The origins of the name are not certain.

local man 1973 Wrote:
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> Why is it called Gallows road anyway? Was it the
> road to the place where they killed people?


Yes. Conveniently located near the Old Courthouse.

Historians don't know precisely where either was.
Somewhere around Tysons, between the DMV and Stargate/toilet bowl.

Plenty of threads on this if you bother to search.

The road was originally Gallo, after Italians that grew grapes and made wine, pranksters added the w s after they left for California as no one was much of a whiner in Virginia at the time and there where plenty of whiners heading to the golden state.

They should have stayed in Virginia. Nova's overran with liberal Democrat whiners today, sales at 7-11 are MAGA for whiners that like the cheap stuff

Now there was a courthouse, a old courthouse road and a area named Freedom Hill up that way

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/269229.html

Dammn some one beat to the wine joke 9 years ago may have been the pranksters that changed the name .That's all the history youll get on Google, and it all came from NOVAS history site, FXU lol

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> This is supposed to be Alexandria hospital from
> 1047.


Oh, that’s wonderful. I’ve never seen that. Where was it located? I’d love to be able to walk through it today, as it was. Too bad the building wasn’t saved. Thanks AR! That was a great surprise to see.

1964 at the height of rush hour.
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The W&OD train traveling through Arlington, Virginia's Bluemont Junction, circa 1958 (Courtesy W&OD Railroad Regional Park)
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WO&D caboose 502 reportedly retired from service in 1934 but kept at Bluemont junction for years after and used for storage and a inclement weather shelter for rail workers.
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The W&OD has meant a great deal to the region, first and foremost as a local railroad, and then as a wonderful resource for local bikers and joggers.

Tops at George Mason dr & Lee highway back in the day!
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Late 1970s I worked at Top’s Cleaners on Lee Hwy next-door to the restaurant. At that time, Gino’s was the restaurant. The cleaners was family-owned and both husband wife were onsite everyday. The husband was a pervert.

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LOL the ad

$7,656.00. What year?

2 flame broiled beef burgers cheese lettuce toasted bun

And that Secret Sauce always that Secret Sauce lol But the Big Shef at the Burger Chef was good

If you ever open a burger place or serve a burger you got to have Secret Sauce, mayo ketchup pickle relish Shssh ! Its a big secret you may have to head to the
Thousand Islands to figure it out
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"Good evening sir, may I see your drivers license and registration , your left turn signal is not working . Sir I detect the odor of alcohol , will you please step out of the vehicle"

Starting salary was 764 a month in 1975, big money! You got a new car at graduation and were paid for 1 meal per shift and you could not live in your home county when you started. And those VSP Plymouths back then could hit 140 with that 440 under the hood and that's no laugh ! Coal mine strikes getting wild in SW Va and 100 down I 81 which was fairly new then ..Side arm was a .38 special blue steel S&W Model 10 with 158 grain round nose ammo , and in many Virginia counties at night you could be the only lawman out there on the road for miles around.

Treat people fairly with respect no matter what race or religion they are ,and you will be treated fairly and your badge respected too and that was the VSP's creed even back then
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"To Protect and Serve" became "To Harass and Detain". The friendly cop on the beat became a jack-booted thug. I don't give a lot of thanks for that.

You Know The Drill Wrote:
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> 2 flame broiled beef burgers cheese lettuce
> toasted bun
>
> And that Secret Sauce always that Secret Sauce lol
> But the Big Shef at the Burger Chef was good
>
> If you ever open a burger place or serve a burger
> you got to have Secret Sauce, mayo ketchup pickle
> relish Shssh ! Its a big secret you may have to
> head to the
> Thousand Islands to figure it out

Actually, Burger Chef's secret sauce was a special Tarter Sauce. It worked.

Bobs Big Boy was the first on the double burgers with the half bun between them and I always thought they were the best, much more expensive then the others

The Big Mac then The Big Chef I liked both and also liked many of Burger Chefs offerings and why they closed , have to Wonder if Richard Nixon's brother Donald was a partner, he was the only person in So Cal that went bankrupt selling hamburgers , its pretty funny now, about his brother and I still think Richard Nixon was a good president

I had to look it up, I heard that one a long time ago but never got the details and saw this lol

http://mentalfloss.com/article/62576/how-burger-joint-almost-ruined-richard-nixon

"A lot of presidents seem to have “that” brother. Jimmy Carter had Billy, and Bill Clinton has Roger. Then there’s Don Nixon.

