and this:

...on 1 June 1862, a Union observer used a telegraph instrument aboard a captive balloon to report aerial observations of the Battle of Fair Oaks to his headquarters on the ground. This was the first use of telegraphy from a balloon, and the first air-to-ground communication during the war....

http://cecomhistorian.armylive.dodlive.mil/2011/06/03/signal-corps-equipment-in-the-civil-war/
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Must see for history buff. Go to this site:
http://spotsylvaniacw.blogspot.com/2011_04_01_archive.html

Satellite image indicating roads and landmarks relative to Waud sketch. The blue lines seen along Deacon Road demonstrate the Divisions formed by columns of Brigades. A newspaper account describes the area as having been cleared of most trees for the occasion as well as the bridging of water obstacles. This facilitated the fluid movement of the large masses of troops. The Review could not have been conducted in a smaller area than what is presented here. These observations are important toward the historical understanding of the site, otherwise lost within the residential development that has covered the once larger tracts.
Please do enlarge this one so that the annotations are legible.
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Theres been a lot of media attention on Fairfax Underground today so Im just bumping this excellent thread so some new eyes can see it. Sorry if this isn't allowed.

Yup, I can confirm the Montegos were still at Edison in 81. If you could drive a Montego with a football field length hood, while sitting on the floorboard (as Mercurys and Fords typically had low seats), you could drive anything.

causeican Wrote:
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> and this:
>
> ...on 1 June 1862, a Union observer used a
> telegraph instrument aboard a captive balloon to
> report aerial observations of the Battle of Fair
> Oaks to his headquarters on the ground. This was
> the first use of telegraphy from a balloon, and
> the first air-to-ground communication during the
> war....

The Battle of Fair Oaks took place east of Richmond (about where Richmond's airport is today).

old Wrote:
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> '69 Plymouth GTX Wrote:
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> > > Haha, they were still using them in '81 when
> I
> > had
> > > behind the wheel. I got so screwed with that.
>
> > I
> > > got classroom driver's ed early, but they
> they
> > > forgot about me or something for behind the
> > wheel.
> > > I had to take it in summer school. I had to
> > ride
> > > my bike from near Roundtree Park to 7 Corners
> > and
> > > then take the bus from 7 Corners to Marshall
> > high
> > > school near Tyson's. Total pain in the ass,
> > but
> > > you gotta do what you gotta do.
> >
> > Back in 1979 I took the classroom portion at
> > school, and because I didn't want to wait to do
> > the behind the wheel portion I found this
> driving
> > school that did the entire driving part for
> > $200.00 and only took 5 days.
> >
> > My parents were horrified because I finished
> > everything on my 16th birthday, and demanded to
> be
> > taken to the DMV to get my license.
> >
> > Little did I know that the license would be
> > presented by a judge at a large assembly in
> Falls
> > Church several weeks later.
> >
> > Just in time for gas rationing after the
> Iranians
> > took over the U.S. Embassy in November 1979.
>
>
> The law requiring Drivers Ed for those under 18
> went into effect on July 1, 1969. I turned 16 on
> July 8, 1969. Talk about PISSED. Eight lousy
> days!
>
> I think Monday, June 30, 1969 still holds the
> record for the most behind-the- wheel driving
> tests given in one day. If you waited until July
> 1 or later you needed drivers' ed.
>
> Anyway, I was in one of the first FCPS
> behind-the-wheel classes. The car was a 1969
> Chevy Impala. The first few days we drove around
> the high school parking lot with the car's radio
> tuned to a certain station on which the instructor
> could talk to all the cars. (pretty hi-tech for
> 1969, eh?).
>
> When it was time for us to go out on the road, it
> was three of us kids and the instructor. One of
> the kids already had his license and was just
> taking the course for the insurance discount. We
> ended up driving around Herndon and the instructor
> told us to pull over at this particular
> house...his!
>
> Then the instructor hopped out and told us to come
> back and pick him up in a couple of hours. So off
> we went, three kids driving around in a FCPS
> Driver's Ed car. Can you imagine if we had a
> wreck with no instructor in the car? That dude
> took a hell of a chance just to get out of doing
> his job. But everything turned out OK.
>
> None of us told anybody about it...we didn't want
> anything to fuck us up getting our licenses.
> Shit, if it happened today, it'd be on the front
> page of the fucking Washington Post.


