This incident follows the same scenario of the old adage "a gun laying on a table cannot hurt anyone. It take human intervention for the gun to hurt someone"

Well, those electric lines are an inanimate object like a gun. Nothing tragic would have occurred if (A) kids had not been on the roof and (B) kid didnt fall into the wires. The wires have been there for decades and no one was ever injured until (A) kids got on roof and (B) kid fell onto wires.

Moar!
Attachments:

The first Darwin Award of the summer, within hours of the final bell!

Way to go, Ben!

students Wrote:
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> A few summers ago
> three or four teenagers broke in to one of the
> trailers. 1 girl and the rest boys. I remember
> hearing rumors the teens were caught with there
> pants down.

That is very interesting. What were their names and what were they doing? More details please!

For those of you who feel so "exempt" from tragedy - how horrible to say "dumb kids" with no "common sense". God forbid something tragic and accidental ever happens to one of your loved ones!

An accident? NO

Going up on a roof at night with multiple power lines around is no accident. This was expected. Next we will hear there was weed and alcohol involved.

sar Wrote:
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> For those of you who feel so "exempt" from tragedy
> - how horrible to say "dumb kids" with no "common
> sense". God forbid something tragic and
> accidental ever happens to one of your loved ones!

Well, maybe something tragic and accidental will happen to my kids...maybe it won't.

Interestingly, I showed them this story tonight and my teenagers' reaction was, "Why were they up on top of the school in the FIRST place? Who does that?"

I have never ONCE had a conversation with either of them about it probably being a good idea to not climb on the roof of a school or any building really...

Police Identify Victim in Electrocution Incident
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2013/061913updatetoelectrocutionvictimidentified.htm

Fairfax County Police Department
Public Information Office
4100 Chain Bridge Road, Fairfax, Va. 22030
703-246-2253. TTY 703-204-2264. Fax 703-246-4253
FCPD-PIO@fairfaxcounty.gov
www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police
News Release:13/169/0305/(5)drg
June 19, 2013



Update
Victim Identified

Reston Police District – Detectives have identified the victim in this incident as 14-year-old Bennett James Rill of Oak Hill, Virginia.

The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner will make final determination as to cause and manner of death.



Teen Electrocuted on School Grounds (original release date 061913)



Reston Police District – Shortly before 9 p.m. on Tuesday, June 18, police and fire were called to Fox Mill Elementary School at 2611 Viking Drive in Herndon.

First responders arrived and located four juvenile males; three 14-year-olds and one 15-year-old. One of the 14-year-olds had inadvertently come into contact with a live electrical wire and was electrocuted. He was pronounced dead on scene. The remaining boys were transported to Inova Fairfax Hospital with non life-threatening injuries.
There does not appear to have been an attempt to enter the school.

Homicide detectives and crime scene technicians responded to the scene. The investigation is continuing.


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To request this information in an alternate format, call the Public Information Office at 703.246.2253. TTY 703-204-2264

"The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner will make final determination as to cause and manner of death"

Me thinks the CME can pretty much be left out of this one.... Open and closed case.

Thetruth Wrote:
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> Oh contrare Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually it is the parent's fault. It happened
> > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all
> minors,
> > so its not the school's fault to watch these
> kids
> > after they leave. This was the parent's failure
> to
> > properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids
> > shouldn't have been up there, but guess what
> > parents? You are responsible for your kids
> while
> > they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess
> what?
> > I do my job, because I know what kids do. I've
> > very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> > prayers are with them and their families, as
> well
> > as their friends & community. Bad things happen
> to
> > good people, but alot of that can get prevented
> if
> > parents realize their job is their children.
>
>
> Are you a parent of teenagers? You may think you
> know where they are at all times but you don't.
> This was a tragic accident -- can't pin it on the
> parents. Teens do stupid things. End of story. No
> amount of parenting can stop peer pressure and the
> natural desire to test limits.

It's called "Rules" dumbass. Who lets their teenage kids (minors) out of the house at 9pm? The answer? Bad parents.

wxcbs Wrote:
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> The level of idiocy on this topic is appalling.
> The video of the guy on the train goes so far
> beyond good taste, it's sad. They made a mistake
> and paid for it. No use pontificating about "I
> learned never to..." or "I had parents who..."
> His parents seem like fine people who stood up to
> the cameras and answered questions...would we be
> that strong. The boy who died was a fine young man
> by all accounts. It's sad...that the boy died,
> but it's sadder that people post such terrible
> things about their neighbors or people they don't
> even know. The web certainly has given people a
> voice but sometimes the wrong one.

Well it is very sad.

Oh contrare Wrote:
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> Thetruth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oh contrare Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Actually it is the parent's fault. It
> happened
> > > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all
> > minors,
> > > so its not the school's fault to watch these
> > kids
> > > after they leave. This was the parent's
> failure
> > to
> > > properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids
> > > shouldn't have been up there, but guess what
> > > parents? You are responsible for your kids
> > while
> > > they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess
> > what?
> > > I do my job, because I know what kids do.
> I've
> > > very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> > > prayers are with them and their families, as
> > well
> > > as their friends & community. Bad things
> happen
> > to
> > > good people, but alot of that can get
> prevented
> > if
> > > parents realize their job is their children.
> >
> >
> > Are you a parent of teenagers? You may think
> you
> > know where they are at all times but you don't.
> > This was a tragic accident -- can't pin it on
> the
> > parents. Teens do stupid things. End of story.
> No
> > amount of parenting can stop peer pressure and
> the
> > natural desire to test limits.
>
> It's called "Rules" dumbass. Who lets their
> teenage kids (minors) out of the house at 9pm? The
> answer? Bad parents.