Back in the ‘50s, Dick’s younger brother, Don, ran a chain of drive-in burger joints in California. Customers could enjoy fish sticks and fries for just 40 cents, a banana split for 25 cents, or a “Nixonburger” with cheese for 20 cents.

Despite these reasonable prices and a family-friendly atmosphere, Nixon’s wasn’t doing so well. In 1956, Don took a loan of $205,000 from Howard Hughes—yes, Spruce Goose Howard Hughes—in order to keep his operations afloat. When Dick Nixon’s opponents dug up this dirt during the campaign season for the 1960 elections, the press had a field day with it. Tricky Dick’s political enemies insisted it proved Hughes had a stronghold over the family, and the whole affair became a punchline for political cartoons and practical jokers. During a campaign stop in San Francisco’s Chinatown, the future president was convinced to pose for a photo op in front of a large banner with Chinese characters written on it. A resident eventually whispered to him that the sign read, “What about the Hughes loan?”

Later the same day, Nixon was having lunch with community leaders when fortune cookies were passed out post-meal. After the entire crowd broke out laughing, he discovered that the paper inside each cookie read,

“Ask him about the Hughes loan.”

Though there were other contributing factors to JFK’s eventual election win that year, the Nixonburger Scandal was right up there. And to add insult to injury, the loan ended up being completely useless: Despite the money, the restaurants went under and Don filed for bankruptcy in 1961. Don worried that he had cost his brother the election, and Nixon assured him that the scandal only had an impact in California, which they won anyway.

However, during testimony over the Watergate scandal years later, it became clear that the elder Nixon never did regain much trust in his younger brother: Dick admitted to having his brother’s phone wiretapped to monitor any shady business dealings.

Was EESH working in a Chinese fortune cookie place back then lol

Times have changed Wrote:
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> "To Protect and Serve" became "To Harass and
> Detain". The friendly cop on the beat became a
> jack-booted thug. I don't give a lot of thanks
> for that.


When having interaction with a police officer do not act like an ignorant asshole.

Pathetic Idiots Abound Wrote:
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> Times have changed Wrote:
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> > "To Protect and Serve" became "To Harass and
> > Detain". The friendly cop on the beat became a
> > jack-booted thug. I don't give a lot of thanks
> > for that.
>
>
> When having interaction with a police officer do
> not act like an ignorant asshole.

Tell that to the family of Dr. Sal Culosi

The point being, Dr. Sal Culosi didn't have the chance to act like anything before being gunned down, while standing in his doorway in his boxers.

It would be interesting to know, besides wearing boxers, what else was Dr. Sal Culosi wearing that day? Pants? Nothing else?

What indeed were his actions? Good? Bad?

I don't know. Wasn't there.

Does it sound OK?

Find out for yourself.

>To Protect and Serve" became "To Harass and Detain". The friendly cop on the beat became a jack-booted thug. I don't give a lot of thanks for that.

So your Illegal or your a Screamer

No borders either way, no USA right

Do you think that learning and knowing the difference between "your" and "you're" might be a great start for you?

eye see you two Wrote:
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> The point being, Dr. Sal Culosi didn't have the
> chance to act like anything before being gunned
> down, while standing in his doorway in his boxers.

everybody has a bad day every once in a while......

Sheesh...How about a Monday Burger throwback pic...Annandale
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Sleepy Holla Wrote:
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> Sheesh...How about a Monday Burger throwback
> pic...Annandale


My guess on this photo is RT 236 looking east. The cross street is Markham St?

I see the big Texaco sign way off in the background. That site would become Fuddruckers and later still Walgreens.

Old Iron...It across the st from 3 Chefs/Fudds and the old Safeway-then a bank...Columbia Pike

Sleepy Holla Wrote:
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> Old Iron...It across the st from 3 Chefs/Fudds and
> the old Safeway-then a bank...Columbia Pike

Thanks for getting me turned around. I was going the wrong way.

Page 13 flashback. Pickett.
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1973 ? The Dart Drug went across the street to Fair City Mall in 74

Still hoping for Pants Corral pictures.

