Non-partisan Partisan Wrote:
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> fmaxwell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Non-partisan Partisan Wrote:
> >
> > > Democrat or republican...who cares?
> >
> > Because the Farrans were targeted because they
> > supported a different candidate than the one
> > supported by the HOA President and their GOP
> > neighbors. The HOA actively tried to suppress
> the
> > free speech of the Farrahs not because of the
> size
> > of their sign (really, 4" is the big deal on a
> > sign that's coming down in a month or two?),
> but
> > rather because they had the nerve to publicly
> > support the 'wrong' candidate.
> >
> > I know you think that your poster demonstrates
> how
> > much more intellectually evolved you are, but
> it
> > really just shows you to be no different than
> the
> > pretentious assholes who have to tell everyone
> > that they don't own a TV. If you don't want to
> > participate in our political process, that's
> your
> > right, but wearing it like a badge of honor is
> > truly misguided.
>
>
> Your opinion, like your contributions to this
> thread, is worthless. When you come up with
> something besides partisan bullshit, perhaps
> you'll be taken seriously by anyone but liberal
> partisans. That should tell even a braindead fuck
> like you what a blind sheeple you are. Just
> another useful idiot bleating from the behind his
> keyboard about how smart he is because he doesn't
> even have the sense to discern a thoughtful image.
> Lemmings on both sides are fucking sumb. And you
> shithead, are one dumb motherfucker.
>
> .


fmaxwell. Sorry, I went a little overboard. Yes, I think you're a hyperpartisan and therefore, part of the problem with this country. But that was no cause for my pottymouth. It's been a long day and perhaps I took some of it out on you.

"do you have any proof of that shithead or are you, like any other partisan jackass, just throwing your worthless opinion around based on donations from one guy on the board? Were republicans allowed to post bigger signs or something?"

The President of the HOA, Jim LeBlanc, was supporting McCain to the tune of hundreds of dollars at the time that they came down on the Farrans for an Obama yard sign. Don Hughes, another board member, likened residents' non-compliance with HOA rules to the “cat and mouse game Saddam Hussein played with the USA.” GOP much, Don?

Ultimately, one has to form judgments based on facts and reasoning. It's absurd to think that a 4" larger than spec sign was really the big issue; a sign that was coming down right after the election, obviously. No rational person could honestly believe that a normal-size sign supporting a mainstream Presidential candidate was doing to drive down property values or create "chaos" as one resident wrote. So you have to try to figure out what was really driving the HOA's decision. I can't see any other rational explanation other than who the various parties were supporting in the election. If you've got another explanation (e.g. the Farrans murdered the HOA President's poodle or peed into his open convertible), I'd be happy to consider it.



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Still think this is funny Wrote:
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> fmaxwell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The stuff movies are made from Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > I'm inclined to agree with the Farrans but
> > mature
> > > individuals would have laughed it off 3 years
> > ago.
> > > They won in court but no one will be able to
> > sell
> > > now.
> >
> > I don't think you'd "laugh it off" if your HOA
> was
> > trying to fine you $900 for a yard sign and
> > denying you the right to perform maintenance
> and
> > improvements on the home you bought. Compared
> to
> > the HOA, the Farrans were quite mature: They
> used
> > the court system to set precedents limiting
> what
> > can be done by vindictive HOAs.
>
>
> I would never live in a community governed by a
> HOA. I own a nice old house on a nice old street
> with trees and friends for neighbors. When a tree
> falls we form a commitee to decide who gets the
> firewood and who buys the beer.

and where you live?

Non-partisan Partisan Wrote:

> fmaxwell. Sorry, I went a little overboard. Yes,
> I think you're a hyperpartisan and therefore, part
> of the problem with this country. But that was no
> cause for my pottymouth. It's been a long day and
> perhaps I took some of it out on you.

You're a good man for saying that. Thank you. I deleted my in-kind reply and am replacing it with this.

