I think there are at least 10 to 1 nicotine junkies to anti-smokers whining on here. They'd wrap themselves up in the god..motherhood and apple pie to justify a discusting addiction.

I dont like the smell of smoke, so I simply avoid bars and restaurants that are heavy in smoke. I dont complain to the government and have them outlaw something just because it annoys me.


^^THANK FUCKING YOU TRAVIS FOR SAYING THAT.
I work in a bar/restuarant that is filled with smoke, and that's part of the atmosphere!!!!!
Honestly.
And when people come in and complain about it...I always wanna say "Then dude, just leave." Honestly, if people don't liek smoky restaurants, then go to ihop or soemthing where it's banned.
kthx.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I think there are at least 10 to 1 nicotine
> junkies to anti-smokers whining on here. They'd
> wrap themselves up in the god..motherhood and
> apple pie to justify a discusting addiction.

It looks like the public has spoken, then.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think there are at least 10 to 1 nicotine
> > junkies to anti-smokers whining on here.
> They'd
> > wrap themselves up in the god..motherhood and
> > apple pie to justify a discusting addiction.
>
> It looks like the public has spoken, then.

You are getting a little desperate arent you? First you say I have spoken so that is that. And now you think that the issue has been put to a vote to the general public.

Smoking and drinking is bad for you, period. However, since it is legal, let those who chose to do so, do as they please.

s



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2010 02:42PM by inkahootz.

inkahootz Wrote:
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> It's a done deal.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic
> le/2009/02/09/AR2009020902444.html?hpid=topnews


Thanks for that article though I still wouldn't get too excited.
"Amendments would permit smoking in rooms separated by doors, even if there is no separate ventilation system. They carved out exceptions for smoking in outdoor patio areas; at restaurants during private functions when the function takes up the entire restaurant; and at clubs or bars at times when under-age patrons are not admitted."

So does that mean a 21+ only bar is OK?


"American Lung Association had their own complaints -- that the proposal does not clearly specify what constitutes a separate room and that it lacks strong enforcement. Violating the ban would bring only a $25 fine for businesses."

Only a $25 dollar fine and permitted in separate "rooms".

I guess the bar I frequent the most will stay smokey being it's 21+ entry.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2009 12:10AM by Mofo.

The bill is a complete joke. Allowing smoking in bars when "at clubs or bars at times when under-age patrons are not admitted." That's what? 99% of bars? And a $25 fine for a bar is like saying were not enforcing it.

dono Wrote:
> Every employee has the right to go to work in a
> place, free from to exposure to harmful levels of
> known carcinogens and poisons. Second hand smoke

This legislation won't help employees: restaurants and bars
will still have "enclosed, ventilated" smoking sections where
the employees will be forced to work in.

This bill is an anti-smoking bill designed to protect the health
of the restaurant customers -- the public -- not the employees.

I think there are at least 10 to 1 nicotine junkies to anti-smokers whining on here. They'd wrap themselves up in the god..motherhood and apple pie to justify a discusting addiction.

It may indeed be a discusting habit. Some would say even disgusting. But the issue isn't whether the habit is disgusting or not. The issue is the limit of government control over people's lives and how they choose to lead them.

I think chew tobacco is a lot more discusting than smoking. Why don't we make them stand outside, too?

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Norman Conquest Wrote:
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> I think there are at least 10 to 1 nicotine
> junkies to anti-smokers whining on here. They'd
> wrap themselves up in the god..motherhood and
> apple pie to justify a discusting addiction.
>
> It may indeed be a discusting habit. Some would
> say even disgusting. But the issue isn't whether
> the habit is disgusting or not. The issue is the
> limit of government control over people's lives
> and how they choose to lead them.


One of the most important duties of government to "guarantee" life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I can think of nothing more important then banning public smoking to do just that. Addicts should not drive public policy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2009 11:03PM by Vince(1).

"Addicts should not drive public policy." Then who should? Fascists?

Currently, you have a choice of private establishments that have developed their own policy, based on whats best for them. Why not just patronize the PRIVATE businesses that cater to your preference? Why do you feel it necessary to legislate your agenda onto others that don't share it? Elitist Liberal Fascism is a dangerous game and is in direct contradiction to Life, Liberty & The Pursuit of Happiness. If your in need of a more rigid nanny state that MANDATES choice for you, then you should spend more time up north outside of the Old Dominion. Ohh you'll be right at home with all enlightened ones like Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi. Queers and immigrants could be your bosses. Affirmative action appointees will be your supreme masters where they will routinely consecrate the bonds of obedience by commanding you to "assume the position".

finally some progress!

As expected, the bill was rejected yesterday. This type of bill will never pass in a state that is one of the major producers of cigarettes.