1982 Lake Braddock
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If it was the day the young man took the 22 rifle into the school with excited kids smiling and waving at the camera. Since you like old car details, see if there are any jumping gamefish or deer decals on the West Va born janitors pickup camper shell

Sorry to have thrown the thread off track. I guess no place is safe anymore

I Was Just About To Ask Wrote:
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> If it was the day the young man took the 22 rifle
> into the school with excited kids smiling and
> waving at the camera. Since you like old car
> details, see if there are any jumping gamefish or
> deer decals on the West Va born janitors pickup
> camper shell

There is a VW Bus if anyone is interested.

pastpost flashback Wrote:
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> Page 13 flashback. Pickett.


I see a VW !

To the hard working janitors, even with lots of decal room, American made only, Chevy Ford or Dodge for those WW2 Korea and Vietnam vets

VW Spotter Wrote:
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> I Was Just About To Ask Wrote:
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> > If it was the day the young man took the 22
> rifle
> > into the school with excited kids smiling and
> > waving at the camera. Since you like old car
> > details, see if there are any jumping gamefish
> or
> > deer decals on the West Va born janitors pickup
> > camper shell
>
> There is a VW Bus if anyone is interested.

you know we are. we’re all looking.
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Maybe not

Maybe is, roof looks a bit higher

Why did I have to post higher ?

Maybe thinking about the VW Hippy weed buses

Way back when , cough !! Sorry No Merry Prankster here, when the "J" was lit off, COPS WERE EVERYWHERE but being young and asked to join in, Why Not !

Don't Bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me, they then said lol

That VW Sure Did Not Belong Wrote:
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> To the hard working janitors, even with lots of
> decal room, American made only, Chevy Ford or
> Dodge for those WW2 Korea and Vietnam vets


I grew up in Kings Park in the 1970's and there were many VW family buses brought home by the Major or Lt. Col. from their tour in West Germany.

In the late 60's and early 70's it was easy to do before all of the regulations about safety and emissions standards.

VWs are very American

VW Spotter

They were brought here in numbers by US servicemen back then who served in Germany, but the West Va crowd needed pick ups not cars and VWs smelled bad anyway, no heat either, you call that a heater ! was a common phrase . They did have big plus, ez to work on and I did my share of that on one hippy bus

Your Right About That Wrote:
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> They were brought here in numbers by US servicemen
> back then who served in Germany, but the West Va
> crowd needed pick ups not cars and VWs smelled bad
> anyway, no heat either, you call that a heater !
> was a common phrase . They did have big plus, ez
> to work on and I did my share of that on one hippy
> bus


My family owned several VW Beetles in the late seventies/early eighties. I was just a little kid at the time but remember watching my older brothers and dad pull an engine out, take it apart, replace gaskets and seals and reinstall it in a couple of hours on a Saturday afternoon at our house. Don't remember them taking those Beetles to a mechanic for anything.

Your Right About That Wrote:
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> They were brought here in numbers by US servicemen
> back then who served in Germany, but the West Va
> crowd needed pick ups not cars and VWs smelled bad
> anyway, no heat either, you call that a heater !
> was a common phrase . They did have big plus, ez
> to work on and I did my share of that on one hippy
> bus
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The question beckons to be asked: [Percentage wise] How many VWs were there in this area in the ‘60s compared to the ‘70s?

Isn’t that the question SH?

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> The question beckons to be asked: [Percentage
> wise] How many VWs were there in this area in the
> ‘60s compared to the ‘70s?
>
> Isn’t that the question SH?


Not exactly :) It was in 1958 compared to the 70's.

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> The question beckons to be asked: [Percentage
> wise] How many VWs were there in this area in the
> ‘60s compared to the ‘70s?
>
> Isn’t that the question SH?


No need to be nasty - Take your poor attitude elsewhere.

1971 Lee Lancers marching band on Brandon ave in Springfield.
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The question is: How many VWs were there in this area in 1958
compared to the ‘70s?

Never let a sleeping dog lie.

cic

Great pic AR
Thx

Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> 1971 Lee Lancers marching band on Brandon ave in
> Springfield.


What is up with that white (Ford?) truck in the background? Looks like a big model airplane is mounted on the back of it or something. Looks strange.

springfielder1 Wrote:
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> Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> > 1971 Lee Lancers marching band on Brandon ave
> in
> > Springfield.
>
>
> What is up with that white (Ford?) truck in the
> background? Looks like a big model airplane is
> mounted on the back of it or something. Looks
> strange.


Looks like an old high school homecoming float...1970s style.