Today you would be on the Wash Post for that because your back seat passengers would be posting it on facebook from their phones and it would be public knowledge in 15 minutes. Totally different back then- everybody didn't post what they were doing every 5 minutes. It was easy to "disappear" for a couple hours. What a scam that guy had, getting paid to teach driving while actually at home... likley getting some nookie from the missus.. or possibly mistress.

The actual drivers test at Grovedale was way easier. Moms Corolla was a lot smaller than a Montego. The test was a loop. Out of Grovedale, down Beulah, up Fleet, rt on Franconia, back to Grovedale. And there was about 1/64th of the traffic on Franconia as there is today. No biggie.

Photo Detective Wrote:
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> Fran Conia Wrote:
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> > This picture is supposed to be from Fairfax
> > county. Looks like its from a yearbook but
> where
> > was/is this shopping center????
> > What is that little car on the right side? It
> > looks like a modern day Fiat.
>
> This photo was taken in the summer of 1965, and
> this is a picture of Rose Hill Shopping Center at
> the corner of Franconia Road and Rose Hill Drive.
>
> Great picture - Photo Detective.


I was about to say it looked like Rose Hill. Wow 1965- a little before my time. The store at the opposite end of the photo would have been Grants. I think that is a Fiat 500 in the parking lot, whats old is new again.

white fang Wrote:
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> 1966.
Thats interesting that the Fairfax County Police arm patches had Mount Vernon rather than the county seal.

jcCEn Wrote:
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> The Battle of Fair Oaks took place east of
> Richmond (about where Richmond's airport is
> today).

No doubt in a satellite mall parking lot during the holiday season.

Back in the day it was always known as the Battle of Ox Hill round here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chantilly

causeican Wrote:
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> and this:
>
> ...on 1 June 1862, a Union observer used a
> telegraph instrument aboard a captive balloon to
> report aerial observations of the Battle of Fair
> Oaks to his headquarters on the ground. This was
> the first use of telegraphy from a balloon, and
> the first air-to-ground communication during the
> war....
>
> http://cecomhistorian.armylive.dodlive.mil/2011/06
> /03/signal-corps-equipment-in-the-civil-war/

Yup, I totally would have mistaken that for Fair oaks Mall area not down by Richmond. I didnt know there was another Fair Oaks in the state. OTOH I didn't know there was another Rose Hill outside of Fairfax until recently. Apparently there is a more famous Rose Hill in Lee County, just about as far away from Fairfax as you can get in the state.

I took drivers ed/behind the wheel fall of'79. Lake Braddock had the Torino's/Montego's and one Concord DL. I do remember going in front of a Judge with a whole bunch of other new drivers (Falls Church HS maybe), but don't remember going back to DMV to get the actual license.

1983 Wrote:
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> 1983

AAH, Shannon & Luchs... "The nice people to do business with"... their old tag line that also had a music jingle.

Didly

huntermn Wrote:
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> Remember the old worn out Ford Torino's and
> Mercury Montego's they used to give driving
> lessons in? Note the FCPS maintenance truck in the
> background with men sitting there doing close to
> nothing just like they still do today!
>
> From the 1977 Lee HS yearbook.


Herndon High School 1982 we learned in AMC Concords. Instructor wore dirty clothes and smelled like Fritos.

I got a traffic ticket before I got my license. Arlington. 1978. Took parents' car for a joy ride. Was stoned out of my mind. Driving north on Kirby heading for Chain Bridge. Didn't make one of those turns and landed in the embankment. Stumbled out once I woke up. Managed to hitch a ride home. Left the car with the grill stuck in the dirt and the front wheels dangling in mid-air. The next thing I remember is my mom telling me the cops are at the door. "Yes, officer?" "Did you blah, blah, blah?" "No officer". We did that a couple more times around and then they left. When I turned around, my mom said "look in the mirror". When I did, there was dry blood around my nose and on my face. "Great!" I laughed sarcastically. What they must have been thinking. Probably, "Good thing she's off the road".

Fairfax Police 1990?
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Fireman Wrote:
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> Fairfax Police 1990?

You're meaning to tell me digital cameras were around then?

- dA rEaL fArTiAn - Wrote:
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> Fireman Wrote:
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> > Fairfax Police 1990?
>
This photo was taken around 2004. That style of International Truck came out in that time frame. The white Ford Expedition in the background is 1998-2003.