I don't view politics as a sport, where it's my team vs. another team. I vote for the people who share my values and who have plans that make sense going forward. That I vote for Democrats is not because I'm "hyper-partisan." It's because I agree with them. I see real progress in the last four years (stock market, housing market, bank stability, auto industry, LGBT rights, anti-terrorism efforts, consumer confidence, etc.). If that makes me hyper-partisan in your eyes, so be it.

fmaxwell Wrote:
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> PmbDd Wrote:
>
> > Most HOA's CAN create new rules --- the
> authority
> > to do so is usually stated in the bylaws or
> > declaration, so be careful what you do and read
> > before do anything more.
>
> But there are limits, as the court decisions
> showed. The HOA can't create an very high fine
> just to exact revenge on one couple. They can't
> hold secret, unannounced meetings at which they
> vote down home improvements based on their dislike
> of specific homeowners.

They ain't rules...the "fine" was limited to $900 by law -- which is what they charged.

The law don't discriminate against unreasonable rules...different issue and problem.

A "secret" meeting gots nuttin to do with rules. But I am sure their declaration provided for meeting notice and the right of the executive organ to waive that notice any time it wanted or needed to.

It ain't secret, but it ain't open neither, so blame yer blue-bloods in Richmond for the hideous dysfunctional laws they created and that witch named Pia Trigiani (from Alexandria no less) for being the condo queen who pushes all her dogma and legal bullshit forward on the ignorant fools in Richmond who make the law.

A doomed governance model for sure.

Scrap it and start over.

Still think this is funny Wrote:

> I would never live in a community governed by a
> HOA. I own a nice old house on a nice old street
> with trees and friends for neighbors. When a tree
> falls we form a commitee to decide who gets the
> firewood and who buys the beer.

That was a rule that we gave our real-estate agent for both homes we bought in Alexandria: No governing HOA. I completely agree with you. HOAs end up being run by the most petty busy-bodies in the communities.

fmaxwell Wrote:
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> HOA Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The neighbors are closer to the problem than
> you
> > and its clear what their call was: the Farrans
> > are pieces of shit.
> >
> > Face it you idiot: you lose.
>
> Again, you calling me an idiot is like Casey
> Anthony calling someone else a bad mom.
>
> The neighbors in the 1950s were "closer to the
> problem" when the first black family moved into
> their neighborhood. They had all kinds of
> offensive words to describe the black family. But
> it doesn't mean they were right.


Grow up --- sticks and stones....google it, kiddo.

Nothing has changed. Where I live, as soon as blacks started moving in, houses that have not sold in decades are on the market one after another. 2012, not 1950. White wants to live with white --- none of em want to see black kids with their asses and boxers hanging out cursing and pissing all over the place. And we are not talking granny and gramps --- these are their fairfax-county educated 30 something kids who should know better.

dut9h Wrote:
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> Still think this is funny Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fmaxwell Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The stuff movies are made from Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > > I'm inclined to agree with the Farrans but
> > > mature
> > > > individuals would have laughed it off 3
> years
> > > ago.
> > > > They won in court but no one will be able
> to
> > > sell
> > > > now.
> > >
> > > I don't think you'd "laugh it off" if your
> HOA
> > was
> > > trying to fine you $900 for a yard sign and
> > > denying you the right to perform maintenance
> > and
> > > improvements on the home you bought.
> Compared
> > to
> > > the HOA, the Farrans were quite mature: They
> > used
> > > the court system to set precedents limiting
> > what
> > > can be done by vindictive HOAs.
> >
> >
> > I would never live in a community governed by a
> > HOA. I own a nice old house on a nice old
> street
> > with trees and friends for neighbors. When a
> tree
> > falls we form a commitee to decide who gets the
> > firewood and who buys the beer.
>
> and where you live?

In a house. Lots of them in Fairfax. No HOAs either.
If you seek you shall find.
East Fairfax near Alexandria

Assuming that none of the folks on this thread are part of the association, we don't really know what went on beyond what we read in Sunday's paper. But surely the people who live there have a good idea and if the HOA really is the evil body that some people (on FFXU) claim it to be then the Post's story should have been filled with other home owners praising the courage of the Farrans and damning the HOA. I'm reasonably sure that a good reporter would have easily sniffed those people out. But they seemed to be conspicuously absent from the story.