There was some parade in Springfield in the early fall, Springfield Days?? It had marching bands, floats, old cars, etc.

I know that as a Marching Colonial, the TJ band marched over the bridge over 95 going from Vallee's parking lot into "downtown Springfield." Many years ago.

springfielder1 Wrote:
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> Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> > 1971 Lee Lancers marching band on Brandon ave
> in
> > Springfield.
>
>
> What is up with that white (Ford?) truck in the
> background? Looks like a big model airplane is
> mounted on the back of it or something. Looks
> strange.

Lee High School was built on land that used to be the Springfield Airport. Probably some type of homage to the history of the area. Also, on the front of the truck it says "Café ????"(cannot make out second word). Could it have been a local business?

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/VA/Airfields_VA_Fairfax_NE.htm#springfield

Anyone know why the year 1972 was been removed from the Fairfax County Historical Aerials site?

Remember when we had Hardees in Arlington? Looks like it was a former Red Barn.
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causeican Wrote:
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> Anyone know why the year 1972 was been removed from the Fairfax County Historical Aerials site?

Have you tried emailing the webmaster to ask them?

causeican Wrote:
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> Anyone know why the year 1972 was been removed
> from the Fairfax County Historical Aerials site?


It is being censored because of racist content.
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I could go for an Ollieburger, fries and a draft beer in a frozen schooner right now.
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That Exxon next to the Lums looks like modern construction 1995+

Jaktaw Wrote:
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> That Exxon next to the Lums looks like modern
> construction 1995+

and the Lums looks vacant.

Willow spring garage Fairfax Virginia.
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^ That is so cool! Thanks AR. Great pix, again!

I don't know why but am disappointed. The 1972 imagery was the layer closest in time to the demise of the W&OD (50 years ago this month) and is useful for looking at a booming time in Fairfax County development. I see they have added imagery from 1960 and 1976. The latter is in color and with good resolution. The former is useful as soon before the construction of the Beltway. (It shows Dolley Madison from the GW Parkway to Chain Bridge Road on the east side of McLean, before it was extended through McLean to the new Beltway/123 interchange near Tyson's Corner.

^they must have just added those two years. I’m excited to explore those years but I do remember the 1972 photos were very clear and I hope they make them available again.

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> > Just Ice, perhaps the SJW didn't think this
> > through.
>
>
> Great point! Hadn't thought of that possibility.

Anyone know when the street painting started?

They really had that drive-in tucked away in there. Without the wall around it, the neighbors could have filled their lots up with cars.
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Luther Jackson is about the only structure still there.

Great photo

^^ What/where is this photo taken of? Newbie here. Thanks.

Old Iron Wrote:
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> Luther Jackson is about the only structure still there.
> Great photo

Millennial shoppers
Out back
Comeback greenback
All around that
Luther Jack

Spicee Wrote:
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> ^^ What/where is this photo taken of? Newbie
> here. Thanks.


Gallows Road and Gatehouse Road area

Perspective
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^^Thank you Causeican for the excellent photo perspective! Never knew about the former drive-in location.

CAUSEICAN- Props for the map skills. See NGA and NRO for a career.

Is this old?
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yadayada
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Where was this, anyone know?
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1900-ish. That is one crazy house.
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Fairfax Fairgrounds, I think. I wish I could ID some of those folks.
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Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> Willow spring garage Fairfax Virginia.

Interesting photos, I guess. But I do not support people making a living off of predatory practices. Towing companies like Willow Springs suck. They can literally ruin someone's life with one tow.

Wings . Not Nova but could not resist , Some people in Nova may have been there but in 1958, I doubt it lol West Coast Chinese Foods and prices then, I was there back in 58 thou and wanted a stiff drink, they refused as I was not yet 6 and today they would pass me a joint if I was 6
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causeican Wrote:
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> Is this old?


No.

Is a honest business They have saved my ass one time I really needed a tow a few years ago and I tipped the driver 40 on a 220 dollar tow bringing me back to Nova from out west 50 miles out

>They can literally ruin someone's life with one tow.

Gee I guess you want Chinese food for 1958 prices too how about fried chicken for 1.75 the most expensive thing on the menu, can you cough that up ?

Now its the pic thread be nice, go to the off topic forum and bitch out Gerrytard

my perspective Wrote:
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> Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> > Willow spring garage Fairfax Virginia.
>
> Interesting photos, I guess. But I do not support
> people making a living off of predatory practices.
> Towing companies like Willow Springs suck. They
> can literally ruin someone's life with one tow.