70chip Wrote:
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> "Addicts should not drive public policy." Then
> who should? Fascists?
>
> Currently, you have a choice of private
> establishments that have developed their own
> policy, based on whats best for them. Why not
> just patronize the PRIVATE businesses that cater
> to your preference? Why do you feel it necessary
> to legislate your agenda onto others that don't
> share it? Elitist Liberal Fascism is a dangerous
> game and is in direct contradiction to Life,
> Liberty & The Pursuit of Happiness. If your in
> need of a more rigid nanny state that MANDATES
> choice for you, then you should spend more time up
> north outside of the Old Dominion. Ohh you'll be
> right at home with all enlightened ones like
> Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi. Queers and
> immigrants could be your bosses. Affirmative
> action appointees will be your supreme masters
> where they will routinely consecrate the bonds of
> obedience by commanding you to "assume the
> position".


brother..you addicts really believe this crap dont you? The entire constitution was written to protect your filthy habit that is killing you and innocents around you. Oh and dont forget that other protected constituonal right...the right to speed through yellow/red lights without a camera taking a picture of it. Such nonsense.



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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I think chew tobacco is a lot more discusting than
> smoking. Why don't we make them stand outside,
> too?


Because chewing tobacco can't give others cancer like second hand smoke, you idiot.

MrMcFaggot Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think chew tobacco is a lot more discusting
> than
> > smoking. Why don't we make them stand outside,
> > too?
>
>
> Because chewing tobacco can't give others cancer
> like second hand smoke, you idiot.

You're not exposed to second hand smoke if you go to a non-smoking establishment. Since you're too much of a pussy for dive bars, I recommend McDonald's; no smoking, and lots of opportunity for you to look at children.

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Dancing Cowboy Wrote:
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> As expected, the bill was rejected yesterday.
> This type of bill will never pass in a state that
> is one of the major producers of cigarettes.


Sorry, Mr. Dancing Cowboy (wtf?), but it's a done deal as of today. I don't know where you get your information from, son! (Beastie Boys)

inkahootz Wrote:

>
> Sorry, Mr. Dancing Cowboy (wtf?), but it's a done
> deal as of today. I don't know where you get your
> information from, son! (Beastie Boys)


well you dont have to be a cunt about it son.

Predator Obama Wrote:
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> inkahootz Wrote:
>
> >
> > Sorry, Mr. Dancing Cowboy (wtf?), but it's a
> done
> > deal as of today. I don't know where you get
> your
> > information from, son! (Beastie Boys)
>
>
> well you dont have to be a cunt about it son.


It's just a line from the 'Check Your Head' album. Maybe you are too old to recognize it, gramps! :oP~ Why don't you go dance with your cowboy buddy and get all 'Brokeback'!

Never thought I'd see the day!

inkahootz Wrote:

>
> It's just a line from the 'Check Your Head' album.
> Maybe you are too old to recognize it, gramps!
> :oP~ Why don't you go dance with your cowboy buddy
> and get all 'Brokeback'!


go cry into your beastie Bong over old copies of Grand Royal magazine yourself. Im so fresh and so clean with ladiez on the scene when you were spooning inmates.

Predator Obama Wrote:
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> inkahootz Wrote:
>
> >
> > It's just a line from the 'Check Your Head'
> album.
> > Maybe you are too old to recognize it, gramps!
> > :oP~ Why don't you go dance with your cowboy
> buddy
> > and get all 'Brokeback'!
>
>
> go cry into your beastie Bong over old copies of
> Grand Royal magazine yourself. Im so fresh and so
> clean with ladiez on the scene when you were
> spooning inmates.


'So fresh and so clean with the ladiez on the scene'? That just shows how much of a douchebag you are; Leave the rhyming to the professionals. You must be from Westfield and down with 70treez! BTW, I don't do weed, and I wonder what would happen to your bitch ass if you were locked up.

inkahootz Wrote:
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> Predator Obama Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > inkahootz Wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's just a line from the 'Check Your Head'
> > album.
> > > Maybe you are too old to recognize it,
> gramps!
> > > :oP~ Why don't you go dance with your cowboy
> > buddy
> > > and get all 'Brokeback'!
> >
> >
> > go cry into your beastie Bong over old copies
> of
> > Grand Royal magazine yourself. Im so fresh and
> so
> > clean with ladiez on the scene when you were
> > spooning inmates.
>
>
> 'So fresh and so clean with the ladiez on the
> scene'? That just shows how much of a douchebag
> you are; Leave the rhyming to the professionals.
> You must be from Westfield and down with 70treez!
> BTW, I don't do weed, and I wonder what would
> happen to your bitch ass if you were locked up.


Listen 'Hootz! what the Hallibertan are you talking about? You all up in my crawlspace? Well Hey FUCK YOU! when i ryhme I rhyme the Ryhme well! When you was in prison you took 3 the hard way! it was triple trouble Y'all! You better check it out bitch! You come down to Westfeilds We Got The The Brouhaha! Shazam!

Take your bitch ass back to class. Isn't it time for you brainiacs to come up with some other brilliant idea to usurp the 'dipshot'?

i think this is great. i'm a social smoker, don't get me wrong. every wednesday night, me and my buddies from mason go to Carlos O'Kellys down the street and have some beers, eat some mexican food, and i usually have a couple cigarettes. but i realize not everyone smokes, and if i want to, i can go outside on the patio and do it. no biggie.