Certainly it's true that the Farrans won the lawsuit and the HOA behaved badly. But the HOAs bad behavior was downstream of the original fuss over the sign. Strictly a personal view, but maybe the Farrans didn't take the HOA covenant seriously. Maybe they never lived under an HOA before. Given that one of them is a lawyer you'd think they would have been more aware of what they were getting into and would have been more adept at deescalating and disengaging.

On the flip side, the HOA should have been savvy enough to give the Farrans a 90 day notice and the after the election was over, assuming the sign was removed, declare victory.

WpvFy Wrote:


> They ain't rules...the "fine" was limited to $900
> by law -- which is what they charged.

No, the HOA voted to charge $900 for a single offense, not aggregating fines over time as the law allows.

> A "secret" meeting gots nuttin to do with rules.
> But I am sure their declaration provided for
> meeting notice and the right of the executive
> organ to waive that notice any time it wanted or
> needed to.

And the judge disagreed with the HOA's claim that it had a right to operate in that manner.

> Scrap it and start over.

Agreed.

can't we all just get along?

HowDoWeKnow? Wrote:
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> On the flip side, the HOA should have been savvy
> enough to give the Farrans a 90 day notice and the
> after the election was over, assuming the sign was
> removed, declare victory.

This would have been the smart and prudent thing to do, but it's patently obvious that the Olde Belhaven HOA board was packed with people who had no fucking clue what they were doing and at least one asshole (if not more) with an axe to grind and who shanghaied the board to work out his own petty vendettas.

As you said, the smart thing to do would have been to send a letter with a 90 day notice. Cost to the board, maybe a few bucks, tops, and when the sign came down after the election, they could have chalked it up as a win. Instead, they voted themselves fining powers where they had none, and I will bet money and give you odds that they didn't bother to consult the association's attorney before doing this.

They Did it to Themselves Wrote:

Instead, they voted
> themselves fining powers where they had none, and
> I will bet money and give you odds that they
> didn't bother to consult the association's
> attorney before doing this.


Yup, no doubt.

My family is from that beautiful historic area. These people should be ashamed.

That entire cluster can burn to the ground.

fmaxwell Wrote:
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>> You don't know shit about what the politics of the
> people complaining about the sign, do you,
> asshole?
>
> Here's the then-President, Jim LeBlanc of the
> HOA:
>
> LEBLANC, JIM MR.
> ALEXANDRIA, VA 22307
> AMERICAN-KUWAITI ALLIANCE
>
> MCCAIN, JOHN S.
> VIA JOHN MCCAIN 2008 INC.
> 08/09/2007 $500.00 28930056284
> 02/19/2008 $200.00 28991224178
>
> See that 22307? That's the ZIP Code of Old
> Belhaven.
>
> And here's how he funneled contributions through
> the businesses he ran:
>
> LEBLANC, JIM
> FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041
> UNITY RESOURCES GROUP/BUSINESSMAN
>
> ROMNEY, MITT / RYAN, PAUL D.
> VIA ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT INC.
> 10/23/2011 $500.00 12952881885
>
> Total Contributions: $1200.00
>
> Joint Fundraising Contributions
>
> These are contributions to committees who are
> raising funds to be distributed to other
> committees. The breakdown of these contributions
> to their final recipients may appear below
>
> LEBLANC, JIM
> FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041
> J. LEBLANC INTERNATIONAL LLC
>
> ROMNEY VICTORY INC
> 08/14/2012 $400.00 12961054526
>
> LEBLANC, JIM MR.
> FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041
> J. LEBLANC INTERNATIONAL LLC
>
> ROMNEY VICTORY INC
> 10/24/2012 $400.00 12941237589
>
> Total Joint Fundraising: $800.00
>
> Recipient of Joint Fundraiser Contributions
>
> These are the Final Recipients of Joint
> Fundraising Contributions
>
> LEBLANC, JIM
> FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041
> J. LEBLANC INTERNATIONAL LLC
>
> ROMNEY, MITT / RYAN, PAUL D.
> VIA ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT INC.
> 08/14/2012 $400.00 12953073991
>
> LEBLANC, JIM MR.
> FALLS CHURCH, VA 22041
> J. LEBLANC INTERNATIONAL LLC
>
> ROMNEY, MITT / RYAN, PAUL D.
> VIA ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT INC.
> 10/24/2012 $400.00 12963835692
>
> Recipient Total: $800.00
>
> Here's another clue for you, from the WaPo
> article:
>
> > In one case, board member Don Hughes compared
> > some residents’ refusal to install window-pane
>
> > dividers to the “cat and mouse game Saddam
> > Hussein played with the USA,” e-mails show.
> > Ultimately, Hussein “paid the price,” he
> said,
> > concluding that the residents should comply.
>
> That reeks of G.W. Bush supporter.
>
> And your comment about Obama just reeks of Rush
> Limbaugh levels of ignorance. Look at the stock
> market, Osama Bin Laden, GM, and the banking
> sector if you want to see examples of how Obama
> has been doing.