I did not think that picture was that current. Fairfax was rolling out their new line of patrol around then, this was the new model.>>>>>
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This was at the same trade show. You can see my son's old patrol car in the background. if not 1990, 1995? Anyway, Fairfax County just the same

you tell them fireman.

Okay

lbss82bruin Wrote:
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> I took drivers ed/behind the wheel fall of'79.
> Lake Braddock had the Torino's/Montego's and one
> Concord DL. I do remember going in front of a
> Judge with a whole bunch of other new drivers
> (Falls Church HS maybe), but don't remember going
> back to DMV to get the actual license.


And once you got your piece of plastic with your picture on it to drive, you got another piece of plastic with a number on it so you could park... on school property at least.
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And then you got a ticket for the football game. Do they still use tickets?
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fxcograd Wrote:
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> lbss82bruin Wrote:
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> > I took drivers ed/behind the wheel fall of'79.
> > Lake Braddock had the Torino's/Montego's and
> one
> > Concord DL. I do remember going in front of a
> > Judge with a whole bunch of other new drivers
> > (Falls Church HS maybe), but don't remember
> going
> > back to DMV to get the actual license.
>
>
> And once you got your piece of plastic with your
> picture on it to drive, you got another piece of
> plastic with a number on it so you could park...
> on school property at least.

Lake Braddock's was 14-xxxx

GkPLv

Are there any photos of the old Lorton and Occoquan Railroad, Ft. Belvoir Military Railroad, Fairfax-Oakton-Vienna Railway, Washington, Alexandria, and Mount Vernon Electric Railway, and the Great Falls and Old Dominion Railroad that someone can post?

What was left of the "New" Starlite Swimming pool across from Picket Shopping Center along Rt 236 in Fairfax. Pic taken In 1990.

This was the big new pool and had a 3 meter diving board which is left to see. the pool is filled in with dirt. The older one was beside it and was smaller. The old one was there in 1970 and went back before that. This big pool was built about 73. I never went in the pool saw it from the street looked at it a couple times, It was too expensive for a young working man .

The pool was apart of the Starlite Golf driving range where long haired youth picked up balls one night about 1974 or so , and hurled them against the Frost school breaking out a New Record of busted windows for "kicks" . Maybe they drove them with golf clubs also.. FORE..! Weed like smoking material was thought to be involved..

DAJAX
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Nice shot, remember the BMX track? that pool was in a death rattle at that point in time

fxcograd Wrote:
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> And then you got a ticket for the football game.
> Do they still use tickets?

Yep, at least the games I go to...

The Mighty Midget an Icon in Leesburg in 1990 .. Its still there but fancied up and part of some other place. There was one once in Alex Va. My boss's father had it once long ago maybe early 50's. They were made from WW2 surplus airplane metal. Nothing like a good burger from a Midget Kitchen...

the BMX track yes I remember that. They had a lot of races there after the golf course went. There was a Scuba Shop at Picket and they had classes at that pool until about 1985 or so. That's about when it closed.
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Swim Baby ! Do The Swim ! Wrote:
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> What was left of the "New" Starlite Swimming pool
> across from Picket Shopping Center along Rt 236 in
> Fairfax. Pic taken In 1990.
>
> This was the big new pool and had a 3 meter
> diving board which is left to see. the pool is
> filled in with dirt. The older one was beside it
> and was smaller. The old one was there in 1970 and
> went back before that. This big pool was built
> about 73. I never went in the pool saw it from the
> street looked at it a couple times, It was too
> expensive for a young working man .
>
> The pool was apart of the Starlite Golf driving
> range where long haired youth picked up balls one
> night about 1974 or so , and hurled them against
> the Frost school breaking out a New Record of
> busted windows for "kicks" . Maybe they drove them
> with golf clubs also.. FORE..! Weed like smoking
> material was thought to be involved..
>
> DAJAX


I think it was Starlit (no "e").

Not sure, but I seem to remember "Starlit Fairways". Might have been the name of the driving range?

I think that swim-swam there.. Soletar something like that. Melissa Belote who won 3 Gold Medals in the 72 Olympic and went to Lee HS was on that team..

Soletar..Soletare.. "Soledad Brothers" ..LOL. The old guy who owned it was a big time coach with lots of speed swimmers. Got a hunch his name was.. Ed .. You know the old song about hunches..right how many % of the time...

BTW The big 50 meter pool at Audrey Moore Rec Center formally Wakefield is officially named the Melissa Belote Pool. The pool not the center..