From the time I was 12 until the time I was 18 and left for college, I snuck out of my house frequently and my parents were never aware. We did stupid shit, too much of it illegal but none of it was even CLOSE to being life-threatening. Parents need to know where their kids are at ALL TIMES. As a parent now myself, I am always looking at things through their eyes. There are no guarantees but, I've taken extraordinary measures to my home to insure that no one goes out of the house without me or my wife or which ever responsible adult we've left in charge being aware of it.

Father: Son was electrocuted while helping friend
http://www.wtop.com/149/3362770/Father-Son-was-electrocuted-while-helping-friend

WASHINGTON - The father of the boy who was electrocuted at a Herndon elementary school Tuesday night says he was told his son was trying to help a friend when he came into contact with an electrical wire.

Derick Rill says his 14-year-old son, Bennett James Rill, was killed Tuesday on the roof of Fox Mill Elementary School in the 2600 block of Viking Drive.

Rill says his son had finished his last day of middle school Tuesday.

Fairfax County police spokesman Officer Don Gotthardt tells WTOP that four boys -- one 15-year-old and three 14-year-olds -- were on the grounds of Fox Mill Elementary School shortly before 9 p.m. when at least one of the boys came into contact with an electrical wire and was shocked to death.

The boys reportedly came into contact with the wires when they climbed a roof at the school.

Rill, of Oak Hill, Va., says police told him the boys were climbing a fence and used the wire as leverage to get onto the roof. He says Bennett went to help a teen who had fallen when he got tangled in the wire.

Rill was pronounced dead at the scene and the three others were transported to Fairfax Inova Hospital with injuries that were not life- threatening.

Gotthardt tells WTOP that homicide detectives were on the scene working to determine the exact chronology of events.

"Concern at this point is the well-being of the parents and the well-being of the other three children that were transported," says Gotthardt.

While detectives were interviewing the boys to determine why they were on the grounds, Gotthardt says there was no indication they were trying to break into the school.

"There's no evidence that anybody attempted to enter the school -- just a tragic accident," Gotthardt says.

Rachel Carson Principal Reaches Out to Families About Death of Student
Bennett Rill had just graduated from the eighth grade at Rachel Carson Middle School when he died on the roof of Fox Mill Elementary.
http://reston.patch.com/groups/schools/p/rachel-carson-principal-reaches-out-to-families-about-death-of-student_d3aa695c

The principal of Rachel Carson Middle School in unincorporated Herndon sent out the following message to RCMS families Wednesday afternoon regarding the death of one of its students, Bennett Rill, in a tragic accident Tuesday night.

Bennett was hanging out on the grounds at Fox Mill Elementary when he somehow came into contact with live electrical wires on the roof of the school, and died.


"Dear Parents and Guardians,

I am greatly saddened to report that a student of ours – Bennett Rill – died last night in the tragic accident that occurred at Fox Mill Elementary.

Bennett had just completed 8th grade at Carson Middle School. He was an excellent student and well-liked by all who knew him, and he will be greatly missed. Our thoughts are with the Rill family during this extremely difficult time. Three other boys were injured in the incident and two of them are also Carson students.

As I mentioned in a previous communication, we have initiated support from the FCPS Crisis Response team to provide students, parents, and staff with information that would help them to cope with their feelings of sadness and grief. Special counseling services are being made available to anyone who may be impacted, and will continue to be available throughout the week.

A sudden death like this can have an effect on students. For that reason, we hope that you will listen to your son or daughter as well as discuss with them their feelings and reactions to this tragedy. We are taking every step we can to be responsive to the needs of our students and their families. Keep us informed if there are ways we can support you.

On behalf of all members of the school staff and students, we extend our deepest condolences to the Rill family and their friends. My thanks to all who have expressed their genuine concern for the family and for your continued support of Carson Middle School.

Sincerely,
Augie Frattali, Principal

Then, why bring it up?

I don't know why there can't be a tragedy without someone pointing fingers at the victim's parents. Someone above said "Who lets their kids out at 9"? Well, it's summer time, and many of the public pools don't even close until 9, so the answer is probably a great MANY people let their kids out until nine. We aren't talking about a platoon of kindergartners here. I don't know for certain, but it sounds like a group of boys met up for dinner at Glory Days and then were going to walk home. Along the way, they did something unwise and one poor boy got killed for it, but that is just what happens sometimes with adolescents- it doesn't make the parents bad parents or the kids bad kids- just a poor decision that endd up with the worst possible consequence. I know that I , and many other posters, did stupid shit all the time and just got lucky in not getting killed. Other kids play it safe all the time and wind up dead. there is no accounting for random chance, and parents need to start letting go of their kids at some point: it doesn't seem ridiculous to me for parents to allow 14 year olds some time outside on the first night of summer.
Someone really ought to study this site as a window into human nature. It is amazing what people will say from behind the safety of a keyboard. Making jokes about a dead boy or saying horrible, unfounded things about his parents are actions that would certainly only occur , for most people, when their anonymity is secure. I wonder how many people who post here loudly denounce the actions of groups like the Westboro Baptist Church when in public, only to come here and say equally awful, hurtful things when their public persona won't bear the brunt of the resulting admonitions. At least the despicable people from Westboro have the balls to attach their names and faces to their hate- so many people like to keep those skeletons buried in the closet so they can live a decent life while nurturing evil and hatred. Reading the posts here, especially the ones pertaining to deaths, makes it easy to see how the Zimbardo experiment results came to pass. If you come here to make fun of a dead boy, to intentionally cause his family pain, or both, your personality is one that makes the regimes of people like Hitler and Pol Pot possible- you are sick and evil, and you are just waiting for the proper venue to surface so you can express it. You probably write it off as "just a joke" but it's a callous indifference to the suffering of others that could easily be fanned into a conflagration of hate if you could find enough people with similar feelings to make you feel less like a coward and more like the norm.