See a republican under very bed fmax? Spend 24 hours a day investigating conspiracies? You need help, serious fucking help.

Earlier I just thought you were just a fucking idiot, now I know you're a looney motherfucker.

Wow, what a fucking nut

@HOA Fan - see unrelated.... LoLz...


pic unrelated

I dont know who you are, mini-me..................but you are AWESOME!
@HOA - watch out for "bat-shit".............trust me.........................
@496 - looks like they are very much on the way there LoLz
@They Did it to Themselves - but that would require elitist fucks swallowing their pride. You think about what sorta ppl we are dealing with here, my friend.
@wnsrm - when you find yourself quoting drunk driving coke heads, you SERIOUSLY need to start questioning yr judgement, ok? LoLz

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> I dont know who you are,
> mini-me..................but you are AWESOME!
> @HOA - watch out for "bat-shit".............trust
> me.........................
> @496 - looks like they are very much on the way
> there LoLz
> @They Did it to Themselves - but that would
> require elitist fucks swallowing their pride. You
> think about what sorta ppl we are dealing with
> here, my friend.
> @wnsrm - when you find yourself quoting drunk
> driving coke heads, you SERIOUSLY need to start
> questioning yr judgement, ok? LoLz


Thanks for your insightful input Gordon. Your posts are always so anticipated. lolz

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you know the thread's dead when ppl focus on the crap I'm saying so much they start forgetting their meds LoLz

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> I dont know who you are,
> mini-me..................but you are AWESOME!

And you mini-me, are you gay too?

God first created idiots, then school boards and then HOA's.

Is there any possible way both sides of this infantile dispute could lose?

Hughes- you need to stop eating the paint chips.

HowDoWeKnow? Wrote:
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> Assuming that none of the folks on this thread are
> part of the association, we don't really know what
> went on beyond what we read in Sunday's paper. But
> surely the people who live there have a good idea
> and if the HOA really is the evil body that some
> people (on FFXU) claim it to be then the Post's
> story should have been filled with other home
> owners praising the courage of the Farrans and
> damning the HOA. I'm reasonably sure that a good
> reporter would have easily sniffed those people
> out. But they seemed to be conspicuously absent
> from the story.
>
> Certainly it's true that the Farrans won the
> lawsuit and the HOA behaved badly. But the HOAs
> bad behavior was downstream of the original fuss
> over the sign. Strictly a personal view, but
> maybe the Farrans didn't take the HOA covenant
> seriously. Maybe they never lived under an HOA
> before. Given that one of them is a lawyer you'd
> think they would have been more aware of what they
> were getting into and would have been more adept
> at deescalating and disengaging.
>
> On the flip side, the HOA should have been savvy
> enough to give the Farrans a 90 day notice and the
> after the election was over, assuming the sign was
> removed, declare victory.



HOA's an condo board as a rule hate to admit they are wrong. I questioned the legality of an action of a HOA to its management company, and asked the management company to check with their lawyer on it because if it isn't illegal, it could be considered negligent.