DAJAX

Ed Solatar. Interview with Melissa in 2012

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/melissa-belote-recalls-olympic-glory-days-as-americas-princess-of-the-pool/

DAJAX.. Soledad Brothers.. LOL...I do remember them.. Old Guy I am...Like Old Ed.

Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> Are there any photos of the old Lorton and
> Occoquan Railroad, Ft. Belvoir Military Railroad,
> Fairfax-Oakton-Vienna Railway, Washington,
> Alexandria, and Mount Vernon Electric Railway, and
> the Great Falls and Old Dominion Railroad that
> someone can post?

you crazy?

Late 70's sometime
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I have looked forever, and have finally found the photo's

Yes That Was Another BIG ONE Wrote:
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> >Pictures remind me of the big fire at the Fairfax
> tank farm on Pickett Road. That was about 1974 or
> 1975 time frame. The fire department was unable to
> put it out, and they brought out the airplane
> crash foam units from Dulles Airport of get the
> fire under control. The fire was so hot the the
> paint and plastic lenses on the fire trucks were
> melted off of the trucks.
>
> Comstock was evacuated and so was Pickett shopping
> center.
>
> Yes that was another BIG ONE, but it was 76 or 77.
> I was living in FX City off 236 a mile away, saw
> the huge smoke cloud in th early AM about 7. It
> occured at the fuel station/rack where the
> tankers get their loads. The driver also died at
> that accident. There was no danger to the tank
> farm however as bad as it looked but it was scary
> for all those nearby.
>
> The one at Rt 236 under the bridge and this one
> were THE BIG ONES.

> Yes that was another BIG ONE, but it was 76 or 77.
> I was living in FX City off 236 a mile away, saw
> the huge smoke cloud in th early AM about 7. It
> occured at the fuel station/rack where the
> tankers get their loads. The driver also died at
> that accident. There was no danger to the tank
> farm however as bad as it looked but it was scary
> for all those nearby.
>
> The one at Rt 236 under the bridge and this one
> were THE BIG ONES.

True and it was 76 or 77 when I lived in FX City..The other Big One was .. 1990 some when the truck overturned under the 236 bridge , the driver died in that fire also..The first pic is looking west on Rt 236 about up where the Seventh Day Adventist Church is on the right.

Thats Right They were Big Ones Wrote:
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> > Yes that was another BIG ONE, but it was 76 or
> 77.
> > I was living in FX City off 236 a mile away,
> saw
> > the huge smoke cloud in th early AM about 7.
> It
> > occured at the fuel station/rack where the
> > tankers get their loads. The driver also died
> at
> > that accident. There was no danger to the tank
> > farm however as bad as it looked but it was
> scary
> > for all those nearby.
> >
> > The one at Rt 236 under the bridge and this
> one
> > were THE BIG ONES.
>
> True and it was 76 or 77 when I lived in FX
> City..The other Big One was .. 1990 some when the
> truck overturned under the 236 bridge , the driver
> died in that fire also..The first pic is looking
> west on Rt 236 about up where the Seventh Day
> Adventist Church is on the right.
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a few more big ones.
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amazing how salaries changed, this was from 87



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Civil War Returned to Fairfax at Bull Run.... Hazel helped the cause.
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another yearbook ad.
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Early days of I-66.
I bet photo detective can tell us when this pic was taken.
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Love these article and pictures from the old Journal newspapers. It was sad when they went out, daily coverage of things happening in the community.

The Post's local coverage is very spotty.

Reston 1979
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Fran Conia Wrote:
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> Early days of I-66.
> I bet photo detective can tell us when this pic
> was taken.


This photo was taken in the summer of 1971. The police car is a 1967 Ford Custom, and it had a 390 4 barrel. The car that was pulled over is a 1960 Plymouth Valiant.

That info coupled with the construction timeline of I-66, puts this in mid 1971.

Photo Detective Wrote:
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> Fran Conia Wrote:
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> > Early days of I-66.
> > I bet photo detective can tell us when this pic
> > was taken.
>
>
> This photo was taken in the summer of 1971. The
> police car is a 1967 Ford Custom, and it had a 390
> 4 barrel. The car that was pulled over is a 1960
> Plymouth Valiant.
>
> That info coupled with the construction timeline
> of I-66, puts this in mid 1971.