Wow Sane, you nailed it. Anonymity gives people who are not secure in their own skin more power to say hateful things. I tell my child that it's so easy to be mean but it take guts to be nice and say the right things no matter what others think. How about we focus on getting rid of the drug dealer who lives off of Magna Carta. See him all the time near Armada getting in and out of cars. Either he has a lot of friends who give him rides or he has trouble walking. THAT'S what we need to focus on. He's being watched by the authorities, I know for a fact. Young man, take it elsewhere....

Sane Wrote:
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> It is amazing what people will say

Do not assume anything about the age of posters on this site - school is out so any post could be from any age group - during school any post after, say, 2-ish could be from any age group.

That is to say...this is an obscure site with rather local age-unspecified posters with many posters posting using multiple IDs (thus "people" may actually be "person"...). Take it as a representation of ANYTHING with a grain of salt.

Who assumed anything about the age of the posters? The age of the poster is not relevant although I am quite certain that there are a fair number of adults now that I think about it.
Even if all of the horrific posts are made by juveniles, it doesn't excuse the actions although it does make it a bit more understandable in relation to frontal lobe development etc. Still, I can picture some of these folks with their fingers hovering over the "Post Message" button resisting because they know what they are about to do is shitty...and then doing it anyway. I gaurantee you that the public self that these people present would be vastly different from the keyboard commando who mocks the death of a young boy and seeks to torture his parents. The scary thing is, I think the latent evil it is WAY more prevalent than most of us realize

Sane Wrote:
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> Who assumed anything about the age of the posters?
> The age of the poster is not relevant although I
> am quite certain that there are a fair number of
> adults now that I think about it.
> Even if all of the horrific posts are made by
> juveniles, it doesn't excuse the actions although
> it does make it a bit more understandable in
> relation to frontal lobe development etc. Still, I
> can picture some of these folks with their fingers
> hovering over the "Post Message" button resisting
> because they know what they are about to do is
> shitty...and then doing it anyway. I gaurantee you
> that the public self that these people present
> would be vastly different from the keyboard
> commando who mocks the death of a young boy and
> seeks to torture his parents. The scary thing is,
> I think the latent evil it is WAY more prevalent
> than most of us realize

Translation? Sane is "Holier than Thou"

I certainly have vices. However if not making fun of a dead boy, and not saying incredibly hurtful things about his grieving parents AND calling you a malevolent, egomaniacal, demonically evil dick if you do those things earns me "Holier than Thou" status in your eyes, then I am proud to claim it.

Sane Wrote:
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> I certainly have vices. However if not making fun
> of a dead boy, and not saying incredibly hurtful
> things about his grieving parents AND calling you
> a malevolent, egomaniacal, demonically evil dick
> if you do those things earns me "Holier than Thou"
> status in your eyes, then I am proud to claim it.

Fuck. You.

...and welcome to Fairfax Underground. We speak ill of the dead here. It doesn't matter if we'd do it in public or not. Now, you could keep judging people for it and we could stop doing it but...ain't gonna' change nothin'.

"Their job is to die...and our job is to flame their corpses and we don't apologize for it."

Now my best advice to you is to avoid dying a public, dramatic death here in NOVA because it will be discussed here and your kin won't like what they read...they never do.

Thank you for articulating what I've wanted to say but refrained from doing so....this was a tragic accident and everyone needs to stop pointing fingers and making awful sarcastic comments. It is disturbing to see how people will hide behind their computer and write whatever they want....God forbid tragedy ever strikes them....then they will know what it feels like to be the poor Rill family. As someone who's nephew had been at the restaurant the boys were all at earlier in the evening to celebrate the last day of school, I am closer to this tragedy than I ever would have wanted to be. Fortunately, my nephew made the wise decision not to go with those boys to the elementary school...as he's done many times before when some of his friends have gone. This was not a one time occurance. Kids apparently hang out on the roof all the time and neighbors have complained about it...yet, nothing was done. Should they have been there? Of course not. But who, at the age of 14 or 15, hasn't done something ill-advised? I can certainly say that I have....but I was lucky. This is a tragedy and one that will forever scar the young boys involved and the Rill family. Let's not forget that a young boy lost his life. RIP Bennett.

Sane Wrote:
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> Who assumed anything about the age of the posters?
> The age of the poster is not relevant

Do you REALLY care what a 9th grader posts using multiple IDs?

In fact, on an obscure message board like this do you REALLY care what ANYONE posts?

To Groovy Ghoul: Wow, that was heavy. Let me just back away because you have all the answers. Sad, but true. Speak ill of the dead and flame corpses...yeah, that's a good idea. Go with that and you have a bright and happy future. Wow, what went wrong there????

Groovy-Ghoul Wrote:
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> Sane Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I certainly have vices. However if not making
> fun
> > of a dead boy, and not saying incredibly
> hurtful
> > things about his grieving parents AND calling
> you
> > a malevolent, egomaniacal, demonically evil
> dick
> > if you do those things earns me "Holier than
> Thou"
> > status in your eyes, then I am proud to claim
> it.
>
> Fuck. You.
>
> ...and welcome to Fairfax Underground. We speak
> ill of the dead here. It doesn't matter if we'd do
> it in public or not. Now, you could keep judging
> people for it and we could stop doing it
> but...ain't gonna' change nothin'.
>
> "Their job is to die...and our job is to flame
> their corpses and we don't apologize for it."
>
> Now my best advice to you is to avoid dying a
> public, dramatic death here in NOVA because it
> will be discussed here and your kin won't like
> what they read...they never do.


Fuck you back. You do prove my point though, so thanks. I bet in public nobody would ever guess that you would say something like that. Wouldn't surprise me if people actually perceived you to be religious.