The management company guy emailed me back saying since the board did not ask him to ask the lawyer there is no need to get the lawyer involved, and he was not going to ask the lawyer the question, or even get the lawyer involved.

Unfortunately, the management guy actually cc'd the lawyer on the email he sent me.

I then sent an email to the lawyer, saying I knew he is now involved in the decision, and his firm could be easily considered part of the bad decision making process that lead to the dangerous situation the board was proposing (allowing their worker to park his truck on a sidewalk next to a "No parking Anytime sign").

They quietly changed their decision, but never admitted their mistake.

HOA's consist of noisy, arrogant Gestapo wannabes.
Usually anal attentive people who have litlle control of their pathetic lives so they attempt to control others.

CFM Mgt does not know how to BCC Wrote:
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>
> HOA's an condo board as a rule hate to admit they
> are wrong.

But in that regard they are not really different than any other organization to include corporations, government agencies, unions, PTA boards, etc. I suspect the local chapter of the Red Cross would not want to admit a mistake. It's simply how organizations function.

From that, it does not follow that the HOA board members are Gestpo or spawn of the devil (although one could argue that at least one and probabaly two Bellhaven HOA members were pretty vindictive and as another poster pointed out, probabaly hijacked the rest of the board.)

The HOA refuses to admit its wrong? What about Mr and Mrs Stupid Fuck who broke the rules and then wiped out the assocoaition to get even with the HOA?

Maybe if they admitted they were wrong to start with and didn't file a lawsuit that wiped out their community and several lives of elderly people we wouldn't have to deal with this shit.

I just hope God gives those motherfuckers what they deserve.

Lots of uninformed postings here. Let's see if we can clear it up some. First, this was not an abridgement of free speech - the 1st Amendment limits the Government's abridgement of free speech and HOA/COAs are not government. Second, this was the only sign in support of any party that was oversized,so any charge of partisanship by the HOA is unsupported. Third, HOA/COAs do not enjoy the luxury of looking the other way when a rule is broken, not even a minor rule for a few days - look the other way just once for an oversized yard sign and the next guy who opens a junk car garage business on his front lawn will scream "selective enforcement" of HOA rules. Fourth, the HOA's loss on the issue of fines was the result of a County judge's construction of a new interpretation of State law - somewhat unfortunate it forced the HOA into bankruptcy as they might have won on appeal to a district or state court. Finally, the HOA's loss on the deck/roof issue was also a bit of a technicality - HOA's are allowed to have "board only private" meetings to discuss rules violations, but they have to announce they are doing so - they forgot to announce their so called "secret" meeting.

@unfrozen -

1) cute sidestep on the 1st Admend arguement. However, since the HOA was acting as a defacto Govt entity in this particular incident, the accusation stands. Any municipality in VA can NOT ban politix signs, but they can regulate their size, height, crap like that. And that's what HOA was trying to do in this case - act like a municipality. Diff states have diff rules on all this , but in VA it's still all up in the air on if an HOA can legally, actually play like it's a municipality when it comes to crap like this.

2) Yr leaving out that the ppl cut the sign so it was no longer oversized - made two legit-sized signs and STILL were focused upon by this HOA

3) Thye dont have the LUXURY to look away!?!?!? BWAAH HA HA HA HA HAA HH AHA HA HA HA !!! That's plain bullshit and YOU KNOW IT! They dont have the luxury. Yeah, HOA's NEVER play favorites! Never a CLIQUE in an HOA! Tell us another one, Yr KILLING US HERE!!! HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

4) so yr saying the "forgot" to do their JOB? (i.e. annouce about the board only meeting) What, was it their first day? Who's dicks did they have to suck in order to get that job, anyways? How many other "secret meetings" did they "forget" to tell the ppl who pay their dues?

Some HOA

What were all of the other residents doing when this witchhunt was going on? If my HOA dues were increasing exponentially because of a HOA's bullshit lawsuit moneypit, I'd go to a meeting a file a motion to cease and desist, get a petition to stop the madness, and try to dissolve the board. That HOA would have another lawsuit on its hands by trying to get me to pay the increased fees for something I had no part in.