The Valiant did not become a Plymouth Valiant until 1961. Valiant was a separate Brand in 1960. I wonder why the Valiant in the pic got stopped? Not likely for speeding with a slant 6 under the hood.

A buddy of mine was FCPD back then and he drove an unmarked black Ford with the 428 police Interceptor. It may have been a '68 though, I'm not sure. The '67 were available with the 428.

Never understand the people living in this area. Even today it seems like people don't want to allow the building of new roads, but yet people gripe about the traffic conditions. The motto for Virginia should be "Lovers of Traffic," since no one does anything to improve road conditions. Unbelievable. VDOT should learn from the Texas Department of Transportation. Go to Texas and you will see the most advanced highway system in the country.

Tiger_Ballz Wrote:
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> Never understand the people living in this area.
> Even today it seems like people don't want to
> allow the building of new roads, but yet people
> gripe about the traffic conditions. The motto for
> Virginia should be "Lovers of Traffic," since no
> one does anything to improve road conditions.
> Unbelievable. VDOT should learn from the Texas
> Department of Transportation. Go to Texas and you
> will see the most advanced highway system in the
> country.

It's not hard to understand. People like to gripe about traffic but they don't want to pay to improve it.

While Texas has no state income tax, the real estate taxes are astronomical...number 5 in the country. Tx ranks right up there with New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois and other communist states.

I think you should go back to Texas, that would help our traffic situation.

old Wrote:
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> Photo Detective Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fran Conia Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Early days of I-66.
> > > I bet photo detective can tell us when this
> pic
> > > was taken.
> >
> >
> > This photo was taken in the summer of 1971. The
> > police car is a 1967 Ford Custom, and it had a
> 390
> > 4 barrel. The car that was pulled over is a
> 1960
> > Plymouth Valiant.
> >
> > That info coupled with the construction
> timeline
> > of I-66, puts this in mid 1971.
>
> The Valiant did not become a Plymouth Valiant
> until 1961. Valiant was a separate Brand in 1960.
> I wonder why the Valiant in the pic got stopped?
> Not likely for speeding with a slant 6 under the
> hood.
>
> A buddy of mine was FCPD back then and he drove an
> unmarked black Ford with the 428 police
> Interceptor. It may have been a '68 though, I'm
> not sure. The '67 were available with the 428.


Yeah, A kid I knew in high school had a used 67 ford custom cop car and it was a 428 with factory 4 barrel. Of course we pulled the dual manifolds and put headers and a pair of hush thrush mufflers on it then we put bondo over all the rust and painted it "midnight blue" in the Lake braddock auto body shop class.

Dave Henery Wrote:
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> old Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Photo Detective Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fran Conia Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Early days of I-66.
> > > > I bet photo detective can tell us when this
> > pic
> > > > was taken.
> > >
> > >
> > > This photo was taken in the summer of 1971.
> The
> > > police car is a 1967 Ford Custom, and it had
> a
> > 390
> > > 4 barrel. The car that was pulled over is a
> > 1960
> > > Plymouth Valiant.
> > >
> > > That info coupled with the construction
> > timeline
> > > of I-66, puts this in mid 1971.
> >
> > The Valiant did not become a Plymouth Valiant
> > until 1961. Valiant was a separate Brand in
> 1960.
> > I wonder why the Valiant in the pic got
> stopped?
> > Not likely for speeding with a slant 6 under
> the
> > hood.
> >
> > A buddy of mine was FCPD back then and he drove
> an
> > unmarked black Ford with the 428 police
> > Interceptor. It may have been a '68 though,
> I'm
> > not sure. The '67 were available with the 428.
>
>
> Yeah, A kid I knew in high school had a used 67
> ford custom cop car and it was a 428 with factory
> 4 barrel. Of course we pulled the dual manifolds
> and put headers and a pair of hush thrush mufflers
> on it then we put bondo over all the rust and
> painted it "midnight blue" in the Lake braddock
> auto body shop class.


Most of the marked units came with 390 4V motors, and the unmarked units came with 390's , 428's.

In 1967 there was a 240 CID 6 cylinder option with a 3 on the tree tranny in the Custom. A 289 2V & 4V, a 352 4V, 390 4V, and the 428 4V.

If the car was a Galaxie 500 the 428 came with 7 Liter badging.

That old Valiant had a 170 CID slant six. This was before the 225 CID.

whatever

.