Ben apparently was apparenlty electrocuted trying to help his friend. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2344924/Bennett-Rill-14-electrocuted-tries-help-friend-shocked-live-wire-school-fence.html

Again, it denegrates to name calling, great. Isn't that what we are trying to AVOID!!!!????

Book smart and life stupid. What a shame.

Stupidity culls the gene pool.

And you have all the answers, right?

For an affluent, educated area, there are an unusually high number of teen deaths in Fairfax County/northern VA/DC region.

I dont know if there is a connection but there is an unbelievable heroin and meth problem among teens in Fairfax and other NOVA Counties. If you comb the court records you will see case after case of heroin posession and distributing. I know a few years back there was a big bust of heroin users/sellers in Chantilly.

Stabitha, check the Fox Mill neighborhood, it's there. Sadly. No joy in the home so kids look to artificial means to get it. Very sad...

I posted above. In the 70's, my buddies and I used to climb roofs and get into mischief all of the time. We were not bad kids, but just boys. Most of us are now very successful, and so on. Quit blaming the parents.

I find it ironic that there is a clarion call here for overseeing teenagers by parents, hour by hour, minute by minute. That isn't realistic. Moreover, in our video game playing/kids must be eternally entertained with scheduled activities era, over-protecting the kids is counterproductive to their safety. They don't get out in the real world and explore and ascertain dangers (including dealing with older kids and avoiding bullies). Sure, I climbed roofs and engaged in lots of mischief, but the set-up at the school these kids climbed (from the photos above) would have scared the heck out of me and my friends. Even at 10 years of age, we saw enough live wires after storms, tornadoes (it was the Midwest) etc., to know just how dangerous power lines can be - especially the ones seen in the photos - numerous high power lines concentrated closely together.

Again, the easy emotional answer is to over-protect the kids. But if you do so, they won't learn in a real sense how to avoid hazards. I fear for the environments we raise boys in today.

Well said. There are no boundaries for kids. Parents are afraid to discipline because they want to be the kids friend and not the parent.

unfortunate Wrote:
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> I posted above. In the 70's, my buddies and I
> used to climb roofs and get into mischief all of
> the time. We were not bad kids, but just boys.
> Most of us are now very successful, and so on.
> Quit blaming the parents.
>
> I find it ironic that there is a clarion call here
> for overseeing teenagers by parents, hour by hour,
> minute by minute. That isn't realistic.
> Moreover, in our video game playing/kids must be
> eternally entertained with scheduled activities
> era, over-protecting the kids is counterproductive
> to their safety. They don't get out in the real
> world and explore and ascertain dangers (including
> dealing with older kids and avoiding bullies).
> Sure, I climbed roofs and engaged in lots of
> mischief, but the set-up at the school these kids
> climbed (from the photos above) would have scared
> the heck out of me and my friends. Even at 10
> years of age, we saw enough live wires after
> storms, tornadoes (it was the Midwest) etc., to
> know just how dangerous power lines can be -
> especially the ones seen in the photos - numerous
> high power lines concentrated closely together.
>
> Again, the easy emotional answer is to
> over-protect the kids. But if you do so, they
> won't learn in a real sense how to avoid hazards.
> I fear for the environments we raise boys in
> today.

I don't know about being an overprotective parent but I will say this...

9 o'clock at night? Kids that age have no business being out of the house at that time of night without adult supervision. Kids have no business being on school grounds at that time of night. Kids have no business climbing on a building whether there's electrical cables nearby or not.

This is on Mom and Dad and if they'd done their job their kid would be alive.

wxcbs Wrote:
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> The level of idiocy on this topic is appalling.
> The video of the guy on the train goes so far
> beyond good taste, it's sad. They made a mistake
> and paid for it. No use pontificating about "I
> learned never to..." or "I had parents who..."
> His parents seem like fine people who stood up to
> the cameras and answered questions...would we be
> that strong. The boy who died was a fine young man
> by all accounts. It's sad...that the boy died,
> but it's sadder that people post such terrible
> things about their neighbors or people they don't
> even know. The web certainly has given people a
> voice but sometimes the wrong one.

The article in the Post today portrays him as a very fine young man. Such a loss. I don't think he was the instigator of this stunt. I have 13 year old with a inbred inclination toward self-preservation. Not much of a risk taker and that is fine with me. My sincerest condolensces to this family.

Sane Wrote:
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> Groovy-Ghoul Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sane Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I certainly have vices. However if not making
> > fun
> > > of a dead boy, and not saying incredibly
> > hurtful
> > > things about his grieving parents AND calling
> > you
> > > a malevolent, egomaniacal, demonically evil
> > dick
> > > if you do those things earns me "Holier than
> > Thou"
> > > status in your eyes, then I am proud to claim
> > it.
> >
> > Fuck. You.
> >
> > ...and welcome to Fairfax Underground. We speak
> > ill of the dead here. It doesn't matter if we'd
> do
> > it in public or not. Now, you could keep
> judging
> > people for it and we could stop doing it
> > but...ain't gonna' change nothin'.
> >
> > "Their job is to die...and our job is to flame
> > their corpses and we don't apologize for it."
> >
> > Now my best advice to you is to avoid dying a
> > public, dramatic death here in NOVA because it
> > will be discussed here and your kin won't like
> > what they read...they never do.
>
>
> Fuck you back.

Fuck you back? What are you...12? Groovy-Ghoul just pwned you and all you got is..."fuck you back"?

You can't say that dimmy3. You have no idea what happened leading up to that. Maybe his parents thought he was at a friends house and went out to eat and then was coming home. Does that sound bad? As a parent, I'd say OK, be safe and we'll see you later. From what I gather, they are good parents. Bad things happen sometimes.