__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

Warhawk Wrote:
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> What were all of the other residents doing when
> this witchhunt was going on? If my HOA dues were
> increasing exponentially because of a HOA's
> bullshit lawsuit moneypit, I'd go to a
> meeting a file a motion to cease and desist, get a
> petition to stop the madness, and try to dissolve
> the board. That HOA would have another lawsuit on
> its hands by trying to get me to pay the increased
> fees for something I had no part in.

I think that this was the action of a few that went unchecked for too long. Maybe the lawyer expected to be paid later when the defendant lost.

There are many "relatively innocent" victims in this mess. They're somewhere between trusting the elected people to do their job and watching the elected people do their job. How aware were all the owners?

I wonder if all the legal stuff involved in an HOA excludes elected officers from any personal liability.

So what's the neighborhood like for the defendants? What's it like for the HOA board members that took it this far an lost? If I was an owner in that community, I'd be much more pissed at the HOA board members.

I-Blame-the-Farrans Wrote:
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> The HOA refuses to admit its wrong? What about Mr
> and Mrs Stupid Fuck who broke the rules and then
> wiped out the assocoaition to get even with the
> HOA?
>
> Maybe if they admitted they were wrong to start
> with and didn't file a lawsuit that wiped out
> their community and several lives of elderly
> people we wouldn't have to deal with this shit.
>
> I just hope God gives those motherfuckers what
> they deserve.

I'm serious here. I want to know your opinion.

How does the HOA's loss in court work into your statement above?

What you wrote makes much more sense if the HOA would have won the court case.

wnrsm Wrote:
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> I-Blame-the-Farrans Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The HOA refuses to admit its wrong? What about
> Mr
> > and Mrs Stupid Fuck who broke the rules and
> then
> > wiped out the assocoaition to get even with the
> > HOA?
> >
> > Maybe if they admitted they were wrong to start
> > with and didn't file a lawsuit that wiped out
> > their community and several lives of elderly
> > people we wouldn't have to deal with this shit.
> >
> > I just hope God gives those motherfuckers what
> > they deserve.
>
> I'm serious here. I want to know your opinion.
>
> How does the HOA's loss in court work into your
> statement above?
>
> What you wrote makes much more sense if the HOA
> would have won the court case.

The two are separate issues. The loss in court
was over the HOA's inability to assess $900 for the violation,
not that the violation did or didn't occur.

Huh?

@blame - means the judge spanked the HOA SPECIFICALLY for trying to grab the cash. The judge also SPECIFICALLY did NOT spank the HOA for going after the sign..................

"Gordon Blvd" wrote at 01:00PM on Feb 16: "cute sidestep on the 1st Admend arguement. However, since the HOA was acting as a defacto Govt entity..."
If the HOA were considered "a defacto Govt entity" there never would have been a lawsuit. Hey GordoDildo, suggest you keep your 'tard logic as far away from a courtroom as you possibly can get... you wouldn't make it past the bailiff at the entry door until you bribed him with a sexual favor.

unfrozencavemanlawyer Wrote:
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> "Gordon Blvd" wrote at 01:00PM on Feb 16: "cute
> sidestep on the 1st Admend arguement. However,
> since the HOA was acting as a defacto Govt
> entity..."
> If the HOA were considered "a defacto Govt entity"
> there never would have been a lawsuit. Hey
> GordoDildo, suggest you keep your 'tard logic as
> far away from a courtroom as you possibly can
> get... you wouldn't make it past the bailiff at
> the entry door until you bribed him with a sexual
> favor.