How is that possible? Aren't we being a bit over dramatic?

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> Where was this, anyone know?


CIC, That was on Georgia Ave in DC...BTW Thanks for the flurry of pics.

causeican Wrote:
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> yadayada


I heard that horse was pulling a Volks Wagon. :)

This is a cool site. Yes, Primo's is still there, but it was sold to new ownership somewhere around 2007, I think. (Not quite as good as the original!)

Supposed to be route 7 Tysons, date unknown. I think it might be the Amoco next to the flashcube building.
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Drama? Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Willow spring garage Fairfax Virginia.
> >
> > Interesting photos, I guess. But I do not
> support
> > people making a living off of predatory
> practices.
> > Towing companies like Willow Springs suck. They
> > can literally ruin someone's life with one tow.
>
>
> How is that possible? Aren't we being a bit over
> dramatic?


You are living paycheck to paycheck. They tow your vehicle. That's $180. You don't have $180. Everyday your vehicle sits on their lot is $$$$. Now you also do not have a vehicle to get to work and maybe work for an employer who is unforgiving. Miss a day or two of work because you can't get there and they fire you. Now you cannot pay your rent and get evicted. Ya, I would say that could really fuck up someone's life. Not everyone around here is living the dream and sponging off the government. Douche.

So, who are you "blaming" in that scenario?

Just because you make sh** for money, doesn't mean you can park on someone else's property against posted parking rules.

And then, you get towed, and your car sits in some lot that some guy has to pay for, whether it is rent, mortgage, taxes, or otherwise...and you want that guy to store your car for free?

Even when I was in my early 20's and made NO money, I understood that ours is a free enterprise, capitalistic society...everything costs something. Nothing is free.

You don't make very much money, and can't afford the fees associated with towing?

Then, guess what? Park more carefully.

it's possible no drama Wrote:
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> Drama? Wrote:
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> > my perspective Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Andy Ratlips Wrote:
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Willow spring garage Fairfax Virginia.
> > >
> > > Interesting photos, I guess. But I do not
> > support
> > > people making a living off of predatory
> > practices.
> > > Towing companies like Willow Springs suck.
> They
> > > can literally ruin someone's life with one
> tow.
> >
> >
> > How is that possible? Aren't we being a bit
> over
> > dramatic?
>
>
> You are living paycheck to paycheck. They tow your
> vehicle. That's $180. You don't have $180.
> Everyday your vehicle sits on their lot is $$$$.
> Now you also do not have a vehicle to get to work
> and maybe work for an employer who is unforgiving.
> Miss a day or two of work because you can't get
> there and they fire you. Now you cannot pay your
> rent and get evicted. Ya, I would say that could
> really fuck up someone's life. Not everyone around
> here is living the dream and sponging off the
> government. Douche.


Free advise.

Be very careful when you venture away from your parents driveway.

Drive carefully, park legally, and always wear clean underwear.

How about some pics...THURSDAY THROWBACK...
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The Virginia room at the Fairfax library has recently posted many of our local yearbooks for viewing online for free! There are a buttload of Old pictures of Fairfax county now available! Please find some good ones and post them here!

https://research.fairfaxcounty.gov/c.php?g=713238&p=5229532
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Jaktaw Wrote:
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> That Exxon next to the Lums looks like modern
> construction 1995+

Looks like the one that was located at the corner of Routes 123 and 1 in Woodbridge.

Andy Ratlips Wrote:
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> The Virginia room at the Fairfax library has
> recently posted many of our local yearbooks for
> viewing online for free! There are a buttload of
> Old pictures of Fairfax county now available!
> Please find some good ones and post them here!
>
> https://research.fairfaxcounty.gov/c.php?g=713238&;
> p=5229532


Thanks.

Fairfax County Library's interface is terrible though.

Easiest way I could find to view things directly is to pick the book, then 'show all,' then pick the PDF file from the list.

For all you have contributed, a link to a world of old pics, Many old Fairfax County HS year books ON LINE ! From The FCPL site

https://research.fairfaxcounty.gov/c.php?g=713238&p=5229532

Hey Andy, just saw your post, the words getting out! Thanks also man

That's A dig against, "The Rt 1 Crowd " ! LOL Dixie Pig , Green Leaf, Hillbilly Heaven, 1320...