703...owned you? Grow up.

It's bated, not baited breath. Learn to spell, a-hole!

Again, why the name calling???

I we can't discuss this without name calling how do we learn to get along??? F- bombs and a-holes, it's crazy. We don't even know each other. How do you act with people you know? C'mon!!!!

D Wrote:
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> I we can't discuss this without name calling how
> do we learn to get along??? F- bombs and a-holes,
> it's crazy. We don't even know each other. How
> do you act with people you know? C'mon!!!!


Fuck you, asshole!

D Wrote:
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> 703...owned you? Grow up.

Nope...the word is pwn. Past tense pwned. But don't take my word for it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwned

jeez, u sure are a heartless a$$hole.

In Huck Finn, Mark Twain wrote:



"Do I know you? I know you clear through was born and raised in the South, and I've lived in the North; so I know the average all around. The average man's a coward. In the North he lets anybody walk over him that wants to, and goes home and prays for a humble spirit to bear it. In the South one man all by himself, has stopped a stage full of men in the daytime, and robbed the lot. Your newspapers call you a brave people so much that you think you are braver than any other people -- whereas you're just AS brave, and no braver. Why don't your juries hang murderers? Because they're afraid the man's friends will shoot them in the back, in the dark -- and it's just what they WOULD do.

"So they always acquit; and then a MAN goes in the night, with a hundred masked cowards at his back and lynches the rascal. Your mistake is, that you didn't bring a man with you; that's one mistake, and the other is that you didn't come in the dark and fetch your masks. You brought PART of a man -- Buck Harkness, there -- and if you hadn't had him to start you, you'd a taken it out in blowing.

"You didn't want to come. The average man don't like trouble and danger. YOU don't like trouble and danger. But if only HALF a man -- like Buck Harkness, there -- shouts 'Lynch him! lynch him!' you're afraid to back down -- afraid you'll be found out to be what you are -- COWARDS -- and so you raise a yell, and hang yourselves on to that half-a-man's coat-tail, and come raging up here, swearing what big things you're going to do. The pitifulest thing out is a mob; that's what an army is -- a mob; they don't fight with courage that's born in them, but with courage that's borrowed from their mass, and from their officers. But a mob without any MAN at the head of it is BENEATH pitifulness. Now the thing for YOU to do is to droop your tails and go home and crawl in a hole. "

And that's very true. You who have the courage to make fun of a dead boy and taunt his parents from behind a keyboard prove his point exactly. You would never , EVER say soething like that when it might get you punched in the face or castigated, but you act like tools safe in the knowledge that nobody will know who you are. I know this will flame you and carry on th thread, which is what you want, because from behind the keyboard you can act tough. If any of you met the boy's parents you would probably say , "I am so sorry for your loss" like the conniving, spineless scum of the earth that you are. But, at the end of the day, you know who you are. There is probably some modicum of conscience, some submerged piece of the superego that can struggle to the surface and, no matter for how briefly, make you feel badly about taking an anonymous jab at somebody in mourning while simultaneously letting you know that that is the only jab that you ever WILL take because you are a hypocritical, spineless, useless waste of dna

SANE, you had me going until the NAME CALLING! Why?

Because I felt the situation warranted it. Wasn't really mad, just speaking matter of factly

D Wrote:
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> You can't say that dimmy3. You have no idea what
> happened leading up to that. Maybe his parents
> thought he was at a friends house and went out to
> eat and then was coming home. Does that sound
> bad? As a parent, I'd say OK, be safe and we'll
> see you later. From what I gather, they are good
> parents. Bad things happen sometimes.

From the description in the Post article this morning, one of the other boys went up first and was shocked and fell and the Bennett went to help him. I don't know what happened, that's true, but everyone should be aware who their kids are hanging around with -- it makes all the difference in the world.

D Wrote:
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> And you have all the answers, right?

Shove a baseball up your ass sideways. When you remove the big dick from your mouth.

Matter of factly? You always call people hypocritical, spineless, useless wastes of dna? You felt the situation warranted it? Then, I'm sorry, but I'd hate to see you mad. Your words just keep feeding the angry bear. It has to stop. We have to learn to handle ourselves better in ANY situation.

D Wrote:
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> Matter of factly? You always call people
> hypocritical, spineless, useless wastes of dna?
> You felt the situation warranted it? Then, I'm
> sorry, but I'd hate to see you mad. Your words
> just keep feeding the angry bear. It has to stop.
> We have to learn to handle ourselves better in
> ANY situation.

Awwwwww...what's wrong? You mad, bro? Did someone just smoke your little red wagon on the Interwebz? On noes! What WILL you fucking do about it, mang?

I know!

Nothing...except cry from your vagina...Christ.

Aside from Bennett Rill and Jeffrey Simon, does anyone know who else was involved? I know there were two others injured. And please people, try to find a little kindness in your hearts... a child has died. Please stop the frenzy of hate and rage.

Insane, work on the bullying thing. It's not a good look. You're proving my point.

You guys will all cry and whine because I'm raising the point that we should try to get along. I don't get that. Did someone just smoke your little red wagon on the Interwebz? On noes! What does that mean, anyway? That's bullying, plain and simple. I don't care but I care that our kids learn that. So easy to be mean, isn't it?

D Wrote:
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> You guys will all cry and whine because I'm
> raising the point that we should try to get along.
> I don't get that. Did someone just smoke your
> little red wagon on the Interwebz? On noes! What
> does that mean, anyway? That's bullying, plain
> and simple. I don't care but I care that our kids
> learn that. So easy to be mean, isn't it?

Why don't you go outside and practice falling down for awhile? I'll be out in a minute...And pack my fucking lunch too you fucking mope.

kim Wrote:
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> For an affluent, educated area, there are an
> unusually high number of teen deaths in Fairfax
> County/northern VA/DC region.