Gordo can't help himself ... he post 700 times a day

GORDO GET A FUCKINBG JOB OR A SHRINK

@huh - anyone wasting their life moments counting my posts is the one who needs a shrink LoLz

@unfrozen - whelp, since they arent considered a Govt entity, they shouldnt hav been ACTING like one (i.e. giving ppl fine) which is kinda why they lost.

try and keep up, kiddo ;)

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @huh - anyone wasting their life moments counting
> my posts is the one who needs a shrink LoLz
>
> @unfrozen - whelp, since they arent considered a
> Govt entity, they shouldnt hav been ACTING like
> one (i.e. giving ppl fine) which is kinda why they
> lost.
>
> try and keep up, kiddo ;)


Shaddup you homo

pro tip: homophobia is gay LoLz

pic unrelated
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GordoIsGay Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @huh - anyone wasting their life moments
> counting
> > my posts is the one who needs a shrink LoLz
> >
> > @unfrozen - whelp, since they arent considered
> a
> > Govt entity, they shouldnt hav been ACTING like
> > one (i.e. giving ppl fine) which is kinda why
> they
> > lost.
> >
> > try and keep up, kiddo ;)
>
>
> Shaddup you homo

"It takes one to know one".
Childrens proverb
If you cannot differentiate a female from a male you had better start watching glee and stay out of prison.

That's an awesome pic!

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> pro tip: homophobia is gay LoLz
>
> pic unrelated

That's a good question.


Warhawk Wrote:
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> What were all of the other residents doing when
> this witchhunt was going on? If my HOA dues were
> increasing exponentially because of a HOA's
> bullshit lawsuit moneypit, I'd go to a
> meeting a file a motion to cease and desist, get a
> petition to stop the madness, and try to dissolve
> the board. That HOA would have another lawsuit on
> its hands by trying to get me to pay the increased
> fees for something I had no part in.

They probably were to intimidated to shout out.
I find this whole story hilarious.


katiesmith Wrote:
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> That's a good question.
>
>
> Warhawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What were all of the other residents doing when
> > this witchhunt was going on? If my HOA dues
> were
> > increasing exponentially because of a HOA's
> > bullshit lawsuit moneypit, I'd go to a
> > meeting a file a motion to cease and desist, get
> a
> > petition to stop the madness, and try to
> dissolve
> > the board. That HOA would have another lawsuit
> on
> > its hands by trying to get me to pay the
> increased
> > fees for something I had no part in.

I am new to this site, however for all who have posted I ask you to know this:

1/ The President of the Bellehaven H.O.A. is a very nice, kind, quiet and fair individual who was asked to help the H.O.A a few years ago. He will be vindicated from anyone's wrong comments about him.

2/ The couple, are legal opportunists. If you think anyone in this community has time to care about someone's political persuasion- think again. Think of your own life. Do you really have time to care about your neighbor's political persuasion?

S.S. Wrote:
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> I am new to this site, however for all who have
> posted I ask you to know this:
>
> 1/ The President of the Bellehaven H.O.A. is a
> very nice, kind, quiet and fair individual who was
> asked to help the H.O.A a few years ago. He will
> be vindicated from anyone's wrong comments about
> him.
>
> 2/ The couple, are legal opportunists. If you
> think anyone in this community has time to care
> about someone's political persuasion- think again.
> Think of your own life. Do you really have time
> to care about your neighbor's political
> persuasion?

West Virginia mentality?
Neighbors gone wild. Who really cares except the dumb ass community that allowed something so petty to escalate to the point of a "for sale" sign.
Pretty fucking silly to be so arrogant.
The makings of another reality show?

Hatfields and McCoys or Wrote:
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> S.S. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am new to this site, however for all who have
> > posted I ask you to know this:
> >
> > 1/ The President of the Bellehaven H.O.A. is a
> > very nice, kind, quiet and fair individual who
> was
> > asked to help the H.O.A a few years ago. He
> will
> > be vindicated from anyone's wrong comments
> about
> > him.
> >
> > 2/ The couple, are legal opportunists. If you
> > think anyone in this community has time to care
> > about someone's political persuasion- think
> again.
> > Think of your own life. Do you really have
> time
> > to care about your neighbor's political
> > persuasion?
>
> West Virginia mentality?
> Neighbors gone wild. Who really cares except the
> dumb ass community that allowed something so petty
> to escalate to the point of a "for sale" sign.
> Pretty fucking silly to be so arrogant.
> The makings of another reality show?