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About that tanker: he couldn't have been going fast. It looks like it happened just after he straightened up from coming off the ramp. Was it a spark from the tire blowing? Can that happen?

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Come on man, stop that shit.

Anyone remember this one? I think a car wash is still there, but it's not the old Groveton car wash!
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Motor Head Wrote:
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> Dave Henery Wrote:
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> > old Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Photo Detective Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Fran Conia Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Early days of I-66.
> > > > > I bet photo detective can tell us when
> this
> > > pic
> > > > > was taken.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This photo was taken in the summer of 1971.
> > The
> > > > police car is a 1967 Ford Custom, and it
> had
> > a
> > > 390
> > > > 4 barrel. The car that was pulled over is a
> > > 1960
> > > > Plymouth Valiant.
> > > >
> > > > That info coupled with the construction
> > > timeline
> > > > of I-66, puts this in mid 1971.
> > >
> > > The Valiant did not become a Plymouth Valiant
> > > until 1961. Valiant was a separate Brand in
> > 1960.
> > > I wonder why the Valiant in the pic got
> > stopped?
> > > Not likely for speeding with a slant 6 under
> > the
> > > hood.
> > >
> > > A buddy of mine was FCPD back then and he
> drove
> > an
> > > unmarked black Ford with the 428 police
> > > Interceptor. It may have been a '68 though,
> > I'm
> > > not sure. The '67 were available with the
> 428.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, A kid I knew in high school had a used 67
> > ford custom cop car and it was a 428 with
> factory
> > 4 barrel. Of course we pulled the dual
> manifolds
> > and put headers and a pair of hush thrush
> mufflers
> > on it then we put bondo over all the rust and
> > painted it "midnight blue" in the Lake braddock
> > auto body shop class.
>
>
> Most of the marked units came with 390 4V motors,
> and the unmarked units came with 390's , 428's.
>
> In 1967 there was a 240 CID 6 cylinder option with
> a 3 on the tree tranny in the Custom. A 289 2V &
> 4V, a 352 4V, 390 4V, and the 428 4V.
>
> If the car was a Galaxie 500 the 428 came with 7
> Liter badging.
>
> That old Valiant had a 170 CID slant six. This was
> before the 225 CID.


The 240 I-6 and three on the tree was standard equipment on the '67 Ford Custom. Everything above that was an option.

On some makes EVERYTHING was an option, even a heater. I had a '63 Valiant that came from the factory with no heater. Of course I soon cobbled one together with junk yard parts. Classified car ads often listed "r&h" meaning radio and heater. Many, many cars came without radios, but my Valiant was one of the few (around here) that I ever saw that came without a heater.

> The 240 I-6 and three on the tree was standard
> equipment on the '67 Ford Custom. Everything
> above that was an option.
>
> On some makes EVERYTHING was an option, even a
> heater. I had a '63 Valiant that came from the
> factory with no heater. Of course I soon cobbled
> one together with junk yard parts. Classified car
> ads often listed "r&h" meaning radio and heater.
> Many, many cars came without radios, but my
> Valiant was one of the few (around here) that I
> ever saw that came without a heater.


Back in 1963 if you had a car that needed a heater, radio, or plastic seat covers you took your car down to Duke Street in Alexandria, and saw the folks at Morris Katz.

Tops 1959 somewhere in Arlington. Pic courtesy of Paul Wilson. George Mason drive and Lee highway maybe?
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Cant make out the street signs on my crappy chromebook, where is/was this?
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Perhaps the one that was at the corner of Columbia Pike and Walter Reed? Catty-cornered from the Arlington Cinema and Drafthouse, for a long time it was a Bob's Big Boy and is now a drug store.

Also home of the million dollar bus stop.

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> Cant make out the street signs on my crappy
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The timestamp at the lower right corner of the photo reads 08 15 97

I can't place the intersection, but it is in the older eastern part of Fairfax County. Annandale perhaps?

That is the intersection of Leesburg Pike and Carlin Springs Rd in Bailey's Crossroads. Right across from where the original Roy Rogers was.

The Texaco station is now a Shell.

Station was somewhere on Leesburg Pike
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Blackstripe Wrote:
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> Station was somewhere on Leesburg Pike


That is an easy one - Tyson's Corner on RT 7 next to the Ford Dealership.