It's due to the fact that the kids there have parents that are never around, no roots to anything or activites other than gaming), and haven't learned how to cope with anything. The pressure is high for them to perform by their parents and peers, but when they fail or are perceived as failing, the situation gets bad quick.

Insane, you're digging the hole deeper.

hhhshdhdhd, that's true also.

Schoolhouse Rock- Electricity, Electricity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CLuPNThw0RE

D Wrote:
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> Insane, you're digging the hole deeper.

Are you gonna' skin that smoke wagon? Or just stand there and bleed?

There is a neighborhood watch. Check out the community website at www.fmeha.org or attend an Association meeting.

kim Wrote:
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> For an affluent, educated area, there are an
> unusually high number of teen deaths in Fairfax
> County/northern VA/DC region.


Really? Are you getting this from City Data, because the last time I checked, Fairfax County with its roughly 1.2 million residents, has a much lower rate of teen deaths than other similar sized jurisdictions.

Oh contrare Wrote:
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> The Hard Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is not the school's fault, not the
> parent's
> > fault, nor is it the kid's fault (well...). Bad
> > shit happens and as humans, we just gotta deal.
>
>
> Actually it is the parent's fault. It happened
> around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all minors,
> so its not the school's fault to watch these kids
> after they leave. This was the parent's failure to
> properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids
> shouldn't have been up there, but guess what
> parents? You are responsible for your kids while
> they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess what?
> I do my job, because I know what kids do. I've
> very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> prayers are with them and their families, as well
> as their friends & community. Bad things happen to
> good people, but alot of that can get prevented if
> parents realize their job is their children.

Did you really post this.... Do you follow your kids 24/7 ? You just set your self up for bad karma..... How old are your kids? What a judgemental ass you sound like

Shit happens fags. Should have, would have, did not. Get over it and stop over analizing it. A kid was having fun and got electrocuted, end of story.

everyone here is perfect wink wi Wrote:
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> Shit happens fags. Should have, would have, did
> not. Get over it and stop over analizing it. A kid
> was having fun and got electrocuted, end of story.

Yep

I may be beating a dead horse, but I feel as if I should try and clear things up.

Climbing on that roof is not a "common" activity nor is it a place where kids hangout. I suppose the reason kids go on there is sort of a dare; a "bucket list" activity. I myself have been on that very roof. Me and a number of friends got up, looked around, and got off. Nothing more than that. So I don't believe county officials and police should start worrying about the roofs of other schools becoming teen hangouts.

I feel as if I should also add that I do not believe the kids were playing with wires or electrical equipment for fun. The side of the school with the shed is the only part I can think of that even has electrical wires in plain sight. I highly doubt Bennett and his friends were climbing and playing on the wires. What is more likely is he grabbed it for support, maybe even on accident. The wires are actually avoidable entirely if you climb up on top of the shed, so I really believe Bennett accidentally grabbed it.

Lastly, I want to stress that teenagers are not using the roof as a means of a place to hangout. I believe that Bennett and his friends were only going up for the thrill of being on a roof, and that's it.I will admit that climbing on a roof of any place is probably risky behavior, but cut the kids a little slack.

Some of you may disagree with me and argue that I'm just another one of the stupid, degenerate teenagers that Fairfax County. I'm not trying to justify trespassing on school grounds or even making poor decisions for a cheap thrill. I just want to set things straight.

TL;DR The roof is not a place that teens actually hangout, Bennett and his friends were most likely NOT playing with the electrical wires.

Source: I am a 19 y/o FCPS alumni who has been on the roof of Fox Mill Elementary School.

Anonymous876 Wrote:
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> ...The wires are actually avoidable
> entirely if you climb up on top of the shed, so I
> really believe Bennett accidentally grabbed it...

Hmmm...avoidable wires yet, from the vague reports, apparently TWO of the kids weren't "able to avoid" them.

Teenyboppers being teenyboppers, I wonder if the original touch-the-wires kid was attempting to actually DO something to the wires.

Something is not right here - everyone is talking "temporary building" yet the (only) photo of the "climbing shed" shows the shed next to the main school building, not a temporary:



Overhead view of the temporaries and "the shed":

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Fox+Mill+Elementary+School,+Viking+Drive,+Herndon,+VA&hl=en&ll=38.928115,-77.381499&spn=0.000969,0.001254&sll=38.844884,-77.440788&sspn=0.124205,0.160503&oq=fox+mi&t=h&hq=Fox+Mill+Elementary+School,+Viking+Drive,+Herndon,+VA&radius=15000&z=20

BTW, at least one of the reports says the roof (whichever roof it was) was wet thus that would have provided an excellent grounding surface for anyone touching electrical wires.

in a minefield and don't touch live mortars.
The kids made a dumbass mistake. One paid with his life and the others have to live with the consequences.
High School kids at a elementary school?
On the last day of school I would be as far away from a school has possible.
Sad day for the privileged.

