It is regularly used in pedagogical circles.

This list of Virginia universities is very accurate

If you plan on having a worthless career, you want a business degree from UVA so you can be pre-pre-med but drop out, do some coke, get some money from mom and dad and eventually a job from your uncle at some local shit business.

If you are an engineer, you go to tech. If you are a research scientist in materials sciences, aerospace, or want to build cool shit as a general life goal, you go to tech, where people actually do things.

Agree that other majors aren't as difficult to get into as the engineering department at tech, but who gives a fuck, its an engineering and sciences college dumb asses. Enjoy middle management, I'd rather invent shit that your bosses boss will pay me 40 million dollars to purchase rights to.

This is a good thread

Bandersnatch Wrote:
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> This is a good thread


Are you the fruminous Bandersnatch?

No.