It isn't funny when you can't sell your townhouse.
Or is it? I wouldn't have put up with the HOA's bullshit.

Watching Closely Wrote:
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> A group of us are about to sue our HOA board...
> all because they won't let us put a picnic table
> near the tennis courts.

So how did that go?

If I knew how to get in contact with the Farrans. I would take them out to dinner, send them flowers, etc. These Boards of directors are bullies. They find someone they don't like and bully them. If I had a sign in my front yard, two inches larger than it should be, how would you know and who would care. If I had the money, I would definitely have sued both of the boards that I belong to. The condo board and the rec assoc. Everyone that buys into a home association controlled community are at the mercy of a few power hungry homeowners. By the way, many positions on the boards are held by landlords who come into the community to set up rules and then head back to their homes that are outside of the community. How is that fair? If you are going to set rules, you should have to abide by those rules the same as everyone in the community. I'm happy they're still in the community and I hope someone can point out to the community that it was their HOA that is responsible for this mess.

Good for the Farran's The HOA wiped themselves out with all their unrealistic
demands. They forced the lawsuit upon them selves.

Exactly why to move to a neighborhood wiThout an HOA.

Except, Fairfax has become one big HOA with all of these zoning rules and zoning enforcement people with police powers. Pretty soon Bulova will want a camera in every room of every home to make sure the rules are being followed.

FFX = One Big HOA Wrote:
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> Except, Fairfax has become one big HOA with all of
> these zoning rules and zoning enforcement people
> with police powers. Pretty soon Bulova will want a
> camera in every room of every home to make sure
> the rules are being followed.

yeah..........it's Sharon Bulova wanting all this personally.

It has not a thing to do at all with stuck up ppl who RESIDE here who feel they need to complain to Govt officials on every little thing.

Has nothing to do at all with ppl who'd rather call County up and have them send people over to settle an issue instead of simply talking to a neighbor

Yep, the zoning ppl - they just want to set up rules just for fun - good logic there o_0

A large amount of this is because people won't police themselves. Many of the idiotic rules that govern us are a direct result of people who make decisions based solely on what is best for them, and to hell with how they impact the neighbors.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> A large amount of this is because people won't
> police themselves. Many of the idiotic rules that
> govern us are a direct result of people who make
> decisions based solely on what is best for them,
> and to hell with how they impact the neighbors.

@Bill - maybe so...........but I'm just saying dont blame the Gub-mint for giving the people what they want - which apparently in Funfax County is lawn police.

p.s. I mean "you" in general, not "you", Bill N. personally LoLz

Actually Bulova has said many times she wants a high tax "womb to worm" society like Sweden with the surveillance "kick" the UK has to deter crime. So yah I would say a lot of this is her idea.

Time for her to go, even if that means bringing back the Republicans.

o rly? link pls

Actually Gordon I was responding generally as opposed to your specific response.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Actually Gordon I was responding generally as
> opposed to your specific response.

well, DUH!

still, my "you" wasnt directed at "you" is all.....................

Yeah, it's harder and harder to find houses, especially newer ones, not in neighborhoods with HOAs. The trade off is an older house that needs work and in a lower cost neighborhood with all the attendent problems that presents.

fmaxwell Wrote:
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> Political free speech is more important than some
> HOA rules put in place by impotent little
> Napoleon-complex asshats like you.
> They had to deal with anal-retentive, limp-dick
> pricks like you. That's where the trouble
> started. Want to avoid trouble and lawsuits?
> Don't fuck with people for putting up a normal
> political yard sign. Don't try to make up new
> rules to fine them $900. Don't fuck with them
> when they want to put up a perfectly acceptable
> deck on their own property. Oh yes, it’s the
> nasty HOAs fault that’s why these are the only
< people with an issue.

Window panes - Saddam?

Wtf planet do cunts like that live on?

Love how the article tried painting a sad picture about geriatric cat ladies and their health issues and fixed incomes.

That explains everything. A bunch of old busibodies with nothing better to do than fuck with people.