Im not sure that is an Amoco station anymore either..... Just like those stations, the company trucks that delivered to them are gone as well.
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This page seems to be dedicated to gasoline, so here are my pictures from the old Exxon facility in Newington Virginia. The picture is from the same time frame as the tankers above (Early 90's) The pictures above appear to be from the tank farm off of Pickett Road, not Newington......
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P.T. Barnum Wrote:
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> That is the intersection of Leesburg Pike and
> Carlin Springs Rd in Bailey's Crossroads. Right
> across from where the original Roy Rogers was.
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> The Texaco station is now a Shell.


Are you talking about where Arthur Treachers use to be?

anyone have any recollection of what this building use to be? I know the answer, I’m testing you.
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Maybe in Reston?

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> About that tanker: he couldn't have been going
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> spark from the tire blowing? Can that happen?


From what I recall, the Ramp had too steep an angle, it was redone but still has a caution sign on it for tipping..

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LOL!

I don't recall there being an Arthur Treacher's down there. However, the original Roy Rogers was there starting in '68 which is now a McDonald's. To the right of the intersection in the photo is currently an REI, Gold's Gym and Vitamin Shoppe. The long standing MVC store is also across the street from where that Texaco station was.

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> anyone have any recollection of what this building
> use to be? I know the answer, I’m testing you.


Department of Motor Vehicles office on Seminary Rd, Bailey's Crossroads.

Does anyone know where this on is? The street signs are impossible to read.
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Fireman Wrote:
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> Does anyone know where this on is? The street
> signs are impossible to read.


RT 50 facing west just before going into Chantilly.

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> RT 50 facing west just before going into
> Chantilly.

Thanks!!

I truly didn't know. This is how "Street View" was done back in the day!!

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> RT 50 facing west just before going into
> Chantilly.

Really? What is the cross street at that intersection?

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> > anyone have any recollection of what this
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> you.
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> Department of Motor Vehicles office on Seminary
> Rd, Bailey's Crossroads.

You got it!
Did you recognize it or did you follow the trail?

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> RT 50 facing west just before going into
> Chantilly.


Right there where the Virginia Employment Comm Building. Can't recall the street name. Brain Damaged I guess.....

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> Really? What is the cross street at that
> intersection?

Stringfellow Rd an RT 50?

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> Stringfellow Rd an RT 50?


Nope. No uphill portion of westbound RT. 50 just west of Stringfellow.

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> > Really? What is the cross street at that
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> Stringfellow Rd an RT 50?


What about 236 West at Persimmon Dr. Going toward Pickett Rd.?

At the top of the hill was where the Shopper's, Taco Bell, Cash and Carry were.

I mean at Olley/Briary, not Persimmons

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> I mean at Olley/Briary, not Persimmons


Does anyone have a shot of that intersection today?

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> At the top of the hill was where the Shopper's,
> Taco Bell, Cash and Carry were.


Respectfully disagree with that as well.

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> RT 50 facing west just before going into
> Chantilly.

Sorry Guys, This is West Route 236 at Guinea Road. You can see the tip of WT Woodson HS off in the distance in the left corner of the photo. The timestamp on the photo reads August 1993

I'm going with 236 West @ Olley/Briary also. You see the names on the signs are different, to the left Olley & the right Briary
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Photo Detective Wrote:
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> > Chantilly.
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> Sorry Guys, This is West Route 236 at Guinea Road.
> You can see the tip of WT Woodson HS off in the
> distance in the left corner of the photo. The
> timestamp on the photo reads August 1993


Guinea is several lights before this and you wouldn't be able to see Woodson from Guinea.

Beacon Mall early 90's >>Giant Food in the background. First Virginia Bank and Boston Market in the foreground.
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> > you.
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> > Department of Motor Vehicles office on Seminary
> > Rd, Bailey's Crossroads.
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> You got it!
> Did you recognize it or did you follow the trail?


Dead giveaway was the two flag poles. They're original from DMV days. All those windows were added post-DMV.

Plus I used to live in the nearby apartments.

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> Fairfax Police 1990?


No, at least six years later. In the background of the 1st photo is a Ford Expedition, which debuted as a 1996 model.

Vintage photos of Rt. 7. Not that old, 20 years maybe.
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I forgot that there used to be a Pizza Hut there. I think it was Irvings SPorting Goods where the PetSmart is now.
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That pic is 236 at Olley Ln looking west toward Pickett.

Wow! I remember Starlit pool during the 1970s. Took my first swimming lessons there. Starlit pool ribbon & medal:
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