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teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: Citizen ()
Date: October 02, 2008 01:07PM

An e-mail distributed by a Virginia teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom by wearing blue in support of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama and simultaneously suggested that the union's voter registration efforts include those "you teach."

The Virginia Education Association (VEA) e-mail drew strong criticism Wednesday from elected Republican officials and some residents after the state Republican Party obtained a copy. The author of the e-mail conceded Wednesday that the e-mail should have been worded differently.

The VEA is an affiliate of the National Education Association, the country's largest teachers union.

"Schools should be perfectly neutral," Virginia resident Julie Aurora said Wednesday. "They should teach students how to think, not what to think.

Delegate Jeffrey M. Frederick, Prince William Republican and chairman of the state party, said: "It is an outrageous breach of public trust and an abuse of taxpayer resources that teachers chose to use school grounds as a political base."

Mr. Frederick said the words "you teach some of them" suggest that the e-mail was meant to encourage teachers to recruit their students, not just ordinary residents, into the Obama camp.

"That is patently wrong and it should be illegal if it not already is," he said.

VEA President Kitty Boitnott said the charges are baseless and that the e-mail does not suggest teachers rally support for Mr. Obama, Illinois Democrat, from students.

"It's a ridiculous statement," said Mrs. Boitnott, a librarian at Chamberlayne Elementary School in Henrico County.

It was "certainly not the author's intent" to encourage teachers to recruit students for Mr. Obama, she also said. The reference to students stems from the union's long-standing, nonpartisan youth-registration efforts, she said.

She told the Richmond Times-Dispatch that participation in Tuesday's Obama Blue Day was "miserable" and that she herself had forgotten and worn red — the color representing Republicans.

Dorris Boitnott, a VEA member and author of the e-mail, said that in hindsight she should not have paired the idea of supporting Mr. Obama with that of registering young voters. Mrs. Boitnott, who said she is not related to Kitty Boitnott, also said she had no intention of encouraging teachers to recruit students into a political campaign.

She pointed out that the e-mail discourages teachers from wearing T-shirts or campaign buttons in the classroom that specifically name Mr. Obama.

"Teachers know they are not allowed to partake in partisan activities during school hours, and so if this e-mail somehow looks like it does encourage teachers to recruit students, then I'm very sorry," she said.

The NEA voted in June to endorse Mr. Obama. The recommendation is based solely on a candidate's position on education-related issues, Kitty Boitnott said.

"This e-mail was in the spirit of that recommendation, to give resources and advice to those VEA members who are already energized about the Obama campaign," she said. "We do not advise that any teacher actively recruit a student to any particular political campaign during school hours."

Mr. Frederick disagreed.

"The Virginia Education Association has systematically brought election politics into the classroom, and this is not the first time they have done so," he said. "The political views of teachers have no place in the classroom or on school grounds."

J. Tucker Martin, spokesman for Virginia Attorney General Robert F. McDonnell, called the e-mail "highly inappropriate."

"One-sided, partisan political advocacy should stay out of the classroom," he said.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: Citizen ()
Date: October 02, 2008 01:10PM

Learn about the Virginia Education Association’s recommended candidates for office—and what you can do to make a difference in this historic election.




Executive Office
Kitty Boitnott
VEA President
kboitnott@veanea.org

Robert Whitehead
Executive Director
rwhitehead@veanea.org




http://www.veanea.org/

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: Lil' Johnnie ()
Date: October 02, 2008 01:36PM

Citizen Wrote:
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> Learn about the Virginia Education Association’s
> recommended candidates for office—and what you can
> do to make a difference in this historic
> election.
>
>
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> Executive Office
> Kitty Boitnott
> VEA President
> kboitnott@veanea.org
>
> Robert Whitehead
> Executive Director
> rwhitehead@veanea.org
>
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>
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> http://www.veanea.org/


Buzz off Teech! We got your number. Its all about pushing the
gay agenda in the classroom.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/ig/Barack-Obama-Pictures/Brokeback-Obama.htm

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: tubby ()
Date: October 02, 2008 06:58PM

The Republicans' only objection is that the VEA did not endorse them. There would be silence if they had.

BTW, how many students are old enough to vote, .001%?

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: Bev ()
Date: October 02, 2008 07:10PM

tubby Wrote:
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> The Republicans' only objection is that the VEA
> did not endorse them. There would be silence if
> they had.
>
> BTW, how many students are old enough to vote,
> .001%?

Most every high school senior is old enough to vote. If coached, they
will sometimes take the advice of their "role models" and encourage their
parents and siblings to vote likewise. Politicizing the classroom is not
a good thing, especially when it becomes one-sided.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: October 02, 2008 07:44PM

VEA is an organization that will always push for their own raises and the candidates who'll give them raises. There are few good public school teachers, most are lazy jobbers who are near impossible to fire.

The kids do all the work and teachers get all the money..

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: tubby ()
Date: October 02, 2008 08:00PM

Bev Wrote:
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> tubby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Republicans' only objection is that the VEA
> > did not endorse them. There would be silence
> if
> > they had.
> >
> > BTW, how many students are old enough to vote,
> > .001%?
>
> Most every high school senior is old enough to
> vote. If coached, they
> will sometimes take the advice of their "role
> models" and encourage their
> parents and siblings to vote likewise.
> Politicizing the classroom is not
> a good thing, especially when it becomes
> one-sided.


Get out...only high school seniors that just missed the cut-off to start school...or were held back for some reason, would be old enough to vote in this election. A tiny minority.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: jeff ()
Date: October 02, 2008 10:34PM

This is the organization that is molding my kids minds for 13 years. This scares me.