Anonymous876 Wrote:
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> I may be beating a dead horse, but I feel as if I
> should try and clear things up.
>
> Climbing on that roof is not a "common" activity
> nor is it a place where kids hangout. I suppose
> the reason kids go on there is sort of a dare; a
> "bucket list" activity. I myself have been on that
> very roof. Me and a number of friends got up,
> looked around, and got off. Nothing more than
> that. So I don't believe county officials and
> police should start worrying about the roofs of
> other schools becoming teen hangouts.
>
> I feel as if I should also add that I do not
> believe the kids were playing with wires or
> electrical equipment for fun. The side of the
> school with the shed is the only part I can think
> of that even has electrical wires in plain sight.
> I highly doubt Bennett and his friends were
> climbing and playing on the wires. What is more
> likely is he grabbed it for support, maybe even on
> accident. The wires are actually avoidable
> entirely if you climb up on top of the shed, so I
> really believe Bennett accidentally grabbed it.
>
> Lastly, I want to stress that teenagers are not
> using the roof as a means of a place to hangout. I
> believe that Bennett and his friends were only
> going up for the thrill of being on a roof, and
> that's it.I will admit that climbing on a roof of
> any place is probably risky behavior, but cut the
> kids a little slack.
>
> Some of you may disagree with me and argue that
> I'm just another one of the stupid, degenerate
> teenagers that Fairfax County. I'm not trying to
> justify trespassing on school grounds or even
> making poor decisions for a cheap thrill. I just
> want to set things straight.
>
> TL;DR The roof is not a place that teens actually
> hangout, Bennett and his friends were most likely
> NOT playing with the electrical wires.
>
> Source: I am a 19 y/o FCPS alumni who has been on
> the roof of Fox Mill Elementary School.

I call BS. No way a FCPS alum could write as well as you do.

mrmillrstin Wrote:
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> Oh contrare Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Hard Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This is not the school's fault, not the
> > parent's
> > > fault, nor is it the kid's fault (well...).
> Bad
> > > shit happens and as humans, we just gotta
> deal.
> >
> >
> > Actually it is the parent's fault. It happened
> > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all
> minors,
> > so its not the school's fault to watch these
> kids
> > after they leave. This was the parent's failure
> to
> > properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids
> > shouldn't have been up there, but guess what
> > parents? You are responsible for your kids
> while
> > they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess
> what?
> > I do my job, because I know what kids do. I've
> > very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> > prayers are with them and their families, as
> well
> > as their friends & community. Bad things happen
> to
> > good people, but alot of that can get prevented
> if
> > parents realize their job is their children.
>
> Did you really post this.... Do you follow your
> kids 24/7 ? You just set your self up for bad
> karma..... How old are your kids? What a
> judgemental ass you sound like

I don't let my teenaged kids go out without me knowning where. This happened at 9pm, no way in the world would they be out there.

Oh contrare Wrote:
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> mrmillrstin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oh contrare Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Hard Truth Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > This is not the school's fault, not the
> > > parent's
> > > > fault, nor is it the kid's fault (well...).
> > Bad
> > > > shit happens and as humans, we just gotta
> > deal.
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually it is the parent's fault. It
> happened
> > > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all
> > minors,
> > > so its not the school's fault to watch these
> > kids
> > > after they leave. This was the parent's
> failure
> > to
> > > properly superviser their kids. Yes, the kids
> > > shouldn't have been up there, but guess what
> > > parents? You are responsible for your kids
> > while
> > > they're still minors. I'm a parent and guess
> > what?
> > > I do my job, because I know what kids do.
> I've
> > > very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> > > prayers are with them and their families, as
> > well
> > > as their friends & community. Bad things
> happen
> > to
> > > good people, but alot of that can get
> prevented
> > if
> > > parents realize their job is their children.
> >
> > Did you really post this.... Do you follow your
> > kids 24/7 ? You just set your self up for bad
> > karma..... How old are your kids? What a
> > judgemental ass you sound like
>
> I don't let my teenaged kids go out without me
> knowning where. This happened at 9pm, no way in
> the world would they be out there.

It's au contraire, mon amie.

Don't you think you should master English before you tackle French?

pierre Wrote:
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> Oh contrare Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mrmillrstin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Oh contrare Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The Hard Truth Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > This is not the school's fault, not the
> > > > parent's
> > > > > fault, nor is it the kid's fault
> (well...).
> > > Bad
> > > > > shit happens and as humans, we just gotta
> > > deal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually it is the parent's fault. It
> > happened
> > > > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were all
> > > minors,
> > > > so its not the school's fault to watch
> these
> > > kids
> > > > after they leave. This was the parent's
> > failure
> > > to
> > > > properly superviser their kids. Yes, the
> kids
> > > > shouldn't have been up there, but guess
> what
> > > > parents? You are responsible for your kids
> > > while
> > > > they're still minors. I'm a parent and
> guess
> > > what?
> > > > I do my job, because I know what kids do.
> > I've
> > > > very sad for these parents and my hopes and
> > > > prayers are with them and their families,
> as
> > > well
> > > > as their friends & community. Bad things
> > happen
> > > to
> > > > good people, but alot of that can get
> > prevented
> > > if
> > > > parents realize their job is their
> children.
> > >
> > > Did you really post this.... Do you follow
> your
> > > kids 24/7 ? You just set your self up for bad
> > > karma..... How old are your kids? What a
> > > judgemental ass you sound like
> >
> > I don't let my teenaged kids go out without me
> > knowning where. This happened at 9pm, no way in
> > the world would they be out there.
>
> It's au contraire, mon amie.
>
> Don't you think you should master English before
> you tackle French?

Yes, except in this case, "Oh contrare" is the name of a novel. It's a tongue-in-cheek play on the name from said novel. If you knew your French, you'd know why. :)

Fucked up stepping on a land mine trying to get some food for his malnourished little sister. Older brother had died a week before from malaria. One parent dead from car accident and the other is intoxicated 95% of the week.
Just another day on Planet Earth.
Oh yea...some kid fell off a roof and got zapped.
Yesterday's news

Oh contrare Wrote:
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> pierre Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oh contrare Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > mrmillrstin Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Oh contrare Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > The Hard Truth Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > This is not the school's fault, not the
> > > > > parent's
> > > > > > fault, nor is it the kid's fault
> > (well...).
> > > > Bad
> > > > > > shit happens and as humans, we just
> gotta
> > > > deal.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually it is the parent's fault. It
> > > happened
> > > > > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were
> all
> > > > minors,
> > > > > so its not the school's fault to watch
> > these
> > > > kids
> > > > > after they leave. This was the parent's
> > > failure
> > > > to
> > > > > properly superviser their kids. Yes, the
> > kids
> > > > > shouldn't have been up there, but guess
> > what
> > > > > parents? You are responsible for your
> kids
> > > > while
> > > > > they're still minors. I'm a parent and
> > guess
> > > > what?
> > > > > I do my job, because I know what kids do.
> > > I've
> > > > > very sad for these parents and my hopes
> and
> > > > > prayers are with them and their families,
> > as
> > > > well
> > > > > as their friends & community. Bad things
> > > happen
> > > > to
> > > > > good people, but alot of that can get
> > > prevented
> > > > if
> > > > > parents realize their job is their
> > children.
> > > >
> > > > Did you really post this.... Do you follow
> > your
> > > > kids 24/7 ? You just set your self up for
> bad
> > > > karma..... How old are your kids? What a
> > > > judgemental ass you sound like
> > >
> > > I don't let my teenaged kids go out without
> me
> > > knowning where. This happened at 9pm, no way
> in
> > > the world would they be out there.
> >
> > It's au contraire, mon amie.
> >
> > Don't you think you should master English
> before
> > you tackle French?
>
> Yes, except in this case, "Oh contrare" is the
> name of a novel. It's a tongue-in-cheek play on
> the name from said novel. If you knew your French,
> you'd know why. :)


How edgy!

pierre Wrote:
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> Oh contrare Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pierre Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Oh contrare Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > mrmillrstin Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Oh contrare Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > The Hard Truth Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > This is not the school's fault, not
> the
> > > > > > parent's
> > > > > > > fault, nor is it the kid's fault
> > > (well...).
> > > > > Bad
> > > > > > > shit happens and as humans, we just
> > gotta
> > > > > deal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually it is the parent's fault. It
> > > > happened
> > > > > > around 9pm on Tuesday night, they were
> > all
> > > > > minors,
> > > > > > so its not the school's fault to watch
> > > these
> > > > > kids
> > > > > > after they leave. This was the parent's
> > > > failure
> > > > > to
> > > > > > properly superviser their kids. Yes,
> the
> > > kids
> > > > > > shouldn't have been up there, but guess
> > > what
> > > > > > parents? You are responsible for your
> > kids
> > > > > while
> > > > > > they're still minors. I'm a parent and
> > > guess
> > > > > what?
> > > > > > I do my job, because I know what kids
> do.
> > > > I've
> > > > > > very sad for these parents and my hopes
> > and
> > > > > > prayers are with them and their
> families,
> > > as
> > > > > well
> > > > > > as their friends & community. Bad
> things
> > > > happen
> > > > > to
> > > > > > good people, but alot of that can get
> > > > prevented
> > > > > if
> > > > > > parents realize their job is their
> > > children.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you really post this.... Do you
> follow
> > > your
> > > > > kids 24/7 ? You just set your self up for
> > bad
> > > > > karma..... How old are your kids? What a
> > > > > judgemental ass you sound like
> > > >
> > > > I don't let my teenaged kids go out without
> > me
> > > > knowning where. This happened at 9pm, no
> way
> > in
> > > > the world would they be out there.
> > >
> > > It's au contraire, mon amie.
> > >
> > > Don't you think you should master English
> > before
> > > you tackle French?
> >
> > Yes, except in this case, "Oh contrare" is the
> > name of a novel. It's a tongue-in-cheek play on
> > the name from said novel. If you knew your
> French,
> > you'd know why. :)
>
>
> How edgy!

Oh Pierre, haven't you learned anything? Americans don't like the French anymore, so please stay in your own country. Oh, please do something about that awful smell in Paris. I believe it's caused by all your Frenchmen not bathing and wearing deodorant.

History has shown the French Resistance during World War II was nothing more than.....

Hemorrhoids

Teen electrocuted, 3 others injured after contact with power line on school roof in Herndon

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22629367/1-teen-electrocuted-3-others-injured-after-contact-with-power-line-on-school-roof#ixzz2XJfQYKyc
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HERNDON, Va. -
The Fairfax County teenager electrocuted Tuesday night while climbing to the roof of Fox Mill Elementary School may have died while trying to help one of his friends. That is according to the father of Bennett Rill.

His father, Derick Rill, said police officers have conveyed that information to him.

Police say Bennett Rill, 14, died at the school. His three friends, who also climbed up to the roof, survived but were hospitalized. At least two of the three have now been discharged from the hospital.

Bennett’s father says he is not surprised his son came to the aid of a friend.

“He helped me teach Sunday school,” said Derick Rill. “Some of it was for getting the [community service] hours, but after he had gotten the hours, he kept coming. I’d ask him if he’d like to go with me in the morning, and several times he did it without even blinking. He wanted to go.”

Bennett Rill was an “A” level student, and a superior football and basketball player, looking forward to his freshman year of high school. Devastated friends gathered this afternoon for an impromptu memorial service at Rachel Carson Middle School, from which Bennett had just graduated.

The police investigation of the teen’s death continues.
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You better shut the fuck up do not talk to my friend about that HE DIED DAMN IT GIVE HIM SOME RESPECCT EVEN IF U DIED PPL WOULD GIVE A FUCK BUT UR JUSST A BITCH ROT IN HELL

bbbbb Wrote:
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> You better shut the fuck up do not talk to my
> friend about that HE DIED DAMN IT GIVE HIM SOME
> RESPECCT EVEN IF U DIED PPL WOULD GIVE A FUCK BUT
> UR JUSST A BITCH ROT IN HELL

Obvious Troll

Did they ever do anything about those power lines or keeping the kids off the roof?