Lets keep politics out of school.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 02, 2008 11:04PM

I agree, lets get rid of No Child Left Behind

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: VoiceOfReason ()
Date: October 03, 2008 12:32AM

Allbeit...this is a historical election...puching politics in the classroom is wrong. The kids do bring it (even in elementary school), by repeating what they have heard their parents or others say.

Teachers should not show the way they are leaning in the classroom, as everybody's situation is different, as would the way their parents' lean. Children, although, need to know the election process...should know they could vote for whomever they feel represents what they believe.

Even though some students in high school are old enough to vote, they are still better off voting the way their parents' think will suit them best, as they are still supported by their parents.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: October 03, 2008 10:28AM

I wonder how many of the complainers about this will go to church Sunday and listen to their pastor endorse McCain.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: J. Wright ()
Date: October 03, 2008 10:35AM

formerhick76 Wrote:
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> I wonder how many of the complainers about this
> will go to church Sunday and listen to their
> pastor endorse McCain.

Not if they go to Trinity United Church of Christ. While the church endorsement is troubling because these organizations are tax exempt, it is not as troubling as a taxpayer funded employee acting as an advocate for a political candidate while on the job. If you have no problem with this, then you should have no problem with the politicization at the Department of Justice. In my mind they are equally offensive to the taxpayer. All this being said, I doubt any of this crossed your mind and were simply looking to take a cheap shot at faith in general. Belief bashing is unfortunately the last accepted form of bigotry in the United States.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: TAD ()
Date: October 03, 2008 12:04PM

Really the whole idea is stupid. This type of crap should not be in the classroom. Let them where blue to the grocery store or wherever else these teachers go afterhours. Who gives a blank what candidate the teachers support. Just focus on the job, teaching the kids.

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: October 03, 2008 01:00PM

VoiceOfReason Wrote:
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> Allbeit...this is a historical election

So are all of them. How long ago was the last "non-historic" election?

Anyway, we need the NEA to encourage this to counter idiots like this guy who thinks he's clever with acronyms.

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081003/NEWS01/810030329/1010

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 03, 2008 01:22PM

pgens Wrote:
>>> Anyway, we need the NEA to encourage this to counter idiots like this guy who thinks he's clever with acronyms.


10 day suspension?? That's pretty fucking ridiculous. You'd be fired on the spot in most companies.

This guy's lucky he didn't have his tongue pierced, then shit would've really hit the fan!



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Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: jeff ()
Date: October 03, 2008 10:21PM

in case anyone is interested. i wrote the Hunter Mill District Rep, Stuart Gibson with my concerns, he promptly answered the next day with the answer i wanted to hear. Here was his response:

Mr. jeff,

Thank you for writing to ask about this. I understand that the National Education Association and its state affiliate in Virginia, the Virginia Education Association (VEA) did, in fact, send an e-mail to its members, urging them to wear blue this past Tuesday, to show their support for Senator Obama. This matter was brought to the attention of Dr. Dale, Superintendent of Schools, on Monday. I learned about it after the event had occurred, as I was in synagogue on Monday night and Tuesday, celebrating Rosh Hashana.

Dr. Dale has shared with me the following information about what he communicated to the groups that represent employees in Fairfax County Public Schools, including the Fairfax Education Association. I have copied his comments below. I share Dr. Dale's views, and support our School Board policy that prohibits our employees from using the classroom to express their personal political views to their students.

>I met with teachers from all of our schools yesterday [Monday] and outlined our
>expectations for appropriate behavior. We will also be sending to ALL of our
>employees the guidelines for non-political behavior. VEA has no authority to
>countermand school board policy, nor does the local affiliate. WE have not,
>nor will we, condone ‘blue day’, ‘red day’ or any other political color day.

I hope this answers your question.

Sincerely,

Stu Gibson
School Board Member
Hunter Mill District

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: October 05, 2008 04:29PM

J. Wright Wrote:
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> formerhick76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wonder how many of the complainers about this
> > will go to church Sunday and listen to their
> > pastor endorse McCain.
>
> Not if they go to Trinity United Church of Christ.
> While the church endorsement is troubling because
> these organizations are tax exempt, it is not as
> troubling as a taxpayer funded employee acting as
> an advocate for a political candidate while on the
> job. If you have no problem with this, then you
> should have no problem with the politicization at
> the Department of Justice. In my mind they are
> equally offensive to the taxpayer. All this being
> said, I doubt any of this crossed your mind and
> were simply looking to take a cheap shot at faith
> in general. Belief bashing is unfortunately the
> last accepted form of bigotry in the United
> States.

Help, help, I'm being repressed!

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: Spacy ()
Date: October 06, 2008 05:31AM

tubby Wrote:
> > > BTW, how many students are old enough to vote,

> > Most every high school senior is old enough

> only high school seniors that just missed the cut-off
> to start school...or were held back for some reason,
> would be old enough to vote in this election.
> A tiny minority.

I don't know what the calculation is, but when I went
to high school in Annandale, most seniors were eliable
to vote. I don't recall the teachers pushing particular
candidates or parties, back a few decades ago, but we
did have an exercise where we used the actual voting
machines to practice casting a ballot. (These were
the flip-metal-switches-then-pull-lever machines.)

Re: teachers union encouraged members to bring politics into the classroom
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: October 06, 2008 04:57PM

I remember one year my high school borrowed the voting machines from the county to hold student council elections. The teachers complained about the reduction in instruction time and so it wasn't repeated.

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